/ORG/: i c e r o l l i n g

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Back to the topic of the Suburban Master Race.

>>16489215
>Ifs with shitty electronic actuator in diff that is prone to failure
>Master race
Nah nigga, nah

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Got a chance to trim the fenders, no more rubbing up front.

>>16489237
The thermal actuator was the shitty one, either way there's a super cheap kit you can buy to lock the front diff in manually.

And you don't have to keep it IFS.

>>16489173
>dat pic
>see you on /ORG/ bro
Damn that's comfy.

Question
My buddy got stuck in my driveway full of ice inhis 2010 Forester
>hur dur symmetrical AWD
My self in my little pickup drove out of the same spot in 4x4.
Whats the difference here?
>both weigh about the same
>subaru has more power
>dumb 4x4 vs smart AWD
I dont get why he got stuck and i didnt.

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>>16489173
"Tacofag slides off a cliff in the fucking snow and fucking dies" edition

But hey I got a new stickie! Waiting on my /org/ one still :v

>>16489310
Could be your tires, could be his FWD bias versus your RWD bias, could be your friend driving like a goob

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>>16489237
Owe you caught me in the feels. Too bad I upgraded to a hand operated putterinner and now can use 2L.

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>>16489237
No one told you that you had to keep the IFS.

>>16489215
They are dank as fuck. I like em.

>>16489328
Tires or diff

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>got my project actually done before spring

Guess I'll just keep making it better. Anyone got some recommendations. I want to go fast on sand.

>>16489328
Well ive been thinking of buying a mk2 RAV4 because of the 50/50 awd, but now im having second thoughs because it would perform much like the subaru

>>16489487
Flamethrowers.

Or maybe some bigger wheels and tires?

Would a rollcage be asking too much?

>>16489495
Everything except the flame throwers is a planned addition pending funds and skills (roll cage)

>>16489487
Some 18" wide tires mounted on 14" wide wheels on the back and some tall skinny tires on the front

Also weld the diff

>>16489515
This might sound ignorant but is there actually much value in welding a LSD?

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>>16489515
I recommend some old school Micky Thomson Baja belted tires if you can find some used

>>16489526
LSD diffs slip, welded diffs don't.

>>16489487
consider a windsheild?

>>16489551
True enough famalam

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Retired the reindeer cosplay tonight. 21 gun salute and all...

Also went to mount the new shoes, but they're jammed up, too much for the impact driver. Gonna have to bring out the big guns. In the meantime no snowrolling for the forseeable future, as an ice jam on the river is flooding all the nearby trails. :-(

>>16489215
Ayyyyyy! Haven't seen you around these parts. Interesting place to mound those Hellas. Is that a 6.5? Details on the rig?

>>16489237
>thermal actuated front diff
Yup, you got me there. The Achilles heel on these. My old Blue Burb busted that after a few large jumps. Need to upgrade Murphy soon...

>>16489358
I like how Suburban owners are coming out of the woodwork. No disrespect, but It's comfy to know Burbalade and I are not alone in a sea of Tacos haha.

>>16490005
Loose or pourches

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>>16490005
>White letter BFGs with pathetic amounts of tread left
AW YEEAAAAHH

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>>16490005
>sea of tacos

I don't know what you're talking about

>>16490096
Go away we're having a moment.

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>>16490104
Sry

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>>16490185
that is a very nervous toyota

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>>16490090
>Also on 16.5 rims, a size nobody makes tires for anymore...

If I'm going to make bad decisions, might as well go overboard on it.

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>>16489311
yellowtext story pls

>>16490170
bring the windsor back to canada, fampai

>>16489435
his wallet probably did.
i'm still down to take that D50 (maybe in the spring) off you since it looks like swapping a 50 is much, much easier than a 60 without much reward. I mean, what is a Ranger even gonna do with a D60...
>inb4
>cucc-ing yourself this hard
>"need"

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>>16490241
FUCK YOU LEAF

>>16490238
SAM-54R

>>16490241
Sold it to my roommate. However swapping in a Dana 50 is the EXACT same amount of work as swapping in a Dana 60. The advantage of the 50 is that they're a lot cheaper.

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Start my new job making street sweeper attachments Monday, then I can start pumping more dolarydoos into my rolling money pit and get it finished up
Old pick is old

>>16490368
>Yapping, little shit dog
No, just no

Maybe a lab or German shepherd or Blu tick hound but definitely not a happy ankle biter

>>16490368
safe travels doggo

>>16490398
>mocking dogs of any kind unless they are meanies
kys

>>16490398
>not having your ankles bitten
>devoiding yourself of the joy of happy ankle biters
it's like you hate life

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>>16490241
I'm not good at greentext
>going up to the snow this weekend for skiing
>I have a SoCal Tacomas meet so I come up separate from my dad and my brother
>this last weekend the area got around 4 feet of snow or some shit
>The drive up is all switchbacks overlooking cliffs
>I am from San Diego
>I have no experience driving in snow
>I have summer tires
>I don't have 4x4

Not that exciting but basically I had a hard time getting up here

>>16490368
Safe travels, doggo!

>>16490417
If it's back sits lower than my knee I don't even recognize them as dogs, they're more like very loud and annoying rodents

Small dogs are hyper alert which means they bark at anything and everything if it's a threat or not and they're too small to fight of anything bigger than a toddler

>>16490452
where'd your chains go!?

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Probably going to do a 3" suspension lift on this pig, also digital dash swap. Transmission is shot, though.

Should I find a new tranny and rehab the 100HP 4cyl, or just say fuck it and go all out and swap in a 350, 700r4, + t-case?

