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ad reporting thread 4 2016-10-30 12:49:36 Post No. 799401
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If you find malicious ad, please report it.
- URL where you see the ad on 4chan.
- screen capture on 4chan (if available)
- destination URL (if available)
Thank you for your support!
FAQ:
As I wrote earlier, things has changed. servers cost gets up. And ads gone.
I'm afraid to say that I can't answer off-topic question.
If I do so, this thread doesn't work by flooding other off-topic questions.
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
Well, original purpose of the thread is to report malicious ads.
Actually, I don't feel good to take money from users.
I like to take money from advertisers.
At this time, 4chan can make contracts only low grade ad platforms unlike Google.
If 4chan manage to prevent malicious ads,
4chan will be able to run by advertisers money.
That's my plan.
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>>799401
there's a couple of people in the last thread what posted links, did you get them?
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i luv u hiro <3
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Oh it's the bullshitter
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>>799404
Really, I'll look for it.
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Honk honk
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>>799410
Remove 't b h' from the filter Hiro and I'll buy a pass.
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>>799407
Thanks!
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you know hiro for a supposed con artist and person who just wants to fleece 4chan, you sure are working hard to make sure there aren't any malicious ads
fuck the haters I love you hiro <3
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S M S D O N A T I O N S!
M
S!
Add them... Hiro!
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>>799415
is there anything you can do about the massive spaces in the div's on the homepage for pass users? its really ugly
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I explained why I don't tell numbers.
If I show the numbers, price would get up.
No one would be happy.
Doesn't it make sense?
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>>799423
>div's on the homepage
Where do you mean?
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>>799424
No it doesn't.
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>>799424
I KNOW! YOU ALREADY SAID IT... DON'T IGNORE ME REEE
S M S
M
S
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>>799416
>sure are working hard to make sure there aren't any malicious ads
you may wish to give the laws of 'cause and effect' some further consideration, however, don't let me interrupt your altar gazing - as you were..
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>>799424
..did you reply to the wrong thread hiro-san?
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>>799416
If there is one thing I've learned from /pol/ is that outrageous accusations have to be taken with a grain of salt.
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>>799425
ah never mind, i havn't checked the homepage recently
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Hiro, delete /pol/ pls. They are the main reason for the increased bandwidth cost.
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>>799401
Why is 4chan so slow now?
Can you please fix?
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Yo Hiro delete /a/ they keep shitting up the site with their whining and posting CP
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Hiro, why don't you make a rolling sticky rather than threads 1, 2, 3 and 4? Holy shit ask a mod how, this is just frustrating
Just like your reign over 4chan thus far desu.
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Hiro you're cute
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>>799401
Do you ever talk to moot Hiro?
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Hiro, why is self serve advertising broken?
I want to buy some mobile ads but it's not working.
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>>799448
moot still owns a share of 4chan, he didn't sell 100% desu.
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>>799449
Also, can you let us buy advertising on the front page or the 404 page?
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>>799450
>
forgot to put that in at the start
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>>799450
Anon you're cute
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HIRO... add phone/sms payment methods for passes (and for donations) and stop whining about it:
http://www.junglepay.com/features/
No need to worry about ads anymore, literally everyone can donate from sms, even children.
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>>799425
Hiro, pls notice me!
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DID YOU ALREADY LEAVE?!
Why are you always like this... HIRO.
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>>799449
They refused 4chan to use their service.
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>>799463
I'm here.
Do you have time like 1 hour?
And, could you put tripcode?
I'll answer your questions.
You pick your questions.
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>>799401
I'm being told to buy skin lightening creams. Why don't you remove third party ads altogether? Maybe keep it only on /b/ /pol/ and homepage. I'm sure they won't mind
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>>799467
Why doesn't 4chan accept donations?
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>>799438
Is it slow?
I don't feel it.
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>>799472
https://www.4chan.org/donate
you goofball
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>>799401
copypasting from last thread:
Hiro, you must understand that /qa/ is not a good board for questions and answers. People here are just looking for things to attack, which is mainly you..
Arguing with idiots will never be productive, you won't change their mind, they just want to hate things until they are gone.
Use news and the blotter for announcements like new ads and money problems. Make a feedback thread in boards that are specifically affected by your changes if it's really needed. If you want a good board for feedback regarding ads, use /g/.
Best thing you can do is stay away from /qa/. I love that you communicate with the userbase, but /qa/ doens't represent every 4channer and is a very toxic board.
I am not entirely sure if you are being honest, but the fact is that you own the site and actually listen to people, which opens a door were people can try and shred light on the site's problems. That alone opens so many possibilities for improvement. I wish you could convince the mods to do this too.
Best of luck you crazy jap.
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>>799469
I don't feel it.
maybe your ISP has a problem?
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>>799467
I've all day since it's sunday, I wanted to know if you're aware that SMS/phone payments exist.
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>>799477
Wew, sure it's hot in his ass
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>>799465
how and why did you lose the self serving people
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>>799482
do you honestly think /qa/ can give better advise than a board filled with code monkeys?
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>>799477
Thank you.
I am trying to understand how they think and response.
I realized Arguing with them is not productive.
Some other people give me good advices like you did.
So, I get something from arguing, anyway.
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>>799478
Why don't you just sell the fucking site you stupid gook
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>>799477
why not just tell /g/ to go to /qa/.....
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>>799486
Also, you should use the feedback page for actual feedback.
4chan.org/feedback
And please respond. Nobody sends messages because the feedback page is dead
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>>799492
Post proof of this?
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>>799479
They pasted their rules.
We don't know exactly reasons.
It happened a few days after this.
https://www.rt.com/usa/362617-podesta-twitter-email-hacked/
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>>799484
I think hiro is just acting stupid, 4chan must be a good cashcow
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hiro it may be the time for honorable seppuku. you either die a hiro or live long enough to become moot
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>>799494
oh, that makes some sense then
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>>799453
please ask here.
https://www.4chan.org/advertise
Thanks.
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>>799494
/pol/ dragging this fucking site through the mud once again
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>>799490
Sometimes we respond feedback.
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Just put a donation button on all the pages or do like krita and put a yearly donation
>I don't like taking money from users
You are still milking us from ads you dumb fuck
>But I can't make money directly like that
Guess what a lot of fucking us use ad block, and with this shit you are just driving people away to other sites.
Even if you are not going to do those things at least relocate the fucking ads aligned to the "post" box. I can't fucking stand that blank space.
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>>799501
>09/07/15 12:45
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>>799501
The feedback page is dead, do you respond through email?
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>>799401
Do you have any long term plan for 4chan? Any boards you'd like to add? Any more features, paid or not?
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Hiro, if you are going to fuck over 4chan, which you are gonna, can you delete /pol/ one day before the election?
At least let this ship go down with some fanfares and shit
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>>799492
May I ask a question?
How can I speak perfect English while I have stayed in Arkansas for one year?
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>>799509
The fuck are you doing in the south hiro. do you get called a gook often?
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So /pol/ epic raid is to blame again?
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>>799506
Maybe he could add someone competent to run this site
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>>799511
He went to college but since he stayed only one year his english is still crap.
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>>799506
I don't.
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>>799509
>tfw I live in Arkansas
YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>799509
that's why you can't answer me?
I can translate to japanese (if you want).
Should I?
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>>799510
>in noise
wwwwwwwww
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>>799516
We can see that you little cabbage monkey
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>>799465
You kidding? The advertisers pulled after that?
God, I can't believe the USA elections are affecting the site like this.
You should do somethings bout it. Make a press / ppublic statement, say that /pol/ doesn't represent the site, that the staff is and has always been apolitical. Hell, temporarily freezing /pol/ until this whole disaster blows over will probably do a world of good.
I honestly can't believe Americans would do things like this.
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Ok, when is self serve advertising going back up?
I want to buy some advertising but you guys never responded
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>>799510
I got to do one by one.
Probably, they would give me ideas.
They would be disappointed while I do nothing.
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>>799509
>I'm afraid to say that I can't answer off-topic question.
If I do so, this thread doesn't work by flooding other off-topic questions.
You retard
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When will 4chan run out of money?
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>>799527
two weeks ago
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>>799511
UCA
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RELOCATE ADS
PEOPLE HATE THE BLANK SPACE THE MOST
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>>799518
I don't use Japanese on 4chan.
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>>799521
Your idea makes more enemies.
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>>799532
that's where the advertisers wanted it. not hiro's decision.
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>>799523
we are making our own.
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>>799536
wat
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>>799532
Your suggestion is for adblockers?
You should say get rid of them.
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>>799533
>I don't use Japanese on 4chan.
Why not?
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>>799539
where the ads are right now, I mean
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>>799543
4chan is for English speakers.
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>>799519
are the posts just telling hiro to give up / kill himself / sell the site not noise?
>>799524
Asking for feedback is doing something.
Plus 4channers really appreciate it when you visit the smaller boards. Only thing you need to be careful about is the fact that many people have agendas and particular visions for how the site and their board should be run.
>>799542
He says you should move the ads to the green squares.
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>>799463
I'm still waiting for you.
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>>799545
What about this?
https://www.4chan.org/japanese
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Hey hiro BBC or LWD?
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hi, yes hi
yu lik
spin?
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Is the spooky CSS for tomorrow?
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hiro where is the "Display my name and message publicly"
Add this and people will donate more
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>>799550
I think he's just looking for a cop out desu.
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>>799537
Good, make sure to put advertising on the 404 and main page please. I would email but it takes days for someone to respond.
When do you expect it to come back up?
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>>799516
You clearly had a plan with the ads, is there anything else we can expect in the coming weeks/months?
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>>799550
that page is more than 12 years old
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>>799547
I'll check feedback system later.
