/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

worst thread in at least 5 threads.

superstrat or les paul

alright posting again

alright fa/gg/ots.
i wanna learn swing guitar. mainly rhythm so don't sperg out about django or charlie or wes.
giggle only results in books people want to sell or jazz lessons in the style of djanog/charlie/wes etc.

>>70513898
Spend some time on bass, it'll help improve your sense of rhythm. Try playing along to blues and jazz tracks.

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Can you guys tell I've been listening to duster lately?

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>>70513898
Chet Atkins

>>70513264
To be fair I'm not sure why people think bass OR guitar are difficult.

anybody here adjust intonation themselves? if i were to do it on a strat, would i just need a screwdriver and a tuner pedal? i don't need to touch the allen wrench things, right?

>>70513980
I can tell you've been sucking a lot of dick lately.

>>70514021
please try jazz or funk bass and then tell me bass isn't difficult

>>70513830
I've heard of fanned frets, but this is ridiculous

>>70513980
cute but out of tune

>>70514029

yes you do

>>70514029
You adjust how close the sadles are to the fret board. You need a 1/10 cent tuner for that. I got a sledgehammer pro custom off of amazon for 35 that is 1/10th cent accurate don't get the stanard pro it has a rattle and uses more expensive batteries without nearly as long of battery life get the pro custom.

>>70514029
you do not use a screwdriver for anything. You're not touching the truss or undoing any bolts. Use an allen key to adjust the intonation at the twelfth fret to match the tuner.

>>70513979
in big band swing, bass has his own work for him, as well as the pianist. guitar is in it's own "cubicle" as well even though they are in the rhythm section together.
aside from that, lemme elaborate

i want to learn jazz, specifically swing music, around the 20's-40's. i want to learn about the chord progressions and common keys they would use.

>>70514019
i think of him more as a rockabilly player, but technically you're right

>>70514021
The flashy parts of guitar definitely require you to be awake.

>>70514080
That's what I thought maybe at first but I just don't think so.

Now I know why girls play bass so much.

>>70514029
Yeah.
Tune the string to pitch, Play the 12th fret and compare to the open string (using tuner and your ear as well). If the 12th fret is sharp, tighten the screw on the back of the bridge. This pulls the saddle away from the nut making the length of the string from the saddle to the 12th fret longer therefore making the string flatter than before. If its too sharp, tighten the screw to do the opposite. Just make sure if you have to make the 12th fret sharper, that the saddle actually moves forward and youre not just pulling the screw backwards out of the bridge. If it does this, just push the screw in with your finger.

>>70514058
True, I won't disagree with that. Especially if you play on an upright. Upright bass is much harder than guitar, but fretted bass guitars were explicitly designed so that they could be picked up quickly by guitarists.

>>70514100
Yeah, just tuned to DADAC#e without doing intonation afterwards cause its fine in standard

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>>70514148
what are you talking about? i would be using the screwdriver to adjust the scale length on each string. i was under the impression turning the screws in pic related with a screwdriver would either bring the saddle closer or further away from me, depending on which way i turned it

does n (upstroke) over > mean either up or down stroke picking?

>>70514176
thanks anon

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>>70514056
ur just jelly of my sick gear

>>70514242
I think > means its accented

> walk into rando guitar shop north of LA. Wannabe greaser owner organizing shit
> see signed guitar but not sure who it is so i ask
"By a band called (nobody band from 80s)"
"Not familiar"
"Theyre older than you are. Was a little thing called rock n roll"
And i walked out

This has been 90% of my interactions at music stores in LA

>>70514293
ah, makes sense. totally spaced that. cheers.

>>70514294
>being in california

theres your problem

>>70514021
Me neither, the basics of both are really simple and practice will do the rest.

>>70514058
imo that's kind of a strawman argument, you can take the most difficult part of any skill and say the same

>>70514156
"awake" isn't much of a task though.

>>70514058

>>70514156
You gotta stay woke

>>70514340
>imo that's kind of a strawman argument, you can take the most difficult part of any skill and say the same
it's as much of a strawman as "bass is so easy!!!" when you're just talking about play root notes on a punk tune. i mean even the bassline on "is this it" by the strokes is sort of hard to get perfectly right with rhythm and attack, etc.

but jazz bass is in a whole nother league

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>>70514370

>>70514337
Im from far north california. No one gives you their bullshit story up there at least. Generally better people too. Or at least a lot fewer

>>70514385
jazz anything is in a whole nother league then regular playing

>>70514385
Yeah but in comparaison to other instruments, bass and guitar have the bar set really low.

