/gg/ Guitar and Bass general

first for Telecaster best guitar

Guthrie Govan is the best guitarist in the world and of all time prove me wrong.

>inb4 fourty year old "HENDRIX" "EMOTION AND FEEL" dads

>>72108131
The dude still wears his McDonalds name badge on his guitar strap occasionally. Pretty cool.

>>72108131
>arguing about BEST guitar players like a kid in a playground

he's your favorite, there is no best you prick

>>72108157
Except the fact that literally nobody else I can even think of matches his theory or technical ability, objectively

>>72108099
>moore
>not even Gary Moore
who is that fucking nobody

>>72108191
Uli Jon Roth

>>72108232
>Comparing a guitar player that sounds like he just shat on iron maiden leads to the man who made songs like Waves and Bad Asteroid

>>72108205
That's Efrim Menuck.

>>72108277
dude, uli doesn't just play rock, don't.

>>72108191
>still insisting there's a BEST guitarist like a 10 year old naming his favorite pokemon

end your worthless life

>>72108131
>>72108191
>>72108277
Robert Fripp

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>yngwie memesteen playing here next month
>tickets only $25

surprised at how low tickets are going for desu. guess ill go see him.

>>72108099
I put flatwounds on my P-bass and I get it now. This sounds like all the P-basses I hear on records, and with the musicman humbucker in the bridge I have more sound variations available.
Daddario chromes by the way, so they still sound fairly sharp/snappy and not just like a dead thump.

>>72108191
There are lots who could match him in technical ability and theory knowledge.

>>72108537
Don't even respond to that guy he comes in all the time to shitpost about govan. It's probably roman.

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How does /gg/ feel about my new side bitch? Planning on gutting the wiring and putting novak wide range humbuckers in it.

>>72108536
I love chromes. Is your MM ceramic or alnico? Do you run the coils series or parallel?

>>72108575
It looks pretty, is that a fake? Where'd you get it?

>>72108584
Alnico, the pickups are Delano PC5AL and MC5AL, I have a 3-way miniswitch for the humbucker, series, parallel or single coil.

>>72108625
No, serial number checks out. Rickenbacker 650a circa 1992. Got her off reverb. Previous owner did a "Kurt ballou" mod to it. Locking tuners, emg 81 bridge, emg H neck. I actually really love the neck pickup. Tons of gig wear, wouldn't be surprised if it was secretly Kurt's back up 650. Came with the original case and all the paper work.

>>72108131
John Fahey exists

>>72108131
lol

The world's best guitarist is almost certainly some classical guitarist you've never heard of. Guthrie-tier players are a dime a dozen.

>>72108191
Go to literally any Jazz jam and you'll find amateur guitarists who are better

Just tried jamming with a guy who only plays metalcore and doom. It didn't turn out so well.

>>72108984
are you more of a quake guy?

>>72108984
Some guy contacted me on a muso website, said he wanted to create experimental music, linked me his last band's youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb-_oO6F7tY

So yeah, that's a big fucking NO from me. What with me not being 12 years old any more.

>>72108984
>who only plays

Yeah you were fucked from the start.

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Where the FUCK do I find a replacement control cavity cover for this body? It's from an 80's BC Rich ASM guitar. Google isn't helping.

>>72108858
lol thats a huge stretch

>>72109528
You can cut one out pretty easy.

>>72109528
did u tried google?

>>72109528
>BC Rich

I wouldn't bother, buying a replacement shitty piece of plastic would cost more than the guitar is worth

Would a multi effects pedal work as an alternative for an amp as far as bedroom practice goes? Something like a vox tonelab or whatever that has a headphone input.

>>72109734
yes

>>72109734
Yes. In fact for headphone practice this is probably the best way. Get something with a looper.

>>72109891
Gotcha.

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>>72108575
have a listen to The Creamery wide range humbuckers, I've got one one order for my partscaster, 4 week waiting list while he builds them but they should be here sometime this week

>>72108575

Ricks are fucking garbage. Pure hipster shit with square fucking necks and unlevel frets.

>>72109734
Line 6 Firehawk is how I made it through apartment life last year. Still use it alongside my pedalboard for stuff.

>>72110463
I've got one in the neck of my tele. It's great.

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>>72110596
you're not that aussie guy who does all the demos of Creamery WRHB's on youtube are you?

I've got one of his Tele pickups too, that's a stunning pickup. The new partscaster is getting two Creamery Alt 64's with the WRHB, he's got to be the best boutique pickup maker around today.

>>72110593
>Pure hipster shit with square fucking necks and unlevel frets.

Is that intentional or just awful QC? I've heard nothing but good things about Rics

>>72110672
Nay that ain't me. I'm just a nobody session musician.

>>72110593
The frets are perfect and the neck profile is anything but square on a 650. Read a fuckin book ya dingus.

>>72108131
You aren't wrong, Govan is the best. Frederick Thorendal comes close, but Guthrie is a genius and I don't think anybody can match his knowledge

>>72109576
With what? A bandsaw and some plexiglass?

>>72111145
Just buy some blank pickguard material, loads of luthier supllies places sell it

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Do you think this ugly? I'm thinking about getting it (1000$ US)

>>72112124
Looks good. Maybe take the pickup covers out and spray paint them green to match the body and contrast with the white pickguard.

