[ D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d ] - /dbt/

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>>17302775
>>17302771
Honda looks better

>>17302789
VREM VREM
>tfw no Hornet yet
Should I be a cheapskate and get a carbed one after my license upgrade or should I hold out for an FI model?

>>17302789
Why do people complain about not getting the 400 super four when we get this and the 919 instead, albeit out of production with no real equivalent (CB1000R has ugly wasp headlight shit and jaggy sportbike styling).

Post your leather jackets.

>mfw can't find one long enough to fit my well fed exterior

>>17302838
Textile is your best bet as a fatty

>>17302814
It has swastika rims though.

>>17302841
Length is the main issue. Just made a little bit worse by my slight belly. This """sport""" is designed for manlets.

>>17302860
I see enough guys taller than me (I'm 183cm) in full leathers. So they should exist.

>>17302862
Im 201cm

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>>17302793
2007 and onwards are fuel injected but those are the ones with ugly as fuck headlight, especially the 2008 model

if you go hornet then 2006 for looks (my opinnion) or the really new ones like 2013 etc

>>17302877
I prefer the round headlight but that's not a huge issue. Round headlight assemblies are what, 40 bucks?
I'm just not keen on having to deal with 4 carbs. 2 are fine and the ones on my CB 500 have never given me trouble but still...

How does shit like this manage to be so expensive?

http://www.bikermart.co.uk/abm_comfort_kit.asp

Is there a cheaper way to make a sportbike that's been relegated to commuter/tourer comfy? If you're not relying on top speed to contribute to shaving seconds off your laps there's no point in having handlebars that tuck you in.

>>17302860
>Weight reduction is everything
>has a slight belly

enjoy being slow

>>17302881
>implying I'm not losing weight
>implying this is helping me get a leather jacket that fits

>>17302893
why do you need leather if you're not planning on tracking your bike anyways

textile will last at the speed limit

So I'm going to the dragon next week 6-9 and I've fully leaned the bike over on the streets of upstate New York. How do I avoid low siding the bike while also trying to trim down the chicken strips.

>>17302860
>This """sport""" is designed for manlets.
Yep.

You can get custom leathers for not that much more than nice off-the-rack ones, including two-piece options. Syed, Z, Vanson, Barnacle Bill, etc.

>>17302897
I've never*

>>17302860
Motorcycles are shitty for manlety, I have to tilt it almost 45° to touch the ground...

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>>17302771
can i play too?

>>17302906
manlets according to 4chan are different

here, average height is manlet, and above average is a normal male who actually has a chance at getting laid, getting a job, and dying happy. anyone else doesn't deserve to breed.

being overwhelmingly average on average because the average on average, this is how we justify our failure. by inventing new ways to classify ourselves as wortheless and others as "normies" - the beautiful hated ones.

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>>17302920
Wow, that is a salty manlet post if I've ever seen one. It's probably longer than your legs.

gf refuses to ATGATT on her way to work (15 min each way, though at 100+ kmh on the highway). I think she's fairly reckless and inexperienced (Almost hit a kid at a crosswalk legally before). What do?

She's refusing to wear riding pants/shoes specifically and thinks thin jeans are sufficient protection

>>17302920
And as what do I qualify with 5`3?

>>17302928
Let her crash and dump her when she becomes a scar monster

>>17302928
your legs are literally the best place to lose skin if you have to lose skin

they're easily covered and almost nobody sees them, also nerve endings are sparse compared to your arms.

just get her some velcro-on racing boots and a top case for regular shoes and wait until she finds sufficiently fabulous leather pants.

Where do you guys ride in new england/MA I swear there's so much traffic on all the decent roads plz

>>17302928
let her die.

>>17302928
you want to breed with someone this stupid?

>>17302935
>your legs are literally the best place to lose skin if you have to lose skin
How about not losing skin in the first place by gearing up?

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>>17302928
>gf

>>17302935
>your legs are literally the best place to lose skin if you have to lose skin

I think that's the opposite for a soon to be single girl

>>17302935
She has nice A* leather pants, no pucks but knee and shin protection. I think they look pretty good, she just doesn't want to have to spend 2 minutes to change to jeans for work when shes there

>>17302927
I'm 6'1". Just saying, ya'll are pathetic losers for labelling the vast majority of white males as "objectively lesser men" for the sake of making your own personal failures make a little more sense. Things like "i am manlet, so virgin", or "i am not NORMIE enough, so virgin", or "i am hapa, so virgin" are things losers tell themselves to dodge the possibility of self improvement. Meanwhile literal midgets are fucking hot bitches while the /r9gaylords/ here whine because they're 5'11" and like video games instead of football.

>repsol in captcha

Honda get out reee

>>17302948
Get her (to buy) some textile overpants.

>>17302948
Remind her of how many weeks she'll spend in hospital / rehab when she fucks her legs up.

>>17302928
quit being a faget

>>17302952
That's the thing, she "doesn't like" the look of those because they're so bulky looking

I'm starting to regret getting her into this, afraid shes really going to hurt herself

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>>17302949
>this entire post
>I'm 6'1"
Sure you are buddy. I'd pat you on the back but I have enough back pain as it is.

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>>17302949
I am litteraly 5`3 not 5`11 and live in the german city with the least women even close to my age.

>>17302959
so she prefers short term looks over safety.

Time to get a new gf.

>>17302959
Stop being a pussy and either deal with her making her own decisions (even if they are stupid) or dump her.

>>17302960
Dumb frogposter

>>17302964
It's not your height, WR

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>>17302928
remind here that neither you nor anyone else is going to want to date her when she looks like this

>>17302964
Und dann auch noch ET-Student. Auf einer Skala von 1 bis Papa Schlumpf, wie blau sind deine Eier?

>>17302965
>>17302966

thanks guys

I love her lots, but now am considering stopping riding because of her not being safe (so she stops too). If I dump her now she'll drive recklessly in spite of me, which sucks

>>17302977
Could you be any more of a spineless numale?

>>17302977
>not riding because of a grill

She's not the only stupid one in this relationship

>>17302974
>E-Techniker
Nichtmal dass, Maschbau...

>>17302977
>If I dump her now she'll drive recklessly in spite of me
who cares

>>17302984
Dann trag keine ETler-Pullis, das ist peinlich. Trag lieber Karohemden.

>>17302990
Das Karohemd darf man erst ab dem Bachelor tragen...

>>17302980
>>17302982
>>17302987
it'd only be for a little bit, so she can sell her bike and be done with the hobby.

Anybody know which Shoeis or Arais are closest in fit to the Bell RS1?

>>17302973
ah yes, the tragic consequences of not wearing riding pants on your head

>>17302977
>has hot biker gf
>could have biker gf with hot scars
>this is a problem

Basic gear short of an airbagged suit with a back protector and enough armor to make it weight 20+ lbs won't save you from what really kills you, it'll just prevent scarring and a little blood loss. Some people get unlucky and grind their flesh all the way down to the bone. if you're worried about that, don't ride over 35-40mph.