>>70514683
no they haven't, what the hell are you talking about. i play piano, drums, and trumpet and none of those is harder than playing guitar. do you even remember trying to play an F barre chord for the first time?

i mean if you're comparing it to instruments that just have a stupidly high learning curve (violin, oboe) then yeah it's easier to pick up, but at a high level of playing every instrument is difficult

>>70514385
>>70514669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooZF3IX1eNY

anything is difficult if you tell yourself it's difficult. you set a wall in front of yourself when you say shit like that

>>70513898
Freddie Green

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Does anybody else think this new cuckman looks cool?

>>70514154
>i want to learn about the chord progressions and common keys they would use.
Get a Fakebook and / or Realbook and learn how to play these chord qualities:

Minor 7
Major 7
Dominant 7
Half-Diminished
Diminished

and you'll be well on your way.

>>70514720
>at a high level of playing every instrument is difficult
this

>>70514726
oops, forgot to mention
i'm already checking out the freddie green website and i was hoping there were other sources

>>70514775
No

>>70514775
>pointy cutaway
vomit

>>70514720
I'm talking about the absolute bare minimum that's required to play what's considered a "normal" song for the instrument.

Of course you can take the highest level and say "hey that's difficult", but that's not what I'm talking about.

Also just for bragging, I never struggled with the F barre. No idea why.

>>70514775
It's the same shape as one of Dean's LP iirc. I think it looks ugly.

>>70514724
well, i never said i couldn't do it, but it's a fact that certain genres require more technical skill and, in improv especially, theory knowledge. And just because you admit something is difficult doesn't mean you are setting a wall in front of yourself, it just means you know that its not gonna be learnt in day or two.

what's the cheapest way of sending GK3 midi guitar signal to a DAW with VST, i.e. without buying a guitar synth.

>>70514854
>certain genres require more technical skill and, in improv especially, theory knowledge
i agree with you on the improv but there's a wide spectrum of skill/style in each and every genre that ranges from highly technical to mediocre.
take for example rhapsody of fire vs dragonforce. both bands have include techniques that not every band uses. however the guitarist for RoF is a technical player beyond the guitarist for dragonforce

>>70514940
Guitar's midi output into an interface's midi input into your computer

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i feel the GAS overtaking me, /gg/.
i can't stop thinking about buying a cheap electric guitar and slapping a full-body hentai decal on it.
or maybe i should get a hot-pink Hello Kitty strat and give it decent pickups.

>>70514993
wish it was as simple as that, GK3 does not output midi but some propietary signal than the guitar synth then convers to midi

>>70515061
I vote for the large sticker. Make sure it's lewd.

>>70515137
i live close to a vinyl decal shop for cars, but i wonder if i can have them make a custom Taimanin Asagi picture for the guitar.

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>>70515271
>Taimanin Asagi
I'm proud of your choice anon.
Who's it going to be ?
also explicit decals or bust

>>70514988
i guess the skill thing is something i would take back, as there of course are great guitarist doing all type of genres and there generally isn't a limit to how difficult something has to be in order to count as a certain genre.

Do young people today really think that good guitar playing = fast guitar playing

does no one care for feelings in music anymore?

>>70515470
>does no one care for feelings in music anymore?

im producing beats on my laptop old man. go to bed.

>>70515470
Do old people today really think that emotive guitar playing = slow guitar playing

does no one care for speed in music anymore?

>>70515357
it's a tough choice between Sakura and Asagi, but the latter has the most extreme ahegaos and most violent bukkakes, so i'll probably go with her.

>>70515271
>old conservative strong rednecks an autoshop making jokes about hanging niggers and yelling stuff at girls in the street...
>skinny weaboo boy weighting 15kg comes in an asks to print a picture of a japanese cartoon with cat ears shaped like a guitar with a comic speech bubble that says " i love you anon, you dont need anyone else but me"...

shit son, best case scenario your whole town is gonna bully you to death. but youll probably get raped in the process too

>>70515505
>>70515514
so that's a no...
weird, i learned what music was at an early age, in my teens.
but well it was different times i also lost my virginity back then
i know you kids prefer to wait till youre 35 or something, well maybe when you become a man youll understand what real music is

>>70515580
the people in these threads are so fucking stupid sometimes i dont know if youre trolling or not

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just picked one of these up
what play /gg/?

>>70515470
>young people today
The 80s were almost 40 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb5QaCfm7bg&feature=youtu.be&t=2m55s

>>70515516
Sakura is fucking boring mate, go for Asagi.
Or Murasaki, she's got a dick.

>>70515616

your guitar

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does it djent?

>>70515656
fuck no

>>70515616
AAAAAAH AAAAAAH AAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAH AAAAAH AAAAAAH

>>70515548
nah, i used to be /fit/ and can handle myself socially. i'll just treat it as a joke and holy shit who am i kidding, i'm gonna get raped.

