/mtg/ - Model Train General

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So I've got one of these Woodland Scenics foam incline/decline kits. I've never used one before.

If I want to fasten this to a foam surface, do I need the special "foam tack" glue that they sell, or would regular wood glue work?

>>1055058

Glue is poo
give it a too
rive it a moo
and go to the loo

>>1055058
Regular glue would probably work.
you might also stab a toothpick or something into both. I haven't tried it but it seems to make sense.

Jamaica Central rides again!

https://youtu.be/TNnN6mYA3kI

>>1055058
I've never seen that product before. I wonder if contact cement would work? Used that for cork roadbed in the past b4 using homasote.

>>1055058
Hot glue (lower temp ones at least) works, and I've heard good things about using silicon sealant as well. Haven't tried normal glue myself, but I suppose you could always try doing a small section as a test?

>>1055058
Sorry for the slow reply
PVA works

>>1055319
>>1056164
>>1056357
>>1056553
I ended up using wood glue & some metal pins.
Seems to work well with both the foam & cork roadbed.

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I would really like to build a small yard in this space here, but I've got no idea how to make it work.

Any ideas/suggestions?

>>1057273
Small radius switches and straight tracks as close as possible.

>>1057309
Space isn't so much the issue, it's how to actually connect it to the main.

Does anyone here use SCARM?

What have you made?

Who here does N-Gauge?

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>>1057876
A little, mostly to see if my hand drawn plans actually fit together. Made the rough outline of my in-progress japanese n gauge layout

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>>1057876

So, gentleme/n/, at what dimensions do you begin to consider a table to be 'not tight' for HO scale?

>>1058825
Depends on what stock you're running really, a single car DMU can look perfectly at home on a well made 4x8, or even smaller.

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>>1055056
I have this saved, never thought it would be relevant.

>>1058832
I wouldn't put HO on an 8x4 tbqh, I think you can get more efficient use of space by employing a shelf type layout.

https://youtu.be/7LCcrM5As1U

https://youtu.be/RNGDQnGrERQ

https://youtu.be/HsD0vKesnQw

Greetings from the Jamaica Central railroad.

>>1060977
No

>>1062310
Not an argument.

There's a model railroad club in my area.
They have a large setup in an old train station that takes up the whole room.
The tracks by the building are still in use, so the whole building shakes when a freight train goes by.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nquN6nLufg

>>1058825
pretty much any HO curve is too tight, unless you're going across a room in a big loop. Better to terminate it into a tunnel or sky-box and hide the sharp corners in the fiddle.

>>1058825
^ use half the board with high detail rather than a whole shabby board.

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>>1058825

The primary curve here is right around a 12in radius. Depending on the engine it can have issues. I have some engines from the 60s with the couplers on the wheel set, they can do it fine regardless of it being a 4 or 6 set.

If you have engines with the coupler attached to the frame, for a 4 wheel axle set I would not go less than 15, if using steam engines you want 20+.

How much have y'all spent on this hobby?

I'm ashamed to say that over the past 3 years or so I've probably spent at least several thousand dollars.

>>1064400

I inheirated locos and stock worth 10-15k. In the past year I have spent right around 1500.

>>1064400
I probably have about 4k of N gauge on the bookshelf behind me right now, and another 1-2k in other scales packed away in boxes. Also have about $400 in new rolling stock in the mail, should get here sometime soon hopefully.

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Damn, O scale looks like THAT?

>>1064566
Hell yeah. MTH put out models of this.

>>1064380
Haven't seen you post in a while. What's your plans for your layout now then?

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My BLIs, HO scale

>>1065064

Life. Taxes hit me hard, got made lead on multiple areas of our city governments new software implementation (no time), and getting more autistic about proper scales.

In next few months I should start doing stuff again. Considering going full retard and doing outdoor n-gauge shinkansen and amtrak. Mix it in with my idea for giant bugs and megaflora. I have a sequoia in my yard, planting some sakuras, and going to put in a small pond feature.

Or ill just blow all that money on amtrak rides, dunno yet.

>>1065261
Get that Amtrak groove on soon. No telling what Orangeman will do.

>>1065261
>outdoor n-gauge
you're insane

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>>1065261
Surprisingly enough, outdoor N gauge Shinkansens have been tried before!
http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/10284-garden-layout/?hl=outdoor

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Finally got around to installing a decoder in my 0 series shinkansen, ran it on the local club layout the other night.

>>1065736
Nice, that model is the most aesthetic IMO. What did the other club members think of it?

>>1058354
I'll bet they're wondering where the lube oil went. Or did that unit experience a traction motor fire/meltdown in No's 3 and 4?

>>1064400
That sounds about average. Personally, I only have approx CAD$2000 invested that's spread out over about 25 years. 80% of that in the past 6 yrs. I didn't have to spend hardly anything in the early days because exactly 30 years ago I had a roommate who got into model trains around 1980. He had a ~huge~ collection of locomotives and rolling stock that I could pick from & access to a 2,000 sq/ft club layout.

In 1992 I helped him catalog all his brass ho scale Canadian Pacific steam locomotives for insurance purposes. He had a representative model for EACH and EVERY class of steam locomotive the CPR ever had. I can't remember how many there was (guessing 80+ models) but I do know we were both stunned to calculate he had spent over CAD$80,000 on just the brass alone. He had another 150 or so plastic diesels (most kitbashed & superdetailed) & countless freight cars. He got into G-scale in '89.