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>>17302946
>Anno Domini Nostri Iesu Christi 2017
>not wanting to have a qt scarred gf

>>17302977
Tfw my gf is the same. Drives recklessly and rides a 300 with everything except boots/leg protection

She's really new but has been learning very well since I've taught her a lot. Hoping to buy her some good boots at least for her birthday coming up

I don't personally ATGATT but I wear motorcycle shoes (meme protection), dainese knee/shin pads over my jeans as well as gauntlet gloves armored jacket and full face helmet.

Maybe I should get some leather trackstar pants?

I have a race suit but I'm not wearing that in the streets.

>>17302994
Quatsch. "Karohemd und Samenstau, ich _studier_ Maschinenbau".

>>17302977

Are you European?

>>17302928
Is it a style issue? Check out http://www.gogogearla.com/protective-leggings-made-of-100-dupont-kevlar-fibers/ and click around, there are some pretty flattering options there.

>>17303001
I wear my pants all the time, and we both got full gear sets when we started and promised to wear them, though she's rationalized wearing jeans and fucking converse because it's "too annoying to change"

she's dropped her bike 3 times but hasn't had a real accident yet. If they're Kevlar jeans you should be good, but I've already had an accident at low speeds downtown (40kmh) and my a* pants saved me from assrash so I don't leave the house w.o them

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>>17303006

>>17302928
Show her what happens when dumb princesses like her crash.
That should do the trick.

>>17303006
no

>>17303005
>Samenstau
Nein, dafür aber einen guten Bizeps...

>>17303018

No, Australian. Can I take that as a yes?

>>17303013
dang, i might have to pick up a pair of those

>for my gf
>r-r-r-right

>>17303013
it's probably a convenience issue

if you want to ride your bike to the store, what do you do with the overpants?

A: sweat in them while you shop
B: stash them in your $200 locking luggage case if it's not already full
C: tie them to the handlebars and hope traeqon doesnt' realize they're worth serious money

>>17303024
No clue, I'm not even him.

>>17303021

Oh, then where are you from?

>>17303022
Solltest deine Technik mal überdenken wenn du damit deinen Bizeps trainierst. Wichsen geht eigentlich mehr auf den Unterarm weil die Bewegung "aus dem Handgelenk" kommt.
t. ET-Master (Masturbationsexperte)

>>17303013
It's not, it's convenience like the other anon said. She wants to wear nice clothes whenever we go out, but doesn't want to deal with the hassle of storing or carrying around or changing out of the riding pants.

>>17303026
It's been a few months so my memory is fuzzy, but I definitely remember a few dudes in comments on someone's review blog or video saying they'd gotten pairs just for the slim comfy and were quite happy with them.

>>17303028
D: not be a fat fuck and don't sweat while walking a few minutes in well-ventilated textile gear

>>17303031
me and my gfs son reside in Canada

>>17303016
I smashed my knee off pavement at 30mph and lost a PCL. impact protection is pretty important.

She has dropped it standing up or really slow just as yours has (its an r3 2015 with a crash cage) but same no real accidents yet.

I'm just worried she will go into a corner too hot if I get bored following her pace and pass her and she tries to keep up or we go somewhere that is intimidating to a new rider with hectic turns (all I ride desu)

>>17303046
go2tracklol

>>17303042

For real, I'm genuinely curious. Won't make fun of you if you're Swedish.

>>17303039
>well ventilated

Venting always relies on fast moving air unless it's ineffective mesh gear that's only worth the armored sections. It gets hot, especially if you walk between several stores, some of which aren't climate controlled big boxes.

At some point you have to accept that a slide at 30mph wouldn't be THAT bad. And it's easy if it happened to you several teams going downhll on a bicycle. Also, because 30mph city riding, prolonged slides are unlikely. You'll probably tumble and hit a pole spine-first or end up under a car.

>>17303046
Yeah she goes wide a lot in corners, though she doesn't lean too much so I'm not worried about that - it's just her reaction to other drivers on the road, I don't think she's graceful enough to know how to handle a situation or defensively drive and remain safe in a dicey situation that most others would call a close call

>>17303046
Take her to a track where she won't shrek herself (and has to wear gear).
Go to a track to get your thrills and ride chill with her.
Convince her to ride bitch instead of riding herself, then tell her you aren't letting her get on without gear.

>>17302977
cuck.

KEK

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Is it ok to ride trails (or whatever you call these unpaved roads in english) with street tires? Will I get a flat tire? will I ded?

>>17303034
Ich mache das beidhändig...

>>17303053
This is why safety courses exist.

>>17303058
I do this all the time...

>>17303058
RIP

>>17303059
Fickst du buchstäblich deine Fäuste oder was?
Aber wie kannst du dann den Drachendildo bedienen und zwischen Hahnreipornos wechseln?

>>17303052
my dad broke his collar bone crashing a bicycle at 30. Although the reason he crashed was because he hit me after I down in front of him and I was fine so kind of a mixed message there.

>>17303052
>And it's easy if it happened to you several teams going downhll on a bicycle
I can confirm.

>>17303058
>will I ded?
Eventually, yes. But it probably won't have anything to do with street tires on gravel roads.

>>17303055
Track day is coming up for me it will be my first but she doesn't have the gear and I don't have thousands to buy her race suit stuff and neither does she as she's still in college.

She will ride 2 up on my 929 it's just very uuncomfortable. We do it time to time still. It's fun but how the fuck do I move around on the bike with a girl strapped to me?

>>17303053
Same from what I've seen I just worry she is afraid of leaning her body with the bike but the r3 is super forgiving.

I'd just hate to see her quit because she got hurt once because of no lower half gear

>>17303055
>Take her to a track where she won't shrek herself

You've not been to many track days, huh? That's where ambition minus talent goes to eat pavement (and gravel). Last week we had one session in the entire day without the ambulance going out.

>>17303070
die schnitzel ist verkommegang, auchtung weiner sauerkraut bratwurstengrillen diemoslimdickesuckenlicken mutterficker.

>>17303076
Don't be a cuck who buys everything for her just to maybe get some pussay.
If she can't afford gear, she sure as fuck can't afford crashing or riding.
With a pillion you don't ride too hektik. If the pillion moves (correctly) on her own it's doable.

>>17303077
On the track you may eat gravel and tarmac, but that's better than slamming head first into cars, trees and chilluns. Also on the track you're forced to wear gear so tarmac and gravel aren't a big deal.

>>17303070
Jein, er ist etwas länger, da brauche ich beide Hände...

>>17303077
Most people and most riders are dumb. What's your point?

