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ad reporting thread 3

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If you find malicious ad, please report it.

- URL where you see the ad on 4chan.
- screen capture on 4chan (if available)
- destination URL (if available)

Thank you for your support!
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>>792663
>starting the shitposting all over again
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report this
*unzips my big w*iner*
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kill yourself you fucking gook
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>>792663
Fuck you, slit eyed cunt.

I'm not reporting anything.
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How about you prove that 4chan is lacking money? Its not like this is a business where you should hide your numbers.
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>>788606
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please use this thread responsibly
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>>792676
>>792680
>>792682
Please stop bullying hiro!
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>>792692
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrasuructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>792663
what's the deal with these ads on SFW boards. Are there your doing or has the site been compromised with malicious adware?
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>>792709
You mean half?
>>789631
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>>792663
Stop ruining this website you selfish shitstain
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>>792663

Hey hiro, the primary reason that moot used to cite for not bringing back /l/(the loli board) was that it would turn off the few potential advertisers he had. Now that we're full on malware ads where the adserver has no reason to give a shit, can /l/ finally be brought back?

You could even go really old moot style and open the board with "Absolutely 2d loli only. If you guys post anything but drawings, I kill the board. You've been warned."

It'd at least give people a reason to feel the like the ads are a necessary evil.
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>>792709
I have a good question. What happens if I link all of those posts hiro made to every single person who uses the 4chans host provider?
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>>792719
STOP BULLYING HIRO!
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If you want to gain money from advertisers do your research properly and responsibly.

I will no longer white list 4chan, and many others will stop doing it too or install adblockers.

You will get less money out of this than before. Nice move.
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>haha hey guys didn't bother vetting my advertisers at all BTW you can't buy ads anymore let me no if u get sum virus k john boy?? :^)
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>>792709
No it doesn't. This is just an excuse to pretend that he can't show the numbers.
We could easily find 4chan's host and let anyone who uses said host know via twitter et. al with links to archived quotes from Hiro and make them mad if it weren't bullshit.
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SELL
THE
SITE
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I exclusively browse with my phone without ad bloc

I only got malicious ads twice and all I did was hit back twice very fast, they're very easy to get out of

They seem to be gone now and I don't really mind the ads top or bottom

Hiro literally dindu nuffin wronk
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>>792663
NUKE THE GOOK
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>inb4 everyone hates hiro for no reason
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>>792789
>not hating jews
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>>792789
>for no reason
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1. Hiroyuki claims 4chan is going under, even though Moot described it as financially stable just a year ago.
2. Hiroyuki monetizes the site through ads, passes and donations to an extent which has never been seen before.
3. Hiroyuki categorically refuses to disclose 4chan's actual server costs.
4. Hiroyuki refuses to sell the site, despite having received multimillion dollar offers.
5. Hiroyuki already pulled this exact scheme in Japan and even SOLD the credit card information of Pass buyers to criminals.

This is going nowhere. If I remember correctly, making threads ended up to be a pass-only feature on 2chan, which is exactly where we're headed. Our "leader" is a con artist who wants to cash out on 4chan and its users.
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>>792663
Is it really worth it? Are you making more from these ads than you're losing from decreased traffic?
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>>792916
Don't forget

>Most of 4chan's content is served through cloudflare's free CDN
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>>792916
Pretty sure moot took donations aaaages ago for a short time. But this shit is just shady af
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Guys, this thread is for reporting malicious ads.
Please try to stay on topic.
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>>792936
Where's the thread for reporting a malicious owner?
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>>792920
Traffic doesn't matter. What matters is revenue from user - cost of user. If that's positive then more traffic will increase revenue. If it's negative more traffic will only increase the red.

>>792938
Is there anything you're going to say that hasn't been said on /qa/ a hundred times before?
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>>792936
Shill.
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>>792938
You should make one if you want a thread for discussing that.
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>>792953
ur not my mom
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>>792945
Fair enough. I still think malicious ads are a bad idea in the long term, though.
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>>792726

And also in bad japanese 以前はmootが「ロリコン絵の掲示板/l/を戻したら、誰もadを買わないだから」とよく言いました。 4chanは今からどうでもいいやという怪しげなadserviceを使うから、もしかしてロリコン絵の掲示板/l/を戻せますか?

plz respond
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Hiro is you want people to stay on topic you should really top beginning these threads yourself, people just see that as an excuse to treat them like a suggestion box.
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>>793025
Me too!
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>>792663
Thanks hiro.
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SURPRISE: It's all malware.

How the fuck do you scare off J-List, anyway?
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Remove those auto scroll bar ads at the bottom of your screen on mobile like what the fuck dude that shit is annoying as fuck having to click out of it's so easy to accidentally click on it and half of it probably is loaded with malware

I literally turned on adblock because of them just now, if you need money make a visible donation button already the intrusive ads are only driving people away and turning on more adblocks
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>>793567
People turned their adblock on once the malware arrived. JList pulled their ads because of all the adblock (which was caused by the malware).
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Don't threads like these generate more traffic and thus more expenses?
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YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR.

YOU HAVE SEVERELY UNDERESTIMATED THIS COMMUNITY IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT AGAIN. JUST FUCKING TRY IT. /b/ AND /pol/ ALONE WILL TEAR YOU TO PIECES. YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

DO NOT GIVE THIS FUCKING LIAR A SINGLE CENT UNTIL HE RELEASES THE SERVER COSTS AND PROVIDES UNEQUIVOCAL PROOF THAT THEY ARE LEGITIMATE.

WE WILL NOT BE SOFT-BALLED AND LONG-CONNED INTO ACCEPTING YOUR HORSESHIT.
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>>792663
Hiro, do us a favor and give the site to someone else.

You're a fucking terrible administrator.

Sorry, it has to be said.
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So what's your favorite color?
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>>792709
So he's getting a significant discount on his servers, and yet there are money problems.

Fuck this shyster. Don't give him a fucking thing.
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>>793709
>haw haw haw I'm a funny contrarian because I disagree with opinions simply because I want to be whacky and RANDOM and stand out XDDDD
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>>793606
>j-list is gone
Really? Jesus fucking christ this place is going down the shitter, I always kept ad block off just because of how much I liked the site but if this is what I'm gonna see everytime I come in I'm keeping it on forever
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As moot said, the site isn't profitable, but it's sustainable.

The problem being that gookmoot wants it profitable and that he himself may shut it down - and blame it on us - if it doesn't become profitable
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>>793721
If that happens, then a lot of people will be very happy.

I don't think Hiro understands that a lot of the most ardent 4chan frequenters only come here because they have nowhere else to go. Once 4chan dies, more imageboards with smaller communities (and ideally better quality posts) will take its place.

I'd rather see this place die than have it fall to adware bullshit and increasingly restrictive pass-only feature implementation.
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>>793734
This

I fucking hate this place but 8--chan is slow as fuck and the rest are literally whos
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>>793731
>This thread has a purpose
This board has a purpose. If the head Admin refuses to be held accountable under this kind of scrutiny, then of course you're going to get spill-over across the site. And indeed, across this board.

Don't act like there isn't serious cause for concern here.
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>>793731
Your backseat moderation is no different.
Lead by example.
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>>793721
Also I know it's a cliche, but "the truth does not fear inquiry".

Hiro has been dodging many pertinent questions from users on this board. He can only get away with it for so long before people decide they've had enough.
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HIRO MAKE THE SITE MORE NORMIE FRIENDLY

YOU BOUGHT THIS PLACE TO MAKE A PROFIT FROM IT, DIDNT YOU?

KICK THE "MUH CULTURE BOARD" AND THE "MUH NORMIES ARE RUINING MY ECHO CHAMBER REEE" FAGS. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE STOPPING YOU FROM MAKING MAD DOSH FROM THIS SHITTY IMAGEBOARD.
ALSO BAN ANYONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT REDDIT/NORMALFAGS
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>>793740
>literally whos
>I fucking hate this place
fuck off
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>>793748
>And you crying like a complete faggot is going to accomplish absolutely nothing.
That's cute and all but exactly who the fuck do you think you are to be the judge of this? If you're not a mod, fuck off.
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>>793734
I disagree. This place is my home and I come here because I love it and it's users, not because I have nowhere to go.

I'd rather help fix the place from the inside than abandon it.
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>>793748
>And you crying like a complete faggot is going to accomplish absolutely nothing.
This simply isn't true and you know it. Even if it was, I'd rather badger the guy to fucking death and rest knowing I tried than sitting by and doing nothing at all.

>Boohoo someone isn't doing something the way you like it now shout and tell your mommy to fix it for you
"someone isn't doing something the way you like it"?

Have you fucking turned off the adblocker? There's adware all over. Have you seen the way this guy speaks? He's plainly full of shit. What reasons could this guy have to not answer the questions he's being asked? The answers he's given are far from satisfactory, and that you'd prefer a compliant userbase, unquestioning for fear of being seen as immature or whatever, tells me that you're just a brainless contrarian.
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>>792663
Fuck you hiro we're on to your shit
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>>793766
Literally all you're going to achieve, except making the entirety of 4chan dumber with your unsourced infographics, is make the admin not listen to anything the users say.
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Hey Hiro, address this image.

>>793694

>>793761
Not according to you, no. Your opinion accomplishes nothing.
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>>793757
>>793753
>no fun allowed!!!!one

you should've applied to be a janitor, you'd fit right in with those overweight spergs.
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>keep ads (only idiots see them)
>delete almost all porn boards because there are 50000 websites better suited for porn
>merge /wsg/ with /wg/
>delete /soc/ (not even 4chan, fucking look at the people posting there)
>reduce file size limit to 2mb
>ban mobile posters

4chan is now fixed
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>>793770
Why would Hiro ignore the userbase of a website he wants to profit from? Fucking idiot.

More to the point, he's playing a pretty dangerous game. For some users 4chan is all they have. If he lets it go to the dogs, he'll have hell to pay from angry virgins the world over.
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>>793767
Samefagging but pic related.
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>>793776
So why isn't he taking any of these things into consideration? People have been pestering him with ideas for ages now, but all he's settled on are more pass features, MORE boards (?!) and donations (which won't work nearly as well without a clear target, which he is hesitant to give because of some bullshit "discount" nonsense).
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>>793788
4chan isn't in any danger, he wants more money. Also every idea in that post is retarded as fuck.
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>>793781
I've demonstrably accomplished something though, anon. :^)

What better is there to do on 4chan than scrutinize the shady rhetoric and past practices (which, based on current happenings, may be underway once again) of the man currently running it? Even if I'm wrong, the worst he can do is remove the doubt that still exists.

Which he can't, and he fucking knows it.
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>>793798
Explain how they are retarded, I'd like to see you try
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Threadly reminder: This thread is for reporting malicious ads.
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>>793798
>4chan isn't in any danger
>literally posting in a thread about reporting adware

K E K
E
K
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>>793798
>Also every idea in that post is retarded as fuck

Then why doesn't he tell us WHY they are retarded as fuck?
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>>793811
I think I'll do it as many times as I feel like accomplishing something, actually. Thanks.
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>>793806
The only thing in danger are users
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>>793777
>Why would Hiro ignore the userbase of a website he wants to profit from?
Because whether you like him or not has very little to do with how much money he makes.

>If he lets it go to the dogs, he'll have hell to pay from angry virgins the world over.
If you install the ad blocker of your choice, which all angry virgins have, the site will look much like it used to.

