/GG/u Guitaru andu Bassu Generalu

I thought up a really good first post but then I forgot it.

>>70497047
that's a shame because I htought up a really immature way to disagree with your post

daily reminder stratocasters are the basic bitch of the guitar world

>>70497067
Wow I just thought of the wittiest comeback!

>>70497080
This isn't the Gibson buyers remorse forum.

You're looking for http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/

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>Irresponsible Spending Edition

I'm in the right place

>>70496439
as far as electrics go the biggest sound change comes from electronics, then nut material, then pick/picking position, then maybe neck joint but probably not

rest means shit all

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>>70496992
>/GG/u Guitaru andu Bassu Generalu
>guitar friends.jpg
I can live with this.

>already own an SG Custom and an Am deluxe strat
>started eyeing up a G&L I seen on reverb

It's almost like I enjoy being poor

>>70497129
Please marry me and have my children

>>70497129
and the saddles and to a lesser extent the bridge block

if those are made of shitty pressed zinc then it won't sound hald as good as brass saddles and a heavy stainless steel trem block

>>70497167
ok cutie
>>70497115
>7 fucking strats

yeah you are

there's no way they aren't a waste of money

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>>70497129
>as far as electrics go the biggest sound change comes from electronics, then nut material, then pick/picking position, then maybe neck joint
>>70497200
>and the saddles and to a lesser extent the bridge block

Friendly reminder: the kiddies who post in /gg/ threads have nearly ***zero*** experience concerning guitar. Playing, repair, new player recommendations, etc. The average age in these threads is around early 20s: green as shit grass.

If you have an actual question this is probably one of the most uninformed & least knowledgeable places you could ever expect a proper answer to come from.

Be weary of any advice given here as it's amateur & perfunctory at best.

Have a nice day.

Anyone used the TC Sentry?

>>70497224
I started playing in 1974. Maybe I'm in the wrong place.

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>>70497277
>I started playing in 1974
>and I still don't know shit
nah you'll fit right in

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>>70497213
>a waste of money
You can never have enough

>>70497360
The ultimate dentist's guitar. Hang it on a wall and never play it.

See also: PRS, Gibson, most the FCS shit.

>>70497200
yeah, i left out bridge because outside of fringe cases the actual tone is very samey between metals. i never even noticed a huge difference when i moved to graphtech saddles personally
>>70497224
cute copypasta that only gets posted when whatever retarded notions you have are challenged
>>70497277
he's just a fucking mong who never posts anything worthwhile

>>70497224
Where is a good place for advice?

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>>70497413
>Hang it on a wall and never play it

>>70497440
that guy is probably the most embarrassing poster here

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>>70497430
anywhere but here

>>70497488
Such as?

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>>70497422
>he's just a fucking mong who never posts anything worthwhile
Damn, this actually made me smile.

I needed that.

>>70497515
try to ignore pete anon

>>70497515
https://www.google.com/

>>70497582
I'm just going to ignore you pete.

>>70497629
k

Why can't I be satisfied with just a single guitar? I'm not even good.

>>70497749
faggotism

>>70497749
Gear acquisition syndrome is a very real and serious illness. Please see your family doctor.

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>>70497749
jfc how rurnt is your bunghole that a single guitar isn't enough to satisfy you

i love advancing guitarist so much. this book is like a magical tome that keeps secrets from you until you're worthy (aka until you know enough how to interpret what it's saying). i remember googling for what to do for mode vamps, when i'm rereading it now and it literally has exact mode vamps scored for you to copy if you want

Hey weebs, what do you think of Japanese guitar makers Selder and Juno? There's a nip surplus shop 15 minutes away and I can get them for under 100 bucks.

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>weeaboo /gg/
>distinct lack of best guitarfu

baka

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>>70498163

>>70498132
all well-known MIJ guitars are either going up in price or gone, so being able to buy one for less than 100 bucks new? sounds bad

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>>70498163

>>70498191
Not new, surplus.
I also live in an area where music is dead so that's probably why no one cares.
Should I get them?

>>70498243
of course

>>70497115
Strats are just so easily available. I've got 3 myself (and 2 in the stages of being assembled) and I never even sought out to own most of them.

Teles are better anyways

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>>70498661

What are some other good music theory sites and lessons (youtube videos/guitar based preferred, but I do like the piano type stuff since it makes me think) other than the ones in the OP. The one in the OP also doesn't really talk about things like dissonance which is what I am really looking into studying.

>>70498741
Do u know about the just intonation? And the simple whole-number ratios? That's the secret of consonance and dissonance.

>>70497114
Blues lawyer central and cork sniffers galore

>>70498075
So you're just a moron who can't read?

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>>70498842
meh could be worse
could be full of poorfags desperately trying to legitimize their chink shitplanks because they can't afford anything else

Been playing bass for ~3 months. Practicing scales, simple 12 bar blues, easy songs, etc. Have some questions:

1. Will using hand cream fuck my calluses? I work in a metal shop everyday and have been using hand cream/really abrasive soap everyday to clean off my hands.