/dbt/ also told me I'd certainly crash as a noob and I still haven't. Must have been americans.
Gotta say I dropped the bike because I forgot the disklock on and because of a camper faggot on the stelvio, though, but I don't consider that crashing.

>>17303046
>tfw I kinda feel the same way as your gf

I'm a poorfag so I bought cheap secondhand gear. I always wear it but I do hate how I look like a power ranger with down syndrome. I found a jacket I really like (leather, motorcycle specific but old, ie no CE rated protection) and can live with I guess, but I'm stuck on pants.

My current textile overpants are ugly and I hate having a pile of clothes next to my desk at work. I'm saving up for some nice kevlar jeans.

>mfw I just want to look like a tumblr hipster but not die

>>17303086
I won't but it's just a gift idea ie I got her nice gloves for Valentine's day. Wouldn't spend all that money on a race suit and pay for her track day. I don't think she's ready for track either it would be a waste of time since she doesn't even have a thousand miles of saddle time yet.

>>17303101
I bought some Kevlar jeans but they don't fit me anymore. Time to quit lifting/eating forever.

I'd recommend some type of impact protection with those seriously knee injuries fucking suck really bad

The dianese ve1n knee/shin guards are 70$ new and pretty comfy and can be worn over or under. I suppose you could drag them a tad but I wouldn't expect them to perform like race knee pucks

>>17303124
dedicated knee guards are a good idea anyways

the ones in pants/overpants almost never actually fit over your knee when you're not in the riding position, even though you're splayed out when you crash.

>>17303124
I got a pair with knee and hip pads, haven't ridden in them yet but they are comfy just to wear

>>17303143
Link? Im curious

>>17303143
>hip pads
Do you look like a trap in them?

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>>17302928
Show her this.

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>>17302999

>>17303147
https://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/buy/Red-Route-Stretch-Jeans/22357.htm

they aren't full kevlar just on the arse, thigh and knee

>>17303149
I hope not

Hi guys.

I have a GSXR 600 k7.

Do i read the oil level when engine is off or when its idling? I stood the bike up as engine was off and there was almost no oil in it apparently.

>>17303199
Off and let it cool down first.

>>17303206
I recently overfilled my oil because I didn't realize how long it took the stuff to drain back down into the crankcase after running the engine. Don't be like me, kids.

>>17303199
did you read the owner's manual? I bet they have some good ideas

>>17303262
Bought it off some goddamn nerd.
He had all papers but the owners manual.

>>17303270
>some nerd
>no owners manual

>>17303296
Apparently stupid normies consider nerd to be an insult.

>>17303058
it's fine

>>17302928
let her do what she wants. It's not your responsibility to dress her.
then this: >>17302933

What are some good brand jackets for tall riders? Medium-large clothing usually fits my torso perfectly, but I have a 6'6 wingspan and can't seem to find anything that is long enough without being XXXL. Aside from one single Joe rocket mesh jacket that fits perfectly but is pretty much tattered after the years

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>>17303345
Beta cuck, if you don't control your woman you're not doing it right. Tell her to wear gear or you walk and she can find her spousal income elsewhere
If you actually care anyways.

>>17303545
This to be honest, being a strong independent woman is not a good reason for letting your missus do stupid shit

>>17303554
As ironic as I was being, it's pretty true. If you can't stick up for yourself in the relationship and make your intentions clear then you really need to reconsider your mentality.

Just tell her to wear gear and not be a fucking squid, you shouldn't need to attempt to persuade her into being safe, if anything it's for your sake just as much as hers and she should know that.

>>17303481

https://www.wilsonsleather.com/category/mens/motorcycle-jackets.do?c=100493.100796&sizealias=LT|XLT&pp=72&sortby=ourPicksAscend&cx=0

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>>17303545

After I got my license I promised myself I would buy some cones to practice slow speed shit and slalom etc so I wouldn't get worse at it.
Now, 2 1/2 years later, I finally got around to it.
Now I just need to find some secluded 100 m x 20 m patch of tarmac...

>>17303612
Cute!

>>17302928
I crashed with knee armor on and still couldn't walk right for weeks. She's just delusional and doesn't want to take the time to put on the shit that will save her ass in a crash. People who have never been off a motorcycle before simply don't get it.

Best advice is to let her learn, then she'll get some pants and boots.

>>17302977

Jesus christ you're a cuck

Sit down and talk with her about it, tell her you're worried. You should already know that riding a motorcycle is dangerous and it's about mitigating risk rather than being completely safe. As adults, we chose to mitigate those risks to differing extents. Some chose flip flops and tank tops, others go race leathers under high vis 110% of the time. Many others mix and match as they see fit/can afford.

What you can do is help her find stuff that she likes that may not be motorcycling specific, but enough to save her some scrapes and scuffs. Find her some stretchy, thin riding jeans(A* and Speed and Strength have some). Get her some kevlar leggings to go under her regular jeans. Find some fashion boots made out of decently thick leather.

You have to WANT to wear gear, either from a looks or safety standpoint, so work around that. Find stuff that works for her.

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New bike

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>>17303762
When did they stop making happy daytonas?

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>>17302771
Anything I need to know before buying a topbox?

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>new SV650AL7 just hits 10k km
>suddenly sounds like there is some small particle in the engine

Is it kill? Can it just be some dust or sand from the last tank filling?

>>17302928

Have her get a life insurance policy, offer to pay for it.

I suggest a 250,000-500,000 term life policy. Make sure you're the named beneficiary.

That way when she dies at least you have investment funds.

I don't know what the fucking problem is, women in well fitting moto gear are hot as fuck. Unless they're fat, it's literally impossible for any human to look good fat, in any clothing.

>>17302995

Why would you try to get her to stop doing something she loves so that you can feel more secure?

You're fucking retarded.

Just put your fucking foot down about it, make her read the hurt report, and if that doesn't work wait for her to skin herself you wimpy shit.

>>17303774
Does it fit
Is it big enough

>>17303099

>I don't consider that crashing.

You don't get to determine what is or isn't a crash to preserve your self-aggrandizing version of reality.

You crashed your bike because you were a stupid newbie faggot.

Accept, learn, and move on.

>>17303774

Buy saddlebags instead.

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>>17303770
I think the angrier Daytonas look cooler. The happy ones look cool too, but the 2009-2012 ones are the coolest. I paid 2500 smackers for this.

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What's the best do-everything go-everywhere bike?

Something that can go on trails of all sorts, cruise at highway speed for long distances, go touring around the world, blast around city traffic...

Seems like all options are flawed in one way or another. The DRZ is a bit too heavy and ponderous for trails, and the 5-speed is too narrow. The WR250R is a bit underpowered for the highway. The CCM GP450 is massively overpriced with dubious reliability. The DR350 hasn't been made in 20 years and the suspension in particular is 30 year old technology.... and none of these bikes have ABS.