>>72112124
I've got an edgebound Tele and there's times when I wish it was rounded over a bit so it didn't dig into my forearm so much

I'd say try before you buy and if you notice it's wearing a groove in your forearm then walk away

>>72112124
The best part about buying an ugly guitar is reselling it for half of what you originally paid for it in three months.

>>72110796
>I've heard nothing but good things about Rics
The Emperor has no clothes.

I've had nothing but issues with Ricks. Tried several, even owned two. Tried to make them work. Gave up.

>>72110840
Get buttflustered hipster.

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>>72112124
another pic

>>72112196
I don't think it's actually edge bound, looks like it's just the top wood. My tele doesn't have a forarm groove and it's never bothered me.

>>72112265
I'm already getting it used. From what I found they're the same quality as Suhr guitars (same thin neck profile, but with ebony) but waaaay cheaper. I might just wait for another one with a nicer finish.

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>>71978486
Why didn't you like pi/gg/? I made him nice to everyone?

What is the best written metal song ever in history and why is it Orion?

>>72112459
He was ok, it's just that I felt the anti-capitalist message was a little too strong and on the nose roman. You have plenty of other good baits, don't let one bad one get you down friend

>>72112663
>best metal song
>memetallica

anyways the best metal song is currently Curse You All Men! by Emperor

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>>72112701
I didn't intend pi/gg/ to be anti-capitalist, I was going more for the futility of materialism.

>>72112779
Yeah, it just didn't work buddy. Try to pick up on the Govan posting. Also speaking like a dad who peaked in his high school blues rock band and going on and on about boutique fender hot rod amps is sure to rustle jimmies

How much does a new speaker improve tone? I want to replace my Blue Marvel with a Vintage 30

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>>72112938
>>71978393 ok, his name can be pi/gg/u from now on.

I don't know if pi/gg/u was supposed to be bait, I didn't think about it enough before I started posting him I guess. Maybe I'll do a thing with him where if someone needs help /gg/ can call on pi/gg/u and he will try to actually help. Also, maybe not because I'm fuckin' lazy.

So my guitar instructor doesn't really correct my form as much as he should (too late to change now, moving soon anyway) and I've come to realize my techniques are somewhere between "not 100% right" and "completely wrong, stop" - I've been playing about six years but got REALLY lazy (read: insomnia fucking up my life) over the last 3ish

My strumming is really bad, my picking is probably not right, my left hand doesn't even look close to correct when playing and so on, any good ways to fix this with online resources? Everything I read tends to contradict eachother, especially with holding a pick properly and where to place the left thumb on the neck

>>72113048
"Improve" is subjective but it changes it drastically. Vintage 30's have a significant mid spike which can be grating, but is easily fixed by rolling back the mids and highs a bit. It's also really good for clear high gain that cuts through but if you want a darker tone I wouldn't use it

>>72113083
pi/gg/u should offer helpful advice when summoned, but always in the form of riddles or half-truths

>>72113102
I'm trying to get a 70s Sabbath into an EVH sound.

>>72113084
The best thing you can do is practice while paying attention to your weak areas. Unless you're aiming for classical jazz master level, what's best is what sounds the best for you. Most instructional sites are just regurgitating their writers' personal preferences.

>>72113178
I'm more or less trying to spot my weak areas, what's wrong specifically and how to correct them

>>72113158
Yeah they are perfect for that kinda stuff. V30's are pretty much the go to speaker match for 5150's so it'll get you the Van Halen sound and Black Sabbath. pretty much every genre of metal sounds good on them. I play death metal with a 6505 through them and despite most people telling you to get a closed back for higher gain I actually prefer an open back cab with these to help soften the mid spike

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>>72113149
That's what sucks, I can't be here 24/7 like I used to. pi/gg/u could only appear a few times a day at best and he'd have to take a back set to my bait if I think there's a thirsty bitch itt chomping at the bit to fight.

>Want an E-bow
>They're a hunnit dollars
>No one will trade me one
>Don't want to spend that much money on a novelty but also don't want to keep using a screwdriver and cello bow like a barbarian

>>72113375
I bought one. I used it for a week and it's been sitting on my nightstand for the last 6 months untouched. Save your money.

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>>72108575
Shit is aesthetic as fuck. Need more pictures.

>>72113459
Can you get some cool sounds out of it if you have a /shugazi/ rig?

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>>72108575
>Rickenbacker
>EMG's

literally you

>>72113503
> /shugazi/ rig

Don't talk to me

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What was your second guitar /gg/? everybody has seen the shitty squier starter pack everyone gets, but what did you get after playing a few years and wising up to what makes a guitar good? pic related was my second after my sam's club starcaster starter kit

>>72113655
MiM P bass.

>>72113375
If you want to bow something buy a cello.

>>72113084
A lot of techniques with playing guitar, and instruments in general, come down to your biology and preferences. Holding a pick for instance is a very personal thing. What you need to remember when it comes to choosing the right styles for yourself is that you want your playing to be relaxed, tension free, and as economical as possible. More tension will only tire you quickly and prevent you from moving quickly. Your movements should only be as big as you need to hit the string, and no more. Same thing with your pinky, it should be as close to the strings as possible as much as you can manage. With your thumb you'll usually want it to be in the center of the neck at the apex of the curve, lined up between your index and middle finger. It can help to study other instrument techniques because these same ideas apply all of them.