2. About how long should I/how much hand pain should I expect? I'm trying to use proper fret hand technique ( thumb on back of neck, directly across from second finger) and I seem to still be getting really bad hand pain.

3. Should I try to be learning theory/reading music while I'm still a beginner or just stick to tab and practicing basics and then go back and do theory?

4. How do I tell if the action rod in my bass is fucked? The string heights came way high from the factory and even after adjusting them at the saddle something doesn't feel right.

>>70499040
>thumb on back of neck, directly across from second finger

nobody actually does this

>>70499040
if you are doing 12 bar blues songs you are learning theory, practically. if you can play along to any song that's using the 1-4-5 chords and recognize by ear when each of those chord is occurring, you're doing pretty good.

as far as pain, it's a matter of feeling it out. too much and you could injure yourself, and doing it the "right way" is equally a matter of learning what works for you as of following some guide on hand position or whatever. there's a difference between pain and soreness, they say in exercise. pain means stop or you're doing something wrong, soreness is normal.

the hand creme shouldn't be a problem. and calluses will always come and go. if you stop for about a week they'll go away, then if you play for a week they'll build up again. but take care of your hands.

>>70499125
People who aren't shit do it

>>70499040
>Cream will just make your guitar gross but i'd do it.

>I never had hand pain...ever. You may want to get a bass with a different neck profile that is more suited to your hand. What kind of bass you have?

>If you want to be a dumb bitch dont worry about theory. However, its not necessary at all to know the notes. Just really useful for advanced playing.

>there are videos on youtube for checking

>>70499200
He's already getting pain in his hand...

>>70499243
>What kind of bass you have?

Ibanez Soundgear 250.

>>70499245
That could be from a lot of things. Tensing up too much, posture not being as correct as he thinks it is, or just beginner discomfort from using hand muscles never exercised before. It doesn't mean purposely using improper technique will make it better

>>70498966
I'll give you that

Fuck now I really want to rewatch K-ON.

Anyone have experience with the Boss Katana?

>>70499040
1. no
2. Your action could be too high. fretting hard shouldnt hurt too bad. you should be able to fret notes even without using your thumb for support.
3. If i had to start over i wouldnt use tabs; just learn by ear, read notation and learn theory right from the start. They're good habits to get into. Although if you look at tabs and learn a shitload of songs quickly that will help too i guess. At the end of the day it depends on your goals
4. take it to a tech. Its not rocket science but it does take some knowledge. Pay the $50-80 bucks, and if anything have him show you so you have an idea of what to do. Theres different factors at play; the saddles, truss rod, and even pickup height. You'll fuck up your bass if you turn the truss rod too much w/o knowing what youre doing

>>70498875
sounds like you're describing yourself, nigger

>>70497115
youre a degenerate

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Anyone here play classical or jazz guitar?

Can you guys recommend some books/downloads with classical or Jazz guitar arrangements. Something intermediate, and preferably just in standard notation (no tab).

Im looking to improve my sight reading and learn some sweet pieces but dont know where to look for them; trying to avoid really obvious classical tunes.

>>70499741
I haven't tried it but if you look in the OP there's a link to "Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar".

Could be worth checking out.

>>70498821
Can I get more info on this?

>>70497080
That's not how you spell silverstone, seriously you can pick those fuckers up for less than $100 at walmart

>>70499833
ive checked it out. Its good but its more about theory. I want something that is just straight up songs.
Sometimes i spend too much time learning theory and chord progressions instead of actually just playing. I want to learn some cool pieces

>>70498966
Shitplank player reporting in
I play it because I like it more

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Onions on Pedal Steel?

>>70499908
I prefer scallions on my pedal steel to be honest

>>70499741
jazz revolves around standards. you can google that and find them

>>70499908
>

>>70499741
Look up "The Real Book"

It's a book of jazz standards, there should be a guitar version.

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>>70498689

>>70499964
I have the real book. Learning the melodies and chords helps....Im gonna get a book on chord melodies eventually and start putting together arrangements.

Again, im mostly looking to learn how to play pieces....classical or jazz Guitar arrangements

...As in not just the melody; complete pieces put together for guitar, so i can just learn them and not think about the theory always.

Theres so many books on theory, but i wish there were more with just straight up songs. Its hard to find one that is somewhat progressive on the difficulty.

So are there any apps for learning to sing that are like yousician where a microphone listens and tells you if you are hitting the ring notes? I want to learn to simg while I am playing guitar.