I wish I had pics of our apartment. We were tripping over trains! Shelves everywhere crammed with Athearn boxes, train books, etc. Big builders photos of CPR 2-10-4 Selkirks everywhere. Our dining area in our apt was our modelling area. Had a vented paint booth, airbrush, dremel, work desk, etc. We had a gold carpet, so detailed parts often got lost in it. Every few months we'd put a fresh bag in the vacuum cleaner & vacuum that area only. We'd hear dozens of detail parts getting sucked up. Afterwards we'd pull the bag open & recover those little pieces. lol!

So don't feel bad. (sorry for the long post, got a bit nostalgic).

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>>1065747
Thanks, it was pretty popular, although the Kiha 82 series DMU I ran earlier got a lot more compliments, probably cause I've got the interior lit and detailed on that one. Also got DCC installed on my DD51 loco, next up is to put a sound decoder in a kato C62.

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>>1065908
Huh, 4chan really doesn't like posting pics from phone from some reason.

>>1062645
Massive. Are those bridges seen on the right at 6:20, 6:55 and 7:20 functional too?

>>1064400
Too little. Laptop has shat itself, replacing that will cost a lot and I really should save for OS travel, my wanderlust needs to be dealt with. I should probably make a micro with what I've got.

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A question for those engaged in this hobby: What is the appeal for you? Are you interested in prototypical operations and accurately modeling certain periods, regions, or roads, or are you just interesting in watching toy trains run around in a loop? Or some other reason?

>>1055056
I know this movie.

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Is there any company that makes pic related?

>>1066533
Mostly I enjoy capturing/recreating the feeling of a certain time and place, even if it's something I could never have seen myself.

>>1066756
Bachmann does, in HO
http://shop.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=258_276_915

>>1066533
For me: a way to preserve a narrow slice of time, location, and style of operations that contain my favourite locomotive operating on my favourite subdivision of my favourite railway, as accurately as possible.

I like mountain railroading, long slow slogs up & down grades with minimal switching but lots of supporting physical plant like steel bridges, wooden trestles, tunnels, telegraph lines, etc. Mostly I enjoy building it all.

>>1062645
That was pretty enjoyable to watch. Looks like they haven't yet fully stocked it though.

>>1066533
A bit of everything. An interest in tiny machines and how they work. Lots of stuff I like, too lazy to list.

>>1065285
>I actually agree with Ithaqa
Truly these are strange times.

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Just ordered this beauty. Anyone have any experience with Hornby D16s? Are they good runners?

>>1064400
I think I've been pretty frugal so far, but it's an expensive hobby...

Let's see here...

I've probably spent about...

$50 on paints + brushes
$250 on basswood
$200 on scenery details
$150 on 3D Printed stuff
$125 on Tomix chassis'
$50 on stuff it turns out I can't actually use
$25 for a transformer
$200 worth of trains this month
$265 worth of engines and rolling stock prior to that... I've been working on this one for a while, so really I was pretty good about not spending much on actual engines and cars right up until this month
~$20 worth of glue
~$50 worth of tools just to get started
~$25 on engine maintenance stuff
$100 on building facing stuff
$30 for windows
About $200 for track

So... So far I'd estimate that I've spent somewhere between $1740 and $2000 on this, since I probably forgot something somewhere along the line. I've been pretty frugal up until this month by just trying to focus on scenery and only buying trains when I find a deal that's too good to pass up. So before this month my fleet consisted of... 1 car that I scratch-built, 1 boxcar, 1 caboose, 1 Dash-9, 1 steam engine, 3 Jackson Sharp Excursion cars, and 5 3D-printed shells on Tomix chassis. So I had 6 cars, 3 engines, and 5 powered commuter rail cars; 14 total.

This month I've bought 3 tank cars, 6 box cars, and 2 engines, so I've almost doubled the size of my fleet this month. It's expensive.

At this point I have about 4 and a half square feet of layout I'm actively working on, and of that, a section about about 0.5 feet by 2 feet is more or less complete, and the rest is about a quarter of the way done maybe? You could use those figures to say that layouts cost about $1000 per square foot, but it's probably not quite that bad because this particular layout is... Probably much more expensive per square foot than normal layouts, and because I've bought more trains than I'm actually able to use at the moment.

>>1066533
Kind of both? I study history, I like trains, and I like seeing toy trains run around in a loop, but most of all I just like to make nice looking things. It brings me a sort of satisfaction that just sitting on the couch watching TV doesn't.

>>1068153
To clarify also, I'm doing N scale stuff, and I started on November 14, 2016. So I suppose I've spent somewhere around $1740-$2000 on this in about 6 months... Maybe I have enough trains for the time being...

>>1067917
Very nice. I got my BR Lined D16 a couple years ago, I can't help but love how these locos look. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to run it (constantly moving house, not having a layout etc) but I've read good things about them.

>>1068154
Why does N-scale cost more than HO?

>>1068406
Depends on where you're trying to model. In the US and Europe, HO is the predominate scale and is there for the cheapest, as it sells the most volume. In Asia, N is much more popular and thus is much cheaper, sometimes extremely more so. I spent less on a N scale 16 car shinkansen set than I did on my last HO Loco, although plenty of exceptions do occur. Just look at kato japan, USA, and Europe prices, the models aren't that much different in terms of quality or detail, yet the difference in price is crazy.

>>1068406
N scale is cheaper if buying from discount retailers and ebay.