Basically all you're doing is making this thread unusable for malware ads and convincing the admin that you're a bunch of unreasonable faggots not worth appeasing.
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Did Hiro leave?
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>>793822
>I'm just trying to help you have a better day
Thanks, Anon.

>>793823
>Because whether you like him or not has very little to do with how much money he makes
>he's actually implying that an exodus of users would not lead to a direct fall in the profits he might have otherwise received from ones who would have stayed
Come on, son.

>If you install the ad blocker of your choice, which all angry virgins have, the site will look much like it used to
If you seriously think appearance is the only issue here then you should stop posting.
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>>793828
I fucking hope so.
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>>792663
>If you find malicious ad, please report it.
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If I leave 4chan open (even just one or two threads) for a little while now my firefox becomes rather sluggish in the way it scrolls through those threads. It fixes itself by closing and re-opening Firefox, but of course only until it happens again.

I haven't had this problem ever since Hiro has put all these ads on the site. Which I don't see because I have ublock origin.

Anyone else?
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>>793851
use chrome bitch
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>>793851
No, I don't have that problem with firefox.

It's probably a problem on your end.
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>>793874
The font used on 4chan looks slightly off in Chrome, don't like that

>>793876
Alright
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Does a malicious admin count as a malicious ad?
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>>793719
Apparently someone sent them an email and they intend to start a new contract in December at a discounted rate.
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>>793788
>>793776
2,3, and 5 wouldn't do anything, Cloudflare takes the bandwidth hit from images.
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>>793912
But hiro has to pay for that
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>>793892
yes
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>>792663
I use ad blocker, are you mad at me hiro? I don't want you to be mad at me
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>>793914
He pays for Cloudflare's advanced DDoS protection. 4chan would be dead every other day without it. Even if he got rid of all images on 4chan he still couldn't do without that.
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>>792663
MOD/DEV COUP D'ETAT RIGHT NOW
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I came to /qa/ specifically because I've been seeing this shit.

Also someone fix /pol/ leak into /fit/
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>>792663
Hiroshima, I trust you more than all these autistic armchair weeaboo autists and I believe your intentions and actions are with good heart and I hope you're able to find a solution to the problem.

That said, good luck dealing with all the entitled NEET weeaboos with manchild attitudes, I wouldn't expect them to drop a penny unless you especifically whisper to each one of them you're their friend and you love them, because that's all these faggots want deep down.
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>>793936
I love that you're conflating his utter lack of transparency and question-dodging with pleas for infantile pampering.

We're really not asking for anything unreasonable. Just for him to expound on why he won't implement certain features and what the server costs actually are that would warrant any significant changes at all (to the extent that 4chan may die). There are many other questions such as how these ads came to be on the site in the first place and the like, too. He himself has said he has many years experience running imageboards, so how could he let this happen in the first place? If it's not his fault, then let him say so and why. Properly.
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>>793992
The problem is 95% of the people asking hiroshima are literal fucking autists that are incapable of following any kind of fucking thought process. He's already answered most of the questions being brought up and given explanations, he's done so repeatedly, but he still gets fucking bombarded with questions and insults from all the retards that can't read or play armchair admin.

And I regularly see complete bullshit being fabricated on many boards by anons for no real fucking reason, lies and misinformation being flung around for shit and giggles. And then retards start discussing shit out of already distorted facts, and following human nature, only the most sensationalist shit gets people's interests, especially if it plays into their world view or narrative.

Meeting and chatting with anons has only confirmed to me that 4chan is a cesspool of autists. It's still a funny place though, and among the sea of autistic retards there are genuinely good and interesting people that can bring value to your life. It also depends on a board by board basis.

Hiroshima should just make a FAQ and sticky it or write it on his blog, discussion on these threads don't lead anywhere after a certain point.
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>all this bullying
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>>794062
xD
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I bought a pass but I still get obnoxious ads on mobile

would be cool if it hid mobile ads
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>>793749
I think a better way of putting it would be "A lie can run round the world before the truth has got it's boots on...but now the truth has got it's boots on and it's ready to start kicking..."
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>There are people that STILL trust gookmoot
You people are the very definition of cucks, as long as Hiro doesn't release any official statistics about the site and its cost (not that dumb Amazon cloud shit that we aren't using and is most likely more expensive than the shit we use) the site is in no real danger and he's just trying to scam you, nobody is stupid enough to resort to malicious ads on a site unless they truly cannot get any other person to put up ads and jlist is coming back, he's just trying to scare you people into pocketing more money like he did on 2ch
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>>792663

My friend, you should commit sudoku before we find you IRL. Consider this warning mercy.
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>>794086
His justification for not releasing information about exactly what is paid for hosting is that 4chan pays significantly less to its hosting than do other clients.
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>>792663
Fucking kill yourself.
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>not a single report
>just people bitching
nice
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>>794100
How convenient
Also if it were true that
>4chan pays significantly less to its hosting than do other clients
Then how the fuck can it be "struggling" to stay alive?
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>>794086
I'm more bothered by him inflating the theoretical costs by 3 times in his already inflated example.
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>>793934
Mgid is showing up for me. The top banner acts like it's loading then the bar appears at the bottom.
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>>794111
How are people gonna report ads if everyone hides them now?
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The floating banner on the bottom doesn't bother me as much. It's what I put up with on Pixiv
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>>788606
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>>794062
i love memes too XD!
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>>794086
>jlist is coming back
Source?
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>>794113
Few people are willing to pay for advertising on 4chan, given its popular reputation, so they can essentially set what they pay. Also, as the site's users grow, it seems for a given thread, the traffic would grow roughly quadratically in the number of users, not linearly. 4chan has seen significant traffic increase over the last year.
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>>794135
So you are saying that moot lied.
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>>794139
I have no idea; I'm conjecturing based on what is known. It's very plausible that moot would not have foreseen such an increase in the userbase. Would you have predicted it?
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>>794113
How much revenue, exactly, do you think that 4chan makes in a year?
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>>794148
200 billion theoretical internet dollars.
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I'd like to report on the huge banner between the last post and the bottom menu and the fixed floating element. It's destroying the usabilility of this site. Not to mention it makes the site load like a turtle.
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>>792737
>Hiro tries to give everyone malware
>stop bullying Hiro
???
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>lose weight in 30 days

Does 4chan endorse outright lies?
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>>793934
I'm also just here to report this. Reporting the same, on /vp/.
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>>794173
moot said hiro was the most qualified to take over 4chan, so yeah.
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>moot now makes money from actual job
>probably a really good amount
>he won't come back and save us

Fuck him
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>>794173
You can lose weight in 30 days, retard
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>>791768
>>791768
>>791768
Hiroyuki started adding malware ads in November 2015 when 4chan's Alexa rank, which is unreliable but still cited by Hiroyuki as "evidence" the site is in financial trouble, was declining. If you didn't notice it, it's because they started out only on the front page and gradually expanded to more pages.
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>>793892
Can't spell admin without ad, so yeah.
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>>794173
You can lose 1 kg just by taking a shit.
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>Not a single word from hiro
Really makes you think
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>>794200
Did he an Hiro?
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>>794191
Not through some snake oil being sold in a dubious banner ad.
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>>794203
The add works
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>>794202
I hope so
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If the problem is not enough advertisers, what is stopping you from just copypasting

<a href="http://main.exoclick.com/img-click.php?idzone=1742748" target="_blank"><img src="https://syndication.exoclick.com/ads-iframe-display.php?idzone=1742748&output=img&type=728x90" width="728" height="90"></a>

from the <noscript> tag on https://www.4chan.org/news ?

There would be no malware because it's just an image.
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>>793657
This... is a valid point.
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SELL 4CHEN TO DIAZ
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>>793657
Threads without images are like 1 kb
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>>792663

Hey Hiro, I have my adblocker disabled, yet I see no ads at all. Why is this?

Also, do you payed by clicks or flat rate? If clicks let us know, I will click the shit out of some ads.
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>>794296
4chan x blocks ads by default
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Say hi to me Hiro!
I'm your fan!
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Hey hiro you should put ads in between posts in a thread

like this

And do it on mobile posts too.

Ylilauta does this perfectly.
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>>794311
i dont have 4chanx
im on firefox
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>>794200
He's sleeping.
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>>794395

yo hiro

can we please get ads that disguise themselves as posts?

i would love to see post ads on my new macbook pro with touch bar (see https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/ ).

that way people would read the post ads, thinking it was a legit post and possibly click on the links.

a lot of news sites do this in their articles.
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>>794311
*ad scripts

Something like >>794222 would show just fine. Just want to emphasize that in case Hiroyuki is reading.
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>>794426
Native advertising.
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Mook can you leave, take your dirty ads, and let the mods form us into a proper Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune?
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>>794203
how do you know if you haven't tried?
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>>794465
He already left. His last post was ages ago.
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>>794759
happens every time he comes here
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Mods should ban people for the lulz again
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Kinda weird that this is a Hiro thread but it's just plain dead for hours. I guess the lack of Hiro posting must have something to do with that.
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>>792663
what were all those donations for if youre gonna goof up
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>>795150
chink needs a new car
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>>795153
hondahondahondahonda
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1: delete /pol/
2: ban images over 2 MB
3: ban WebMs
4: delete the 20 smallest boards
5: ????
6: Profit
7: Remove malware
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Is he our savior?
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>>795159
No, he's just a retard.
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EXPLAIN YOURSELF, HIRO
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>>795270
>Satan knows what he's doing...
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>>792663
Give me a yap and a (You) before we die
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please stop :(
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>>795294
>>795295
Phoneposters btfo
Based Hiro
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>starting this shit again
Nah I'm not gonna bother asking you questions anymore.

Drink bleach and swallow a match afterwards you colossal faggot.
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I honestly don't give a shit about the ads on pc because they don't redirect or anything, but for fucks sake stop telling me that there's hot russian women in my area who want to fuck me.
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What the fuck is this shit you fucking ricenigger?
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>>795329
>>795295
try and post links and where this happend, he can't stop them if you dont tell him stuff
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>>795329
see
>>795303
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>>795329

Chew my dick 4chan
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>>792755
>I am everyone on 4chan
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>>795330
The link includes your public IP.
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tfw i suggested to put malicious ads to btfo phoneposters and non adblock users and hiro did it
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>>793606
That literally wasn't it. The only thing that changed in the period between "J-List likes advertising here" and "J-List wants 4chan to die" was the increase in /pol/ users.

Or, something that Hiro isn't telling us. Since you fuckers will believe any old shit as soon as you hear it from an anonymous source, I bet he asked the J-List guy for CP and heroin.
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>>794173
The statements posted here are works of artistic falsehood. Only a complete idiot would take anything here as fact.

>>794181
B A N T E R
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>>795365
What changed was the cost of ads
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What the fuck is this shit?!
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>>795387
see
>>795303
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>>795365
>CP and heroin

Close, but you're a queer.

J-list pulled because of too many people using adblockers. Now, if that was because a lot of posters got paranoid because of the rumors of malicious ads, who knows.

But, now with malicious ads everywhere, you can bet your candy ass the majority of anons will install adblockers.
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>>795391
That doesn't answer my question, numb nuts
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Got one in the qa archive http://bonus2.textplaywin.me/template_23/step2.aspx
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>>795387
Some malicious advertisers setup a site to try and make it look like you suffered a crash on your android. They want you to download an app from the app store or download an APK and sideload it.