>>70515617
i repeat, when you become a man youll know what real music is

youll see few people over the age of 30 at speed metal concerts, but it has excisted for more than 30 years... ohhh why is that?? mistery!!
could it be that.. mmmm its just a fucking phase people go trough?

>>70515548
kek

>>70515683
>>70515580
>>70515514
>>70515505
>>70515470

just do whatever you like, if you need to get into arguments about speed vs feeligns its because you dont know what you like so you have to channel those feelings into annoying other people

>>70515683
can you please try harder, you're breaking my immersion

>>70515616
post some clyps please

>>70515616
Stairway desu lad

>>70515848
any particular requests?

>>70515859
weird noises with every knob at 10

>>70514116
Are these guitars nice? I think they look good

>>70515883
sounds good, give me a few minutes

>>70515616
super jealous desu

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>>70515883
https://clyp.it/1sdvwmq3

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>>70516188

>>70516188
can't hear shit.

>>70516273
https://clyp.it/pi0woajj

so are squier affinity guitars any good? '

i want to get a tele just for some twangy vibes but dont care to spend a ton of mooney on it

>>70516188
>>70516390
what are you doing?

>>70516588
playing my mel9?

>>70516588
He fell for the "make your guitar sound like a down-syndrome midi instrument that people only pretend to like because of tradition" meme

>>70516614
not really

>its another episode of "poorfags hate people with disposable incomes"

>>70516667
excuse me

>>70516684
playing is a strong word

So I'm thinking of picking up an electric guitar, god knows my old hobbies are suddenly dead to me nowadays.

I'll probably have maybe £300 to spare, obviously not expecting something other than a "decent for its price", but I know fuck all about the different types available.

What sort do you guys reckon I should look at getting? I basically want something that, when I get good at it, I'll be able to make it make sounds like that final solo in Leif Erikson - like, mellow sounding stuff?

>>70516696
it genuinely sounds a lot better in person
phone mic is shit

>>70516678
>it's another "blues lawyers buy expensive equipment so they can play shittily on it once a week while actual gigging musicians have had the same gear for years" episode

>>70516696
also if I remember correctly(which I do)
>>70515883
gave me free will to do whatever the fuck I wanted
I'm not demoing it, I already know how it sounds

>>70516698
£300 for just the guitar or do you need an amp and everything else?

>>70516708
o-ok

>>70516698
squier classic vibe strat or tele, roland cube

>>70516738
boo hoo fucking communist. If i EARNED money i have a right to espend it on whatever i want...

sorry that youre a poorfag, if you really like some gear youll WORK to buy it, thats what real musicians do mind you
its a myth that musicians are dirty hippies, true ones are more disciplined than the gestapo

>>70516758

m8 i'm such a virgin when it comes to guitar's that i don't even know what an amp is needed for

>>70516784
no, REAL musicians just play their music, not work shitty office jobs to fund their fetish for authentic 1959 gibsons

>>70516480
any1?

>>70516827
>tfw anon bullies your favourite musicians who have shitty day jobs
be nice

>>70516839
no

Looking at my guns n roses songbook is overwhelming.

>>70516885
no nobody knows or no theyre no good?

>>70516738
Does that mean a blues player that works as a lawyer?

>>70516886
Looking at my AC/DC songbook, must be a misprint, it's all the same.

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Will post sanded pic in a bit

>>70516927
dyi guitar or some kind of repair?

>>70516827
There's no rules. You may work to fuel your musical efforts, other's musical efforts may be an effort to avoid labor altogether. It doesn't matter and there is no contradiction here. The argument you two are engaged in is what happens when two narrow minded intolerant bone heads collide.

>>70516999
>wah wahhhh arguments are bad and im afraid of conflict because i got a child traume from watching my parents fight
lrn2 real world little kid. in the real world theres correct and bad opinions, and the good guys must fight to have the good things established

>>70517048
>and the good guys must fight to have the good things established
whoa, damn.

Why are type o negative songbooks so expensive? Will they ever go back into print?

>>70517048
>the good guys must fight to have the good things established
oh yeah! what a nice way to prove youre an adult, you sure showed him

>>70517048
>the good guys must fight to have the good things established

Damn...

>>70516979
Refinish for fun

LoL, some fag is trying to improve the world by combating evil in a guitar thread on 4chin. Too much, its too much. Im loving the retardation! Carry on, Batman!

>>70514775
is he even trying anymore?

