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>Diane James quits as Ukip leader after just 18 days as Nigel Farage rules out a comeback
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/04/diane-james-quits-as-ukip-leader-after-just-18-days-as-successor/

>Theresa May to attack politicians who sneer at 'patriotic' working class voters concerned about migration
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/05/theresa-may-patriotic-speech-conservative-party-conference-live/

>Westminster 'could slash Scotland’s devolved laws following Brexit'
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/717720/Nicola-Sturgeon-slash-Westminster-Brexit-European-Union-devolved-Scotland-laws

>Ruth Davidson to tell Tories May has 'helped women at every turn'
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/05/ruth-davidson-to-tell-tories-may-has-helped-women-at-every-turn

>IMF crowns UK world's fastest growing major economy, but hard Brexit fears push pound to 31-year low
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/04/pound-dives-to-31-year-low-and-ftse-100-smashes-7000-as-brexit-w/

>Amber Rudd vows to stop migrants 'taking jobs British people could do' and force companies to reveal number of foreigners they employ
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/04/jeremy-hunt-nhs-doctors-theresa-may-conservative-conference-live/
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THOUSAND YEAR TORY REICH.
>The National Socialist Party has become the board. What you have inherited from your oldfags, you must lurk before you can post. The most precious memes in this board though are its own shitposters. And for these shitposters and for the sake of these memes, we have to struggle and fight. And never tire; and never weaken; and never give up; and never despair. Long live our memes, long live our shitposters, long live our shitposter empire. Praise kek!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQr2hnf1aU
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Who are these people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj9dA6E3fJw
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Don't listen to the Hitler poster

He's a tard who thinks Theresa May is secretly a national socialist.
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1st for the Old Home Guard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbZe8YK0OgA
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>>91671038
>tfw she is looking down from heaven, smiling
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>>91671193
People do tend to forget the Socialism part of National Socialism.
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>>91671327
>Thatcher
>Socialist

what?
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REMINDER to watch this video and complain to the BBC about their anti-white diversity policies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmyXaXo633M
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>>91671327
I swear this general is full of fucking mongs
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>>91671193
gotta like the thousand year torie reich part.

suppose it depends on how you view politics.
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>>91671038
You socialist fucks have your own general, go back to your hippy circle jerk, cunt
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Worried about this statist rhetoric, lads.

We did not roll back the boundaries of the European state to reimpose them at a national level, tbqhwy.
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>>91671480
>sacuck of mossad
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Anime 4 UK.
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>>91671568
>liberalism is more tyranical than conservativsm

What ancap tard made this?
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>>91671193
Her pandering to the desperate labour voters has caused this.

>'That means fighting against the burning injustice that, if you’re born poor, you will die on average 9 years earlier than others.

If you’re black, you’re treated more harshly by the criminal justice system than if you’re white.

If you’re a white, working-class boy, you’re less likely than anybody else in Britain to go to university.

If you’re at a state school, you’re less likely to reach the top professions than if you’re educated privately.

If you’re a woman, you will earn less than a man. If you suffer from mental health problems, there’s not enough help to hand.

If you’re young, you’ll find it harder than ever before to own your own home.'
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>>91671675
Me too, I hope it is just an effort to keep the boat steady, but it is almost impossible to remove implimented Socialist policy.

"In politics it is far more blessed not to take away than to give"
-Enoch Powell

But hardline anti-Socialism leads to Labour taking power.
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>>91671552
whats wrong with a thousand year old Tory reich?

t. Libertarian non-open borderer
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>>91671860
hope this is bait
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>>91671101
Can't Malarkey the Starkey
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>>91671681

I don't particularly like the guy either. It's irrelevant to the content of that specific video
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>>91671925
Oh it definitely can be done, but it takes a national crisis to do it (alla 1979).

What needs to be tackled is the belief that other people must pay for you to live in comfort (ie beyond the 'Lockean Proviso' of the minimum amount required to live)
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>>91671226
>you will never be over 50 when the second world war breaks out
why even live
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>>91672038
The spectrum does look like bait.
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>>91671226
>over 60s on the way to vote leave
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>>91672270
That's a very cute image, for some reason
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>>91671851
The best bit is the Churchill and knocking them all out at the start
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Leftists BTFO.

Lolbertardians BTFO.

All this butthurt. All in one day. Thank you Reichkanzler May for the keks.
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>>91672206
The issue is that it takes decades to remove the socialism if it can be done at all but only a moment to impliment it.

We could have 10 consecutive hardline Tory leaders and one weak willed Neo-Con popularist could ruin it. We don't even need a labour government, just someone willing to make concessions such as Heath or Macmillian.
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>>91671101
god, i'd love to hate fuck her though.
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>>91672464

>Japanese tankers don't understand tactics and banzai charge
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Night lads. And just because nat soc won the day, let's not get mad and d&c ourselves over it.

>1) Divide et Impera: Break them to the tiniest groups you can. The right is already broken into groups, but it can be divided more. United they stand divided they fall. This goes for Brit/pol/ too, they are one group: Britfags: No. Don't let that continue. Divide, divide, divide. Eternal anglos and Scotcucks are not the same. Break it into even smaller groups. High tories. Ukip. National socialists. The country the Britfags come from, they are not general Britfags, they come from here and there. Keep pushing that narrative, and to enforce it show trolling between Britfags. If an Eternal anglo trolled a Scotcuck post in Brit/pol/, /pol/, your blogpost your whatever. "Eternal anglos and Scotcucks: A divide - Anglican Eternal anglo trolled Scotcuck Presbyterian - refuse to co exist"
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>>91673456
>High Torys & Nat Soc are the same group

Enoch Powell, as pure a High Tory as you can get, renounced a Professorship to enlist in the Army to fight Nazis. When they said he can only join as a non-Combat officer he pretended to be Australian as commonwealth soldiers enlisted under different rules and he was allowed to join as a Private Soldier.

