[D a i l y Bh o o n e r c y c l e T h r e a d] - /dbt/

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is tom hardy /ourguy/?

hyperanon, just buy a switch

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>>17088415
They do where i live

>>17088415
I'm a club hang around.
Not a gang though, although technically on an a FBI watch list.
Hang around only because my Dad's prez of a chapter.
Also a purely sport bikes club, no faggy cruisers

>>17088522
Still gay as fuck my dude. Motorcycle clubs may as well wear pride patches as a requirement,

>>17088485
Yeah, Mongols and Hells Angels operate in northern Nevada.

Especially Reno.

>>17088539
Meh, the dudes are cool, the comradery is nice.
Not going to actually prospect though. Too much politics.
Also, they can party like nobodys business. I grew around it and have the ability to drink anyone under the table. Trade off is I'm an alcohol, but that's also partly due to my depression.

>>17088568
How is life as an alchahol?

>>17088568
youre an alcohol huh

too bad

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Sexi

>>17088579
Not too bad. I think my morning irish coffee is tasty.
Only thing is the times when I can't be inebriated I get massive headaches.

>>17088607
>Going through DTs on a regular basis.
Feels bad man

>>17088598
Where'd the windshield go?

>>17088193
>I'm saying you are a lesser rider if you only ride under a narrow set of conditions

I can't remember the last time I read a post this autistic

>>17088598
I disagree. I think it looks weird. The lights looks like those funny-eyes thing you glue on paper. Someone should shoop that in.

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>>17088584
>>17088579
>newfags itt

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>>17088598
RIP old sportbikes

>tfw it's all edgy design, 250/300cc twins, and 600/1000cc i4s now

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>>17088788
that bike is fucking ugly

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>>17088801
You're fucking ugly.

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>>17088810
>old sportbikes so much better!
>posts the ugliest possible versions of them
cmon m8

Still don't know if I should get an XR400 or a DRZ400 for trail riding.

>>17088652
Wreck your bike?

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I've got an Indian scout sixty and someone earlier who has one as well mentioned putting in progressive springs to replace the shitty stock ones that dive hard when braking. I'm new to owning a motorcycle but have worked on cars since I can remember, done motor swaps, differentials, etc. I'm mechanically inclined basically. Now how hard is it to swap springs in a set of forks? I don't know what to look out for. Are they under a lot of compression like struts in a car? What else is there to be cautious of?

>>17088788
You're neglecting that those 600 and 1000cc I4s are practically as small as the 400cc I4s you are jerking off instead of weighing 600lbs like they did then.

>>17088857
Drz400 has a much better aftermarket, something to think about.

>>17088886
Ive never done it, everybody pn the Indian forums reccomend them.

Im about 175 pounds, the front is too soft for me.

>have 30hp shitbike
>blast away from stop lights like a mad banshee
>still faster than 90% of cars out there in traffic
>lane spit like a mong through rush hour to get home
>turn a 40 minute drive into 15 minutes on surface streets
>final turn before my neighborhood jump the curb into an easement and haul ass offroad sliding back onto the road and into my hood
>scrape peg around final bend onto my street waving at R6 biker bro that lives on the corner
>stoppie into driveway

I never knew these fun commuting feels until I got a shitbike.

>>17088824
you cum guzzling queer nothing wrong with that vfr

>>17088568
Yep. I prospected for a particular motorcycle club too. Decided against it for endless reasons.

Kinda wish there were MC clubs for adv bike riders, where everyone would wear full ATGATT and ride their BMWs and KLRs to bars but get drunk and pick fights like OS MCs but it'd be like a band of shitty asshole knights off game of thrones.

>>17088857
WR250R has similar power to weight of a DRZ but weighs less than 300lbs

>>17088857
If it is only being used off road why not get a proper dirt bike?
If it has to be a honda or suzuki the crf450x comes to mind and so does the rmx450z.

>>17088993
The DRZ400 and XR400 are both en a different realm of reliability and maintenance compared to the very maintenance intensive CRF450 and RMX450's

>>17088985
wr250r has a piss poor engine that isnt suitable for highway use

>>17089009
Says who?

WR250R is arguably better on the highway than a DRZ400 and the motor is bulletproof.

>>17088882
I haven't experienced that in a long time desu

>>17089009
t.neverriddenaWRRonthehighway

>>17089009
lol a WR250R is 10 times better on the highway than an XR400 will ever be

>>17089009
You might be thinking of a cfr250?

>>17089001
They are also in a different realm of performance being heavy and under powered.

If you are poor that is fair enough i guess but maintaining an enduro bike really does not cost much.

>>17089009
>isnt suitable for highway use

lol okay

https://youtu.be/lqu7lKcmQJY?t=1m22s

why do you fags feel the need to touch yourselves furiously whenever someone mentions wr250

its an OK dual purpose bike

its shit for highway use

>>17089065
If He's looking at a DRZ400 and an XR400 he's likely looking at a reliable form of transportation and/or long distance dual sport/adventure bike.

An RMX and CRF are shit at these things.

It's not about being poor, its about wanting a bike for something other than playing with in the woods then having to tear apart every other ride.

>>17089069
if you try and go 70-75 mph on the highway in the city I work in youll have cars trying to crawl up your tail pipe all day every day

no thanks, its too slow

>>17089077
see:
https://youtu.be/lqu7lKcmQJY?t=1m22s

If a WR250R is shit for highway use then so is a DRZ, XR400, XR650, etc.

WRR's can cruise forever at 75+mph, top out at around 100mph, get 60-70mpg while doing so, and only need an oil change every 3000 miles.

What else would you need a bike to do to be "good" on the highway?

>>17089099
I live in LA area and keep up with traffic fine on a WR250. I commute every day at ~85mph passing traffic on the freeway lane splitting.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>17089085
he said
>XR400 or a DRZ400 for trail riding.
not for riding down the highway.

>>17089100
It needs to do 90mph in first gear because shifting is too much work

>>17089100
>dual sports aren't good for highway
right
>What else would you need a bike to do to be "good" on the highway?
Strong engine, tall top gear, lots of torks, wind protection, stable steering geometry, comfortable seat, etc.

>>17088886
Good taste.

>>17089111
Biggest reason I'm looking at the drz and xr is the maintenance. I don't get to go out often, and I don't want to spend half of my free time working on the bike. It needs to be able to sit for months, start after a few kicks and be flogged before being put away again.

fuck you guys are autistic.
the guy asked about an xr400 and drz400 for trail riding and you sperg lords start arguing about riding a wr250r down freeways...

>>17089126
yet millions of people the world over commute on dual sports with less power and shittier highway manners than the bikes mentioned here just fine.