>>72113375
They're worth it if you make experimental music. Bought one probably 10 years ago, never regretted it once.

>>72112124
not really my thing, but if you like it and it plays well, then don't let my opinion stop you

>>72112124
>>72112384

Looks like a cheesy 80s guitar you would find in a pawn shop.

>>72113655
Black MIM strat that I still use to this day.

One year of guitar ownership
still can't play a fucking barre chord
still can't keep a consistent practice schedule
still can't develop calluses

I just wanna fucking die, why did I ever think I could do this

>>72113939
just try to dedicate like 30 minutes a day for now to learn and practice, and I guarantee you'll start improving. don't get down on yourself, just try to stay committed!

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>>72113883
>it will never be the 80s again

>>72113939
I started getting callus after a week, what are you doing?

>Have an idea for a particular sound/style of music I want to make
>Record a demo on my own and recruit a few friends to help out
>They never want to practice and take the music in a completely different direction
>End up feeling super miserable because I don't like how we sound and we clearly have radically different aspirations for the project
>Too late to change anything since we have a show coming up
Next time should I even bother playing with people or should I just record it on my own?
It seems super depressing to just do it by myself and I really do want to swap ideas and make it a collaborative thing but obviously this time it didn't work and I can't really think of anyone else who would be interested
I have all the recording gear to just do it myself too

>>72114127
kick them out you doormat

>>72114127
bruv you posted in the last thread. what did i tell you?

>>72114127
what type of music you trying to make?

Quick /gg/, post a clyp of what you've been working on

>>72114352
Forgot link

https://clyp.it/scq0cj0i

>>72114192
>>72114237
Idk why I would bother kicking them out when all we have is a single demo and a name
They can have it for all I give a shit
Plus maybe it wouldn't be so bad jamming with them if I had something else I could actually take sort of seriously
Sorry if I'm being a pain in the ass I just don't know who else to talk to about this

>>72114278
Mostly just 80's Wipers/Mission of Burma-sounding post punk
Probably not the most original thing in the world but I figured I would work out the details later when I actually knew who I was playing with

>>72114521
it's not kicking them out if you leave though. unless they're your close friends I don't see how this situation is that hard to squeeze out of. you can be a total pussy and just text them if you have to

>>72114585
>unless they're your close friends
They are. That's the entire problem. I live right down the hall from one of them.
It pisses me off that they don't take me seriously but it seems pointless to burn bridges for no reason when I could just fuck off and let them do it themselves

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>>72114127
>>72114521
>>72114739

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daily reminder that you're literally all plebs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtjOe5e9VFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lR1tt24mo4

>>72114352
nice. are you an opeth fan? reminds me of them

>>72115006
at least i can walk lmao

>>72115063
ya but you're shit at guitar which is the whole point

>>72115151
jason is that you?

>>72115006
Altitudes was a life changing song for me. I have the word "Altitudes" tattooed on my arm.

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>>72115063
lmao
>tfw you can brush your own teeth and Jason Becker can't but you still don't because you're NEET

>>72114127
>>72114521
>I figured I would work out the details later when I actually knew who I was playing with
If this is your mindset you'll never be happy. Either write everything yourself to how you want it or work with the band mates and let them be creative how they want. Otherwise you will continue to be miserable since you'll never find the "perfect bandmates".

Working with friends is also unwise because they aren't connected to you by similar musical tastes or aspirations unlike other potential band members you may not know yet.

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>>72113655
Cherry burst Ibanez AR220. Played pretty good but the neck dive was really bad. Sold it later to get an LTD Eclipse instead.

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>>72113655
>one on the left
Still have it, still play it. £150 guitar that is a cut above most, eventually replaced the wilkinson tier hardware with some gotoh nippon folded 1000 version in black, some 59 voiced pups. I've kept it for years.

>>72115303
This is a hideous guitar. Like, pig disgusting.

What's a good $2-300 ass for someone whos been playing real guitar for a year?

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>>72113655
Actually it was basically the same as this.
My first was an LTD Viper piece of shit, the second was a PRS SE Singlecut.

It got the job done but it never stayed in tune.

>>72115166
the melody at the end is one of the best ever. the way he plays it at 5:06 to 5:10 with those bends is orgasmic

>>72115165
>>72115203
have some respect you pathetic fucking faggots

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>>72115483
>a good $2-300 ass
pic not related

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>>72115483

>>72115434
then it will blend right in when you're on stage. but i guess that implies you ever getting a gig....

if it were some grandpa brand like gretsch you'd probably get wet over it though

>>72115518
>>72115520
*bass
lol

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>>72115524
mad

>>72115555
>doesn't even deny not being able to get a gig

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>>72115492
>mfw /gg/ says I can't laugh at other peoples misfortunes

>>72115614
>anime poster
go ahead, we're all laughing at you

>>72115578
I got a gig with your mom last night

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>>72115578
I'm sorry, that reply didn't come with quads so I'm going to have to ignore it.

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>>72115642
there is literally nothing wrong with anime, especially K-on

Looking for a portable, cheap bass combo amp. Tubes preferred. Any suggestions?