I understood he wanted to move the ads to green square.
He used ad-blocker. He mentioned "THE BLANK SPACE"
So I meant that
'Why don't you say "get rid of ads."'
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>>799550
traditional history.
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>>799557
oh, thanks.
4chan has not sms/phone payment methods.
I'm not sure they allow us to use it.
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>>799561
>He used ad-blocker. He mentioned "THE BLANK SPACE"
The ads sometimes don't work which cause blank space. I get blank space on my phone because the new spam ads don't load correctly.
>'Why don't you say "get rid of ads."'
It was a suggestion to move the ad space to a better position, not remove ads
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>>799555
I am thinking such a page.
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>>799465
Surely you could create your own self-serving ad service, Hiro.
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>>799559
while some plans are in process, I'm not sure which one goes when.
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>>799564
did you already try contacting some services?
sms is really easy to use (no registrations/no banks needed).
since it has never been used before, you need to talk with some 4chan developer (I imagine in /j/ is where they talk about this sort of things?).
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Predict when 4chan will close.
June 2017.
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>>799565
Oh, I though he ge blank because of ad-blocker.
ad agency suggest the position,
after while, I'll tell them.
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I think phone only ads are a good idea (as I think some ads are at the moment). Most phoneposters are new users that are disliked in the community. Phone only ads would slow down the growing of the user base, make money for 4chan and wouldn't piss off the main userbase. If this is already being done as I suspected above then good job, I guess.
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>>799562
You know why moot selected you?
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>>799564
Who are (((they)))
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>>799532
>>799542
Is not for adblockers, is for everyone. No one likes the huge ass space at the front pages. Is bothering everyone.
Plus they pay you per click don't they?. Do you really think that people would click intentionally on that shit?. Put them on the side and you will have a few miss-clicks at least.
How about that?
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How long will it take to get self serve advertising up?
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>>799575
OY VEYYY!
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>>799569
I'm not contacting ne payment services.
I made an account on Paypal.
some trouble happens on my paypal account.
But their customer service have not replied yet for a month.
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>>799569
Which phone payment companies do you recommend?
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How do I get free advertising hiro?
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Don't change anything, thanks.
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>>799576
Thank you. I saved your image.
I'll suggest it to ad agency in a month.
They may want to know recent result.
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>>799467
Moot always said he wouldn't bring back /l/ because it would turn off the few advertisers he had and that's why you could only post loli on /b/.
Now that you're using an adservice that doesn't give a shit, will you finally bring back /l/?
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>>799578
not so long, I hope.
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>>799585
There are self promotion threads in the respective boards.
For example, >>>/ic/2704025
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>>799589
Hiro you lying jap rat.
Delet /hr/ and /gif/ if the site is in bandwidth troubles
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>>799588
I don't understand your logic.
no advertiser, no 4chan, no /l/
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>>799401
How do you feel about 4chan's userbase in general?
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>>799590
Ehh, not really. Only exceptions is /ic/ and /mu/ (soundcloud/bandcamp)
I've tried self promoting on /vg/ and /v/ but they tell me to fuck off
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>>799593
are people allowed to advertise anything or is hardcore porn off limits
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>>799593
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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>>799593
Would you dare bring back /l/ if people gave you enough money?
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>>798443
This ad was on /v/, not very sfw
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>>799590
How long though? 1 week? 1 month?
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>>799593
"Good" advertisers didn't want to advertise on a site with /l/, but now you're using adservices that serve malware ads. Obviously they wouldn't give a shit about /l/.
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Sell this Website to Eric Trump. he's betting 200k on it.
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>>799603
sell yourself to me to take your virginity
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>>799595
there are junior dev threads /vg/, from time to time there is "how is your game going?" threads on /v/. From what I remember notch used to promote minecraft on those threads os something like that
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>>799594
Interesting more than I imagined.
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>>799602
if he brings back /l/ make it sfw board no need for porn dump shitfest
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It sucks having to rely on third parties all the time desu.
Can't you just sell the website to someone based like Shkreli?
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>>799597
I don't know.
To know something, a best way is to try.
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>>799599
different domains, maybe.
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>>799612
>maybe
Yes or no?
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>>799606
What did you expect?
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>>799609
>Shkreli
The guy that gave you aids unless you paid 1000 dollars?
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>>799610
You don't know what you can advertise on your own website?
The 4chan advertising team doesn't respond to emails so how are we supposed to know? I also paid $20 to advertise my game but self serve advertising went down and I'm not sure if it got advertised.
Here's a link to the game I was advertising
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1151098647
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>>799610
makeru nani- sasuga Ryuko! totemo watashiwa toyota uragirimono yume!
NYAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>799602
4chan may avoid the ad services that serve malware ads in future.
we have no other options, now.
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>>799616
Your game is fucking shit and you should kill yourself for trying to to advertise it here
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>>799613
Not sure.
We don't know how much it damage yet.
And It costs more.
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Do you like this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44j-sb1SRY
it's about broccolis
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>>799618
Selling 4chan merchandise?
I would buy a t-shirt.
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>>799612
So you're saying you'd put /l/ in the boardlist if it was hosted on a different domain?
Holy shit guys, someone pony up the money to get not4chan.org back up. We can ride again!
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>>799618
How long will this last?
What's the next step in your plan?
You do have a plan right?
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Just to make it clear Hiro when we say loli we only mean 2D.
3DPD is garbage and should not even belong on 4chan in the first place.
Delete /gif/
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>>799615
It's a good business model, you can't deny that.
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What's your favourite anime?
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>>799619
Thanks mate :^)
here's a link to my other game btw
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id1051479566
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>>799616
please send advertise@4chan
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>>799620
I don't understand what you're trying to say, what damage?
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>>799624
I hope it would settle in this year.
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>>799623
start up your own site scrub
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>>799625
Just stop being weird and wank to normal porn like a normal person.
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>>799629
Hiro can you please prove that 4chan is actually in trouble?
show us a figure or something
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>>799632
Are we truly anonymous?
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>>799629
>please send advertise@4chan
I already did, they never responded >>799523
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>>799634
Im not normal.
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>>799630
Advertisers would have gone.
Users would have gone.
Medias would attach 4chan.
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>>799630
I think he means risking losing potential advertisers(which seems a bit odd since he's using scummy adservers right now that don't give a shit, but maybe he thinks 4chan will get back to respectable advertisers in the future) over a loli board, so he's considering hosting it on a different domain.
Which sounds totally okay to me.
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>>799636
No.
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>>799635
look in the mirror
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>>799630
>gee what possible harm could a fucking anonymous loli imageboard do
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>>799642
nice
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Business idea: Allow people to sticky their own threads for a short period of time and for a small fee.
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>>799639
You don't have to put a /l/ board. Just allow loli in a hentai board that already exists. It won't take more server space and if the media gets attached then you can just remove the rule
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>>799645
shit idea
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Hiro is /vip/ working as well as you expected it to?
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>>799635
If you really want to know,
You can count advertisements for income
I told the 4chan size already.
You can assume 4chan cost.
Then please tell me how much income and cost, you assume.
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>>799636
your ISP knows what you do on internet.
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>>799648
lel i completely forgot about that circlejerk board
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>>799645
This is actually a good idea tbqh
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>>799641
How does one identify one's IP/ Identity? Is it possible to find one's location? does proxy IP work?
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>>799639
Hiro, please cut out your fake pigeon english. You're fooling absolutely no one.
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>>799637
Could you do once more and wait for monday, please?
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>>799651
>I'm afraid to say that I can't answer off-topic question. If I do so, this thread doesn't work by flooding other off-topic questions.
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>>799653
Sure.
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>>799640
>he thinks 4chan will get back to respectable advertisers in the future)
yes.
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>>799654
underageb&
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>>799646
This a million times.
Why the fuck are loli not allowed on /e/ and /h/ when they are huge part of hentai and ecchi?
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>>799582
>paypal
Paypal is so bad, you need to keep bugging them for answers.
Try to look for alternatives, it's dangerous to rely on only one service.
>>799584
>Which phone payment companies do you recommend?
There're many services, I believe the costs are almost the same everywhere.
I can give you some names but you will have to contact them individually to know the details.
Boku is one of the most famous services:
http://www.boku.com/
These are less famous but they have similar features:
http://www.junglepay.com/features/
http://www.mobiamo.com/
Anyway, always talk with the 4chan developer team (in >>>/j/) before making decisions about this kind of things. They may know better services, who knows.
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>>799645
I like this. Can you tell the advertising team about this hiro?
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>>799661
is that a software or a tool? google shows some fucked loli videos
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>>799663
Thank you so much!
I'll contact with them
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What features are planned for pass users?
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>>799664
I thought this kind of ads. Thanks
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HIRO
PUT /wwe/ BACK ON /sp/
I have a ton of reasons why
>WWE is NOT an alternative sport
It's on TV, it's discussed on ESPN, the guys who do it are proffesionals...it's a sport
>All sports are scripted
WWE isn't the only scripted sport, if you aren't a retard you would know every sport is scripted, not just WWE, so WWE not being allowed on /sp/ because of "planned" outcomes is retarded
>/wwe/ needs to be contained in a general
Just take a look at /asp/ Hiro, it's a shitfest.../wwe/ needs to be contained in a moderated general in order for it to not a gigantic mess
Those are all my reasons for now, please respond
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>>799669
search engines and archives.
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Why is the captcha seriously bad hiro?
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>>799670
NO. NO. NOOOOOOO!
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>>799672
>search engines
What do you mean?
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>>799673
this
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>>799671
wwe shows what would happen if you let e-celebs in here
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>>799670
YES! It would be awesome to be able to have custom stickied threads for mobile users and for desktop
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>>799675
you can search "boku no pico" on entier 4chan.