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>>16490459

>>16490455
Only if you don't train them well enough. The downside is that people who get mutts that yap a lot are themselves also annoying. Otherwise, you can get them down to a containable degree.
Nowadays, I have a cute little pomeranian that looks like a fox who accompanies me on rides. I can see why you think they're loud annoying rodents, though, lmao. But will kindly disagree with you.

I also used to have a half terrier (or something) that would fight anything remotely mobile that was not part of my family. It killed like a crow its own size once somehow and dragged it around the lawn.

>>16490313
Might be annoying with the placement of the frame bolted front skid (considering it is like the same price as the D50 you were selling) and how the driveshaft is connected. It'll be another week before I literally don't know, lol.

All things considered, I do so much high way driving, it could just not be worth getting rid of the IFS that Ferd spent 5-7 years trying to make more and more comfortable.

>>16490478
By shot. Do you mean someone shot airsoft pellets are the transmission? Because that's what the hood and entire exterior look like.

( we used to take pre- derby cars on drive bys around a parking lot shooting airsoft guns at each others cars. shit was cash af but our vehicles would look like that afterwards)

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>>16490459
Chains are sitting in the back seat. I was never stopped me to put them on, so I just went up the 1 and a half-hour drive up with naked tires because I'm either a pretty decent driver or I'm completely retarded

>>16490541
>aka wheel spinning your 2wd rusted shitbox up a mountain while crying general
NICE RADIALS FAGGOT

>>16490478
Trans rebuild is going to cost about $1500 and about that +/- a few hundred to rebuild the motor if you do the disassembly/reassembly your self

You can get a full Chevy drive train for $5-800 plus any custom stuff to make it fit plus a new radiator and custom driveshafts and all the extra time you have to put in

How much work do you want to do?

Currently putting a Chevy v8 in a ranger and there's a lot of fenagling and "well, let's see if this fits... Nope, well shit now what" that goes into putting a Chevy motor into a mini truck that's not an s10

>>16490521
In August, the sky decided that we hadn't had enough excitement recently, and decided to drop tangerine sized hail.
The parking lots looked like a war zone.

There was a problem with the transmissions, where the pilot bearing would disintegrate, and allow shaft play. Unchecked, this would stress and kill all the bearings in the transmission. It howls in every gear besides 4th, and shifts terribly.

The dilemma is:
>new transmission, repair engine, ~100 HP
or
>swap 350 for big torks in small truck

>>16490569
I'm willing to spend a few months making it work. According to other people that have done the swap, a 700r4 will fit right in the existing trans tunnel/cross-member.
The difficult part I think is going to be making 4x4 work, as I'm going to have to find a driver's side xfer case and get custom drivelines made.

>>16490603
Post ifs Chevys are driver side drop so that's easy, driveshafts will cost about $250 a piece (YMMV)

You also have to factor in that your factory axles may not hold up to a v8

>>16490559
kekd
t. memespouter

>>16490603
How'd you let it get that bad? Genuinely asking. Not mocking you.
Also lmao at the 100HP 4cylinder. I would honestly recommend just replacing or getting a whole new vehicle at this point.

Otherwise, you could do an entire innards swap and try and fit in a V8 or old I6. You also wouldn't have to care where the V8 or I6 comes from since you'll be switching the transmission and probably transfer case in order to accommodate the new everything. So all those small nubs will need to be changed out as well.

The downside is that if you don't have someone with the crane and weather proof area to do it, you'll be looking at $3000-$10000 for the job where you could just get another vehicle for that price.

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Tyre choices, which is best for the front of my truck. Worn Hankook Dynapro M/T with 3-4mm of tread, pretty evenly worn. Or near new Dynapro AS (basically an H/T) with 8+mm tread all across. Terrain is rocky like pic related with occasional mud and river crossings. The H/Ts are what's currently fitted and I got the M/Ts for free off a friend but I'm unsure if I bother fitting them as they don't have a whole lot of life left. I don't wanna buy tyres because the truck was $300 and has a cracked head I'm just driving it till it dies.

>>16490892
You can still use your tyres after your trucc dies, btw. Unless they're something like 26s and don't really want to deal with reselling / swapping after your trucc goes into the incinerator.

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>>16490368

safe travels doggo

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>>16490859
All you need is a stout tree limb and a chainfall

Two sheets of 3/4" plywood if you don't have a concrete pad and a pop up canopy and some tarps for shelter

>>16490912
Yes that's true. My rears are 275/70r16 muddies so it's a pretty awkward size to find, and not common enough to be really cheap.

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>>16490892
Wild country M/Ts are a good choice, perform good in mud sand and rock but also handle OK on pavement and aren't too loud and they aren't too expensive

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>>16491032
More treecrane for the hell of it

>>16490639
Supposedly the rear end on the hardbody is good to 500HP, only time will tell if that's true.

>>16490859
No worries, I bought the truck as it is now. Got it super cheap after the hailstorm, as the previous owner didn't want to deal with it.
I needed some 4x4 for this winter, and I've come to like the thing.
A 2 ton engine crane can be had for $200 on CL here.

I think I might as well do it, it will provide a good way to increase my mechanical skills and I'll end up with a pretty cool truck in the end.

>>16491096
One of the biggest clearance issues you'll hit is the exhaust manifolds. Center dump manifolds should clear everything by a cunt hair or two, you could also try the headers designed for s10 v8 swaps

Bigger radiator and electric fan is a must and if you're going carbed you either need to get a good pressure regulator or unhook the stock fuel pump and run a carb specific pump or mechanical pump

>>16491069
this is the most redneck shit i haev ever seen
keep up the good work anon

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>>16491226
>BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE

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>>16491250

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>>16491148
Why would the exhaust manifolds be an issue exactly? As he stated >>16491096, he's in an odd position where he's not just doing an engine swap but a transmission gearbox, and probably axle modification if he's going up in HP and generally all the moving parts.

