KGT // Knife General Thread

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Sharpen you're knife and start fires at the same time!

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>>873949
What do you think about kukris /out/?

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They're ok.

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>>873958
I enjoy mine, it's fun for shits and giggles.

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>going to Japan for a year
>can't bring anything with a blade over 6 inches

Fucking sucks man. At least I can buy one of these when I get there, since they're apparently not counted as a blade.

>>873951
I got that "kit" as a door give away. it surprisingly not bad once you replace the nylon string handle with 550.

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>>873949

maybe someone here can chime in on this...

currently working with a carbon blank, and I want to protect some areas that have been sanded...I was just going to brush on some polyurethane

would nail polish (or something else) be a better option?

>>874246
Will that be easy to get off? I was thinkin something like plasti-dip for cars where you can peel it off easily. Even latex house paint would be easy if you don't want to grind it off or use tons of chemicals to remove it.

>>874247
that was kind of the point

I don't want it to come off, it is meant to keep the areas without a factory coating (it feels like there is something on it) from rusting

it will be on the sides of the handle and under the scales.....I know nail polish can be used for etching/whatnot but I didn't want it to end up cracking/flaking; afaik never had that happen with poly

>>874249
Oh nvm, I thought you wanted to temporarily cover a finished part up while you work on another part of it.

What the hell do the big companies use? I was thinking something like automotive primer. Something that can flex a little bit if needed without cracking. But since it will be under the scales, I wouldn't overthink it as long as it sticks to the metal.

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>>873961
More Condor.

Sapians. Best /out/ knife.

Anyone of some good Condor Bushlore custom casts with a leather ferro rod holder?

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>>874529
> wut?

More Condor.

>>874536

Sheaths*... I have no idea where 'casts' came from. Retarded fingers I guess.

>>873968
It only takes 4 inches to hit the human heart. 5 inches is extra insurance. +1 accuracy

>>874246

Get yourself some cerakote.
Tape off the area you don't want exposed.
Spray that shit on.
Let it cure for a few weeks, the longer the better.

Stuff is durable as fuck, you can get some sweet colors. A lot of knife companies use it too. Also works great on fire arms.

Now youtube that shit.

>>874542
m8

I don't want to kill anyone, but I do appreciate the utility and versatility of a machete.

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>>874537
Got it.

EBay Skystorm Leather (works?).

Nice quality. Pic related "Slim Jim" cross carry Companion.

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>>874676

>>874676

What the fuck do you use that hunk of shit for?

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>>874677
They had what you want for my BK II, but I chose this and like.

>>874679
> yo mama

Thank you Capt. Obvious.

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God damn it choosing my first big boy knife is hard.

Is ESEE 4 the answer?

I currently carry a folding saw, a leatherman and a mora. The mora is great, and I dont need to upgrade. Except i want to because I'm like a bitch looking at shoes.

ESEE 4 right? Right?

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>>874688
Esee 3 or 4 with the new handle are the general purpose Esee's I would chose, or the JG3 possibly.

>>874020

holy crap that handle looks bad (ie. poorly designed).

>>874689

I don't have one (bacause I use a JX2), but I've always said the new esee 3 and 4 are fucking brilliant.

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M95 ranger knife has some good reviews.

15 cm (6 in.) blade with 5 mm (about 1/5 in.) thickness.

It's a good general purpose knife and while it's not a pure chopper or a whittling knife, it can take plenty of punishment from batoning etc.

Mora on steroids, basically.

>>874671
>Let it cure for a few weeks
yikes

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>>874886

That's life, some times you gotta wait for stuff for it to have the best results. You can't have it right then all the time. If you're not gonna follow instructions on the product, in order to get the best results, than go and just use regular spray paint, that's how the finish will hold up if not let to cure. All the knife companies do the same shit when they use their coatings, even coatings that are not Cerakoted still have a curing time.

You're prob one of those ppl who don't even let their steaks rest, instead just tear into it after it's done cooking.

Damn savage.


>>874688
you'll be happy with any product you go with. My two go to is the esee 6 with the esee candiru (With after market scales) for my two /out/ knives.

Esee Izula 1 for my edc knife.
Esee 5 for my car survival kit.
Esee 4 on my plate carrier.
The esee Junglas due it being cool.


>>874689 The sheath sucks though. The stock ones for the reg 3 and 4 had much better retention, you don't got to worry about treating the leather like you have to with the new one. Also a shit ton more carry options with the older ones. Plus I prefer tekloks, would not be able to use one on the new 3 and 4.

Biggest thing I dislike the about the new sheath, is big ass Esee written down it.

The handles on the new one feel much better though.

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>>874689
Wow didn't know they changed it. I'm not sure which aesthetic i like more... I can't find a comparo. Is there any real change to steel or anything, or is it just a ergonomic/aesthetic change?

>>874901
>you'll be happy with any product you go with.
Yeah that's the problem! So many handsome knives out there that are all more than enough for my needs. That's the reason I've had the same mora for 4 years and never bought something else, even though I've always wanted to.

Right now I'm leaning toward the Enzo trapper. I love the classic style and wood handle

I especially like full scandi grinds, literally only because they are easier to sharpen. I'm not enough of a knife guy to really tell the difference in grinds otherwise tdh

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>>875068
desu*

Also... fuck my neurotic bitch of a mind. I seriously was SO decided on a kabar bk10 crewman for like a year, just never got around to buying it.
I now decide it's finally time, look at it one more time and suddenly feel like it's just too big and mil spec for me.

I am overthinking this.

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>>874901
>>875068
This is why I hate knife fag threads, too much gay ass blabber.

> mfw img bbs

>>875068
Just an ergo change really and IMO a far better general purpose design.

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Don't really see the point in bringing a fixed blade since I bring a hatchet.

These are my favourite knives right now for camping.

I like the manix 2 for winter camping because I find the CTS BD1 will not rust at all.

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>>875073
I've had the bk16 in my wishlist for quite a while myself. Just found out that this thing called the KLAX exists and I'm not sure there is a point to having a full size knife anymore. My keychain pocket knife and the KLAX should cover all that I need to do outdoors quite effectively. My mind is torn.

>>875294
goddamn that looks like some hot garbage

>>875294
Holy shit

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>>875294

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>>875314

get on my level

>>875294
That thing is $150 and stainless steel. apparently it's won awards.

It can't be that good, can it?