But I guess you're the expert...

>jacket
>boots
>gloves

What are you wearing, what do you want, what did you wreck?

>>17089126
my bike has a relatively tall 6th gear but fuck all for torque its fine though

downshift once or twice even from the passing lane (thats the far left lane for all you idiots who cruise there going the same spped as those to your right) rev it to the moon you can overtake just fine

>>17089140
if you are riding off road you still need to do nearly as much maintenance on something like a drz as you would a high strung enduro.

you are still going to be washing it after every ride, cleaning the air filter after every ride and you might get a ride or two more between oil changes.

If you arent going to be riding sweet fuck all id go all out and getting the high strung bike.

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>>17088886
>Indian scout sixty
> damper rod forks.

It's not the springs that let the front dive, it's the old-fashioned "damper rod" forks.

Modern bikes use "cartridge" forks, which contain a cartridge much like the strut of a car. It uses a shim stack for damping, etc.

One of the fave cheap-out options on bikes is to use the much-cheaper "damper rod" forks, that use a rod with a hole in it as a damper.

Now, the resistance of an uncompressable fluid raises to the square (or was it cube?) of velocity, so the result is that you have very harsh forks over bumps, and not enough damping to resist brake dive.

BTW cartridge forks have been available since the 80's, so fuck the makers who use them, but all the entry level models use them. R3, sv650, 300 ninja, etc.

The upgrade you want isn't springs, but a drop-in sorta-cartridge-upgrade thingie called a "cartridge emulator" from Race-tech. The install requires you drill more holes in the damper rod, then reassemble and stick the emulatro between the srping and rod. It's a compression-only cartridge that uses a screw-adjustable spring for compression adjustment. The result is pretty plush over the bumps, but very little dive and good control.

>>17089156
>>17089163
what are you trying to prove? I never said it's not possible to ride a dual sport on the highway. You asked what is "good" for highway riding and I gave a list of good qualities.

>>17088959
Shitbikes are very powerful, sometimes not in the streets, but in the feelings they provide.

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>>17089157
>joe rocket comet jacket
>hiking boots
>$15 leather gauntlets off amazon
>bell vortex helmet

Vortex is alright but loud as fuck and I don't have the money to replace it all yet. Haven't wrecked anything yet, it's my first gear, been riding almost a year now.
I want those Icon Elsinore boots though, they look badass. They look like tanker boots. I'm iffy about the side zipper though. Zippers are up there on my list of cheap *convenient* shit that wears out along with velcro.

>>17089179
Wow thanks for the info. Definitely going to look more into it to make sure I don't fuck something up. I mentioned I've worked on a lot of cars, never said I fixed any of em

>>17088922
Weight maybe, but the shop near me has a 90s gsxr400 and the thing is small as fuck.

It's some special Japanese version with a computer controlled carburetor there was only a couple hundred made

>>17089227
Those look homosexual

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL8uTl6PB2k

Jesus christ that crash

>>17089263
>crash
That was 'dropped once in a parking lot' tier

>>17089276
Click bait joke I believe

>>17089227
Guy all motorcycle boots look like that and 'tanker boots' are just engineer boots which have been around since before tanks.

>>17089263
it's a miracle he survived

>>17089141
>>17089180
The WR250R was mentioned as an alternative to the DRZ400 and XR400.

An attept to disqualify based on it "not being suitable for highway use" here:
>>17089009

This is a garbage argument given the context because the WR250R is just as good if not better on the highway than the DRZ400 and XR400

tl;dr learn to context retards.

>>17089291
>all motorcycle boots look like that
Hahahaha no they fucking don't. Where else can I find classic looking motocross boots? Boots today are either: plastic power ranger mx boots, motogp booties, and fugly "engineer boots" for harley riders.
>'tanker boots' are just engineer boots which have been around since before tanks
Thanks for the history lesson but who cares about the nomenclature? Search Google Images/Wikipedia for both engineer and tanker boots. You get pretty different results.

>>17089227
>Vortex is alright but loud as fuck and I don't have the money to replace it all yet.
take the padding out then tape off the vents behind the ears. Thats what makes it so loud on those helmets.

Drop some plastic cement in the exterior of the vent to quiet it up more, make sure its taped off before you do this.

>>17089263
fuck off you dirty wigger. No one cares about your shit tier videos.

>>17089276
>>17089288
>>17089339
>actually falling for a retarded motovloggers shit tier blatant guerrilla marketing on 4chin to boost views on his garbage content.

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Is that the vin card that's been scratched off?

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>>17089009
>wr250r has a piss poor engine
lol

wr250r has a better engine than DRZ

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>>17089291
>>17089357

>>17089392
shit tier pic cant see what you're even talking about

>>17089384
99.99% of motovloggers are fucking retards

the only good ones normally record separately instead of talking to the camera while they ride or aren't riding on the street when they do it

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>>17089157
Are these high enough above the ankle for the memelords on /dbt/?

>>17089408
not if you actually like your ankles. and why do they taper downwards in the back? the fuck is the point of that

better than hiking boots tho

>>17089392
yes

>>17089408
Those boots suck

>>17089408
Those are just fine until you get on a motorcycle.

>>17089404
VIN is usually stamped onto the steering neck

>>17089408
won't do anything for your ankle.

Pick them up in the store, you'll be able to fold them in half I guarantee.

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>>17089408
You realize you could get a practically the same looking full length boot and just wear it under your pants unless you're a skinny jeans fuccboi if you're so concerned.

Or those Dainese in pant boots or whatever.

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>>17088788
only if you're buying jap scrap.

Plenty of interesting triples and L-twins and shit out there if you bothered looking.

>>17089446
wow great quality pic, which pixel is the bike

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>>17089357
And to add on, I was going to buy those $100 O'neal mx boots but since my dual sport riding is mostly around town and through the woods, I figure a beefy leather boot would be adequate for that riding + hopping off the bike and walking in town.
>>17089372
I've taped the inside, along with taping the outside of the vents and even adding foam to insulate but it's still bad enough that I have to wear earplugs. I think the ridges are part of the problem in pic related. There's also a lot of wind noise around the neck, the chin/neck curtain don't do a good enough job.
But whatever, it's a sub $200 helmet and noise is the price of ventilation.

>>17089435
I heat you, but I'm usually going to work on my bike, not qualifying for a MotoGP championship

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>>17089446
>says jap scrap
>posts an unreliable pile of shit britbongcycle.

top lel

>>17089455
>it's still bad enough that I have to wear earplugs.
You mean like 99% of helmets on the market?