>>70497115
how do you ever decide whch one to play lol

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>it's a tuning episode
How do you guys deal with this? Every time I have to pick the tuner and for some songs like Nick Drake's you have to tune literally all the strings, and I'm not even counting the songs where all the strings are tuned down/up/whatever the fuck they are

>>70500415
Depending on the song, you can transpose to standard tuning

>>70500415
play in a low tuning and then you can play most things

>>70496992
Weebs and poorfags ruined /gg/

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why does only the 5th fret of my high e get fret buzz to the point it won't even ring out when fretted but the 4th and 6th frets work just fine

What's the best tuner app for android?

>>70500698
Gstrings

>>70500655
That fret might be uneven

Is there anything like Justins for bass?
Id like to learn that addition to learning guitar

>>70500722
>Is there anything like Justins for bass?

Scott's Bass Lessons
studybass.com

>>70500698
Guitune

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>>70500758
Thanks broski

My strumming rhythm is pure garbage. I'm trying to sharpen it up and make it tighter but it's just a slow crawl... would it be cool if I posted a recording and got some advice?

>>70500722
Just go through all the lessons again but only play the root note

>>70500804
yes. i will report anyone who tries to bully you or something like that, its actually against the rules except in b

>>70500415
if its only a variation of standard tuning toned up or down you can transpose the song

>>70500804
Every body starts some where buddy

>>70500804
>>70501182
>>70500961
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GlW3r5crft

he-here I go guys

what are good cheap pickups to put in my cheap practice project guitar

weirder the better. for blues rock

favorite finger strength exercises?

>>70501616
I didn't really notice any rhythm issues man, but I didn't listen all the way through. Sounds like you're doing fine to me, but rhythm isn't anything but rhythm is 90% predisposition imo

>>70501616
didnt listen to it yet but basic question: how much do you practice your rythm per week?

>>70501616
it's fine. you're very slightly rushing in some places but overall you're doing fine

I know this isn't /prod/ but does anyone know how to get a good lofi sound? I have a decent interface or should just use a labtop to capture the sound?

>>70502033
I try to practice rhythm along with other songs and alone with a metronome every now and then

>>70501638
Have a look at GFS pickups from Guitarfetish
I haven't tried any but I've heard they're good for the price and they've got some more unconventional stuff too
Just make sure to check out some reviews before pulling the trigger

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>>70502081
>I have a decent interface or should just use a labtop to capture the sound

You mean recording DI vs recording with a laptop mic? You can try both, but I always like getting a good quality recording and then affecting it, it gives you more control. Use any stock EQ plugin to make your own lofi. Hard hpf around 300 Hz (mutes low frequencies), and hard lpf around 4kHz (mutes high frequencies). Then maybe boost mids a bit. That'll give you your basic telephonic lofi sound

>>70502099
how often, give in a concrete amount of time per day week month

>>70502431
Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

>>70501616
Cool lyrics

>>70499040
Check out adam neely on youtube, specifically his video on holding the bass.

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>>70500655
The fret infront of it(6th) could be too high which means that when you fret the fifth the string actually touches the 6th which prevents the string from vibrating

>>70499908
What do the pedals do?

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>be 22 y/o salary man
>video games bore me after 5 minutes
>I can only spend so much time in the gym
>trying to pretend like I'm not an empty shell
>figure I should try this out

Obviously I'm going with Justin to learn the basics first, my only experience was a year back when a friend left her guitar at my place and I played with it for a month (only read tabs, played shit like Wonderwall since apparently that nets you instant pussy)

My end game is to be able to play math rock, similar to (kek you can actually see my head in this video):
https://youtu.be/tSpKaV15gS8?t=161
Cheapest I'm able to find in my area, pic related.
Are these things ok for what I want?

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>>70503433
Where do you live? Online can net you some good deals

>>70503484
Some 3rd world shit hole, not even Manila, I'm in Cebu which makes my options very limited because what's cheap over at your side might cost me an arm and a leg if you count shipping.

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>>70503484
>>70503503
The ESP-LTD I posted is brand new, there's a guy selling a "Fender Strat" in our equivalent of craigslist - cheaper than the one I posted first, but I'm 9999999 trillion percent it's fake.

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>>70503527
Can you tell, /gg/?

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>>70503503
Selamat pagi!

>>70503563
Selamat malam. I've rewatched bits of Nichijou from time to time because it makes me forget about the crushing loneliness, but I'm trying to fix that by preoccupying myself with guitars! So tell me already, should I pull the trigger on >>70503433
This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh4WU7KiZ-k makes it sound great but hey I don't know shit about guitars, what's good and what's not, but as I've mentioned my ultimate goal is to play math rock.

>>70503593
Yeah that'd be a good guitar for math rock and heavier rock in general

I'd say get it

I need to buy a slide /gg/, question is: glass or metal?

>>70503639
glass, no contest

sonority is better 1041042190412%

>>70503620
All right! Picking it up now, I also really love the no frills aesthetic, I don't know much about the reverse headstock but hey it does look like I can use it for self defense.