>>873968
>Japan
>knife stuff

Let me introduce you to virtuovice:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZLaWayFxnhCAoCWqASKeDQ

This is the best youtube channel on outdoor knives and knife use in Japan.

>>875294
>>875361

garbage

>>875181
Cool knives you obviously never use.

Hey guys, check out this guy who bought a knife to look at.

>>875372

Knife collecting is a thing, you know

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>>875400
And it doesn't belong on /out/
>>>/k/
>>>/b/
>>>/r9k/

>>874901
How do you carry your edc fixed blade? I'm thinking about nabbing a 3 and 6 for camping, but I'm not sure of an efficient way to carry both.

>>875406

Pot calling the kettle black

>>>/ck/

my 2 favorite /out/ knives are a schrade sharpfinger (USA made) or a ontario 499 survival knife (custom grind)
close to those 2 are a condor hudson bay or my Bark river highlands special in a2 steel

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>>875496
I would catch more shit there than I do here.

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>>874885
Muh sissipuukko

Best piece of steel and plastic alloy I have bought

>>873949
>My capitalist consumer blood is telling me that it can't be good because it's only $39... right?

I have a couple of his knives and you will probably quickly understand why they are so cheap. Some people seem to like them though. I think they are priced roughly appropriately and not super great.

>>873951
lol XD keep doing this joke it is very funny
>>875294
pls be bait, just get a normal hatchet

>>875400
And that thing belongs on /k/

>>875800
> i hate camel bone scales

Most gay.

>>875406
I have never witnessed such gross abuse of a knife as i have on your picture, i hope Cuck River Kunt Tits sue you

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>>873949
got a bunch of these for about $40 on sale, great knives.

>>873949

The mora is a better knife. It wouldn't be an upgrade.

I have a bunch of knives and that jeff white shit is garbage. Their grind is uneven and their secondary geometry is all fucked up. It's profiled like a kitchen knife to save cost but this means there's nothing between your fingers and a live edge. You get what you pay for

I got my mora's for under $20. I'm not going to spend twice as much for a shittier knife.

You want a good knife, avoid the mass produced stuff. They typically dumb down their knives too much anyways. The right handmade knife will blow a mass produced knife away in comparison tests every time.

Mora's are a fucking miracle for the price. I don't know how they do it.

>>874688

Esee's are a great knife for people that hate edge retention. 1095 at 55RHC 3/16 or 1/4 inch thick is like a corvette with flat tires. It's so fucking retarded it makes my head hurt.

Probably a pretty good $150 mini-crowbar.

>>874671

Cerakote is a bake on product, dumbass.

>>875294

Make sure you get the titanium version so you can have a $600 blade that can't cut more than 2 strips of cardboard before it needs to be resharpened.

FFS, that product is a stupid test. A fool and his money are easily parted.

anyone with a Bushlore care to post pics of the sheath?

>>876373

They are survival knives. Resistance to gross edge damage and ease of sharpening are prioritized well above edge retention for that use case.

>>876572

No son, you only use titanium when you can't use steel or when you want to anodize it to make it colorful.

Go try it. You'll find out. Take that POS into the bush and if you live you'll understand I was right.

Good folding everyday knife?

I had an old Sheffield(sp?) knife, the pocket clip thingy broke off, so its useless to me.

I primarily use it to open boxes, pick at things, clean under my nails, cut zip ties, and other packaging material.

Slimmer, the better. I keep this in my dress pants for work.

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>>876684
if using it for junk tasks, use a utility knife

$5 or less from sears when they're on sale, probably the slimmest one I've owned but it's compact and pretty solid

>>875073
It is. It's fucking massive and you'll have serious buyer's remorse immediately upon its arrival.

t. a guy who bought a bk10

That said, I've grown to accept my mini machete for what it is over the past year or so and I did have a decent bit of fun externally mounting it to my bug-out bag with an orange shoelace.

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>>876687
I would prefer something more pleasing, and decent quality.

>>876696
In fact, thinking more on it, maybe a bk10 is exactly what I need here in florida. Most parts are more jungle than forest but not quite on the level of needing a dedicated bushwhacker.

Maybe I should get a kukr--OH GOD WHAT AM I SAYING.

>>876697
exactly what fiscal level of quality is required for cutting boxes?

I'm pretty sure they don't know the difference

knife for $5, 100pk of blades, which can be used on both sides, for $10...can't beat that

>>876687
Is that a folding boxcutter? For what purpose?

>>876701
Because its also my everyday carry, and I dont want to carry some cheapo plastic handle knife,or a box cutter.

>>876705
>utility knife

>open boxes
>cut zip ties
>packaging material

>>876706
you didn't answer the question

and no, it's not plastic (lightweight metal, likely aluminum)...just because it doesn't have someone's initials engraved on it doesn't mean it isn't well made, durable, or more than adequate for the uses it is intended for

>>876708
Yeah, but why not just use a normal boxcutter?

Why fold.

>>876710
by "normal boxcutter" you mean a slide-y one with a small retracting blade?

oddly enough I have tried to find those, but no one seems to sell them anymore....anywho, the one I posted works well and feels pretty nice in the hand, size wise

easier to open than the standard thumb-push-slide ones that can be a complete pain sometimes, plus it's lighter and has a pocket clip

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>>876697
Every bit the knife that a Sebenza small is, 1/2 the price.

>>874689
mah nig, esee 6 over here would have gone 5 but needed bigger for fuckoff blade aus wood

>>876710
because I want a folding knife?

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Personal fave. Cheap, sturdy, reliable. The blade's heavy and can take a beating. Comfortable in the hand and just a good tool with a very reasonable price point

>>876664

The post I quoted was talking about ESEE's toughness focussed HT of 1095, not to that hilarious joke of a hatchet.

>>875294
Excellent multitool. Hitting all the requierments!

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>>876705
I like the folding box cutters. They are smaller than the long ones and if you cut a lot of tape and shit, the retractable ones get all clogged up with shit

>>876861
That's because you're a faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuEsy75KMN4

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>>876868
>that's because you work instead of enjoying that sweet, sweet NEET status
I can't trust anybody who wears a digital watch

>>876899

Knife collections are not /out/

>>>/k/

>>876905
4u

>>>/k/31695818

>>876861
>Posts in knife threads
>Uses garbage disposable blades in box cutters to do actual cutting work.

Why do you even own knives then? To finger fuck? Just stick to your shitty box openers if you can't be bothered to a really fucking use your knives for anything.