>>17089455
>sub $200 helmet.

I hope you paid less than $100 for it.

I bought one last year as a spare for $80.

>>17089470
Put your shoes on at work

Any poorfag alternatives for a Sena? Most if the Bluetooth earbuds I've seen look bulky.

>>17089475
you mean 100%?

>>17089477
probably because it was manufactured like 2 years earlier than a full price one

>>17089471
>tfw your manufacturer isn't even on the list

>>17089179
Thanks Broski, excellent info

>>17089488
I got 2 Bluetooth/Mic and speaker things for like $130. They're called buyee Bluetooth communicators or something on Amazon. With pretty well and can pair with senas

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>>17089492
Because they would have to scale down the graph to make it go all the way to 90%

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>>17089455
Does it have a chin curtain?

>>17089490
Manufacture date doesn't matter for motorcycle helmets. The EPS doesn't deteriorate with age or react to skin oils or sweat, that's a myth.

>>17089490
I am willing to entertain the possibility that Gold Wing dude with a completely sealed up touring meme helmet might not need them.

>>17089508
"I replace the intake rocker every three oil changes"

I was so happy to discover my Duke is actually made by Bijaj

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>>17089508
Nah

Idk how they are now that they're using Italian engines but the older ones are great.

>>17089490
>>17089512
This.
http://www.bhsi.org/helmetlineraging.htm

>>17088886
>scout 60
Why not get the men's scout

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>>17089512
How long until I need to replace new helmet, then?

>>17089512
They don't deteriorate naturally like that but over time they can lose effectiveness (not always). so it's safer to replace anyway.

Plus manufacturers/dealers get rid of their old stock for cheap to make room for the new models and new graphics so they get sold for cheap.

>>17089541
As long as there has beeen no crushing damage to the EPS liner, the outer shell is intact, the strap works, the inner liner is comfortable, and you can see out of it. You can keep and use a motorcycle helmet forever.

>>17089536
>bicycle helmets

>>17089541
It's not that EPS only lasts 5 years. It's that over time, it MAY lose its effectiveness, and it's safer just to replace it because there's no way to know.

>>17089554
Today you learned bicycle helmets and motorcycle helmet liners are made of the same EPS foam for impact absorption.

That same EPS foam is the part of the helmet that the myth says deteriorates. This myth has been perpetuated for motorcycle and bicycle helmets alike.

That study thoroughly busts that myth.

>>17089554
>It's that over time, it MAY lose its effectiveness
[citation needed]

The only way it will loose effectiveness is if the helmet liner suffers some sort of crush damage such as the helmet being in an accident.

>>17089554
As the MC helmet market is vanishingly small compared to the bicycle helmet market, the big research dollars are going into bike helmets.

As to your second point, no. That what the study was about. It's not the first, either.

>>17089541
Hey, yah punk kid

Buy a new one when you wanna new one

>>17089567
everybody knows motorcycle helmets are EPS you retard, motorcycle helmets are tested much more rigorously and endure much harsher impacts.

>That same EPS foam is the part of the helmet that the myth says deteriorates.

I literally just said that it doesn't deteriorate, please learn to read

>Essentially, Dr. Snively’s tests showed a great inconsistency in the lifespan of helmets. Whether they were of the same make and model, exposed to the same elements on a rooftop over years, or they were the battle-worn helmets of police officers, tests showed that over time some performed flawlessly while others were inadequate. Becker explained that among the CHP helmets, Dr. Snively “found that some as old as 12 years tested as if they had just rolled out of production, while others of the same vintage failed miserably.”

This is why you replace them

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>>17089567
Interdasting. From WIkipedia about polystyrene:

Polystyrene is very slow to biodegrade and is therefore a focus of controversy among environmentalists. It is increasingly abundant as a form of litter in the outdoor environment, particularly along shores and waterways, especially in its foam form, and also in increasing quantities in the Pacific Ocean...

So it can last a million years at the bottom of the ocean, but only five on top of your head? I'm skeptical of the "replace every five years" thing...

>>17089593
>everybody knows motorcycle helmets are EPS you retard
pointing out that the study was in regards to bicycle helmets was pretty stupid then wasnt it?

>motorcycle helmets are tested much more rigorously and endure much harsher impacts.
Which is exactly why you should replace a helmet any times it's in a crash. Bicycle or motorcycle. Also don't use used helmets who's history you don't know.

Follow this simple practice and it doesn't matter how old your helmet is. replacing it every 5 years if it has not suffered a crash is stupid.

>>17089576
>The only way it will loose effectiveness is if the helmet liner suffers some sort of crush damage such as the helmet being in an accident.
false

see:
>>17089593
https://www.bikeminds.com/thethrottlestop/replacing-your-motorcycle-helmet
>Having seen helmets buffeted by all manner of care, use and abuse over the 32 years he’s been with Arai, Weston pointed out the various ways in which material deterioration affects helmet safety, noting that plastics and rubber components dry out and lose elasticity, and glues holding trim and liner components dry out and lose their grip.
>the softer EPS liner inside a helmet can be damaged if stored improperly or subjected to heat and/or chemicals
note how they are NOT saying it just deteriorates naturally over time, things can happen to a helmet OTHER THAN ACCIDENTS that make them lose effectiveness. The 5 year rule is just a rule of thumb, nobody is saying EPS only lasts 5 years.

But hey, it's your head.

>>17089596
Hey don't fuck with marketing, man. Retail sailes to NEETs is the engine of democracy

>sick as fuck riding to work
>coughing and sneezing all over the inside of my helmet
>get to work and put it on my desk
>co-worker comes up during lunch, puts my helmet on
>don't say anything
rip

Are cush drives a meme? I'm looking to pick up a KTM 525 EXC soon and might want some motard wheels for it. Is cush drive worth it?

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>>17089606

> science
vs
> manufacturers marketing rep

Whats the most protective motorcycle helmet? I wear a 9lb steel helmet mask deal at work so I don't care about weight or bulkiness.

I do care if it has the internal flippy smoke lens visor on the inside. My helmet I have now has that and I can can never go back to swapping visors.

>>17089634
Do you have a cush hub clutch? If not, then you need a cush drive if you do pavement

>>17089635
>SNELL
>a nonprofit organization
Guess there's not much point in trying to convince you because you are clearly already brain damaged

>>17089644
>Whats the most protective motorcycle helmet?
Not one with an internal flippy visor

>>17089644
The EPS liner crushes on impact, and the more liner to crush, the more protective it will be (in broad, general terms). The big full-face helmets do well here. The helmets that try to fit close to the head (like half helmets and the shit they sell to hipsters.)