Most bare-bones (non-DCC) HO scale locomotives by companies like Athearn and Atlas cost about $100 new, and that's with a discount. By comparison, most new N scale locomotives by those same companies will retail at $75-80. Rolling stock prices are comparable across scales but even then HO seems cheaper overall.

>>1069038
>Rolling stock prices are comparable across scales but even then N seems cheaper overall.*

>>>/toy/

>>1069043
>>>/asp/
>>>/fit/
>>>/fa/
>>>/sp/
>>>/lgbt/

>>1068406

Depends on the country. Here in the UK N-gauge definitely cheaper than OO, I don't think I've ever seen any comparative product more expensive in N apart from one-off or crowdfunded ones.

>>1068153
Do you have your own 3d printer?

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I'm kinda regretting my decision to go DCC with my N scale locos, I haven't felt this much rage in quite a long time. Digitrax decoders have been breaking right after 90% of the install is done, probably wont choose that brand again.

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Ran some rural freight at the local club last night.

>>1072334
Nice consist and scenery. Layout looks like it's modeling the Tehachapis in SoCal, which club is that?

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>>1072339
Right on the money! It's Belmont Shore Club in San Pedro, they have a huge N scale layout modeling so-cal area and Tehachapi. I only get a few grumbles when I run my japanese rolling stock on the line, but I'll be running some more local trains during their open house on the 20th.

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>>1072339

>>1072356
>>1072357
Neat, is that the Kato GS4 that was just released?

I have a couple of those WP F3s myself, except I modified the lettering on the A units to a later version to fit with the late 1960s-eearly 1970s era I model. Also I have them pull freight rather than passenger trains.

I don't have a lot of space so F units and 40' boxcars are ideal consists. Long passenger cars require too large of a radius to operate in my current situation.

>>1072371
Its actually the first release, with all the problems those had. After I hardwired in the decoder, it runs much better . Still throws traction tires every once in a while though. The F units are pretty great, very solid runners, although one has a speed matching problem I can never seem to get quite right.

>>1070886
That's infuriating. How long does it take to upload software?

>>1072334
The boxcar left from an accident is a nice touch.
>>1072356
>I only get a few grumbles when I run my japanese rolling stock
People can be real faggots. Who cares if some jap shit is running for a few minutes? What do they do, say racist jokes?
>>1072357
Another great scene. This layout is gorgeous. I'd love to see more pics if you have them.

>>1072357
Needs some telegraph lines.

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>>1073620
I don't have too many saved, I'll try to take some more this weekend.

>>1073630
Most of the layout already has them, that's one of the last few scenes that still need them added.

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New project, I'm building an N scale diorama in a display case.

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Going to have the rail line on an embankment, and then a street and sidewalk on the lower level. This is my current progress.

>>1074222
Cool, where did you buy the display case? What are the dimensions? I've been thinking about doing something like this lately myself.

>>1074237
I got them from the local daiso, but I believe their US website carries them every few months.

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>>1064380

Well I'm back in business. I found out that I have the ability to work from home and so I spent this weekend building a computer desk. One thing led to another.

12ft to the corner, 5ft out. Will continue down the other wall another 8ft or so once done. Can set my desktop and monitors up in the corner and have a spot for papers/desktop maint next to it. Will do a raised loop that ties in with what I already built. Got this far on excess wood from shed with exception to 3/4 birch plywood for corner.

>>1074722
That's some slick shit yo

>>1074722

Please don't leave your models under sunlight, plastics don't fair well with UV light.

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>2017
>not operating a T scale layout

What's your excuse? You can't blame it on a lack of space.

>>1074824
Earthquakes.

>>1074824
T is very rare in the states and probably cost an arm and a leg.

>>1074830
>probably cost an arm and a leg.

So does O scale, dipshit.

>>1074823

Good to know, thanks

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>>1074722

Here is general design. I have enough track for it. Pain is going to be getting the raise/lower right. Since I will be operating shorter trains (8-15 short hoppers) that will be going between the inglenook and time saver puzzles I can do pretty steep grades. The family lines switcher handles 8 hoppers with ease at 5%.

Curves on upper rail will be 19/20 so should be able to handle a big boy assuming its not going too fast. Just realized that means I will need to bump out the width on the other table arm to 40, will see if I can pull that off.

Anyone got any tips on making a track plan?

Getting back into the hobby and I've not done it since I was young, so I'd like my layout to be a little more realistic than I'm used to.

What brands are people using nowadays anyway?

>>1074964
If HO Bachmann makes a modular track. There should be some sites that show layouts with the length of track shown.

>>1074832
Not much stock of the trains that I want. I'm into modern British trains

>>1074998
Thanks anon, unfortunately I'm a Britbong so HO's probably not a viable choice due to it being rather expensive over here.

That being said, I do like their OO line of products.

>>1075005
HO and OO are the same gauge afaik

>>1074824
I don't like modern Jap shit.

>>1075047
You're right, excuse me.

Apparently HO and OO are the same gauge, but slightly different scales.

>>1074722

Slow progress. Trying to not buy wood. Got the upper mainline half circle put in with the cork, will try to put some sort of mountain in where the lamp is at down the road. Got the rise in partially. I was trying to use some of my grandpas old switches but they keep cracking, guess that is what 30-40 year old track gets

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>>1075329

>implying attachment

>>1074223
Keep up the good work.

>>1074722
You can have one sick battle station. Post on /g/ I think they would like it. It's very unique.
>>1074832
Yeah, that's why only faggots like Ithaqua use it. 3 rail trash.
>>1074926
Looking good
>>1074998
>modular track
Kys
>>1075331
Now that I look at it, why didn't you go with n scale?