>>70514267
not him but
>poorfag SG, the literal worst guitar made by Gibson
>that ratty ass old copy amp
>fell for the vinyl meme

kek

>>70516698
Go to a local store and check their used section, find something you like, check reverb prices, if its reasonable buy it. B&ms will probably cost a little more, but 260 compared to 300 isnt bad. Its not uncommon for cheaper guitars to vary in quality(especially used depending on owner), so even though you might save money online you know first hand what youre getting.

There's not too much to electrics. Different pickups make the biggest difference in sound, after you find the sound you want its all about how it feels. Find out if you like single coils or humbuckers more, there are other options like p90s or soapbars but the first 2 will be the most common. I can tell you youll enjoy a guitar that sounds and plays nicely over one that looks good. The things youll notice first, as far as playability, are neck shape, bridge type and fret height. Neck shape will affect how comfortable your fretting hand is, bridge type will affect how comfortable your picking hand is, and fret size wont be as noticeable. Jumbos are easier to fret a note with but its easier to press too hard and make the note go sharp, medium are harder to fret but harder to go sharp with. Thats all slightly, most players can use both with no issues, only shredders or ancient blues players may notice a different(hyperbole). People will develop a preference, but overall its the same, as far as feel goes.

Youll start to notice things between manufacturers. Ibanez have thinner necks, ginson uses tune o matic bridges that some people cant stand. Just try a bunch out, even new ones. Youll find something.

Buy used though, 2 reasons. You have a lot more buying power, and if you pick the wrong guitar you can sell it for about the same as you bought it for.

>>70516698
>hobbies
foudn your problem right there
hobbie is a shitty word it sounds like something an old person does without interest while waiting to die, like kniting. If youre aiming for that, screwing girls or playing videogames its much better.

if you gonna play music do it from the heart

>>70517227
>if you gonna play music do it from the heart

DAMN
A
M
N

WHOA

>>70517227
>if you gonna play music do it from the heart

Damn...

>>70516738
Why does it bother you how much someone else plays? Are you that insecure that you have to compare yourself to other people to feel validated as a guitarist?

What's the difference between a "blooz lawyer" and a bedroom player?

>>70517297
>>What's the difference between a "blooz lawyer" and a bedroom player?
nothing, but neither of them are gigging or working musicians, they're just hobbyists

>>70517297

blooz lawyer has lots of money, is an old-ass white collar worker who buys $5000 Strats and Les Pauls to play nothing but E blues scale and Lynyrd Skynyrd licks.

Bedroom player probably doesn't have that much money, plays whatever he wants but not super good cause he's not a pro at all. Bon Iver covers or something probably idk.

>>70517327
here's a thought: most gigging and working musicians accomplish nothing of worth in their lives, live a meager existence, and then die without achieving any amount of fame to speak of

question:

am i think only person that doesn't understand the point of the middle switch position on a 2 humbucker guitar? in instead of combining both pickups, it seems to neuter the best qualities of both.

>>70517327
Most musicians are hobbyists. Even gigging musicians. Unless playing music is your job, what you do to put food on your table and a roof over your head, it is a hobby. Im sorry if you don't like that word, but a majority of musicians arent making liveable(if any) money from music.

>>70517394
you obviously understand the point, which is to get a mixture of both sounds, you just don't like the way it sounds

>>70514775
Chapman is a faggot. Doesn 't even play his own guitars.

>>70517394
>turn bridge pickup up all the way
>turn neck pickup up to 3 vol 0 tone
>add a little thiccness to your bright bridge
>????
>PROFIT

>>70517394
>it seems to neuter the best qualities of bot
only with both volumes and tones on 10

>neck vol 7 tone 5
>bridge vol 5 tone 10
this is noice

>>70517203

Thanks for the advice man, going to keep all that in mind

>>70517390
better than being a blooz lawyer

>>70517412
yeah most are. but regardless of whether you make any money from it, no blooz lawyer will create any music, they just collect gear and play shitty pentatonic riffs

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At least this argument gives me an excuse to post this

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>>70517476
Which drink goes with your amp lads? 68 Deluxe Reverb.

>>70517394
The first 3 replies have it right. Without invidual controls it's kinda useless. When i was in punk bands my favorite thing to do was switch to neck, turn volume up just enough to hear clean notes coming through, switch to middle, dime the bridge volume and both tones, switch to middle and play into a dirty amp. It made everything a lot less muddy.

It's easier to just throw a 3 position switch in instead of finding a 2 position. With that, most guitatists would notice something abnormal or feel cheated.

>>70517526
>most guitatists would notice something abnormal or feel cheated.

We can market it as a tone feature. You can convince these idiots to buy anything.