>>70503062
curious too

>>70503639
Glass fo sho, get something nice and thick

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>guitar
Ahaha bleps

>>70503656
>>70503717

Thanks, another question: what's a good lightweight guitar fx processor for windows? I just need a few simple things: delay, tremolo, autowah, and maybe a preamp to send through the loop but I'm on really cheap hardware.

>>70503856
guitar rig
amplitube

any of them with asio4all

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>>70497115
So many strats

>>70497115
>all of those strats
you played yourself

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>>70500239
7 tunings

What does /gg/ think about music with guitar that isn't necessarily technically extreme in difficulty like Punk/Garage Rock or even textural music like Shoegaze or Post-Rock? Do you prize "good (technical) guitar playing" as inherently desirable in music above all else, leaving all music that doesn't aspire to technical complexity as mediocre, or do you think there's something more to music than just technical detail and complexity (in a classical sense)?

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>>70497115
This will be you in a few months

>>70504464
I love ambient post rock stuff. Love making that stuff with a looper.
I also love more technical stuff like jazz/fusion though. Right now I'm into playing jazz but I listen to a lot of stuff

>>70504464
I think if it sounds good to me, I like it
That is partially why I enjoy all of King Crimson. It's the perfect balance between extreme technical ability and extremely great songwriting with enough texture to make it sound just right
I do like extremely complex mathrock though, not to play but to listen to. I just enjoy it

>>70504477
INTRODUCING THE NEW AMERICAN BLUES VINTAGE PLAYERS SPECIAL 60'S NECK JIMI HENDRIX STEVIE RAY VAUGHN DELUXE EDITION PRO SERIES LIMITED STRAT

>>70504464
I like the idea of shoegaze in theory. But in practice I don't like it most of the time. I think the jangly bullshit is partly responsible for that.
I like most technical bands without really any exceptions but I don't think a band is bad if they're not technical.
I do however hate punk and garage rock.

>>70504500
CONFUSION
WILL BE MY EPITAPH

>>70504535
ELEPHANT TALK

>>70504464
Something like UK, where any technical elements are rounded out by a frontman who yearns for pop success. It makes for loud arguments and alcoholism, but it also makes for a damn good album.

>>70504464
if it sounds good then its good

>>70504500
On the subject of King Crimson, Adrian Belew's signature Parker is the best guitar ever made:
>Sustainer
>Piezo/MIDI
>Variax

>>70504722
I fucking love parkers. I love mine.

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>Started out learning riffs
>learn chords
>like playing different shapes/inversions
>try to play scales but playing sings notes doesn't feel right

Anyone else like playing rhythm more than lead?

>>70504464
I like what I like.
if it's technical or it is not, it doesnt matter if it sounds good to me.

>>70504784
yeah. i think its way more fun for the most part.

>>70505245
I can't really get into playing much rock stuff. But hearing some jazzy sample stuff from Samurai Champloo just sounds so fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYRDgd3Tb44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-tTmSY4m4M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK8LfZAOqKs

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>>70505330
Jose Feliciano's Affirmation where Counting Stars sampled from
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S__ff2jra1g

Doesn't matter if he's blind, he can still play Hendrix like a mother fucker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHNCIc86ZVA

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>>70500415
>spent weeks getting the floating trem on my strat perfect
>spent weeks getting my gibsons action just right

>mfw a song is in anything but E standard

>>70500415
>he can't afford multiple guitars with different tunings on them
poorfags get out

how easy is it to repair a noisy pickup switch on a strat?

Which guitar is the most red pilled?

>>70506403
toss it in a wood chipper

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>>70506418
this of course.

Do you think this is good playing?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rkGQGz7dvTs

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>>70506421
>i don't know shit about electronics
ok

anyone who does?

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Chapmemes new guitars are actually kinda cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAIVJihyXQE

What other sites do you visit?

Rig Talk
The Gear Page
Guitar Amp Board

>>70499741
Search for Mertz's 3 Nocturnes, should be one of the first things on IMSLP.
It's public domain like most classical music so its free.

The three pieces are simple enough to be sight read without much trouble, but complex enough to challenge and add phrasing/tone colour considerations.

>>70506521
4chan,org/mu/gg

gear sites are so fucking autistic

>>70506540
I like them for the classifieds but there's Reverb now

>>70506516
>more fucking metal guitars
yawn

>>70506496
You'll need to take the pickguard off and spray it down with this.

http://www.stewmac.com/Materials_and_Supplies/Cleaners_and_Lubricants/CAIG_DeoxIT_Pot_and_Switch_Cleaner.html

>>70506521
I look at some pedalboard threads every now and then, but bbs forums need ethering.

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You will never own a Friedman

>>70497153
G&L make good shit. You won't regret it but the resale value of them isn't great. If you want to keep it then it's a sensible purchase.

>>70506700
>you will never gas a (((Friedman)))
Why live?

>>70506720
2nd hand is a pretty sensible purchase for an American G&L.