I play cello through a guitar amp but I can't run my sub octave pedals without blowing my cabinet speaker. So I'm gonna install an AB switcher and switch amps when needed.

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>>72115642
cool, thanks!
>mfw Jason Becker wishes he could take a shit on a toilet by himself like I can but I shit in a Pringles® can instead because I don't want to walk all the way down the hall to the bathroom with my functional legs

which capo gives the best tone guys?

>>72115698
Also would a DI box work better for this purpose?

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>>72115734
Yui probably doesn't wipe her own shit and makes Ui clean it up, and of course they are both more than happy to partake in this

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How does Jason Becker play guitar if he's paralyzed? Oh wait he can't.

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>>72115773
>the bully ritsu
>in /bg/ (bully general)
please don't

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>>72115810
What's all black and sits at the top of a set of stairs?

Jason Becker after a house fire.

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>>72114352
Just busted out this jam

https://clyp.it/nvodubo3

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>tfw I'm technically better than jason becker at guitar now by default
lmao get it? because that faggot can't move his arms anymore

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>>72116135

I don't know where else to ask this.

What else should I listen to if I'm in love with Taken for a Fool by the Strokes?


Also, kinda high right now, got any general recs?

>>72116135
jason "SWEEP ARPEGGIO EVERYTHING" becker

>>72116549
Listen to US Maple

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmmnJ9ifFas

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>>72115698
>tubes
>portable
>cheap
>practical

>>72116599
I'm kind of a pleb but I don't really like that desu, too chaotic for my taste

>>72116662
Also, what type of a gear would I need to get tones like the ones in Gratisfaction?

>>72116662
Ever check out Ed Sheeran, his music is really easy on the ears.

>>72116723
Nigga, I have no problem with harsh vocals or heavily distorted and heavy guitar work, I just don't really like that. I prefer more structured music. Noting against your tastes.

>>72109564
>>72108858
Govan is literally BB King background guitarist tier
KEK

>>72108858
>>72108858


I went to a jazz jam tonight in [spoiler]Poughkeepsie, NY, at "The Derby"[/spoiler] and it was [spoiler]"JAM"-[/spoiler]packed with talent.

It was so amazing, yet also so depressing.

I asked four of them (most of them were probably twice my age, and i'm early/mid 20s) if they had any CDs, recordings, internet presence, anything at all...and nothing.

they're singing playing better than artists that sell out madison square garden, to a group of 10-20 people at a tiny tavern / bar.

most of them have been doing this for 20+ years, twice a week at least. some paying gigs, some not.

but.

it makes me so sad.

if you're playing 100 shows a year, I'm not saying you need to be "that guy" bringing tshirts and stickers and posters everywhere, with some cute girl at a merch table selling them while you play, but it would be really great to say "Here's my bandcamp/soundcloud/demo-disc, if you like my stuff, here's some more"

Even an amazing guitarist my age "oh, yeah, I keep meaning to do that..."

Like, these are people who (some of them anyway) are looking at sheet music they've never seen before, improvising, playing off of the other people there, and absolutely kicking ass. I can post some recordings if you want.

Some of them, it was their first night there, some of them had been there like 300 times.

But what I mean is, they were all very, very, very good. So good I only played one song at this "open mic jazz jam" kind of thing.

And the bottom line is, kids, no visibility, no exposure, no distribution, and you (and your music) will get you nowhere except a "hey man that was amazing/awesome" from some strangers at a bar.

And if that satisfies you, great, but we all know that the world shouldn't work that way.

(not gonna lie the vibes in there were awesome and I'd rather play to the 15 people there than a sold out MSG, but the point remains.)

>>72116878
I would love to hear some recordings. I used to do the same thing here in Chicago while I was in college, and the experience of playing with older, more experienced musicians really pushed me to improve my jazz playing and general improvising. I'm actually looking to put together a funk/jam group like the ones I used to play with. Kind of like The Roots meets Vulfpeck.

>>72115698
Buy a solid state amp if you're playing bass. I don't know of many bassists in any genre that use tubes. The condensed dynamics of a solid state amp are well-suited to where a bass should sit in the mix.

>>72116878
Jazz Jams are the Blooze Bar Bands of the jazz world, lots of good players but most of the people that go to these regularly have shit for creativity so they just settle in the old and comfortable for the rest of their lives. Nothing wrong with that but if you want a career in Jazz you're going to have to get used to composing and experimenting with contemporary styles of improvisation.

>>72117205
In my experience these jams tend to draw in younger guys in their 20s. All of the guys I used to jam with either have careers in jazz or make a living playing in instrumentally-driven bands and teaching.

It's funny because when older musicians do turn up at these gigs they tend to be middle-aged guys with a Les Paul and can't play over anything more complicated than a I-IV-V cadence.

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Im building another abortion like my other one in pic related. I'll have some pics up tommorow.

>>72117361
More $200 shitplanks? Count me in!

>>72117361
if it turns out you can't post any pics, that's fine, I'd be ok with that

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>>72117361
So am I. Burned the shit out of it while getting the paint off with a heat gun.

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Thoughts on this? Every thing I'm seeing says its amazing

>>72117568
I bet you're a Smashing Pumpkins fan aren't you?