>>17089644
>not just wearing the tint at night
I've never had an issue with seeing at night with the tint in, and I ride home at night every day

>>17089651
>SNELL
>same organization that implemented flawed SNELL 2005 standards which made helmets with their sticker less safe for motorcycle riders because they were designed for unrealistic crash standards
>got raked over the coals for it and had to completely revise standards for SNELL 2010
>Most tracks don't even allow SNELL 2005 helmets and require SNELL 2010.

You're seriously holding this shit tier organization up as credible?

>>17089658
>no internal flippy visor
Fuuuuhk. Why not?

>>17089671
So my guess is to find the heaviest bulkoest full face with DOT and EU certs?

What do motorcycle racers wear?

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>>17089676
pic related

>>17089651
You didn't quote SNELL, you quoted Brian Weston, Managing Director of Arai Helmet. He's in the business of convincing you to buy a new helmet.

I'm a fan of Snell, both for the lower-than-dot impact limits and the continuing QA program. And none of that is about how long your damn helmet lasts.

Helmets are like the rest of your outfit, buy a new one when you want to, or the old one looks like ass, or whatever. I've always hated the goddamned hard sell of BUY A NEW ONE NOW because vague scary something...

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>>17089651
>>17089676
>>17089687
>Snell
>non-profit

Who is heavily in bed with major helmet manufacturers who try to shut down any Snell detractors.

>>17089649
The 525 is too old for that

>>17089682
Because a piece of plastic and a spring mechanism between the road and your head is not helpful for impact protection. There's still some really good safe flip down visor helmets, they are just never going to be the absolute #1 safest.

Arai in particular has some big autistic thing about mounting their sun visors on the outside on top of the existing visor mechanism.

>>17089682
Racers wear SNELL approved helmets.

Actually, they were their sponsors products. Price doesn't buy more safety, but it does buy you some comfort and fit and so on.

Go to a store with a decent bunch of helmets in stock for you to try (including some cheepies, not just high-end stuff), and try helmets on until you find one with a good fit that looks good to you. If you are in the US it needs to be DOT by law, ECE in Europe, and Snell is a somewhat tighter approval standard plus a QA program (they buy helmets at retail and test them to ensure no quality slips). So that's nice.

>>17089634
>>17089649
WR250R/X doesn't have cush drive and gets on fine without it.

Some people claim the shitty steel of KTM countershafts require a cush hub or the countershaft gets eaten up. I haven't seen anything proving this though.

>>17089687
>>17089700
Yes, we know. We also know he's wrong. It's a writer with no knowledge of metrology publishing stuff that isn't true, and crying about it when he got fired for it.

>>17089733
WR250R also has no power.

Please be gentle. So my rear tire feels like it keeps wanting to slide out from under me I did a burn out and it looks like it should get more grip, but still slides around. New tire time? I still have a good amount of tred left

>>17089737
>We also know he's wrong.
[citation needed]

>publishing stuff that isn't true, and crying about it when he got fired for it.
Except the magazine editor acknowledged that he was right but fired him anyway because he caved to advertiser pressure.

Advertisers like Shoei and Arai who were/are heavily in bed with Snell.

Even the president of Snell acknowledge that their testing was flawed.

Hell if the complete revision of Snell 2005 to Snell 2010 wasn't an acknowledgement by the organization itself, nothing is.

>>17089750
stop riding like a pussy, you faggot.

>>17089741
XR650R's are reliable as fuck on non-cush hub wheels on the street too. And they are not even meant for the street.

checkmate atheist.

>>17089750
It's not sliding, you're just a pussy. Lean the fucker over.

>>17089741
it's not about power, it's about driveline shocks from rapid changes in torque when you apply brakes, go over bumps, jumps, or whatnot

also WR250R has about as much power as a DRZ lol

>>17089741
are you claiming that the power a KTM puts out is somehow stripping a splined shaft without a rubber cush hub?

Really?

>>17089676
>Most tracks don't even allow SNELL 2005 helmets
Because you're supposed to have SNELL rating that is current or previous (every 5 years) you dumbass lmao

it's so people don't show up at the track with 15 year old helmets that won't do anything in a crash

>>17089634
KTM countershafts are allegedly rather soft and will wear out if you ride a lot of street miles. A cush hub is supposed to help with this. Also make sure you have a good-fitting steel front sprocket.

I have a 13 year old 450EXC (same bike minus a few mm cylinder bore) and the counter shaft still looks fine. It is typical of brand-specific communities to overplay a very rare issue and make it sound like it will happen to every bike.

>>17089775
>not about power
>rapid changes in torque
>WR250R makes no torx

>implying the DRZ has power

>>17089781
I've seen a fair amount about spline issues, yes.

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>>17089687
>>17089700
>>17089752
>We also know he's wrong.
>[citation needed]

OOOkay

As TLDR as I can make it:

When your head hits the ground, it stops very quickly. Like in 4 ms. That produces a LOT of G forces for a very short time. If you were to draw it on a graph, it would look like pic related.

>>17089790
>I've seen a fair amount about spline issues, yes.
One more reason not to buy a KTM.

I've literally never heard of bikes having countershaft spline issues, even heavily modified bikes used in racing.

Why can't KTM into good steel?

>>17089790
>being this retarded intentionally, acting like you didn't just realize that you're wrong
aight m8, whatever you want to pretend to believe

>>17089799
>actually believing some random retard on 4chan who posts shit without a source
>being this jelly of KTM owners
cringed

>>17089794
your post literally did nothing to address the claims or how shit Snell 2005 is.

How about you start by trying to justify the same test mass being used for every head size.
Something the acting president of Snell acknowledged was flawed in Snell 2005 testing.

>>17089811
>they acknowledged it was bad
>it's been fixed
>that was 12 YEARS AGO
This guy just can't admit that he's wrong

>>17089810
why would anyone be jealous that KTM can't make good gear steel and you have to bandaid fix it with a cush hub else it eat itself?

Honda put a torquier motor in a heavier bike with the XRR without a cush hub and has no issue with countershaft wear.

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>>17089794

Now, what a helmet does is take that short, high-G shock, and spread the envergy out over a longer time. See pic.

Note that the TOTAL energy is the same, due to the first law of thermodynamics. Your head will still go from whatever speed it was going to zero. Can't change that. But instead of a sudden stop, you get a gentle slow-down.

>>17089815
How was he wrong if he wrote the story pointing out how shit Snell 2005 was while helmets were being made to Snell 2005 standards. Before Snell 2010 even became a standard.

He was never wrong. He did consumers and the motorcycling industry a huge service by pointing out flawed Snell standards and warning consumers of the dangers of these shit standards.