>>70506700
I don't want one
if someone offered a friedman to me, I'd sell it and buy some other stuff instead

>>70506607
>New S-S-S guitars

>>70506819
wow, single coils
the finest rarity, never seen before

What is the best software to record guitar? I'm looking for something that lets you record one part like chords and then melodies over those chords

>>70506936
reaper

>>70506936
so literally any software that lets you lay down multiple tracks?
use Audacity

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I this guitar pure autism?

>>70506977
no it's pretty cool

>>70506977
Nah, it's a Kiesel.

That makes it cancer.

>>70506977
>numbers for inlays
jesus Christ
other than that it's fine

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How tf did Digitech go from shitty fizz boxes to innovative stuff like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puXTs6zclT4

>>70507028
don't tell me you think the rainbow pickups are fine..

>>70507090
not the best thing but they're certainly better than numbers for inlays

>>70506744
I agree but I just meant if you bought one new and wanted to sell it at a later date you would get less than certain brands.

>>70507089
>>70507089
Seems very specific and kinda gimmicky but also really nice.

>>70507089
I like the idea of this pedal and I'll probably get it at some point, but you can easily create feedback simply by turning your amp up a bit.

Thoughts on Wizard amps?

http://wizardamplification.com/mtl.htm

>>70507089
Wasn't Digitech originally DOD? they've always been pretty innovative

>>70507291
Too expensive to try

>>70507340
They both got taken over by Harman.

Songwriting questions:

1)what are basic rules when writing chord progressions?

2)how do you connect "feeling" or "emotions" to the technical aspects of music writing. Do you compose when th e emotion is hot, or let it cool off and then analyse it?

3)how do you get into a composing mood? i find that if i have little time and i must force myself to practice a lesson note per note i can do it. But if i have to improvise or write songs i must be in a certain creative mood, is there a way to get in that mood in a jiffy?
the problem is that between job and college i can never find enough time to really calm down and get into the mood naturally, that takes a lot of time

>>70507722
You have to have a reason to write a song. If you don't it will come off as fake and feel forced. Your song should match the emotion of the lyrics. Id recommend writing about an experience youve had or a short made up story with as much detail as possible. From that story you can begin to draft up lyrics (which I highly recommend treating as its own separate art form and buying individual books online to improve your ability) and the emotions that story evokes in you can be matched up with a key. If you are a beginner I recommend looking at songs that match how you feel about your own sing and using the same key. Good luck anon stay hustlin

>>70507722
>what are basic rules when writing chord progressions?

If it sounds good it is good.

>>70501616
yr better than me

>>70507291
Overpriced Marshalls by Angus's tech for "muh Angus tone"

How do I gauge how good I am?
People who don't play say I'm good but I don't know any guitar players to actually tell me

>>70507722
>>70507836


http://vocaroo.com/i/s1GlW3r5crft

As an example here's a song I've been working on but I wrote the lyrics a long time ago around the time my grandmother passed. I try to include symbols and such in my lyrics most of the time but this example is heavy in the emotion lines (which describe how you feel) and lacking in physical lines (what is happening in the song or where or who etc.) To keep your song interesting you want a good balance of both of these. You don't want to tell people how you feel (I was so sad! Or I was so angry!) You want to show it in clever ways (I watched my reflection in the water as my shadow trailed over the sand, or I was a burning building in the night)

Just trying to help out anon

>>70507722

1. Look at the circle if fiths, ut generally. I start with a chord, then pick a note in the chord to be the root of the next chord.

2. Look at minor and major scales. If you want happy, go with more major chords. Sad or dark minor. Use different modes to find a different chord progression. Mix it up.

I find drum tracking harder, but it has a simple rule. Accentuation is better than saturation. Star with a capital, end with a period, or exclamation.

Keep it short and simple. Nobody wants to hear a 22 minute love ballad about the girl that rejected you. Aim for 2-3 minutes. Expand from there after youve worked out your style.

3. Drugs. Or a routine of opening cubase and working, or even make no changes but opening and working on a song every day for at least 30 minutes. Its a skill to practice like all others.

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I need to change the machineheads on my epiphone firebird. Where do I get new ones?
>pic related

>>70508147
95% of new machine heads will not be a direct replacement. You will need to drill new mounting holes.

>>70500415
Buy a Whammy DT, i have one and use it all the time

how to find out what chords are on a scale?

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What kind of desks do you use use for production? Does this look decent

>>70508129
>3. Drugs
Tfw can't shred unless sober, but also can't sing and jam acoustic unless drunk

>>70508364
Just buy a tabletop and legs from Ikea and I'm pretty sure you can get matching stands like that from there too that you could easily put together. It wont look like a cardboard box painted black and you will have flexibility on how it looks.

>>70503062
>>70503690
shift the pitch up/down

thats how you get those smooth swells on slide. the pedal is a volume pedal.

>>70508321
look up 'scale degrees'

major scale is major minor minor major major minor diminished (1-7)

>>70508461
so it doesn't matter what scale, only if minor or major?