>>1075331
Hide rgb leds under the table/desk for lulz and rice points on /g/

>>1074722
>>1075331
Hmmm, I was thinking. What if you put glass over it? You have a huge amount of desk space and it would look so cool. Then build your pc in the middle part under glass. Those builds are so awesome.

>>1075396
I didn't go n scale because I already had that one section completed as ho and I figured to double down. I will make a level about window height that is a simple circle around the desk for an n scale to run on. Nothing fancy but then I can see my amtrak and shinkansen.

>>1075401
I will keep this idea in the back of my mind and think on it.

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Club had their open house this weekend, was great fun but I'm pretty tired afterwards.

hi guys

I have one of these http://www.lionel.com/products/southern-diesel-freight-conv-gp38-2730-6-31938/

in ok condition. I got it many years ago when I was much younger... How much is it worth? I see the engine by itself go for like 70$ on eBay.

Oh, and it has some extra track.


thanks a bunch;

t. first time on n

>>1075551
That's pretty nice.
Care to get some shots of the roundhouse next time?

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>>1075594
This is the only one I have on hand, I'll try to take some more of the engine house and the city next week.

>>1075619
Cool.
The JCRR rides again.

https://youtu.be/PuSvCMBrMqA

https://youtu.be/CQ1R6KBhAPM

>>1075642
>I love you! My new video about you ) t. Your Angelica

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My squad lineup. I've got a thing for BR lining

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Anyone here gone full autism and started making their own tracks? I use code 100 nickel silver but it seems like they only make straight switches.

I have a switch from the 70s/80s that is curved code 100 that would worked, but worried about building it in and having the switch motor fry and trying to find a replacement. Should I make my own switch or modify the layout to be straight, or throw caution to the wind with an old switch?

>>1075773
A quick google seems to show plenty of code 100 curved turnouts, but if you think making your own would be easier....

>>1075578
Lol. Neat shots, I liked your use of focus here (>>1075544) in particular.

>>1075781

Sad, means the guys at my local hobby shop were lying to me. Never even considered this a possibility. Thanks

>>1075788
No worries, its seems that nowadays most hobby shops barely know more than what they have in stock, so I've mostly taken to internet searches to find items and get fair prices for them.

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A bit more progress on the display diorama, got some new cars from japan today too.

>>1075427
>already had that one section completed as ho and I figured to double down.

Just be aware that you may have trouble with your rolling stock/locomotives on those very sharp curves .
>>1075542
Why are you tired?

>>1075546
hhhnnnggg
>>1075550
I love this livery, looks fantastic.

>>1075551
Very, very nice.
>>1075619
That's just awesome. Great picture.
>>1075718
Nice>>1075773
>Anyone here gone full autism and started making their own tracks?
No but I want to.
>>1075840
Keep up the good work.

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>>1075851

The rise is 19" radius and the raised level is 20/21" radius, I thought that was large enough for most locos?

Either way those both vastly beat the 12" I have in the inglenook puzzle. The only things in the lower level will be pic related. Will probably pick up some more of these stock because I really like them.

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>>1075880
>>1075851

Eh oh well, guess I didnt want to run the fullsized amtrak, santa fe, berl north anyways. Will need to pick up some shorter coaches.

>>1075787
Thanks! I'm trying to experiment with focus stacking to try to get more realistic pictures, but glad that you enjoy what I've done so far.

>>1075886
Nice GN F45 and SDP45! I wish Athearn would release the SDP45 in N scale.

>>1075886
Love those ore cars anon, wish they weren't so pricey in N. The longer motive power may not match the curves, but the switcher and shorter wheelbase cars look great.

>>1075886
>>1075889
Actually that looks like it might be an SDP40 (no visible radiator flare in the back).

>>1066533
Yes.

But seriously though, it's just fun. It's a little hard for me to explain, but I guess nearly over half of my family members who worked on the railroad at some point has some part of the influence.

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>finally investing money into trains again
>decide to plan new layout
>want to run Union Pacific 4-10-2 on said layout
>UP 4-10-2 has a 56 mile long wheelbase
>Ho Lee Fuk
>wont have room to build table big enough to run the "battleship"
>pic related

Well, at least I still have Frisco to model after...

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>>1075890

Was considering getting some in z or n and setting up a sort of iron ore mine with those as the mine cars, but dont want to spend my life savings on rolling stock. I think these ended up at around 8/per which is fine for me.


First time doing any scaffolding, I think this is fine but could definitely be better.

>>1075902
I've loved seeing this layout progress over how ever many threads it's been... Keep up the good work!

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>>1076028

Thanks. Building the layout is a lot of fun, my kids are going to love it when its done.

Pic is the biggest hangup I have on the upper rail. The first nail makes a jaring turn that is derailing my longest cars.

Picked up some grey paint and some ledge stone chunks. Will post some pictures shortly, really like how it is coming together

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>>1076034

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>>1076053

>>1076056
Looking good, don't forget to support the other side of the bridge too!

>>1076076

Really should have done other side first. Is really going to be a pain.

>>1076089
The way I would have built it would have been to build all the trestle bents first in a jig, then just glue them in place at once. The cross pieces can be added last just like on full size railroads.

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Happened to stop by the train shop and they were just finishing up restoring this old guy.

>>1076814
How does that thing handle the curves?

>>1076996

Better than it has any right to. I have issues going down the slope front-first, but if I reverse down it I have no issues. When I finalized the slope the family lines switcher was able to pull the 8 cars on its own fine as long as it did not stop in the process.