>>70517456
blooz lawyer is just a stereotype.. i'm 100% certain there's a lot of people who have high paying day jobs that make more intricate and complex music than you ever will

>>70517694
>i'm 100% certain there's a lot of people who have high paying day jobs that make more intricate and complex music than you ever will
[citation needed]

people who work high playing day jobs don't have the energy to compose music

>>70517694
Oh really? Name at least 86 of them.

>>70517725
>people who work high playing day jobs don't have the energy to compose music
im a lazy cunt who can only do one thing
everyones a lazy cunt who can only do one thing

nigga did you even college+work?

i honestly think /gg/ is the most deluded general i have ever been in

>>70517917
damn
like
whoa

>>70517725
Just one example, but the guy in Cloudkicker is a commercial airline pilot. He's probably more well known for being one of those intricate djent guys, but at least half of his material is droning post-rock and ambient stuff

Is a Epiphone Less Paul Custom or a PRS SE Custom a better guitar? How do either of them compare to the Gibson 1950S Tribute SG?

>>70517917
#whoa
#wow
#rude

>>70517725
Steve Morse is an alright player

>>70517917
every general seems that way you fucking mong

>>70517917
Really gets the old noggin running

>>70517917
deluded into what?

>>70517972
Anyone? I'm deciding between the Epiphone for $300 used, PRS for $400 used or the Gibson for $500 used.

>>70518066
Gibson or go home.

>>70517801
yeah i'm sure after you work an 80 hour week in your law office you want to come home and agonize over some music you wrote that you'll never play to anyone ever

>>70517560
>1 volume, no tone, no bulls**t. Only for those who are ready to RAWK

>>70517453
No doubt, any time. I bought a used $600 bass lightly used for $375 recently. I think it still had factory strings. I just told the dude ill be there with cash in 20 minutes. Also, a local store may offer lay away. Just talk it out with them,tell them how much you can put down what day and stick to it.

>>70518066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z71MNmi5Jh0

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>>70518014
at the moment from partially following the blues lawyer argument, it seems like you think you're all jobless geniuses who make excellent music

but from what i've usually read on here you're all metal kids who love pimped up guitars and have a hard on for pedals

i've been regularly visiting for two weeks now and that's the impression you've all given me

>>70518148
>jobless genius who makes excellent music

Finally someone agrees with me.

>>70518077
>>70518140
Okay, so I've definitely ruled out the Epiphone. The PRS does have a vibrato bar while the Gibson doesn't which is temping for playing Pink Floyd. I'm very strongly leaning towards the Gibson.

>>70518148
>but from what i've usually read on here you're all metal kids who love pimped up guitars and have a hard on for pedals
the way to seetle this is a shredding contest

i think we should have ourselves one someday.
like, each one gets 1 minute to shred, each one uploads once and then we do a poll to see who won

>>70518140
>this guitar i never use is mint
damn, his channel is depressing.

>>70518210
it's /gg/ in the future

>>70518148
>jobless geniuses who make excellent music
it's like you really know me

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I love the new mustang 90

>>70518148
>at the moment from partially following the blues lawyer argument, it seems like you think you're all jobless geniuses who make excellent music
seems like you didn't follow the argument at all then. i never said anything about my own playing, i just said name me an excellent album made by somebody who is a high-payed professional in another field (doctor, lawyer, etc).

would this be a good les paul substitute?

>tfw sold all my guitar shit a few years ago cuz needed money
>want to play again

link related

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone/Les-Paul-Standard-Plain-Top-Electric-Guitar.gc

>>70518066
>>70518077
>>70518140
They also have a 1960s gibson tribute for $600. Would that one be better?

>>70518205
>the way to seetle this is a shredding contest
We tried that once not too long ago. Two, maybe three people posted

>>70518311
not many peopel can shred, it takes discipline and constenance.

most people play dad rock cause its easy

>>70518290
Just go play them and see what you like.

>>70515771
google +1'd

>>70518258
>new

They've been making Mustang 90s for years, right?

>>70518375
b-but p90s

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>>70518375
this particular model with hard tail just came out a few months ago

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Got this badboy coming on tuesday.

Any UK lads want to buy an RG550 to cover the costs?

>>70518476
i actually played this at the local shop today, want it real bad. so fucking thin and light

>>70518418
have you played one?

>>70518400
>>70518418
I call bullshit. I swear these have been a thing since 2012/2013 at least. In fact, I've seen a Modern Player Mustang from 2014, albeit with Mustang switches instead of a 3-way toggle.

>>70518497
yeah at guitar center I played a red one
its amazing

super light weighs about 7 lbs, back of the neck isnt covered with that shitty heavy laquer clear so its satin smooth

pickups sound great

>>70518526
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/electric-guitars/mustang/mustang-90/product-0144040.html

this one just came out in late summer '16 so yeah you're wrong dude

>>70518290
60s tribute has a skinnier neck. Just a matter of taste really, they're both about the same otherwise

Planning on leaving my bass overnight at my school for when my jazz band class starts next week

I'm worried about it being messed with for some reason, wat do?