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>>72108503
I'm looking at $30+2 hr drive if I'm even that interested. Still debating if it'd be worth for Memesteen

>>72108503
Yngwie's always kept his ticket prices pretty low, can't hate on the guy, he's a legend and a true original.

>>72117556
Dont even worry about it. The whole fun in making custom guitars out of a pile of junk spare parts is the carelessness that you can afford to get away with.

What makes a good folk song? Also, would you consider the song Rock Bottom Riser folk?

>>72117798
True. I also think it will look fine once I repaint it. I only hope it sounds good too.

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Didn't work on this today because I was playing Lizardbat.

Reposting for (you)s.

>>72117568


fuck off billy.

i bet i'm the only guy in the thread with a G&L

>>72117996
>lizardbat
???

>>72118009
you so cool

post your Indonesian plywood G&L Tribute then

>>72115698
Get an aby switch so you have the options to have both on at the same time

>>72108119
>tele
vomit

>>72118080
Yooka-Laylee

>>72112384
Why does every 80s style shred faggot play the same strat-looking guitar with a less rounded headstock? Is there any actual reason or is just pointless conformity

>durr it's like a strat but the headstock is more pointy therefore I can still have a somewhat metal aesthetic

It's a pompous guitar, it says >"I'm a serious guitar player interested in experimentation and technical utility, this is no casual guitar

I just accurately outlined your thinking process, didn't I? I hate you faggot

>>72119715
Why is there two bassists in this picture?

>>72119909
Why are there two drummers?
Why are they floating?
Why is only one of them playing?
Why are there also floating balloons?
Where is the rest of the drumkit?
Why don't the kit pieces match?
Why are all of their school uniforms different?

>>72108099
Man, homeless people are always asking me for change.

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Is this right:

a a# b c c# d d# e f f# g g#

# = sharp

>>72120547
That is a chromatic scale starting on A, yes. What about it? Also remember what B# and E# are.

>>72112124

i kinda like it, although i think a maple fretboard would look better

still, it's your money. if you want it, get it.

>>72108131
>Guthrie Govan
this guy looks a bit neurotic

>>72120762
It takes a special kind of autism to get that good at guitar.

>>72120762
He looks like a homeless heroin addict though. Like if he wasn't a musician, he'd be shoplifting to get money for smack.

>>72113655
My rhythm guitarist just got this as his second guitar, its nice seeing him get better.

He had a Yamaha Pacifica before.

>>72113655
I started off on a cheap Chinese piece of shit Les Paul copy. My second guitar was a 1985 E-series MIJ Squier Strat. And I gave it away to my brother a few years back, just before they started to rocket in price.

>>72108131
You ever heard of Yngwie Malmsteen?

Do you guys follow any amateur/non-commercial musicians on YouTube?
Something like these two:

https://www.youtube.com/user/200000028

https://www.youtube.com/user/ryansprinklemusic

Would love to find some more channels like these, everything else I found was trash

>>72120989
He's like the least versatile guitarist ever.

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I can play the track perfect when I practice, but as soon as I record it while listening to the backing tracks I fuck up like it's pancakes. . . .

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>tfw i know i'm fully capable of learning a song but i don't have any motivation to do it

>>72121192
also the most virtuous :^)

>>72121223

I've been playing 7-8 years now and I honestly never really tried to learn songs I didn't write outside of lessons. While I would say I have composition skills that I learned from writing, I'm just now realizing that I need to learn a couple songs in the same genre(s) I write in to help me both practice, but see how certain parts are written.

tldr; I get you don't want to learn full songs, but it will help in the long run if you learn a couple that capture the sound you like to play, and a couple that are polar opposite because that will help you understand it more

Am I dumb if I want to get one of those elastic capos?

I'm a poorfag and know nothing about guitars but it seems that in comparison these last forever, are gentler on your neck, and are significantly cheaper.

Link related http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/dunlop-elastic-heavy-single-capo

>>72115006
this is fucking garbage

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>tfw no rick

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Post an uglier guitar.

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>>72121570

>>72121591
>tele

vomit

I've been playing guitar for 3 years and I can play all the basic chords, some arpeggios, the pentatonic blues scale and Mixolydian, Dorian, Ionian modes etc..

My big problem is that I don't really understand when to use what, especially regarding the key.
How can I learn to keep key and combine these patterns? Please don't diss.

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>>72121570

Rate my new licks bros
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EE1C3plcaO

>>72121643
>fell for the ergonomic meme

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At risk of starting a load of shitposting, what do people think of the G-400? Seen one second hand for about 180 pounds and kinda want to play an SG

>>72121570
IKEA collab?

>>72113655
My first guitar was a Squier 51 that was actually my main guitar for 9 years or so. I bought an Epiphone LP Studio after having played for a year but I constantly had problems with the input jack and the guitar was eventually stolen anyway. I kept using the 51 because it was reliable, sounded good (I replaced the bridge pickup) and was easy to play. I bought a Jazzmaster a couple years ago but it didn't write have the "bite" for leads that the Squier did and just didn't play as smoothly. So when I decided to upgrade again, I realized that I was basically looking for a Strat, which is what I bought and I couldn't be happier with the decision.

>>72121703
The Ikea Memeskoldr.

>>72121194
Do you practice to a metronome anon?