>>70508491
a minor scale is just a major scale starting on the 6th note lad; ionian vs aeolian diatonic modes

>>70507935
don't worry about how good you are, just keep practicing and most importantly have fun doing it

>>70508561
I wanna join/start a band though

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>>70508364
>way overpriced keyboard desk
Nice meme
i think I paid about $200 for a modular corner unit, and added to it.

>>70508364
>not doing his production on the floor
gotta pay your dues before those massive stacks of cash flow in m8

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>>70508711
I use this

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i see someone is trying to sell a Flying V ukulele in my country's equivalent of CL.

it's so stupid, yet i totally want it.

where do you guys get backing tracks? i need to paly some crimsonesque shit and i don't find any augmented backing tracks

>>70508863
>wanting a ukulele
>ever
get out

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>>70508874
bruh, it's a V. it's metal as fuck. i'll hook it up to my amp and play some fucking Hawaii-core or some shit. i'll be a pioneer, just watch me.

Should I get a noise suppressor or change my strats pickups to something noiseless? What's more practical?

>>70497129
kill self

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>>70508863

>>70508871
what if you record yourself playing some simple stuff to play over?

>>70509120
Dean - The best manufacterer of mememachines

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anyone in greater LA area wanna trade for any of this? that's a crush 35RT

split on keeping the rhino. looking for dat stock yellow revstar, bass cabs, solid wah and an EQ pedal. trying to transition to tube but im too poor to keep all so heads also welcome

or whatever. surprise me

>>70509156
I'll give you a Dean ML ukulele for everything.

>>70509156
>Thinking anybody wants a shitty solid state and meme pedals

>>70509134
well, yes, is a good idea, i know, tight? but the thing is that i don't know WHAT CHORDS TO PLAY, understand? i'm a fucking newfag at this i suck so hard

>>70509180
>probably never owned any of this equipment

its real easy to complain on the internet about shit u never used huh

>>70509203
>1x10 solid state amp

oh I have an excellent idea of how boxy and buzzy it sounds

Recommend me some good guitars for thrash metal. My budget is around 500 Euros.

>>70509203
Why do you use your email with 4chan?

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>>70509149
who even buys their crap ? how do they stay afloat ?

>>70509220
>confirmed never played it

ok ;) solid states are shit ur right

>>70509222
Some sort of Flying V

>>70509233
how else r u supposed to log in?

>>70509245
Thanks, they are objectively better glad you finally figured that out.

>>70509222
trips, nice

I would get an LTD M-series or a used SG

>>70509241
The amount of money that Dean makes off Dimebag guitars in the South is enough to keep them in business for the next 400 years.

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>>70509222
I can imagine this guitar being good for thrash metal. Thin neck, humbuckers etc.

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>>70509241
desu the flagship Demonator is a good Thunderbird-like bass. I would consider getting one if it wasn't David Vincent's signature

I also like the necks on MLs

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>>70509241
>Who even buy their crap?

Here, I'll give you a hint.

>>70509289
Pantera fans are the worst..
>YEH MURICA!
>DIMEBERG!
>SOUTH-PRIDE YERRRH!!
>THEY TOOK 'ER JERBS!!

>>70509267
>>70509289
You can't just keep a guitar company floating just by selling different varients of the same signature model.

>>70509281
It looks like pure shit. It's one of the most aesthetically displeasing guitar/bass model that exists.

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>>70509346
>You can't just keep a guitar company floating just by selling different varients of the same signature model.

>>70509346
Yeah, but by making a confederate flag guitar, you cement yourself as the only company with the guts to stand up to those dirty liberal fags. That goes far in the land of no education like the South

>>70509324
I've never met anyone like that

>>70509420
Then you've never met any Pantera fans

>>70509250
>>70509264
>>70509278
Thanks for the suggestions. But I'm really liking flying V's.
And would any of these be decent?
LTD Alexi 200
Epiphone Prophecy Les Paul Custom Plus EX Midnight Ebony
Epiphone 1984 Explorer EX AW
Dean V Dave Mustaine Peace Sells
dean zero x

>>70509375
Honestly I was more expecting a Music Man John Petrucci signature.

>>70509376
If that was the case they wouldn't be so big.

>>70509435
They're not exactly like that in europe.
Still have the same "muh dimebag" mentality though.

>>70509436
I'm not really in to Flying V's myself, but I'd definatly choose it instead of the other suggestions.

>>70500415
the more you do it, the easier it gets.

t. American Football fan

TIP: always tune down first, then tune back up. it makes the process into a habit better and is better for string tension

>>70508830
>spending 2!grand on a desk

Are you fucking retarded?

Build your own

http://www.homestudioguy.com/

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Fender/Squier dropped these at NAMM. I excited. I've always wanted a stripped down hardtail Jazzmaster.