He threw away a cushy professorship and pretended to be an Aussy just to shoot some Socialist scum, how is he in the same group as them?
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>>91673995
Enoch is an absolute legend.
>there are people that unironically hate him with a passion
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>>91673995
I'm not a German nationalist you fucking idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Harmsworth,_1st_Viscount_Rothermere
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>>91674361
>learn Greek
>Become professor by mid 20's

>Join Army
>Become one of two Privates to reach Brigadier

>Enter Politics
>Completely change its Landscape

>>91674543
You're a Socialist, Nationalist or not.

Socialism is a cancer.
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>>91674855
I don't give a fuck about socialism any more than Enoch or Hitler did. But don't ever complain about RN submarines being built with French steel, or chavs roaming the streets without being given something useful to do if you're going to go full lolbertarian.
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>>91670755
DIANE RESIGNED, I AM MAKING A SACRIFICE
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>>91671860
It's American retards who think 'liberal' is a synonym for 'left'/'leftist'.
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>>91677294

Please just dump your whole folder
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>>91678634
Had I so lavish of my presence been,
So common-hackney'd in the eyes of men,
So stale and cheap to vulgar company,
Opinion, that did help me to the crown,
Had still kept loyal to possession
And left me in reputeless banishment,
A fellow of no mark nor likelihood.
By being seldom seen, I could not stir
But like a comet I was wonder'd at;
That men would tell their children 'This is he;'
Others would say 'Where, which is Bolingbroke?'
And then I stole all courtesy from heaven,
And dress'd myself in such humility
That I did pluck allegiance from men's hearts,
Loud shouts and salutations from their mouths,
Even in the presence of the crowned king.
Thus did I keep my person fresh and new;
My presence, like a robe pontifical,
Ne'er seen but wonder'd at: and so my state,
Seldom but sumptuous, showed like a feast
And won by rareness such solemnity.
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>>91681083
The skipping king, he ambled up and down
With shallow jesters and rash bavin wits,
Soon kindled and soon burnt; carded his state,
Mingled his royalty with capering fools,
Had his great name profaned with their scorns
And gave his countenance, against his name,
To laugh at gibing boys and stand the push
Of every beardless vain comparative,
Grew a companion to the common streets,
Enfeoff'd himself to popularity;
That, being daily swallow'd by men's eyes,
They surfeited with honey and began
To loathe the taste of sweetness, whereof a little
More than a little is by much too much.
So when he had occasion to be seen,
He was but as the cuckoo is in June,
Heard, not regarded; seen, but with such eyes
As, sick and blunted with community,
Afford no extraordinary gaze,
Such as is bent on sun-like majesty
When it shines seldom in admiring eyes;
But rather drowzed and hung their eyelids down,
Slept in his face and render'd such aspect
As cloudy men use to their adversaries,
Being with his presence glutted, gorged and full.
And in that very line, Harry, standest thou;
For thou has lost thy princely privilege
With vile participation: not an eye
But is a-weary of thy common sight,
Save mine, which hath desired to see thee more;
Which now doth that I would not have it do,
Make blind itself with foolish tenderness.
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>>91682227
>>91682263
>>91682300
>>91682330
>>91682374

degenerate as fuck
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>>91682503
I got a free bump out of it though.
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Why am I awake?

What is the meaning of life?

Why aren't there any crumpets left?
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>>91682736

I have to agree >>91682503

That being said, what's her name?
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>>91683127
What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.
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test
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>>91683094
>What is the meaning of life?
Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.

Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.

Desu Vult!
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>>91683094
Go for a run faggot
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>>91683094
>Why am I awake?
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
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>>91671851
I`ll never understand the crazy drifting tanks.
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>>91675938
No British steel company offered to do the work if I remember correctly.
Phillip Hammond was right, these lazy fucks need to wake up instead of just striking and whining.
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>>91683094
>Why aren't there any crumpets left?
26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
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>>91683094
Every day we venture further from God`s vision.
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>>91683094
>Why am I awake? >>91684653
>What is the meaning of life? >>91684315
>Why aren't there any crumpets left? >>91685234
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>>91685471
Very true statement.
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>>91670755
You literally make some of the best threads /brit/bro, i am always well informed of the UK when you post these threads
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>>91688152
Is this pic supposed to be sacrilegious? I saved it anyway.
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>>91671038

>Praise kek

You LARPing reddit faggots realise how fucking cringy that sounds, right?
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>>91672038
good picture. people can claim to be british too easily, just because they have a british passport but no actual british heritage.

i remember reading about an Afghan athlete who got asylum and a british passport, one day after getting citizenship she said she went outside and she felt british. like the word beauty, it has lost its meaning.
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>>91688677
I've been testifying mightily to God itt my dude.
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Can we get this thread back on track?
Brit/pol/ feels so dirty right now.
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>>91690370
I agree, I thank our Nazi friend for keeping the thread alive but now to the gas chambers with him.
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>>91691200
Deep into mental health for the last 20+ years having skipped physical health (spooky skelington) and looking to jump the ladder to 1488. You?
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>>91675938
>I don't give a fuck about socialism any more than Enoch or Hitler did.

Well considering Enochs entire political career was birthed from his deep desire to fight Socialism, and Hitler spent his breif pre-war career Implimenting Socialism, I would have to assume your quite passionate about it.
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>>91692141
Not at all. But I'd rather have RN submarines built with British steel, and there's only one way to achieve that.
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>>91691550
Just started on physical heath path hopefully then 1488.
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>>91692530
If a company or industry needs subsidy to survive, it shouldn't exist.

Your policy would either cause a rise in taxes or inflation
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>>91671903
Yeah, but fuck niggers because African government should look after them, not us.
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Morning lads,

What would yoi say is a patrician breakfast?
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>>91692726
If we can afford to pay France for steel, then we can afford a steel industry. We could literally produce steel cheaper than it would cost to pay France and build submarines for free. Steel production is a primary industry. It's literally what wealth creation is based on. Except we can't do any of that because of ideologues like you who are intent on globalising our economy and destroying our self-sufficiency. You don't have an economic case. You just want a small state for whatever reason that may seem rational to you and all other considerations are subordinate to that.
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>>91692726
I agree with you in general, but for things like this we should help subsidise British steel with priority on contracts, cheaper rates, lower taxes, cheaper energy prices. But I also think its should be part nationalised as well. If you keep all the money in one pot(Britain) its more likely to be reinvested into the economy than if the money went overseas
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>>91693360
Poached eggs and smoked salmon
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>>91693400
Or maybe you're a moron who dosent understand that Energy Costs cripple the steel industry in this country.

