>the LS engine is the god engine Umm, no sweetie. As an engine

But the generic V8 sound is good

What's your fucking problem, are you some sort of a fag or something

>>17056887
Friendly reminder that literally any European V8 (Jaguar AJ-V8, BMW S62 and S65, Audi 4.2, Merc M156 to name a few) sound far better than any LS engine.

This thread is shit

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>>17056875
>It doesn't rev very high

8000rpm is a lot more than your bus or 40hp diesel revs to.

>>17056908
They all sound like tractors and put out pathetic power for their physical size and complexity. For every 600hp Euro V8 you find there's 500 V8's that were built at home in a garage that out perform them. And that's IF you can get the Euro V8 to start and stay running.

>>17056875
>questioning an engine's "character"
yuropoors will say anything to rationalize their cucked lives

>>17056875
yup the LS is average at best and no one with taste or skill swaps it into anything

though I disagree on sound LS is awful

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>6700rpm redline stock
>Doesn't rev

>>17056922
kek thats funny because its the LS that sounds like a tractor

>>17056930
is that supposed to be impressive

I know old American V8s turned into wheezy useless anchors past 5000 but that doesnt make 6700 impressive

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>>17056875
you aren't wrong

>>17056943
I suppose you're going to impress me with your redline?

>>17056930
>6700rpm
>does rev

>>17056922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b38rkT_PaHw

Never knew tractors sounded so good desu.

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>>17056957
nah

even my ancient early 80s truck engine redlines at 6200 lmao

real revvy getting another 500 in there over 20 years later

The 2JZ and the Ford Modular are faster lol

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>>17056957
It's impressive for 7 liters and 200 year old technology. Impressive considering Japan thinks a 9000rpm V10 is the second coming of Buddha. Even more impressive is this 16 liter that revs to 8000.

>>17056965
That thing sounds like a V6 pickup truck but worse. You actually insulted tractors comparing them to that because a detroit 2 stroke sounds better than that 200hp piece of shit.

>>17056998
>8000

Lolcantrev

Japanese engines rev up to 20,000 rpm

>>17056975
>saving pictures from reveuro

>>17056998
its not impressive when its racing engines that cost more than an entire good car lmao

60s Euro V8s were hitting over 10,000 rpm anyway

>>17057008
didnt save it at all

at least thats a revvy engine

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>>17057026
>shits on the LS
>Doesn't even own a car that can rev higher than it
>b-b-b-but muh race car engine!

>>17057044
>This assmad

>>17057044
sorry a LS can barely outrev a 30 year old truck engine despite being made for performance

the 1005 isnt an LS either lmao and its a race engine too so thats a fair comparison

>>17057062
Outrevs a truck that hardly had any emission requirements. Sad.

>>17057098
talk about irrelevant info

whatever helps you sleep at night with your Literally Shit engine

thing is garbage

>>17057108
You should try one. I mean, when you can actually afford something decent. Revs are fun.

>>17057135
yeah I know revs are fun

thats why I dont like the LS (that and it is one of the worst sounding V8s ever)

when it comes to driving they are boring V8s and nothing memorable

>>17057135
No they aren't on street cars, it just makes a barely usable power band that's a fraction as enjoyable under 99% of the conditions you actually drive in. Source: someone that's actually driven lots of both ends of the spectrum.

>>17057154
>(that and it is one of the worst sounding V8s ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8kfCurbSFQ

7:28

>>17057182
Well i certainly enjoy it more than my old 4.6 sohc which is like 5700rpm. Would it be worth swapping the LS2 for an ls3? I read they are more revvy than the 2 in terms of response.

WHY DID ANY OF YOU RETARDS REPLY TO THIS? YOU ARE ALL JUST AS MUCH TUCKING CANCER AS OP
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17057266
yeah that just sounds like trash

no note or tone just trash

>>17057297
>t. assmad europoor

Ok but why do you need revs tho, it makes power everywhere

>>17057297

The taste of freedom is too strong for some I guess...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF10wb6eNiQ

>>17057357
your freedom is covered in shit its cool that you enjoy sucking on it but I dont like it

sorry but being loud doesnt make your car sound good

maybe once you get some taste and or grow up you will realize

>>17056922
True, LS engines are better than those Diesel engines, the main difference is that we don't put those Diesel engines in our sports cars
Americans only care about the power figure, the engine is just a piece of plastic under the front hood.