They usually redirect your browser enough you cannot just use the back button and a few more malicious ones add a countdown timer and call the vibration function on the phone (usually able to be disabled in settings)
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Hiro you god damn retard.

What's the plan if 4chan dies boys? Where do we go? Do we make our own site? Move to 8 chan?
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>>794046
>He's already answered most of the questions being brought up and given explanations, he's done so repeatedly
Except he doesn't give actual fucking answers, he gives us the run around and retards like you suck his dick over it.
>Hiro what changed to make 4chan this desperate for money and why did you implement malicous ads?
>Server costs have changed, 4chan needs more money
>BUT WHAT FUCKING CHANGED
>Server costs changed, I have already said

He doesn't give real fucking answers, stop praising him like a goddamn retard when he's lying to us
>>
Hiro, there are plenty of malicious ads still fucking with not only my phone, but also my desktop. Ads that have already been reported in these threads. Why aren't you dropping ALL ads temporarily for the FUCKING SAKE OF 4CHAN'S USERS' SAFETY? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?

DO YOU WANT EVERY SINGLE USER TO USE AD BLOCKERS YOU STUPID INCOMPETENT FUCK?
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I fucking hope Moot comes back. He was a major faggot but wasn't a Jew.
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>>795417
There is already a thread up for this
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>>795442
link it faggot
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>>795447
Use the catalog you useless faggot. No one is here to spoonfeed your stupid ass.
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>>795438
Last I heard he started working for google. He's never coming back.
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>>795451
this
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Tell me why you haven't been kicked out yet Hiro. You're the biggest conman the world has ever known. I'm sad that people still suck your dick after all the shit you've done.
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>>792702
Why shouldn't I bully the most pathetic excuse for an owner. He deserves it for his shady history. No wonder Japan kicked him out.
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>>795468
>Tell me why you haven't been kicked out Hiro
It's probably because he owns the website.
>>
If you're on a phone, the ads are nothing new, just appearing on 4chan for the first time. It won't scare anyone off.
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>>795472
That didn't stop him from getting kicked from the ownership of 2ch now did it? Any mod could end up finding the code for the site and remove any trace of Hiro's ownership
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>>795475
I've used my phone for browsing the net for years. Never have I seen such malicious and disgusting ads that force you to either close the browser or restart the phone entirely.

Not to mention the abhorrent BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP that comes whenever I run into one of these "YOUR PHONE HAS 66 VIRUSES!" popups
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>>795476
Hiroyuki is the legally registered owner of 4chan.org and could take legal action in US courts to get it back. He was not the legally registered owner of 2ch at the time it was seized from him, and would have had difficulty navigating the Japanese legal process given that he was an itinerant.
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Hiroyuki claims traffic has increased drastically forcing him to use malware ads.

He shows 3 PB/month:
http://blog.4chan.org/post/152411853897/4chan-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-4chan-doesnt

What was it like under moot?
https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118
>2,838 Terabytes per month
From the same post:
>The site isn't in danger of going under financially any time soon, and it's as fast and stable as ever thanks to continued development and recent server upgrades.

Oops!
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>>795485
screen cap before the jew deletes this
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>>795485
He claimed the server prices increased.
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>>795485
I think the bigger whoops is that Cloudflare doesn't charge for cached bandwidth in the first place.
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>>795508
Cloudflare kicks you off their "free unlimited plan" if you try to send too much traffic through it.
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>>795514
Nothing is truly unlimited for sure, but they don't charge for bandwidth on any of their plans. It's a flat rate.
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Hey remember when some mod yesterday was like you got banned for 3 days because you complimented a gay comic.

Where's all the bans for the people talking about a gay comic in >>>/v/356195000
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>>795527
The flat rate is calculated based on how large a customer you are.
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>>795531
Mods only mod post for attention or to create a distraction.
They're fucking terrible human beings, generally speaking.
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>>795534
I do find it funny that that was the only post a moderator besides Hiro made, like it was really that important over everything else.
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>>795539
>to create a distraction.
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Hiro just delete /pol/, everyone hates that fucking board and it's the source of all these problems with huge traffic, just delete that piece of shit board and everything will be solved.
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>>795541
Traffic will go down after the election. You anti-/pol/ fags have got to chill the fuck out.
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>>795548
Traffic is about the same as what it was under moot.
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>>795559
I meant on /pol/.
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>>794811
I know. It's like he can't stand us or the debate.
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>>792916
pol wasn't the size of /b/ a year ago
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>>796089
Do you really think the increase in traffic in a single board would fuck the site up that much? 4chan has had it worse, why didn't the site break down when the GamerGate shit happened?
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>>796095
>cant do math
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>>796095
I think you underestimate how much it has grown

lots of gaygators fled to 8gag anyway
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>>795365
>>795398

From my knowledge, it was moot leaving and the contract not being renewed. J-List ads were based on commission, not click-through rate.

>>795487
lol, he's not

>>795497
Server prices increased dramatically as a result of the native archive being operated, and posting rates increased rapidly because of /pol/'s (media reports as "alt-right") and their link to Trump. This is among several other political fun things, like Pepe the Frog being declared a hate symbol.

Remember GamerGate and how that made /v/ a hotbed before mods shut that shit down? Now, there are ~26,886 threads in the past 7 days for /pol/'s archive. There are only ~13,547 in /v/'s archive.

>>795527
4chan is not a free customer on CloudFlare. It is an enterprise plan.

>>795559
Traffic is slightly higher, with which bandwidth and which data being used more broadened. This is problematic for storage and traffic considerations.

>>796101
Cool graph, sauce?
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>>796117
it's on the archives under stats and activity
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>>792663
Hi Hiro, I will. Have a good day.
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>>796119
Not /pol/'s, sadly.
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>>796127
what? yes it is, anon.

which archive are you looking at?
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>>796129
The native one.
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>>796130
it's on 4plebs
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>>795329

Fuck's sake Hiro, fix this shit
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>>795531
Oh nice, it's the butts comic. A classic. No idea why they'd post that instead of a picture of one of many visual novels, though.
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Thank you hiro for giving all the dumb phoneposters viruses.
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>>795329
Thank you for your report.
I sent to the ad agency.
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>>796179
First
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>>796126
Thank you for your assistance.
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>>796179
Who is listed in the flight plan you just sent to the agency?
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I hope hiro senpai notices me
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>>796184
right one.

>>796191
Good morning.
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Hey Hiro, don't you think making accounts and having a 3-7 day restriction to post would fix the shitposting a little bit?

I'm not talking about showing an username (I have mixed feelings about this), just the fact that you have to make an account and wait for it to be old enough would at least make people have second thoughts when they want to do things that get them banned

I know the anonimity is like 4chan's identity but i also think people abuse it a little too much
>>
Thanks for all the traffic Hiro
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>>796201
They would make new accounts every time.
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>>796206
A voice of reason. Having accounts would kill the purpose of this website.
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>>796201
would definitely remove a lot of funposting but it would also kill the site as we know it.

also the name field should only be available to qualityposters who bought a pass
( ゚ヮ゚)ノ
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>>796206
a 4chan casino?

4chan youtube board were the youtube shills give you a cut - a self promotion pass?
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>>796212
Japanese version.
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>>796212
"remove /pol/" is the only comment that comes to mind when seeing infographs like this
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>>796201
Fuck off back to r*ddit, newfag.
Everyone on /v/ already told you to fuck off with your shitty ideas.
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>>796206
Throwing this into the wind:
Make passes only $1 for six months or $1.75 for 12 months, in American money, then make all boards aside from /b/ pass only to post.
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>>796212
which CDN sell bandwidth $0.0125 per GB?
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>>796219
>then make all boards aside from /b/ pass only to post
this is basically somethingawful and a very good way to kill the website
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>>796219
You can use /vip/.
it's spam-free as you mentioned.
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>>796220
Could you give me some proofs?
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>>796226
i use /vip/ all the time.

you should post more often there to generate traffic.
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>>796179
>>796183
>>796194
>>796206
>>796222
Hiro care to explain why you've been saying traffic has been increasing when it's almost the exact same as it was when Moot was in charge?

And why the fuck you used literally the most expensive fucking example? There's no goddamn way this site costs 90k monthly. Stop fucking lying to us
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>>796232
>it's almost the exact same as it was when Moot was in charge
except it isn't.
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>monetising 4chan is harder than monetising cheese pizza
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>>796226
>it's spam-free as you mentioned.
Not entirely sure where spam was mentioned.
That aside, /vip/ has no traffic because it has no restricted, popular topic. If you made /a/ pass only, for example, it would still generate multitudes more active posters than /vip/.

It was just an idea, though. Nothing to take serious. 気にしないでくださいね。
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>>796230
Probably, some people get mad when I post there with "## Admin"
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>>796237
make /pol/ pass only.

then delete /pol/.
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>>796235
Really now?

http://blog.4chan.org/post/152411853897/4chan-bandwidth-was-3pb-last-month-4chan-doesnt
>3000 TB

https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118
>2838TB

WOW SUCH A DIFFERENCE, THE SITE'S GOING UNDER NOW EVEN THOUGH MOOT SAID IT WAS FINANCIALLY STABLE AT THAT RATE
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>>796238
some people get mad at literally anything they can.

just ignore those people.
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>>796232
AWS is popular for server business industry.
Could you name some others more popular than AWS?
And, I wrote "4chan doesn’t use amazon web services."
Where is a lie, you said?
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>>796243
You're intentionally using an incredibly more expensive example. In fact AWS is nearly two fucking thirds more expensive than quadranet, which is what this site uses. And we know you get a deal on top of that.

The lie is that you're intentionally pretending like 90 thousand dollars is a realistic comparison when you know the actual number you pay is NOWHERE near that
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>>796243
Also address this post>>796241
Traffic has barely gone up at all and Moot said the site was financially stable. What changed to make the site desperate for cash?

If you don't give us real fucking reasons we have no choice but to believe you're just a conman trying to get as much as you can out of us
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>>796244

I wrote my intention when I wrote it.
And, you don't answer my question yet.
"Could you name some others more popular than AWS?"
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>>796247
As I wrote earlier, things has changed. servers cost gets up. And ads gone.
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>>796241
it might of been? with J-List, do you see J-List?
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>>796249
How about Quadranet and cloudflare, which is what the site actually uses?
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>>796249
You shouldn't have used AWS in the example because it's popular, you should have used quadranet because that's the actual fucking one you use and is more truthful and honourable you sneaky gook fuck.
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>>796250
WHAT CHANGED? WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS CHANGED.

Beyond J list no longer having ads here, what specifically has changed? Besides you implementing incredibly malicious ads of course
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>>796252
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796255
nice best dubs

what does pic related say?
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>>796249
>I wrote my intention when I wrote it.
And can you admit that 90 thousand dollars is nowhere near the price that you actually pay for the servers?

>>796255
So your solution is to pretend the price is much more comparable to an incredibly more expensive option?

Admit you don't pay anywhere near 90k
>>
2chの二の舞いですね、わかります
氏ねばいいのに
I sure ain't gonna fall for your bullshit, Hiroyuki.
Stop replying to people by asking questions, you fucking kike.