Learn some basic supply and demand, if it was cheaper (or as you say "free" top kek) to produce steel here then we would.
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morning britbongs
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>>91693719
Subsidising Tata steel for a full year costs the same as what we send to the EU every single week. You do not have an economic argument. Just admit you're an ideologue. You want to destroy our steel industry because you are brainwashed into an ideology. Don't pretend that you're any better than marxists.
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>>91693719
So if you created a nationalised steel, coal and energy industry this would negate that high costs of energy.
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>>91693919
Good morning!
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>>91693919
good moaning
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>>91693719
>>91694001
In fact it costs significantly less than weekly EU fees. Do you think we would benefit more from having a steel industry for a year? Or from being in the EU for a week?
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>>91694037
what's on the cards for today mates?
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>>91694234
>>91694104
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>>91694378
Going to call up the university about applying to study next year

What you got planned?
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>>91694491
my day's almost over mate. 5pm here. but soon my ex gf is gonna come around and pick up some stuff she left here, hopefully its not awkward
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>>91694642
>my day's almost over mate. 5pm here
Are you from the future or past?

>my ex gf
What happened m8?

>hopefully its not awkward
Greet her in pic related minus the undies
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>>91695022
>Greet her in pic related minus the undies
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>>91695022
the future m8

we broke up about 4 months ago because she couldn't handle me having vaguely conservative opinions. the last straw was me saying 'it's natural to assume people are gay if they act gay'. pretty fucked eh, but she's a nice person and i sort of miss the times i had with her, just heaps fuckin brainwashed by feminism and her poof mates. yeah maybe we'll root this arvo, probably not though
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Kek CTR is trying to make a Hillary general. Almost all the posts are Trump shills and spam. >>91691611 Finally they will learn how it feels.
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>strong beautiful woman has to prove to the evil Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter that the holocaust was real
>all she has to do is show evidence and she will instantly win
>doesn't show any evidence
>doesn't even bother taking the stand
>wins anyway because facts are antisemitic
Top wew.
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>>91671568
Communism is the abolition of the state and true freedom.
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>>91698216
Marx was an atheist.
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>>91697153
>evil Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter
lost it
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.Lads.

I'm in a weird kind of relationship with an Afro-Caribbean girl who looks a little like pic related.

Her Mum is Jamaican and her dad is half Jamaican, half English.

However, she's pro immigration control and she really adores me. She thinks my foot fetish is cute too.

Am I a degenerate?
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>>91698641
Wrong pic. LMFAO.
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>>91694234
Lectures 9am-6pm
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>>91698641
You posted this last night. Why do you care if a few shitposters on this Burmese paper mache enthusiast forum think it's degenerate?
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>>91670755
Ohayou gosimasu !!!!!
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Good morning lads.
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>>91698856
To bad the modern British "conservative" is more like this.
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>>91699015
KEK, made me choke on my Weetabix you bastard.
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>>91698720
>>91698641
Here are her feet.
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>>91699015
10/10 would remove
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>>91698641
>>91698720
Is this pasta now?
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>>91698344
Karl Marx spent several decades learning about how his race was persecuted, ghettoised, expelled and pogromed for 2,000 years by white Christians. He was then personally persecuted and expelled from the country he was born in by white Christians. Naturally this had no psychological effect on him whatsoever.

Then he coincidentally wrote an ideology that called for equality for jews and the destruction of Western civilisation and led to the deaths of tens of millions of white Christians. This movement was led almost exclusively by jews. Again, pure coincidence.
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>>91699166
post more
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Arguing on Twitter, it really is you against the world. Especially on British tags. Sometimes it can be hard to keep going when every time you post you get a bunch of lefties insulting you, thinking you're the devil simply for disagreeing, with rarely any support on your side.
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>>91670755
Well? What's she hiding?
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Lads.

I'm in a weird kind of relationship with an Jewish-Hungarian bloke who looks a little like pic related.

His Mum is Ashkenazi and his dad is half-Ashkenazi, half Hungarian.

However, he's pro immigration control and he really adores me. He thinks my antisemitism is cute too.

Am I a degenerate?
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>>91699877
Any screenshots for Brit/pol/ amusement?
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T H O U S A N D

Y E A R

T O R Y

R E I C H
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>>91700030
Are you a gurl?
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>>91700030
Not at all, I'd suck his toes.
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>>91700030
>>91700190
>>91700196
Here are his feet.
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>>91700030
Considering you're more than likely male yourself yes.
You should murder/suicide
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>>91700251
>POST MORE
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>>91670755
What's going on with UKIP currently lads, can anyone fill me in? BBC obviously isn't any help.
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>>91700332
Diana stood down after 18 days because she's a prick, are Nige has stepped back in as the interim leader. He says he won't stand in the next election.
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Where were you when Are Phil turned the UK in the Japan of the West?

The time of /comfyhightechpatriciancapitalism/ is now.
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>>91699566
Are you pretending Engels didn't do most of the work? They were communists in this country back in the 17th century
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>>91700441
Is he bullshitting or nah?
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PAKIS OUT

WAIFU POD GIRLS IN
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>ex gf came over
>all my feels came back once she left

anyone wanna shoot my fuckin head off lads?
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>>91700640
Did you pull the dressing gown trick?
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>>91700061
I had one guy who was swearing, throwing insults, said I need to do more research and then one tweet later claimed David Cameron was pro-brexit. He blocked me when I told him the truth.