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>>70518140
mfw i got a g400 and im actually happy with it

>>70518544
I would never do that, so many things could go wrong. Thieves, people fucking around with your shit etc..

>>70518541
i've wanted a mustang for a while. i actually played the kurt cobain mustang a while ago. not that i want it because it's a "cobain model" but it played and sounded great. but i chickened out and now i can't find them anywhere. maybe i'll check out the mustang 90.

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>>70518541
>inb4 3-way toggle is significant

>>70518637
did this guy just post a screencap of a link? are we supposed to type it in?

>>70518687
just do it you lazy punk!

>tfw not good at guitar

>>70518637
modern player mustang had the stupid mustang tremolo though
the new mustang90 has a string through hardtail

>>70518751
iktf, at least i have money to cop sick memes

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>>70518687
Forum links only show 2013 according to my 5 seconds on Google. my b

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/fender-modern-player-mustang-ngd.1316869/

tele or strat /gg/?

>>70519195
how about you choose for yourself you limpwristed faggot

>>70518339
Only because people are intimidated by it and don't know how to practice. It takes a couple months to learn how to shred if you put your mind to it, tops.

>>70519195
>tele
NEVER EVER
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V
E
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E
V
E
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>>70519195
Depends on what you're playing but I'm partial to teles, they have the best clean tone of any solid body electric imo. Strats, of course, will give you more flexibility.

Best all around: thinline tele with a humbucker at the neck and a single coil in the bridge.

>>70519253
what do you suggest?

also, what do you call shredding, only playing alternate picking fast? or also ligato, sweep etc. palm muting thrash styles?

you cant accomplish all that in a few months, its years

Do I sell my bass if I don't play it anymore or keep it in the hopes that one day I come back to it?

>>70518544
Don't, besides how are you gonna practice without it senpai?

>>70519769
do you need the money?
if no, keep it and wait
if yes, sell it and hope you don't get the urge to play it

>>70519806
the money could be used for things that are more immediate and that I use more, I havent picked it up in 6 months. I just got curious and checked how much I could get for it and was kinda suprised.

I've been playing the guitar for about six months but in the past couple of weeks I've decided to focus more on it to improve (normally I'd just dick around and learn songs but I'm trying to learn chords and stuff now).

Anyway my point is that I have a ton of trouble playing F. I know it gives a lot of people trouble to begin with but when I barre I just can't get the first two strings to sound.

It's really aggravating, anyone have tips? I also don't know if I'm using the optimal finger position for the barre.

>>70519838
If you can get good money for it then I'd sell it

>>70519838
What kind of bass is it?

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>too stoopid to understand scales
>decide to just play random notes
>no matter what combo of notes I choose they sound akin to rubbing cottonballs together
Why is this shit so fucking hard?

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>>70520025
its super easy
you only need to memorize these shapes

>>70517725
>>70517727
you guys really are delusional. i hope you keep chasing your dreams though :') remember, getting a job means you failed

>>70520004
Rickenbacker 4003

>>70514775
no

>>70520096
why do the ric owners here always end up selling them?

>>70520096
Where are you and how much would you sell it for senpai?

>>70514775
looks like literally every esp ltd guitar

>>70515859
sax setting classic rock solo

>>70520121
Not in america or yurop

>>70520117
nothing to do with the guitar, other than I always feel like im walking on eggshells with it cause of the value. It's been great, I just don't play bass anymore

>>70520059
Thanks but I dont understand how to interpret that?

>>70519280
THIS

NIGGA

KNOWS

>>70520181
each figure represents 5 frets of guitar (looking down on the neck from your pov)
just hit those notes and all the sudden you will be making music
(position1 would be 5th fret in a minor btw)

>>70516188
>>70516390

PLAY SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE

>>70520181
>>70520232
Also DON'T just play the scale up and down in the same position or you'll sound like garbage
try sliding two positions up or adding notes from other positions to make it sound better.
Guess what now you're a musician.

>>70520288
>DON'T just play the scale up and down in the same position or you'll sound like garbage

he will have to play the scales up and down for a long time though for practice, but after you are familiar with them i agree, running up and down box patterns sounds really lame

>>70520232
>>70520288
>>70520328
Do I play the white/black notes or both? Also I do i have to play them in a specific order?

>>70520356
play both
the black notes are root notes of the key youre in

>>70520382
>root notes
So these sort of dictate the sound of what I should be going after right? Sorry for the dumb questions, guess I should have paid more attention to elementary school music class

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Whats this about ernie ball non breaking non rusting strings?