>>796255
It's the 10th time you've posted this, we're hitting copy pasta levels now.
Post the price you goddamn liar.
Everyone noticed how you hid the uncached bandwidth figures on purpose when you posted that one pic.
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>>796254
>WHAT CHANGED?
Don't you read English?
"servers cost gets up. And ads gone."
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>>796255
You've already said 4chan pays half, it's already out there, everyone already knows.
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>>796257
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrasuructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796255
>4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
>If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
>Then our price would become as high as other clients.
>I don't think it's a good way.
top kek
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>>796258
Same question deserves same answer.
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>>796259
But cloudflare has flat rates that don't apply to the amount of data being used. So how did the price go up?

I understand the ads are gone, but you've implemented probably more profitable malicious ads in their absence.

Go into details, don't be vague like you love to do
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>>796260
So why is he mad?
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>>796261
>>796263
I'm not asking you to even give us a figure. Just admit that 90 thousand is a joke figure that is not near the real one.
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>>796264
If you really want to know, ask cloudflare.
If they say "all plan is flat rate."
Please let me know,
I'll sue them.
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>>796265
Because you're still using AWS in your example which gives other people the false impression that 4chan is more expensive than it is.
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>>796265
this post should be a banner.
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>>796266
How may times should I copy and paste same text?
I don't tell numbers.

4chan gets tremendous low price for infrasuructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796270
Pull your tongue out of his ass namefag
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>>796269
even if 4chan gets a discount, it could still be very expensive to maintain, especially after losing advertisers.
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>>796261
>we're getting tremendously low prices!
>but the site has financial issues, please donate!

>>796263
You do know that's not how you should communicate with your userbase as the admin, right?

You really are the worst that's happened to this site.
You killed 2ch and now you're gonna kill 4chan too.
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>>796255
>I don't think it's a good way.
..but whoring this place out to russian and chinese malware providers is a beter way? Like (nearly) everyone has said, 4chan users would (probably..) support the site costs plus a bit, without the crap, bit ONLY if the figures were honestly laid open. Judging by your responses to date, its not going to happen but, is it? It remains, your choice.
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>>796266
bait dubs
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>>796274
don't bully.
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>>796269
Please learn English.

"4chan doesn’t use amazon web services."
http://blog.4chan.org/
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>>796276
2ch isn't dead.
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>>796271
I'm not asking you to tell us the numbers. I'm asking why you acted like AWS, a vastly more expensive option, is even remotely comparable to what you actually pay?

Why did you give that example, knowing that people would assume you pay 90k?
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>>796275
>could still be very expensive
And could also still not be, which is why we're asking for figures instead of scaremongering bullshit.
>losing advertisers
We had J-list and only J-list and they paid basically nothing.
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>>796280

burn.>>796269
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>>796283
he shouldn't give out specific figures if it's going to jeopardize the deal he has.
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>>796276
infrastructures costs low,
Lower income can't pay it, though.
Is it difficult to understand?
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>>796280
You say AWS can be used to guess the price 4chan pays.

This is a lie because 4chan uses a cheaper alternative AND gets a discount. You are a liar.
>>
>>796280
Then why even use that example? Why not use the actual service you use, but not include your discount? That keeps the real number you pay hidden, but also gives us a realistic example of what you pay
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>>796285
It won't jeopardise the deal because we already know who he uses and he's already said we get a deal. The information is out there. Wipe that brown off your nose.
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>>796277
I wrote many times.
Giving real number honesty gets more cost.
We know donation doesn't work.
How do you think?
>>
>>796282
AWS is popular for server business industry.
Could you name some others more popular than AWS?
And, I wrote "4chan doesn’t use amazon web services."
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>>796282
Hiroyuki gets tremendous price for pretending to be retard.
If he answer questions, the ruse is up and people mad.
Then no-one pay money and have to flee country again.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796292
>We know donation doesn't work.

Only because you didn't want it to work, you put no effort into it. jesus fuck you havn't even done the message display page
>>
Hiroさん、力まないで、リラックスしようね
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>>796277
>4chan users would (probably..) support the site costs plus a bit
elmayo
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>>796281
It's not dead, sure, but he sure whored it to death when he still was its admin.
>rangeban people
>but with this super special feature you can still post
>but you have to pay for it, of course

>for some reason you can't make threads
>but with this you can bypass the restriction!
>pay up goy
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>>796290
wish this was the /int/ banner tbqh desu
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>>796288
AWS is popular for server business industry.
Could you name some others more popular than AWS?
And, I wrote "4chan doesn’t use amazon web services."
>>
>>796289
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
>>
>>796291
if he gives specific numbers their other customers would try and renegotiate their prices which would only end up in 4chan losing the deal
>>
>>796293
Bring back doubles and visible sage on all boards so we can self-moderate a bit more. The removal of these features directly correlates to worse content. I know that's not what this thread is about really, but I thought it was worth saying.
>>
>>796295
Could you do it for me, please?
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>>796293
Cloudflare. Go ahead and calculate exactly how much you'd be paying with cloudflare.

And because you love ignoring this part I'll put it in caps. LEAVE OUT THE DISCOUNT, SO YOU DON'T RISK PAYING HIGHER PRICE

>>796294
There's literally no other way to take it. It's like talking to a brick wall that's trying to steal my wallet
>>
Hiroshima I trust you, keep up the good work senpai.
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>>796256
Long Thunder
Hand Overcome
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>>796307
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796300
>And, I wrote "4chan doesn’t use amazon web services."
But you said the price can be used to guess what 4chan pays. This is a lie you red button nip monkey.
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>>796311
Please learn English.
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>>796309
Thank you!

>>796312
4chan gets tremendous low price for infrastructures.
If we show the price, their other clients get mad.
Then our price would become as high as other clients.
I don't think it's a good way.
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>>796311
this is now a meme
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I thought when I copy & paste again and again.
No one would asks same question.

I was wrong..
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>>796316
you're on 4chan, hiro. get used to this.
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>>796306
Do what? make a message display page? how do you expect me to do that?
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>>796316
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>>796318
maybe I need much more and more copy & pastes..
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hiro tan can you teach the posters in the djt thread japanese plz thanks in advance
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>>796316
Honestly doing it over and over just makes you come off as even less trust worthy. I have no idea how you expect this userbase to "help support" 4chan when you blatantly lie to us and avoid answering any finance related question when you are clearly lying to us about the sites financial situation.

>4chan doesn't use AWS
>But you can guess the price with it
You're intentionally trying to make it seem like the site is way more expensive to host than it really is, because you want to sucker people into giving donations and buying 4chan passes.
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>>796323
I think ignoring them would work better.

it's what moot did. you can't argue with these people, they're always angry and just want to complain.
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>>796316
That's because your shit has been debunked several times and you keep pasting the same crap.
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>>796314
ひろゆきさん、
This is slightly older but I was wondering if you would mind commenting any further on one of your older ideas mentioned in the past. I will quote the posts:
>one of my idea is adding a search engine in 4chan.
>About a search engine,
>you can search entire 4chan in one place.
http://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/183913/#211402
http://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/183913/#213080

Is this something you still have an interest in doing?

>>796323
>maybe I need much more and more copy & pastes..
Fill your pockets with spaghetti, man. That's what we do around here. Makes it easier to spill the pasta, you know?
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>>796316
their are no stupid 4chan users.
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>>796324
私達の日本語は最強です。
I think we don't need another businessman to help us out, wanikani is enough.
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>>796320
I'll do as your plan.
I'm not familiar with making a donation campaign.
Your way is much better, I think.
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>>796316
the statement is annoying because we can't move past it because you can't tell us.
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>>796323
It would probably be a good idea to make a FAQ either on your blog or on the OP of these threads so people can have an easier time finding the answers they want.

That said, remember where you are, most of the people here don't actually care to look up sources and there's people that will twist your words, and a lot of people are willing to believe the people who twist the facts just because they know no better and are stupid and lazy to verify or think stuff.
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>>796238
Moot used to post on >>>/ck/ without derailing threads, even after the GG. You should say hi.

Sorry you didn't get to be a loved-by-all admin before having a bunch of troll haters on you.

>>796280
>Please learn English.
Au point où nous en somme, vous pourriez écrire dans la langue de Molière que les gens ne seraient pas plus obtus à vous comprendre.

>>796306
Have you asked /g/?

>>796316
It kinda makes you sound like a spam bot...
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delete pol, ban phoneposters and embed this on /qa/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLJ-jXJLPcU

all problems solved
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>>796314
I've tried understanding what you're saying Hiro, but your actions do not match your words. All of your actions point towards the fact that you are the scam artist your gook friends claim you to be. I'm not giving this website another penny, not even in ad views, until you leave.

Two nukes really were not enough.
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>>796331
Give it a good name
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>>796325
I made this thread to report malicious ad.
To "help support" is to report malicious ads.
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>>796332
but he explained why he can't tell you already
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>>796326
>LOL i suck moderator cock xD namefag
Never thought I'd see the day on 4chan
This place is dead
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>>796338
Shekel Shoah
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>>796330
are you sure you didnt mean 最悪
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>>796316
You should try answering the questions.
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>>796326
yep, moot was right.
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>>796338
or replace the donation page and instead make a chan idol group to save the website.
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>>796323
いい加減にしろ、お前アドミンんじゃないか?
そんな態度しないで、恥ずかしいよ

無視ほうがいい

ひろさん信じてから
頑張ってくださいね
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>>796340
That's not what I was talking about at all. You made the blog post showing the AWS price example to try to get people to buy 4chan passes and donate.

>>796341
Except there's literally no reason why he can't tell us the NORMAL, DISCOUNT FREE cost of using cloudflare. He would give a realistic example of what he pays, and not risk increasing the price.
Stop sucking his dick over this
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>>796328
a search engine is still in process.
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>>796333
I'll paste FAQ on OP at the next threads.
Thank you for your advice.
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>>796351
Sounds good.
Thanks for the head's up.
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>>796348
>make a chan idol group to save the website.
Hiroyuki Producer-san!
Please be gentle.
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>>796331
People will donate if you play with them and do stuff, for example going on /b/ and do fake public bans for money or just doing simple css edits for donation money

Simple things like this is fun, interesting and makes people like you hiro
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>>796349
日本語力低っ
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>>796348
I'm still waiting for a staff member to get back to me

https://desuarchive.org/qa/search/text/Idol%20club/
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>>796358
逆にちんこ力上がる爆笑
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>>796335
What do I ask /g/?

En fait, j'essaye d'apprendre l'anglais aussi.
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>>796358
Nani the fuck did you just fucking iimasu about watashi, you chiisai bitch desuka? Watashi’ll have anata know that watashi graduated top of my class in Nihongo 3, and watashi’ve been involved in iroirona Nihongo tutoring sessions, and watashi have over sanbyaku perfect test scores. Watashi am trained in kanji, and watashi is the top letter writer in all of southern California. Anata are nothing to watashi but just another weaboo. Watashi will korosu anata the fuck out with vocabulary the likes of which has never been mimasu’d before on this continent, mark watashino fucking words. Anata thinks anata can get away with hanashimasing that kuso to watashi over the intaaneto? Omou again, fucker. As we hanashimasu, watashi am contacting watashino secret netto of otakus across the USA, and anatano IP is being traced right now so you better junbishimasu for the ame, ujimushi. The ame that korosu’s the pathetic chiisai thing anata calls anatano life. You’re fucking shinimashita’d, akachan.
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>>796337
Which words don't you understand?
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>>796362
unrelated to donations, but ASK /g/ HOW TO IMPLEMENT WebP

it would save bandwidth
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>>796350
I just showed the example.
Don't confuse between your assumption and reality.
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>>796368
My assumptions? You literally said
>you can guess the price based on this

It's not an assumption, it's a literal fucking quote
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>>796357
I don't think it works for many years.
I would like to make 4chan sustainable.
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>>796366
You mean, 4han convert all images to webP?
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>>796371
If Amazon costs $90,000, and hiro has said several dozen times that 4chan is getting a "tremendous discount," then it costs much less than $90,000 to host 4chan.