Screenshots not on my phone tho so I cant post it until later
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>>91700543
Yes. But they were Christian and didn't get tens of millions of my Christian brothers murdered.
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>>91700690
nah
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>>91700640
Did you wear the silk rob and sun glasses? She wouldn't have left if you did
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>>91700609
I don't think so, I reckon he'll bow out as soon as a new leader is elected. I think he just really wants to see UKIP keep on trucking no matter what.

>>91700640
I'd stab you lad, but I had to bin that knife.
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>>91700737
That is where you failed.
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>>91700698
>cameron was pro-brexit
What a fucking plonker.
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>>91700815
>unending despair

i didnt know you could die from that lads
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>>91700990
>allegedly
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>>91701097
please stop posting her m8, i dont have a gf and its making me very sad
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Reddit
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>>91701354
bull prepper
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>>91701354
It's fucking hilarious on r/unitedkingdom at the moment.

There was a post last night saying something about how the Tory conference was held in a EU funded building, had they not thought who gave the EU the money in the first place?
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>>91701354
The cherry on the cake of brexit is we get rid of these people too.
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>>91701354
They're all a bunch of whiney faggots who when push comes to shove will do fuck all.
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Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
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>>91702017
A real gangsta ass nigga plays his cards right
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>>91702327
>that suit

fuckin balla
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Boiler's on the blink lads,

If I don't make it, I just want to thank you for memeing brexit into existence
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>>91702576
Do you know what's up with your boiler lad?
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>>91702576
Call british gas
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>>91700690
Tell me more about this dressing gown trick.
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>>91670755
>>IMF crowns UK world's fastest growing major economy, but hard Brexit fears push pound to 31-year low

Crowns?

The Bank of England dumped 300 billion into the markets after the economic shock of the Brexit vote, this money is filtering through. The new Chancellor has committed to investing in UK services and infrastructure - he's abandoned "austerity".

This is why the UK's outlook in GDP terms is looking good.

Unfortunately, our productivity is 20% behind the European average. A French worker produces more in four days than a British worker produces in five... And, the falling pound will stoke inflation, reducing wages in real terms in the longer run. This will impact GDP growth as demand is sucked out of the economy.

Stagflation is on the cards. Time to move to Germany.
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>>91702327
f a r a g e
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>>91702854
Bye!
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>>91701627

Germany? France?

Er...
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>>91702854
>UK is less productive than France and other EU basket cases like Spain and Greece

I find this hard to believe
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>>91702970
Mate that is literally a Komment-Macht-Frei-tier post.
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>>91703008
Our productivity is shit. The result of years of relying on mass immigration to fill shortages and packing everyone off to uni rather than investing in good technical education.

Hopefully the flipside to May's grammar schools will be god-tier tech schools.
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>>91703008
Its true for whatever reason our productivity is shite. I thinks its down to everyone is depressed living on a grey island in the Atlantic
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>>91703127

No mate.

Our productivity fell when we shifted to a low wage, zero hour economy in around 2010.

There's no need to lie about "immigration" on this issue. Save it for something important.

>Hopefully the flipside to May's grammar schools will be god-tier tech schools.

Er... it's apparent you have no idea what a grammer school is...

You're in for a shock, mate.
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>>91702970
Are you retarded?
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>>91671903
Equality is a futile goal.
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>>91672038
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>>91703381
>Er... it's apparent you have no idea what a grammer school is...

It's apparenty you have no idea what grammAr is :^)
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>>91703381
The problem is far older than one tory government.

Your comment on grammar schools makes no sense.
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>>91703409

Are France and Germnay not net contributors to the EU?
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>>91703008
It's true lad. Back in mid July we were the 16th most labour productive country in the world, behind every other European country except Spain and Italy. Not sure how much it's changed since then but I doubt it's changed too much. We can start improving soon though after we've unhooked ourself from the shite EU economic pool of stagnation. Insha'kek
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>>91703512

I'm an oldfag mate - I went to a grammar school. We still have one in my home town.
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>>91671327
>Tories have abandoned all remnants of Thatcher's free market avocation

She's weeping, lad
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>>91703518
>Your comment on grammar schools makes no sense.

The fact anon thinks grammar schools are "tech" anything, shows staggering ignorance.

Grammars are fast-track schools for the middle classes to send their kids to the best universities.

The problem with this is (as the British army found out to its cost) it leads to privileged mediocrity taking the best jobs. One thing we've learned is, privilege messes up efficiency and effective leadership.

Learn some history.
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>>91693719
>Energy Costs
And why are they so high? Come on, you fool no one.
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>>91703843
>Grammars are fast-track schools for the middle classes to send their kids to the best universities
And this is a bad thing how?
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>>91703984

You didn't finish reading.
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>>91703843
That's not what I said. The flip side to pushing the academically minded into specialist schools is that you have good non-academic education for those who can't/don't make it.

We aren't all equal, stop trying to force equality of outcome on us.
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>>91704027
But what's mediocre about smart children getting good degrees?
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oi any mad lads who wanna talk to some aussies about poofs feel free to participate in aus/pol/
>>>91702869

freedom of movement between commonwealth threads lads
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>>91703843
Also the middle classes can game the comprehensive system now by paying for tutoring to push little Tarquin into higher sets, and also by being able to afford to live near the best schools.
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>>91703850

We have high energy costs because our energy market has been stitched up by a handful of price fixing companies.

Energy profits made in Britiain are the highest in the World because the energy base costs are so low (due to zero taxation, mostly). The few taxes they do pay (like the EU green taxes) are given back as a rebate.

You won't see these facts in the Daily Mail, though.
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>>91703599
Dropping Thatcher's legacy is a good thing. She spawned Blair.
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>>91704111

A privileged medicore child isn't "smart", he's simply privileged.
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>>91704184

Indeed they do.

But, the comprehensive system is still open to all no matter what ability. Mixing classes (no pun intended) is good for social mobility.
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>>91704213
>You won't see these facts in the Daily Mail, though.