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>>799671
yes please, remove WWE from /asp/ put it on /tv/ or something please
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>>799679
If you were forced to delete one board, which one would you choose?
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>>799670
A good thing is that ad block wouldn't be able to distinguish between a normal sticky thread and a sticky thread someone has paid for.
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>>799679
It would be like this?
http://www.4chan.org/?s=boku+no+pico
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>>799670
Please Hiro no and stop listening to retarded shitposter user of 4chan.
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>>799673
YES
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>>799681
>put it on /tv/
Why?
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>>799679
Why does my pass logout by itself everyday?
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>>799680
Relying on ads makes 4chan fragile.
We would not be able to refuse their demands.
To avoid such scenarios, 4chan need membership.
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>>799684
yep.
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>>799686
what happens on CAPTCHA?
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>>799690
Why can't you add stuff what doesn't make a class system of posters?
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>>799689
your IP changes?
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>>799694
datamine
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>>799645
>>799653
>>799664
DO IT
JUST THINK OF ALL THE SHITPOSTING
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>>799690
So what's the point of being anonymous?
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>>799697
No, I'm not that dumb to make that mistake biro
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>>799699
easter threads will take over the board
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>>799675
Probably what is in the archives (search by filename, post number, etc)
>captcha: benis strada
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>>799700
You pay 4chan pass.
You don't need to use it.
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THREAD STICKY
ADVERTISING
NOW!
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HIRO
PUT /wwe/ BACK ON /sp/
I have a ton of reasons why
>WWE is NOT an alternative sport
It's on TV, it's discussed on ESPN, the guys who do it are proffesionals...it's a sport
>All sports are scripted
WWE isn't the only scripted sport, if you aren't a retard you would know every sport is scripted, not just WWE, so WWE not being allowed on /sp/ because of "planned" outcomes is retarded
>/wwe/ needs to be contained in a general
Just take a look at /asp/ Hiro, it's a shitfest.../wwe/ needs to be contained in a moderated general in order for it to not a gigantic mess
Those are all my reasons for now, please respond
STOP IGNORING ME REEE
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>>799706
please no
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>>799706
Kill yourself
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>>799699
>>799702
What a time to be alive
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>>799706
Hope it's not just strictly for advertising.
I would like to make a shitpost and have it stickied for all to see.
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>>799413
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>>799628
How many downloads did that end up getting?
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Question for Hiro:
How was 4chan able to stay afloat for 12 years with moot in charge, and yet with you in charge the website is in dire financial situation after 1 year?
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>>799711
And then have the mods remove it.
Good job wasting that 5$ champ.
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>>799670
What's next, colored text?
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>>799713
I get about 20-50 a day, depends on the day.
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>>799715
The minimum should be $50 and have mods approve it beforehand
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If you do bring back /l/ and put it under a different domain, you could probably host whatever ads you wanted on there and people wouldn't give a shit, if you're concerned about the cost.
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>>799718
and should only be allowed on /vip/
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>>799714
Please see the OP
As I wrote earlier, things has changed. servers cost gets up. And ads gone.
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>>799668
You're welcome.
If you have troubles, talk with the devs or make threads here (or in /g/ too).
Don't try to do everything on your own, some things need to be learned bit by bit.
Slow and steady.
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>>799670
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>>799719
May I ask why you don't do it?
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>>799717
But how many in total? Are you making profit vs what you spent on advertising it?
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>>799724
I don't have the ability to stick a link to it on one of the largest websites on the internet?
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Hiro do you still talk with moot? Does he give advice about such things?
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>>799702
a celebration?
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>>799724
May I ask why YOU don't do it?
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>>799725
How many people in total downloaded the game? I'd say like 20k in total people.
As for profit I get about $20 a week from it. It's not much but if I had more meme-themed games I would make a fuckload more but I'm so busy with college right now.
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A year ago tomorrow, the "t b h", "s m h", and "f a m" filters were added.
Are they even gonna get removed, Hiro? I dream of being able to post my favourite abbreviations again.
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>>799724
A lot of people did it already
8chDOTnetSLASHloliSLASHindex.html
7chan.org/cake/
The problem is that the quantity of people that browse those sites wouldn't compare if 4chinna did it
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>>799733
THIS! It also interferes when posting links on /news/
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>>799722
Thanks.
I applied.
http://www.boku.com/submission-successful/
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>>799736
lel, it fails cause it sucks
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>>799733
NOOOOOO
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>>799729
yes.
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>>799731
I wrote earlier.
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>>799737
its funny tho i was kinda getting sick of seeing it being used
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>>799545
>4chan is for English speakers.
Does that mean you are going to remove /int/?
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>>799732
Oh I thought they'd give you statistics about that. Thanks though, it's interesting to know
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>>799741
Has he told you how much you suck at this
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>>799744
how do you think they navigated through the site autist
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>>799742
Just do it for now then. Put the board up, and leave a sticky that if it gets in the way of advertising you'll take it down. If you're going to have terrible adservices running for now, you might as well let people feel like there's some benefit to it.
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>>799744
A board for it doesn't matter.
Official language is English.
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>>799749
I have to do other things before, though.
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>>799751
Just keep it in mind
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>>799749
lel why? theres no end game to that board.
It'll be another /b/ with loli and spider man and chris hanson shitfest
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>>799733
are you going to respond to this hiro? This filter has been on since moot has been here and it interferes when linking things.
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>>799754
The filters was added after moot left, anon, and we never got an explanation why.
Really wish they would remove them though.
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>>799755
i like them desu
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>>799733
>>799745
>>799754
DON'T LISTEN TO THEM
THEY JUST WANT TO SHITPOST MORE
IF YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT INTERFERES WITH LINKS JUST MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN /NEWS/
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>>799753
The only reason that flies is because it's /b/, and recently some janitor/moderator has taken to cleansing those threads of that stuff, so they've atleast got someone that would want to keep an eye on it.
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>>799733
I forgot to mention 4chan pass voting feature.
probably, it would be one of theme.
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>>799759
Voting for other features than banners you mean?
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>>799670
That's an incredibly idea.
Many users would regularly pay for that.
It would create a consistent revenue stream.
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>>799757
He unfiltered the word cuck because it interfered with linking.
s m h and f a m is something that is often used in news links so it should be removed
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>>799759
any spooky changes for halloweeen?
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>>799759
please keep the abbreviations only mentally retarded autis use them
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>>799763
I bet you any sticky thread will just get bombarded with shitposts if it was a premium service non stop
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Hiro you do know that 4chan is full of trolls and shitposters right? Why are you listening to obvious trolls and shitposters suggestion? These people like
>>799733
Just want to shitpost and.
Please Hiro you need to understand this.
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>>799768
was it dolphin porn or must the word cuck
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>>799772
twas ur mum
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>>799769
>People use it to shitpost
>Legitimate advertisers get raided
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>>799771
Seriously, anon. The abbreviations weren't hurting aught. You're the one shitposting.
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>>799775
Fuck off back to twitter you fucking meme loving fuck nigger.
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>>799751
I've never spoken you so i'm going to finally say hi.
Pls check my triples Admin-sama!
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>>799777
Nice
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>>799776
Hiro, he called me a racial slur outside of /b/ and /pol/.
Do something. ;_;
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>>799748
You don't have to know any English to navigate 4chan, anon.
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>>799751
What led you to believe that these repulsive ads will help the financial costs of 4chan and not just users enabling their adblocker on this site again? Don't get me wrong. Advertisments if done right is okay (just like J-list's and I hate to admit this, also fakku's) but the ads we're seeing right now is fucking AIDS.
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>>799762
You decide something by vote.
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>>799783
can we have the vote for those word filters soon?
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>>799768
it doesn't come yet.
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>>799783
Could a rich person buy like 1000 passes and influence the vote?
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>>799777
Congratulations for your 777.
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>>799784
Most pass users are weebs so good luck getting the filter removed.
/a/ hate your guts.
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>>799672
No one's even giving him shit for this?
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>>799782
for ad, All 4chan can get is this.
We have to admit reality.
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>>799781
stop
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>>799769
>I bet you any sticky thread will just get bombarded with shitposts if it was a premium service non stop
Sounds like a good way to promote revenue. Retards will be paying to do that sort of thing non-stop.
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>>799784
probably.
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>>799786
could.
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>>799790
Because its a useless fucking feature.
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>>799783
Add something like the banners way of voting
BUT PLEASE DON'T ADD UP VOTES
DON'T
ADD
UP
VOTES
KTNXBYE
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It's me or 4chan is considerably slower to load since the new ads has been implemanted?
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>>799741
really?
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>>799785
Are you sure? I sent it.
What's YOUR email hiro?
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>>799793
It's true.
Go away.
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>>799796
Can we vote about filtering the word ''kys''?
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>>799796
Just remove them Hiro and maybe have a vote to readd them sometime in the distant future.
Please.
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>>799798
It's the principal, we're becoming the web equivalent of a free to play game here and noone seems to give a shit
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Hiro, why do you refuse to answer?
Is this meme loving girl who represents [s4s] CUTE?
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>>799802
>>799785
Hey hiro I re sent the email to
[email protected]
This is the new advertising email right?
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>>799808
This thread is full of people who want baka and desu to come back.
I don't think anyone give a fuck about 4chan.
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>>799804
kys
stop filtering things reee
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>>799809
Delet s4s
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>>799814
You need to be 18+ to post here.
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>>799808
>we're becoming the web equivalent of a free to play game here
How so?
