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>djt has been on /a/ for four years >mods have attempted

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>djt has been on /a/ for four years
>mods have attempted to move it several times
>every single attempt at finding a place for it backfires
>administration refuses to make a real japanese media generals board
>threads that are even tangentially related (the sporadic raw manga threads) get lambasted with DJT-related shitposting whenever anything happens to DJT
>djt is not worth banning from the site entirely

What would YOU do, anon?

No, don't say "just move it to X board" or "nuke DJT from the site". I don't want real answers. I want you to think of this as a puzzle game. How would YOU solve the problem?
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>>848711
>No, don't say "just move it to X board" or "nuke DJT from the site".
Reopen /lang/.
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Moving it to /int/ IS the solution.

You'll find I'm quite good at puzzles.
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>>848715
Make /lang/ be a board like /news/ where only the OP gets pics.
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>>848715
Isn't /lang/ basically /int/?
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I would tell the retarded powertripping mod to fuck off.
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I can't begin to fathom what kind of mental insufficiency you have to have in order to be this buttpained about 1 thread out of 150 that you have no interest in, doesn't bother you in any way, and has been there for years.
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>>848711
Tell the /int/ mods to accept it since it fits /int/ perfectly while the logic for accepting it on /a/ was extremely tenuous
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>>848711
It belongs on fucking /int/. The whole purpose of /int/ is, and I quote, ".. the discussion of foreign culture and language."
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>>848728
/int/ is slightly worksafe /b/ with flags and forced "banter".
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>>848716
>>>/a/150085592

The new administartion attempted moving a DJT thread to /int/ which was subsequently deleted by /int/ moderation saying it belonged on /a/

The administration has gone on record saying it belongs on /a/ in the past, and all the veteran moderators agreed with the decision

Seems the new janitors/admins are attempting some kind of power grab despite what the veteran staff members believe.

If you ask me, DJT threads have existed on 4chan for almost a decade and spanned more than 1,500 threads on /a/ alone. It would hurt the threads more than help it to move it off /a/, the community is already built
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>>848736
and?

djt is not /a/ in anyway.
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>>848739
You asked what /int/ was and I answered.
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>>848737
you dropped this:
>half a
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>>848737
>>>/int/67774458

Enough said.
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>>848711
Leave it on /a/. It's just one thread contained within itself and has been there for 4+ years
Anyone who doesn't like seeing the the thread in their catalogs can just filter it
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>>848737
>it would hurt the threads more
Except the rest of /a/ is happy for you to go.

And since the purpose of /int/ which you can read in their sticky is "the discussion of foreign culture and language" it is the /int/ mods who are wrong.

Just because anime is Japanese doesn't meant DJT is /a/

Even visual novels have a much better argument for being on /a/ than that and nobody is mad that vns aren't on /a/
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>>848733
That's not how /int/ works, it's just blue /pol/ with epic """banter""". DJT has much more in common with /a/ board culture, and leaving it as it is and has been for years is a much better solution than trying to change the way an entire board is moderated just to accommodate a single thread.
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>>848741
So what you are saying is delete the threads formally known as DJT
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>>848746
Seems like /int/ is perfect for you.

>>848744
And they can have that one contained thread on /int/ which is a board it actually fits.
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>>848750
Nobody in DJT wants flags so /int/ doesn't work
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>>848750
This is not about me, it's about DJT. Grow up.
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>>848746
>it's just blue /pol/ with epic """banter"""
That's the fault of /int/'s moderators then. In its rules and sticky, it is defined as a board for discussion of culture and language.

Why do you care anyway? It's not like you'll leave your DJT general.
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>>848745
You don't speak for the rest of /a/. People who learned Japanese thanks to the DJT have subbed and translated native material to the benefit of the entire board.
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>>848737

4chan isn't your personal chat room.
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>>848729
>>848737
Fuck off generalfags.
You dug your own grave.
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>>848771
not an argument
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PURGE

THE

GENERALS
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>>848774
Yes it is and the result of which is the following:
>>>/int/67774458
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>>848777
not an argument
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>>848782
Yes it is and the result of which is the following:
>>>/int/67774458
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>>848784
not an argument
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C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
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>>848776
*stabs you in the back*
Heh, nothing personnel, kid...
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Anyone else seeing double posts?
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Anyone else seeing double posts?
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Anyone else seeing triple posts?
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Anyone seeing quadruple posts?
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combo brrrreak
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>>848799
>>848803
>>848804
>>848810
DUDE
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>/int/

Fucking WHY. At least make it /jp/, please. There are already irregular Japanese threads on there so it fits in well enough.
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>>848821
Mix it with the untranslated VN threads
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>>848821
Whoa, is that a custom figure of some sort or is there actually a figure that has insides like that? Probably the former but having a half-skeleton idol figure would be fucking awesome. I really want that now.
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>>848826
Untranslated VN is specifically /jp/ related.

DJT is specifically /int/ related
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>>848821
>Fucking WHY.
Because the threads were treated like an /int/ general, is why.
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>>848832
>DJT is specifically /int/ related
It's not
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>>848834
".. the discussion of foreign culture and language."

Read the /int/ sticky
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>>848838
>>848840
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>>848834
It is. They constantly talk about living and working in Japan, etc. Shit that /jp/ don't want to hear about.
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>>848842
Some random anon who might even be you over a board sticky.

Sure.

DJT sure as hell fits /int/ more than /a/ or /jp/
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>>848844
Whenever people post that shit in DJT they're referred to int.
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>>848756
How many people have you seen protesting because of the issue? I barely have seen people shitposting on the threads that you keep making and mods keep deleting. And these thread on /a/, that are made by the same 20-30 ip's from djt. Nobody care if your shitty threads get deleted, if the majority of isn't speaking against it, the they're fine with it.
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>>848863
Prove it. Pulling "facts" out of your ass doesn't count as proof, also I'm not making any threads
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>>848756
The vast majority of translated stuff on /a/ is from people who didn't use DJT
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>>848871
It shows.
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>>848863
>if the majority of isn't speaking against it, the they're fine with it.
Or they don't care about it, which is the majority
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>>848846
>Whenever people post that shit in DJT they're referred to int.
You mean like these successful referrals?
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149926853/#149961467
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149805942/#149816685
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149741595/#149744984
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149660878/#149673504
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/149586018/#149609385
Drop the act because you aren't convincing anyone.
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>>848870
>848870
You can see the proofs for yourself. There no more threads complaining about the mods on /a/. Thus nobody cares.
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>>848871
How do you know they didn't use DJT?
It's not like anyone tells you their story of learning Japanese when they translate something
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>>848881
Yes, those referrals. What act? The fact that the threads are internally unmoderated isn't the community's fault, it's the mods' fault.
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>>848886
Because most are from people who were around before 2012 or are just rips of official stuff.
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We did it IRC. We finally got rid of the generals on /a/. Now it's time to start cracking down on fun. If we make it so no one can have fun on /a/ then we will really stick it to the userbase of /a/.
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Just make a new board for language and stick it there.
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>>848881
>You mean like these successful referrals
Yes, actually. Those are perfect examples of self-moderation. What's your point?
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>>848892
I really don't get what people's problem with generals is. Everyone posting is anonymous for christ's sake, there aren't any circlejerks. Circlejerks only occur when the topic in question is way too narrow and there's nothing left to discuss so people start talking about random shit with each other (see /vg/) but the Japanese language sure as fuck doesn't fit that description. General hate is a meme.
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>>848890
Might be true for anime but not for manga, especially for less known manga
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>>848901
>General hate is a meme.
I look forward to the 13 "What does she smell like?" threads for various different characters that are /a/ related.
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>>848906
That sounds highly erotic so I'm fine with that.
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>>848913
No it is not erotic. Erotic things go on /e/. Those threads are purely discussing smells of grils and nothing else. If it goes out of that scope it should be nuked or moved off of /a/ so we can discuss smells of girls.
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>>848922
Link me to just one thread on /a/ talking about girl smells.
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>>848929
Lurk more newfag.
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>>848932
he means right now, now that /a/ is being moderated at the moment
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>>848932
As I thought, there are none.
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I started browsing DJT 2 years ago or so and continued to do so regularly until now. This is true we've had problems and cancerous users lately but for this can be said for literally anywhere else on 4chan, that's just how internet or our website is.