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>>876928
When you have a job where you work around normie customers all day, you can't be pulling out the tacticool 5" fixed blade.

I got Old Faithful and Jr right here

>>876861
I never cared for the frame lock on those...

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>>877113
Idk, this thing has been in my pocket daily for close to 3 years and works fine. It's just a box cutter so the thing would probably be fine without a lock. And it's easy one hand operation when I'n trying to do other stuff at the same time.

>>876930
>implying

I worked at a fast food joint, and used a shitty fixed blade knife for breaking things down. It was well past its years, so i wasnt really doing it any harm.

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>>877274
At least you are behind the counter and shit with that. I thought about bringing a real knoife with me but I know I will eventually have a problem from some cunt complaining that I'm carrying a weapon around.

I'm not even supposed to have a box cutter like that. They give out pic related but fuck those things and I would have to ask daily for 3 months before they ever come up with one.

>>877278
>that pic

Absolutely worthless. Depending on the brand, those can have troubles cutting plastic bags. Total shit design.

>>877278
That's like the shit they have to use on lots of minesites in Australia, makes me laugh.

>>877323
Yeah I never even asked for one. Plus they are too large to put in your pocket. Maybe you could have it hanging out of your back pocket, but we're in and out of trucks all day so it would suck sitting on the thing and it would probably fall out. One dude used a carabiner to hang it off his belt loop.

And the only thing they are really useful for is cutting shrink wrap on pallets. The packaging on cases of soda is too inconsistent so you can't always get that little hook thing around it. But they give those to people so they don't slice open their hand or bottles. I purposely leave a somewhat dull blade on my box cutter because whenever I put a fresh one on I end up cutting up my fingers the first few days since I'm always working so fast.

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>>873949
is that a custom run knife or something?
so I may fail the stupid test by asking this, but...
is the buck 119 with the leather belt sheath worth the money? or should i just get a mora hd and call it a day?
I know that most knife stuff is marketing bullshit, but I also know how true buy once cry once is.
Is the buck 119 good for an all purpose belt knife in the outdoors? or good enough? I love how nice they look, people pass them down to their kids and shit.

>>877485

The mora is slightly less rust resistant but holds an edge better. Personally, I fucking hate Buck's 420HC that they put on all their budget knives. It's just crap.

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>>877502
but it's so pretty -_-
I don't even dislike the moras but I hate the mora sheath i just want a nice looking dependable knife that doesn't break and isn't "le ultimate survivor" tryhard knife bullshit fad
hmmm
do you think the bushcraft black would be worth the money? it seems like a meme knife

>>877504

Just get a bk7

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>>877504
it's a good knife.

My main gripe with a buck 119 is that it doesn't really know what it wants to be - a combat knife or a hunting/woods knife.

If you want a general purpose knife, look for something like pic related.

>>877510

whoa! easy there, Rambo.

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>>877512

is... becker meme tier?..

>>877504

I bought 6 SS mora companions for about $15.75 a piece and just handed them out to my family. My kids do a lot with scouts and our family did a lot of camping and exploring the rockies this summer and the mora's were terrific.

I have a buck 112 folder (the one with the finger grooves.) and it's great in every way except edge retention. My wife bought it for me as a gift so I use it, but fuck if I'm not sharpening that thing all time.

The mora isn't going to top the field in any category. It's a budget knife. But, imho, it's the absolute best budget knife on the market and it hits way above it's weight range in value.

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>>877510
no that is what a hatchet/tomahawk/camp saw is for. Do you know how much of a pain in the ass it would be to gut and skin shit with that machete? At least it's remotely possible with the buck and the mora o.o
I gutted squirrels before but im probably gonna try to gut durr this year
>>877511
I have a crkt m16z that is convenient but the steel sucks at holding an edge compared literally every other knife I own sadly.
>>877512
lmao exactly, pluss i don't like how they word their lifetime warranty on their website... lifetime warranty UNLESS a million things happen to it in which case fuck off
>>877516
yeah but i just feel like i'm gonna buy it and still want a nice leather holster for it and then i'm spending almost as much as if i just got the freakin buck 119, buy once cry once...
I can get a mora heavy duty carbon steel for like 6 dollars after my prime pantry rewards I may just buy the damn thing for that cheap.
so the buck 119 steel is garbage? -_-

>>877520

If it says 420HC on the box, don't buy it. They don't use that steel because it's good, they use it because it's cheap.

Buck build quality is very high, but they do it using budget steel. They look great, they feel great, but they don't perform great.

They have other steel offerings like sandvik (same or similar as mora) on some filleting knives and S30V on some top end knives. But 420HC. That shit's garbage.

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>>877522
so basically, I can't afford a nice buck belt knife for $50 and I should just buy the mora hd companion in carbon steel and be happy?

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Thoughts?

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>>877514

kind of.

The BK7 used to be popular in the prepper community for being relatively inexpensive and very robust (also - large), but, thankfuly, the current trend is towards much more sensible, 1/8'' thick, 4'' blades.

The most extreme example of "overbuilt almost to the point of uselesness" is the BK2 (pic related: BK2 side-by-side with a Helle Temagami).

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>>876684
KA-BAR Dozier Folding Hunter. Slim & durable. I've had mine for over a year, used it for the same tasks you listed, and is still sharp with no blade play. The one thing you may want to watch out for is the little pin that holds the locking bar in place. On my knife, it's sticking out a bit on one side (can't remember if it came that way or got that way from use). It hasn't affected the function in any way that I've noticed, just snags on the threads in my pocket from time to time. Only $20

>>876258
I love the rat. I have rat 1 that i abuse and it takes it like a champ.

I figured I'd break it for how poorly i treat it, so i bought a second. The second just collects dust cause the first refuses to quit.

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Did I fuck up?

>>877952
you may have payed a bit more than necessary, but it's a good knife

>>877958
*paid

>>877958
>>877959
You think so? Some knifes cost a lot of money. I think it might be worth it if it is sharp, and durable.

>>877967
knives

and regular price is about $38 according to tracktor...it is worth it, but if you can save a few bucks by waiting little while, might as well

>>877974
You're totally right. What is that tracktor that you mentioned?

>>878006
https://thetracktor.com/

>>877533
>but, thankfuly, the current trend is towards much more sensible
>We need common sense knife control
Your football mom attitude is showing.