If he's even considering it, it's a bit harder to do with all the little growing pains. But it is much, much easier to source all the material and cut them down (as long as he sticks with a V6 anyway) with help from a fabricator or modern blacksmith.
It's not every day that people gut the entire interior of the vehicle.

I guess my question is why the exhaust manifolds themselves would be exceptionally difficult?

>>16491032
I've seen this picture at least three times and have always been impressed that you rigged up a system to trust despite a 0.1% chance of it snapping and just dropping right through your hood. I'm so glad you also posted >>16491250 and >>16491257 because it has now made me significantly more comfortable despite looking pretty damn sketch and really unsafe, hehe.

I'm glad you ended up staying around on /ORG/ despite not knowing why we keep having these threads <33

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>>16491034
>>16491062
If that's the case, depending on where you live, it could just not be worth fixing the trucc up, then.

Like, sure. You'll have a really fun time with it driving on new tyres but it seems like any one large bump or sudden drop (AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE MUDDING) could cause your vehicle to flatline and leave you stranded for a few hours.
I would say just buy new tyres (or new-ish tyres) and put them on whichever vehicle you are planning on getting.

Run them on whatever you have now and abuse your vehicle as much as you can until you finally get your vehicle next.

Also remember to film the viking funeral

>>16491299
He was talking about swapping in a Chevy 350 and bigger motor+smaller truck=clearance issues. I'm dealing with pretty much the same situation putting a sbc into a 84 ranger and was passing on some info I had to learn the hard way

Standard rear dump manifolds end up right on top of the frame rails, center dumps fall just inside and leave enough room to hook up exhaust pipes

>>16491299
For the record I did test the limb first by hooking a strap the the front axle and lifting the front of the truck up about 6" off the ground

>everyone doing SBC 350 swaps
>I'm taking mine out

>>16491352
Oh I missed that part completely and am hideously drunk right now. Sorry.

What made you consider doing an SBC swap into your old Ranger shitbox? Seems like you're also coming along other issues aside from just brand incompatibility. That is good to know. Is this project current or has it already been accomplished?

My 2010 Ranger suffers from a similar issue with the rails and their annoying placement around a bunch of other things. First being the top of the overly complex IFS system. From my mech's experience, I've heard it's easier to put an old reliable windsor into a Chevy than it is to put an old Chevy anything into these compact Fords.

>>16491378
Lmao. Well if it's at like 300-500, go buy 20lbs of tannerite for $15 and give it a viking funeral with a .50 cal.

Be safe though, pls.

>>16491364
When the apocalypse/ race war/ communist civil revolution happens in the next few years, you're welcome in my North Ontario cabin any time, anon.

I have 50 cans of cod liver, 50 untapped maple syrup trees, and around 5 old SKSs that should keep you warm.

>>16491411
It's a current project between me and my brothers
>Brother has $400 84 ranger
>DD it for two years trans shits itself after John force tier burnout
>Trade some stuff we got for free for a running SBC so we say fuck it it's going in
>Get nv4500 out of s10 for $100
Still needs a few odds and ends but it's coming together

>>16491449
Ooooh. That is part the American vehicular dream. Serendipitous auto finds that you end up placing on your vehicle just because the timing is right. Keep up the good work!

Post up some pictures of the set-up and work station when you get a chance, anon.

>>16491449
NV3500, the NV4500s never came in the S-10s, only the larger trucks.

>>16491312
I'll date you.

>>16490238
What? We run 33x12.5x16.5 on our family 3/4ton work bitch. Check discount tire yo, they'll special order for you.

>>16491411
>Lmao. Well if it's at like 300-500, go buy 20lbs of tannerite for $15 and give it a viking funeral with a .50 cal.
No can do. It's going into another Suburban.

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White leader standing by

On average, how much do you guys spend in gas/diesel every week?

How many miles per week?

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>>16493006
what a weird qeustion to ask on org
there was a guy a while back who got 3mpg if he was towing a trailer

>>16492947
>Florida
>middle of January
>77°F
>Two cold days all season
I don't particularly care for really cold weather but come on, I look forward to not sweating to death in the winter and here I am sweating like a whore in church. Maybe it will snow here again in my lifetime

>>16493123
>a whore in church
You're either under 22 or over 50.

>>16493159
24 at the end of next month. When you hear a phrase or saying your whole life it tends to stick in your mind

>>16493061
Last owner. Haven't removed it yet.

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>>16493123
I hear yeah. Just moved to Oregon from AZ.

>>16493006
average weekly fuelup is about $27
i drive a stock xj (4.0/aw4) missing the after cat o2 sensor and average 12.5mpg city

>>16493006
Taynger eats around $400-500 in gas a month running around 3000-4000/month.

It's a buck a litre here give or take 10 cents.

>>16493582
>tfw $1.30/litre

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>>16493006
$45 or about 19 gallons a week

I get worse highway mpg than city due to no overdrive and 4:10 gears with. The ol' girl tops out at 70mph so even doing 55 she's screeming.

>>16493006
The Taco goes through a tank about every week. Not sure how many miles I do, but gas is low right now at about $2.95/gallon so I only spend like $50 on one tank

>>16493661
Do you know if there's room to add an overdrive gear or would you have to swap it out for a whole new transmission? I had a friend with an old 70s Camaro that was a (relatively) simple bolt on overdrive add-on since they made the transmissions with overdrive for other vehicles and simply didn't add the gear system for the Camaro. So that way, he didn't have to fidget around with adding length or welding.
I know if it were me, doing that upgrade / swap would save me money in the long run but this is /ORG/ so not many do lots of highway dribing.