Seems like there's a huge hole in the market for a 350-450cc do-literally-everything bike with all the modern tech at a fair price. Why won't anybody make this bike???

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Only 8 weeks to go.

>>17303908
Seems like you are looking for a KLR650. Except it has no modern tech in it.

>>17303908
because most people don't do everything and some properties that make bikes better at different things are mutualy exclusive

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>>17303908
Because it already exists, its called the ktm 690.

>>17303853
>get a more impractical way to carry stuff

Why?

>>17303889
Looks pretty good

>>17303909
Try to strap more onto that bike

>>17303908
There's the adventure bikes, they can do all but the windiest trails

>>17303908

>DRZ400
>Too heavy and ponderous for trails

There's no bike that matches your expectations because your expectations are unrealistic and ridiculous.

I ride an XR650L on some of the tightest, most challenging single track I've ever ridden on a regular basis.

You're asking for a no-compromise machine when every single motorcycle ever made is a compromise machine.

Maybe go to the fucking gym if a 145kg bike is too "heavy and ponderous" for you.

>>17303908
>he WR250R is a bit underpowered for the highway.
incoming damage control

>>17303908
>Seems like there's a huge hole in the market for a 350-450cc do-literally-everything bike with all the modern tech at a fair price. Why won't anybody make this bike???
because it's impossible and not financially practical for a business. Small singles and dirt bike chassis won't be good for highway AND trails, no matter how much you want them to be.

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>>17303929
Like this?

>>17303909
is it even enjoyable to ride with that much shit loaded onto your little bike? If I go to SAM I was just planning on strapping a bag of clothes to my passenger seat and filling my little tank bag with whatever else I might need.

>>17303924
Yeah, looks to me it was dropped at a low speed or in a parking lot. It has a cracked headlamp lens, cracked tail fairing, and a cracked front cowl but other than that it's clean. It even starts. The PO was an asshole who took half of the fucking bolts on the clutch and stator covers though.

>>17303908
Why not have a purpose built dirt bike AND a road bike?

You want the best of both worlds without any compromise and it simply does not and will not ever exist.

>>17303914
I think the massive popularity of the KLR is why we can't have nice things. People who want a do-everything bike get a KLR because it *looks* like it'll work off road, but in reality it's way too huge and HEAVY for real off-roaring. Plus the technology is ancient.

>>17303949
MORE LUGGAGE
BUNGEE CORDS FOR THE BUNGEE GOD
LUGGAGE FOR THE LUGGAGE THRONE

>>17303908
Let me get this straight.
You want a light as fuck bike, with a big engine, a comfy seat and a windscreen that can carry heavy stuff.

The closest you can come is a enduro or adv and you have to pick between comfort or lightness.

>>17303961
>who took half of the fucking bolts on the clutch and stator covers though
Maybe he wanted a souvenir

>>17303964
>implying
The KLR can into off-road. Stop meeming you pussy.

>>17303961

Probably had aftermarket covers and took them off. Get it at auction or something?

>>17303977
Any bike can go off road, the question is could you ride it there?

>>17303989
If I can ride my 300+kg adv pigfat bike on dirt roads, lighter bikes can too and more.

>>17303964
It can go off road, I suppose there are better off road Duel Sports but none as good on the road. I'm sure I've seen a WebM about some guy riding a KLR all over the world.

They are popular because the tech is so old school. Quite easy to fix whatever is busted, if you can`t a back yard machine could. Try and guess what could be fucked on a BMW 1200 what just stops versus a KLR. More complexity usually means more failure points.

>>17303977
The biggest issue with these heavy dual sports is when you have to pick them up. Everything's fine until you drop it... do that a couple times and you'll be too wasted to pick it up yourself again. Luggage just compounds things further.

And of course when going low-speed over obstacles you're much more likely to drop a heavy bike.

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>>17303997
I take my anime girls learner bike down fire trails so sure why not

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>>17303989
yes

SEM whenst

>>17303998
KLR seems unnecessarily complex compared to a DR650 or XR650 (what advantage does the KLR derive from being water cooled?). I really don't get why it's so massively more popular than those bikes, besides the big stock tank.

>>17304008
To be fair, the plastics are pathetically weak without crash bars. Thats what I have been scared of before going off road. Weight is something you learn to deal with. My old XT-350 feels like a toy compared to my KLR and the KLR feels much more agile than my DL-1000.

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>>17304015
i see we have a similar taste in off road tyres

>>17304008

Come on man, are you really that weak?

I'm 5'10, 165lb, average fitness, and I have no problem picking my 350lb XR up when I drop it. Even multiple times in a ride.

If you're winded from hard riding already, or on a steep slippery incline, it sure can be a bitch. Not un-doable though. I've picked it up in deep soft sand with 100lbs of camping gear on it, after sprinting 50m to pick up a riding partners bike that fell on them, and sprinting 50m back to my own where I dumped it in the sand.

>>17304020
Liquid cooling is better on the road and in traffic. The KLR650 is more aimed at the road compared to those two.

>>17303916
Do people use these for touring? Unless a KTM is specifically marketed for touring I'd figure the frame is too weak to take luggage.

>>17304029
>160kg
>heavy

What.

>>17304020

KLR is comfy for old men in town and on highways because of all the fairings. It's only popular because of that. Dadmode riders who want the bike version of a Jeep, which they'll never really flog on the trail.

The XR and DR are superior in almost every regard in my opinion.

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>>17304025
yeah, they do fine unless you get into grease mud

>>17304038

Someone was calling the KLR a "heavy dual sport", and it's 180kg wet. Mine is heavier than that with an extra 45kg of extended stay camping gear strapped on. The guy must have bitchwrists or has been doing a high-estrogen diet for trap aesthetics or something.

Is it bad to wash leather gloves in soapy water?

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>>17303853
>what is lane splitting

>>17303792
I sure hope not my man. Also they're being recalled for a faulty ECU so you might wanna check that out

My wizardry initiation is complete
I finally met the MT-07 guy whole he was at his bike.
Here's a recap
>walk up to him
>stand slackjawed for about 5 seconds
>finally say "hi"
>he says hi back
>point at my SV650 and go "mine"
>it goes smoothly from there, we talked about why we chose the bikes we chose and why each other's bikes were better than our own
Kewl. But I really need to get out and talk to people more

>>17304052

It'll dry the leather out and shorten the lifespan unless you follow it up with some kind of leather treatment / neatsfoot oil.

Leather, just like living skin, relies on oils to stay supple and flexible. When it drys out it will become weaker and start to split / tear / fray / abrade.

Getting wet and drying out is one of the things that dries out leather, and it needs to be re-oiled to last long.