>>70509548
Posters here are open about not being able to change their own strings and being afraid of screwdrivers. How could they ever build their own desk?

>>70509267
lol'd
Thats niche marketing I guess. I always wondered also who the fuck buys those guitars. Guitar Center stocked them when i was a teenager and i used to see a few metalheads with them, but i dont see them in store anymore

>>70509607
Thats cool, if they have a tortoise shell sun burst i'd be all over that

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>>70507836
>>70507945
>>70508129
wow, these are all really good, thank you, thank you very much. In return here's a picture of a pretty girl with big eyes


Another question, don't you ever start writing a song out of nowhere, without knowing what's it going to be about and then "add" the meaning, or realize what you were aiming for?

>>70507722
>1)what are basic rules when writing chord progressions?
well once you have a couple chords that sound good together, any key in which they coexist will do. modulations will usually come in pivotal points and there are lots of ways to go from one key to another
>2)how do you connect "feeling" or "emotions" to the technical aspects of music writing. Do you compose when th e emotion is hot, or let it cool off and then analyse it?
depends, personally i write lyrics when the emotion is "hot", and then i can take all the time i need with the music or maybe i'll come up with a cool chord progression or melody and i kind of save it for when i figure out some theme or feeling that goes with it for a song.
>3)how do you get into a composing mood? i find that if i have little time and i must force myself to practice a lesson note per note i can do it. But if i have to improvise or write songs i must be in a certain creative mood, is there a way to get in that mood in a jiffy?
yeah, people tend to get pretty mystical about inspiration and creativity like it was a gift or an abstract meditational status but really it's more about practice than anything else. you sit down as often as you can and write stuff, not in an emotional cathartic way but more as a methodical excercise of conveying ideas in a certain way you like, and you'll get better at it. reading and listening to a lot of music helps too.

>>70510147 (my example)
>>70507945

when it comes to writing music you can start in whichever order you prefer, there is no set rule in this, however you want to be consistent. The reason some people listen to Ariana Grande for example is because her music is consistently sexy and promiscuous, the reason some people listen to [your favorite band] is because it is consistently [your favorite bands vibe].

to answer your question, my preference is to have lyrics/emotions/vibe already written down or plotted out in my head before going into writing chord progressions and song structure.

never forget that people listen to music because of the emotions that are invoked in playing. if you write out your music in the most technical, manufactured fashion, people will still like it, but they wont like it as much as people who are very expressive and hypnotic like Kurt Cobain for example.

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Any other bassists ever give up on learning a song because it's so exhausting to memorize all the original fills and other improvised elements? I guess the natural thing would be to just do your own improv, but it bothers me cause I can still hear the original when I play along

>>70510716
i gave up on learning songs because it's boring

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>leave house
>remember that I left my amp on standby

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>>70510914
i know this feel all too well

>>70503527
>>70503544
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4QdOJ1B_kI&t=334s

Is a capo really necessary or can I just get away with doing bar chords?

>>70504464
when i listen to music, i don't focus on the guitar unless i'm sitting down learning it by ear.
> leaving all music that doesn't aspire to technical complexity as mediocre
sorry i'm not a full time fa/gg/ot to really care about technicality. but i do appreciate what the guitarist does.

>>70505175
google +1'd

>>70510769
I gave up on driving cars because it was going nowhere

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These look perfect.

Should I cop?

>>70510914
>be in band
>guitarist has a narshal hd that sounds like a box of bees and cant cut through the drums and bass
>loan him my new bugera 333xl
>constantly flips the power off and never uses standby
>leaves amp on over the weekend when he finally uses standby
>he calls tha amp a p.o.s. because it blewa few tubes on him
>goes back to using the marshall
>is actually worse now because added keys

9 out if 10 times it's not the gear but the musician's head that is defective.

Newbie here.
>want to play chord
>search 'x chord guitar' in google images
>a huge number of images depicting different chords all claiming to be x chord appear
Can someone explain this phenomenon?

>>70502742
>>70502742
This Neely guy specifically says to NOT hold your thumb behind the middle finger. Why are you guys telling me wrong information?

>>70511667
a chord is just a particular set of notes and there are lots of different ways to voice it, as well as multiple ways to finger a particular voicing

>>70511680
I don't remember him saying that, rather just mostly "stay relaxed", in which video is it ?

>>70511783
>"People who aren't shit do it"
>"its improper technique"
>A successful bass player and composer says not to do it

I'm not sure why I thought people here would know what they're talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRkSsapYYsA

>>70511500
you don't need a capo, but should know that chords are given relative to the capo, meaning you have to transpose up if you want to play in the original key. Ex Gmaj with capo on 2nd fret would be a Amaj without. Cmaj would be a Dmaj and so on.

>>70511957
I agree with him, but the classical stance on the left hand is that the thumb and middle finger should be aligned.
I've been messing around playing more with the classical thumb positioning (as opposed to his technique I've been doing on guitar since I started almost three years ago) and I have no pains whatsoever after doing it for about two months, multiple hours a day. The problem's not your fretting technique but rather how much you tense up doing it.