Mine used to be 4.10s and with a 4 inch wider tyre swap, it's something silly like 4.6 right now. I still manage 16 highway mpg until I can get those keys swapped out and get those mpgs back 2 or 3 more points. But then again, I also do like 130/140 on the highway for hours on end to make time so my highway gas mileage isn't supposed to used as a bar, lol.

>>16493631
Where do you live that uses the $ as currency AND has it that cheap? Alaska? Hawaii?

>>16493794
>Alaska
>cheap

Wew

>>16493801
I meant "that expensive".

$1.30 is pretty expensive. Whoops.

>>16493794
That's CAD, and it works out to approx. $5.50/gallon

>>16493781
I've seen some people do an auxiliary overdrive box but that's expensive and involves adapters and a second shifter ECT. I could swap it with an nv4500 but then I lose the super low Granny gear

I'm planning on going up to 33s so I should pick op some mpgs after I figure out the speedo difference

>>16493841
Ouch

It's $2.33/gallon here in central FL and that's up 14 cents from a month ago

>>16493863
I went up to 32s from 28s and fucked up my gas mileage for a bit. Planning on doing a re-levelling and playing around with the transfer to regear and get those em pee gees back.

I also hear you on the transmission swap. Anything low enough for offroading and overdrive would probably be a 6+R which would be hideously expensive as whale. That ends up just defeating the porpoise of putting in an overdrive to save money, lol.

I also just realised it's a dodge and not a chevy so disregard my previous point, lol. You also could try turboing your engine... Just imagine people's faces when you're putting 91 in your old Dodge 150, lol

>>16493841
Ya but where.

>>16493888
2$/gallon here in sd

>>16493888
>>16493949
fuck you

>>16493896
Canadia

>>16493966
hey but you get to have at rifles like the ptrd.

>>16493896
I've actually been throwing around the idea of a roots style super charger like this guy did

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJrSfX1VPAY

>>16494031
>slant six
>473ftlbs of torque at the wheels
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iSIsCAGV7A0

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>>16494031
>mfw suspension coils connected to the engine cradle
>mfw dat grill
>mfw dat shine
Does a supercharger also help with that?

Turbo would allow your vehicle to push out a few more HP would make going 100klicks on the freeway easier on your engine. But I have absolutely no idea how a supercharger affects the vehicle.

>>16494074
>tfw
>your car will never ree at you

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>>16493966
CANADA IS HUGE WHERE ARE YOU IN CANADA IVE ASKED YOU NICELY LIKE THREE TIMES NOW WHAT ELSE CAN I DO
POST PROVINCE AND CITY NOW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16494156
"no"

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>>16489173
G-deuce, convoy pics in summer if I go up to the farm, but pics of truck here. My personal one in fl.

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>>16494262
<33

>>16494752
Dawwwww, thanks.

>>16491449
IS this you?
>>16494863

>>16489173
not an offroader but you people probably have a good answer to >>16494079

How do you prevent water from getting into your electrical components?

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>>16495306
you don't into water.

>>16495306
Make sure you don't drive into water that's deep enough to get into your electrical components

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>>16492947
Square Bodys Unite.

Too bad she's my old work rig and I sold it as a company asset along with my company. Wish I kept her and that horrible 305.

>>16495393
he's probably talking about splashing, not actually going in deep stuff

>>16495401
*Don't drive into water deep enough that it will splash into your electrical components.

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But I upgraded to this much better thing.
GMT400 Pride.

>>16490005
You are not alone brother. You are part of the smaller crew of 6.2/6.5 owners but it's okay.

>>16495414
any side streets in the rain or with bad sewer systems during spring time when the snow melts?

>>16495245
Nope mine has bedside toolboxs

>>16495452
Move to San Diego where it doesn't snow and only just now started raining after six years

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>>16495599
SAME.

Gullwings? I keep my water in there in the summer so it doesn't get all hot and cancery.

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going all the way out to the trail just to find all the trail gates are closed. ffs

>>16495933
RIP YJ bro

>>16495933
wasted my whole god damn day. thjen I went to a local little area and got kicked out and the dude who kicked me out took pictures of muh jeep, so that's that I guess. no more local spots for me, now I have to drive over an hour for any kind of trail, and not even technical trails.

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>>16495978
I found a pretty cool trail in Lake Elsinore last month. Forget the actual name, but it's supposed to be a horse trail even though there's no signs saying i can't take my truck up there

It's kinda tricky near the bottom and levels off towards the top, and I wish I had some pictures of me flexing because there were some tricky ruts I had to get through

>>16496079
post the location of the trail head bro, I want to go out there to see it.

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>>16496203
Looked it up, it's called El Cariso trail. It shows as a hiking trail on google, but like I said, it's totally doable in a truck/jeep/whatever. I started at the bottom and stopped once I reached Ortega Hwy, but you could also turn and go back down since it's kinda short

I wouldn't mind meeting you out there next Sunday or Monday, it's one of my favorites since I first did it a while back so I've been looking for an excuse to do it again

>>16490368
Travel safe doogggooo

>>16496303
for sure dude, thanks

just got a hand me down XJ with shit tires/rusted rims

what are some cheap rims/tires or places to get cheap ones?

>>16496554
Pro Comp is a good brand to look at. Not exactly "cheap" but they have a bunch of different models both steel and aluminum so their prices vary, so its a good start

>>16496554

summitracing.com - Crager soft 8 wheels

There are no cheap tires.