>>17089827
Everyone knows how fucking helmets work you autistic mongoloid.

>>17089841
I'm talking about you. It's cool if you want to be a cheap jew and use old ass helmets though, I don't think anyone will miss you. /dbt/ sure won't

>>17089824
>i just heard it on 4chan so it must be true
lol

/dbt/ is worse than reddit now with all these newfags jesus christ

>>17089794
>>17089827
>>17089811

Patience friend. You want to be dumb? I'm going to tell you about how helmets work. And I'll get to your hero, too. And headforms.

part 3:

So how does a helmet turn a 600G bang into a 100G push? By being soft. By softly crushing, gently slowing your silly head. Think of a hand catching a falling egg. The hand gives a little, the egg is safe. Think of an egg hitting the pavement. Pavement does not give, egg is scrambled.

Dexter's entire argument is that Snell helmets are too stiff, not enough soft, and that DOT helmets are softer than Snell helmets. He is wrong, and I am enough of an autistic asshole to explain to a mongolian animal husbandry image board exactly how wrong he is.

>>17089862
I pointed out that you are holding up Snell foundation as credible when they put out a shit tier standard and made helmets less safe for five years.

Then claiming that they are "non-profit" so they must be good when the M2005/M2010 fiasco happened it is clear that are heavily embedded with major helmet manufacturers that used shady tactics to try to silence perfectly valid dissent and criticism against Snell.

>>17089879
>So how does a helmet turn a 600G bang into a 100G push? By being soft. By softly crushing, gently slowing your silly head.

ITT: some retard states the obvious and pretends like he's smart.

>Dbt shit flinging again
Can't we all just get along?

>>17089841
ok fatso. Snell back in 2005 allowed a 300G limit. DOT then as now allows a 400G

How is 400G less than 300G? In Dexter Ford's weak little mind, it is.

His argument is that DOT, unlike SNELL, has a time limit on how man ms the impact waveform can remain above 200G, and that limit effectivly makes the dot limit 200G. Which is bullshit.

>>17089900
literally nowhere in his article did he say that:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/automobiles/27SNELL.html

Snell testing required two consecutive sub-300g impacts. In order to survive two significant impacts such as this the lining had to be excessively stiff.

>>17089896
no

>>17089896
Americans are too fat and dumb for that

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>>17089900
>>17089883

Take a look at pic related. it's the DOT report for a typical Snell rated full face helmet, the HJC CL-x6 helmet. Max impact is 183G's. Bretty good, ja?

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>>17089953
Now let's look at the DOT report for a nifty DOT only helmet, the Gmax 55s. Note the underlined parts. 284G's!!1! But Dexter said all snell helmets are stiffer and less softy-nice than DOT only helmets!

>>17089785
Snell 2005 helmets were no longer allowed by most organizations a year after Snell 2010 came in, they still allow 2010s now because 2015 has basically identical safety requirements and just changed the testing and certification process slightly.

>>17089953
>>17089965
>cherry picking single helmets
>uncited sources
>likely posting Snell 2010 data.
>red herring-ing the fuck out of the argument with shit that never was argued

>>17089953
>HJC CL-x6
>>17089965

Is this retard really trying to compare a full face Snell helmet to a barely legal DOT skull cap?

Jesus dude, you lost the argument.

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>>17089953
>>17089965

>>17089939
>> Snell testing required two consecutive sub-300g impacts. In order to survive two significant impacts such as this the lining had to be excessively stiff.

See >>17089953
183 G's is not stiff. And that's a Snell helmet.

You wan't to see stiff? Here yah go.341 G's and it PASSED DOT. This helmet (the THH T-72) would fail any version of the snell standard, any year

>>17089965
The problem is when he says DoT helmet he's thinking of something like a sun visor Shoei with an ECE certification in the Euro market that Snell won't even test and not a $50 piece of shit that nobody's even sure would pass the test because DoT enforcement is a joke.

>>17090000
>THH T-72
>Gmax 55s

It's very telling that all of your DOT helmet examples are shit tier skull caps from no-name companies.

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>>17089985
All these test results are available from the US NHTSA. They did the testing using contract labs.

>>17089994
My argument is that SNELL helmets can be (and typically are) soft and DOT will allow helmets so hard it will kill you. And Ford knows this.

But here, have a NOLAN N84 full face DOT only helmet, 346 Gs

>>17090021
>And Ford knows this
Alright I just got in this thread, what is going on here?

>>17090021
>NOLAN N84
Another no-name company.

All you're proving is that shit companies make shit helmets.

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>>17090003
>>17090015
see
>>17090021

you've heard of Nolan?

>>17090039
>you've heard of Nolan?
Nope

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>>17090038
>>NOLAN N84
>Another no-name company.
You've heard of Casey Stoner?

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Just got my first bike. Is it any good? Don't mind the lettering on the windshield, came I'm taking it off.

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>>17090038
Dude guy please

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What do you guys think about the Hyosung gt250r?

I know its a pretty shit tier bike, but I can grab one for around $1000 - $1500 AUD, and It seems perfect as a learner bike to throw around.

Is it good to ride?
Are parts cheap and easy to find?

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it's the most wonderful time of year

that's right

it's

IRISH ROAD RACING SEASON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaQwmIg2EcU

how the fuck do you guys follow it? you DO follow it, right, /dbt/?

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So should I get DOT or SNELL?

>>17090061
ECE

>>17090061
>>17090061
All motorcycle helmets sold in the US are required to meet or exceed DOT standards

>>17090061
DOT is mandatory by law.
SNELL as long as it is M2010 standard or newer.
Preferably ECE certified because Snell a shit.

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>>17090061
>>17090070
>>17090078

>>17090060
Isle of Mann seems like the type of race you have to participate in for 5-10 years just to remember the track and all the good lines before you even can think about being competitive.

>>17090103
>wearing iron
>being level 1 def
pures when will they learn

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>>17090100
>Snell a shit

>>17090061
All SNELL helmets also pass DOT, by law. your choice is DOT only or DOT plus SNELL

The added value of Snell is:

1) A legit 250G max impact standard.
2) A continuous QC program. Snell buys helmets at retail several times a year, and re-tests them to ensure no quality fade. This is important. LS2, for example, had a helmet (the OF566) that was great through the first batch, then a later batch failed NHTSA testing

>>17090060
>>17090111
Someone have that video where the dead guy in leathers casually slides into the curb/wall at Isle of Mann?

>>17090118
Oh, yah, and snell hits the helmets harder in testing.

>>17090111
In TT3D they said it takes most riders 2-3 years to learn the track.