>>878018
>We need common sense

Ftfy, unless it's a foot long 1/4 thick is retarded

>>876868
This is the funniest thing I've ever fucking seen

>>878018
Right tool for the right job fuckwit. Do you hunt rabbits with a .50cal?

>>878006
>>878010
tractor*

>>876868
>>878062

This guy is funny as fuck, man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzpBLZF5p44

>>878010
>>878163
So they basically just sell cheaper shit?

>>878163
no, tracktor

>>878180
wat

it's an amazon price tracker

>>878380
Oh nevermind

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Any info on this knife/sheath?

I know the knife is a marttiini (it's etched in the blade), but i can't find a similar model anywhere or anything on the jokkmokk sheath.

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finally finished it

working on #2

>>878610
What are those pins/rivets you used to hold the handle on? You got a pic before you installed them?

>>878633
they are chicago screws

at least for a first attempt, I want the ability to replace the handles in the event I find a way to screw them up...vs having to cut off pins, grind it clean, and drill out the holes

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>>878657
Oh alright. I had a figure there might be some kind of screw or hex head on the other side since most people don't want the handles permanently fixed to it.

>>878663
there are flatheads on there at the moment, and I was able to countersink them slightly so the tops are just a bit above the surface

I didn't check the thread size yet, but the hardware store might carry similar ones that could sit completely flush

I'll have to look next time....I originally tried to use some store bought ones that were aluminum (I should have known better) and they were complete crap

many lessons learned

>>878675
Yeah aluminum just cracks too easily. Flatheads are nice because you can improvise if needed but I would personally put hex keys or torx on there since they don't get stripped and fucked up as easily.

Somebody on /k/ was posting their collection of super expensive tacticool switchblades (something-tech?) and the hardware that holds them together has these retarded heads that almost look like a bowling ball with three little dimples. Made no sense to me but I think they are like $300+ knives and not meant to see real world use anyway.

>>878684
Microtech, you void the warranty of them if you disassemble anywho, most retard tier company I've seen.

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>>878691
That is pretty terrible.

But those really are nothing more than collectibles.

>>878684
>>878691
>>878693

that's just retarded

>>877952
I'd avoid buying from Amazon unless it's a really good price just because I've heard of people getting returned knives in bad condition.

>>878684
the term you are looking for is proprietary screws and theye fucking stupid special snowflake shit,

though i do have a few $200 knives and use them on a daily basis

>>878700
True, or switching them out for fake knifes.

Seems like the only place to find info. Looking for a folding knife for edc. Bought a spyderco paranilitary 2, but I dont like it at all. Too light and it's super uncomfortable in the hand. Is the penknife a good knife?

>>878849
wat...you're nuts

PM2 is a great knife

>>878850

Thats what everyone's saying. Ill keep it for the novelty, but im still looking for an edc.

>>878853
I would say a RAT but the weight is nearly the same

if you want something heavy, look at the buck 110 thread....I never carry the one I have simply because it weighs too much

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>>878029
ever heard of that awesome knife company named tops ?

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>>878910
>That's not a knoife

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>>878910

going the opposite direction. French trade knife replica, 1095 steel, 1/16'' thick at the spine, hair popping sharp and a great slicer, though it could use a bit less decoration, and a bit more handle instead.

>>878910

Funny thing is TOPS and ESEE are all made in the same place by the same standards.

ESEE fags like inferior overpriced knives to the superior TOPS designs.

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>>878939
Tops designs superior? Granted Rowen made a few but fark man, more expensive =/= superior
>tfw

>>877504
I have that knife and I like it a lot. It's pretty thick, so you can do real bushcraft stuff with it and not worry about it breaking. I find the Mora Companion to be a little thin for some things.

My only gripe is that it looks so fucking tacticool. I really like having the ferro rod holder, thats useful, but the diamond sharpener on the side isn't great. It works, but its so small its a pain in the ass, and rarely do you need to sharpen your knife when you're out. Just wait until you get home. Otherwise I really like the knife.

Dependable, the handle is grippy and comfortable, and you can sharpen the blade so just the bevel is steel colored and the rest of the knife has the black rust resistant coating. It looks goooood.

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>>878537

>>876258

40 bucks, where do you live? I see them for 23 all the time.

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Finally got it, super sharp! Is it a legit one?

>>879071
why wouldn't it be?

>>879074
I use to EDC a tenacious. I did something stupid with it and ruined it. But I really liked it.

Bought a Para military 2 to replace it. The Para military 2 is even better (but 2-3 times more expensive).

Spyderco is the way to go.

>>879171
>(but 2-3 times more expensive)
get a knockoff, I did

>>879164
Sometimes people get fake ones and replace it with the real one and return it to Amazon.

>>879171
Man this thing is sharp as fuck.
What do you like about the Para military?

>>879183
How is it?

>>879199

I like the tenacious better than the paramilitary.

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>>879199
Not him but the pm 2 has better blade steel
Better ergos imho
Better fit an finish
Better locking mechanism
Better blade shape (well a nicer tip)

>>879199
I've bought many, many, many knives from amazon and never had any reason to believe they weren't genuine

>How is it?
I haven't gone full retard and tried to hammer it through a log, but it's done fine for me so far....according to the seller, the blade is actually 5crmov

I like the locking mechanism, plus the blade length/shape is just right....I don't see why spyderco can't make a cheaper version with a cheaper steel like 8crmov

seems like a conspiracy to get people to pay $130+ for a knife....I paid under $20

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>>879034
Mine looks like the love child of the pic you posted and this

>>876916

>all those angry /k/ fags

Glad I don't go to that cesspool

>>876916

> fucking knife fags

Goddamn /k/nifefags on /k/ are worse than the /k/nifefags on /out$!

>>879213
Why do Benchmades start at $100 bucks? There's no conspiracy, if you don't want to pay for a compression lock knife, you buy an alternative. The compression lock is one of the best designs about, why cheapen it?

>>879278
you're paying for a name...

in no way would a different blade lock add $100 to the price of a Persistence or a Tenacious

>>879282
Of course not, both of those knives are made in China. If Spyderco offered every knife they made with the choice of China as country of origin, or the US/Thailand/Japan they would never sell any of the latter 3, the Chinese variants and factory direct clones would flood the market and nobody would want to own a Spyderco which cost more. No matter how much better in quality they were, they would always have the taint of the Chinese cousin on them - People would simply buy a US Benchmade or ZT etc instead of a Colorado PM2 - in what world would this benefit Spyderco?