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>>16496749
yuuuuuuuus anon you have the right idea.

You can normally find used combos for ~400$ that's what you will pay just for straight new wheels. Plus you sometimes luck out and get BFG's.

Anybody ever build a mud rail /sand rail?

Is there a write up/Bible/build thread/video guide you recommend? My Google fu is apparently weak.

How about buggies? They seem cool too, but I like the challenge of the full blown rail build.

>>16495306
We took a comp on a wrangler JK and filled all holes with foam.... terrible idea... but it worked

>>16497134
I am currently converting a dead jeep into a tractor

>>16490368
safe travels doggerino

>>16497187
Any pictures?

>go on other /o/ threads
>see the 4runner thread
>see a logical yet slightly inflammatory post by one of our Burb machines
>otay.png
>see mrcummy actually tripfagging the place
>nope.exe
>outta there

>>16490368

>>16497469
talkin shit like I wouldn't find out?

>>16497476
Oh shit he bout to do it

>>16497476
ye nigga

go back to trying getting rejected by that frontierfag

>>16497495
>rejected
I'm not gay, me and him are cool tho

>>16497469
>see Mr Cummy making up specs on the spot
It's bad over there.

>>16497501
sup burbfaggot, hows that boat treating you?

>>16497469
It's like watching a Trump supporter trying to debate Hillary supporters but they refuse to believe facts so he can't really get anywhere.

>>16497505
I was the burb fag.
That was another burbfag

>>16497505
Quite well. How go those engineered to fail ball joints and gutless motors?

>>16497516
We're all burbfags here.

Burb Pride Worldwide.

>>16497499
*nuzzles you*
come out to the next San Diego meet ;)

>>16497520
I don't own a 4runner and I don't recommend people buy them, I just have lots of experience with all these trucks from working as a mechanic and hanging out with a lot of offroad people.
Nice try tho.

>>16497529
>mr cummy hangs out with offroad people
Yeah. Sure. Post pics of their kids if true.

>>16497529
How goes the cramped XJ with a warped head and toothpick axles?

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>>16497535
I don't own an XJ, I have an 85 toyota pickup 22r/sfa

>>16497543
How goes the gutless 4Runner pick up?

>>16497547
It's shit, I hate the 22r.
I wanna swap the motor but I haven't decided with what yet

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>>16495395
>Not being the only Burb with a rooftop AC unit is rather comfy
Pun not really intended

>>16492460
What? Details!!!

>>16492947
Black power?

>>16491411
>Apocalypse plans
Maybe we can make it to Deuce gal and convoy to Valhalla?

On a side note, Stickers came in! Prepare for pics. Gotta clean the windows on my way home from work now...

>>16497652
How did you setup the ac, need pics

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>>16497834
It's a leftover relic from its former glory. Along with other things I may or may not supposed to have...

Original owner was an ambulance company in rural PA. From my research into its past it looks like it was installed at the upfitter. It currently does not work, as it runs off of 120v household power, and the inverter to power the 120v electrical system on board was removed by the previous owner. I should try plugging it in via extension cord someday to see if it still works haha.

>>16497527
Where did all the burb folks come from? Were they all lurking? What drew them out from the woodwork? I'm digging this haha.

>>16496937
This. I found a cheap set for $100. Tires are crap, but they're worth running. Plus you can't go wrong for $100.

>>16495933
>>16495978
This... right in the feels. So much this where I live.
Hold me...

>>16494262
>>16494752
>TFW you need a legit staircase to work under the hood.

>>16497553
Should've bought a Suburban. I love mine.
You could always swap in something more powerful and reliable, like a 350.

>>16489487
RIP in advance for when you roll it

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>>16497889

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>>16498482

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>>16497535
Roomy & Comfy 'cause I'm not fat.
My head's not warped but I'm a little fuzzy 'cause I've been knocked unconscious too many times.
My toothpick and I will be happy to stop and help you when we find you stuck on the trail.
(Stopped to pull a 4Runner up a dry fall on this trail.) Nice folks.

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>>16498192
>350
>powerful

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>>16498571
255/330 stock is a lot betree than a 3.4 V6 or 22r. Mild cam and tune will easily get you to 300hp and still have tons of low end power.

>>16498571
>400hp builds for $1500 plastered all over the fucking Internet

Stop being stupid

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>>16498659
you cannot give a perfectly running 350 away for free, nobody wants that trash.
LS platform on the other hand... LM7, LQ9 etc etc, those are good motors, putting one in my volvo right now

>>16498669
350s are cheap because of enormous supply. It's the most common engine on the planet. LQ9s are priced out the ass and LM7s are about the same as the L31 but trade some low end for a little top end.

>>16498766
I got my LM7 for 300 off Craigslist and the junk yard has running pulls with ecu and harness and all the accessories for 500 on pallets ready to go all day long.
Using a 350 is absolutely retarded at this point which is why you cannot give them away at this point.
They are utterly depreciated.

>>16498797
LM7 has less low end power than an L31 and unless you're shooting for 500+ HP the higher purchase price will more than offset the lower cost to build an LS. "It's not going to lose value after I buy it" is not a reason to avoid it. It means it's holding it's value.

>>16498859
>trying to justify a SBC over an LS
I'm done, enjoy your leaky 2pc seal 50 year old motor

>>16498894
>Ignoring facts because the newer design couldn't possibly have ANY disadvantages compared to the older design.
Tell me again why you got a SFA model rather than a newer IFS model?