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>>799815
rude
[s4s] dindu nuffin they a good board
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>>799787
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
>post number GETs ("dubs")
HIRO WHAT DID YOU JUST DO
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>>799790
we did >>797776
We are trying to unwrap the jews way of the gook so we can use it to our favor
Try it you too if you care so much
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>>799792
Hiro, what I meant was that of all the legit Advertisments (like what I mentioned), why did you choose these stupid, clickbait ones that are similar of a porn website. Do you really think this is going to get impressions?
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>>799802
Oh, this one.
I got ti.
>>
Give us simple formatting options like:
[b]Bold text.[/b]
[i]Italic text.[/i]
It would help us make our posts more aesthetic.
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>>799809
yep.
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>>799811
yes.
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>>799827
ENDORSED BY HIRO
KEKSANDRA IS CUTE
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>>799822
Moot explained, I think in his final Q&A, that typical ad services won't go near 4chan, that's why he relied on J-List.
These shitty ads are probably all Hiro could get.
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>>799822
At first, we have to prove 4chan worth for advertisement.
At this time, maybe sitty ads.
Then ad agencies would realize 4chan ad space make money.
Then they would put other ads.
Some day 4chan would choose ads to show.
>>
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I rather have the site dead to be quite honest with with you.
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>>799834
>Then ad agencies would realize 4chan ad space make money.
>Then they would put other ads.
>Some day 4chan would choose ads to show.
Moot said that the only company willing to advertise was J-list right? If any trustable advertisers wanted to advertise here they would have done in years ago.
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>>799832
If there are more advertisers like JLIST,
4chan doesn't need to put these ads.
4chan has to make another way.
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>>799835
adv team will work for you.
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>>799837
You may be right.
Your assumption is still assumption.
We would like to know the fact.
So I am trying, now.
>>
Hey Hiro, so you are not really planning on shutting down boards? Or is this idea still in the back of your mind?
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>>799847
>We would like to know the fact.
What would it take for you to know that no trustable advertisers want to advertise here "as fact"?
Years of spammy ads until you know it as a fact?
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>>799848
It would be a last resort, I wish.
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>>799849
I don't understand you.
Could you write it simple, please?
>>
Do you think third party archiving sites suck up a significant portion of the bandwidth 4chan uses, or is it a negligible impact?
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>>799861
no
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>>799859
How do you know something is a "fact"?
Moot tried to get advertisers for years and it did not work. Why do you think you will succeed compared to moot?
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>>799861
I don't know.
If they put images directly link to 4chan servers.
4chan pays their cost.
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>>799836
This is honestly a possible reality soon enough
>stickied ads
>pay to have a say
>malware out the ass
>Previously free content locked behind 4chan gold
>plz understand
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Hiro, with serving malicious ads, are you worried at all about 4chan being flagged by Google safebrowsing?
https://developers.google.com/safe-browsing/
Chrome and Firefox use this.
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How much people are there on the advertising team?
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>>799871
!^
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>>799868
The majority of them either just use thumbnails or just wholesale rip them off the site and host them externally.
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>>799859
He means it's useless to wait, because in the end there're no trustable advertisers for 4chan.
Have you ever thought about creating your own advertiser platform Hiro?
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>>799868
Hey hiro one of the biggest /b/ archives does this
https://archive.b-stats.org
What will you do about this? They're wasting your bandwidth!
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>>799884
Stop. Now.
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>>799871
oru shitu
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>>799864
He had not tried ad platform, I guess.
If you put your ad on /b/,
your products images would be shown with bad /b/ pictures.
You always see the situation.
So you would take your ad down.
It was before.
My plan is “Where does a wise man hide a leaf? In the forest."
If we have many ads for 4chan,
you would not see your ad on /b/.
it may be shown.
But you don't see situations at all the time.
So you would not take your ad down.
Do I make myself clear?
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>>799871
That's why you are in this thread.
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>>799884
Why do people bother archiving /b/ of all places?
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>>799876
If you said all of them, no problem.
As you said "The majority", some of them may hurts 4chan.
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>>799871
well if 4chan does get flagged that would do a lot to cut the current traffic rate down, and ergo reduce bandwidth costs
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>>799884
Even if there're 100 archive sites out there, they're really just a drop in the ocean, 4chan traffic is almost 100TB a day in total, which is huge.
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>>799877
I wrote my plan.
What do you mean own advertiser platform?
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>>799890
So your plan is to have so much advertising so seeing your ad would be rare?
Some people don't want to advertise because of the opinions of ALL boards not just /b/
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>>799891
Well, the reason I bring Google Safebrowsing up is because it is known as an 'encompassing' service.
What this means is that if a single part of 4chan is considered a 'bad' web page, then the entire site is blacklisted.
This includes references or redirects to other web-sites. Including hosting banner ads from services which are considered a 'bad' web site.
So even if you manage to find and block all of the malicious advertisements being pushed from your new advertisement partner. If the advertisement partner itself ever becomes 'blacklisted' for serving malware, then 4chan will as well on the basis of linking to that advertisement partner.
Just something I thought you should know about.
>>
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>>799906
What he means by this is
>one page on 4chan gets marked as malicous by google
>all of website is blocked by google + google chrome and firefox
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>>799724
It's a nice idea to just make another board on another chan but, as long as 4chan exists.. it will never get any real traffic.
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>>799909
Thank you
(Get?)
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>>799910
>it will never get any real traffic.
So fucking what?
Traffic is what turned 4chan into complete shit over the years compared to how it used to be.
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>>799902
in advertise market, many clients don't check where their ads are shown.
If you have big budget to advertise your product,
You give the money to an ad agency,
the ad agency pay money to many ad platforms,
Ad agency don't know where the ads are shown.
Do you think you can check every websites where you ad are shown by Google adsense?
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>>799911
a get is still a get.
>>
pay2mod when?
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>>799906
Thank you.
Ad platform should take care of it, before me.
>>
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>>799908
4chan can't gather many advertisers by 4chan name.
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>>799909
Thanks.
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>>799913
That makes sense. The only problem is that sometimes the ads can be malicous by taking in those ads.
Moot didn't take those ads because he believed in the ad banners.
Anyway, how much people are on the advertising team? I want to advertise!
>>
Hiro do you have an email?
Something like [email protected]
Does this work?
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>>799917
>Ad platform should take care of it, before me.
I really hope so, because if it doesn't (Such as, the strange software being downloaded by mobile users), and google sees it, then there may be a problem.
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>>799925
To avoid malicious ad, moot's way is best.
We have not good advertisers any more, though
4chan has to try new way.
not many people on the team.
please contact!
https://www.4chan.org/advertise
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>>799925
>Moot didn't take those ads because he believed in the ad banners
moot was very skilled/lucky at getting J-List to sign on to 4chan and probably give him a special price too. They bailed when moot was no longer around. I think people are really underestimating what he did to keep the site running, and assuming it should be easy for hiro to magically make the same happen. Like hiro says... we have to accept reality here.
Of course it's super typical of /q/-era newtards to blame the admin (and make up conspiracy theories) rather than accepting the simple truth that service providers are assholes who bail at the slightest sign of trouble (illegal content, raiding, even just porn) and jack up their prices.
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>>799938
>We have not good advertisers any more, though
;_;
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>>799935
Yep, that's why I created this thread to prevent the worst case.
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>>799938
>not many people on the team.
Are you recruiting any members for this team? What are the qualifications.
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>>799944
Actually, not many advertiser come to 4chan.
So small numbers has worked.
>>
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>>799469
That's because he switched half the images to cheaper hosting.
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>>799922
>10:00:00 No.799922
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>>799956
I use Australian internet so I haven't noticed a difference.
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>>799950
it's week-end, though..
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>>799401
>That's my plan
Now what's the next step of your masterplan?
And when are we getting >>>/film/ ?
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>>799966
So? This isn't a physical store, it's a online business.
At least put something up that no one will respond on weekends. If you guys end up recruiting people for this team I would gladly sign up.
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>>799968
no payment for the job, actually.
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>>799985
I'd do it for free
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>>799733
tb
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>>799990
oh shit is it unbanned
desu
baka
senpai
>>
>>799990
desu
baka
senpai
>>
If get japs get the 3rd bomb!
>>
Hiro please make a Love Live board after you delete /pol/.
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>>799800
Of course new ads will slow 4chan down. You need to block them.
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>>799999
Impressive
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>>800000
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>>799999
Fucking checked.
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>>799990
[The content of this post has been removed for violating UN hate speech regulations]
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>>799990
what is this sorcery
ó ¦
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>>800022
how do you do it?
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>>800026
tb
>>
>>799990
KEK
senpai
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>>799861
The way third party archives work takes up less bandwidth than a normal user browsing threads. JSON files and direct image links, no excess HTML and no thumbnails or downloading images redundantly.
>>
Why not Patreon? It WOULD work. There is no doubt about it. People like the website and want to keep it alive.
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>>800080
Have a look at what Patreon takes and their conditions:
https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204606125-How-do-you-calculate-fees-
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>>800080
They can donate directly to it and it's not working at all.
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>>800081
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>>800094
If we're doing a donation scheme then Patreon-style is actually better. Instead of a one time and done donation the donations are recurring and build up over time. The biggest problem would be getting a Patreon type site to accept us. Thankfully Stripe has a recurring billing API so we could set up our own.
https://stripe.com/subscriptions
>>
you've let another thread go to shit hiro, well done
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>>800080
Actually Patreon is a good idea.
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>>800109
Fuck off.
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>>799834
>At first, we have to prove 4chan worth for advertisement.
>At this time, maybe sitty ads.
>Then ad agencies would realize 4chan ad space make money.
>Then they would put other ads.
>Some day 4chan would choose ads to show.
By using malicious ads, more users will end up using adblockers, so you will further prove that 4chan is not worth advertising on.