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>>70520356
this is what a minor pentatonic looks like on the neck, every 12 frets the same thing repeats

you can probably make out the positions from >>70520059
within this whole scale

>do i have to play them in a specific order?
as long as you stay within the scales, all notes will be in key, and playing them out of order is called music

once you're familiar with 5 note pentatonic you can add extra notes to get blues and natural/harmonic scales

>>70520496
root note is the key signature so A minor the root would be A, G major the root would be G

>>70520524
You tell me.

>>70520524
if you're not using DR you're using junk

>>70520534
So basically match up the black dots and they should sound good together? (Kinda seems to be working for me) Where do the roots come in and what about open notes?

>Ernie Ball has introduced their new Paradigm line of strings blah blah blah
>if your Paradigm strings break or rust within 90 days of purchase, we will replace them free of charge.

lmao these fools. who even keeps the same set of strings on for 3 months?

>>70520651
all the black dots are the same exact note, just at different octaves
they are your friend, they will help you know where to start a scale and get your positioning right
if you dont understand what keys are you really do need to brush up on stuff even more basic

to be a great guitar player all you need is:

-to memorize scale shapes
-be able to transpose them into any key
-memorize names of notes on two lowest strings
-and have an understanding of the circle of 5ths and relative keys

the rest is up to you and your creativity
the beatles had hit songs with less musical knowledge than what Ive written above

>>70520679
ive had the same stings on my acoustic bass since i got it back in 2010 or 11. ive had strings on one of my electric guitars for at least 6 months. both stay in tune somehow.

In my guns in rosesbook there is a 26th fret in the tabs on one of the songs and under that part of the tabs it says it's theoretical. How am I supposed to play that?

>>70520746
oops
i meant in this pic >>70520059
all black dots are the roots

and in this one>>70520534
all red dots are the same roots just red

>>70520859
bend up on a 24th fret, get an octave switcher, or play it lower

>>70520679
How do they compare to the m-steel strings?

>>70520859
You play it theoretically of course

>>70520895
What if I only have 22 frets? Are there any higher than standard tunings for guitar?

>>70520896
i dont know lad, theyre out in march apparently.

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>>70520746
>>70520869
OK I think I see what you're saying. Thanks for all the help of course!

>>70520919
theres only 12 notes in music, the one you are trying to hit is all around you, just hit a lower octave

>>70520960
But it won't sound the same. It's on the 1st string. Can I bend up 2 whole steps or am I going to have to get an octave switcher?

>>70521004
Why the fuck are you going to get an octave pedal for literally one note?

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>tfw highly successful lawyer and successful solo artist, but can't post proof to blow out the losers hating on muh blooze lawyers because that'd blow my anonymity and my clients would know i play post-melodic metalgaze fusion

>>70521018
I just want to play guns n roses.

>>70520859
>>70521004
>>70521018
>>70520960
anonymous blooze laywer here: none of you are right. referring to a harmonic

>their guitars dont have 26 frets

>>70520161
Australia??

>>70521063
do you think slash plays notes on a 26th fret

les paul only has 22 frets
and stop fucking with tabs, just play be ear

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>>70521111
>>70521097
>>70521063
listen to me, it's a harmonic

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>>70521097
>their guitars dont have 36 frets

>>70521111
When I looked it up and you can bend up two steps so Im just going to do that.

>>70521161
>bending up two steps in standard tuning

lol ok thor

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>>70521161
YOU CAN ONLY BEND UP TWO HALF STEPS, YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK YOUR STRING. IT'S A HARMONIC

>>70521142
Elaborate anon. How do I do this.

>they cant bend up three steps in standard

>>70521175
pussy

>>70521108
NZ

>>70521191
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_harmonics

you can either do them by touching a nodal point with your left hand, or doing a pinch harmonic

they're also a good way to make sure your guitar's set up right with a tune-o-matic, you do a harmonic at the 12th fret and it should sound very close to how it sounds played normally at the 12th. the closer it sounds, the better

>>70521184
you can bend 3 semitones lad

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>playing anything but standard

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>>70521324
Use new standard anon.

>>70521324
i play C standard, am i fedora?

>>70521262
What is a nodal point?

>>70521395
the place between a butthole and a testicles

>>70521184
>>70521175
I will buy those new Unbreakable Ernie Ball strings and bend up 10 fucking steps you fucking wimps.

>>70521395
The noodle point is the point in time when the water is boiling and ready for the noodles

>>70521395
read these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_harmonics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_harmonic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch_harmonic

>>70521407
My guitar has neither of those.

>>70521414
You are coming no where near my guitar.