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>>1077042

Got another section of the desk in, four feet left to go. Will probably work on drawers before I do that. Going to need to stop buying train stuff and buy three or four matching monitors. Also cant find any of my dvi/vga cables which is sad.

Considering doing a loop around the monitors and calling it good for the HO track, then doing an N layout on the other side.

>>1075773
>..full autism and start making their own tracks?
Yeah, I used to hand-lay ties & rail for a 2,000 sq.ft model train club in Alberta in the 1980's. I rather enjoyed it.. It's practically an art form. Almost no other members liked, or wanted, to do it.. just 2 of us. Usually 2 of us came down between club nights (wednesdays), cranked some classic rock, and worked on expanding the track layout for a few hours in the evenings from 6-9 pm.

We used a Kadee spiker for the rails and had a good method perfected where we could keep the rails straight and centered. We super-elevated curves when appropriate and used a graduated easement method to make them look natural & realistic.

We had to hand spike the scratchbuilt switches. That was time consuming but I averaged approx 10 hours per switch, from gluing the switchtie template down to switch completion. They looked and functioned better than the commercially available switches back in the day. It was also cheaper too.

I enjoy watching yours (& others) progress. I'm about to do my very first "layout" consisting of a pair of 5' x 2' modules portraying a diesel servicing facility and a few yard tracks. It's not much but then I don't have much space but still better than nothing.

>>1077044
>Erich von Daniken
Ugh... i'll assume that bottle of whiskey(?) behind the fan is for after reading that. ;^)

btw, wish I had that much space. There'd be at least one track looping all the way around.

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>>1077052

Yeah, have been intending to read it for the keks but hard to get into. Found a bottle of rum while cleaning that is who knows how many years old.

>>1077050

It sounds like something that would be a lot of fun, dont think I have the time to get into it though.

>>1077070
Looking good, are you going to have a run around track for the locomotive at the other end, or a full loop?

>>1077044
>Erich von Daneken
worst taste anon

>>1077044
Nah keep with the HO layout all the way round, think that would look pretty impressive desu. Would you do it as a mixed gauge layout if you were gonna do anything N gauge though? Or just have 2 separate layouts?

>>1077143
I will probably just do a very raised loop for N, only have an amtrak loco + cars and a shinkansen that I want to run.

Unsure how I will pull it off yet. The desk is only 29" wide which is too small for that steam to turn around. So I will need to have it come out to at least 40. That makes my room more tight than comfort but no real choice.

>>1077102
>ve solved problems, did you know in my first book ve had 1000 questionmarks. In my second we had 500 questionmarks. That is good progress

>>1076106
>tums
Something on your layout causing heat burn? lol
>>1076814
Looks good
>>1077044
I am now addicted to multi monitor set ups. It's worth it.

I have not googled this yet but going to start a conversation on switchboard designs. I am interested in using some of those metal two-position toggle switches but unsure how to go about it.

Electrical is something I have little experience with. I have a feeling that toggle switches would give a constant input, wouldnt that fry out the switches (fried one when my kid held it down)?

Any kek pictures of switch layout?

>>1077255
If you're worried about solenoid/coil switches getting fried, you may want to use capacitor discharge circuits to control them.

>>1077255
go check out /diy/
They have general threads related to that as well as "questions that don't deserve their own thread" threads

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>>1077255
Pic was the switchboard from my grandfathers track. Was around 10 x 10 in the same room as mine is in.

One summer I stayed at college instead of coming home. My aunt and uncle wanted to store more crap upstairs. They threw anything not bolted down or what could be broken off into boxes (including locos) and cut the layout up and threw it away.

>>1077255
I will wait until I have all the layout done I think, then I will build a switchboard.

>>1077348
Love diy, mostly go for the woodworking threads.

>>1077357
>They threw anything not bolted down or what could be broken off into boxes (including locos) and cut the layout up and threw it away.
REEEEE

>>1077494

Most annoying thing is he had a pond/lake and a river leading to it. Built into this was a homemade sawmill.

>into the trash it goes

If these still existed I would have been able to work them into my layout.

>>1077551
I'm truly sorry to hear that. It boils my blood. How can people be so incompetent?

After lurking here for awhile I'm thinking of starting an N scale layout since I only have "25x44" would. I plan on using sectional tracks with roadbeds since I plan to move put soon. Sooo
1) should I go with kato unitrack?It seems to have really good reviews.
2) should i start off with "9.75" or "11" radius.
3) what can I get away with running on those radius curves? I don't mind starting small, like gp38 or sw1500 small, but could I also use those radius curves for some amtrack california locomotives and rolling stock?

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>>1077808

Here is an amtrak loco and 10 cars doing a 12" radius oval. At full speed there were no derailments.

Biggest issue id say is that it doesnt look very good.

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>>1077855

16 car shinkansen does not explode in fiery doom at full speed on 12" radius. Does look like garbage though

>>1077808
Unitrack is a good choice, especially for temporary layouts when you're not going to be living somewhere for more than a few years, or if you have limited space. If you plan to do temporary set up then http://www.katomodels.com/unitrackplan/ is a great resource for plans and ideas. I've even seen some great permanent layouts using the track and plans.

>>1077255
Those single-throw (2 position switches) will damage solenoid type switch machines for the very reason you suspect & complicate the wiring unnecessarily (you'd need 2 per switch). They should work on the tortoise switches okay as I think they have built in circuitry that disconnects the power when the switch points complete their movement.