Your actions are bringing about the direct opposite effect.
All shitty ads do is end up making more adblock users, ad agencies would not want to advertise here anymore when everyone is using adblock.
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>>799401
Resumé:
g00km00t:
-Relocate aids to the sides of the posting box, the top ones are driving people away
-Allow donations through phone ( >>799663 )
-MAKE SURE THAT THE ADS DONT HAVE MALWARE, or google will blacklist us.
-If you do paid stickies make sure that are not just for ads, allow users too
-Allow users vote for filters like in the banners but for kys cuck stuff like that
There is nothing wrong with trying to make a profit from your site, but it the way you do it that matters.
ktnxbye, this thread already hit bump limit
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>>800130
You should use ad blockers out of basic practice as ads present a security problem and are unethical.
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>>800112
I don't think donation can cover all 4chan cost.
http://blog.4chan.org/post/152410819927/donate-to-4chan-the-result-for-two-weeks
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Delete /pol/
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>>800151
But it could cover some.
You should have as many income source as possible. Ads, passes, patreon, and direct donations.
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>>800151
you could've gotten so much more if you put effort into it
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>>800116
No ads, no income.
we have to deal with cards on our hand.
I meant ads we can have.
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>>800155
This.
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>>800156
yes, that's why we made a donation page.
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>>800151
Patreon style (automatic monthly recurring) would end up with more in the long run than DONATE OR DIE whenever 4chan needs money.
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>>800130
JList is a special advertiser.
Theis no such an advertiser like Jlist.
And, if their sales on 4chan work great,
They surely continue ad, and other advertises come 4chan and do as JLIST do.
it ain't happened.
We have to accept reality.
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>>800163
Seriously tho, you wanna look more presentable to ad agencies? Maybe delete the primary board by far damaging our image.
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>>800180
Could you tell me why you think so?
How much do you estimate Patreon style sales?
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Don't listen to him hiro, hes a shill
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>>800181
Why don't you ever address the fact you put malware on the archive pages long before J-List even left?
You put the malware on the archive to likely increase revenue, people noticed, hated it and then enabled their adblockers. It's no coincidence that after that, J-List decided to stop advertising here because of too many people using an Ad Blocker.
People whitelisted 4chan prior because they wanted to support the site and the ads were very unobtrusive. After you added malware, people had no reason to put their machine at risk to put up with your bullshit so on turned the adblockers.
It isn't a case of the internet suddenly wising up and using adblockers, we're far, far past the stage of that and 4chan survived through it before without needing to resort to these shady practices
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>>800191
DONATE OR DIE requires attention any time people want to donate, Patreon-style requires attention once and then they have to give attention again to stop it. Users are lazy. Over time as more users set it and forget it it'll build up. Any individual month will net less than one DONATE OR DIE, but you don't have to keep pestering users any time you want your pocket change.
I don't doubt that it wouldn't be much initially, but set it up and it'll build up.
As for an actual estimation? I've no idea. I'd just be pulling numbers out of my ass.
>>800202
I didn't say use Patreon nimrod, I said Patreon style. It's a succinct way to describe the donation style. All Patreon is is a front on top of the Stripe/Paypal API, that's easily set up custom for 4chan. 4chan currently uses Stripe for payment processing, there'd be no more costs than normal donations.
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>>800213
I still agree with the logic here.
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>>800181
>>800209
Pls don't malware the 4chan
or papa google will axe us
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>>800217
That... pic describes /qa/ and this thread perfectly.
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>>800213
i guarantee you 4chan is going to net less than $1000 of earning every month.
danboruu has a patreon and it makes less than $100
patreon itself has a patreon page and it's less $300
websites don't get much on patreon money you have to seek big single donations to keep it up for decades to come.
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>>796452
What about other platforms, such as Android or Windows?
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>>799670
What the fuck are you doing
There will be fucking nothing left besides ads you fucking gook shithead. If you make the entire site ads, then what will be left?
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>>800275
Wasn't even aware either of those had Patreons, hich is probably a contributing factor to why they get so little. I find it interesting that Danbooru actually gets an eighth of what the pony version, Derpibooru, gets. There's also EquestriaDaily which is in the same range ($700-$800) without any visibility. The only examples that come to mind is ponyshit, but they do show the point that with a significantly smaller throughput they can get significant amounts.
A little bit of shilling, like a donation bar slapped on the top of every page, and I think we'd break $1k easily. I doubt we'd ever come close to the actual costs, but if one or two months out of the year can be paid for it's still worth it.
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This shit is seriously making me physically ill
Hiro you realize that you are completely destroying the identity of this website with this "paid account" shit right? Even if you make it financially stable, it will be a complete shell of what it once was. You have ruined this website permanently and it will never be able to return to what it once was. You make me sick, you really do.
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Frankly I don't care what Hiro changes as long as it makes Andy leave, because Andy is fucking annoying and a disgrace to the name Andy.
Hiro, I have faith in you. Free us from this hell known as Andy.
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>>799999
Nice.
Impressive.
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>>799673
That's Google's fault, and always has been. Google use you to train computers to recognise store fronts and street signs, and then they can use your free labour to develop futuristic killing machines when they inevitably attempt to topple the governments of the world.
No website that uses Captcha has any control over what Captcha puzzles are given. However, there are alternatives to Captcha which can also be used (for example, there is an advertising one where you can't post until you have typed, "I love Dr Pepper!" or whatever).
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>>800026
There's an "invisible character" you can encode in the middle of your text, so the software thinks it's a different word.
desu
If that works, then it's Alt+2063. If it doesn't work (I've never tried it before), then sorry for the shitpost.
Hiro, I think the right-hand side of the screen is a great place for advertising, because it's always blank usually and makes the site look a bit empty. I know that clickbait whore cuck websites put advertising there that follows you when you scroll down the page; if that pays more money, you should probably put advertising there.
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>>800209
>It isn't a case of the internet suddenly wising up and using adblockers
It is certainly not, it's an upward trend that eventually caught with us
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>>800191
kys gook
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>>800209
When I took over 4chan, Jlist didn't put their ad on 4chan.
How do you explain?
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>>800675
Can I be a moderator Hiro?
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>>800213
To get attention every month take more cost.
As 4chan donation amount tells, effort may not pay.
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>>800675
That's just not true though. J-list WERE on 4chan whilst you took over and even in the coming months they continued to advertise here. They left only after you put malware in the archive pages, which in turn meant people turned on their adblocker.
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Hiro, what will you do about nsfw ads on sfw boards?
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>>800685
Why are you killing 4chan?
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>>800604
Could you tell me why no good advertisers like Jlist put their ad when I took over 4chan?
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>>800704
You never answered my question
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>>800693
I'm afraid to say that you are wrong.
JList have left because their advertisement has not make good profit.
And you misunderstand the fact.
JLIST already left when I took over 4chan.
Then JLIST came back to me on last October 2015.
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>>800710
What is your unanswered question?
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>>800726
Can I be a moderator?
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>>800733
wait for the time.
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>>800724
>JList have left because their advertisement has not make good profit.
>Then JLIST came back to me on last October 2015.
Why would they come back?
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>>800752
Ask them.
I can write the fact.
I can't write what they really think.
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>>800751
Care to elaborate?
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>>800776
The time when you kill yourself
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>>800770
You run the site Hiro, they don't just shove their ads on when they feel like it, it's a two way agreement between you and them like any deal. Don't play dumb, you can't be completely oblivious to everything J-list do when they've been on and off 4chan for years now. There must be some contact between you two.
Honestly I don't remember J-List being gone when you took over. If that was the case, moot's claim of this site being financially stable would be false, wouldn't it? Since you're essentially saying that without J-List this site is completely in the shitter and can barely function.
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>>800776
Moderator must be heavy 4chan users.
When I say the time to apply.
Newbies can apply at that time.
So, I don't tell the time.
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>>800783
I wrote earlier was "servers cost gets up. And ads gone."
Two things happened at same time.
Not just an ad.
Self service ads didn't work well, either.
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>>800803
How long until site goes 404?
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>>800807
You can't have a 404 page on a site that doesn't exist.
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>>800803
We still don't know these server costs. I don't get why you tried to throw around this figure of 90k when that's not what you're paying?
I know you claim other clients will get angry if you reveal the figure, but honestly why bother throwing around a completely inflated figure that's not at all accurate for this site. Besides, those clients are probably angry enough that you've mentioned you're getting it much cheaper than them anyway.
With regards to J-List. You're saying they left when moot was here because of too many adblockers, then came back in October for reasons you somehow don't know and then left again because of adblockers?
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>>800818
I don't understand your logic.
I thought you understand telling exact numbers is harmful.
Do you really understand it or not?
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>>799501
Bullshit. The last time anyone responded to feedback there was back in 2015.
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>>800852
I assure you I understand.
It doesn't answer why you throw around a figure of 90k which has no real relevance whatsoever to this site.
Do you understand why people have difficulty trusting you Hiro? Why, even as I'm typing this post, I don't even know if you're sincerely trying to respond and make people understand or just chortling away at all the people you're scamming? There's evidence to suggest the latter, you've not got the best history and you know it, and we fast forward here to the present and many agree you're dragging this site down the shitter. 2ch predicted things like this would happen when you took over and is it just a coincidence that it has? People are constantly posting shit against you, while yeah some of it may be exaggerated, a lot is also based on shit that happened.
It doesn't make for a good case. Do you have literally anything to say to help quell some doubts?
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>>800852
hey hiro why are you locking everything behind a paywall
even my captcha is "stop"
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>>800785
But I have a job
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>>800685
To get attention is thirty minutes of CSS to put a donation bar on the main pages, which would cost less in bandwidth than a board banner.