As it is they've struck a good balance, you want a cheap Spyderco, you buy a Chinese variant or a Byrd, you want an expensive one? They come with bells and whistles.

>>879287
spyderco is already seen as cheap, just look at the posts here....considering how many sellers have fakes, they're not helping themselves by not selling a different model

if I was going to spend $100+, it wouldn't be on something from spyderco

>>879303

$100 is relatively cheap. I have pens that cost more.

>>879303
>spyderco is already seen as cheap
The irony is strong here coming from someone who just complained about the price of a PM2 and reckoned it should be made in China from 8cr, I suspect the number of PM2 owners who agreed with you would be low in the extreme.

>>879312
I pity you

>>879318
only because they were dumb enough to pay $130+ for one

>>879318

What I don't get is why g-10 costs another $30-50 or more on the same model knife when you can buy a complete knife like the tenacious for that price increase.

>>877533
Fuckin keyboard warriors

>>879322

care to expand on that?

>>879320
Generally because they're made in a different place and things like non lined FRN are ultimately dirt cheap to produce with next to no machining processes.

>>879319
Naturally, you say that as if it's some form of negative. If Mercedes started making CLK AMG's in China with a legitimate Merc vin, how do you think current or planned owners would take it?

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Esee 5
Or
Bk2
For big thick unnecessary stupid fun beater knife?

Heard the old style sheath og the bk2 dulled the blade every time you drew it? Is this true?
I already have an esee 6 so maybe it would be more fun with a bk2? But the quality of esee is unparalleled and the sheath is top notch

Please advice

>>879282
No but a better lock
Better blade steel
Better blade shape
Better fit and finish
Better milling in the liner's
Better ergos would

>>879390
+US labour/materials cost - which nobody in their right mind should begrudge.

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What about the TOPS Fieldcraft by brothers of bushcraft?

>Overall Length 10.00"
>Blade Length 4.75"
>Cutting Edge 4.50"
>Blade Thickness 0.190"
>Blade Steel 1095 RC 56-58
>Handle Material Tan Canvas Micarta

>>879282

The price difference is not because of the lock.

The Chinese made models are made out of an inexpensive Chinese produced steel (though Spyderco at least actually QCs their 8cr) and all the machining and power grinding are done by hand with no liquid cooling, meaning there is a high risk of at least some heat damage to the temper on the edge.

The PM2 is made in the USA primarily using high end liquid cooled computer controlled machinery. S30v is more expensive to purchase and much more expensive to work in a manufacturing environment than 8cr due to its vanadium content. Final assembly and QC of USA made models is done by hand by American workers one of whom makes more in a day than the entire Chinese plant staff does.

The US factory can only produce a relatively limited volume of knives as most US designs take a lot longer to make than the Chinese made designs. This smaller volume combined with high capital investment and labor costs means they have to charge more for US made models.

And if you think high end Spydercos are overpriced, let me tell you that I would rather spend my money on a brand that bought a fuck in CATRA machine to do their own steel testing, that introduces more novel steels into knives in one year than all the other big production makers combined, and who designs knives first and foremost to be cutting tools rather than flipping toys or pocket jewelry, than spend it on any of the other (far less utility focussed) production makers.

The only production knives I will buy are Spydercos. Otherwise I only buy from small makers and customs.

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I found this in a parking lot today

>>879466

Well said.

>>879202
Yea it's a great knife, I love it! It cuts through anything super easily.

>>879210
I like the little mini knife haha.

>>879213
Well if you read the reviews you can see that it is a thing.

How did you get it for so cheap?

>>880123
The Tenacious and PM2 are almost the same size and weight. Anon got a PM2 for $20 by buying a Chinese clone.

>>880130

One anon with pm2 here, have both tenacious and pm2 and I favour the tenacious.

>>880178
Aye, I wasn't attempting to comment on preferences, I own neither, my tastes run differently just that the Tenacious isn't a small knife compared to the PM2 and is actually slightly heavier.

>>880178
Why?

>>880228

pm2 is shit

>>880507
Objectively it isn't but thanks for your thoughful input

>>880697
>tfw he's right and anon can't accept he wasted his money

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>>880507

No. Excellent lock, excellent ergonomics, and if you knew about the dealer exclusives, available in CPM-M4.

>>880697
>>880755

I have the knife myself. It's pretty shit. The ergonomics are fucked, the handle feels like shit for how big it is. It's made for pussies with small hands. Objectively it's an okay knife for the price. You're paying for a story.

>>880774
>It's made for pussies with small hands.

Well, I have small hands and I love CPM-M4 on a knife I can sharpen on waterstones without having to disassemble to clean it afterwards (which disqualified the Mantra), so it works for me.

>>880774
>The ergonomics are fucked, the handle feels like shit for how big it is. It's made for pussies with small hands
It's like a combination of contradiction and personal opinion - clearly it's not the knife for you, objectively it's a great knife.

>>879434
>Scandi
>1095
>Comfy handle

Just go for a mora bushcraft for 1 third of the price.

>>876699
when trail blazing in florida ive found that a short machete (or a big knife) works best cause you can swing it around in heavy foliage and its still big enough to get it out of the way

>>880774
Thats funny because I have large /x large hands and it fits my hand well

>>878915
Saw that one at the Sydney knife show this year

>>874485
looks like you walked off with the steak knife from Chili's

>>878915
The fug is this?

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>>874485
Condor a best

>>874485
how does it make feather sticking?

are benchmades any good?

>>881994
some of the best so i hear. not a singe bad product they make that it for sure

with some models you might need to break in the mechanism if you get a folder but they will ultimately be very smooth

If you could only have one knife (under 8 inches) on you when dropped unpllaned into the woods to survive, what would you take?

You'll need it for everything from gutting animals, splitting wood/making feathersticks, possibly tying to a stick to use as a spear, etc.

Basically it should be indestructible and multipurpose.

>>882000
is there a budget?

>>882002
No budget, but no special order handmade custom stuff.

>>882012
if i absolutely have to have a knife that has spearing capabilities then a becker BK5

if not my condor crotalus

>>875370
>listening to a richfag
Jap hunting plus firearm license is over 5000 USD every couple years.

His advice won't be applicable to us plebs.

>>882034
condor over becker as the condor can shape wood spears with ease and less effort in return for calories saved.

>>882035
>Because sharpening techniques, blade geometry study and real world application of knives differs based on your income.