You could use a double-throw (up-off-down) 3 position switche but you would need to toggle it quickly and return it to center-off. Ideally you can use a momentary double-throw which will return to center (Off) upon relessing the switch. The club I used to belong to used these with their solenoid type switches.

Another method would be to use a pair of momentary push buttons. Push one button to throw the switch one way, the other vice versa. Just make sure they are Normally Open types.

>>1077858
Top kek, that thing almost completes a circle.

Monitors in with three way HDMI switch for desktop/work latitude/personal thinkpad. Latitude dock shelf installed, waiting on hdmi to dvi cords for thinkpad to come in tomorrow and will install that. Got the upper rail installed past the monitor stand. Need to work in two more monitors for my XP boxes and wife's computer.

Evidently the 2-8-8-2 can handle the 12in radius corners on my inglenook, found this interesting. On lower level will go past monitors as well. Going to do a siding for a breakdown car, make a stack of rail from old broken pieces and cut some ties to put in stack, have some old broken metal wheels as well.

Wife told me to bansai a maple tree or two to put in the open area between puzzle and the rise. Going to try to do a log camp type thing and get a crane kit. Need to finish the walls with some clear glue and some greenery. Think I need to work in a storage barn for the 2-8-8-2 so if anyone has ideas that will be cool.

Kids were playing with switcher + ore cars + caboose and flipped a switch while I was gluing something. Whole rig except for switcher fell off the edge of earth. Only damage was a coupler and my sanity.

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>>1080614

>>1080814
Any updates on this?

>>1080814
Coming along nice.

>>1082104
>>1082256

Now that desk is together been using it to watch anime instead. I need to build some shelves to store my trains/random crap on the desk so I can finish the remainder.

Trying to decide how far I want to go before doing the turn. Going to build a test turn with a 15" radius and see how the 2-8-8-2 handles it. Space is limited down that direction. If I can do a 15" the table only needs to come out another inch.

Still think I want to do some sort of timesaver/spacesaver at the other end. Need to map it all out to make sure the electric directions are all good. When all switches are in i'll buy the correct sized dcc.

>>1082310
>been using it to watch anime instead.
Kek

Keep on posting pics as you build. It's a very interesting layout.

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Back in 2015 I got myself a Bachmann WW1 ambulance train pack.

Quite the gem if you ask me.

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Which one of you posted this?

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TurboTrain is coming to N scale, in both US and Canadian paint schemes.

Seems cool but kinda pricey. PC/Early Amtrak would fit my modeling era, though.

http://rapidotrains.com/n-turbo-2/

>>1085280
Damn.. it's almost a sure bet that limited run Rapido products will only go up in value. They have some nice looking stuff.

Now only if they would make a CPR steel side caboose, CPR #22xx series lightweight coaches, and maybe a CNR H12-64.

>>1085287
I forgot to say: in HO scale.

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Rapido is always releasing these New Haven coaches in N scale.

>>1085280

Youch...

>MSRP (CAD$) DCC equipped models
>$369.95 3-car set
>$449.95 5-car set
>$199.95 4-car add-on

>>1085533
They are pretty pricey, but when you consider $400 is the average price for one shitty 3-rail O scale locomotive it doesn't seem as bad a deal, relatively speaking. At least the DC Penn Central is only $299, so probably $250 if you can get it on modeltrainstuff. I probably won't buy one but it's neat that someone is making this for the N scale market.

>>1085536
I have to agree with you. And the models are pretty well detailed and operate smoothly it seems. And I can't fault a company that puts out runs on models that no one else will make. I see him on the 'CanModelTrains' forum on Yahoo groups all the time and he gets a lot of requests.

>>1083999
Cool
>>1085210
> ran over his sheep
Top kek
>>1085280
Pure sex
>>1085454
I always like seeing local stuff. CT is small and there isn't much for modeling it other than kitbashing.

>>1083999
got any more pics of it?

>>1085900
Glad to hear it.

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>>1085939
I sure do.

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>>1085988

Buyfag with deskset here, superjelly.

>>1086018
Still doing the loop at the other end?

>>1086008
I see.

What's that locomotive you have?

>>1086151
Thats the plan, general route pic related.

>>1086158
Some 2-8-8-2 I found in grandpas collection. Was pretty kek because guy at the parts shop remembered repairing it 25 or so years ago just before grandpa died.
>>1076814
Just bought six coaches and a matching luggage coach
https://www.hobbylinc.com/model-power-1890-wooden-type-coach-santa-fe-re-issue-ho-scale-model-train-passenger-car-716100

>>1086018
What the fuck why are these so expensive? $4,000 on a toy train really?!

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>>1086307
These are HO not G?

>>1086307

Found the poorfag.

>>1086327

I was just browsing the front page

>I thought this pic was a drawing of arteries in the cock and balls.

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Who here L(ego) scale?

>>1086396
I'd be tempted to impulse buy a set, surprisingly inexpensive considering how much of a rip off a lot of lego is

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Any of you see anything that might cause problems on this switch?

Causes derailment on anything powered when attemping to turn onto the switch, going through it the other direction has no issues. My family lines switcher handles it fine, everything else derails.

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>>1087010

One that works, looks like it was made defective.

>>1087010
Try going over it very slowly with a heavier loco and find exactly where it derails.

>>1087017
Its on the back side so I cant see it directly. Looking at the two different switches looks like the cause is the part that swings is missing something. Ill just pick up another one on wednesday, if I pulled it to fix it I would end up shattering who knows how many of the brittle 30 year old ties.