>>70521364
'no'
>>70521375
Sorry to be the bringer of bad news anon, but you are beyond saving

>>70521422
How do I add a butthole and testicles to my guitar for nodal pointing?

>>70521324
>not using DADGAD or Open C
>not having multiple guitars in multiple tunings

This cunt right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzl6pk0WiNk

I think he's finally broken

got some ernie ball not even slinky strings today for C standard. these things are amazing, so slick

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if they actually replace your strings when they rust then it looks ill never have to pay for a set again

>>70521510
DADGAD is literally the most fedora tuning of all time

>>70521528
I like the dude, what's with all the kpop in his videos? What's happened?

>>70521564
Only during the first 3 months.

Hows this riff sound?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1vvpLAHKGWH

>>70521528
Shit he is pissed, what did you do anon?

>>70521324
open g and open e are ok

dropped tunings are fedoracore

>>70521593
u s e

a m p


I'll never understand you silent pluckers. Are you all embarrassed or something? You don't have to blast the volume, but at least amplify that shit

>>70521593
Its actually really fucking good

>>70521647

I did nothing, this vid just came up in my feed.

If I'd known, I'd have been working his channel with my sock YT account for ages, though

>>70521593
That's almost an exact replica of an RHCP riff. Can't recall the song name, but I wanna say something from Californication or By The Way

What's your approach for writing music /gg/?

>>70521819
>engage fuzz
>doooooom
that's it

>>70521754
People sleeping

>>70521763
thanks

>>70521810
the melody came into my head so that is possible that I thought of something but added a slight variation

>>70521799
>tons of shitty jump cut using faggots to bully
>bully will
for what purpose?

>>70521819
>take drugs
>play music with friend
:)

>>70521819
Get super stoned

>>70521896
>friends
out

>>70521907
Lucky for you
>get stoned
>have the agility of a golem

>>70521920
>>>/r9k/
I'm a neet loser and even I have a friend that I'm close with
faggor

>>70521819
1. noodle around improvising shit, stumble upon a cool idea
2. decide if it sounds like an intro, verse, bridge, chorus, outro, or outlier riff
3. start writing riffs and progressions in a similar vibe around it
4. add harmonies and leads
5. tell the rhythm guitarist what to play
6. argue with the bassist about his part that he's greatly over-embellishing to the song's detriment
7. eventually browbeat him back into place
8. let the drummer and vocalist do their thing
9. ????
10. profit

>>70521977
your friends on /r9k/ don't count m8

E---------------------------------------------|
B--------------------------------------------|
G--0--0--0----3--3--3------------------------------|
D----2--2--2----0--0--0---------------------------|
A------------------------------------------|
E--------------------------------------------|
how do I improve on this

>>70522019
quit projecting your lack of friends on me
my closest friend is a drummer and we jam when we have the time.
don't even know why I'm arguing with you.

>>70522050
>>>/out/
normie

>>70522037
>E--------------------------------------5----5---|
>B--------------------------------------6----6--|
>G--0--0--0----3--3--3------------------------------|
>D----2--2--2----0--0--0---------------------------|
>A------------------------------------------|
>E--------------------------------------------|

>>70522063
epic

E---------------------------------------------|
B--------------------------------------------|
G-----2--2--2----0--0--0--------------------------|
D---0--0--0----3--3--3------------------------------|
A------------------------------------------|
E--------------------------------------------|
Sorry i meant this

>>70522110
Play more than two shitty two note chords you fucking newfag nigger

>>70521819
advancing guitarist says to record yourself experimenting with riff ideas for a couple minutes every day without listening to any of your old stuff, and then to listen to all the records at the end of the month or whatever and pick out the good ones and expand upon them and throw the rest out. steve vai in an interview said something similar. so i've started doing that

>>70521987
Man I can relate, friend's a bassist and always oveplays and tries to add all these slaps and weird shit into some songs where the style just doesn't fit, good thing we usually play funky stuff so he can do his thing

>>70522156
>chords
Help or cut off your internet access

>>70522162
That book is really good desu, that's one to actually buy.

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new thread

>>70522199

>>70521528
what did he do?

>>70522037
Not sure what rhythm you're going for there, so I'll just right the dyads how I see them. That tritone shit in the second one is pretty weird, but I feel like this would resolve it well:

|-------------------
|-------------------
|-0---3---2-------
|-2---0---3---2---
|---------------3---
|-------------------

>>70522110
Goddammit

>>70521324
>>70521690
>all guitars and instruments are tuned the same
>so you should do the exact same thing that everyone else does
what's it like being a retarded, uncreative person?

>>70521529
>dat twangy bass sound on the low e and a
too bad it only lasts a month