>>17303957
I didn't ride like that (with the fat roll like in >>17303949). I did ride 800 km to the SEM and back like this >>17303909 which was fine. The tank bag was the most annoying I guess because it meant I had to sit further back than I like (I have short arms) and couldn't tuck.
The most annoying thing is the additional weight on the rear. I couldn't go faster than 140 km/h because the front would just start to wobble.
For the next meet I'll reduce the luggage. I can probably get rid of the tank bag (replace with flat map thing), leave the blanket at home (even though it did make the tent _really_ comfy) and reduce the stuff in the side bags and backpack so far that I can leave one of those two; which depends on how much shit I can do without. External HDD, most of the camera gear and air mattress pump will stay at home.

In any case I'll still need
>tent (on luggage rack)
>air mattress (wrapped around tent on luggage rack)
Backpack / saddlebags with
>sleeping bag
>water (3 L)
>2-3 changes of clothes
>hoodie + sweatpants for comfiness / makeshift pillow
>hygiene shit
>1 roll of TP (!!!!)
>maybe tire plugging kit just in case
>EDC

>>17304064

Did you fuck?

>>17304043
I see someone took up my mantle and continues the tradition

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>>17303989
>Any bike can go off road
The GS 500 sure as shit can't.

>>17304064
Are you the guy that was butt blasted when someone else was in your parking? Is that the guy that was in your parking spot? If so beat him down in front of everyone so you can have mating rights on the nearby women.

>>17304085
>>17304077
He buttblasted me if you know what I mean

>>17304082
You mean you can't ride the gs500 on dirt?

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>>17302814
CB1000R looks great, fuck you and your hipster bullshit.

Anyways 599s and 919s are rare and expensive as fuck used, but what they don't realize is Super Four's would be even more rare and expensive as fuck, plus how small the 400s are (the pegs are as low as a CB500F just to get the leg room of a CB300F)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQhhitCY1z8

give me a bike that fits this song

>>17304103
>Anyways 599s and 919s are rare

Depends where you are.
the hornet 600/599 is the best selling bike of all time in europe.
they are literally a dime a dozen.

>>17304103
Pegs arent as low as a cb500f on a 400sf...

cb500f can't even use all of its tyres when leaning in corners because of how close to the ground the foot pegs are.
superfour on the other hand can use all of its tyre before the pegs scrape, lean over about another inch after the pegs start scraping on a superfour and you are scraping the exhaust/low sliding.

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>>17302814
Also the Sevenfifty. The only reason the Aussies even got the CB400 is because muh learner bikes.

>>17303982
That makes sense. I bought it at Copart.

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>>17304143
We get the 1300sf as well.

>>17302897
Don't worry about your tendies. Concentrate on being smooth and putting the bike where you want it, speed/lean angle is secondary and will come in time.

I put on supermoto rides in our local area and always tell the new guys, nobody gives a shit if you are slow, work on being smooth and good lines, speed will come. It comes faster if you don't fuck yourself up and have to spend 8 weeks on the couch healing up. Anybody that comes out regularly can ride our pace ( or close too it ) before long. Seat time is what you need.

newfag questions :
>what's the difference between a 50cc and 650cc or whatever engine
>2stroke vs. 4stroke, and why
>why the fuck is the mpg and top speed never mentioned in bike specifications
>why do +125cc literally burn as much fuel as a small car

>tfw you finally bought a Bluetooth headset for your helmet so you can let Lazerhawk carry you away while carving corners at absolutely insane 10° lean angles

>>17304170
the size of the piston
2 strokes are just better
because no one cares
because 125's are for morons but still no cars get 3l/100km, hybrids boast like 6l/100km.

>>17304170
>what's the difference between a 50cc and 650cc or whatever engine
nothing just style
>2stroke vs. 4stroke, and why
same as above
>why the fuck is the mpg and top speed never mentioned in bike specifications
because it is impossible to measure
>why do +125cc literally burn as much fuel as a small car
because they all use the same engines

>>17304170
50 cc has less displacement, thus can burn less fuel at a time, thus makes less power.
2stroke burns fuel twice as often as 4stroke at the same number of crankshaft revolutions per second, thus makes more power. Has disadvantages in terms of emissions.
mpg: nobody gives a shit and bikes have such small engines that mileage is bretty gud. Expect to get around 300 to 400 km per tank.
They don't.

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>>17304174
>what are earphones
>giving your money to the bluetooth jew

/dbt/ please help

I have a 2005 Yamaha xt 225. I've been driving it around all morning but I dropped by my house for like 5 minutes (turned motorcycle completely off) and when I came back, it wouldn't start. All it does is make a single click from the starter solenoid when I try to turn it on.

Battery isn't dead (tested it at 2 places) and it won't bump or jump start.

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Hey /dbt/, rate my new gloves

>>17304174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUK3vqzECaA
>wew lad
I really need an mp3 player because I totaled my last one.

>>17304193
>no knuckles/10
How do you expect to beat people, let alone mirrors, with those pathetic hand coverings?

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>>17304135
Huh weird, looking at cycle-ergo it kind of has to be that way, but actually from the 2D images that Honda Japan puts on its website they're at the same height as the 300.
>turns out for some reason I was comparing peg feeler to peg
Fug.

So yeah 300 and 400SF peg feelers are at the bottom of the rear axle bolt, 500 peg feelers are lower than the swingarm is at the center of the rear wheel.

>>17304193
I never saw the point in the last two digits of my fingers either

>>17304177
>>17304181
thanks for taking me seriously, lately i've taken an interest in bikes but i have no idea where to start, so far all i know is that i'd like to buy some indestructible gook two wheeled shitbox, like some 80s dirt bike or whatever, not sure if it's a good idea for a first bike but who cares, also in regards to two stroke, if it's so good, then why do some manufacturers like honda swear by four stroke, is it because of emission standards or something?

>>17304170
Ameri-fat here, I've never seen a bike that the manufacturer didn't list fuel economy for (about 99% sure it is illegal to sell on-highway vehicles without providing economy information).
>why do +125cc literally burn as much fuel as a small car
Huh? Grom gets around 102 miles per gallon. My 250 gets around 60 mpg hauling my fat ass (me + typical cargo = more than the weight of the bike).

>>17304190
The MN DOT jew doesn't allow the use for "in-ear or ear-covering' headphones in both ears. The Sena's get past that by being speakers that aren't in contact or enclosing.

>>17304208
Soichiro Honda didn't like 2 strokes because they're loud and smoky.

In general 2 stroke road bikes aren't made anymore because of emissions and fuel efficiency.

>>17304212
>The MN DOT jew doesn't allow the use for "in-ear or ear-covering' headphones in both ears
this is AR-pistol-legislation tier of retarded

>>17304213
>>17304212
i guess i was wrong about fuel consumption on big bikes, i was looking up the dr650 and saw 40-45mpg figures which seemed odd, if i cared about high mpg, reliability and passable offroad capabilities what bike should i get that isn't a c90?

anyone ever try or look into importing a bike into the USA ?