>>16498894
>trying to justify an LM7 swapped shitbox over a 2000hp Duramax tube buggy
It's almost like cost is an actual factor.

>>16498894
Post 85 has one piece.

Just admit you're mad that an engine exists that anyone with half a functioning brain can throw together for less than 2 grand and get 400HP

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>>16498989
>Just admit you're mad that an engine exists that anyone with half a functioning brain can throw together for less than 2 grand and get 400HP
Yes, I'm working on mine right now

>>16497380
Not yet, still in planning phase. It's a yj with a twisted frame

>>16498571
I'd take a lt1 any day of the week. Stroke it to a 383 and go party.

>>16499142
Most retarded statement of the day, LM7 with a cam and headers and a tune and you're at 400hp for 500 bucks plus 500 for the motor.
1000 dollars for 400hp

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Love the old dodges

>>16499166
The difference is I have 10 or 12 gm small blocks laying around and any of them could be stroked out for cheap and a 383 stroker sounds awesome. I'm not building a rock bouncer, I am just wanting to pull a few more horses from a block that has so many parts out for it. The deuce I run only makes 130 horse and 330 foot lbs of torque, but I wouldn't trade that engine for a modern equivalent. There is more to people's choices than raw power.

>>16499197
Are you 60?
You sound like a stereotypical boomer
That or you have autism

>>16499232
Are you 12? There's more important things than peak HP, especially in a 4x4.

>>16499295
And the 5.3 has good torque too?
You're the one throwing out numbers so I threw out numbers too.

>>16499232
Nope, I just like things that work. I'm 28, and while we had constant issues with the Oshkosh trucks which while having far more powerful engines, continued to die due to environmental issues, the 50 year old white tractor engines in the old AMgenrals, having only a fraction of the power, continued to turn so long as there was oil in them. With LS engines you need constantly computer input, but if you have a battery and some copper wire you can run a small block.

>>16499295
Is not
>>16499197

>>16499344
5.3 struggles on low end power compared to a 5.7.

>>16493006
55-60 dollars a week. 17 gallon tank on a 4runner + 17mpg on a good day + 60 mile commute every day

>>16499436
Source?

>>16499347
Wtf are you talking about LS engines are just as reliable as a 350, you can carb an LS too, so idk wtf you're talking about with computer input

>>16499512
People that drive multiple examples of both. Go check out some of the GM truck dedicated forums and ask around. This is common knowledge.

And keep in mind I'm comparing LM7 and L31. Don't come back telling me you found a guy saying an LQ4 is better all around than the stock 350 in a 72 C10 with half a million miles as if it means something.

>>16497543
no you have a shitty fiat 500

>>16499626
No that's Yeen Peen

>>16499626
Holy fuck no, kys

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>>16498485
were were were were were
I need another red bitch.

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I'm heading back down the mountain this evening. Still no chains and now the snow's melted a bit so it's icey and wet

Wish me luck, gentlemen

>>16497547

called a hilux.

>>16497553

what are your choices? 2.8l taco engine seems the easiest bet, but changing tanks to suit EFI sounds like a chore.

Then there's always

http://toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=22540&sid=108392c4c82c7ed2010a1d7847b6c176&start=50

>>16501596
good vibes to you anon

>>16489173
There are ORG stickers?

I just have a WAT Offroad Development sticker on the truck

>>16501984
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general

>>16501984
where ya been homie
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general
http://watracing.com/?product=off-road-general

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>>16502116
FOURTEEN SECONDS TOO LATE
REE
REEE
REE

>>16493006
128 liter tank @ 10 mpg I'll usually spend around 400$ a month depending on how much i drive.

>>16499512
How do you block name fags on mobile?

>>16502322
You stop browsing 4chan.

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>>16502134
a n g e r y ?

>>16502116
>>16502118
Neat

>>16502511
new year
who dis

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>>16502591
what did he mean by this

>>16501674
If I was gonna swap I wouldn't use a Toyota motor

>>16502633
because toyota a shit.

>>16502615
I KNEW IT

congrats on the dubbs >>16502511 btw. i believed in you.

>>16502633
Isuzu 4BD1T

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>>16502661
I always did believe.

what cool activities do you /friends/ like to do in the woods once youve wheeled in there?
personally i like to go explore on my mountain bike or fish if there is a lake <3

what is happening in this thread

when did mrcummy start offroading

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>>16502704
also i have a very nervous doggo so i like to walk him around the campsite to show him everything is ok <3

>>16502715
friendship <3

>>16502718
idk but i want everyone to offroad <3

>>16502704
>>16502723
>>16502732
fuck off taytay
this cringeworthy cuteposting needs to stop

>>16502748
not taytay and no it doesnt

>>16502718
He didn't he's just trying to bash anything that's cheap.

>>16502748
>cringeworthy
>cuteposting
choose one

>>16502704
I take my burb <3 and try to plink acorns off trees.

Also, since this is /ORG/ i c e r o l l i n g edition, how many of you people are on the east coast and are getting ice rain? Chain your tires, grab your winch, and be ready for a bunch of retards to come careening into your metal machines.

>>16502755
>says the guy who posts crows on the off road thread in the automobile section of an imageboard about chinese cartoons
ill fite you faggot

>>16502762
how about i choose both, faggot?

>>16502773
>try to plink acorns off trees
sounds fun!
i always have a shitty slingshot in the back i use to shoot cans with or whatever while i get drunk
its a blast

also
>east coast reporting in
i hope i dont end up like swiftposter i dont have chains but my st maxxs have been a dream so far

>>16502821
I'm not crownon. can't you read my name, faggot? this is crownon: >>16502511 >>16502615 You can fite him, tho.