The cost is in effort to spend a little bit setting it up with the Stripe API, which is already used with the donations and 4chan passes so it's just spending an hour or two fucking with the subscription part and then basic testing.
Another way to effectively advertise with 0 cost would be to morph 4chan passes into it, effectively setting it up so that people can donate on top of paying for passes.
It may not pay out, but nothing else you're doing seems to be having any positive effect.
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>>800888
I don't understand your word, "no real relevance" Server cost is calculated by traffic and price per Megabyte.
if formula is right, same formula is applied.
it means "relevance."
You mean the formula is wrong?
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>>800924
sorry, I don't understand.
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>>800938
Do your job, please.
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>>800944
We already know the donation amount for two weeks.
How much you estimate for your donation campaign?
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>>800949
No, but you literally said 4chan doesn't use Amazon Web Services, right? Then why tell us the cost with them? It just seems a meaningless figure.
You're also completely ignoring the latter half of that post, focusing instead on the first two sentences.
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>>800956
you made 4chan gold a reality
on a site where anonymity is king and the beauty lied in everyone being on equal footing regardless of wage, height, weight, gender and race. you're trying to goad people into buying a 4chan pass by restricting content that was open to all before and implementing shitty practices only to serve as a way to sell passes
you're ruining this site
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>>800967
You can learn how to calculate and guess.
You admit formula is correct?
Then, It means.
I read your assumption.
And, what do you want me to do?
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>>800986
I don't think we are not so rich to pay monthly donations.
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>>800990
No, I can't guess anything if you don't provide figures. I mean, I could make a wild guess as to what 4chans server costs are, but there's no way at all of telling if I'm right or way off the mark. If I were to guess it'd honestly be around 20k.
As for what I want you to do, I don't know, I was hoping you'd have an answer for that to sort shit out. People don't believe this site is actually dying and they have reason to.
You can set up donations, malware, push for 4chan passes but if people don't trust you, how is it going to work?
Some of the things I've seen you suggest are completely asinine. Stickied ads? Shutting down archive sites? Needing to pay and have a 4chan pass to have any say over the site? You're driving away the very users that make this place. I can only hope you don't go through with them.
What were you expecting from this place when you bought 4chan?
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>>801022
>No, I can't guess anything
I'm sorry. you have to go to school first.
You must know how to multiples numbers to understand figures.
What I wrote is for adult.
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>>801018
Hiro can you filter "kys" to "kawaii"
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>>801022
What figure do you need? Asking for the cost of operating 4chan is not guessing
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>>801033
Ha, bit uncalled for but I'll take it I guess
Honestly I'm not even sure what you're referring to anymore. I'm referring to the Amazon Web Services figures you posted.
>$0.030 per GB
Is the figure for Amazon Web Services, right? But you don't actually use Amazon Web Services. You use Cloudfare and we don't know how much they charge you outside of some vague claims you've made of server prices going up and receiving a hefty discount.
Also, stop with the habit of ignoring the rest of the post or addressing only one point from it, it's frustrating and you do it quite a bit
>>801042
What's the point of coming up with a figure if it's just a wild guess? I know he says he won't give the cost of operation out, but my point is that giving the Amazon Web Services figure just seems like a load of bollocks since that's not what he's paying anyway and it's probably not even close
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Is hiro still itt?
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>>801046
>but my point is that giving the Amazon Web Services figure just seems like a load of bollocks since that's not what he's paying anyway and it's probably not even close
Your point is tremendously asinine, it could be an upper limit, or maybe we are supposed to take into consideration his past statements regarding the huge discounts we get, so half of that. You keep insisting on having Hiro take you by the hand and walk you through it, no wonder he doesn't think you are an adult, yuo don't behave like one. If you can't figure it out or feel uncomfortable making a guess, simply don't, don't keep questioning him about the same thing over an over like an autist. If 4chan is to survive it won't be thanks to people like you, or people who trust Hiro, it'd thanks to whatever strategy makes us enough money, not from charity, but from ads and other stuff.
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>>801064
>You keep insisting on having Hiro take you by the hand and walk you through it
No, stop talking out your ass. I did no such thing, and even you yourself admit it doesn't really provide any clarity as to what 4chans server costs are.
But honestly all of this is futile, my main point wasn't about the server costs, it was literally two sentences I included that Hiro then picked out and the discussion flowed from there. I've not even heckled at him to actually reveal the server cost either.
The point about 4chan surviving is moot if we're not actually in any danger
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>>801046
>shows monthly figure of 10s of thousands of dollars per month
>"4chan doesn't use AWS but you can estimate with this"
>donation for two weeks is $2k, ads pay peanuts
And yet
>hiro is lying 4chan can easily break even I'm a fucking twelve year old who doesn't understand math
Kill yourself
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>>801051
no you drove him away
nice going anonymous
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>>801046
If I wrote chinese network fee or price of pizza,
It's no relevant to Cloudflare.
I wrote the company, which is the most popular one in server business and US based.
I understand you hate amazon.
Which company gives you content? microsoft azure?
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>>801097
Hiro, seriously server costs was never my main point. It's a useless discussion at this point.
"
As for what I want you to do, I don't know, I was hoping you'd have an answer for that to sort shit out. People don't believe this site is actually dying and they have reason to.
You can set up donations, malware, push for 4chan passes but if people don't trust you, how is it going to work?
Some of the things I've seen you suggest are completely asinine. Stickied ads? Shutting down archive sites? Needing to pay and have a 4chan pass to have any say over the site? You're driving away the very users that make this place. I can only hope you don't go through with them.
What were you expecting from this place when you bought 4chan?"
That's what I really wanted a response to
>>801087
Stop putting words in my mouth ffs, it doesn't make you look any smarter
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>>801084
You keep pestering him for a formula and all of its variables, that's not guessing. What 4chan server costs are has never been clear to begin with, moot said the same exact thing Hiro does regarding our deal.
If you don't believe we are in danger then why the fuck are you questioning Hiro if you don't believe him from the start. It's obvious you already made you mind about this, or have a strong idea of how should we be doing financially. You are wasting everyone's time by having Hiro trying to disprove your own guesses and assumptions about him and 4chan
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>>801115
>You keep pestering him for a formula and all of its variables
I'm not. If it seems like I am, I honestly don't intend to. People have asked him time and time again and he's not going to reveal them, it's useless to continue to do so. Maybe the fault is on my end for replying about those comments which honestly were never my main point to begin with.
As for the rest, that's just how it works, isn't it? Any time Hiro shows up everyone throws questions his way, whether they trust him have shitposted to death about a gook destroying the site. I suppose it's out of hope.
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>>801111
>server costs was never my main point.
I'm actually having fun to talk with you.
I assumed you wee teenager.
You wrote about server fee. and I answered.
But you said it's not your point.
Now, you look like drunken.
I read your opinions.
But it's not question so that I don't know what I should answer.
Could you write one question you want me to answer?
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>>800704
I can't but I can tell you that if no good advertisers like Jlist put their ad when you took over 4chan, they will even more NOT put their ad AFTER you added malware ads forcing all users to use adblock.
This is the point I'm trying to say, please understand.
You make situation even worse with malware ads.
In broken english to help you understand better
>no good advertiser come 4chan
>malware ads added
>more user use adblock
>even less advertiser want to come 4chan
Can you understand this better?
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>>801137
The last part. The question.
>What did you expect from this place when you bought 4chan
I said it's not my main point. It was a point I had, i'm not denying I brought it up but itt was just never my main point ffs was I really this unclear in my posts
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By the way, Microsoft Azure is more expensive than AWS.
$0.05 per GB
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/bandwidth/
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>>801130
>As for the rest, that's just how it works, isn't it?
No, not with moot. He would have either shitposted back or started pointing out how many bans do the people making angry demands have and what were they banned for. Hiro is new and unfortunately he is yet to learn to ignore certain kinds of posters instead of assuming everyone has good intentions.
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>>801141
I understand your assumption.
You need to show us a fact.
No good advertiser has come 4chan before me and after me.
Only one exception is JLIST
JLIST put their ads after I put ads.
It proves your assumption is wrong.
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>>801142
He already answered that (or nearly identical questions), stop asking the same things over and over and lurk more
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>>801142
>>What did you expect from this place when you bought 4chan
Fun, which I have now.
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>>801153
The response from the user side is the same though. All piling on to ask questions or say something, moot did respond differently and yeah, he didn understand it better, but moot also didn't shove malware on 4chan
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>>801162
Really? All you thought when buying the site off moot is that it'd be a bit of banter? You don't care about the state it's in, or where it could end up?
I recall you mentioning that you see this as fun because of what you're learning and shit, but really where's the enjoyment in users hating your every move and the site struggling to pay its fees
Well actually, I suppose in the real world yourlife is fine so that's probably it
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>>801159
>I understand your assumption.
Is not assumption, is common sense.
You say no advertiser come 4chan because user use adblock.
If more malware ads = more user adblock
less advertiser will come because more user use adblock.
>JLIST put their ads after I put ads.
Didn't you say Jlist left? Now no more jlist right?
Now jlist gone because more user use adblock yes?
That further means malware ads = more user adblock = jlist less want to come back
I want to believe you hiro, but everything is working backwards.
How to attract more advertiser to come 4chan when userbase is forced to use adblock?
I do not understand your logic, please explain it to us.
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>>801162
Hiro, this thread stopped bumping long ago (bump limit is 300 replies for /qa/), you should either create a new thread or sticky this one, you are answering to the same posters.
Protip: if you don't expect to come back to a thread you started as an admin, you should lock it
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>>801162
>Fun, which I have now.