>tfw the more often and longer you ride, the jankier your 1998 bike seems

Lots of weird rattles and burnt smells coming from the engine area

At least it keeps my legs warm

>>17090133
>Burn smells

Do they happen at random times and are impossible to replicate on demand? cuz I get that shit.

>>17090124
That was Simon Andrews
R.I.P. in peace.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=856_1401078283

https://youtu.be/pn32Qz06cUE

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>>17090160

>>17090138
Yes

The gearbox rattle is twice as worrying though. Woah, fuck.

>>17090160
I can't help but think how awesome that crash would look close up with super high frame rate slow motion

>>17090160
I cant believe they still allow professional racing on courses with exposed curbs.

He probably would have been find had they barriered off the curbs.

>YammieShit's new video
>"I got rekt again"
>"buy my shirts and donate pls
https://youtu.be/tW7QsonSouk

>>17090218
>I don't understand road races

The post

>>17090186
What kind of rattleing, when does it happen?

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>>17090229
I'm not even mad this time, just wanna see how many more Daytonas he can crash, maybe even set a new record!

>>17090059
its a budget cbr250.
dont get one older than 09 they're fucked.
parts are fairly interchangeable with suzuki and it's easy to throw around. i've had one for two years now. just change the plug caps to suzuki ones and you're golden (if you've changed them you get that pun)

>>17090021
What size helmet though? Half the problem with M2005 was having one head form rendering the test fucked at the far ends of the size spectrum.

The two impact thing is more complicated, technically a "medium" sized helmet has to do the same 275G with Snell or ECE, but the second impact requires a beefier helmet which makes it harder to get significantly below 275 for the same cost/technology. (the helmet makes up ~25% of the total impact mass on a lighter Snell helmet so a really light ECE helmet can potentially be a few percent reduction in the total impact force)

>>17090230
Oh I get it.

But in a time when they continually slow down F1 cars every year you'd think someone would give a shit about making motorcycle racing.

Like removing fucking death inducing curbs from the middle of the race track or blocking them off so people dont bounce their heads off them at 150mph.

>>17090138
is it burning your pants?

>>17090218
>I cant believe they still allow
I cannot tell, but I assume this sentence is followed by an implicit "and thank God for that, gives me hope for the future of the human race." Because, anon, if it isn't, you might be a huge faggot.

>>17090250
he fucked his right hand. He's not going to ride anymore and keep posting videos to try to ride out his fame until no one cares anymore and he'll fade into the obscurity from which he cane and where he should have stayed.

>>17090291
Nothing like that, temperature gauge is in the normal ranges, it's just a smell.

>>17090238
It rattles a little after shifting into fourth

>>17090294
HURR IM A BIG MAN BECAUSE I LIKE PEOPLE TO RACE IN UNNECESSARILY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS

The racing would be just as good if they blocked off the curbs to protect the riders.

>>17090298
My bike has my exhaust routed right by my leg so it will burn my pants even in the normal temperature range.

>>17090296
>yfw he gets a bike with a left hand throttle+right foot clutch conversion

ezpz with hydraulics and throttle by wire actually. it could even be another daytona.

>>17090307
That's unfortunate.

>>17090288
>But in a time when they continually slow down F1 cars every year
F1 hasn't made a rule change aimed at slowing lap times in 12 years. Any time they've slowed them down since it has been an incidental effect of trying to improve overtaking or technology and the last set of rule changes was the exact opposite. As long as they have a single tier supplier they don't really have to do anything.

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>>17090304
>because I want to be able to race in unnecessarily dangerous situations one day
>because I want other people who want to race in unnecessarily situations to be able to do so
yeah.

There are lots of closed courses in Ireland and the UK, and there is an active racing scene on those courses. Nobody who races on the roads has to be there, and in particular none of the (very few) guys who make money racing on the roads have to be there. Take your nannying horseshit and fuck right off.

>>17090331
I'm not saying they shouldn't race there retard. learn to reading comprehension.

I'm saying they should at least put some barriers up so there are no perpendicular curbs to be ran into by a dismounted rider. It would be trivial to place plastic k barriers along cross streets to guide any downed riders away from perpendicular curb impacts.

Pull the stick out of your pansy little vagina.

>>17090229
At least he is embracing meme status.

>>17090288
>giving this much of a shit

Fuck off please

>>17090349
dont cut yourself on all that edge, pussy.

>>17090288
If you want safe motorcycle racing you go to GP and run on a regular track with gravel traps and shit

If you want dangerous motorcycle racing you road race. Your precious curb barriers wouldn't do much except guide the dismounted rider into another obstacle, probably a taller one so he'd have a better chance of hitting his head.

At least curbs give you a chance to smash a shoulder and hopefully lose enough momentum to save your skull.

>>17090362
>A retard is actually trying to argue curbs are a safety feature


/dbt/ retardation in a nutshell.

>>17090342
And what I'm saying is that if they wanted that, they would have done it. Telling these guys
>akshully you should want to be safer
>have you heard about plastic barriers guise
is pure meddling faggotry.

>>17090369
When the next thing after the curb is a concrete wall or metal fence? Yes. We do not need ramps to guide people over shallow curbs and into walls. Making a road course safe is actually a pretty complex affair with the safety devices used varying based on the environment, until you pretty much give up and build a track because you can only afford so much babyproofing.

>>17090377
And I'm saying it's retarded that they haven't. It takes someone literally sliding face first into a curb for one of the retarded race organizers to rethink track safety and actually implement safety features into the track.

After the Andrews crash they did change the track to slow people down in that section and avoid the curbs because of the danger.

They actually agree with me, it just took them killing someone to realize they were fucking stupid.

Your an idiot.

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>>17089157
Shoei hornet x2
Shitty BILT explorer jacket and pants (works for now and is disposable for international motorcycle trips)
Shitty sedici waterproof boots and gloves. Same story.

On the fence on jacket, pants, boots and gloves. Doing more research before my solo deadhorse run from Seattle in July. Want to like KLIM but it is memelord status and the price doesn't seem worth it. Want TCX boots, but still not sure.

>>17090390
I didn't say ramps. I said plastic K barriers to prevent dismounted riders from hitting perpendicular curbs like at crossroads.

Instead of sliding head first into a curb at a cross road, rider hits k barrier at nearly parallel angle and it funnels him further down the track where he can slide longer without hitting something.

>>17090394
>calls people idiots
>can't spell you're

Everyone gets into that race accepting that they could easily die. People die during the fucking practice runs. You get on a motorcycle accepting that you will probably get your head knocked off by a rusted 100% 'merican iron tow mirror that one time you take a good racing line.