>>1087010
Get out a caliper, and measure the distance between the rails. It looks like both the entrance, and 1/2 way through the distance changes.

>>1086282
Quite an impressive model.

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>>1086282
Shit tier garbage. Couplers are all over the place with no consistancy across the seven cars. I !cut off the kaydee! bits because I dont care and they were catching. That made them able to roll over the track mostly fine but they still just derail for no reason. In addition the couplers have tons of up/down travel and unhook themselves on any gradient change, I dont have any other rolling stock that does this. Trucks like to random derail in places I have never had trouble for.

Going to hobby shop to see if they have any ideas, if not going to replace with non broken couplers and return.

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>>1088315
So I think the plan is going to be cutting the coupler arm off of the wheel sets and body mounting it. There is too much sway between the wheel sets movement and the couplers movement. This will tighten it up and assure it stays level.

I am also considering linking all of the cars together into one unit. Unsure about how to do that and if there is an easier way. Some sort of possible kit providing me the links? Dunno.

So many extremely talented people on 4chan. Every picture in this thread was so damn awesome.

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Triggered.

Seems like a bunch of stuff decided to break at once.

Can N scale be fun on a 2'x2' board? What's the bare minimum?

>>1088407
Bogie mounted couplings are shit. I'd consider chopping of the entire arm from the bogie and then mounting a Kadee draught box right there on the body between the steps.

Also check the wheel back-to-backs.

>>1088512

See
>>1077858
>>1077855
That is probably 2x3.5.

>>1088514
How do I remove this style of wheel set?

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>>1088531
Nevermind got it.

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Built the loading for the coaches and a walkway from old broken parts.

>>1089075
>>1088656
Really can't wait to see this finished. Great work so far!

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All thats left to go is some sort of station building as far as this part is concerned. Went with an open roof due to it being a steam engine and all. It kind of has that japanese country station styling.

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Found this spotlight, any idea how I might be able to integrate this given my previous posts. Would like to find a way to work this in without my setup looking like Dachau

>>1089379
You could use it as a yard light in the Inglenook area.

>>1089379
Serious question: has anyone ever modeled the concentration camps?

>>1089385
Apparently yes, they actually did a pretty good job of it...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2963987/Tourist-attraction-popular-children-sparks-anger-displaying-model-railway-version-Auschwitz-complete-cattle-trucks-slave-labourers-huts.html

Ithaqua pls respond

Anon living in Japan atm, over the past few months I've gotten more into trains here. Is there a guide for model trains in Japan? If not is there a normal general guide for model trains?

>>1091682
Oh fuck...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/448515/alex-batey-rip

>Yep, Alex loved to share his passions. The beautiful model trains and buses he saved for were delivered to NR, and after opening them with care he showed them off, tossing in a gratis lecture on why this 1932 Whatchamacallit Steam Engine was more accurate than his 1947 HolySmokes Diesel. His home basement was turned over to this hobby, wall to wall, and he took countless pictures and videos of his beloved layouts.

RIP Ithaqua AKA Alex Batey. Who the fuck would have guessed that he worked at the National Review?

Also, does this mean Ithaqua knew Armond White?

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I'm a sucker for life like coaches. As in, the 60 foot light up ones.

I have more rolling stock than engines, but somehow I still want more rolling stock. The reason for pic related was: if life-like had a showroom using their base model stuff, how good or bad would it be.
I'm still looking for more coaches of life like or precursor companies (Penn line baggage car, Varney baggage car, or coaches in santa Fe from any of those three) the thought of a train of 14 of those coaches being hauled by only one of those pancake diesels... Oof.

>>1091882
Just get an N scale Kato Zephyr or Super Chief set. I think you can get them new for a couple hundred bucks.

>>1091884
This is HO. I'm more of a collector than actually able to run (if you cant see by the snaptrack)
The only time I might splurge is if I do the thing I always wanted, a 360 degree camera inside of a dome car, and I want to be actually able to see out the windows.

Another thing Im working on is collecting the 38+ known variations on the life like 40 foot boxcar.

>>1091826
Ithaqua is fucking dead?
shit

Any of the real budget hornby railroad tanks decent at slow running?

>>1092618
Depends in my experience, I've generally found 0-6-0 railroad stuff to run pretty well at most speeds, more stable at slow running. 0-4-0's are very temperamental though, there seems to be only 3 settings with them; stationary, snails pace & fast. What ya looking at buying?

>>1092619
Not sure. There was this somewhat caricaturish light railway in the Hornby mag layout showcase special that I could do with what I have.

>>1092784
I have the idea that I could do a Col Stephens Light Railway caricature with decent modelling.

Any suggestions for resources or stock are welcome.

>>1088407
A train club I once belonged to used to have the passenger cars of their show train (a train that ran a preset loop on automatic whenever a visitor pushed the button) permanently coupled. Not sure what brand but they were replicas of the real thing. It was their solution to an irritating issue of coming back the next day to find the diesels pushing some of the passenger cars. :-/

Btw, did you add some weight to the cars? We had to bring them up to NMRA weight standards. It helped dampen vibrations which were causing derailments/uncouplings. We also had a coupler height gauge and I often had to put thin little washers between the chasis and the trucks to bring them up to uniform height. Surprising how much variance there was in those mass-produced Athearn models from the 80's.