>fun trolling the userbase with instrusive malicious ads
>watching them all suffer under these ads
This is not good answer hiro. It is very scary, like you want to kill 4chan for good.
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>>801170
I knew 4chan admin was difficult.
If I like to take a easy job, I would choose Japanese business.
It's much more easier than 4chan.
I know most of IT laws in Japan and how to things works there .
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>>801175
>Is not assumption, is common sense.
Common sense is a subset of assumptions
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>>801194
Didn't you get chased out of japan with debt and lost 50 law suits?
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>>801175
>Is not assumption, is common sense.
I am afraid to say it's just your opinion.
You should use "I" not "we."
If you are delegate by other users.
Please prove it.
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>>801177
oh, I didn't notice, Thanks!
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>>801201
Ok then please explain to me how we will get more advertisers to come to 4chan when,
>ad block bad for advertiser
>more user using adblock because malware ads
>advertiser don't want to come because no click because of adblock
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>>801202
He stopped going to Japanese courts, resulting in fines pilling up.
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>>801202
if so, Why I am on Japanese TV every month?
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>>801203
>delegate
Hiro, where are the delegates?
Bring me the delegates.
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>>801203
>You should use "I" not "we."
But I never say "we"? I only used "I". Did you even read my post hiro?
Please explain how advertiser come to 4chan when
malicious ad = morre ad block user
more adblock user = less advertiser click
less advertiser click = bad for advertiser
How to attract advertiser hiro? I want to believe you, but you must explain your logic.
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>>801207
Ad blockers are everywhere on internet.
it's not a 4chan only problem.
Advertisers don't care how much people use ad blockers.
They care impressions.
As long as impressions are enough, ad works.
for small sites, ad block is a big problem.
Because impressions is getting smaller.
4chan has huge impressions.
with ad blockers, still big enough impressions.
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>>801210
What is your opinion on swaglord/jay/invisbro
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>>801224
>4chan has huge impressions.
>with ad blockers, still big enough impressions.
Then why jlist left?
I thought they left because too many ad blockers?
If 4chan still big enough impressions, why no advertiser want to come?
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>>801210
You are?
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>>801231
They left because users didn't buy jlist staff enough.
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>>801231
I wrote earlier.
*******
He had not tried ad platform, I guess.
If you put your ad on /b/,
your products images would be shown with bad /b/ pictures.
You always see the situation.
So you would take your ad down.
It was before.
My plan is “Where does a wise man hide a leaf? In the forest."
If we have many ads for 4chan,
you would not see your ad on /b/.
it may be shown.
But you don't see situations at all the time.
So you would not take your ad down.
Do I make myself clear?
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>>801237
>They left because users didn't buy jlist staff enough.
I thought click on jlist ad = money from jlist advertiser already? That's how it work right?
>>801239
So basically your plan is spam the site with alot of ads?
Wouldn't that create competition between many advertiser and less advertiser want to come?
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>>801247
JLIST paid fixed rate.
If you want to know my strategy,
You may read some replies I wrote already.
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>>801207
see
>>801224
>Ad blockers are everywhere on internet.
>it's not a 4chan only problem.
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>>801251
I hope you will come up with new and better plan because malware ad = very bad for users.
I am sure many user would prefer you to cut down boards than to have instrusive and malicious ads on the website.
Please don't chase away the users of this site.
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>>801259
IMO. to cut down boards is worse.
Some people like their boards, while you hate them.
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>>799401
I like how you collected all your sounbites into one single post. I look forward to you using them in this thread
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>>801267
I don't hate boards, please don't put words in my mouth. I just don't like instrusive and malicious ads.
I am sure many users are same as me too.
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>>801283
I doubt most users care, remember only 10% of people viewing 4chan post in it, a fraction of that 10% is aware something has changed, a fraction of a fraction knows about Hiro and /qa/, and a fraction of a fraction of a fraction cares enough to voice their complaints.
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>>801290
Yea but every user will see ads, even those who don't post obviously. And it will evantually bring them to install ad blockers or leave the site entirely depending on how long they can take it.
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>>801301
Users are more likely to notice that the board they visit is gone than the ads, that's Hiro's point
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>>801306
You really think people won't notice those huge ass ads on the home page and on each and every board AND thread?
I mean yea comparing it with a board missing entirely, but that kind of reasoning is just trying to skewer the perception that it isn't so bad, but it is.
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>>801319
Just gonna chime in that I would not notice at all if /pol/ were deleted.
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>>801319
No if they are casual or new users, people completely forgot we once ran ads and angrily protested when moot brought them back, it's just a matter of time before people can't remember a 4chan that didn't run intrusive ads. You greatly overestimate our collective memory.
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>>801267
Any plans to allow different file formats on any board? (.mp4, .webp, etc.)
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>>799670
Do not do this, all users are equal. Stop adding dumb shit that defy this site. You are literally going to be the death of this place
>>799690
>To avoid such scenarios, 4chan need membership.
No, WE FUCKING DONT. STOP THAT. IF WE CANT SURVIVE WITHOUT YOUR ""MEMBERSHIP"" STUFF THEN TRY SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN IT. IT ISNT GOING TO HELP, YOU ARE GOING TO FRACTURE AND DESTROY THIS SITE AND ITS COMMUNITY. THE SITE IS BETTER OFF DEAD WITHOUT THESE FEATURES.
JUST DELETE FUCKING BOARDS AND THROW THE WEBSITE BACK TO IT ROOTS. YOU WILL KILL THIS SITE AND COMMUNITY. THIS ISNT AN OPINION, THIS IS A
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A
C
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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO EVERY FUCKING FORUM THAT DOES THIS SITE. WE ARE NOT 2CH, WE ARENT THE SAME, STOP TREATING US LIKE THEM.
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>>801354
>FRACTURE AND DESTROY THIS SITE AND ITS COMMUNITY
In my opinion, it's almost too late to avoid that. And not just because of Hiro.
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>>801361
Maybe, but why add further fuel to the fire? Can't give up hope altogether.
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>>799783
4chan users are meant to be equal, stop this.
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>>801365
He won't.
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>>800966
If you could transform 6000 dollars one-time to 2000 dollars recurring, it would greatly improve 4chan's bottom line.
With donations, people get excited, maybe donate some money, and then stop thinking about it and don't donate anymore. Subscriptions help solve that problem. Stripe, 4chan's payment processor, already has built-in support for subscriptions.
>>801239
While /b/ is one of the most popular boards and serves many impressions, I don't think people will be convinced by that logic. If you want to recruit "good advertisers," maybe you should make it clear that they advertisers could choose to make sure their ads won't run on "unpleasant" boards like /b/, /pol/, or the porn boards.
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>>801267
Hey hiro remove flags on /pol/. Don't you know it costs money per flag request for MaxMind?
You'll save money and make that board better.
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I respect Hiroyuki for dealing with you people. I can't imagine what it's like going through this on a daily basis. A bunch of immature children that can't even behave to better the website they rely on for the only social interaction they have. Maybe that's why it's difficult. None of you know how to behave socially.
There's 203,653 current users on this website. That's a lot. You don't know what they all want nor do you speak for them. You act like you know the solution, but you don't know anything about anything.
For me personally I think being able to purchase passes for a month at a time would be better. I know I'd purchase one if that was the case. "Passes cost $20 per year, which is about $1.67 per month" I think a lot more people would be comfortable paying $1.67 per month or even trying it out for a month than paying $20 upfront. I don't know how many people will go for it, but I think you'd get an influx regardless. Maybe they'll even stick around if they like the features.
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>>801334
I think it's looking great.
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>>801363
It's easy to lose hope when you see the same exact destructive patterns happen time and time again.
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>>801417
Hiro deserves no respect for anything he's done. He hasn't done anything but create problems. Stop shitposting. Anons haven't been acting like immature children, HE HAS. He has done nothing since day one but create problems and showed no effort to connect with the userbase or create some form of trust. Yes, trust, this is very important. There is no trust here. He doesn't deserve it anymore. He has done everything in his power to break any fucking possibility of us having any trust in him. He showed with the yotsuba shit that he doesn't care about us at all. He cares more about what he wants and that we should just suck it up. This ad shit has been nothing but him being evasive about everything and him trying to suck as much money as possible.
Don't call me a child when Hiro has done everything in his power to not communicate with us or connect. He's been nothing but evasive to all questions to the point of actually ignoring everything that was said and shitposted instead. All the problems in these threads stem from Hiro, don't blame the users for Hiro's incompetency. The only foolish people being deceived here are people who believe hiro. He's done *nothing* to show that he is telling the truth in any form but say trust me and those saying otherwise are lying.
The pass features are the most retarded. They should have never been more than the captcha shit. Anyone with any experience with forums should know that they are cancer to the site. Not just do they shit on everything this site has been built on, they will destroy its community. The users here are all *equal* and this stuff shits all over that and that solely will destroy the site even when you ignore all the other shit paid features cause. We were made to get away from Something awful and now thanks to hiro we are becoming something awful. How fucking ironic.
Please off yourself and stop dick sucking and feeding Hiro's "its not me its them" ego.
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>>801461
>showed no effort to connect with the userbase or create some form of trust
Every single post he makes in /qa/ is an attempt to connect with the userbase or create some form of trust. He's just exceptionally bad at it.
>He showed with the yotsuba shit that he doesn't care about us at all.
hiro didn't know why 4chan cared so much about pictures of some manga character that were present on the 404 page since time immemorial, as he fucked with the front page before and nobody cared. It was explained to him that 4chan had hijacked the character and turned her into 4chan heritage, and he put the image back.
>The only foolish people being deceived here are people who believe hiro.