The entire sport is so damn unsafe that little things like that curb there are afterthoughts that don't present themselves as unusually unsafe until something happens.

>>17090261
Thanks for the advice mate. Will look around for 09 +.

>>17090410
>race organized with safety in mind
>barriers put up for spectator safety
>ambulances and fire crews on site for emergencies
>some idiot forgot to barrier off cross streets so riders dont slide head first into perpendicular curbs
>this is somehow acceptable

your an idiot.

>>17090403
I've got a set of TCX Explorer Evo Gore-tex boots and they have been good stuff.

>>17090059
>>17090261
>>17090416
Getting a single cylinder road bike that isn't a dual sport or a supermoto is retarded.

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I'm planning on getting my first bike sometime this summer. Just gotta work a little more and get more saved up.
But I want to go ahead and get the jacket and helmet and stuff now. So I've got it when I get the bike finally.

What are some good brands to check out for leather jackets that aren't super expensive and also helmets. What are some good brands and styles to check out?

How much should one realistically expect to spend on that kinda stuff?

>>17090432
v twin homeslice

>>17090437
Dianese is a good budget brand for leather jackets. I wouldn't get anything cheaper though.

Arai makes good budget helmets. Just don't get anything with a polycarbonate shell.

>>17090437
Have you ever ridden a bike before? It's a thing to consider doing before spending $1000 on five bits of armored leather/plastic clothing and a helmet.

>>17090450
Getting an Asian bike that isn't Japanese is stupid as well.

It's like buying a chinese car.

>>17090454
Yeah, my best friend is a motorcycle tech and he's showed me all about his bikes.

>>17090453
0/10

>>17090437
what kind of environment do you live in? What kind of bike are you looking to get? What is your budget? I ended up buying 2 of pretty much everything since I live in Minnesota and ride in the cold and hot. Are you looking for a classic leather or power rangers leather?

>>17090394
>I'm saying it's retarded that they haven't
That is certainly an opinion it is possible to hold, yes.

>After the Andrews crash they did change the track
Their opinion is what counts. (And even then, I'd like to see what the riders thought--I assume that "they" refers to the organizers.). Yours is not.

>>17090462
I live in Utah, so it's gonna be for spring and summer riding. Probably not gonna touch it during our shitty fucking winters.

Looking to get a standard or cafe racer type, planning on getting a used bike to learn on and go from there, so no more than 4-5,000 max.

Also what do you mean "power rangers leather"?

>>17090480
>Yours is not.
neither does yorus you fucking tool. This is a website where people ahve opinions and discuss shit. You dont like my opinion because youre an idiot and your opinion is shit. Deal with it.

What's the bike equivalent to AE86 in meme status?

>>17090491
no u

>>17090500
DRZ400SM

>>17090500
CBR250RR

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>>17090500
CB750F apparently. Probably the Katana though.

>>17090486
I recommend going with a standard, you can figure out if you want to go more or less aggressive as you learn. By power ranger leather I meant sport/track leather, stuff with sliders and hard parts. If you are looking for a good leather jacket for summer riding I've heard good things about the Rev'it Stewart Air Jacket or the stuff from Alpinestar's Oscar line. My buddy bought a Joe Rocket jacket that seems to be treating him fine, though it has no venting. The unfortunate thing about cheap leather is that it ends up being really shit if you go too cheap. The big thing is that you want to look for a jacket that has armor in the elbows and shoulders, and a pocket for the back protector.

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Broke my shifter shaft on my 2001 XR400 today.
Luckily on the trail, not highway.

Wondering how sketchy having C&C shop weld it back together would be..

>>17089712
My last supermoto was a 2003 525, sold it with 450 hours on it, countershaft was still pristine, It had the cush. If you are ordering new wheels from Warp9 spring the extra 100 for the damn hubs. Takes a little of the harshness of the vibes away too.

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KTM best

>>17090594
a good weld can be stronger than the two metals that are being joined. as long as it doesnt interfere with the mobility of the shaft it should be fine. compare the cost of the repair and a new shaft and make your choice

>>17090605
>390

dude wtf?

>>17089781
it's not " stripping it" it's hammering the splines every power pulse. Folks on KTM talk recommend a heavy grease in there to help prevent the metal on metal hammering.

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How do you fix the loose countershaft nut on drz? The washer has been crushed over but it still has some play.

>>17088727
Googly eyes

I'd do it but on phone

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>>17090609
wut you dont like?

>>17090626
why the 390?

>>17089179
Actual information on my /dbt/?

This place has gone to hell.

>>17090622
get new crush washer?

>>17090631
because its my first bike i wanted something between a 250 and a 650

>>17090622
>unfold washer
>tighten up nut to specified torque (72 ft.lb I believe)
>fold washer back up on nut on an undamaged side

>>17090631
why not nigger

>>17090637
do you live somewhere with engine size restrictions?

>>17090651
why are you being so autistic right now anon

>>17090651
No i live in The US im not starting on a 650 and besides, i had to buy new. i dont know how to use a manual completely yet but this bike is helping me. i love it. i hope to keep it for 7+ years

>>17090663
I think people really overestimate how much power you unleash with the throttle. Then again, it depends more on the throttle tube than the engine itself.

>inb4 hit a pothole and loop a wheelie
i always cut power when htting bumps because it shakes my hand loose

>>17090663
KTMs don't last that long, anon

>>17090671
>i always cut power when htting bumps
mee too, because it jolts my body forward and my hand goes with it

>>17090637
>first bike

let me tell you something anon: don't listen to anything you hear on /dbt/. pretty much everyone here is completely fucking retarded and should be ignored. they all think they are valentino rossi and master mechanics rolled into one but honestly they are the dumbest people i have ever come across

>>17090663
>dont know how to use a manual completely yet

Which part do you not get again?

>>17090680
But who here actually crashed besides a bunch of losers on R3s and one kid who started on a GSXR

>>17090671
this thing gets spook at high RPM it accelerates quickly.

>>17090672
the same thing could be said about TVR and Lotus. all you have to do is regular maintains and not abuse it. im not planning on wheeling it. why dont you like ktm

>>17088455
fucking London, id chain my bike to myself if id ever had to ride there.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=motorcycle+theft+london+

danke Merkel

>>17090680
All of o, especially dbt.

When ever something you actually know about comes up it's cringeworthy to read what otists think, so why would you ever listen to something you don't know about here.