>the LS "motor" is best sports car engine in the world. Lucky GM that overhauling a truck engine is also the cheapest way to get a high power output
Plis Just don't

>>17057396

...Yet you probably praise Porsche when they're just using airplane engines...

>>17057415
yet the V8 was first used in aircraft and the first flat 6 was in a car

btfo anon

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>>17057268
Comparing engines on their redline is ridiculous, it's like comparing them on the shape of the cam cover, it's not enough information to make any kind of judgement.

The most fun engines for the street are ones with big displacement, huge power bands starting way down the RPM range that can stay in the power band as you shift even if you don't completely wring it out. Also, anyone that doesn't think an LS or SBF with a monster cam sounds great hasn't heard one in person.

>b but my favorite youtube video!

>>17057433
your shit taste isnt fact

>>17057182
that's true, but it's a sports car, it's suposed to feel right when driven on high rpms.
And if it's all about a real life driving what's the point of it being NA then? Or even petrol.

>>17057457

You only need the high rev throttle modulation if you're racing on a track down to the second. Low and mid end torque AND hp are more useful in the real world. A 7l 800hp V8 is going to feel right regardless of rpm's.

>>17057415
Porsche is all about the 10/10 build quality, handling and reliability.The engine is not a master piece, it just does the job. Maybe their V10s and some GT versions were...

>>17057487
That's my point, if it's just to "feel right" why not turbo engine? Or even a Diesel?
A lot more of low end than a LS, maybe even a 7l v8

>>17056875
>As an engine its completely characterless.
bullshit

Old LS have tonnes of character

>>17057526

Because I'd drive a steam tractor if I wanted all torque and no HP. 400lb/ft and no HP from a small diesel and 400lb/ft WITH 400+Hp are two completely different things. Diesels feel like pigs accelerating from a roll or on the highway.

Yes but what about hp, torque, weight, and containing boost?

You know, shit that matters.

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>>17057577

They'll never understand. Though I'd be asshurt too if my "engineering marvels" got utterly decimated by a bunch of parts bought online and thrown together in some guys garage.

WHY ARE YOU IDIOTS REPLYING TO THIS

>>17057546
??
Do you even Diesel? You sure are American
BMW 550d? Porsches new V8 Diesel?
>420hp
>850NM
Enough to get a 5tonne Panamera 0-60 in 4.2secs. That's also quick for LS standards

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>>17057638
i like ls


???

trolling is fun

straya

>>17057595
The only thing decimated by an LS with online bolt ons mounted by a dude in a shed is a head gasket or a rod

>>17057643
Yeah I like Diesel, In my work truck. Your shitty diesels that don't even make NA big block torque don't impress me. All that "engineering" and the eqqplant is barely faster than a big ass Escalade.

>>17057670
mfw pickups with ricer mods make more whp than more high end European "sports cars".

>>17057698
I like how you can only think numbers instead of actual performance
sad

>>17057638
to keep op mad duh

>>17057716

You can go on youtube and find a million video's of glorious American V8's destroying literally anything on the planet. You euro's just don't understand the scale of things here. We have 16 year olds driving xxxxhp Vettes here... Don't post pathetic engine specs and expect them to not be ridiculed.

>>17056875
This is shit tier bait and OP is still a faggot

>>17057733
why do you care about Europe so much lmao

Im American

youre just a cringey faggot

you still cant see anything other than numbers ya underaged bench racer

>>17057747

What are you supposed to compare then? Pokemon cards?

>>17057698
Why not has your daily? I daily a 435d
>320hp
>650NM
>4wd
>0-60 4.7
>60mpg
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a sports car, but it sure does feel powerful in real life driving.

>>17057754
get a car
that would be a good start for you

if youre even old enough to drive legally

>>17057762
nah anon that is slower than a V8 because its not a V8

this guy is like kids I had to deal with in elementary school lmao

>>17057762
>I daily a 435d
kill yourself

>>17057698
>Big Block
>Escalade
>Big Mac
America

>>17057790
Stay mad pushcuck

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>>17057799

It's beautiful isn't it?