>>72121615
find root note in the shapes and scales you're playing, thats the key
the scales are just patterns you move around the neck depending on your root note.

My memory is complete dogshit and it makes me pretty much useless as a musician.

Alright guys, I think I'm a pretty decent player but whenever we record with my band I sound like complete fucking trash, and I feel I'm the weak point of the band. I have been playing for years but never bothered with eq's and amp settings. I didn't even learn how to properly set my pedals, I used to put the wah right next to the amp, what's a good site to learn how to get a good tone?

>>72121758
You need more mids.

>>72121758
>>72121788
Probably less gain and/or reverb too.

>>72121788
So I just set the mids on 10 on the amp?

>>72121818
I don't know the exact values you'll need. Most guys when playing by themselves want as big a sound as possible. Lots of bass and treble, distortion and reverb. Once you're playing with a band it all turns into mud. Mids and lower gain normally make you sound more guitary and less fizzy.

What are your normal amp/effect settings? What kind of band are you in? How many guitarists are there? Keys?

>>72121726

No. . . . I guess I should

>>72121870
I'm the only guitar player in the band, no keyboards. Just bass/guitar/drums, normally when I play alone I just put the bass on 8, mids on 5 or 6 and treble on 9, gain on barely 3 since I have a shitty amp and gain is also master volume, at least on clean. This is the tone I've always wanted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXLavFXfcs

>>72121742
thanks, I learned the root note whith each pattern, I just have a question regarding this, please help me out here:
If I play A major, will A be my root note for the whole song? Or does the root note change with every chord that's played in a certain bar of the song?
For example if I play the a major blues, the root note of my pentatonic scale will shift, depending on where I am in the blues scheme, meaning that my whole scale shifts with the root note right? (I, IV, V is what I'm talking about, for example A, D, G)

>>72121298
Good advice to be honest.

>>72121925
You need like... no bass when you're playing with a guitarist. It'll just create mud and clashing harmonics and it'll be nasty. Especially for that kinda sound. It can kinda work if you're doubling the same part and want a blown out sludgey thing. Also a 9 on treble would be harsh and piercing but it depends on the amp and if your drummer goes spastic on his cymbals.

>>72122067
Alright thanks, I'll guess I'll lower both the bass and treble and up the mids

Why does /gg/ literally never discuss acoustic guitars

>>72121646
RATE MY LICKS YOU FUCKING PLEBS

>>72122112
Shit/10.

>>72122103
>grampas guitars
>wonderwall

>>72122112
boring desu

>>72122103
because /gg/ is shit

>>72115994
this is actually pretty cool

Rosewood is an acquired taste.

>>72122119
>>72122166
My vibrato is god-tier though, don't hate me because I'm better, work on your shortcomings and you might get there. Peace brothers, I'm out

>>72122221
I didn't actually listen to it, I just made an educated guess that it was shit.

Serious question, should I study music theory to help read and write my own music or study jazz guitar to help improve my guitar playing?

>>72117078
>>72116878
I got invited to this jam session in a hole in the wall vintage shop here in Chicagotbis Thursday. I talked Shop with the owner when I popped in yesterday and he said they do it every week and he admitted to being a hardass and shuts newcomers down with his playing but still wanted me to check it out, he also said there's an old jazz guy that's super friendly and is the only person he knows that can obliterate him in guitar playing. Should I get my ass whooped and see this for myself?

>>72122263
Listen to it and get your mind and ass blown

>barely play guitar for the last 3 years of 7 I've been playing
>go to practice
>don't know what to practice
>start with a C scale
>feels like I'm doing everything wrong (improper left hand position, picking etc.)
>stop practicing

>>72122210
Beer is an acquired taste, rosewood is like drinking warm, flat beer and going "nuh, it's just as good you snobs"
t. own 3 rosewood guitars and a rosewood bass

>>72121925
You don't need anywhere near that much treble.

Here's how your EQ fits in a band's live mix: you can think of your bandmates as each occupying their own unique "sonic sphere", or frequency, that is both a distinct musical texture and supportive of the other instruments.

Bass drum/toms/bass guitar: lower register, or bass frequencies
Guitar/vox: middle register/frequencies
Cymbals/lead guitar: higher register, treble frequencies

Unless you're Yngwie, you probably aren't playing leads ALL THE TIME, so your EQ as a guitarist should sit mostly in the middle. If you dial in too much bass, your chords and riffs will get drowned out by the bassist, and if you're too treble-y, you'll get lost in the cymbals.

Now, don't get me wrong, a scooped mids kind of sound has its place in the music world -
check out literally every metal band between 1983 to 1990 - but beyond that you're better off occupying that middle zone in your mix.

Here are my EQ settings. They work really well for the prog rock and jazz fusion stuff I play and for most rock in general. I based them off of those used by some of my favorite guitar players in the same genres:

Mids: 4.5
Bass: 6
Treble: 3.5

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYtXBUS_kwY

>>72122407
You said you were leaving. =\

>>72122638
I'm back already

>>72121677

i used to own one, was pretty comfortable to play with, and had good stock pups.

>>72122371
So to answer your first question (Chicago guy from earlier here): both? You can't study jazz guitar without knowing a healthy bit of theory or you'll run into a brick wall where your playing won't sound as "developed" as a jazz guitarist's should.