>>1088407
Ach! I meant to add that cutting those coupler extensions & going to a chasis mounted coupler should be a good move. Truck mounted coupler arms greatly exagerate the slightest movements of the truck, as you mentioned they go all overvthe place. Only negative part is you can lose out on the ability to run a tighter turning radius.

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Help me, /n/ you are my only hope. I just feel so uninspired, I have a decent collection of HO models and definitely the space to Create a layout and the time and the money. The best way to phrase it is I just don't know where to begin or I am not sure what I want.

Show me how you started or what got you really into what you wanted to do for your layout

I'll dump some pic of my Stuff so i can actually contribute

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>>1092906

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>>1092908
>>1092907
>>1092906

>>1092906
what do you like most in (model) railroding? Switching? Prototypical operation? Running long trains? Building structures or landscape? A specific location? Imagining what-ifs? Photography? History?

For general inspiration I'd say just look around. Read magazines; MRH is a free webzine, MR Planning and MR Great Model Railroads usually have some good stuff. Read forums and look around on the web, go to exhibitions, and try to visit some local operation groups.

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Does any of y'alls do G Scale?

>>1091820
This kind of happened to me, especially after visiting the Kyoto railway museum. I kind of want to get in to this, but have no idea where to start and I would need to move into a place with more space anyways.

>>1092906
This is very helpful. https://www.scarm.info/index.php

I'd start with drafting some layout ideas based on the space you have. There's also plenty of videos on youtube that go over scenery etc. What sorta thing you wana model?

Where would you recommend starting for someone who has been out of the hobby for years and no longer has access to the HO trains from their youth? Even if I was able to find them (packed away somewhere after a big move, maybe even thrown out or sold), I think N is better for my space situation, or even Z. Am I getting ripped off by buying sets? Should I just get used packs or individual locos and rolling stock online?

My interests are American railroading in the post steam era (so we're talking the 60s on), especially in the Northeast Corridor area and Chicagoland. Modeling transit (like trolleys, subways, and such) or JR might be fun too.

I've taken the plunge. Kato M1 loop, kato JR Kyushu seaside liner 2 car set, and kato JR Kyushu series 787.

>>1093090
If you can hack the funny behaviours i'd join a club to learn the ins-and-outs of everything from current models, technology (DCC), and layout building ideas. Once you got that go solo if you want.

Is there any North American Z-gauge models? The 2 z-scalers I ever met were modelling German lines.

I don't have the desire to super detail boxcars on a large scale and since i'm not going to pay $30/boxcar for high detailed ones, i'm ok with buying cheap $5 Athearn bluebox used models at shows. Maybe i'll upgrade but until then i'll have a fleet to play with.

>>1093018
Japan is truly a land of trains. After travelling across Japan my interest level towards trains has increased considerably. Do desuka den.

>>1095038

Can you just join without having any equipment of your own? I feel like that's not uncommon, but I'm not sure what the clubs are like. My guess is a lot of the members are older and have there own stuff to run on club layouts.

Micro-Trains makes a lot of North American N and Z-scale models, as does a company called American Z Lines. The prices are a little higher than I expected. I guess the price reduction as you go smaller doesn't hold at a certain point. Japanese Z scale stuff from Rokuhan seems more affordable.

>>1095171
Sure, I joined one as a junior member at age 16, there was only 4 of us that young in the club at the time (1985). I didn't own a single train or rolling stock for almost a year as there was plenty on the HO club layout to use. Some members would bring their own stuff down from time to time.

I didn't know what I wanted to model for the longest time so I watched others & asked questions & read books until I found something that interested me & no one else modelled.

The club I belonged to from 1985 - 1988 had an age spread from 30's up to late 70's with an avg median of around 40.. so not too bad. I don't mind older as many of them usually have a wealth of info that I mined for my own purposes.

I hung out every weekend & every wednesday night (usual club night) for about a month before I committed myself to the $24/yr membership. They pressured me to join the whole time. I wasn't sure what they were like at first but after a while I realized they were okay, tolerant, & supportive. I got what I needed out of the club & by age 20 my interests shifted to more *cough* important things that crop up at that point in Life (girls, parties, clubs etc) but I still checked out the annual shows, visited the club from time to time, & monthly visits to the hobby store.

Good to know about the N & Z scale manufacturers. I'm admittedly ignorant about all that. And from what i've seen with N-scale, it's come a long way from their clunky looks & terrible speed control in the 80s. I call it the "scenery scale" as it offers so much more of that than HO typically does.

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Is there a better brand than woodland scenics out there, or is it just the best? What do you use?

>>1096889
"Better" is subjective; Woodland Scenics certainly have a very large range, and their stuff is generally good quality, so they're certainly one of the best right now.

Anyone follow the model train convention going on right now? Pretty disappointing, Atlas' highly speculated on brand new N scale locomotive ended up being a lame GP39-2. Was hoping for an ALCO C636 or C425 or something more relevant to most people's modeling interests.

I wish someone would do an H20-44 in HO scale along the lines of quality of the LifeLike P1K C-Liners. I'd buy a pair.

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After a couple delays, my starter track finally arrived, and I was able to play around with my first train. Now I need to build an actual table to put this on instead of my kitchen table.

>>1097351
Congrats, looks good.

HO desk project put on hold because my kids took and hid the power unit and they are too young (2.5) to figure out where they hid it. Additionally might be moving so would have to figure out how to move the set. Currently living with and caretaking my alzheimers grandma and my wife cant take it anymore, will either get to buy house and turn full room upstairs into trains or need to somehow move it.