I want a CB1300 Superfour.

>>17304212
what the fuck is an MN DOT?

>>17304235
Something that's not made for offroad use because those don't tend to be ridden across long distances. Any naked / standard bike from the mid-nineties onwards is good (save for the GS 500 which is cheap as fuck). If you're dead set on offroading, maybe something like the DR 650.

How does one experience riding a wide variety of bikes, to find out what you want to settle down with?

I've owned 5 bikes, and rode probably 3 loaners for long enough to get a good feel for them. Most of them 2-stroke dirt bikes or 4-stroke dual sports / enduros. So, I've got a pretty good grasp on what I like and don't like on a bike in those categories. I currently own an 80's Japanese touring bike. I've briefly ridden a few other things like a Street Triple, a Sportster, and a CB750 but not enough to really feel them out.

That said, there are thousands of other bikes out there with an insane range of geometries, engine configurations, riding positions, etc etc. So far I've mostly chosen bikes by buying whatever was either familiar to me, or in good condition and in my price range.

I don't have the time or money to cycle through owning dozens or hundreds of bikes to find my one true baikfu, I'm not enough of an asshole to go test ride dozens of bikes for sale by private parties that I have no intention of buying, and dealerships near me generally don't allow test rides.

I've never been to any kind of motorcycling meet, but would strangers really let me ride their bikes? What do?

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>>17304205
really the 400sf isnt even in the same class of bike as the cb300f and 500f.
400sf is a quality ujm built in japan where the 300 and 500 are cheap and nasty bikes built in the philippines which are aimed at markets like singapore/thailand etc which is why they are so cheap and nasty.

>>17304252

Minnesota Department of Transportation, I'm guessing.

Motor vehicle laws are for the most part regulated independently by state agencies in the US. Federal motor vehicle laws mostly regulate new production vehicles and interstate commerce.

>>17304253
i've read a lot of great stuff in regards to the dr650, it fits the bill by being bombproof and halfway between a road bike and a dirt bike plus i have the opportunity to buy one from the mid 90s that's in great condition, however i'm not sure if it's an economical choice fuel-wise and the gas tank is reportedly very small, can i just swap it out for a bigger one if i decide to do some 50ish mile long adventure trips?

Should I buy GoPro hero 5 black?

>>17304284
watch adventure oz's series on the bike if you are actually interested in the dr650.

>>17304284
50 miles is NOTHING. How large is the tank? 5 L / 100 km isn't so bad, that's about as much as my CB 500 drinks. I get like 350 km per tank. I don't know a lot about the DR, is it carbed? FI bikes tend to be more economical from what I hear.

>>17304284

DR650 is a good bike.

The small tank isn't really an issue as long as you aren't truly in the middle of nowhere with 80+ mile distances between fuel sources.

You wouldn't need to make any modifications for 50-60 mile trips at all.

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>>17304284
even my 2 stroke enduro bike can do 120km before needing fuel what are you on about?
dr650 has a range of like 200km with the stock fuel tank and there are many aftermarket options for them.

>>17304295
>>17304300
got it, another bike i'm interested in is the honda cb125, i know it's pretty much third world shithole : the bike but i can get one for less than 500$, is it a reasonable ride in the current year or is it just an outdated piece of shit driven by inbred goatfuckers and cafe racer homos?

>>17304324
dont get a 125

>>17304317
does your bike stay that clean while riding?

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>>17304235
what's your idea of 'passable' offroad?
cb500x will do 75mpg and with long travel suspension and relatively decent ground clearance it can be used for light off road.
Or there's the BMW G650 X-Country, which are fantastic, if you can find one. Not many were sold, and they are no longer in production, most of them have been bought up by people in the ADV community who turn them into long distance adventure bikes.

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>>17302814
V-tec.
It adds excitement to a beginner tier machine, prolonging it's useable life. Frankly, if the suFour came over, we'd stop having the inverted market America has developed.
And they're everywhere. It'd be cheap.
And round headlight. Because fuck you.

>>17304324
$500 is not enough money to get into motorcycle riding.
Buying a bike for less than $1500-$3000 generally means it is completely fucked and needs more money than it is worth spent on it to be road worthy or even rideable in general then you have the part where gear alone will cost you over $500.

Riding motorcycles is not a cheap hobby.

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>>17304339
Sure why not?

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>>17304207
>>17304203
I guess the difference between a dick and a joke is that dbt obviously doesn't know how to take the latter

>>17304341
vtec on a cb400 does nothing but steal bottom end power below 6500 rpm by closing 8/16 valves for better fuel economy when riding in towns or cities.

>>17304340
That picture makes my wiener feel funny.

>>17304275
This is correct.

Also get to report that while picking up the Sena and a tank bag, I had my first 'fucking cagers' moment. Big black Ford truck started making a left hand turn across my lane right in front of me (with no turn signals of course). He finally noticed and slammed on the brakes, taking up about half the lane. I was able to swerve by on the right. If he hadn't seen me, it would have been bad.

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>>17303481
Rev'it is a little style focused, but I love the shit out of their xl-l.
I've got a waxed cotton from them. Survived one at 15, one at 30. Only discernible damage is to the belt---which my girlfriend thinks looks dumb anyway.

>>17303908
Cb500x. Rally raid kit if you're serious about dirt. Otherwise, just get some spokes.

Should I go out in the dark and hope to find a deserted piece of tarmac to do cone shit or should I wait until tomorrow?

>>17304386
The belt probably thinks your girlfriend looks dumb.

>>17304340
i want a bike that's comfy to ride long distance like on a highway, but can also survive a detour through a forest or a field without shitting out its internals, i know you can't really have both but bikes like the dr650 seem to be a reasonable middle ground

>>17304416
then get a dr650.
or stop being poor and look at the first reply to your post.
>>17303916

>>17304371
Does a new rider care?
What about a commuter?

It's hp you can put back into the can. If you've never wanted that, you've never seen ice close up before.

>>17304036
Ask baird, its the same bike as the husky 701.

>>17304433
literally what

>>17304431
will try not being poor in the future, thanks for the help and i hope that in a few weeks time i'll be elligible to shitpost with the best of you about my new dr650

>>17304446
yeah thats it boi.
dr650 is honestly your best bet.
they do kinda need to be modified to be decent bikes though.
the suspension is terrible for an example.

>>17304361
I fear the irony of your post my be lost on you

>>17304446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58vB-5urcJI

>>17303908
>The DRZ is a bit too heavy and ponderous for trails
what?
i don't know how you came to that conclusion but you are wrong.
compared to a full blown competitive enduro bike, maybe.
it only weighs 145kg wet lol.
you are asking not just for a bike that doesn't exist, you are asking for something impossible.
you just need to ask yourself what is more important to you, being comfortable on the highway, or having fun offroad?
i'm sorry but you can't have both.