>>882037
Didnt think of MAKING a spear, i was thinking he was referring to the knife as a spear head, idk im drinking tonight
But hell yeah man condor anyday,
The only trouble with my crotalus is that its a little big and hard to finnesse ya bitch with(kek)

I might look for a two knife system carrying a smaller blade (2-3 inches) for detail work

>>874688
Despite the haters, you never regret buying an ESEE. It's not the perfec ft knife however, as such does not exists

>>882000
8 inch blade or total lenght?

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>>882000

if I could only take one knife, i'd take pic related - great blade, and the most comfortable handle I have ever used on a knife.

Thing is - pretty much any knife is multi purpose. The trick, is that the most important part when it comes to making the knife as functional as possible is not the blade (cough, tom brown tracker, cough), but the handle.

If you want your knife to be very functional, you need to be able to hold the knife in many ways, not just saber/hammer grip.

The blade just needs to be small enough - Mors suggests 4 fingers long (about 3-4 inches, depending on how fat your fingers are).

General consensus on a good "survival" knife is a blade ~4'' long, spear point, or drop point, usually scandi grind (full flat, and a reasonably high saber works too, but scandi is best for wood, and that will be the primary use of a survival knife - you can cut meat with anything).
Full tang (this includes hidden tang type knives as long as they are high quality and durable), with a very comfortable handle (can't stress this enough) with no silly finger grooves, guards, etc.

1/8'' thick (forget 1/4'' thick monsters), quality steel (O1, A2, 3V, even 1095 with a good heat treat, rarely stainless, or super steels like s35vn)

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T H I C C

>>882066
Is chris still having these made?

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/out/ help

I wanna sperg on myself and get somethjng really nice

Tops BC kukri
Tops tracker
Crkt birler axe
Condor hudson bay
Condor heavy duty kukri,

I dunno guys, i would be happy with any of them but i can only get 1-2

>>881958
A nife

>>882077

Chriss is not "having these made" - lt wright juzt makes them, and whatever you think about Tanner, the jessmuk really is an outstanding knife.

>>882078
>tracker

Don't. Unless you don't mind spending money "just for the heck of it".
I have a tracker (because reasons, and reason be damned), and while it's a functional knife (and near indestructible) it is also 550 grams of not the most subtle blade, and fof all the hype (thanks, Benicio) it doesn't perform any better than a "normal" knife.

If you want to spring for something really nice, i'd recommend that jessmuk posted earlier ($235), or one of LT's regular knives (genesis, gns, etc.). Also Battle Horse Knives, or Skookum Bush Tool (if you can get your hands on one).

If you want a kukri, and don't mind spending around $200, go himalayan imports, or tora blades (longer wait tome, but worth it).

>>882086
I like chris myself, hes a decent guy

Thanks for the direction

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>>876258
2 mouths I got my for 9€ on gearbest ;^)

>>878915
i watched that viedo. beautiful knife desu. people give thick knives shit, and i know this knife is a showpiece, but i bet with a wooden mallet this knife do it all from wedging logs into planks and finessing. would be a proud owner

>>878939
what is; the tracker

lol

@882367

Gr8 b8 m8, it r8s 8/8.

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>>882394
HOLY SHIT KEK

what knife in the 100-200 range is the best value

i'm looking for
>drop point
>folding
>seration
>/fa/shionable

>>882415
Look at case knives, or buck. case might not have serrations but you might find one

Becker BK2 or Blackbird SK5?

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hand made skinner from shop in town, I picked the wood. Bonus white trash cigar

>>882497
bk2

>>882415
Benchmade griptilian with awt scales.

I'd really reconsider the serrations though

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>>879352
Esee 5 would look bettr with ur 6

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Grandpa gave me this knife several years ago. I know that Frosts became Morakniv at some point but otherwise know nothing about the knife.

What do I have here /out/?

>>882497
>>882501


If you're asking about the bkt, it means you're not ready to own a knife.

>>882415
look at the pohl force products.

>>877520
The steel is fine. Yes that other guy is correct- it is a cheap steel but the heat treat that buck has developed more than makes up for its perceived shortcomings. the buck 119 is one of my prettiest knives. It looks and feels awesome on the belt and there's not much it can't handle (I've batoned wood with it once) but it's also pretty big I don't hunt large game so I generally prefer smaller knives (like mora. Any one is good) I say go for the buck. It's what you want and you will undoubtedly be very pleased with it. Even if it's to big for what you need it for you still have a bomb proof American made expertly heat treated price of knife history.

My favorite buck knives are the folding hunter and Ranger skinner.

>>882497
>>882501
>bk2

Why don't you just skip the middle man and pack a brick? It'll have a similar weight and be similarly useful at cutting tasks.

>>882544
Those yours? How's the edge retention of the bk2 compared to ESEE

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>>882544
Fuck man, I want that color in a 3 or 4. It's ugly as hell but would be tough to lose.

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>>882689

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>>882682
Very similar. I think the handle should be your decision maker.

>>882691
LOVE!!!

Was this thread brought back from the grave or what?

>>882786
Nah just typical knife fags who make a new thread if there isn't one on the top of Page 1.

>>882787

Why is your name Pepsi?

>>882531
>I'd really reconsider the serrations though
Why?

>>882717
vissually the holes in the handle for the screws on the BK2 look very dep, do you feel them?

il get my hands on both and esee 5 and a bk2 in maybe 2 weeks so for now its only dreaming

>>882843
I have them on my work knife and they tend to me more of a nuisance than anything.

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>>882792
Because I really like Diet Coke

>>882960

Nice. Pepsi and Coke just aren't the same anymore.

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>>882976
Were they ever the same?

>>882995

No, you dunce. I'm talking about the sugar change.

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>>882997
They still sell it with real sugar. I believe the Coke in the glass bottles is still real sugar and then Pepsi has the "Real Sugar" stuff in bottles and cans or the Mexican Pepsi in glass bottles with real sugar.

Diet Pepsi and Diet Coke both changed their formulas a year or two ago and stopped using aspartame and used Splenda type sweeteners instead. Both companies changed back to aspartame a few months afterward.

Both of you people are nuts....Dr. Pepper is where it's at.

>>883059
This.

Anyone else make their own knife sheathes?

>>883080
yep

thinking about one for a mora, I hate the plastic one

>>883099

I was thinking the same damn thing. Give me an idea and I'll make it.