Where would I see them? (no sources)
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>>91704259
How can you be mediocre by going to a grammar school and a top university?
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>>91704259
seems like you're basing your entire opposition to grammar schools on the possibility some middle class (as if that means super wealthy or something) can get in because his/her parents can afford tutoring or something

This would likely make up a tiny a proportion of grammar school students.
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>>91704259
>muh privilege
If he's smarter than a poor kid then it doesn't much matter what caused that to be the case. The fact of the matter is he is smarter. We aren't born equal and we don't grow equally, stop kidding yourself.
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>>91704337
How does mixed ability classes help anyone, the brightest or those struggling?
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>>91704193
>not editing the description

bad meme lad
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>>91704340

Well, I suspect you'd reject any academic sources I gave you, so, how about a nice right wing, Tory supporting, source?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/23/energy-giant-profits-five-times-too-high/

Sorry it's a newspaper (UK media is the 2nd worst in the World), but, I suspect you'd reject anything else, out of hand.
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>>91703534
Think about it this way, I'll simplify it for you.

If me, you and three other anons put money in a kitty for lunch and someone decided how it's split and how I spent it, but I end up with less than what I put in would I say that you paid for my lunch? No, I'd still say that I did, but I still got a shittier lunch that one or two of the other fags eating with us.
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>>91704409

Do you know what a grammar school is?
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>>91704644
Yes, I went to one, in an area surrounded by them.
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Anyone else watching The Victoria Derbyshire show? It is 2 hours a day of SJW propaganda.
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>>91704610
>Well, I suspect you'd reject any academic sources I gave you

Why would you suspect that? Sounds like you got your fedora wedged on a bit tight today, maybe wind your ego back in just a tad.
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Day 8,658 without a gf, lads.
I just want to find love once in my life, holy fucking christ.

I'll be going to England soon. Do you think I'll I find what I'm looking for there?
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>>91704458
>seems like you're basing your entire opposition to grammar schools on the possibility some middle class (as if that means super wealthy or something) can get in because his/her parents can afford tutoring or something

It's a fact.

>This would likely make up a tiny a proportion of grammar school students.


Nope, it's the majority.

None of this is speculation. The debate is over. It was over 30 years ago. The Conservatives under Cameron opposed grammar schools - they don't work.
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>>91704465

Mate, this isn't 1970.

Go and read about grammar schools before you make a tit of yourself.
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>>91704477

Streaming.
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Lads.

I'm in a weird kind of relationship with an Turkish-English bloke who looks a little like pic related.

His Mum is English and his dad is half Turkish, half English.

However, he's pro Brexit and he really adores me. He thinks my patriotism is cute too.

Am I a degenerate?
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>>91704743
slags a plenty lad. You may catch the chlamydia though
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>>91704743
>>>/r9k/
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>>91704706

Then why are you asking ridiculous questions?
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>>91704823
Then they aren't mixed ability.
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>>91704884
forgot pic
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>>91704884
Please stop with this pasta
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>>91704518
Better?

>>91704884
Are you gay? desu Turks are just Muslim Greeks anyway
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>>91704739
>Why would you suspect that?

You'd accuse the source of liberal bias, or something.

Is the Telegraph okay for you?
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>>91704749
>Nope, it's the majority.
[citation needed]

>The debate is over
not an argument
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>>91704805
You've been saying that a lot but the fact you've yet to divulge this information you're supposedly privy to makes me think you're talking out your arse.

Also
>it's the current year
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>>91704948
>desu Turks are just Muslim Greeks anyway
lmao no they're not you idiot, they're mongrels but its not that simple
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>>91704956
>You'd accuse the source of liberal bias, or something.

Says who?
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>>91704900
Slags aren't gfs, anon. Or, they shouldn't be.

>>91704901
That's for people who have given up.
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>>91704749
>richer parents can afford tutoring to send their kids their
>implying tutoring doesnt make children smarter

Wouldn't you consider the fact that parents are so desperate to send their kids to Grammar schools, that they are willing to pay lots of money for this - evidence that grammar schools are in high demand, because they genuinely offer a better education? And there should probably be more of them to stop this competitiveness over places?

>grammar schools are bad because only rich kids can go there
>space travel is bad because only billionaires can afford it
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>>91704912

Yes they are.

Those in the lower bands have smaller class sizes and more intensive one on one tuition. They move freely between the bands as they improve, or fail.
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>>91705039

Logic and experience.
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the streets will flow with the blood of the middle class
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>>91704906
Humour me, and just answer the question.
In what world is a grammar school education, followed by getting a degree at a top university, "mediocre" ?
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>>91705126
Explain the logic.
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Ok a bunch of posters are obviously retarded, let me clear one thing up.

There are those who are unsure what direction Theresa May is taking the country, is she moving to the left or right? Or is she moving to the centre ground? The truth is she is moving steadfast to the centre ground but it has been move to the right by Brexit.

So while she is offering all this stuff conservatives have been asking for years, she's also paying lip service to the libtard wing in her party. That's it, she's not a closet fascist, she's not the third coming of Blair, she's still a centre ground Tory, but the surroundings of that centre ground has been changed.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/owen-jones-says-there-is-a-special-place-in-hell-for-amber-rudd-over-foreign-workers-lists_uk_57f539a9e4b012652681f257

How can you hate your own people so much
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>>91705144
Because look at the current climate of rich trust fund children because a bunch of entitled bleeding heart cockstains who squander everything and remain mediocre.

Look at any high management position filled by trust fund children.

They're shit at grafting because Silver spoones make mouths soft.
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>>91704337
No school really believes in mixed ability classes as far as I've seen. They all create classes by ability, or in the case of primary they split the class in to groups by the same metric.

Even then you can see the problems with mixed ability as students still fall behind and struggle to catch up and gifted students are held back and get bored and frustrated. Students who are doing better than others often curtail their own ability.
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>>91705275
PozLoad Owen doesn't believe in hell anyway
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>>91705275

he was pozzed long ago
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>>91705041
No its for people like you blog posting about how pathetic they are.
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>>91705071
>...evidence that grammar schools are in high demand, because they genuinely offer a better education?