>>17304036
it's popular for long distance adventure riding. you just throw on aftermarket tank/aux tank and maybe a rally fairing and you are good to go.
the frame is fine for luggage.
the 690r and BMW xchallenge are basically the two main go to bikes for people doing serious off road adventures.
Purpose built 'adventure' bikes aren't really suitable for proper off road. They are too heavy. They are really marketed at people who will use them for commuting to work on the freeway.

>>17304416
>dr650
>comfortable on the highway

boy you are in for a rude awakening

>>17304547
exactly.
get a cheap dirt bike and a road bike.

idk why anyone bothers with the dual sport its stupid.

>>17304570
They stopped making ujm's.

>>17304593
I think the only thing that has stopped production is your brain cells.

>>17304593

>stopped

Niggawut

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>>17304570
or just accept that you wont be comfortable on the highway. you are a young man.
you will survive. whats more, once you are tearing up the trails like a squirrel in heat you aren't even going to remember the sore ass and numb fingers you had riding on the highway to get there.
there are people in africa on chinese 125s with 1950s style twin shocks and wooden seats who ride hundreds of miles on absolutely savage roads just to get anti-viral drugs for their HIV positive rape babies.
get your shit together, anon.

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>>17304627
>who ride hundreds of miles on absolutely savage roads just to get anti-viral drugs for their HIV positive rape babies.

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(Pasted from "why no /mc/")

As long as you let yourselves be ghetto-ized, you'll be stuck in one.
If we started consistently pulling real discussions in individual threads, eventually enough cagers will complain.
Also on topic: know any solid discussion boards for ____ style of riding? Most of what I see is confined to model family (eg: cbr500, v4 muscle, Vespa largeframe)
If you want to test viability for /mc/, try making an adv thread, a riceburner thread, a mod wannabe, and a midlife crisis thread in parallel.
(Maybe should suggest this in deebeeteh)
//Vanity

Ideas? Do you guys care enough?

>>17304627

This. I've rode thousands of highway miles on my XR.

>>17304665
/dbt/ isn't that fast, unless someone starts spamming Harleys or GSs or DRZs we get maybe 300 replies per day. An entire board would be slow as fuck.

>>17304665
no need. dbt is fine.

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>>17304678

>>17304665
No. /dbt/ is comfy.

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>>17304685
Hey dude check it out: OC

>>17304570

>idk why anyone bothers with the highway its stupid.
Get a dual sport and embrace the joy of the backroads.

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>>17304693
!!!

>>17304693
i unironically have a gs500f though

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>>17304693
Saved for future use.

>>17304665

I mean, I have multiple bikes and do lots of different types of riding. I know I'm not the only one here. This thread doesn't move that fast, and even with all the motorcycle posters congregating here sometimes I still don't get answers to my questions.

I think the average population of 4chan is just too beta for there to be enough riders to support multiple regular threads. Motorcycles appeal to those who value independence, personal accountability, and self sufficiency. All of these are qualities which are in short supply among the largely neet / numale / nanny state population of 4chan. So, not many motorcyclists.

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>>17304610
>>17304607
>wide tyres
>forward tilt
>plastic/aluminium
>alloy rims

Go ride a real classic. They're called UNIVERSAL because they don't need mods to go anywhere, do anything.
The #neoRetro bullshit wouldn't exist if they just kept on in the first place.

>>17304707
*Dibs Bedora* :::::DDDDDDDD

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>>17304685

>>17304451
Iirc the much better front suspension from the DR350 dirt models and late street models is a perfect swap-in fit for the 650. You should be able to pick one up for nothing.

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>>17304272
How many times do you need to be told the 500 is targeted at Europe and North America, that's why it has a big long stroke engine built for torks and low pegs for longer legs. They're built in Thailand, and so are the 650s, and so are the CR-Vs and Civics sold in New Zealand and Australia.

Anyways for reference on peg feeler heights
>CB300F ~310mm
>CB500F ~270mm
>CB400SF ~300mm
>CBR600RR ~370mm

At reference ride height the 300 and 500 will drag actual peg just before the exhaust (so the feelers are probably justified for rear compression and peg deflection), the SuFour has a huge feelers but the exhaust is a bit lower than the pegs. 600 has fairly significant feelers that just protect the foot controls.

Sucks I can't get these images for the 650s because they were just updated.

Opinions on the Honda Fireblade Cbr 1000rr?

>>17304733
There's a new one I guess

>>17304707
I feel you on lack of initiative, but do a little experiment.
Go to /JayPee/
Click page 4
Repeat, but a week later.

The neets hit the post limit all the time, while using sage properly. I personally think it'd be better for us specifically.

>tfw while popping off her seat and side covers you begin to realize that baiku is not as pure and innocent as you thought

How did that scratch get here... Why are these not bent at the same angle...

>>17304714

No fedoras necessary.

Go look in half of the threads on /o/. Most posters are dirt poor, unemployed, and live at home. /o/ even compares pretty favorably to other boards. Go look, and you'll find a concentration of unemployed dwellers and emotional cripples that is just staggering. There are, of course, exceptions. Most of them are either newfags that stumbled here because they saw something about 4chan on Gizmodo or Reddit, or oldfags that actually moved on with their lives once the teenage fugue faded and they ventured into the real world.

These people don't ride motorcycles. They don't buy motorcycles. They don't even want motorcycles. They want fidget spinners, body pillows, hug boxes, echo chambers, fan service animes, and for mom to bring them a steady stream of hot pockets.

>>17304714
he's right you know
this is one of the normiest threads on the normie board
you should see what kid of people browse the "main" boards a,b,v...

Anyone familiar with Draggin Protective Motorcycle Gear (Draggin Jeans)? I was looking at getting some proper motorcycle pants and found out these guys are headquartered about 10 minutes from me, wondering if I should take a look at them before going big brand.

>>17304749
>tfw v-twin
>bike is asimmetrical from factory

>>17304757
>implying /dbt/ is not dirt poor and living at home
Do you think anyone would be religiously arguing about 30hp dual sports otherwise.

>>17304665
It's not even about /dbt/ getting split across ghettos, it's that a board would really just split conversations apart and /dbt/ is barely fast enough to remain a regular general on /o/.

>>17304733
They look really cool

>>17304775

/dbt/ obviously has its share of poorfags and parentally handicapped children too.

>Do you think anyone would be religiously arguing about 30hp dual sports otherwise.

This only happens generally between 0700-1400 GMT-7. So, when Euros and the unemployed are active. Euros being cucked by retarded laws and fees, and unemployed just being shit in general. During these times actual productive members of society who are citizens of countries that let you own large displacement bikes easily are at jobs. Some of them, like me, have jobs that allow me to shitpost from my desk.

;_; hugh fucking bike, be ready soon plz. I need it now. This is hell.