DJT has helped me tremendously and I'd like to think I've also given back to many lost people in the frustrating but fun journey of learning Japanese. We've had genuinely good people (I'm not counting myself in here) taking their time to help and give to our community without asking anything back and too little credit is given to them (which is for the best since we're all anons after all - just wanted to at least acknowledged them with this very post). From an outsider's perspective this may not be very obvious but a lot of efforts have been put into our website and "learning Japanese as a whole". I've been learning Japanese for many years now and I can assure you there absolutely no better place than DJT to learn the language in the most efficient way you could.

I'm not against changes, sometimes changes are good or needed, but moving DJT to /int/ is a mistake in my opinion. /int/ has many people whose mentality do not go well at all with people from either /a/ or /jp/ (to not call them "normalfags"), the state is of this board is a mess similar to /b/ and to top it all flags are cancerous and just asking for more shitposting and thread derailing.

I wish mods would at least try to discussing this matter with us. Acting the way they do is just not responsible at all considering how ancient DJT was.
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If you want to fix /a/ (or any other board) you need to ban the shitposters, not delete the threads they're shitposting in.
Deleting the threads just encourages shitposters to shitpost in any thread they don't like, while also preventing legitimate discussion by the other users in the thread.
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>>848944
/int/ is basically /pol/-lite, moving /djt/ to /int/ is such a terrible decision.
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>>848711
There is literally no reason to move it from /a/.
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>>848961
Tell that to the new God complex mod.
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>>848961
There is literally no reason for a thread about learning Japanese to be on /a/ rather than /int/
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>>848965
It's probably that /co/ nigger
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>>848966
A bystander's autism is not a reason.
Kill yourself and mind your own business.
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>>848966
>/a/ Anime & Manga
>Not japanese

The fuck are you on
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>>848959
Old /pol/ maybe. /int/ is nothing like new /pol/
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Why are you guys so upset about your chatroom getting moved?
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>>848980
Because it's been on /a/ for years, it's become part of the board and removing it is taking a piece of /a/ from /a/.
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>>848980
It's literally already turning into /int/ memes general. It's horrible. Kill it with fire.
Oh well, at least the raw manga enclave is intact.
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Mods literally warned them before, I say we ban it entirely or we use this to take down /jp/, yeah killing /jp/ will solve everything.
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>>848987
I wouldn't mind if /jp/ was finally put out of its misery.
Throughout its entire existence it has been fucked over by moot, the mods and the shitty janitors it's been assigned.
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>>848982
>it's become part of the board and removing it is taking a piece of /a/ from /a/
This is what DJT generalfags ACTUALLY believe.
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>>848998
it's not.
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>>848987
No, /jp/ is like a containment board for /a/ in a sense. Remember when the board was down for maintenance for some hours without previous warning?. The festering morass that is /jp/ went crawling to /a/ like the plague and shitposting ensued. It would take massive moderation to even think about taking down /jp/ or any other board for that matter.
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>>848982

>Because it's been on /a/ for years
>muh board culture
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>>848711
>most images (if not all) on DJT are anime/manga related
>the guide is so anybody can join in the discussion
>there is no rule against Japanese language on 4chan
>there is no rule against generals
>/int/ has a Japanese board already. the difference is that the /int/ board doesn't discuss only anime/manga.

why are we even having this discussion? DJT belongs on /a/.
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>>849052
Board culture is a thing no matter how much you shitpost about it
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>>849069
Non-anime related generals are considered board culture?
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>>849076
How new?
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>>849078
I could ask you the same question.
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>>848745
Part of the rest of /a/ here, who doesn't even browse DJT.
I don't want to see DJT go. Despite not caring about them (since I've already given up), I see no issue in those threads and since they take up less than 1% of the total board space, they don't bother me at all.
Seriously, this overzealous moderation which tries to get rid of any and all "off-topic" threads (according to mods at least) is the true worst cancer to have happened to 4chan.
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>>848906
You sound like the typical /qa/ rulefag who wants to dictate what people from a board you don't use are or aren't allowed to post.
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>>848727
Thats not a good idea when it comes to a hieroglyphic language...
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>>849079
You could, and I'd say April 2006
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Stop moderating DJT threads, except for cp and loli maybe, let people spam, dubspam, post NSFW ponies, post the kind of shit that gets deleted from /pol/, furries, any off-topic they want (delete /trash/ for maximum effectiveness). Let the userbase do the dirty work, if they complain just say "but it's 4chan culture".

It's preposterous to start off-topic threads and expect mods not only to allow them but to moderate them as well, stop being cucked into doing /a/'s will.
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>>849779
Pray tell, what is off topic about DJT on /a/?
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OP here, I've decided that DJT obviously belongs on /qa/.
>>849793
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>>849785
The foreign language board is /int/, the otaku culture board is /jp/, /a/ is for anime and manga only. So unless you are translating one of those it's off-topic, and even if you were 4chan is not your fansub community, join one if you care about those things
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>>849824
>The foreign language board is /int/
/int/ is a culture exchange board, not a foreign language board
>the otaku culture board is /jp/,
true
>/a/ is for anime and manga only
also true

Clearly, all of the above boards are unfit for DJT.
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>>849825
>This board is for the discussion of foreign culture and language.
>discussion
>of
>foreign
>language
http://www.4chan.org/rules#int

Just in case the blatant sticky motivating you to learn a new language isn't proof enough

>>>/int/13531746
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>>849875
X being for Y does not mean that Y can only go to X. Some video games can go to /jp/, for example, even if they're not qualified under what's explicitly listed in the /jp/ rules.
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Why are people even complaining about DJT.

What is there even to complain about? I just ignore DJT if I ever see it in the catalog.

The only reason why I'm even bothered by this shit is because shit posters now go into every thread they believe in semblance that is a 'general' to shitpost what the mod said and attempt to derail the thread.

Fucking autism.
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>>849875
Discussing a language is not the same as trying to learn it
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>>849878
>Some video games can go to /jp/
/jp/ was created, largely, to host touhou bs, of course certain video games can go in there, just like pokemon threads can go both to /v/ and /vp/. But if pokemon were to be exclusively or mostly discussed in /v/ then we have a problem, because that's what /vp/ is for. The exact same goes for the DJT generals.
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>>849898
>The /int/ Wiki is a language learning guide created by /int/ users like you.
>language learning
>/int/
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>>849904
>>language learning
>>/int/
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>>849898
Discussing anime and manga is not the same as learning japanese
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>>849907
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/Japanese
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>>849913
>/int/
>learning anything
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>>849913
/int/ is just as if /pol/ and facebook had made a kid pretty much. There's nothing of value over there.
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Hey hotpockets stop your autism crusade for a moment and start deleting shit like this too
>>>/a/150098259
>>>/a/150094208
>>>/a/150101799
>>>/a/150064284
>>>/a/150057538
>>>/a/150084860
>>>/a/150099038
>>>/a/150104652
>>>/a/150103315
>>>/a/150057039
>>>/a/150081790
Fucking cancerous shitstains that spill out from these cesspools
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>>849920
t. generalcancerfag
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>>849936
Anime and manga are not meant for /int/.
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>>849920
That's ultimately what every "board culture" argument (including DJT) boils down to

"I don't want to discuss this topic in the board(s) meant for it because I don't like them and all my friends are on this other board"

>>849937
Language learning is not meant for /a/

And there's always /jp/ if you want to learn Japanese while taking about anime, manga or whatever otaku related bs you want to discuss as long as language learning remains the primary focus of the thread
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We already have a Japanese general on /int/, why do we have to take in another shitty general?

FUCK OFF
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>>849948
Mind it is one frequented by actual people living in Japan, be it Japanese people or gaijin English teachers. I'd wager /a/'s DJT is almost entirely composed of American and European weeaboos
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Just make an /ag/ board and call it a day for fuck sake.
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>DJT
>one of the useful threads on this site which encourages people to learn Japanese, provides help and resources
>everyone hates it and nobody wants it on their board
Well, fuck you all assholes.
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>>849962
We can't have nice things it seems. I guess it's just much better to become some adhd retard and procrastinate on /int/ all day.
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>>848976
>/int/ is nothing like new /pol/
Yeah sure.
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>>849946
>there's always /jp/ if you want to learn Japanese
DJT thread on /jp/ was deleted within minutes
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>>850003
Why has /jp/ always been so fucking hostile?
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>>849926
There's nothing wrong with one page threads and the drawthreads though.