>>17056908
LS lover here, i don't dispute this claim.

There is one thing you can't dispute though. For cost/performance and PHYSICAL PACKAGING it's great.

Yes, there are other engines like 2jz/barra but they are far bigger to physically fit in a car you're trying to engine swap.

LS gets the job done, cheap.

>>17056997
>an engine is faster

why are tripfags so stupid?

>>17057831
Stay assmad there are no LSengines running the quarter in 5 seconds GM fancuck

>tripfag
Hello reddi.t

>>17057733
>people talking about stock engines specs
>pathetic engine specs
All he talks about is how modified v8s get 1000hp, how 12 are you?

>>17057831
LS hasnt accomplished shit though

its just the tasteless poorfag goto

>>17057839
you stupid nigger i'm on your side making fun of the LS

might have to change sides considering how fucking stupid you are, not knowing the difference between an engine and a car

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>>17057839

Because a small block is the wrong tool for the job. Move to Europe if you want to be a displacement cuck.

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>>17056875

>>17057852
>He belives people refer to the car and not the engine in the promod scene

Lol how red.dit

>>17057846
Did he even say anything about the LS? Pretty sure he just called that stupid trip out for his idiocy.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12792017/
VOTE UP
LS FAGS NEED NOT APPLY

How can you people still not spot an Alphonse thread?

>>17057853
kek even the 2JZ has hit 5 seconds though

>>17057853
Nice damage control

Stay assmad the LS cant compete

>>17057858
Fuck off, you are just proving him right. You are so stupid you think there's just an engine to a car, as if aerodynamics don't play a part, or suspension.

So fucking dumb and now you're trying to backpeddle. Even those of us who were baiting with you about LS faggots find you a moron, detrip you cancerous piece of shit.

>>17057845

Sorry for trying to look at things as an "enthusiast" Go drive a regular car like a normal sheep cuck then. I didn't realize this was a cantoneese hypermiling forum.

>>17057866
>make valid points about a product
>'m-must be alphonse!11!'
kys

>>17057846
Its successor in the Cadillac DPi is dominating races.

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>aaargh! i just know it's you!
can't believe they're this obsessed with me

>>17057871
>Promod
>Aerodynamics or suspension

Lol, do you think top promod teams dont run the best bodies and chassis?

>>17057820
It's fat.
I do love a lumpy American V8 in classic car, they had a glorious time in the 60s and 70s, but 50 years later you should have already moved on
But who can blame GM, while there's fanboys like you they will always sell and that means not developing a better engine

>>17057900

It's already capable of making more than supercar power reliably. It doesn't need to get much better.

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>>17056875
/bus cuck general/? /bus cuck general/

Hello /b/, how do I get qt girls to sit next to me? And how many $500 and an afternoons will it take to LS swap a MANUAL Honda Civic drift car? Asking for a friend.

People only like it because it's compact enough to put into any meme car

>>17057927
Im an assmad GM fangirl; the post

>>17057876
An enthusiast isnt a child who only cares about power figures and compares them like dick sizes.
I'm the kind of guy who would keep a stock 2jz or an rb26
An enthusiast would also recognize what a good daily should have and what a fun car should be, and having a 3000hp engine isn't one of them

>>17057932
Unlike your mother. Who is fat.

>>17057935
>defending autotragic
Cuck.

>>17057946
t. pushcuck

>>17057887
They're GM fangirls, can't blame em

>>17057910
>reliably
Yeah I mean you can rely it's going to fail soon.
Protip: reliability != cheap to repair

>>17056922
>comparing homebuilt to factory engines that have to comply with emissions, warranty, insurance, noise, packaging, costs at a large scale, how it works with other components like transmissions, etc

>>17057940

A car is literally an extension for your dick. Other wise you'd drive a smart car or a Prius.

>>17057964
A literal small penis cuck

>>17057910
they dont even do that

LS usually shit the bed before even making it to 1000hp

meanwhile people make 1000whp with 2JZ

>>17057962
>Billion dollar engine competes with some overnight parts from JEGS.

Europe BTFO

>>17056875
Doesn't sound generic, sounds like a LS.

>>17057979
Except the JEGS engine doesn't need to comply with hundreds of international government agencies.

>>17056908
Opinion is not fact.