Grammar school cream off the best students which skews their figures. They also attract a lot of middle class mediocre students who recieve intensive coaching throughout their schooling - thus propelling them to Oxbridge.

At Oxbridge, these kids usually scrape 2/2s, at best. But, due to the old boy network, they find themselves in top jobs before their 30s.

A friend of mine got a 3rd in classics from Jesus College Cambridge. By the time he was 25 he was working in insurance in the City of London earning over 100k...

Not bad for a duffer.
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>>91705243
She is strange

She says she wants to move the party to the centre but also blasts libertarians and people who dislike patriotism

Is this the 'third position' politics I've been hearing about?
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>>91705161

I present you a source.

You claim it is biased because of its origin, and thus unreliable.

This is not rocket science.
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>>91705456
And then they utterly fail at these jobs but are propped up by the old boys network.

I have to deal with them constant, they come in just under me and still talk down to be because "Oh his Yorkshire accent makes him common"

Also means I can beat the shit out of all the Oxbridge ponces.
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>>91705534
That's not a logical explanation, that's just you assuming you know a totally random stranger on the internet.
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>>91705071
It really terrifies me that, for the sake "equality", people genuinely believe we should prevent parents investing in their children's education or prevent children from being singled out for excellence.

We're a dying civilization if people are so insecure and so envious that they begrudge others' success. I even see it in my self sometimes but I put I put a stop to it as soon as possible because it's a disgusting attitude.
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>>91705628
>Also means I can beat the shit out of all the Oxbridge ponces
BEST COUNTY
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>>91705243
The Overton window has shifted, yes.
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>>91705649

The logic is fallacious, but it's still logic.
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>>91705699
No joke, I have done it before. It was a work social evening down at a Gastopub. Half of the management staff didn't show up because they were too posh for it, three of them did.

Drinks flow, one of them gets uppity, says he should have my job, I am partly drunk now, I say "take it then." He gets angry, says do you want to take it outside. I say yes.

We walk outside, he tries to take a sucker punch at me, I smash him in the gut and knee him in the face. He goes down, I go back to get another pint.
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>>91705326
That's not caused by them going to grammar school. It's caused by a poor curriculum, especially at college and University, and the institutionalised liberal bias.
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>>91705628
>I have to deal with them constant, they come in just under me and still talk down to be because "Oh his Yorkshire accent makes him common"

Yeah, I'm from that crowd and dislike most of them

Much more in common with working class as that's what my parents are

>mfw posh accent but hate posh people
>mfw working class think I'm suspect
>mfw stuck in limbo
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>>91705845
>I go back to get another pint.
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>>91705845
Can you stop making up stories to perpetuate the class war fantasy in your head, please. It's rather tiresome.

I could let you go on until it becomes really absurd and impossible to believe but you don't deserve to look quite that stupid; you've just gotten in over your head.
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>>91705663
>Get money from Daddy
>Get pushed through school by daddy
>Oh why are people so jealous.

Want to know why? Because a Hard working class family is fucked out of everything right now and no fucker ever wants to change that.

Used to be if you were a grafter, you could go out and become a sparky or a plumber, work as an apprentice, get some experience then go into your own, By age 40, you own your own firm and can retire by 45.

Nowadays, the entire system hates new business, It's hard to find decent experienced workers because all the apprenticeships have dried up in favor of half-baked academia and all the cheap foreign labor imported BY THE WEALTHY so they can undercut British labour make it close to impossible to progress.

The Class gap gets bigger and bigger, and it's not the Working classes fault is it?

It's the Ivory town milksops who grow weaker and weaker so need to punch down.

Nothing pisses off a Norman-blooded shithead more than meeting a Working class man who is smarter than him AND makes more money.
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>>91705895
Nobody likes self-hatred, it's a very diminishing trait.
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>>91705628
>And then they utterly fail at these jobs.

Indeed.

My friend was initially in IT produrement - he knew fuck all about the job, his six months in the role costs the company a fortune. He was kept on and "retrained".
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>>91706078
>B-But this commoner didn't REALLY beat up a proud southern dandy.

Take it as you will, at the end of the day, I have never met an Oxbridge or Upper class person who wasn't a huge downtalking cunt.

Never met one who can punch straight either.
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>>91706150
I know who I am, don't hate myself at all, it's just there's a disconnect between how people perceive me at first and who I really am. Once they actually get to know me it's all good
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>>91706154
My dad worked in a factory as a mechanic, soon as retirement age comes around, all the managers leave, ones who became managers because they knew the machines.

New Management comes in, don't know the machines, waste money on trying to fit Japanese built automation parts on 90 year old English made Pin Lathes.

As typical, the Japanese parts break down, the English machines still make pins perfectly.
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>>91706217
It's not your fault.

It's the Oscar Wilde mentality. It's perfectly manifested itself with all the hyper liberal shit and I'm glad to see them all be fuckups.
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I hope all the foreign workers from the NSH leave the country and just let that shit collapse.
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>>91706078
He's right though, posh people can't fight worth shit. Unless they're forwards but there are fewer and fewer posh forwards, the posh ones go into the backs and they get scholarship plebs to play in the pack instead
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>>91702576
mechanical failures don't fix themselves. get it fixed now before it causes more problems and before you really need it to work.

i hope you've more than £100 in the bank lad
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Lads

Recruiter fag here. Sent over a sub par candidate over last month to a client. Slated her, then hired her cos shes a black woman. Am I part of the problem?
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>>91706549
>posh people can't fight

This is bollocks, the first SAS commando group was made up of mostly boys from posh backgrounds.
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>>91706122
You're right to some degree but you've taken it to an absurd extreme. Rather than trying to improve that situation you're lashing out at everything around you like a complete oaf. I don't see how there not being enough plucky, young, working class Brits in trades is reason to deny academically gifted young Brits more chances to fulfill their potential.

I actually feel particular disdain for the current attitude that university is the only worthwhile path in life. Colleges do a piss poor job of presenting any career path other than university despite their being a great deal of apprenticeships and others available. People are taking on pointless debt which will never be paid back to develop a shitty work ethic and undue sense of entitlement.
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>>91706502

Mate, that's the way it's heading.