This is not rocket science.
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>>796372
you should consider opening up a web store that sells 4chan merchandise.
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>>796372
if you want 4chan to be sustainable get moot to run it again and go back to japan
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>>796366
>WebP
BPG would be better.
http://bellard.org/bpg/
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>>796372
>I don't think it works for many years.
"I don't think it would work for many years."
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>>796371
You literally said
"to try to get people to buy 4chan passes and donate."
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>>796378
WebP is supported and developed by Google, giving it a fair amount of edge.
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>>796375
we are thinking about it.
But I don't know what merchandises are good.
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>>796376
when moot was running 4chan all the /pol/tards whined about him and were asking for someone else.
they'll always complain about something regardless of who's running it.
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>>796379
Thank you so much, my teacher.
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>>796373
this would be the optimal solution, since it wouldn't require users to do it.

also this >>796378

supporting one or both of these formats would be beneficial.

i don't know how much resources it would take to convert the images server side, but you could also ask users to do it themselves. it worked with WebM on /gif/ (for other reasons, but still). some /g/ user ought to make a simple converter in no time.
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>>796383
>But I don't know what merchandises are good.
Loli onaholes.
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>>796382
Does webP support all platforms, 4chan users use?
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>>796384
but it lasted this long

hiro tan rolls up and this bitch is dead in a year choked to death in a conspiracy wrapped in lies
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>>796383
Pepe, feel and /pol/ t-shirts.
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>>796382
http://xooyoozoo.github.io/yolo-octo-bugfixes/#buenos-aires&webp=s&bpg=s
But just look at the comparison between webp and bpg.
It's so much better.
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>>796385
Hiroyuki which place is the most fun to visit in Tokyo
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>>796374
Except he gets a tremendous discount with cloudflare, a hosting service that is much cheaper than AWS. So even starting with the 90k example is ridiculous.

>>796381
I'm not unlisting 4chan from adblock until we get a new admin. You'll never see a cent from me, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way
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>>796383
it could start with simple items like clothing and coffee mugs with the 4chan logo on it.
you could also have tech related items like a small plastic cover for laptop webcams since a lot of people use tape and put the logo on that.
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>>796394
So, he's getting TWO tremendous discounts?
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ヒロビロさん, why don't you try camwhoring?

It's too late to go back and this place is full of ledditors anyway, so you might as well cash into their sociability and start to do some Twitch "Hiro Plays" or some shit like that.

You might even practice your English, while taking donations for 4chan.

I mean, I don't know how your life schedule is, but you could shove a weekly or monthly section into it.

Just make sure no-one can track your geolocation by recognizing your living-room or getting your IP on multiplayer.
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>>796388
I'm not certain but Android Chrome at least appears to automatically convert every image I download into webP.
Although making a thread about it on /g/ would likely be a better idea. I wasn't the anon who suggested it.
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>>796386
We have tried to make small images for mobile.
Then we will try images to convert efficient format.
Big problem is whether new efficient formats support all users browsers or not.
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>>796383
ill buy and wear girls t-back thong underwear with the 4chan logo printed on it
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>>796372
>I would like to make 4chan sustainable.

ひろさんは可愛い男の娘になるとエッチな映画を売ったらどう?
大金を稼げると思うよ
応援している~
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>>796383
full set of dinner plates.
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>>796393
http://www.touken.or.jp/english/
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>>796406
Fuck off trapfag.
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>>796399
Yes, yet he acts like 90 fucking thousand a month is a comparable price to what he pays. He's a con artist wanting to milk this site dry
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>>796396
do you know any designers?
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>>796404
>>796388
not yet, sadly. but i'm sure most people would not mind installing another browser for WebP

http://caniuse.com/#feat=webp

if you don't want to implement a format that is not supported by every browser, just keep this option in mind for when safari and firefox support it. i wouldn't expect edge or IE to support it ever, but last time i checked, these browsers don't support WebM either and we have support for that.

i'm a firefox user myself and i'd gladly use opera for 4chan only, if it helps keeping the site afloat.

maybe have a test board and see how many users complain?
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>>796403
get the link too bro
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>>796400
Thanks.
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isnt the idea of 4chan merch actually fucking retarded because the whole idea is to be anonymous

this site and [aging] "community" really is fucking dying a pathetic death as we speak
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>>796402
I'm sure PC is okay.
old mobile would be a problem.
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>>796388
>>796404
BPG comes with a javascript decoder, so it should run in every browser.

http://bellard.org/bpg/
>It also includes the source code of the Javascript decoder.
>libbpg-0.9.7.tar.gz

The javascript decoder is around 200kb
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>>796403
Is this yesterday?
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>>796411
spreadshirt has good quality, and it'd be a decent start.

then you can start asking around for exclusive designers if it takes off.

i know 420chan was able to get a store running a while ago. they also included handmade items from the staff too.
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>>796405
thanks.
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>>796419
bpg seems like the way to go

https://xooyoozoo.github.io/yolo-octo-bugfixes/#buenos-aires&jpg=s&bpg=s
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>>796417
sell t-shirt with random anon post
still anonymous
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>>796412
Yes, I'll keep in mind.
In my opinion, free web sites should be seen by everyone.
So, I'll wait for when safari and mobile browsers support,
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>>796418
there should be apps to help older mobile view it.

i use zapya to view webms because it won't open in my browser
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>>796428
4chan images must be seen by mobile browsers I think.
Or we may make a 4chan browser.
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>>796383
>But I don't know what merchandises are good.
Well, that Persona 5 girl wears a 4chan hoodie already.
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>>796430
I dont think a clover is trad marked anon
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>>796430
Cute!
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>>796430
>wanting shoddily made clothing that will literally fall apart and have a note sewn in the seam that says "gib moni pls"
No thanks
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>>796429
4chan should really have an official app on the store
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>>796438
any other tips and tricks from the reddit business model youd like to add
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>>796430
It's a clover. Where do you think the clover from our site came from, anon? I'll give you a hint: It's not from Pants Man.
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>>796438
there's clover and dashchan. i think the reason they're not in the app/play store is because of the porn boards.
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>>796433
almost an exact replica of the 4chan logo is shown at the end credits of fantasista doll so i think you're right
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>>796435
You're cute
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>>796412
>want to quickly edit pic
>hurr webp
>have to convert it to another non-retarded format
Linux autists, everyone.
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>>796442
i still have chan elite which hasn't been updated in years
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>>796448
>believing turdchan propaganda
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>>796438
Apple refused 4chan before.
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>>796446
>Linux autists, everyone.
You can edit them in most image editing software or could bulk convert to png using IrfanView, which pretty much every Windows user has.
>>
Well, original purpose of the thread is to report malicious ads.
Actually, I don't feel good to take money from users.
I like to take money from advertisers.
At this time, 4chan can make contracts only low grade ad platforms unlike Google.
If 4chan manage to prevent malicious ads,
4chan will be able to run by advertisers money.
That's my plan.
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>>792663
Ganbare!
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>>796451
>propaganda

Until Hiro adequately removes any doubt regarding these infographics, your pissweak "le redditchan xDDD" shit is useless.

He has done no such thing. He has answered nothing.
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>>796454
I hope you succeed, hiro senpai!
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>>796454
the issue hiro is that they're an eye sore, spammed all over and annoying as fuck

also get more anime ads
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>>796451
he looks like jimmy neutron
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>>796454
>Actually, I don't feel good to take money from users.
>I like to take money from advertisers.

cool

if you somehow manage to get paypal in on it, i'll buy a pass.
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Hiro, we need an answer.

Is Keksandra CUTE?
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>>796456
What you prove is that you are easily deceived.
To convince people of something, you need to show evidences or sources.
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>>796454
Hiro, I swear you are too nice to the 5% of all 4chan users who wouldn't be happy even if you gave them a solid bar of gold and told them they were admin.

Some people are scared the site is going away and are angry, but some others hated 4chan before they ever came here and are here right now to gloat and cause confusion.
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>>796464
>To convince people of something, you need to show evidences or sources.
COMING FROM THE GUY WHO REFUSES TO SHOW US EVIDENCE THAT HE PAYS ANYWHERE NEAR 90 THOUSAND
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>>796454
just ban all of the bad posters and you wont have to pay so much for the bandwidth they are using
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>>796464
I believe you Hiro-senpai
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>>796454
Fuck off with your fucking ads.

4chan users would rather a transparent donation scheme. A TRANSPARENT ONE. With a clear outline of costs required to be met. If you can provide this without trimming away at bandwidth graphs, if you can provide clear, irrefutable evidence of the costs required of the community, then they will surely meet them.

The majority of 4chan users, I'd imagine, do not want apps or fucking clothing stores.
>>
Something something text is not evidence something something.
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>>796464
do not argue with /pol/, hiro.

they don't listen. they only want to argue for no real purpose.
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>>796463
By the way, Hiro, consider removing board archives for huge boards.

http://pastebin.com/xCJYfS67

If you remove the archives on the boards with the ten largest archives, you could save a considerable amount of data. And there are already third party archives that archive boards, so there's no point in having them here.
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>>796472
>The majority of 4chan users, I'd imagine, do not want apps or fucking clothing stores
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>>796479
nice image from the previous decade when people actually thought 4chan was cool
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>>796478
Please see
>>796328
>>796351
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>>796483
Good fucking god...

ARCHIVES ALREADY HAVE SEARCH ENGINES
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>>796464
Hey. Could you allow people to use this letter on /int/?
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>>796464
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S REFUSING TO SHOW EVIDENCE AND SOURCES THOUGH, YOU FUCKING HACK.

WHAT ARE THE REAL SERVER COSTS.

>>796448
WHY DID YOU TRIM AWAY UNCACHED BANDWIDTH AND THE KEY FROM THIS GRAPH.

WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT COSTS ARE STRUGGLING TO BE MET DESPITE THE USE OF THE SERVERS BARELY INCREASING FROM 2.8PB TO 3PB?

WHY ARE THERE MALICIOUS ADS ON THIS WEBSITE IN THE FIRST PLACE? IF YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SO LONG, YOU MUST SURELY KNOW HOW TO AVOID THIS.

WHY ARE YOU SAYING 4CHAN IS IN DIRE TROUBLE AND MAY DIE WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE SUGGESTS OTHERWISE?
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>>796482
now it's not only cool, but also part of college education ¯\(ツ)/¯
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>>796478
No board needs archives. A simple redirect to a third party one suffices.

Why spent work and bandwith on stuff others already do for you?
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>>796487
dumb animeposter
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>>796472
I feel like your will never donate to 4chan.
How come 4chan do as you say while you don't donate.
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>>796489
He isn't listening. He's already making a search engine.