Why not just remove the drawthreads from /v/, /a/, /h/, /b/, etc?
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>>848739
DJT is /a/ we aren't learning nip to speak to actual japanese people, we are learning it for manga, anime and novels.
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>>848799
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>>850003
When was that? Nu-/jp/ is general friendly now
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>>850007
>There's nothing wrong with one page threads and the drawthreads though
>fucking generals, saucefags, circlejerk, no progress in years, hughboxes, reposts every other day, retardation and reddit nesting
>There's nothing wrong
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>>850017
Pls no
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>>849926
Every single one of those is literally more /a/ related than DJT.

Why can't you faggots get it through your thick skull that just because anime is in japanese doesn't mean it's /a/ related?
Why not have Daily Chinese threads, since manga raws usually get out first in chinese?
Why not have tech support threads teaching people the technical aspects of subbing and scanlating anime? I mean, it's more of a /g/ thing, but it's ok because I want to use this knowledge specifically for my anime hobby, right?
Why not have threads telling us how to eat healthy and stay in shape? It's more of a /ck/ and /fit/ thing, but I want to be healthy for the sake of enjoying my anime, and being healthy gives me more energy to work on more /a/ related projects, so it's perfectly acceptable to have a permanent thread on /a/, right?

Your thread is more ontopic on /jp/ and /int/ that it'll ever be on /a/, if they don't like you, go fix those boards instead of shitting up /a/ with your offtopic shit.
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>>850035
How the fuck are those different from /djt/ and buyfag when all they do is blog/sauce and repost shit 24/7? they're even worse since they spill out from those containment threads
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>>849951
Also loads of BRs, in fact the first people to get exposed on /int/ as DJT regulars were BRs and Australians
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why delete this instead of all the cancerous circlejerks like:
>monmusume
>gup
>jojo
>kancolle
>yuruyuri
etc
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>>850057
>>gup
They moved it to C but

>>>/a/150081289

Still there.
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>>850007
one page and 3x3 threads are literal rec threads
there was a time when they were relatively infrequent, but now they might as well be generals.
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>>850083
That is a normal looking thread that looks like some /gup/ regulars hid in
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>>850057
>stop discussing anime and manga that I don't like even though they regularly get new content
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Seriously what's the problem with >>849955 ?
That seems like the best solution to me.
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>>850104
>>>/r/eddit
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>>848711
If I was DJT I would just make a discord, desu.

>Chatroom with pictures and all the permanence that you want, essentially the same as your current generals but you don't have to remake them every few days
>Isolated hugbox, so you don't have to deal with the meanies from /a/, /jp/ or /int/
>Most circlejerk generals have a stale population of the same 50 or so guys, so all you have to do is make sure everyone gets in and you're gold.
>Likewise, most circlejerk generals like this are full of tripfags, so you'll feel right at home by having names.
>Having names might actually improve the quality of your discussion since it passively discourages shitposting and helps you deal with shitposters more easily.
>Discord even has a web app which you can load on a separate tab, while you browse /a/ on another.
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>>850124
I can't believe you're recommending such a cancerous thing.
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>>850124
Yeah, just make a chatroom guise!
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>>850124
You clearly know nothing about DJT.
>>850112
Nice argument.
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>>850136
Thanks, I use it to reply to every retard making idiotic questions.
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>>850130
I don't get the purpose of this post but I appreciate the picture of Sherlock, which I will save.
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>>850130
But that's literally what generals are.
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>>850124
DJT has a large number of unique posters, if you haven't noticed.
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>>850168
and this changes things how?
does discord have a population limit?
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>>850172
It doesn't work like your favourite circlejerk general does.
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>>850168
It's funny how people who have never been on DJT and possibly other generals act like they know what they're talking about.
They must love their boogeymen.
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I hope that mod is enjoying the /qa/ raid on /a/ that he promoted.
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>>850175
I'm sure you are, you special snowflake.
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>>850191
>raid
you mean a circlejerk crying
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>>850168
And yet nobody gives a fuck except a single BR guy with a mod complex.
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>>850208
Maybe because they don't want to get banned?
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>>850208
What does BR mean?
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>>850225
brazilian
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>>850225
Big Rectum
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>>850225
Broly
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>>850226
>>850228
Synonyms.
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There's no reason it can't go on /jp/. It would fit in perfectly with every other scheduled, rehashed general that defines modern /jp/'s catalog.
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>>850240
There is one big reason.

It gets deleted when it gets posted on /jp/.
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>>850124
The irony is DJT is completely different from all of these other circlejerk generals. We have lots of new traffic and varying userbase, no tripfags at all, and plenty of interaction with anime like New Game and manga like Yotsuba. It's actually the least offensive general.
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>>850245
All the more reason for it to enrich other boards.
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>>850241
Then /jp/ needs to be fixed.

Why do we even have /jp/ around?
No, seriously, what's the point of that fucking board?
It started as a containment board for Touhou and VNs under the guise of "Japanese Culture", and now it is this weird, closed subculture of arbitrary rules about what is and is not /jp/ material.
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>>850248
It's *literally* just a containment board for the people that live in exile there. When /jp/ goes down, they start shitting up every single tangentially anime related board, including /a/, REALLY HARD.
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>>850248
>weird, closed subculture of arbitrary rules
Hmm, sounds familiar. *sidelong glance at /a/*
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>>850226
>>850228
>>850232
I need an answer before I go to bed.
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>>850255
It's Brazilian, you idiot. The answer was given. Are you really so dumb that you can't figure it out from context?
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>>850258
How do you know the ban evading guy is brazilian?
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>>850263
/int/ flags and himself admitting he's a hue.
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>>850252
/a/ is anime and manga, not japanese language, seems pretty straight forward to me m8.
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>>850265
This is probably going to need an explanation. "Hue" is a sound that Brazilians make. It's theorized to be laughter but many are uncertain on this point.
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>>850248

/jp/'s point is to be a safespace for the janitor's favorite general's and porn fetishes.
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>>850270
I know that, but I'm referring to all these weird exceptions and loopholes in /a/'s rules. DJT was one of them, but there are many more left.
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DJT needs its own chan.
DJTchan when?
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>>850248
/jp/ is nominally a media board

in practice it's kind of garbage but that can't be helped
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Why not make a discord though?
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>>850280
because discord is garbage
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>>850287
No it's not. It's better than being shit on by these garbage mods.
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>>850287
how so?
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>>850280
Names, and zero visibility.
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>>850291
or you could just use irc like a normal person
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>>850294
Can't post images though. Well you can, but it's more of a hassle
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>>850280
Because contrary to what all the shitposting implies, those threads aren't literal chatrooms.
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>>850296
we could if we made DCC great again
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>>850287
>because discord is garbage
So are your threads.

>>850305
They function the same way as one, you cancerous piece of shit generalfag.
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>>850293
>visibility
Like you get any new posters outside of your circle.
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>>850310
If there are no names and no immediate replies, then they aren't chat rooms.
But please keep using the same arguments over and over again because it's amusing.
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>>850315
Why are you so afraid of names, Anon?
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The real problem is 4chan, nobody cry about djt in 8ch, even wizchan has a thread for learning japanese the weeb way in jp.
The problem can be solved if djt-kun leave this piece of shit.
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>>850324
I don't know, it's almost like I enjoy the anonymity aspect of 4chan.
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>>850325
Problem solved.