It's a shame, in 2014 the UK had the World's most efficient health service. One year of Tory year and it's nearly broken.
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>>91706620
>70 years later they've been almost completely replaced by plebs
rlly meks u fink
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>>91706502
That's exactly what the end game is for the tories m8.
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>>91706615
apparently so.
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>>91706676
>>91706728
the magic of the free market will solve all your problems. just look how good it did to your public transport. most efficient in the world.
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>>91706481

>It's the Oscar Wilde mentality
explain
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>>91706502
Fingers crossed. Hopefully its completely privatised in the next 10 years
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there is genuinely something wrong with you if you don't support this man
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>>91706819
>just look how good it did to your public transport. most efficient in the world.
How was your last pick pocketing trip to London?
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>>91706819
>the magic of the free market will solve all your problems. just look how good it did to your public transport. most efficient in the world.

Hehe

Yeah, mate. Our transport system is the most expensive in Europe, and one of the most unreliable. did I forget to mention the potholes?
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>>91706217
>I'm from that crowd
>I hate them
It's your problem, you just don't realise it. Accept who you are but don't be a cunt, that's all anyone asks. What people from any social class particular despise is someone who tries to deny their own.
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>>91670755
Wow so /pol/ thinks it's okay for British soldiers to beat and kill civilians (as they have done in the past) when they please?

https://mobile.twitter.com/crimesofbrits/status/783701879477919744
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>>91706931
that's the price to pay to be free m8.

hope they also introduce a flat income tax and increase the sales tax for foreign products.
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>>91706502
Let's hope so. The sacred cow needs to die so we can move on and find ourselves one that actually produces milk.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/564dk4/serious_does_anyone_feel_the_uk_has_turned_much/

>Most of them got their "true opinions" only in the last years, from internet echo chambers they got trapped in. Places like /pol/. Everybody there speaks the same cult language, maintains the same emotionally loaded opinions, and the same hatred against the outsiders that ridicule them. In these safe space bubbles they don't have to tolerate any cognitive dissonance or dissent, they can rage freely, undisturbed by common sense. Whatever they do, there's always the peer group that enthusiastically nods it through, plus the mods and admins that silence everyone who makes fun of it. That's where both the "true opinions" and the "bravery" are produced on an industrial scale. They have no idea how idiotic they look to the rest of us. They have no sane reference."

what did he mean by this?
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>>91706987

hehe

I wouldn't want to live in a "society" like that. I'm moving soon, anyway. Germany or Denmark.
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>>91706819
>Romanian tries to shit talk a developed country's infrastructure
Adorable
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>>91706549
I wasn't really doubting that specific element, more the entire scenario.

It's not of much importance if it's all bullshit or not though.
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>>91707029

Mate, /pol/ is a right wing hug-box. There's no "truth" here.
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WE ARE THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS!!!!!
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>>91706949
You might be right, I should embrace it

Stop talking to me low class scum
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>>91706615
>recruiter
I'm not reading on. Yes, you're the problem.
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>>91707029
>internet echo chambers
>reddit
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>>91707029
>I'm better than you because me and my internet friends say so
What a faggot, he's more deluded than the neo-nazi my little pony fags here. At least in this shithole, you can shit post about whatever and it doesn't get deleted because it hurts someone's feefees.
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>>91707140
Stoned already aquafresh?!
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>>91707029
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>>91707071
what you did here is one of those logical fallacies.

also, not an argument. it can't be left to your feeble brain to decide who can criticize your country. you seem to be a fucking retard so you might as well think no other country in the world if fit to say anything bad about the UK, therefore anything anyone says is invalid, in your mind.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-37567866

thoughts?
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>>91707273

I like it here because I get to stress test my opinions. I don't mind if someone tramples my beliefs into the ground with facts and evidence - yes, it smarts a bit, but it hones my argument.

Since I began visiting /new/ and later /pol/ no one can touch me in a pub political slanging match.

I'm on the left, btw.
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Can some1 post the JRM "what women think men wants" downing st image pls
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Who /shilling for the Lib Dems on Reddit/ here? I've got multiple people on r/unitedkingdom saying they're actually gonna vote for Farron's meme party. Thousand year Tory Reich here we come.
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>>91707029
Is this supposed to be an explaination for the political climate in the UK?

Because I'm pretty sure my parents and grandparents don't browse /pol/ and they feel much the same way as I do about many thing these days.
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>>91707148
>deflecting with "humour"
You know I'm right. You're entirely capable of getting along with people of different strata without trying to act like them and be one of them. Whether they know it or not people have a healthy respect for social boundaries and therefore respects others who also do. Stop trying to banter with the lads on their level if you aren't, it makes you look a twat.

You're supposed to learn this growing up, it's supposed to be sub-conscious. I guess your parent's failed to properly socialise you.
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b-bbbbobmbber harrisss harriss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB8FCye08g8
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>tfw on my break
>tfw a wageslave now
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>>91707412
It's too hard to find objective information.

At least some shithole up north will be a good test run. Don't ruin the glorious southwest countryside with little drilling hubs, and whatever else fracking will bring.
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>>91707392
I'll accept criticism from almost anyone, just so long as they aren't Romanian.
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>>91707620
KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS!!!
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>>91707412

Good thing, hope it gets done in Cheshire as well.
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>>91707392
>logical fallacy
Nice assumption. It would be fallacious if it was intended to address your 'argument'. It wasn't, I was just commenting on the irony of someone from a postcommunist shithole whose global achievements include increasing per capita petty crimes and ATM thefts thinking he has any business criticising a country his people flock to in droves.
Now piss off out of brit/pol/

>>91707487
Out of interest, what do you consider the most fundamental natural right
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>>91707758
fuck off pal, cheshire is glorious
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Lads, anyone else going to meme for Raheem?
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>>91707412
>nuclear expansion
>fracking
Self sufficient domestic energy production by 2030 desu
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>>91707801

I agree lad its glorious but do you want to have a warm home or gas to cook your food on in a few years or do you want to buy it off some madman in the Middle East. With shale gas it will help keep Stanlow Refinery in operation for longer and expand the chemical industry in Ellesmere Port.