And he still hasn't answered the burning question: IS KEKSANDRA CUTE?
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>>796490
let's not say things we can't take back, anon
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>>796487
i bet you said "check and mate" irl to yourself then cackled maniacally while completing the captcha and subsequently pressing the post button
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>>796489
Archives may become a 4chan pass feature.
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>>796494
>I feel like your will never donate to 4chan.
you are exactly right. these types of people would never donate to 4chan. they would always find some excuse not to.
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>>796479
/b/ and /soc/ children are not 4chan.

If you'd rather appeal to them, then you'd rather see this site become a social network. Plain and simple.

No clothing stores. No apps. No fucking bullshit. Just name an amount, and it will be met. 4chan posters have nowhere else to go, of course they'd fucking support this place. However, they'd burn this place to the ground if it started becoming too "normie".
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>>796496
but I'm not a weeb and I don't like anime
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>>796497
>captcha
lol such plebs
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>>796464
Agreed.

Neither side has proved anything. You have no server cost analysis; people against you have no evidence but hearsay.
This will continue until you post server costs, or they find out sever costs. You can ignore it, but people will continue to not trust you, simply because of malicious ads.

It makes trying to pull out of the hole from increased server costs very difficult, because you have no loyal user base and no advertising agencies.

Don't post the fucking pasta at me; I get it. 4chan gets a deal for its servers. That doesn't matter because people don't trust you. You can go ahead with the malicious ads, but they're doing more harm than good. It destroys your reputation with ad agencies and the user base. It's a difficult situation and you aren't handling it with those fake ass numbers.

The traffic has increased slightly since moot left and the $90K figure is total horseshit. We know the figure is horseshit because you've said it yourself that 4chan's server costs are halved. So, with the expensive AWS as a reference, it's at most $45K.


Look, you need to have trust from the user base. Malicious ads are harming both this trust and the reputation with ad agencies. So, post the server costs. Do it. If you do that, people will turn off adblock. People WILL donate, especially with the suggestions from this and previous threads. Who gives a fuck about whatever deal you have; it's not worth losing the whole fucking site's users and any chance at all with the ad agencies. You know that they'll take one look at the site and say no. Not because of the content but because of these eyesores. No one wants to be associated with them or a site that has a reputation of them. And, I know many other chans are laughing at our home page.
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>>796497
You didn't actually dispute a single thing he said
>>796500
The excuse we have not to donate is that hiro is hiding financial details from us. Why donate when we have no idea what kind of donation goal he's wanting to hit
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>>796498
Good one, I almost laughed.
That's your solution to everything, isn't it?
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>>796498
WHAT!? Are you fucking stupid? ARCHIVES ALREADY EXIST ON THIRD PARTY SOURCES.

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/articles/credits/

Why the hell are you trying to imply possibly encouraging people to fork out money to see archived threads that ALREADY EXIST ELSEWHERE?
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Greetings.

This isn't 'malicious' per se, but in case you don't know it seems like the ad area has increased and it looks like there is a big empty space at the top of the website for someone with Ad Block on. And when enabled, "YOU MIGHT LIKE" ads only fill 2/3rds of the space. So there is some empty space there too.

If this can be removed or at least reduced by 1/3rd, I recommend doing it.

Thank you for your administration.
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I doubt you're going to provide an answer, as he does all the damn time, but it's time you settle it, Hiro.

Is Keksandra cute?
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>>796503
>not getting the joke
>name fag

hey hiro can you put in upvotes like on reddit please i really want to give this guy some karma
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>>796472
Its not so much the ads, its fucking malware with pop-up porn ads and shit. Which you only get from accepting money from literal barrel-scraper advertisers. Its not the fucking users fault, nor would it make ANY FUCKING DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER if they reported EVERY dodgy ad till they were blue in the face, hes the fucking admin responsible for dealing with these chancers, no-one else.

OH, but no won wonts to advertise on 4chan.. yeah, and turning it into a fucking Russian/Chinese malware orgy really gonna attract further quality here but, no? Hope it pays well, and short-term gain is worth it.
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>>796494
Because you haven't released the server costs. We don't know where the money is going.

You have a very slippery reputation. You'll forgive us if we're hesitant to fork money over to you when there are still questions to be answered.

Be TRANSPARENT. You really think 20 bucks a month from me is a big ask? It truly isn't. But until I know where it's going, until all doubt has been removed, I can't in good conscience support you.

The truth does not fear inquiry. If 4chan is going to "die" soon, you should be doing everything you can to remove doubt from people's minds. The fact that you aren't tells me you've got something to hide.

A lot of people are of the opinion that you're fearmongering in the hopes of playing a long-con.
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>>796511
>11
wew
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>>796498
Archives already exist elsewhere.

Fuck the archives. You don't need them. Stop trying to put things behind a fucking paywall, you leech.
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>>796498
Will having all the letters of an alphabet available on /int/ require a 4chan pass as well?
Imagine not being able to use ん or any other hiragana in Japanese.
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>>796504
THIS.

JUST. BE. TRANSPARENT. THAT'S LITERALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, HIRO.
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>>796513
wut. i got it. i was making a joke of my own to complement your joke.

did my since4pass not show up or something?
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>>796464
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>To convince people of something, you need to show evidences or sources.


HIRO
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>>796519
You can still use it in your filename. Just put your entire post there.
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>>796513
Don't argue with him. He's a since2016cloverpridefag and brainless hiro supporter.
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>>796504
Please respond to this Hiro.
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>>796530
Why would he respond to the idiots calling him a liar?
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>>796528
have fun filling out those captchas anon
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>>796498
Yo is this person fuckin retarded?
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>>796464
And while I'm here, "deceived"?

What on earth would there be to gain from infinitchan incurring more 4chan posters? They fucking hate us. Why would so many people all at once come out with multiple infographics (with many sources from Japan familiar with your past antics) if there wasn't something fishy going on? For what purpose? Why would 4chan's users want to harm this site?

You may not be too familiar with the 4chan userbase, but for a lot of us it is all we have. Nowhere else on the internet will do. Other imageboards are too slow, and forums and social media are too bogged down in rules and moderation. There are people who would kill themselves if this place went to the dogs.
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>>796534
You proved my point.
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>>796537
>infinitchan
You faggots give yourselves away. Nobody who is from here calls it that.
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>>796537
>For what purpose?
for the same reason poltards incessantly sh*tpost everywhere all the time.
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>>796487
>>796504
>>796515
>Tfw Hiro will never give these people a serious answer
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>>796255
How about I email every single one of the clients all your posts you've made about the server costs, since you want to be so evasive about everything?
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>>796540
another victory
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>>794759
If only he would leave this site
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>>796537
The funny thing is the weeaboo retards here making infographics showing random 2ch posts as proof, when in reality, they have as much validity as any random post here, yet dumb weeaboos take it as proof anyways.
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>>796545
What's worse is that there are a few people in here unironically defending him.

Anywhere else on this website and he's being torn the fuck apart.
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Hiro why you no sell site for many mirrion's of dorrars?

courd it be site is making more than actually announced and not in a bad prace?
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>>796527
Being able to make-do don't fix an issue.
You can use some other "special" letters yet you can't use this specific and important one in a board where it's important to be able to, while you can use it in some other boards where it's not likely you'd ever need to use it. It should be the other way around and it's not hard or time-consuming to fix it.
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>>796547
Yes, my victory. Thanks for pointing it out.
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>>796549
Don't conflate criminal court proceedings in Japan and well backed-up anecdotal evidence with "any random post".

We all know Hiro has done shady shit in the past. We held him in good faith when he took this site over, and now there are inclinations that that faith may have been misplaced. If this isn't the big deal a lot of people think it is, then it should be very easy to diffuse.
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>>796549
please don't blame the weebs, anon.

those infographs come from /pol/ and 8gag, and those fedora wearing neckbeards see a conspiracy in EVERYTHING and they're in a constant state of butthurt and rage looking for something to whine about.
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>>796537
There's a link to this infographic on all 8 gag boards and you fucking tell me they don't give a fuck. They're fucking obsessed.
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>>796550
He's lost any shred of credibility he had with the fucking retarded decisions he's made, especially that bullshit 90k figure.
>>796551
>Wahh reading is hard
Long posts are necessary to convey a lot buddy
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>>796556
This demonstrably is the cry cry bitch board, though. It's /qa/.
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>>796559
congratulations on your anonymous internet fight, anon.
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>>796550
It seems like some of the people here on /qa/ right now have come here only to incite the 4chan userbase against Hiro for various reasons.
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>>796568
there isn't a real punky anymore
after punky left punky became public property of /qa/
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>>796565
Of course, It's in their business interest to see 4chan fail.
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>>796565
I don't go on it.

Wasn't it /qa/ who started the big panic surrounding these figures in the first place? This is the place where Hiro himself said 4chan may die. There are people from every board panicking.

/pol/ throw a lot of shit around, but sometimes it sticks. This is one of those times. If you've looked over those infographics and could honestly say you're not the least bit suspicious, then I don't know what to say. Moreover, what's wrong with us pressing Hiro for more information? Don't act like he'd be so forthcoming otherwise.
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>>796569
>says someone using a "public property" of /qa/
>>796571
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>>796575
>I don't go on it.
yet you're still deceived by their sh*tty inforgraphs they use to troll you and spread disinfo to people who are too gullible to use any amount of common sense4pass.
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>>796573
How can it be 'in their interest' for 4chan to fail?

Then, they too would have 10s of thousands more users, and they would also be going bankrupt, because, servers. Servers x 4chan users = bankruptcy, Hiro explained all this like 20 times already. Or something.
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>>796572
Yeah. "Nice".

I'm sorry, but plenty of people have been nice up until now. Hiro keeps dodging questions.

>>796570
We're afraid for the website. It's not out of spite. He said it might die, for fuck's sake. If he's being honest, he should have no problem proving this. However, all of his proof has had holes poked in it.

He's the one that said it's dying in the first place, and in this thread he himself said we're fools for not providing sources and evidence for our counterclaims. Well the burden of proof is on him, and so far his proof is inadequate.
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>>796576
did you and original punky have a thing together??
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>>796362
>What do I ask /g/?
To make a page where donation messages are displayed. Like https://www.4chan.org/feedback or https://www.4chan.org/blotter but automated.
Btw, could you update the feedback? Last post is from over a year ago, it feels like you don't care about us (well, for people who don't check your posts on /qa/ regularly at least.)

And have you tried asking J-list to come back, with a different arrangement than before maybe, or looked for other hand-picked advertisers (beside self-serve ads)?

>>796454
Thinking about this, add the text "please report malicious ads" next to ads on every page (to adblock users too), with a link to a report page. That'll help having people report malicious ads instead of complaining or saying you added them on purpose.
Maybe make an actual report feature instead of a regular thread, indicating clearly what info you need (screencap, URL, etc.). If you do it in a thread, make a FAQ/QA in another thread, it gets confusing otherwise.
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>>796582
>We
The problem is that you don't represent "We", faggot. 95% of the site takes his word for it and that makes you angry for some reason.
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>>796486
It works now, at least it did on /vip/ the other day.
Oo
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>>796577
I'd use anonymous but it's been passed around too many times and i don't wanna catch something
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>>796580
>deceived
Are you fucking kidding me? You're the one being deceived.

Refute these infographics. Go on. I'd honestly rest a lot easier. Because everything I've read seems at least plausible, and when we're talking a matter of life or death, "at least plausible" is more than enough cause for concern.