>>16502833
bring an airgun or a .22 or something that won't kill someone if you fire it up in the air and it lands 2km down. good slingshots are only like $15 how do you have a shitty slingshot.

>i hope i dont end up like swiftposter
kekd. sorry taytay

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>>16502134
>impersonating me

A N G E R Y

(I'm actually somewhat flattered)

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>>16502821
>chinese cartoons
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU DAD. THEY'RE CALLED MANGOS.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16502857
idk i bought it for a dollar at a yardsale 4 states over on a trip i was on last year. guess it has a little sentimental value but its pretty awful

airgun is a great idea though im looking them up now. didnt realize they had gotten this extreme jesus

>>16502873
are you that guy that wants to see that one other guys butthole

(these threads are getting kind of weird desu)

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>>16502873
GLOBALIST IMPERSONATOR!
I AM THE REAL ALEX JONES.

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>>16502911
what the fuck did you just fucking say about me

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>>16502927
WE'RE COMING FOR YOU, GAY FROG.

I was gonna post a thread on the board about this but I figure I might as well ask here since there's "ice" in the name.

I have to get to work tomorrow at 7am and don't really want to die. We're getting around an inch of ice rain so there will be massive amounts of ice on the road during my 1hour commute (40mile drive and I leave early enough to avoid traffic). I'll be driving at highway speeds so what are things I can do to avoid dying on the road tomorrow morning?

Pls no bully. Am board tourist in an econoshitbox.

>>16502974
leave twice as early and drive as fast as traffic will allow

also weld in a roll cage and 5 point harness

>>16503010
I like my sleep doe. Also I literally have no idea what that second part means.

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I just got home and

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16503099
pls be trolling

Not trolling. Just a board tourist who drives a Toyota Fit to and from work and wants advice on how not to die tomorrow on the highway when driving on a whole 40mi of ice.

>>16497889
You don't need it, but it was laying around at the farm so I brought it down to florida with me. We used it to work on the combines, but we got a new one so now we use it on the boats down here in FL

>>16503194
Honda fit.

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>>16502873
>>16502911
>>16502927
>>16502943
THE GAY FROG HOLOCAUST IS HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES

FILTER YOUR WATER DAM IT!

>>16503201
Chain those drive wheels and keep your eyes open. If you can't see what is 15 seconds ahead, slow down.

>>16503313
I don't have chains and from what other people say on this board, all-seasons are horrible traction

>>16503155
Maybe it came through Logan international aeroport.

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>>16503463
K

>>16503413
>when highway driving turns into offroad driving
kek

Anon. Just remember that if / when you encounter a sudden brake, use the emergency lane instead of rear-ending some nig. Don't do sudden braking or you could lose control at high speeds. Rather, do a countersteer and try to control the situation rather than glide out of control. You have a Honda Fit and are asking how to drive safely so you're probably better than 99% of the crossover drivers on the road. Plus they won't be awake until you actually get to work.

The best thing to have for this is either chains or studded tires but since you have neither, all you can do is use your brain. Give vehicles in front of you 10 vehicles of spacing (since you're up that early) and don't go above 50 if you can avoid it on the highway. The salt trucks might be out that early but they also might miss areas so it'll be hard to tell.

I would also recommend staying in the left most lane as possible going at a slow speed even if that may trigger the speed autists. But fuck them - freezing rain isn't the time to be going fast, anyway. The right most lane will have too many retard mergers so just stay away from other cars as much as you possibly can.

>>16490945
that is fucking sexy

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>>16502718
?
I've been offroading fur years

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>>16503155
It just so happens mine came too!

WAT offroad is on my sticker window. Probably should have waited for warmer weather though...

>>16503195
Just poking fun haha.
I'd love a Deuce, or the newer cabover ones they have now that I can't remember the name of... but I have nowhere to park one atm.

>>16503956
>Half life logo on hood
Nice!

Where did that guy with the Black Mesa truck go? I haven't seen that truck in a while...

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I just bought an 98 xj 4.0 5spd pretty much as stock as it gets. What do I need to turn this into an affordable hunting and camping vehicle? Basically I just want to be able to get to where I need to go without breaking the bank. If it changes anything im in southern AZ

>>16504619
Keep it stock. You won't break the bank that way. You'd be surprised how capable an XJ is. Unless youre doing some serious rock crawling you should be fine

>>16490478
jesus even the car beside you has dents you guys got hit my hail or something

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Is it a bad idea to get a diesel engine if you live in an area that averages sub-zero temperatures in winter?

I know that your vehicle would have to be plugged in more often than Tesla, but I'm curious about just how reliable a diesel engine actually is in these conditions, and am having trouble finding a good answer.

Should a diesel engine just be out of the question in these conditions, or is it viable?

>>16504770
youll have trouble starting it but it should be fine for the most part. lots of people use them in alaska you just have to be patient when starting in cold temps

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/5961505894.html

is there any reason i shouldnt?

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>>16504619
Anon is correct. They are very capable stock.
Taking an off-road driving course is probably the best $ to spend first.
http://www.4x4training.com/
If you want to do more, a 3" lift and 31" tires and call it done.

>>16504334
see
>>16490218
>>16490170
>>16490304
>>16502511

>>16504770
Look for a vehicle with either higher than average compression or glow plugs and ether start

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>>16502704
Peak bagging, slot canyon exploring, exploring abandoned mines . . .

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>>16502704
Tracking animals, finding petroglyphs and keeping them secret . . .

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>>16502704
Shooting!

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>>16502704
But mostly just exploring.