>>17057975

Supra's are useless dyno queens. Even at 1500hp they'll get smoked by a car that makes half the power and actually hooks up without going full drag mode.

>>17057984
An LS is generic
>mind blown

>>17056922
That's built though.

>>17057940
Go wash your fedora you fucking faggot.

>>17057951
t. bus cuck

>>17058000

So? What kind of cuck drives a stock car? Shouldn't you be on a Tesla forum?

>>17057998
No one is talking about supras

>>17057998
Some one gets it
Power figures don't mean shit (the 2jz it's still a better engine though)

>>17057975
>meanwhile people make 1000whp with 2JZ
Not for long. Everyone spouting the "indestructible TWO JAY ZEE JAY DEE EMM ENGINEERING" meme is busriding scum that's never touched an A80 Supra.

>>17057998
>Supra's are useless dyno queens
Thanks FnF and shitty shart car "culture".

>>17058025
>Not for long

Citation needed

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>>17057998
why do people still recite memes that were outdated over a decade ago

we have 7 and 8 second street Supras

still doesnt matter when were talking about the 2JZ and not Supras

reminder that not a single LS has run 5s in the 1/4 and multiple 2JZs have

>>17058025
>not for long

>Dynoed 1043 whp 808 tq with a gt47-80 @ 35+ psi
>previously dynoed 970 whp 829tq @ 33 psi with spark blow out
>and already driven it 4+k miles with 950+whp

>>17058016
>not modding your Tesla
Casual scum. Go listen to music in an .mp3 format while you gas yourself to death with exhaust in a sealed garage.

>>17058003
t. pushcuck

>>17058033
>35psi
wow I bet it's super reliable too!

>>17058016
are you implying the LS is a good engine to modify?

>>17058033

A big ass V8 will always be more reliable than a stressed out 6 cylinder. That's common sense, physics and basic engineering... A 5 second 2J needs to be rebuilt after each run so why not just use a top fuel engine at that point? There's a reason why drag racing is dominated by big twin turbo V8's. I can also buy a twin turbo crate engine that costs half of what a 2JZ costs.

>So far, it has exactly 98000km (61250 miles) on the odo... It has been subjected to 700+ WHP for about 20,000 km of driving and over 100+ dyno pulls, and slghtly over 900+ WHP for 16,000 km (8125 miles) of driving and over 60 dyno pulls. Now it has over 1K HP and about

>>17058050
kek this pleb still thinks numbers are everything and can know everything from a reletively meaningless number

I mean yeah if it was an LS it would be in pieces so I guess you can be forgiven

>>17058051
>cheap
>compact
>huge aftermarket
It's certainly not a bad one if you're a lazy and uninspired nigger who wants relatively cheap power.

>>17058051

For everyday usage yes. If you're going full drag 5 second monster mode it makes a lot more sense to go big block.

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>>17058048
t. bus cuck

>>17058056
>drag """racing"""
Where your V6 Camaro gets bullied at the stoplights by the Tesla iCar.

>>17058056
>He belives promod v8s arent rebuilt after each pass

>>17058056
no you cant
no it doesnt

you are insanely ignorant and trying to change the topic

we are talking about the LS not some big block that costs a hundred thousand dollars

LS is shit you choking on V8 dick is irrelevant

>>17058074
t. pushcuck

>>17058074
>gets BTFO'd by a old mustang with some forklift motors

>>17058076
Tell that to the guys who do 1500 mile tours with them.

>>17058079
LS's are used in every motorsport for a reason. They'll always be more reliable than something with no displacement.

>>17058097
yet they dont accomplish anything despite what you think

>>17058097
>LS are used in every motorsport
Lel

>Drag week guys dont do maintenance after every pass
Lel

>>17058097
also funny since they cant hold power for shit compared to several smaller engines lmao

LS is just cheap garbage so people act like its good

You all are a bunch of fags.

>>17058101

I don't see many 2J's winning the baja 500 or 1000. See... In the non autistic real world it's about having fun and enjoying your V8 powered toys. Not watching a bunch of "lemans" cars tailgate each other with bright headlights for 24 hours.

>>17058111
Assmad GM fangirl goes outside of LSTech, gets BTFO, many such cases, SAD!