It's very true that the site may be in trouble. However, Hiro may have inflated the scope of the situation to incite panic in 4chan users, hoping to turn a profit from extra cash coming in. He's done it before. It's been documented.
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>>796586
>95% of the site takes his word for it
source: my ass
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Hey look, Hiro magically disappeared when we pressured him.
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>>796586
>95%

Come on, now.

And damn right I'm angry. How could you not be? The proof he's provided for these costs just doesn't add up. Tell me how it does, and I'll shut up. I honestly will.
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>>796541
nobody who is from the board which shall not be named calls it that either. but he's quite accurate in saying they don't need more faggots from cuckchan there.
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>>796464
>>What you prove is that you are easily deceived.
Do you know what the word hypocrite means? Surely you do? Well, anyone who trusts you is easily deceived. This is a fact. You have made claims, but you have done nothing to support them but dodge the questions, copy paste something that has nothing to do with what people are asking and then give MISLEADING information.

People who believe you are the most gullible people on the Earth and the only people agreeing with you in this thread are shitposters just looking to cause trouble. We aren't idiots, we aren't going to fall for this year 2000 website scam bullshit. That is unless, you are an actual incompetent idiot. That is the only other possibility if you aren't lying. If you are the latter, please sell the website. You are only going to burn us down.

Just delete the fucking high traffic non-japanese boards instead of fucking adding malicious content and features to the website. They aren't going to generate you jack all money and never ever in a million years will, regardless of what you think. The only experience you have is with the jap chans, you have no capabilities when it comes to western chans and everything you think you are capable of here, you aren't.
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>>796596

>>796242
>ignore
>>796349
>無視ほうがいい [you should ignore them, in broken ass japanese]

Fucker flew away
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>>796596
Apparently we're not being "nice" enough :(((

I'm more than willing to give Hiro the benefit of the doubt still. It's obvious that he doesn't understand this website or its userbase. However, he will have to provide the real server costs before trust is restored. That I can say for sure. Until then, this is only going to get worse.
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>>796594
Since you hate Hiro so much, how about you take your whining and then go back to 8fag and never come back then? That way, bandwidth here will go down, and you can be with your own kind of faggots over there.
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>>796600
He still hasn't added the "mal ad report" on feedback page yet
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>>796586
>95%

Huh, so, you're running demographic information for 4chan? Can you tell me how what percentage of 4chan is gay? Surely, you'd know THAT, being a cocksucking faggot yourself.
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>>796592
random 2ch posts are no more an accurate news source than any other random anonymous post on the internet.

in other news romney is supposed to win the election according to pol oh wait
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>>796607
>g-go back to 8gag

You first, faggot. Stop projecting.
I've been there since 2005, I'm not going away soon and would rather have the site get well instead. That's why I'm mad. It's all going to shit.
Yes, it was shit before, but still. The malicious ads were the nail in the fucking coffin.
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>>796605
Yes. I am.

So are a lot of other people, as you've seen. This is getting ridiculous. If Hiro had nothing to hide, he'd release the server costs. If he understood this place and its community, he wouldn't be entertaining ideas of clothing stores and apps.
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Beautiful trainwreck.
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>>796596
>>796606
He's never ever going to reveal the real costs with proof, because then we'd have undeniable proof that the site isn't in danger of shutting down.
At the very least we'd see that that 90k figure he was quoting is complete and utter bullshit.
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>>796596
he was already here answering questions despite the first few posts of this thread being sh*tposts by bullies
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>>796610
It's not just random 2ch posts though, is it? He's been heavily scrutinized elsewhere, and from what I hear he's dodging courts in Japan.
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>>796615
>you are an unbearable faggot
You're not in the position to throw such insults while spamming 3DPD shit.
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>>796616
It IS complete and utter bullshit.

Hiro said that server costs are halved in one of the previous threads, so $90K is fake. It's at most $45K.
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>>796612
>I've been there since 2005
lol no you haven't
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>>796615
>you are an unbearable faggot
Is this all you've got?

I hear you about the thread though. These will keep getting derailed until there are answers from Hiro. Do you seriously think we'd get them otherwise? That he'd put up a sticky just for us, to answer the questions that he so obviously doesn't want to answer?
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>>796626
Stop projecting. You're the only one here in a noticeable fluster trying to distract and damage control.
Put your modcap on for everyone else to see.
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>>796624
Except AWS is incredibly more expensive than cloudflare. Like two fucking thirds more expensive, at most he'd be paying $30K, but halved that would be $15
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>>796464
Supporting malicious and intrusive ads on the whole site is enough to convince people that you're not trustworthy.
You have lost all trust with most of the user base with all the new ads you're throwing at everyone, it really doesn't matter what you say anymore.
The ads were a mistake, and you have dug yourself in a really deep hole now.
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>>796629

>>796619
Care to answer this?

Why are you and the avatarfag being such deliberate contrarians?
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fag with avatar lmao
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>>796619
someone was making up random allegations against him and posting their dumb little infographs at me a while ago.

all i had to do was go read his wiki page to learn all i needed to know about him and omg those infographs were lying how bout that
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>>796637
How about instead you go back to 8gag since you hate the site and its owner so much?
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Learn what projection means, champ.
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>>796606
>I'm more than willing to give Hiro the benefit of the doubt still
That's too late with all the ad spam we're getting now. Most people hate him now thanks to the ads.
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>>796644
>Wiki page
>That literally anyone can edit
I honestly can't tell if you're shitposting or honestly this far up Hiro's asshole
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>>796626
>our community is being pilfered by a fucking theif
>ROFL CRY MOAR XDDDD

You don't get to take the high-ground here.

>>796624
Refute this, and you might. Refute ANYTHING that ANYBODY has brought up in this thread and you might. Until then, all you have are complaints about noisy, disruptive users. A piss in the wind when it comes to 4chan.
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>>796637
>Why are you and the avatarfag being such deliberate contrarians?
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>>796652
>he doesn't think wikipedia is a valid source of info
Hello /pol/, how is your board this morning?
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>>796652
yeah i hear you wikipedia isnt undeniable evidence like random anonymous postings thrown together in mspaint.
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>>796305
no
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>>796658
I didn't quote you.
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>>796654
I SAW THAT, FAGGOT.
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>>796647
Okay, let's ask nicely.

Why are the accusations being flung at Hiro false? Please and thanks.

Moreover, before you complain that we should be asking elsewhere, where would you suggest that we ask? Isn't it better to ask Hiro directly out in the open? Isn't he held more accountable that way? Why is accountability a bad thing? Hiro has made claims that seem dubious. The burden of proof for his claims is on him, yet he offers inadequate, incomplete graphs of server costs. Graphs that do not add up to $90,000 from what I can tell.
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>>796464
>To convince people of something, you need to show evidences or sources.
>evidence, malware ads
>convinced, hiro is trying to scam the userbase
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>>796654
>>796664
lol could also just be a faker since there's no tripcode
>inb4 we derail the thread that way instead
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http://desuarchive.org/qa/thread/792663/#796654
WELL WELL WELL PUNKY
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Can you namefagging/tripcunt/avater fags fuck off?
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>>796586
>>796586
>95% of the site
I don't think you even use 4chan. The entirety of 4chan has done nothing but fucking criticize hiro for his recent actions. People would have preferred him to just delete fucking boards than do the cancer pay features and fucking ads.
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>>796636
>>796668
Please answer these hiro.
Any trustworthy person would NEVER fill their site with these kinds of instrutive and destructive ads.
Heck any other normal person would use a normal ad service.
Only people who are shady will use shady ads.
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>>796673
They're here to shit up the rest of the thread as an attempt to distract and obscure Hiro's previous posting and related discussion.
Remember that Hiro isn't the only one with moderation login who is apart of these threads.
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>>789631

I fucking found it. 4chan pays half for infrastructure costs. The $90K figure is demonstrably false. Using the AWS figure, it has to be $45K or less.
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>>796671
well well well what, anon?
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>>796682
>>796684
Maybe they're all hiro posting.
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>>796684
Yes, because Hiro suddenly stopping posting and you suddenly starting to spam the thread wasn't at all painfully fucking obvious.
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>>796682
yes yes everyone who doesn't foam at the mouth upon seeing hiro post is actually a secret mod
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>>796690
we all know hiro loves russian figure skaters
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>>796693
Your strawman is boring.
No one is buying it and your damage control is a waste of time.
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>>796498
just get rid of them
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Disregard that!
I SUCK COCKS!
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>>796687
I've honestly considered that seeing as no one would be fucking dumb enough to defend him so badly when he's spitting in our faces, giving us bullshit figures like 90k
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>>796698
You're wasting your time. Everything in this threads has been archived elsewhere and will be spread around the site over the next few months.
It's fucking futile. You retards are so out of touch with the userbase it's a joke.
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>>796697
>strawman
literally what.

are you just throwing around buzzwords you heard on pol and 8gag now?
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>>796678
Burden of proof is on him. He's the one who made the claims which aren't stacking up.

>I don't understand why so many of you come to this board thinking your opinions and your posts are so important that he has to answer you

I think you do. I think you're just stringing me along now. But just for your sake:

>his $90,000 figure doesn't add up
>he hasn't adequately explained how adware came to be on 4chan in the first place

Once those two are accounted for, I'm all good. So are plenty of other people. I care so much because I love this website. I hate it, but I love it.
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>>796705
don't forget to delete it so people think it was really me!
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>>796711
>beware of more infographs!
the whorror
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>>796715
put me in the screencap
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>>796713
>literally what.
You are misrepresenting the argument and opting to argue against this false characterisation.
>you heard on pol and 8gag now?
>buzzwords
You seem to know a lot about these buzzwords.

>>796722
Amazing arrogance. How did the donation drive go, again?
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>>788453
>>789109
>>792530
Hiro respond
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>>796727
i'm not misrepresenting anything, anon.

i was literally called a mod/janitor in this thread and so i proceeded to joke about how dumb that idea was
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>>796723
He's accountable for this website, because he owns it. He has a responsibility to its userbase. If you want to stretch it further, he has a responsibility to the people who've paid for passes. They're being fucked over with adware right now. Phone posters too.

I know what you're going to say. "But this thread is to stop the adware!"

Where else are we supposed to ask Hiro how this adware came to be on the website in the first place, if not to his face directly? Otherwise, he'd just be able to maintain radio silence on the issue while the rest of us are sat waiting politely for him to bring it up himself. He ignores every other thread about it. What other recourse is there?
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>>796464
How little self-awareness do you need to post this
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>>796734
cunt
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>>796749
can't argue with that!
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>>796752
cunt
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>>796556
>primary usecase of board is crying about internet nazis
>not a cry cry bitch board
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>>796752
cunt
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>>796675
>The entirety of 4chan has done nothing but fucking criticize hiro for his recent actions.
So now the 10 whining sperglords from 8gag sent here by Jim's infographics count as the "whole site"?

Where do you people get this shit from?
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>>796740
he already answered questions about the malicious ads. this entire thread, created by him, is about that very thing.
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>>796759
>Where do you people get this shit from?
pol most likely
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>>796753
That is nowhere near good enough.

How much do you have to fuck up to have adware on your site? He himself is very eager to tout his experience as an admin on other anonymous imageboards, so how did he let this happen? I, and a lot of others, would love it if he were more specific.
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>>796678
>Why do you think he has to answer you?
Replying to you seriously, because this is a community. An already established community he was given admin on. That means if he wants anything, he needs to build some form of trust with the userbase and a clear interest in the site and its culture. He has done neither. Without that connection, 4chan dies. Simple as that. There is no way around this, this is how a community works. There is ZERO argument against this one, it is an absolute.