>>883103
I'd just do a simple design like the two others I've made so far....the blade would probably be around the right thickness to just be held in by friction

personally I don't care for the folded over kind where the handle slips in

>>882551
You have a decent puuko. Frosts had to add "of Sweden" to their name to differentiate themselves from the shitty Frost's Cutlery. Mora was a separate company and bought out or merged with Frost's.

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>>883059
I'm down with that. If I'm not drinking diet something, regular Dr Pepper is my favorite of the 3 sodas. And we distribute Dr Pepper in this area so always plenty at my disposal.

>>883207
Never tried Dr Pepper

>>883208
Sorry, forgot the diet bit, never tried Diet Dr Pepper

>>883207
well that's good to hear

>>883209
pretty sure I have, but it's been a while
if I remember right, I thought it tasted fine.....although I also think I had been drinking more diet at the time
>knife thread randomly goes completely off the rails
>nobodycares.jpg
>never change 4chan

>>876720
saw one of those at tractor supply the other day... might get it since it's under $20

In the process of making a sheath. Fucked up the first one and don't like it. Starting another.

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>>883208
How? Do you live under a rock or just from some third world country like Yurop?

>>883451
Pepsi, sometimes you deserve your trip you raging homo

>>883451
>Yurop
>a country

You are without a doubt the dumbest tripfag on this board.

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>>883755
>>883769
>guise I was just pretending to be retarded
But why would you take anything I say literally?

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>>883436

I posted the pic on k, forgot.

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>>874020
lol, did your little sister wrap that handle?....

next knife is a woodlaw

advice for making a "slip sheath"?

there's nothing for a strap to hold on to, I'd be a bit cautious about trying to orient it horizontally

is the izula fixed blade edc perfection?
i love the size, the comfy micarta scales, the secure sheath and the blade shape.
i only wish it were available in different steels. maybe in a2, o1, d2, sleipnir and some sandvik.

what do you think is the beat edc fixed blade ?

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>>884877

A custom maker who does high hardness (60-64 HRC) fine grained steel (1095, O1, 52100, AEB-L) with a thin enough grind to really show the advantage over production knives (0.080"-0.100" at the spine, 0.005"-0.010" behind the edge) and with blade shape and handle shape designs basedon ergonomics.

Off the top of my head, Carlton Cutlery (who I shill regularly on here), Loreno Knives, Rhode Edge Knives, Robert Erickson, and a bunch of other makers you'd find in the small makers section of BladeForums qualify.

Pic related: My
One of my Calton neckers in 1095.

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>>884877

perfection? hardly. It's more like a base line for a good, small edc fixed blade.

Really depends what you need it for. If you want pure sliicing efficiency - what he said:>>884915


Otherwise, check out something like an lt wright next gen (pic related) - it's basically a better izula - better handle, better blade - IMO a perfect compromise between edc and bushcraft tasks without compromising either.

If you're not looking to spend much, you can also check out https://www.mountaintoptradingco.com/knives_trade.asp

very reasonable knives (around 30 dollars without a sheath) 1/16'' spine 1095 steel, based on 18th century trade knives.

>>878610
>finished it
Condor Kephart

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>>879434
have mine for 2 years now,
that thing is a tank

>>885024
indeed

woodlaw handles are almost ready to start sealing

I might prefer danish oil

>>873949
How good is the Buck Knives Hoodlum and/or Compadre Froe for camping? Some googling shows favorable reviews. I really like the sound of the Froe because it is made of spring steel (5160 specifically) and I would prefer to have a camp knife over a hatchet. Also, anything better for the price or even at a lower price? I would prefer spring steel and large as I'd mostly use it on wood (chopping/batoning/etc).

Links
Compadre Froe
http://www.buckknives.com/product/compadre-froe/0108WAS-B/

Hoodlum
http://www.buckknives.com/product/buck-hood-hoodlum-knife/0060BKSBH-B/

And before someone talks about the stupid coating, I agree. It looks asinine. First thing I'd do is remove it.

>>885411
thank goodness someone actually knows the proper tool to use for splitting logs, but that is not a froe

it is not supposed to be "shaving sharp", and the whole point is to use leverage from the handle

you'd have to be nuts to pay $160 for that; a real full size one would easily be less than $100, or find someone locally who has some scrap metal

it would however still be impractical unless you were also taking a saw

>>885412
I know it's not a Froe in the proper sense of the word. Blame Buck for the name. I don't see how "shaving sharp" is relevant, it's going to chop up wood. It doesn't need to be very sharp for that.

So where could I get a blade of similar size, style, and made of 5160 for $100?

Why would I bother with a saw?

>>885412

You're clearly retarded, don't know shit.

>>885414
>I don't see how "shaving sharp" is relevant
by the reviews and pictures, they sharpen it

if it's for splitting wood, it should not be sharp, it should be relatively blunt....the morons who hammer knives through logs don't seem to grasp the difference between cutting and splitting

>blade of similar size, style
ie. a machete?

a real froe for $65: http://www.woodcraft.com/product/147901/shingle-froe.aspx

>Why would I bother with a saw?
I have not heard of any species that form clean-ended pieces on their own

>>885424
that's where you're wrong

too many people like yourself are constantly spewing it everywhere

>>885437
>they sharpen it
Okay, it'll dull with use and I won't waste time getting it extremely sharp. Non-issue.

>a machete
Pretty much. I usually use a machete of some sort and a camp axe. Barely use the axe and my machete broke. So I'm in the market for a better machete. Specific type is open to consideration, I definitely want one made of better steel. The two I mention earlier I thought were interesting enough to take a second look at, so here I am asking about them more in-depth.

>inb4 machete broke because you used it wrong
Kind of. I lent it to a buddy a few weeks back and it turns out what he really needed to borrow as a pry bar.

>Clean ended pieces
Why would I care? It's for camping. As in, mostly firewood. Hell, since I'll take a tent and at least one camp chair it'll be pretty much solely used for wood or brush clearing.

Are you seriously too dumb to understand I don't want a Froe in the proper sense of the word (like what you have linked)? That the only reason the damn word came up in the first place was because it is part of the name given to the tool in question by the company that makes it?

>>885442
then take whatever you would have spent and get a good hatchet

>>885447
Fine, then a good hatchet for $200 or under that I can use to clear brush, cut wood, and use for general camp tasks. Do you have any recommendations?