/qa/ is full of incredible fucking retards who say astronomically stupid things about everything from image hotlinking to the price of hosting and take the word of anonymous shitters online at face value. How many times did you hear that all 2.whatever PB of bandwidth we push through Cloudflare costs $0.00 in the last few days?
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>>801461
Calm down idiot.
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People are getting porn redirects hiro you cunt
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>>799587
Is the advertisement agency themselves editing the CSS tables for you? I thought you had a web developer on staff.
At least, the last time we saw 4chan's developer, he posted with the code "## Developer".
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>>801137
Hiro how can you be having fun when it's your lack of understanding of English that's actually quite a barrier? It's wrong for you to assume shit when you don't really know what people are talking about
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>>799890
this is like a troll physics comic
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>>801477
Two porn redirects here
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>>801461
>Anons haven't been acting like immature children, HE HAS.
Both sides are at fault.
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>>799890
I don't really understand what you're saying, but it sounds like moderation needs to be more consistently strict for people to want to advertise on boards that aren't like /b/. Everyone outside of 4chan already knows that EVERY board is full of garbage, so most of them don't want to advertise anywhere on the website. That's what happens when such an awful reputation is built up over a decade.
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>>800693
J-List's deal with 4chan has always been off and on. They advertise here for maybe nine months per year. They have left many times before, and they always came back.
Of course, this also means that moot managed to run 4chan with even less advertising revenue than you are assuming, so that was good of him.
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>>801461
You can please some of the people some of the time. He has to make his best judgement. That's what a leader does. Some people will hate it, but others will love it. His site anyways. He can do whatever he wants.
He's communicating with us more than Moot has. Yes, I know it's lowercase. He's answering the questions directly. Moot wanted to sell the website for a reason. If the founder who grew up with this website decided to sell it then you know there's something going on. Hiroyuki is doing the best he can to turn it around. He's not deceiving anyone. He saved this website by purchasing it. He's still probably the highest "donator" in that respect. If he can afford the website, he can afford to start a regular business. He clearly does this because he cares. If he was after profit, I guarantee you there are MUCH better alternatives. You can even purchase a website that allows Google's advertisements and make MUCH more than you are now.
Pass features aren't retarded. They're paying customers. They deserve all the features they want you entitled leech. Free customers are still important due to this being a social platform and you don't want it to just be a /vip/ circlejerk. Gets lonely without "new" people. This is why free customers get advertisements shoved in their faces. This website allows you to use it for free. They deserve something in return. These things have costs.
If you aren't paying for a product, you are the product. If you hate Hiroyuki then you'd really hate me if I was the owner. I'll fix you motherfuckers real quick. You have to respect the culture, but you need to find a way to make the users pay. That way you're not at the mercy of advertisers and you don't corrupt the website. Then again, I could be wrong. I don't have the behind the scene statistics so I can't be sure. Oh well...
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>>801480
And him being bad at it is the problem. He's receiving the exact same amount of flak moot received it is just directed to a certain direction. Can we trust you and do you actually care He's done nothing but destroy those two points. He's been overly evasive on everything said since day one, he's done nothing to actually connect to the userbase and only given empty words. He comes and then fucks off after breaking something and then never does anything to fix it or check up on it. He hasn't shown any attempt to connect. If he was trying to connect he wouldn't do stupid shit, refuse to communicate to the userbase, just fuck off and make odd decisions without prior consult of the userbase. Any attempt to communicate with him by the userbase is normally shutdown, ignored, shitposting by *him*, given dumb vague replies that mean nothing, given dumb replies like "no we only i" and proceeds to ignore everything that was said or his most annoying done to basically everything is to ask for a 100% impossible userbase consensus or ask for fucking proof for shit and even if you provide it, he either fucks off again or ignores you and does dumb shit like saying hi to people. I know what hiro has been doing, excluding that initial q&a, at least 5 - 10% of his fucking replies between /qa/ and /a/ have been just to *me*. Most of my posts have been needlessly long as well.
The yotsuba shit was hiro trying to replace it with a ad telling the users to suck it up. People explain it in a way even he could understand and he was still 'it dont make all that matters is you dont forget' and he made some dumb mickey mouse comparison.
I am more inclined to believe an anon who tries to at least back up the dumb shit he is saying than trust "text isn't evidence" just trust me hiro.
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>>801210
Can you show us a link? It would be fun to see it. You can show us on YouTube...or NicoNicoDouga :^)
>>801215
Because, dude, you are not every poster here. I haven't started adblocking this site; I just don't click the obvious viruses and everything works fine. And nobody whitelists anything when the browsing experience is better without advertising. You're like one of those people who will illegally download an album, and then promise to buy it if you like it. I know people like that; they never buy anything.
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>>801521
You can't blame a group of people who have done nothing but attempt to communicate with someone when that someone has done nothing but refuse to communicate.
>>801543
Go fuck yourself. I'm not even going to bother replying to anything but that pass comment because it pisses me off. This isn't a business, this is a community. Let me repeat this, THIS
IS
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COMMUNITY
NOT
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BUSINESS
So no, I'm not a leech. Paid features in the community are nothing but cancer waiting to kill it. YOU and people like YOU are the cause of the deaths of good communities over the years. ALL 4CHAN USERS ARE *EQUAL*, this is an absolute that we have been founded. You DO NOT deserve any special treatment for giving money over.
Go fuck yourself and go back to Something Awful.
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>>801417
I respect Hiro too. Seeing all these butthurt autists really makes him look better by comparison.
Everything else you said in that post is moronic.
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>>801560
It frightens me to imagine how you speak to customer service people when you phone them up because your Internet's gone down.
Also, this absolutely is a business. Businesses fail without money, and 4chan will fail without money. People keep explaining to you (maybe to others too, but you come across as so utterly unhinged that I wouldn't be surprised if every screaming-idiot post came from you) that without money, there will not be a community any more, and all you can do is say, "N-no!" over and over again.
AND
LOOK
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LOOK
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It doesn't suddenly become convincing, does it?
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>>801560
But I will blame a group of people who act just as foolish as the people they are complaining about.
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>>801575
I call them up and abuse them because I live in Australia and if you don't the dumb Indians on the phone will sit their looking stupid trying to figure what to do and then proceed to say yes we fix you wait 1 week and internet will work please wait and then its one month later, you are still paying your bills and you have no internet because they did nothing and then you have to call them back up to get them to send a tech which you will have to pay for. As opposed to abusing them and then they send a tech down the very next day and he fixes the problem for free, a problem that was actually their fault.
And no, this isn't a business, it is a community. A business is an for-profit entity, this is not a for-profit entity. The website doesn't exist to make money, it exist to be a place for a community to interact. Any money this website makes is for it to stay afloat. The users are are *equal*, no user is meant to gain any form of extra privileges unless you are a janny or mod. It doesn't fucking matter if the site dies without money, it won't change the fact this isn't a business. The website is much better off dying then adding features that shit all over the community and break the equal part. This is something you don't do. You can sit there wanking hiro and how you are an elitist superior pass user, but it won't change what is a fact and meant to be. I am equal to you and anything that breaks that shouldn't be added. Every forum over the years that has listened to you over the years has either dead or grew to have a fucking dogshit garbage elitist community that is worse to use than our current /b/.
4chan is much better off being deleted or deleting boards than adding fucking paid features. At least with the sites death it will allow all the other smaller chans to have a chance to flourish. And no, that doesn't mean 8gag.
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>>801560
It's a business. Doesn't mean it's not a community. It has to make money. It can't magically survive on memes. However, we have to do it where it's mutual. That's beneficial to 4chan, too. Profit manifests itself in more ways than just money. Morale is valuable too. They do the right thing. We support them. Everyone is happy. Maybe 4chan can even turn a profit, which they deserve.
There have to be compromises. If you're not a paying customer you will see advertisements. The consequence of a website like this is that Google wants no part in it. Which is why the advertisements "suck". I think it's a fair exchange for what you get. What do you expect them to do? Just give it away for free?
This reminds me of this:
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2011/12/why-i-shut-down-the-forums/
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>>801598
>dogshit garbage elitist community
To be fair, 4chan is already all of that except elitist.
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Hiroooo
Ads are being displayed in NSFW boards!!
At the bottom of the page!!
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>>801543
>Pass features aren't retarded. They're paying customers. They deserve all the features they want you entitled leech. Free customers are still important due to this being a social platform and you don't want it to just be a /vip/ circlejerk. Gets lonely without "new" people. This is why free customers get advertisements shoved in their faces. This website allows you to use it for free. They deserve something in return. These things have costs.
If you have a gun, put a bullet in it, load it, put the barrel in your mouth, pull back the trigger, and die.
You need to get the fuck off of here. You're nothing but a newfag parasite who knows NOTHING about 4chan
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>mfw scroling up the thread
Did I stumble into the star wars intro or what
Hiro Is probably asleep right now
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>>801620
No it's not.
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>>801137
>Now, you look like drunken.
Sick burn dude.
Hope you bring back self-serve. I loved the self-serve 4chan Ads that were on the site, but I think you should fall back on merchants like J-List who pay you commission for sales. The advertisements were very much tame, and even though they didn't sell much, advertisements weren't pissing people off left and right, with accusations of them being malicious.
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>>801690
It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.
Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy....
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HIRO
WHERE IS THE HALLOWEEN THEME
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How to make 4chan break even and not piss off everyone
- Allow 3 sponsored thread slots per board
Sponsored threads appear at the top of the catalog and cannot be bumped off page ten until the time period purchased expires. Do not make them stickies.
- Make 1 VIP threads per board
VIP threads also appear at the top of the catalog and cannot be bumped off page ten. You make it so this VIP thread is the only meta thread allowed on the board and it's where you can link to VIP only polls.
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>>801195
niga it used to be like that
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