Now, what he has done is give ZERO communication. Popping in and out to do nothing really, show no attempt to connect to the userbase and then sometimes doing something on a whim and fucking destroying shit and doing nothing to fix that mistake. He then adds fucking malicious ads to certain parts of site for no reason, he then fucking adds a ad to the fucking 404 page removing yotsuba and then proceeds to VIGOROUSLY DEFEND HIMSELF SAYING HE DID NO WRONG AND THAT THE USERS SHOULD JUST SUCK IT UP AND FORGET ABOUT YOTSUBA YOUR MASCOT DOESN'T MATTER MY AD DOES. He gives up bullshit arguments for it and then basically says I'm admin, deal with it your culture and history means nothing all that matters is my ad. He then comes back later and adds 4chan fucking gold out of no where and a fucking pass board, shit that NO ONE asked for and is actual cancer to communities. He then comes back and ads fucking malicious ads saying the site is dying, please turn off ad block.

He has shown zero instead in 4chan itself, he does dubious shit, he shows no real indication that there is is money problems and then comes out of nowhere with dumb shit saying we need to start drastic measures now or we die very very soon. And then REFUSES to provide any form of bridge of trust between us and instead just basically says trust me. Anything that isn't trust me and suck his dick he basically says you are easily decived.

Hiro has only shown he is either
Scamming us for money
An incompetent idiot.
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>>796454
You have my full and utmost support.
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>>796769
moot got opendns jacked a few years back
moot lost control of his admin account to some aussie funposter on /int/ who doxxed a tripfriend in a sticky
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>>796772
let me know if you find a publisher to print this lovely novel you wrote
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>>796759
It' amazing how delusional you are. You manage to be more delusional than the 8gag niggers. Half the fucking /qa/ catalog is threads moved from other boards. I know I'm being trolled, but fuck are you are poor one.
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>>796776
>highest bidder

That's the point. Do you understand how insanely irresponsible that is? Because if you don't, I'm willing to bet Hiro does.

I'd like to think he does, anyway. Apparently not.
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>>796781
If you hate the site then you are you here.
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>>796464
I'll give you this, you're an excellent conman
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>>796794
No, it fucking wasn't.

WHY did he do it in the first place? An open bidder system on an imageboard is asking for trouble. What possible reason could he have had other than to make money, or plain incompetence?
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>>796800
why do you need yet another reason when you already named off the reason?
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>>796800
Anon just stop. That person you're replying to is either a complete fucking retard so deep up Hiro's ass he'll never come out, or someone just trolling.

I know you're right but arguing with retards isn't going to change anything. We need to spam these questions to Hiro in every fucking thread he posts in from now on
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>>796804
I listed two. Nobody knows which is which so far, but either way it's a fucking problem. This guy should not be running this website.

>>796806
I'm done responding to you. I hope your close relatives discover you for the pedophile virgin you are and ostracize you.
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>>796809
>We need to spam these questions to Hiro in every fucking thread he posts in from now on
Don't worry, the longer this guy tries to pull this slippery shit, the longer he fobs us off with copy paste messages, the more people will hound him.
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>>796806
Most of /pol/ content is just primarily text, secondary is images. It doesn't eat into bandwidth like /wsg/ or /gif/
I'm highly skeptical of Hiro's claims. /pol/ will quite down in 10 days anyway, if he claims the costs are still too much then its totally bs over bs.
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>>796821
and then he will stop replying/making these threads altogether and ignore the community like moot did
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>>796825
Increased traffic from /pol/ is a meme. Bandwidth has only increased from about 2800 TB to 3000 TB since moot's last news post.
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>>796825
there was a graph posted a while ago on this board showing that pol used more bandwidth than both gif and way more than wsg
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>>796837
>there was a graph posted
Believing random graphs? Now you're no better than /pol/
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>>796841
it was also posted with a link to the statistics
>>796842
"delete pol" is such a common phrase in the archives
>>
When will hiro host a gwent tournament
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>>796464
Nobody believes you liar, you could easily fix the bandwidth issue but you won't.
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>>796464
So why the fuck can't I say "Ben Fischberg" without a two week ban jackass?
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Hiro, will you bring back moot?
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>>796464
BASED HIRO IS ALWAYS RIGHT

THE JEW FEARS THE SAMURAI
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>>792682
>>792680
Your time will come.
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>>796464
What is this... riddle time?
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STOP BULLYING HIRO-KUN
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>>796201
What a stupid fucking idea. That would essentially turn this place into another reddit fag hole and no one wants that and it would kill this place in a day
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why is this guy so dumb?
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>>796464
There is a lot of legitimacy to those sources. Further:
You've already fucking ruined one of my favourite boards with bandwidth gypsy shit.
If things were this dire you would
a) delete the porn boards
b) delete all the new boards you made
If none of these conditions are met with either action or a reason for why they are impractical, then there's dodgy shit going on.
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>>796494
>users have no opinion if they don't pay
Called it. Knew this was coming.

Get keen for site entropy as paid-post fatigue begins. Here we go lads.
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hiro, who is operating the family braincell at the moment?

at first i thought id give hiro a chance and it would all be fine

when he announced recently that 4chan is low on money i was still like "ok, he will probably listen to the sensible suggestions people are making and any sane person would do"

but now after reading the shit he says in the past couple of days ive lost all confidence in nasa ever locating an active neuron within his skull

how did someone so immensely stupid become the king of 4chan?

why did moot leave us with this imbecile?

hiro if you are reading this, dont even sell 4chan just give it away to any normal person with a brain because you are totally useless

dont make archives a fucking pass feature thats retarded. archives are huge, cut them all by 70%. we only need recent stuff, external websites copy the rest of it anyway.

the good thing you did was reduce cool down time for pass users, that is a useful thing.

listen to the genuine suggestions people are making
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>>796464
Hiro I get it that you own and run 4chan but since this is a community website that depends on its community you might want to come clear on the costs of running this website. Show us detailed information of what boards consume. You should also show us 4chan's revenues and what things are working so you can have the community help you male better decisions. All these malicious ads are hurting 4chan's image. Show us the data. Notice that most anon's probably would not mind if you made a good profit off 4chan. Running this shithole is hard thankless work. At the very least you should be compensated for it. But all this shady business and you only giving us vague information is only making us lose in you and 4chan.
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>>796460
>that they're an eye sore
Fucking put up with it you entitled baby. 4chan had porn ads for a long before 2011 or so, but you wouldn't know anything about that because you're a dumb newfag. Better for the site to be here with "eyesore" ads than not be here at all.
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>>796448
>404: File No Longer Exists
Topkek you shady fucks
>>796454
You knew exactly from last thread that nobody here was going to do that.
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Also gook if fucking 8ch could get 12k for a new site redesign (that ultimately failed) and additional shekels from patreon money, why is it that you think that 4chan has only gotten 2k in 2 weeks+?

Because you aren't transparent on how much capital is actually required and how much money would be needed to add new features such as mp3 uploads, sound webms site wide, etc.

If you actually gave incentive and proposals for new features if you raise X amount of money, like 8ch did, then maybe you'd get more money.

But you won't because your a fucking crook and you'd rather make easy money by doing this shit while your hotpockets create false approval for everything you do by impersonating as anon.

So once again please light yourself on fire you fucking cockroach.
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>>796479
me on the right
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Hiro, I want you to know that after all the shit you pulled, I have removed 4chan from my whitelist. I will not disable ad block on this site for as long as you are the admin, and I'm sure the majority of users feel the same. You brought this onto yourself, and the only thing that will make me and a ton of other users happy is if you step down and sell 4chan to somebody who actually gives a single shred of shit about its users.
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DELETE THE FUCKING ARCHIVES

NO ONE FUCKING USES THEM

PRETTY MUCH EVERY SINGLE BOARD ON THIS SITE HAS A THIRD PARTY ARCHIVE SITE

THESE THIRD PARTY SITES ARE FAR MORE USEFUL THAN 4CHAN'S OFFICIAL ARCHIVES

DELETE THE FUCKING ARCHIVES FOR FUCKS SAKE

IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE WORKING BRAIN CELL IN YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL YOU WILL COMPLY
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>>792663
Do something like this.
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STOP JEWING THE SITE
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>>797156
Kill yourself, piece of shit.
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>>796657
It's always shit.
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>>796586
>95%
I'm on your side here, but really it's only about 70% at most. The full spectrum of opinion looks like this:
>Hiro shills: Literally only Hiro and a couple of shitposters (1% of the site)
>Hiro the Jew has a point: maybe 10%
>I know nothing and do not care: ~60%
>I don't really trust Hiro: ~20%
>Kill Hiro now he must be destroyed waaaaa: 9%

That 9% is pretty loud, which is a shame because they are autists and they are making it unfashionable to question Hiro's questionable motives.

>>796584
>And have you tried asking J-list to come back, with a different arrangement than before maybe?
That has happened. 4chan have reduced the advertising costs for J-List, so now J-List will be coming back. I don't know when; I think the J-List guy said so on Twitter though.

>>796616
>that 90k figure he was quoting is complete and utter bullshit.
Where did he actually give that number? He mentioned Amazon Web Services, but said 4chan doesn't use them. Someone else looked it up and decided it would cost $90,000/month to use Amazon Web Services, and now they're calling Hiro a liar. He's being evasive, sure, but where is the actual lie? It's not like he isn't doing enough questionable shit that we need to make more of it up.
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>>796427
No, don't wait.
Because if nobody uses the format, then nobody will implement it either because they do not see the need for it.

Since 4chan decided to use webm it got widely adopted because we shilled the hell out of it for good reasons, webm is amazing.
The same goes for WebP, enable it, let it flow, those that can view it will be thankful, those that can't will quickly get an implementation because it will spread like wildfire.

Go to /g/ immediately and start a thread about it.
Sincerely, a /g/ user.
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>>796268
haha, nice

>>796323
>>796316
Hiro, you must understand that /qa/ is not a good board for questions and answers. People here are just looking for things to attack, which is mainly you..

Arguing with idiots will never be productive, you won't change their mind, they just want to hate things until they are gone.

Use news and the blotter for announcements like new ads and money problems. Perhaps make a feedback thread if you really need to, If you want a good board for discussion and feedback, use /g/.

Best thing you can do is stay away from /qa/. I love that you communicate with the userbase, but /qa/ doens't represent every 4channer and is a very toxic board.

I am not entirely sure if you are being honest, but the fact is that you own the site and actually listen to people, which isn't something someone who doens't care about 4chan would do.

Best of luck you crazy jap.
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https://utraffic.cdn.adglare.net/img/a5q6x_mr79matasas8rtakyd84_86fb828719fb1e10d2d2e5832f4c8683.html

this link auto opened when I refreshed /g/
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>>798245
>Where did he actually give that number?
He said it would cost 90k monthly to use AWS, and then included the statement, 4chan does not use AWS, BUT YOU CAN USE THIS TO GUESS PRICE

He was clearly trying to mislead people into believing 90k is comparative to way he pays now
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>>796454
Keep it up, Hiro-senpai, I believe in you. I might even buy a pass.
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>>796494
Don't argue with them, man. These fags aren't even 4chan regular users, it's a clever 8shit spam campaign. At this point they're almost anontalk-tier, I wonder if they need users that bad.
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