See you all on 8ch.
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>>850287
>>850293
Discord is actually anonymous so fuck you generalfag.
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>>850335
pseudonymous != anonymous
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>>850325
>>850331
8ch really would be a good site to use. I'm sure a board exists that's willing to accommodate your thread but on top of that you can create your own board. Unfortunately /djt/ is taken by some Swedish idiot but he has the only post so I bet you could post a bunch there and he wouldn't notice.
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>>850328
>I can't be condescending towards newbies and eops if they know my name
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>>850348
Good point. Time to become a tripfag.
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>>848711
Doing gods work mod.
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>>848711
Just leave it.
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Brutal.
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>>850341
>encouraging people to migrate to cripplechan
Moot would slap you if he had any arm strength
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>>850983
/a/ don't want them
/int/ don't want them
/jp/ don't want them
So why get them to stay anyway? And where?
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>>851051
Who the fuck cares if some outflux of shitposters from /a/ doesn't want DJT on /a/?
It's been there for years and in much better condition than it is now. The threads here and on /int/ are just welling up with sewage.
Move DJT back to /a/, live down the temporary barrage of angst posts from crossboarders, and delete this unsightly mess of a board so that kind of pointless drama doesn't take place again.
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>>851071
Tell that to the mod who did the move.
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>>851051
/a/ here. I've never used their thread, but they've never bothered me either so they're fine with me.
Please let DJT come back to /a/.
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>>850311
Keep telling yourself that. New posters are actually what kept DJT alive for all these years. But what do you know, you've never been there.
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>>851071
>Move DJT back to /a/, live down the temporary barrage of angst posts from crossboarders,
Anon, you are the crossboarders. /a/ doesn't want you and never really has.

>>851093
>New posters are actually what kept DJT alive for all these years
Crossboarders from /int/ and /v/ are exactly what turned the general into a messy off topic chatroom that needed to be purged. It was a cesspit allowing anons to linger in /a/ while having no interest in anime or manga.
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As an /int/olerant, I think my two cents are worth something on this discussion, considering that a mod moved the thread there.

Couldn't give two shits about them staying there, most general stay to themselves anyway. However, the posters from /djt/ are a bunch of cunts whose level off butthurt is immeasurable, they unironically use EOP/ESL as insults on a language learning thread, complain about muh flags enabling shitposting when they are the first ones to do it themselves, they don't want to stay there nor want to be on good terms with the rest of the board. They're basically refugees.

/int/ already has a Japanese thread, where most posts are in Japanese, be it from nips or from some other few westerner, in contrast with djt who mostly are people learning Japanese that for some reason wouldn't consider leaving their safe space to go.

They clearly don't nor want to be there. However, if I have to endure having mods telling me that I can't discuss international news on the so called international board, with stickies telling people to go to fucking /pol/ that stay for days after these big events happen, then I don't get why an anime board should have a language thread, when there are boards for Japanese culture and international culture already

tl;dr: Fuck off, we're full. Go to /jp/ or something.
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>>850341
>Unfortunately /djt/ is taken by some Swedish idiot but he has the only post so I bet you could post a bunch there and he wouldn't notice.
/a/ already has their own DJT on eight chan.
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>>850983
>Moot would slap you if he had any arm strength
m00t was pretty apathetic about telling anons to use a different site if they didn't like it here. He was kind of infamously known for not giving a fuck in his response to anons. I'm sure there is an archive of /q/ somewhere you can read all about it.
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>>851131
/jp/ and /a/ don't want it either. I think the thread should just die altogether.
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>>851131
Mods are global, retard. The thread was moved to /int/ by a mod. Your containment board's opinion is uncalled for and DJT will stay out of /jp/.
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>>851131
>tl;dr: Fuck off, we're full. Go to /jp/ or something.
/jp/ feels the same way, for the reasons you have expressed. Realistically speaking, /djt/ have their own external home site and means to communicate, and they also have the option of forming and moderating their own board on 八ちゃん, among countless other non-4chan solutions where they could be perfectly happy and not have to worry about anyone else.
Yet, as you have also pointed out, they want their safe space on /a/ but
1. it gives them a sense of being hidden in plain view; in front of an audience by somehow exclusive by being on a legacy board, and
2. arrogance: they have spent a few years on /a/ and over those years the worst general fags who didn't contribute anything but spent their time there talking down others, where more and more open about the fact that they were on /a/ but the thread wasn't about anime and manga, nor where they bound by the same rules as everyone else on /a/.
Now that this has blown up in their face, I'd imagine most of these generalfags who were so pushy and arrogant for years, secure in their apparently immunity, are pretty humiliated and ego bruised. By trying to throw a tantrum and force their way back into /a/, it is an attempt to remove shame and restore the lost sense of honour, to put it one way.
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>>851130
>everyone who disagrees with me is a crossboarder
Not an argument.
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>>851184
That general in particular was full of crossboarders.
I don't care if you don't want to accept it, but the public record is clear and after what has recently happened, you'll find it damn hard to convince anyone on /a/ otherwise.
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>>851192
>That general in particular was full of crossboarders.
Prove it.
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>>851197
>Prove it.
The threads made it self evident.
There was a reason why it moved away from /a/.
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>>851164
>Mods are global
And certain mods prefer certain threads.Simply saying mods are global has nothing to do with the main point. I wish people like you would stop parroting that without first thinking about the context of the posts.
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>>850981
TOPKEK
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>>851164
I don't get your post, my friend. In no way I even implied mods weren't global , I just stated a fact: some mod moved djt to /int/ yesterday.

>Your containment board's opinion is uncalled for
It is worth something, as it is my home board we're talking about. We already have a Japanese thread and don't need another one. /int/ as a whole is full of generals that plague the front page, we certainly don't need another one that isn't adding anything the Japanese thread couldn't do.
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>>851214
Looks like he's just further proving your point: act arrogant and then throw a hissy fit when things don't go his way.
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>>851208
>>851214
According to the mod, DJT belongs on /int/. You can say whatever you want, but that's it. There are also people on /a/ who want generals back, but it doesn't matter either because the mod has already decided to remove them. You don't get to speak on behalf of your board and you're not entitled to an opinion.
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This mod will break in time. Look at nipple mod but if he doesn't then I worry about the loli, incest and imouto threads on /a/ will be moved or deleted now.
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>>851225
We just need to get Hiro involved.
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>>851222
Tell that to the DJT people whining about wanting to go back to /a/ then. They're the ones throwing a big tantrum. /int/ wouldn't care as much if they took the old /a/ advice of fitting in with the board one is in.

>You don't get to speak on behalf of your board and you're not entitled to an opinion.
Exactly, so you DJT fags should shut up and accept it. You're kicked out of /a/. The end.
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>>851214
Are you implying the arrogant fucks who plagued the DJT are going to post on the jap thread where they're going to be called out on what they are because there are actually natives and fluents over there?
They aren't gonna be able to brag since it's not their safe space where they can shit talk low level learners, they don't want that.

Also, as an /a/民, good fucking riddance.
That cancer thread series can die.
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>>851226
The problem lies in that pseudo-generals like those have been on /a/ before the rise of the more cancerous kind. You need someone with a gentle touch otherwise you'll be doing more harm than good.
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>>851225
You can't really compare with nipplemod case though. There's a much bigger uproar since it affects way more people. There were a hell lot more threads being made with way more anons being pissed off.
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>>851227
>Tell that to the DJT people whining about wanting to go back to /a/ then.
How about you go to DJT and report these posts?
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>>851233
>You need someone with a gentle touch otherwise you'll be doing more harm than good.
Or, now hear my out, you need someone willing to roll up their sleeves, get their hands dirty and outlast the screaming autists till they finally run out of steam and accept their fate.
It would only take a couple of weeks to a month or two max before they stop carrying on and moved elsewhere. While it may be a lot of moderation up front, it saves a lot of bullshit down the line when they become even more entrenched and under the false impression that they are entirely above the rules of the board.
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>>851240
>autists

Mate, some of the things like lolis, incest and imouto threads would fall under the axe of this purge.
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>>851244
Good.
They have other boards for image dumping and blogging. As an exclusive lolicon I can tell you those loli threads on /a/ are nothing but a shit stain. /a/ is for discussion about anime and manga, not an excuse to dump lewd images to fap with friends or to talk about your day.
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>>851240
bruh you're vastly overestimating how much the mods care
they'll give up long before the autists do
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>>851247
You're not even from /a/ from the sounds of it. Those threads have been on there longer than you have.
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>>851249
>You're not even from /a/ from the sounds of it.
I've been on /a/ since late 2005.
>Those threads have been on there longer than you have.
Don't try to pull that fucking card with me, you little shit. I saw /a/ be entirely fucking destroyed in terms of board culture through 2007 to 2009, so don't fucking try to tell me that those threads are historically valuable as the shitters who mindlessly post them didn't give the slightest fuck about the culture of the board before them.
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>>851253
Well then, I hope mod fails then since I'll lose something in the general purge then.
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You do nothing?