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>>16505048
atf pls go back to /k/
you're not gunna get any doggos

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>>16505075
did someone say atf

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>>16505112
ATF ALERT EVERYBODY RUN

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>>16505143

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ITT: we summon the ATF.

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Who/what's ATF?
What's going on?

scared.jpg

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>>16505225
WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE WANT TO DO THAT

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>>16505349
because if they're here they'll be too distracted wadding through tayposts to find our meme gats

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>>16505360
wtf is that thing

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>>16505592
FUCK OFF ATF
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>16505592
it is an obrez

>>16505360
Lol I remember plastering that on every fb gun group triggering normies.

>tfw
>scrape your 16' barrel on a rock
>ATF kills your dog at home because you own a 15.9999' barrel gun now
http://www.guns.com/2017/01/13/bill-calls-for-abolishment-of-atf/

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YASSSS. I'm back. I got banned for Global Rule 1 for posting a picture of nude Milo Stewart (some 20 year old trans activist) on /pol/ that I found HERE.

Also, what the fuck has been happening here.
[spoiler]wilcum back, crownon[/spoiler]

>tfw
>freezing rain this morning but still gotta make deliveries
>i c e r o l l i n g in Nisshit R52
>almost driving into light poles and 50YO philipino women going 25klicks
I miss my shitbox Colorado chains and Ranger.

>>16502748
>cuteposting
not everyone who's cute is me, anon. i highly appreciate the sentiment, though.

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>>16505821
Welcome back.

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>>16505821
WHY DO YOU HAVE NUDES OF MILO STEWART

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>>16505899
>save it as an image I found on /ORG/
>use it to ask /pol/ what happened with the doxxing of seventh sons, morrakiu, that guy who married a jew, etc
>people on /pol/ start asking for sauce
>everyone avoids my question
>devolves into a trans wank bank
>i get banned
Also sorry for horrible photoshop but you get the point.

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>>16505957
rip: TRS
morrakiu was the only good person on the stream
pretty sure the guy who got doxxed and exposed for being cosher was the fat guy that nobody really liked anyways.

>>16505957
Lol, please don't post me on pol, that shit is cancer... not that it matters much

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>>16505988
Darn. Is the Merchant Minute stream still going, though? Everyone already knew what morrakiu looked like anyway.
Also: Christmas album.

>>16506056
Nah. You're safe on />o/ <33

(I was referring to the image that I was posted on two /ORG/s back of a trans supremacist. I reposted THAT on /pol/ and got me banned on which is fucking stupid)
I blame the winterball.

>>16505043
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>>16504952
>>>>/out/

>>16506093
>>16506056
>>16505988
>>16505957
>>16505899
>>16505821
>>16505629
>>>>/pol/

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>>16505048
>>>>/k/

>>16502943
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>>16502689
>>>>/mlp/

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>>16506141
>>>/reddit/

>>16506141
>>>/r9k/

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>>16502974
r u ded anon? did you die?

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>>16506272
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

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>>16506272

I've seen some crappy customisation and botched repairs in my time but I've never seen anything as ghetto as this

>>16506281
i got pulled over in utah once for having tires sticking out past the fenders and no mud flats. gotta have on or the other. i woulda chosen mudflaps though

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>>16506308
you should have called him a stupid nigger to his face and driven away.

>>16506342
Gotta remember this for next time.

why should I not get this 1997 TJ for $2000. it just requires a brake line and might have a small bit of spotty rust. but it's only $2000 and if i pump another $3000, i can easily get that resale value back up to more than that


http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/city-of-toronto/1997-jeep-tj-sahara-convertible/1208517690?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

if its not a 'mog you wasted your time and money

>>16507034
what's the fuel efficiency of 6x6s nowadays

>>16507034
>These are the same people that claim a Suburban is way too big to wheel

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>>16504952
""THIS IS TJE ONLY TURBO DIESEL TOYOTA DUALLY EVER MADE ,""
I have no idea what a TJE only is but I can't believe this was glanced over. What's the price, anon and PLEASE still be here. that fucking light bar, too.

turbo diesel tay yoda hilux on 7-9 inch lift running 35s with 6 wheels

>>16507162
>/ORG/ is one entity
oh otay

>>16507252
It's not ORG as a whole. It's the fangirls that judge capability by the badge on the hood.

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>>16507281
Fair enough. I misunderstood and was actually agreeing with you, hue.

>>16507078
12 MPG interstate for my Deuce

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>>16507399
That's better than I thought! Turbo it.

Speaking of that, you should offer transportation for party people and rent out the interior of your deuce for /k/ field larpers whilst shuttling them around paintball sites. I feel like depending on the places in the US, you can get a decent amount of money for your "redneck limo service". Especially being able to carry a party of like 20 people innawoods

>>16507460
Already turboed, 12 psi at 2600 RPM's. Also, 30 people :P

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>>16507748
50% more profit.

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>>16507767
KEEP THAT KIKE'S GRUBBY HANDS AWAY FROM THE TAY

>>16507868
thats dj khaled

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>>16507941
THAT'S A SAND JEW THEN

>>16507941
>>16507767
Bro stop aggro-ing crownon.

Dude already has enough mental illnesses.

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>>16508016
EVERYTHING SMELLS LIKE FISH SHIT

>>16493379
going for a long shot
salem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6lap5X_iFw

does /org/ like?

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>>16508098
No issues with vans as a whole. They are just larger, underpowered suburbans that are much more top heavy, heavier, longer, and fatter in general.
They're meant to carry a lot of stuff that weighs a lot. If you trick it out enough and lift it enough, I don't see what's wrong with it. Plus you have a lot of space for a mid-engine so that could even be a plus.