>>885449
go search for the axe threads, there have been plenty

you can be sensible and get a Fiskars for $25 or a Husqvarna for $36, or go nuts and pay $150+ for a Gransfors

>>885449
Old Billnäs.

>>877529
dope

What is a good whitlin knife?

thinking about getting a case stockman's in high-carbon

any other recommendations for a folding knife?

Great Eastern is probably out of my price range

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>>887325
https://agrussell.com/knife/2169#

>>876710
i used to work in retail and one of the issues with non-folding box-cutters is that sometimes the retractable blade stops retracting all the way due to wear and tear and people just generally being retarded
so i remember a few times some dipshit would reach into his pocket to pop open a box that was up on top of all the shelves for some dumbass customer and they would cut the fuck out of themselves because their blade was still open a couple millimeters
and if you keep it the other way in your pocket itll just slice your pocket open
sure you could wear a belt strap but then you'll be walking around in public with a box cutter on your belt like a fucking autismo
so yeah folding cutters are the shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuGJk8VSnqs

>tfw turning lead to gold

>>877504
real steel bushcraft II

>>888054
Neat.

>>877278
so you must work at home depot or lowes then?
I did the same thing as you when I worked retail, gave us those shitty things and said too many idiots had cut themselves with real knives. I got my hands on a box cutter and through the cheap plastic thing away. Used my box cutter for years, just didn;t pull it out in front of management. Easy.

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Anybody here have any feelings for or against the ESEE Junglas? I prefer to take a larger knife so I don't need an ax (versatility primarily). It typically comes down to carry weight due to my main area of expertise being a backpacker. I've heard this knife is a beast in innawods

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>bought into the fallkniven meme
The s1 handle is tiny since it's made for cold weather use with gloves, and I have huge hands. Might let it go desu

>>875764
Tell me more

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Just got this piece of crap knife a couple weeks ago, decided to make it mine. I used purple and navy blue rit dye, but it has no hint of purple or blue whatsoever. I do like how it turned out though.

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Shits on every knife in this threads chest

>>889597
As much as I don't like Bark river and it's shills the BR in 3v a bit further up is clearly a superior outdoor knife to an S30v offering from Benchmade and that's before you get the the numerous Esee 4's and the Jessmuk.

It's a nice design but why would Benchmade make it in S30v?

>>889643
I don't know what your conflagration is about s30v was my favorite steel long before I had a 162. Its harder than my dick when vick from longmires nipples show through her shirt and gets sharper than anything else ive ever held. I dont know what 3v is because i dont masturbate to steel statistics but if it more than gets the job done and never gets a speck of rust even in salt water emvirinments whats npt to love bitch?

>>889692
S30v is designed around abrasive edge retention at the cost of most everything else which means it's great for tasks which abrade an edge. Problem is that's definitely not the criteria a bush knife should be aiming for, you should be looking for toughness and edge stability. Both S30v and 3V aren't the easiest to sharpen either which is often a point people prefer in outdoor knives.

I wouldn't have even commented on your knife, which in design I think is great, except your comment was in need of rectification.

>>889735

I don't know why you're wasting your time trying to explain things to someone who actually sets money on fire buying Benchmade fixed blades.

They clearly aren't the type of person that actually uses their knives for anything besides finger fucking, or else they wouldn't have bought such a knife to begin with.

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What do you think about SAKs?

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>>889782
They are good if you're a Yuro.

I like Leathermans better personally. The ones with the locking blades are better for cutting and I use the pliers a lot. The screwdriver on that Skeletool is much more useful than any SAK screwdriver as well. Just don't cheap out if you buy a multitool because you will regret it.

>>889784
Only things I need on my SAK is a blade, can & bottle opener, corkscrew. Multitools are a whole different can of worms in my opinion.

>>889797
Yeah it really depends what you use it for. I like the Leathermans because the pliers are useful for fishing. And they have a ton of configurations so you can get one with 50 tools or one with 3. I bought that Skeletool because I only needed the pliers and knife for fishing and I guess the screwdriver is useful if I need to take a reel apart at the lake. I still think the locking knife on certain Leathermans is more useful than the SAK's tho.

>>889806
Never had to use a plier for fishing yet, neither a screwdriver for reels, maybe I've just been lucky or maybe I'm just not fishing enough
A lockable blade would be handy, but commie laws forbids carry of such assault weapons in public spaces and collective transport where I live, fucking europe I tell you

>>889779
I use mine all the time faggot I uploaded that picture off Google because mine is beat to shit and not nearly as pretty as it once was. Im taking it on a three day canoe trip with a buddy this Wednesday, and environment your jerk off "aesthetic" 1095 would turn stark brown in

>>890125
Steel queers are the ABSOLUTE worst. At least gear queers are usually new and once they're squared away they stop posting and get out (I hope) but steel queers get more and more steel queer as their sad cold steely queery lives slowly go on in steel queeritude

>>890125
>Uses s30v
>canoeing

Is there a lot of cardboard out there? Carpet? Hemp rope? No? Guess your the typical dumb fuck who listens to how "premium" a steel is instead of what steel is suitable for which application.

Goddamn how fucking retarded does someone have to be to grossly overpay for a fixed blade made out of the most brittle cutlery steels available for an application where toughness and ease of field sharpening DO matter, but abrasive wear resistance doesn't matter AT ALL.

A stainless steel Mora would literally be better at every actual outdoor task than your hilariously overpriced meme knife, you clueless marketing cuck.

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>>889735
Isint a "bushknife" you fucking bushcraft faggot its a cutting tool. I sure it to cut shit, and you're just an angry poorfag. And get this. My only other fixed blade is a ss Mora you big dumb Elvis. It guts fish and cuts fishing line and stabs that one time these north ga bears in my trash finally get hungry enough for me. After the first one hell probably win

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>>890209
Isint a "bushknife" you fucking bushcraft faggot its a cutting tool. I sure it to cut shit, and you're just an angry poorfag. And get this. My only other fixed blade is a ss Mora you big dumb Elvis

>>890209
I honestly don't care anon, I'm not the one that claimed it's the best knife in thread. You do you and at the rate you're going it's probably best if you keep it to yourself.

>>890328
What do you have then hotshot?

>>873958
too heavy to be a woods carry for me. They have their uses but I always opt for the hatchet/puukko combo

>>873968
What are you doing over there? I can't really think of anything you'd be doing which needs a knife bigger than 6 inches if you have a hatchet too, but that definitely sucks.