DJT wasn't even a problem. If anything, it did some good.
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>>851253
Tell me; what threads do you browse and post in?
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>>850981
>DJT drama 76
>76
まじ
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>>848711
>daily japanese thread
It's literally just fucking /jp/
>>848844
>Shit that /jp/ don't want to hear about.
Too fucking bad, then. Mods don't exist to please secondary touhou fanboys, they exist to keep the site tidy.
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Flags are the only real problem here. The solution is to trigger a script that doesn't show flags in the thread if the thread title has "DJT" in it.
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>>851233
And Hiro is someone who's willing to listen to any board before making decisions. Just look at >>472531. Most of the people in support of all the shit that's happened are obvious crossboarders who either don't give a fuck about /a/ or outright hate the board, how is that a good representative of the board at all? Letting /qa/ live this long was the biggest mistake Hiro has ever made.
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>>852389
Except that in the case of the /jp/ mod it's pretty apparent he's doing what he damn well pleases. It's no coincidence that porn is allowed on /jp/ on the ground that it's JAV. He doesn't want DJT, so he deletes them right on cue.
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>>851131
Don't worry faggot, the only people you have to worry about using DJT on your board are all mostly newfags like yourself.

The rest of us wouldn't touch your shitty board, so take it easy.
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>ban an /a/ "general"
>another thread about the series gets created
>the same people start posting there
>containing your shit in one thread is "cancer" but a billion "I want to fuck her" and shit that belongs in /e/ is ebin "board culture"
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It's pretty much just one or two BRs fanning the flames and stirring shit. In other words, moving it to /int/ was a good move since it exposed the black sheep infecting an otherwise normal (by /a/ standard) thread.
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I dont think it will work out on int. the flags are just fucking it and obvious people on int are trolling. A
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If DJT doesn't belong anywhere, then it should simply cease to exist. There, problem solved.
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>>852467
That didn't stop you from making a home on 4chan, so why would you expect that to work with DJT?
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>>850331
>See you all on 8ch.
said no one
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>>852443
From the /int/ thread it looks like it's just an australiafag butthurt about the thread's existence.
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>>852480
Check the previous threads. The strayan dude just whines while the hue posters were actively stirring shit up.
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>>852493
What the Australian piece of shit is doing is definitely not outside the margin of "actively stirring shit up."
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>>852480
>>852499
The BR anon was the one trying to derail the raw manga thread. Aussiefag didn't even give a shit about the raw manga thread.
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Don't you fuckwits realize that you're already demonstrating how shitty /int/ is going to be for DJT?

You're already fucking talking about countries users are from and making broad sweeping generalizations trying to pinpoint "the countries that cause the problems, all us other countries only produce quality posters"

That's the curse of /int/, you can't avoid it. It's already setting in. I'm not even using DJT on that board and even I can already see it.

I want nothing to do with this shit. DJT died on /a/ and hasn't been revived yet. That abomination on /int/ is not DJT. Wake me up when we're allowed to host DJT on a real 4chan board.
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>>852480
>>852493
>>852499
Go away monkey.
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>>852508
personally its great to know the people who didnt get my jokes all this time were brs who dont know english 爆笑
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>>852508
Excellent then, because my plan was to crash DJT with no survivors.
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>>848729
>12
Retard.
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>>852518
sorry thats not at all whats happening dude
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>>852508
>You're already fucking talking about countries users are from and making broad sweeping generalizations trying to pinpoint "the countries that cause the problems, all us other countries only produce quality posters"
They were already doing the same shit, for over a year, while the thread was on /a/. Only then it was pure paranoia whereas now they have more evidence to fuel their silly shitposting.
DJT has been a pseudo /int/ general on /a/ for at least the past two years. They were outwardly hostile to /a/nons coming into their general on /a/.
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>>852517
yeah pretty funny to see one of them trying to take a jab at your grammar
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>>852508
>You're already fucking talking about countries users are from and making broad sweeping generalizations trying to pinpoint "the countries that cause the problems, all us other countries only produce quality posters"
NIgga please, that shit has been a 4chan tradition right from the beginning. Our beloved founder even personally designated Australia as shitposting nation while /a/ has been happily mocking chinks and being armchair experts of japan.
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The mods should really look at the people who are shitposting in every DJT related thread and perma ban them. It's clear there are a couple people just stirring shit and trying their hardest to get rid of DJT for some reason, probably autism
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>>852522
Tell that to >>852508 He's the one being super salty about it.
People who want to learn japanese can still use the resources from /int/ jap thread and practice within that thread.

When they're able to read stuff, they're welcome to be in the raw manga threads. Meanwhile, you're precious DJT is dead on /a/, a joke on /int/ and then of course, equally a joke on here >>849793.
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>>852523
>>852528
Ok great, and what good is that going to do? Please enlighten me.

Maybe now that we know what country the faggots are from they'll stop being faggots? Right?

In reality they are going to be just as annoying as ever, the only that that will change is that you're going to be douchebags to innocent people from the same country who just want to learn Japanese
and at the end of the day you spend all your time talking about what fucking country people are from on an anonymous imageboard in a thread that's supposed to just be about learning a language.
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>>852523
Seeing flags has nothing to do with crossboarding though, not sure why you made that connection. It's just bringing another layer of shitposting into the threads.
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>>852535
i mean my endgame is to help my boys learn japanese by any means necessary and were still on course for that

this transition process and the period shortly after is still earlygame

the boys that have been showing out all this time are gonna fuckin make it i promise
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>>852541
Welcome to 4chan, faggot. You're kind of many years too late to be raising that shit now. Or what, are you only playing this card now because your game's up?
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>>852547
Your "newfag" card doesn't apply here faggot. I have raised these issues before, what do you want me to do, make a new thread about it every day since flags were first introduced to 4chan?

This is a new issue, and it's about a specific thread, so old hatred of flag boards is resurfacing here.
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If you don't like DJT, what are you doing here other than shitposting?
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>>852534
>The mods should really look at the people who are shitposting in every DJT related thread and perma ban them.
You can't permaban shitposters, you mong.
>It's clear there are a couple people just stirring shit and trying their hardest to get rid of DJT
No. The thread culture itself was entirely divorced from /a/ and openly embraced /int/ related discussion while trying to "self moderate" away the occasional criticism when the few vocal anons told them to take this off topic discussions to another board.
You don't get to try and make out as though it was a minority when in reality it was a minority of anons who were being vocal about getting rid of non-/a/ posting, which where shouted down for it.
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>>852552
>what do you want me to do
Keep being mad and whine about shit while people who actually want to learn moon are actually learning moon. Flags didn't cause much issue for int's nip thread, so looks like it's indeed an internal djt problem. You can keep blaming flags all you like while conveniently ignoring that djt would't have been kicked out of /a/ in the first place if it was clean.

Just accept that your game's up and no amount of blame shifting will change shit for you.
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>>852544
Why did you ignore the entire point of that post?
It's because your a generalfag desperate to try and spin the situation into a favorable light, isn't it?
It won't work. You idiots are transparent and mods have access to archives of your thread, so they can see for themselves just how off topic and unrelated to /a/ it was. That's probably why they moved it.
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>>852568
>You don't get to try and make out as though it was a minority when in reality it was a minority of anons who were being vocal about getting rid of non-/a/ posting, which where shouted down for it.
i dont really get it
are you saying that a minority is not a minority
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>>852572
Right, so you're just some random /a/non who hated DJT, why the fuck should anyone be listening to you?
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>>852573
>>852523
>DJT has been a pseudo /int/ general on /a/ for at least the past two years. They were outwardly hostile to /a/nons coming into their general on /a/.
You are acting like the flags are some kind of evidence most anons in djt weren't from /a/, when there is no connection whatsoever between crossboarding and what country posters come from.
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>>852541
>Ok great, and what good is that going to do? Please enlighten me.
What do you mean? You're not entitled a safe space on 4chan. You idiots were booted out of /a/ due to your own behavior and now you rot in /int/.
Unless you can go back in time around two years ago and try to mass self moderate the thread with a handful of people to get rid of and prevent the off topic shit in those threads, you're tough out of luck.
What you don't seem to get here, anon, is that no one is entitled a space for a permanent thread on 4chan.