There's nothing super special about the technique involved in jazz guitar if you've already gotten comfortable with lead playing. Alternate picking, arpeggios, hammer-ons and pull-offs are all common devices in jazz guitar playing. I already had a fair amount of technique under my belt when I started getting into jazz, so the biggest hurdle I faced (and continue to struggle with) is how to sound like a JAZZ guitarist. So that's what brought me into the world of dom7add9 arpeggios, tritone substitutions, 2-5 cycles, melodic minor harmony, etc. If it's pure technique you're after, watch some Steve Vai or Guthrie Govan videos. Just keep in mind that their phrasing is informed by years of studying music theory.

As for the jam session, yes, you should absolutely go. One of the best motivators you'll ever experience as a musician is getting your ass kicked by someone much better than you. I wouldn't have developed as a musician without those late nights jamming with music school students in Lincoln Park's dive bars. It's a great opportunity to pick your fellow musicians' brains, or at least get a feel for more creative improvising. Which shop is it at, if you don't mind me asking?

What learn

I already know scales, modes, intervals, chords, harmony

is there something with touching the bridge when playing? I can't play really fast without doing so I naturally do this when playing some licks

quick question on gear, looking to spend my money wisely

>hear EQD White Light pairs nicely with their Monarch pedal (which I own)
>Should I pick that up or a DOD 250? the White is based on both the 250 and MXR's Distortion +
>it's for both guitar and bass
>playing at low volumes so an overdrive pedal makes me sound like I'm blasting a tube amp

>>72122907
>As for the jam session, yes, you should absolutely go. One of the best motivators you'll ever experience as a musician is getting your ass kicked by someone much better than you.
dayumm man that's the truth right there

>>72123232
people say its objectively and unarguably bad to rest some fingers while picking, for getting a spatial sense or whatever reason

but famous virtuosos like michael angelo batio and others do that, so...

practice till you can do it without touching, its better to be able to, anyway

>>72123209
learn how 2 play lmao nerd

>>72123275
forgot to mention that I meant with my palm, not the fingers

>>72123281
along with that basic theory knowledge i am already proficient on pop genres including rock/blues, both rhythm and lead playing

>>72122486
Also this idiot here, is there just some handholdy resource to tell me what to practice, how long to practice it, at what tempo etc?

>>72122813
Alright, might try and grab one if it plays nicely then, thank you

>>72123359
>what to practice
spider exercises, scales and songs and licks
>how long to pratice it
till you git gud at it
>at what tempo
start slow so you can play it perfectly clean then speed up gradually

>>72122907
I guess I'll take a theory fundamental course before I tackle Jazz, my lead playing is decent so I don't know how I'd fair but I'll study Steve and Gurthie and see what I pickup

The lead guitarist in my band is amazing since he's been doing daily 3 hour scale runs since he was 11 and he's been pushing me to learn discipline in my playing and getting humiliated by a couple old guys might be the final nail in the coffin.
It's at Revolution Guitar Company in Elmhurst, there's a lot of musicians there due to the local college

What is pavementcore?

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>>72108099
>mfw this edition

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>>72121570

>>72118009
Tribute Fallout reporting in, ur a fag

>alder body and mahogany body les pauls all sound the same
so, is tonewood a spook after all?

>>72123767
It's one of the biggest memes in the industry. Only Paul Reed Smith unironically believes in it

>>72121925
what amp are you running?

>>72123792
Explain this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxE8iDWD_w
indisputable proof

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>>72123819
>chapman logo seen in thumbnail
no thanks

>>72123819
greetings newfriend

>>72123767

Even in a hollow acoustic guitar, how can tone be impacted if the pickups are under the strings? Does the string vibrate differently due to the construction?

I thought the pickup would have to be in the airbox (like in a violin) for it to make any difference.

>>72123767
>alder body and mahogany body les pauls all sound the same
Sauce?

>>72123792
Funny thing is PRSs dont sound exactly like a gibson after al

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>>72121570

>>72123941
>Does the string vibrate differently due to the construction?
YES
FUCKING YES
THE STRING RESONATES WITH THE BODY, FRETBOARD AND ALL
HELL

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA SAY NEXT? STAINLESS FRETS DO NOT SOUND BRIGHTER?

TRY STRETCHING A STRING WITH YOUR HAND AND PRESSING WITH YOUR HAND IN THE MIDDLE. THEN PRESS IT WITH A PLIER. THATS HOW FRETS AND SADDLES AFFECT TONE

>>72123809
At home I have a shitty solid state Marshall, I have a Strat. Live I just use whatever amp is available

>>72123954
>Sauce?
me

>>72123819
It took them 6 minutes and 14 seconds to start the fucking test

>>72123941
The top and bracing play a pretty big role in how an acoustic sounds.

>>72123819
what each of these 2 guitars is made of

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>>72124001
>STAINLESS FRETS DO NOT SOUND BRIGHTER?

I've owned this Stratocaster since 1987. Had it refretted with stainless steel frets a few years back, it still sounds exactly the fucking same. And believe me, I would know the difference.

>>72124146
oh shit im not right

>>72123669
>8 strings
for what purpose

>>72123669
that racing stripe looks like my undies :]

guyz. tell me please about one of the oldest distortion units on planet, mxr dist+. why it sounds shitty into my fender twin style preamp?