All the negative stories are from what happened in America on some occasions over 15 years ago when they first started. With proper regulation it can be done safely and effectively to the benefit of the local area and our national energy security.
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>>91707941
Because fuck niggers.
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>>91707813
Nah Raheem is a top lad but he won't take northern votes from Labour
Woolfe will, even if he does want May's cock down his throat
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>>91707579
I was being honest when I said you might be right, but I'm not gonna defend myself on here from all the assumptions you made about me.

Like I said earlier, I know who I am. Since I'm surrounded with libcucks I forge my own path. That's it.
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>>91708068
Woolfe and Raheem will both fail to take the North. They are too lolbertarian.

t. Northerner
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>>91707534
>>91707534
>>91707534
>>91707534
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>>91707941
Lol, a fucking Dutch person?

Any chance to get some victimhood they'll take
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>SOME MAKE A NEW THREAD
>SOME MAKE A NEW THREAD
>SOME MAKE A NEW THREAD
>SOME MAKE A NEW THREAD
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>>91708068
I like them both, if it ends up a 2 horse race I'd be happy with either winning.
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>>91708235
Gotta go back to work now, so not me.
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>>91707941
Would enrich with my BIG BRITISH COCK
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>>91707941

lmao this is her "business"
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>>91708449
>>91708170
>>91707941
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>>91707779
>Out of interest, what do you consider the most fundamental natural right

Natural right?

All rights are human constructs. They are achieved through consensus.

A man sitting alone on a desert island will find nature does not respect his "natural rights".
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>>91708449
That's barely even enough to be consider a stall.
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>>91708068
Wouldn't be surpirsed to see Raheem drop out and accept a depty position with one of the others, propably Woolfe.

Woolfe/Kassam would be one hell of a ticket.
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>>91708449
Jesus fucking Christ
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>>91708584
A leftie who doesn't believe in natural rights?

What are you, some kind of abolition-of-state communist?
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>>91708449
well done anon
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Going to get a bible lads, never been religious.

Which kind should I get?
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>>91708801
>>91708801
>>91708801
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>>91708811
King James bible or you're not British
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>>91708768
>A leftie who doesn't believe in natural rights?

I don't think you know what a "natural right", nor, a "leftie" is...

"Natural rights" are to be found on the right wing of the political spectrum. The United Nation's human rights laws, and the European Unions human rights legislation was the creation of Winston Churchill.
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>>91708449

thats something your nan might do as a hobby

not a fucking business
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>>91709083
I'm struggling to see how you can justify economic intervention, wherever on the spectrum of 'welfare' to 'wealth redistribution' you fall, without believing people have some sort of right to the property or labour of others
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>>91709686

Enlightened self interest is the root of wealth redistribution.

In the mid 19th Century the upper classes discovered theur class status didn't protect them against catching typhoid. Regulation of sewage and water sources did. This cost money to impliment which was paid for out of general taxation.

The result benefited everyone. Rich and poor.

Understand?
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>>91709943
Mutual self interest manifests itself as charity. As soon as you make contribution mandatory, it's no longer self interest but compulsion by threat of force.
I understand what you're saying, I just think you're conflating giving freely of oneself because doing so benefits you and the people you care about with having your property redistributed for the benefit of others.
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>>91710212
>Mutual self interest manifests itself as charity.

Nope.

History shows it doesn't. That's why the state was asked to step in by the rich to protect them against the diseases resulting from urbanization.

Charity (which was widespread in the 19th Century) failed to deliver.

>it's no longer self interest but compulsion by threat of force...

You appear to be presnting a moral argument against the use of coercion by the state.

You'll find few on the left who will disagree with you.
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>>91710498
>You appear to be presnting a moral argument against the use of coercion by the state.
>
>You'll find few on the left who will disagree with you.
And yet you're openly advocating for it, even in your example the state is lobbied by a wealthy elite to redistribute the property of others

Its success is praiseworthy but ultimately irrelevant as you're still suggesting the state be given the power to forcibly take the property of its citizens and use it to ends it deems worthy, and I doubt you'll find any further examples of such action that are so universally positive.

Even in everyone's favourite NHS, the rich and the healthy pay so that the poor and the irresponsible don't have to. I fail to see how anyone benefits from their taxes going towards keeping unemployed pack-a-day diabetics alive, which is a problem any collectivist has to address
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>>91710983
>And yet you're openly advocating for it...

Where?

I haven't "advocated" anything.

A leftist believes the rich are only rich through the ill gotten gains of statist largess. Their wealth is illigitimate in the first place.

This is also a Libertarian position.

As for the rest of your post: it is based on an erroneous inference.
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>>91711222
If you're not advocating the lobbying of the state to use forcibly claimed wealth for public projects, why on earth are you using sewers as an example of it working?

>A leftist believes the rich are only rich through the ill gotten gains of statist largess. Their wealth is illigitimate in the first place.

>This is also a Libertarian position.
What on earth are you on about
Are you suggesting some form of 'anarcho communism'? You're going to have to define your position, you seem to be saying one thing and claiming to believe another

>As for the rest of your post: it is based on an erroneous inference.
No, it's based on what you said. As above, you're going to have to define your position rather than justifying one and then claiming you're arguing from another
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>>91711525
>If you're not advocating the lobbying of the state to use forcibly claimed wealth...

I was giving you a history lesson.

The state is an invention of the rich to protect themselves from each other and the "unwashed massess".

>What on earth are you on about

Rothbard argued for the seizing of unproductive property by "homesteaders" when the original owner acquired the property through statist means.

>No, it's based on what you said. As above...

No, you appear to have projected your own interpretation while ignoring what I actually said.
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>>91711828
Explain how you are a 'leftist' if you do not believe in wealth redistribution by the state, or state action to intervene in causes it deems worthy
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