>In reality they are going to be just as annoying as ever
Actions and consequences. Should have thought about that a long time ago before crafting the thread culture you guys did.
>who just want to learn Japanese and at the end of the day
They have everything they need; the threads themselves are entirely superfluous. See this link: http://djt.neocities.org/ they don't need anything else.

>and at the end of the day you spend all your time talking about what fucking country people are from on an anonymous imageboard in a thread that's supposed to just be about learning a language.
That's all they really did even while the thread is on /a/. Now it will be even more intense. Just deserts.
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>>852572
/int/'s nip thread is not a learning thread, it's just a chatroom
flags definitely do play a massive part in the posting that goes on in it, have you even fucking been there?
very minimal learning or advice-giving actually goes on there
it's inherently split off from DJT's /a/ culture
DJT is actually a pretty damn valuable learning resource, I've seen and given a good amount of advice through it
it's also not toxic to /a/ in any way or even unrelated to anime and manga considering ALL anime and manga is in fucking japanese
the discussion of other japanese media on there might be less directly related but the connection is still tangibly there
in all honesty it deserves a lax approach when it comes to /a/ rules considering its value and how long it's been up; by this point it and /a/ are not seperable
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>>852583
>and now you rot in /int/.
So you agree with me. Great, I don't need to bother reading the rest of your post.

I don't give a fuck if you think it belongs on /a/ or not, that's an entirely separate issue. All I ever said was /int/ is going to turn it into even worse shit than it already was.
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>>852583
>
They have everything they need; the threads themselves are entirely superfluous. See this link: http://djt.neocities.org/ they don't need anything else.

how can you keep blowing this shit out your ass holy christ
it's like you don't even know japanese
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>>852589
>can't even swamptext properly
haha fagger
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>>852590
woops
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>>852581
>You are acting like the flags are some kind of evidence
No, I'm telling you of the nature of the threads. You are trying to promote a red herring because this entire thread is an attempt to paint a different picture to the reality of the situation in order to mislead people. It's desperate damage control for a group of anons who know they have no valid argument for remaining on /a/.
No one is buying it. Give up. Accept your new home as the consequences of your actions.
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>>852585
djt wasnt toxic to /a/ it was toxic to its own mission

all of the advice is memes and injokes that people none the wiser accept as truth and then waste their time with

the occasional legit person rolled through laughed and moved on while everyone basically continued on with this reenactment of an aristocrats joke that has spanned for years

and now in order to save the boys that have stuck it out this long effectively getting trolled this chain must be broken
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>>852599
there's plenty of specific advice whenever someone posts e.g. a sentence he had trouble with

you're there practically 24/7 anyway you should know what the general flow of the thread is right

i dont realistically see anybody being saved by flagposting whining and the occasional netouyo but i guess we'll see how it plays out through the next few days
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>>852604
yeah but that stuff is bandaids or maybe feeding the birds youre not helping anyone become capable of doing anything

its a nice gesture for sure and that shouldnt go unappreciated but it is what it is

what direction and form djt takes from here if any at all is as always up to each and every poster but if their mission stays true they will always find common ground together
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>>852599
What is your advice on learning Japanese?
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>>852612
>youre not helping anyone become capable of doing anything

im going to have to disagree with you on this one

it's closer to teaching a man to fish than it is to giving him a fish ultimately
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>djt starts out as a small group of /a/nons wanting to learn japanese for anime/manga
>other boards/sites catch notice of it and join
>nobody bothers to self moderate
>eventually turns into an outsider colony on /a/ full of people who don't care about the board itself
>promptly gets booted to /int/
You got what you deserved. Whether you were too lazy to self moderate or you're so new you think ignoring shit makes it go away doesn't matter anymore, it's over.
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>>852613
dont, dont again, go to japan

identifying long term goals then effective short term goal setting of specific things and meeting those short term goals regularly

no this doesnt mean flash cards though flash cards arent useless if used effectively in your specific regimen tailored to what youre doing

>>852617
i mean i see it that way in some ways but thats assuming someone takes good advice for a one-off and really takes it down and does their homework with it

i cant honestly give people that credit most of the time based on how things go in the threads
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>>852621
>the self moderation meme
You do realise that all it takes to ruin that is two people who don't give a fuck and continue to talk shit all day.
It's an impossible task when there's no way to penalise anyone.
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>>852626
but what if 10 more do give a fuck and talk non shit all day

your attitude is to blame first before anyone else
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>>852622
>dont, dont again, go to japan
That's absurd.
>identifying long term goals then effective short term goal setting of specific things and meeting those short term goals regularly
I agree, but that's not advice.
I'm just genuinely wondering how to learn Japanese properly, if what basically amounts to "read Tae Kim, do a few minutes of Anki every day and read a lot" is just memes and injokes.
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>>852626
>what is reporting
Don't even bother saying it doesn't work when it's very obvious you lot just didn't even bother reporting at all, and either lazily ignored low quality posts or outright accepted them. And if you personally did report every low quality post but they still weren't deleted, then it must have been that you were the only one, and mods on duty decided not to delete them because they thought it was normal DJT culture everyone except 1 fag was okay with, which would explain why they've now been moved to /int/.
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>>852629
it might be absurd but you asked me for my opinion so heres some more stupid shit to not read and place in the toilet

i dont have a ready made all you have to do is add water guide to help you reach your japanese goals

tyler kim: not a meme but also shit you should be comfortable with quickly generally and rarely referencing and its also not comprehensive -- its just potentially part of the gateway to knowing some basic rules and being able to use comprehensive japanese reference materials

anki: "do your reps" core vs rtk etc nuff said use your own brain to effectively utilize the benefit of flashcards

read a lot: not a meme but not enough to make you competent quickly either -- still very important to read at your reading level starting from the very fuckin bottom and work your way up

theres more ways to interact with the language that were not listed and that is up to you to figure out how to manage and put into your own personal curriculum in an effective way that you can demonstrate ability upon completion of the short term goals you set

in closing learning japanese "properly" is a pipe dream but if there is something close to properly its using the language through all channels and being able to apply and demonstrate something new every day or some shit

you got to try real hard no matter what goals you set and it goes quadruple if you dont have real people in your life to help

the djt materials list is enough to get you able to find and use other things -- its just the way some or most people go about studying that is ineffective

in closing 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4EiBFUpFXg
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>>852653
>tyler kim: not a meme
>read a lot: not a meme
where are the memes
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>>852661
oh sorry i guess there were none my bad
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>>848711

I would just allow the thread to exist on /a/, since literally no one on /a/ complains about DJT and there is only ever a problem when the mods interfere with things that are left well enough alone.
I mean, are the mods just bored or something? Surely there's something better to do than try to move a 4 year old reoccurring thread to boards that dont know it exists, or dont want it there.
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>>852599
I don't understand how you dare putting yourself on the sideline like this and judging us while you're one of the main reasons DJT has been banned from /a/. You were the most cancerous shitposter we had and you continue to show it throughout the /int/ thread as I am typing right now and even went as far as shitposting the raw manga tread that was up on /a/ an hour ago or so.

I've seen many users through the years I've spent on this website and I can honestly say you are the most egocentric and most terrible poster I've come across. You should be thankful to the mods for not having lifeban you already. I genuinely wonder why you haven't yet, but it looks like you were simply lucky enough to avoid it.

I wish you nothing but misery.
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>>848729

Who is the mod in that image and why isnt he running this site right now?
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>>852688
who am i making this autograph out to
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>>852688
by the way see this post >>852626

your attitude and inability to create positive dialogue is the reason djt isnt allowed on /a/

how dare you put yourself on the sidelines and make me your villain when you did nothing yourself to steer djt in the "right" direction

pretty dope to be a non committal hypocrite
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>>852689
That screencap was taken in 2012 and /int/ was made in 2013. You can plainly see that /lang/ was considered but dismissed because it was a text board, whereas /int/ now fulfills the conditions. Also the current DJT userbase is barely original /a/ anymore. The part of why DJT was allowed was because it was by /a/ for /a/, and having it turn into a reddit colony leaves little reason to leave it on /a/.
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>>852697
You don't know who I am, the kind of posts I would make nor what I have contributed so far to DJT - and this is how it should be, because we are all anons.