>>17304848
>euros are cucked
>meanwhile the guys who can actually afford to race are exclusively yuros and kangaroos
how bout them grapes, mr fox?

>>17304848
>can ride up to a 125 without a license
>get a licence and you can ride anything
what is cucked about this?

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>race base model comes with a muffler but not Honda emblems
The fuck

>>17304902
what? there's several american racers here

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>>17304925
Looks mean af.

HNNNNG.

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>>17302894
Only Kevlar or leather.
Anything else you may as well be naked. Trust me I've tested them all in real life / 30 years of riding

>>17304902
American racers are cucked not by regulations but by the fact that America has long forgotten how to run a business and any decent racing leagues that could be feeders into the international events like MotoGP were ran into the ground by indifferent businessmen.

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>>17302920
You

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>>17305021
Ozzy, eh?

Allright, anon, I have two for you:

1 - Tell us some of those crash stories of yours.

2 - Is the Australian police as bad for motorcyclists as they are said to be for cagers?

From what I hear on the internets they seem to be really anal about even the minor things.

>>17304915

And what does that license cost? What is the annual mandatory insurance premium on a 1000cc bike?

Ok, so the headset + phone may be a little too much for me...

>ok google... directions to arby's
>ok google... avoid highways
>ok google... directions to home
>ok google... play lazerhawk
All without taking my hands off the bars.

Iz I in futures?

>>17305083

Yeah, it's listening to you all the time. You're being integrated into the datasphere mate.

I hate voice nav, and for communicating with my friends on bikes I find a $60 Baofeng radio with a throat mic and remote PTT switch much better than a $300 SENA.

>>17305083
My shitty sena couldn't hear my voice when i tried to make phone calls on it. So I just took the mic out and use it for music.

>>17302775
God that fucking color scheme is sexy

Just realised my lights points directly out instead of down. Cant see any pot holes or man covers and the fucking UK is riddles with them.

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>>17302771
>dbt
'lo dbt

I was wondering if I should get a Yamaha 2004 FJR1300 with 111000 miles, the bike has had everything checked and well maintained, valves and cct checked. It also has öhlins suspension installed.

What would you think? These bikes have been known to ride for fucktons of miles with only oil changes and that tickles my buttons...

>>17305145
You better be getting a VERY good price for that many miles..

>>17305145
Not an expert on that bike but after that much distance I'd be surprised if the valves, clutch and transmission are still fine. Pay attention to those things on a lengthy test ride that includes hard acceleration. Look up the maintenance schedule for FJRs and make sure the PO kept up with it. Check thoroughly for rust and don't be afraid to walk away if something's wrong.

>>17305118
The only time I ever made a call that didn't sound like shit on a helmet com was when I was sitting in a red light.

>CBR600RR might get another half-assed update like the R6
Okay.

RC213V styling would be pretty neat compared to the weird look it has now though, and they seem to be implying that like the new Fireblade the JDM ones would be full power, which is pretty great for that market.

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>>17305182

>>17305182
>>17305186
Why get a 600 when 1000s are more powerful and weight just as much?

>>17305145
>>17305155
yes, the price is low for my country standards,
the valves have been check'd this year, read something about fjr transmissions that needed replacement in some high mileage models but the engine actually costs 500€ in ebay so the swap would not be a catastrophe budgetwise

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Here's a thing.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/tips-for-changing-motorcycle-oil-and-filter-lesson-how-to-for-new-riders#page-5
Anybody else read online magazines? Know any good ones?

>>17305145
don't listen to these fools. Buy the bike!

>>17305082
>license
130€
>mandatory insurance
15€/mo

>>17305206
i'm think of doing some shitty dbt 'zine
like in the ole days of message boards
i remember a while ago there were lots of photographers and even a journalist

>>17305145
>transmission problems
be wary of full optional models having a shitty semi automatic gearshifter

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>>17302928
>riding pants
Instead of riding pants tell her buy semi soft knee guards.
find the balance

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>>17305145
here,
>>17305213
thanks anon.

You know dear /dbt/, lately, me and my friends have been increasingly bored of riding 600-950cc supermotos around town and nearby twisties.
We have ridden track but to properly ride track one would need a high maintenance 450cc, not street legal, because the street bikes you just dont want to crash in order to ride to work the next day.
I have no problems daily driving a sumo but in order to ride so that its fun we'd have to ride in a really stupid fashion in traffic, backing it in and wheelieing etc. and thats just not gonna happen now that I have kids and a job and so on. Just too risky, and I need my licence too.

We really think we are getting old but we have thought that we'd slowly phase out of street moto'ing and get bikes better suited to long distances. We have already seen all the places nearby but Europe is vast and just around the corner. So: In order to be happy I've decided to get a more relaxed bike in order to adventure with (1000km a day -style) and a not-street-legal moto for really going mad at the tracks.

Hold me /dbt/, I have started to like touring bikes, here's hoping the day won't come when I start thinking Harleys seem cool too...

>>17305192
They're still physically smaller, cheaper to insure, and eat less tires for minimal performance difference under sanic speeds.

For the Japanese market though a full power CBR600 would be one of the highest performing JDM bikes ever though (they're speed limited to under where a 1000 pulls away anyways...), just behind the new Fireblade. For whatever that's worth over imports and reverse imports.

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>>17303908
Kawasaki versys X

>>17305259
I dunno, Fireblades are tiny. I mistook one for a 600 when I parked next to it.

>>17305291
this
the superbikes especially so
the rsv4 looks and feels like a 250 except it'll happily keep it's wheel up in 4th

>>17305261
>>17305261
>>17305261
>>17305261

>>17305258
You really need two bikes. Or three. Because growing up

>>17305291
They have really compact bodywork but they still have bigger tanks, wider engines, as such wider frames, and longer wheelbases.

>>17305304
V4s not so much the wider engines though.

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>tfw cant decide between a dr650 and a tr650

As of now im leaning towards the TR. any advice?

>>17304349
>a few thousand
>not cheap

learn to save money

>>17303792
That sounds remarkably like this blog entry I read yesterday, which I found because somebody who was selling an sv650s mentioned that they had recently adjusted the TPS and the IS on it, and I went googling to find out what out that meant

https://thebikersgarage.wordpress.com/2014/05/18/diagnosing-a-bad-throttle-position-sensor-on-a-motorcycle/amp/

>>17305423
DR is significantly lighter so it depends on the offroading you want to do. Do you want to do some serious all-terrain dual sporting, mid-range trails, or just easy trails and fire roads?

>>17305145
There is a little bit of maintenance at that milwage but it's all relatively simple. They are very reliable bikes and good fun if you also want some comfort. The step up to the Gen2 in 2006 is well worth it though having ridden both an 04 and my current 06. Trying to do an engine swap is a mistake though, these bikes aren't completely dead simple like an 80s ujm. You're better off spending a little more now to get a better bike than later on.