>>17090683
Smoothly changing gears and how to turn and apply throttle and shift at the same time, and U turns

>>17090697
yeah after i posted i realized i should add all of /o/ lol

motherfuckers dumb as hell

>>17090694
>why dont you like ktm
because like 3 years ago some autistic kid would spam "KTM a shit" all day and the retards here who don't know any better actually started believing it and repeating it

>>17090701
>Smoothly changing gears
Clutch in, change, clutch out. If it's not smooth you're doing it too early
>and how to turn and apply throttle and shift at the same time
You don't ever, ever, ever shift while turning
>, and U turns
Nothing to do with being a manual

You have watched twist of the wrist 2 right?

>>17090707
Pajeet pls

>>17090707
>because like 3 years ago some autistic kid would spam "KTM a shit" all day and the retards here who don't know any better actu
Dbt honestly has no idea what's reliable and what's not. If you want to get a good idea of reliability you need to talk to actual owners, not a bunch of memers

>>17090707
It's weird whenever I see the letters KTM now in my mind are just tens of images of broken orange wheels. It seems like something is missing without them.

>>17090736
> If you want to get a good idea of reliability you need to talk to actual owners

Even that will be wildly inaccurate because one person's experience is hardly going to be indicative of a brand at large. e.g. someone buys a bike and it has a couple problems and then according to that person, the entire brand is trash, despite the fact that the bike they got is normally reliable and the problems they had were because of improperly done maintenace or neglect

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>>17090612
>Folks on KTM talk recommend
stopped reading there

>>17090752
or in the case of the WR450

>no bro, the manual said it was going to break so it's not unreliable
>replace your piston rings it's just expected maintenance

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>>17090707
I see. i remeber posting my bike here once and all i got was a buch of broken KTM pictures

>>17090718
ok. should i just hold the clutch in on 90° City turns or just slip it a bit?
On U turns i just go to first and after 5 seconds of slowly inching and turning i was able to do it.

>>17090720
Why do so many indians like this bike? its so hard to find US or UK riders on one.

>>17090752
Yeah everybody brand makes lemons every now and then.

Remember when the mid 80 Honda vf's were melting camshaft and dropping valves?

>>17090736
>>17090752
Or having already bought the Harl...er, KTM you could just ignore all the faggots and assume yours will be fine until something breaks.

>>17090765
because they're made in fucking india by curryniggers you fucking retard.

You paid money for that shit too.

>>17090767
And then they fixed it, but then the R/Rs started frying because they were inadequately cooled?

And then honda fixed that, but they ruined the whole bike by adding VTEC YO?

Also remember that Vtwin they made once and never again?

The lesson to be learned here is "honda a shit"

>>17090612
So why can a Honda XR650R countershaft handle that bikesobnoxious amount of torque and heavier weight without a cush hub but KTM countershafts cant hang with a lighter bike and less torque?

>>17090765
I'm not going to type out what you can watch in 100 different you tube vids.

Look up countersteering while you're at it.

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>>17090765
its literally an indian bike

so you get all the KTM reliability jokes on top of the poo in loo jokes.

you need some thick skin for the future my man.

>>17090767
its just that KTM cant make anything but.

>>17090784
You mean the V45 magna? That was my first biku

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>>17090767
or how about that 2 stroke V3 honda made that was so bad that pretty much all of them grenaded.

i heard they are now collectors items cause so many of them fell to pieces.

>>17090718
>You don't ever, ever, ever shift while turning
Whyw ould you say this?

I do it literally every single day.

I'm usually into 4th gear by the time I complete a left hander through a light from a stop.

>>17090804
How small is your scooter that you have to go through 4 gears in a single corner?

>>17090767
>>17090802
for every bad Honda you nam you can also name about 12 totally awesome hondas.

For every bad KTM you can name you can name about 12 more bad KTMs.

>>17090798
The VTR1000. Discontinued in 2005 because fuck interesting bikes, let's sell more I4s.

>>17090804
You can upshift while turning (for corner exit) just fine as long as it's smooth and you're not at full fucking lean. Racers literally have to do it or stop accelerating because redline. Downshifting while cornering more than just enough to fight the road crown can upset the rear. Don't do it. Either you heed this advice or you wonder why your back wheel just skipped across the pavement and how close you were to a nasty crash. If you don't have a slipper clutch heavy downshifting period will cause the rear to skip, especially if traction is limited.

>>17090813
Honda bikes are just boring now

If I wanted boring reliable I'd drive a prius

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>>17090810
250cc shitbike lyf yo.

>>17090813
for every bad honda you can also name about 12 totally awesome hondas. 11 of which are no longer in production and the 12th of which is a shadow of its former self.

for every 12 totally awesome hondas you can name one really boring honda that's in current production and not worth a single cent of your hard earned cash

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>>17090817
but I up shift and down shift at significant lean angles with my back tire skipping across the pavement all the time friend.

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>>17090802
it was a performance engine dude. Of course they wouldnt be all that reliable if you pluck them straight out of a GP bike.

>>17090830
yeah and even for performance engine standards they were horrible.

>>17090828
>those tires
why even bother putting 17's on jesus christ

>>17090828
You sound like an awful rider

>>17090791
it just that i came from a Taiwanese scooter to a KTM and i was thrown KTM destroyed memes and i dont want that shit happening. i understand the indian jokes too. but im just wondering why indians like it so much. i dont see many chinese or vietnamese kids wearing HypeBeast clothing

>>17090839
*awesome

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>>17090837
Because I commute on this bike rain or shine and like to go offroad from time to time. These tires have pretty good grip and they have really good mileage.

>>17090839
no u

>>17090855
>no u
People actually say that to me on here pretty often because they don't like my wheelies

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>>17090869
willys are only cool if you do them on a harley.

Hope I didn't fuck this one up

>>17090882
>>17090882

>>17090855
man i always wanted to go to the socal supermoto school. im visited cali next month but ill be 8 hours north of it.

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>>17090855
>not having two sets of wheels with hypersport and MX tires

P L E B

>>17090885
That's a lie and you know it

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>>17090891
I didnt do the class but just going to the track s a lot of fun.

Surprisingly exhausting too.

>>17090894
>needing hypersport tires on your 250 shitbike to turn

>>17090901
If I cant do it, then its not cool.

>>17090885
>wheelie harley
>hellalow fenders/pipes keep it from looping

Not cool at all

>>17090817
You can upshift and people do, hell I do it myself, but you don't tell noobs it's ok because it's not ok for them. You grind it into them that they shouldn't, and there's no reason to, so when they eventually do shift while turning they will flash back to never, never, never and not just wind up doing it to be a cock up >>17090828

OP seems like he treats his gears like babies and should really be concentrating on picking the right gear before the turn than making up for sloppy riding by shifting during it. You should as well.