>>72124146
>I've owned this Stratocaster since 1987.
What the fuck are you doing here, old man?

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>>72124318
>racing stripe
it's a neck, anon

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who /gibson/ here?

What's a good delay pedal that goes well with reverb?

>>72113655
Ibanez S420. Its extremely light, (probably the lightest guitar I have ever touched). Been playing that for almost 4 years, and now I am afraid to switch to anything heavier sense I am so used to jumping around on stage with pretty much a weightless guitar.

>>72124518
https://youtu.be/p40z5HczEC0

>>72124841
Any analog delay

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hey fellas a guy on my local CL is selling a squire vm jaguar bass w/ a gator hardshell case. I'm only interested in the case as I have a bass already; he's asking 100 dollars for it. Is that price worth it? What can you tell me about gator cases? This case will fit a fender p-bass right?

>Pic Related

>>72124326
>fender twin style preamp

tube or modelling amp?

>>72125071
Does it matter? You racist

>>72125108
>does it matter if I have an amp or a toy?

>>72125025
Case likely wont fit your p bass, but a pretty good deal. Buy it if you have the money.

>>72125250
i do have the money but if it wont fit my p bass then back to the hunt i go :^(

>>72125262
Is this bait or are you really that autistic?

>>72113655
Washburn X50

>>72124007
Yeah, I've never seen any one get away with a Marshall MG live save some local death metal. And they were just scraping by.

Your rhcp clip sounds more "Marshall" than "Fender." By that I mean it has a lot of mids and treble with little bass. With "Fender" cleans like you'd normally hear from rhcp, you'd get more of a 7b/4m/6t curve. This is for a pretty big sparkly clean. Pushing the mids on a lot of valve amps acts as a little extra gain, so the headroom shrinks.

For the most part, Fender/Marshall/Vox tone stacks are anemic. The amps kind of default to the tones I mentioned above and the stacks let you shift them a little. Since they're pretty much locked in, just be liberal with the eq and try to get the guitar to a good place in the mix like anon mentioned. If you can get the guitar heard well without fighting the bass, vocals, or cymbals then you've done something right.

>>72125294
im not baiting i really am this dumb, please explain to me.

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I really need to replace my strat with an S500.

>>72125461
You could sell it for an upcharge, or have a pretty cool spare base with a case for cheap. A new case shouldn't run more than 50 or 60 unless you order one and have to pay shipping.

On second look, the pocket the body sits in is not sculpted in a specific shape. Will probably fit unless your headstock is a but longer or whatever.

I desperately want to play in a psych band but my brain and fingers are too retarded for chords. Should I just start learning Bass and sucking up to charismatic prodigies?

>>72125676

Bingo.

>>72125676
Remember to play the 5th and 7th instead of the root note.

That's about all the information you need to play bass.

>>72125633
how much more could i possibly sell it for? the seller wants 100 for it and according to amazon they sell for 109. Not really much room for profit

>>72125834
9 dollars profit is great

>>72125632
you don't need more than 2 instruments t b h
never understood guitar collectors who claim to be musicians

>>72125877
>poorfag

>>72125877
it's kinda like how you can be a cook and a musician at the same time

>>72125860
ugh, i think ill hit him with a counter offer. i called gator cases and they said if you buy from them (or there dealer(s)), you can a warranty that if anything is wrong with it they'll fix it free of charge. because im buying it from a private party i dont have that warranty so maybe that'll make the seller let it go for a bit cheaper

>>72125632
you need to replace those tortoise shells is what you need to do

>>72125877
I agree, soon I'll only have the tele and an S500 or a Momose strat.

>>72126162
The tort on my strat is dead and lifeless but on my tele it's beautiful.

>>72126284
just giving you shit.
the strat is easily my fav of the three

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I build a pedalboard for 2 bucks. Hwo did I do ?

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>>72126892
The cabeling

>>72124350
>>72124146
Probably he is the 46 years old poster

>muh hold the neck like this, never put your thumb over the neck even though every non-classical pro does it all the time or at least occasionally
>muh you got long gangly fingers thats why you dont need to stretch
my middle finger is 7.9cm long, if you say it looks long its because ive stretched them and done exercises

what should i learn
i'm stuck
theory i know is scales, modes, intervals, harmony and chords, and decent fretboard knowledge
https://youtu.be/Jkn8EE1AbvI

>>72127101
why is this video posted in every thread?

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Just purchased these guitars.

How does the strat sound?

https://youtu.be/JiSknZxlpmM

>>72127009
>46

I'm 49 and I still have all my teeth

>>72127107
dont give attention, its a whore

>>72127108
sounds like vaporwave. Where's the chill beats?

>>72127108
I've never heard anyone pull that song off, good job whore

>>72127258
>regular fingerpicking song
Thats like playing Bach bouree

>>72127108
you look so fucking normie. go back to your guitar group on facebook

>>72125025
Is it in PJ pickup configuration? Hell if you buy it for the case I'll buy the bass off you if you're willing to ship

new thread

>>72127231

>>72127231

>>72127231

>>72124268
you can't be serious

>>72127381
Mad you aren't a sexy guitar beast?

>>72127108
Send nudes