Except you, because your cancerous aura is so intense everyone is able to recognize you. You very well know this and play around with it, you like it, you like the attention, this is all you have after all.

I see the post you linked, it is referring to you. No matter how many times you were reported, the mods never banned you once. Earlier again, report had to be made over /int/ in order to delete your posts, but that's it, they were deleted, you weren't banned.

We can't get anywhere until the mods decide to put an end to your pathetic existence.
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>>852700
>having it turn into a reddit colony
This never happened, stop trying to make this point. It won't go through.
/int/ doesn't really fulfill the conditions because it doesn't have spoiler boxes and the flags really cut into any helpful discussion. They also have their own language thread which clashes with DJT.
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>>852711
I don't know if you're just being stubborn or you're so cancerous you think low quality posts are "normal", but it is what it is.

>it doesn't have spoiler boxes
Why the fuck do you need spoiler tags for learning a language? You one of those faggots who use them as "surprise boxes"? See this is the type of shit DJT has become.

>the flags really cut into any helpful discussion
If you were all quality posters like you claim and not shitposting redditors there wouldn't be a problem.
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>>852700
>Also the current DJT userbase is barely original /a/ anymore. The part of why DJT was allowed was because it was by /a/ for /a/, and having it turn into a reddit colony leaves little reason to leave it on /a/.
You and others say this but no proof has been posted. No archive links, no screenshots from threads on /a/, nothing to say it was like that. You could offer the /int/ thread as proof, but there's no way of knowing whether it was in this state before being moved from it's home board, or simply the result of being moved to a new board with different rules and culture.
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>>852700

>reddit colony

Fuck right off back there, faggot.
Dont project yourself onto others.
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>>852705
ive gotten in trouble for breaking rules a good handful of times so i try not to break them while still being myself isnt that what its all about

maybe the cancer sits strongest inside of you in the end with all that shade youre slinging

hell are you sure youre even talking to the right guy right now

i want djt to be on task and not bitching at each other all the time and people actually chilled out generally over time however there was an inverse effect of the more people chilled out the less about japanese and by extension anime and manga and /a/ culture in general the posts became and this is not all one or two peoples fault
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>>852688
>>852697
Please stop, BR guy. There's nothing worth hue hue-ing about anymore. You're just making things worse yourself.
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>>852713
>Why the fuck do you need spoiler tags for learning a language?
You need spoiler boxes to discuss any media that you consume in order to learn the language.
Have you even been to a DJT thread aside from the refugee threads on /int/? How do you continue to post this drivel when you can't grasp simple tenets of discussion about language learning?

>If you were all quality posters like you claim and not shitposting redditors there wouldn't be a problem.
This doesn't make any sense.
Flags remove anonymity and encourage off topic discussion. You can't be an idealist about this shit.
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>>852653
I appreciate the honest reply. First, let me preface this by saying that, yes, as is probably obvious, I' a DJT regular, so needless to say I'm not in the slightest happy about what happened, but I understand WHY it happened and concede that we are partly to blame. I agree with basically everything you said, especially about Anki/kanji shitposting. All along, I did my best to keep that sort of trash at bay, e.g. by telling people that it doesn't matter what method they pick as long as they stick with it to the end, but it was mostly fruitless. That said -- and, really, there's no way put what I'm about to say without sounding aggressive or overly defensive, but I assure you that's not my intention; I just want to have a normal conversation with you, so please respond seriously --, it surprises me to see you of all people come here to denounce the state of DJT. You (and not only you, but, like it or not, you succeeded in crafting a recognizable identity) constantly spammed the thread with mockery, passive-aggressiveness and shitposting catchphrases (speaking of that, I also don't get why someone who on multiple occasions flipped out at people using racial slurs would continuously fill the thread with homophobic posts, but I digress). Even now, after DJT was banished from /a/ (which I had assumed was your goal all along), you're in the /int/ thread celebrating (in your own words: "任務完了boys爆笑") and doing your usual song and dance. Tell me: what were you trying to achieve with that? You say that you wanted to contribute towards making DJT a healthy learning environment and help people learn Japanese, but to me and most likely just about everyone else, it (understandably) came across as the exact opposite. I know it doesn't matter anymore, but I would still like to know.
It won't surprise me if this wall of text is all in vain and you ignore me or reply to me with a one-liner, but it's worth a try.
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>>852724
>maybe the cancer sits strongest inside of you
Maybe you should start wondering why so many people get on your back. Get a clue.
>hell are you sure youre even talking to the right guy right now
Yes, Jamal.

>>852725
I'm not Brazilian. He isn't either afaik.
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>>852719
Yeah everyone encouraging that BR to spam /a/ and people talking about making a DJT subreddit while admitting they only came to /a/ for DJT anyway then trying to hijack the raw manga thread because you really need your circlejerk to study Japanese really says nothing at all about how top quality DJT on /a/ was. Truly activated my frontal lobe.
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>>852725
one of those two is jamal and the other is probably the french guy who waxed poetic in the /int/ threads
lay off the flags moron
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>>852711
>flags really cut into any helpful discussion
It didn't cut into their jap thread's discussion. I browsed both int's jap thread and djt even before this whole mod's forced movement and really, you djt people need to get that stick out of your ass.

Oh, and if your retort is just another 'lel another EOPleb who is salty for getting told to fuck off from djt' then all the more you should observe how int's jap thread deal with their shit: which is better than you guys.
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>>852731
I'm not jamal but let me just say for the record
typing out "I am gay" in japanese is not homophobia
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>>852735
Touché, it's me.
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>>852733
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims? Show, don't tell.
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>>852741
"Haha gay people are funny" several times a thread seems like textbook homophobia to me, but again, whatever, I don't really care about that.
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>>852744
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>>852731
He is very well aware of what he's doing, his ego simply gets in the way so it is impossible for him to change his faults.

It's just a game to him, he's never taken any of this seriously and takes pride in it.
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>>852744
You first. You're the ones demanding to be let back in. Over the past many threads spread across 3 boards, it's always you lot crying victim over how it's a ploy by a few posters deceiving the mod or having the mod on their side.
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>>852744
>
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>>852739
see >>852585
日本語スレ isn't a learning thread
it's an /int/ chatroom
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>>852744
>duplicate file
>>852443
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>>852751
I'm the one who posted this and I was obviously ironic. I am 100% US anon also was.

Let's not kid ourselves though, you very well know this, you're just using this as a propaganda tool to push your anti-DJT narrative.
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>>852731
i was never homophobic on the contrary 私はゲイ

if you thought that was me having anti gay agenda then you should be able to see the sarcasm in 「任務完了boys爆笑」right

anyway i read all of your shit and it seems like you as well as many others are being extremely short sighted with the current state of affairs almost as if its all over

no this is the part where we rebuild bigger better and stronger than before and actually create some success stories instead of a place for people to hang out and talk about how they arent getting anywhere but hey check out my anki graph
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>>852755
I'm sure the /a/ spam and raw manga thread hijack was all harmless irony as well.
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>>852748
>>852754
there's no encouragement here
if you want to blame the ban evader then go ahead
there's fucking nothing you can do about a ban evader though

>>852751
I have every reason to believe these posts were a joke

either way those were literally ALL from the /int/ fallout threads

doesn't make any sense as a reply to this guy's post >>852719
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>>852758
I was reporting anything mentioning DJT in that thread so your attacks should be redirected elsewhere.
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>>852760
>there's no encouragement
>"looking forward to your next thread redein"
>"that's fantastic"
If you really are retarded, he was referring to the next spam thread(s) on /a/.
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>>852758
that was a raw manga thread not DJT
all done by a ban evader i dont think anyone really sympathizes with here
it got taken care of pretty well too
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>>852765
that's one guy you clown
if he's enough reason to exile a general then any one non-shitposter is enough reason to fucking move it back to /a/ and end this lame internet scandal already
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>>852762
>>852767
Does it matter? Those are the types of people who shared DJT with you - spammers and raiders. 4 years of DJT and you couldn't self moderate these retards out, 99.99% because you didn't care and just wanted to circlejerk without having to bother using the report function. Shit, I was in that raw manga thread and some autist sperged about deliberately not reporting a post with an emoticon to show that people didn't use the report function. Bullshit harder.
>>
All in all I'm pretty sure we're all wasting our time in those various /qa/ threads as mods don't even bother reading or trying to understand anything that has went on.