>>17058120
>in the non autistic world its about losing and liking V8s because youre autistic about V8s

cool

>>17058092
t. bus cuck

>>17058120
>not being autistic
As if you know anything about fun normie.

>>>/n/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/out/

>>17058107

That literal trash engine from the scrap heap is still capable of making more power than Europe's most powerful supercars. Real shitty... "only" capable of 1500hp from a truck motor is real shitty alright.

>>17058131
t. pushcuck

>>17058132
wow the same as a stock European car

so impressive

as if

>>17058132
>Being this obsessed

>>17058133
t. bus cuck

>>17058143
t. 1.3l diesel Fiat

>>17058143

$2.5m super car engine competes with a $15k engine.... clap clap.

>>17057005
while at the same time being half a cubic inch in displacement.

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>>17058152
>Americans needs 15 liters to compete with a car with half an inch of displacement

>>17058150
yeah your 15k engine with 100k thrown at it with no restrictions cant even beat a stock engine

goddamn that is embarrassing

>>17058149
t. pushcuck

The ls7 revs to 7k... And anyways who cares about revs besides 8 year olds and benchracers, revs don't mean shit. It either has a good power band or it doesn't

>>17058123
nope. you're a fag.

Redpill me on American market build quality. Why is it everything sold in your country catches fire, or breaks down, or blows up? Is it a feature for your so your people have things to complain about?

>>17057266
Please be sarcastic

>>17058311
My shebby from 1976 goes hard

Avoid anything past 80's

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>>17058311

>British build quality

>>17058311
American cars have always been somewhat cheaply made but it got real bad in the 70s and didnt recover until the latter part of the 2000s

even then it can be shoddy

>>17058315
If you don't think that sounds like hot shit then you should kys.

>>17058348
C5 shitvette doesn't even have door handles it's so cheap, door release is electric and on the center console so you'll die if you roll the car

>>17058883
What? My c5 has door handles on the door.

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Prove me that americans dont build their engines like they build everything else
>houses
>car interiors
everything is fake, buillt to look nice on the paper but badly made with all the wrong and cheap materials

>>17056875
Who is this semen demon?

>>17057433
>NAV: Where am I now?

Kek

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>>17056975
No this is a revvy engine

>>17058883
And Ferrari charges extra to put shoestring in place of door handles

>>17059533
Amazingly typically American engines hold up very well. Not because they're extraordinarily well engineered but because they're overdimensioned and understressed.

>>17059533
Wood provides great insulation thoigh

>>17059533
Euros don't use wood because they used it all fueling fires for making iron

>>17059849
>understressed
>race engine
pick one and only one

>>17059878
lel

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>>17059856
>>17059878
it sure is the superior way of building houses, when will Euros recover?

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>>17059934
>no one lives in a house
>it falls apart
wow

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>>17059960
>it falls apart
>no one lives in a house
fixed that for ya, since is just storm damage
pic related

also you posted a pic of a house older than America itself, feels good to be superior

>>17059987
Nice painting

Now post a picture of your broom closet that you call a home

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>>17060014
get rekt bitch nigga

>>17060032
This is Trump's apartment

>>17060038
yes, this is donald

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>V8 when you could just a V16 instead

>>17060032
Russian oligarch tier. Trump has absolutely zero taste or restrain.

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>>17060014
this is how a real house is built, not you ikea building style

>>17060148
Real house in a 3rd world shithole

>>17060153
What's your point? A good house is bad because there are good houses in 3rd world countries?

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>>17060084
that's where its at bae

>>17056908
Lmaoing @ ur lyfe

179 replies: 49 posters

Sad that plenty of idiots here have to be dumb enough to take the obvious bait

>>17060148
Then a small earthquake comes and cracks your house in half.

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>>17060378
>europeans dont know physics
pleb

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>his car doesn't have an engine designed for F1

>>17056908
Find me 1 (one) of those engines that still runs.
pro tip: you can't

>>17056875
>Characterless
What did he mean by this?
>Doesn't rev high
It revs fine.
>Generic V8 sound
That's not a bad thing
>it's only considered reliable due tk ubiquity of parts
Yes, and? Having cheap available parts keeps it cheap to own.

>>17057698
>Yeah, i like push rods, in my work truck!
fixd