Surely if they cared they'd have laid a message or two already.
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>>852777
We mentioned many times how reporting served no purpose since mods would just ignore it. Prime example up there with Jamal up there still being able to post on 4chan.
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>>852772
>backpedaling
On the reverse side, there was nobody telling him to fuck off and stop ruining the image of DJT. Maybe everybody secretly wanted it as well or they simply didn't care about /a/. Huh, kind of like what I've been accusing DJT of this entire time when it came to self moderation while it was still allowed on /a/. You let shit fester and got kicked out because it stank, the end.
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>>852784
>We mentioned many times how reporting served no purpose since mods would just ignore it.
See >>852631
And again refer to the example of anon/smiley post in the raw manga thread.
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>>852777
Yes, of course it fucking matters. That was all fallout from this scandal. As much your fault as mine.
Only moderators can moderate, stop it with this self-moderation tripe.

>>852785
I'm not backpedaling, I'm just assuming you can understand that those posts were from the same person and that one (or even three or five) posters do not constitute a majority.
Again with "self-moderation."
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>>852756
See this post: >>852745
I'm not saying you have an "anti-gay agenda" or anything of the sort. I don't think you're a homophobe, and either way, if it bothered me that much, I would have quit the site where "fag" is used as a nominalizer years ago. 仕方ない。
It's just rather puzzling to me that this person: http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/142338405/#142341695 (which I'm 99% sure is you, but please let me know if I'm mistaken) would find it funny and entertaining to post "I'm gay" over and over. You didn't address my main point, either:
>You [...] constantly spammed the thread with mockery, passive-aggressiveness and shitposting catchphrases [...]. [...] Tell me: what were you trying to achieve with that?
I hope you're right and DJT continues to exist, but also takes this as a good opportunity for some long-overdue self-evaluation. We'll just have to wait and see.
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>>852790
How many months, years, has it been since you've been so vehemently against DJT?

What is the reason? Do you remember it at least or do you simply act based on instinct now?
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>>852790
The raw manga thread is not DJT. Any posts in there hold no affiliation with DJT on this anonymous imageboard.

As for this >>852631 you're a fucking idiot, you think you can make leaps of logic like
>it's very obvious you lot just didn't even bother reporting at all
>And if you personally did report every low quality post
(↑ is this some new form of backpedaling? fucking christ)
>it must have been that you were the only one
and not get called out on your shit?

Go back to /a/, you don't know what you're talking about. Your voice has been heard.
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>>852795
hmm this to me is a lot like asking a writer to talk about his works id really like to just leave it up to the reader for better or for worse but lets go ahead and call it a counter to the 出来ない meme

thats all im very anti talking about my posts id rather leave that to the rest of the boys to decide for themselves where the value is or if there is none

after all whats the difference between being a genius or a retard if your peers cant understand you right
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>>852791
>>852801
If you used the report function as adamantly as you lie about using the report function you wouldn't be in this mess. I've reported 5 hour "nice dubs xD" posts before only to see them removed in a minute. Too few people bother using the report function on /a/ these days, and so I have a hard time believing that you did especially with so much evidence.

>ugh another low quality post, whatever he's not worth my time reporting I'd rather spend my hard-earned captcha on an on-topic Japanese post
I guarantee these were the types of thoughts running through your or most of DJT's minds whenever a new reddit faggot joined the general. It's baffling you're even trying to lie and deny this when you've already been kicked out. Like you're acting as if I'm arguing for DJT to be removed from /a/ when it already has been removed. I'm simply telling you the reason it was removed.
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>>852805
Who the hell do you think you are and what the hell do you think you're trying to become?

You really need to grow up and snap out of your delusion. You've been nothing but a tumor to all of us.
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>>852805
I'm not sure what I was expecting. Ok then.
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>>852807
The justification for it being removed was that it's off-topic. That's obviously entirely subjective, because god knows how Japanese isn't related to anime and mange when all anime and manga is in Japanese, but even so, being subjective doesn't mean you can project your own irrational reasons for disliking DJT onto the situation.
You don't know the mod's reasoning behind removing it, so it's best you stay away from trying to explain it.

I don't see how me personally using the report function has anything to do with this. Of course I used the report function. It didn't amount to anything. That doesn't even matter, because that's not the reason DJT was removed from /a/. Low quality posts are on every fucking thread on this site.
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>>852823
>You don't know the mod's reasoning behind removing it
>>>/a/137040249

Actually read through that thread. Tons of off topic shit, nobody telling them to fuck off, and that's why it kept growing. In fact I don't see any self moderating at all in that thread. And then when the mod shows up everyone cries "baaw what can we even do about it boohoo". The more I talk to you the more I believe you didn't browse /a/ before DJT.
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>>852811
i dont even know how to answer this because like none of it applies to me

>>852813
sorry but to continue down that path is not what im interested in

theres a reason why im posting here and not the int shithole thread where i could just continue to jab that "djt is over" or whatever
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>>852828
Ok. Let's go with what you're saying and imagine a thread with all that off topic shit. It's all contained in one thread. One thread out of 150 fucking spots. How does that make /a/ worse?
/djt/ actually provided resources to help people learn Japanese to make it possible to enjoy Anime & Manga as it was meant to be consumed.
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>>852828
Self-moderation doesn't fucking exist.
Hell, you even know a mod was in that thread, how can you blame """self-moderation""" on an anonymous imageboard for failing to take care of off-topic posts?
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>>852805
>id rather leave that to the rest of the boys to decide for themselves where the value is or if there is none
And if they decide that there is none, what do you do? Get the fuck out? Stop shitposting? Of course not.

Stop bullshitting.
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>>852831
Hahaha, this is rich. From "dindu nuffin" to "who cares just let us stay REEEEE". Well I'm done here.

>>852832
Self moderation is literally why rec threads are officially disallowed on /a/, you moronic newfag. Compare it to /v/ where you can make vidya rec threads freely. Bunch of shitposting newfag fucks in here and I've confirmed it without a doubt now.
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>>852835
keep knocking on door as long as i feel like it

theres also the people who read but never post to consider when it comes to djt
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>>852839
>Hahaha, this is rich. From "dindu nuffin" to "who cares just let us stay REEEEE". Well I'm done here.
Did you just read my first sentence, which was a hypothesis, and then stop reading because you thought of that slick retort?
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>>852839
Self-moderation cannot officially disallow something.
Whether or not a group of anonymous users dislike some form of conduct on this website, only moderators can take action on it. It's not a democracy. There's no self-government.
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>>848715
Just bring back all of the discussion boards.
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>>848785
Yes it is and the result of which is the following:
>>>/int/67774458
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>>852850
It literally officially disallowed rec threads. Here's how /a/ works newfag: the majority makes it loud and clear that they want something, and they get it. The majority posts in DJT were off topic shitposts, with literally zero (0) push-back, and therefore the mods deemed the majority of DJT to be off topic shitposting and you got kicked out. Take this as my final advice for you if you want to get DJT back on /a/. Personally I don't care either way, but the one thing I do not want on /a/ is low quality shitposting redditors, which DJT in its present state is.
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>>852855
>Personally I don't care either way

damn this is really hard to believe after reading this monstrous moderation thread
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>>852858
Did you even finish reading that sentence? I'm against DJT because the community is presently full of garbage like you. If you faggots cleaned up your act I wouldn't care if it was moved back to /a/. You might want to start with the BR in the /int/ general who constantly announces his spamming and shitposting in /a/ out of revenge.
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>>852861
you need to cool off on replying to everybody who replies to you really buddy

>You might want to start with
we are almost all anonymous
how is one individual anonymous poster affiliated with any sort of threadlike presence
you could make an argument for my individual posts but empirically i don't actually exist as a "you" who you can address here
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>>848884
Every thread that complains about it gets swiftly deleted, smart ass.
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>>848711
give it a month, the shitty mod will go back to his normie life and everything will go back to buisness as usual.
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>>848745
>the rest of /a/
>a handful of autists
>some of which are crossboarders

funny how they only voiced their concerns after that mod made his post about generals, before then not a single peep.
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>>848745
>Except the rest of /a/ is happy for you to go.
You mean a vocal minority, I have no problem with DJT.
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