He's got a great video about the whole "finger stenght" bullshit people keep repeating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_RdSSQeqU0

Also you mentioned your action being maybe setup wrong, how high is it ?

>>70511667
most regular chords consist of three notes called a triad. A Cmaj chord would be the notes C E G. As long as you have these notes you can play a C chord without caring about the order of notes. C E G is the normal chord, but E C G would also be a C, but an inversion. Inversions pop up a lot on guitar because of the way the instrument is made.

>>70512194
>>70511957
On guitar its perfectly normal to hold the thumb over the guitar, at least for those of us who have bigger hands. For me this is important as i would be bending my wrist way too much if my thumb sat behind the middle finger. As for bass, i would use a combination of whats comfortable and also a position that doesn't put much strain on the wrist. You shouldn't feel any pain in your wrist if you play in a "proper" way. If you have the thumb behind the bass it should at least be at around 90 degrees.

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Will this allow me to split my bass signal into clean and overdriven through a pedal, and send them both to the same amp?

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>>70512512
>and send them both to the same amp?
i don't think that will sound like you think it will sound.
if you want to be able to blend clean and OD this overdrive does that

>>70512317
>>70511765
Thanks. I guess I'll have to open a theory book.

>>70512579
I think it will sound like a distorted bass tone without losing the low end

Am I wrong

What would it sound like?

should I take a use ampeg 4x12 with casters for $150

it has a bunch of gay spray paint "666" on top and some band's name on the side. i guess i could try to paint over it

>>70512607
oh yeah that makes sense
i was thinking more like a balanced mix of the OD and the clean sound which would probably end up being really messy but yeah if your OD is cutting the low frequencies then having the clean sigal underneath will probably "fill" it up

>>70512613
i don't know how often you come across a deal like that in the country of burger but i'd get that cab in an instant no matter how many dildo stencils it's covered with

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>alt qt detected at local music shop
>no reason to go back

>>70512668
Yeah I use a Blues Driver which sounds rad on its own but I lose all presence in the mix when everyone else is playing.

I just want a little bit of dirt without being lost, and I also want to keep using my blues driver because I use it on guitar too and cba getting another pedal

>>70512739
makes sense
that MXR bass OD looks rad though, i don't want to shill it too much without having tried it but it looks very promising

>>70512704
it's an ampeg v i think they're much less quality than the b15s or anything like that

>>70512790
It looks good yeah but $$$
Maybe in the future

>>70501616
That was a beautiful song senpai

I didn't notice anything wrong with your rhythm. I guess I can see what you mean by that slow sweeping sound but it's not like it doesnt work with the song

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>>70512805
i was looking at one of these mini stacks used for $500 the other day...

>>70511522
kek

best guitar shows?

>>70511545
unless it's used it's probably going to be cheapo

>>70513097
steve terreberry, he's hilarious

>>70513103
This I have a cheapo guitar. IT's not possible to lower the bridge low enough for proper string height, 6th string gets fret buzz when playing certain frets and the 6th and 1st string can't be adjusted enough to actually get the intonation set right, they can be set REALLY close but still not quite there. I'm about to trade it in for a better guitar.

>>70513157
Oh, and used this shitty guitar still goes for nearly as much as that guitar the guy posted goes for new.

I've been playing guitar for about 5 years now and I picked up bass about a month ago. I waited for so long because bassists always tell me how technical and difficult it is.

Bull.

Fucking.

Shit.

Bass is so retardedly easy. I can't believe I ever listened, I can already play at or above the level of any bassist I know. Almost all the bass parts to songs are really simple and rarely fast. The only thing you could possibly say are the strings are harder to push down, but that isn't a problem if you aren't a wimp.

TL;DR bassists are all retarded, but I am having fun with bass.

>>70513264
its because they dont want you taking their jobs

alright fa/gg/ots.
i wanna learn swing guitar. mainly rhythm so don't sperg out about django or charlie or wes.
giggle only results in books people want to sell or jazz lessons in the style of djanog/charlie/wes etc.

>>70512512
I've been thinking about getting one of those for my guitar

Have the A signal go through my normal pedalboard and guitar amp and then have B signal go through an octave pedal into a bass amp

Ill be able to switch between guitar and bass or both seamlessly

>>70509548
Spoken like a true bedroom amateur.

>>70513264
bass is braindead easy
it's why it's so fun

>>70513264

you gotta feel the groove tho

New thread

>>70513830
>>70513830
>>70513830

>>70513264
Mostly true but there are exceptions. Playing bass is much harder in a funk band; funk guitar is brain dead easy. But for most genres bass is much easier.

>>70513264
maybe it's because you've been playing guitar for 5 years

>>70508874
Don't be such a fag, everyone wants a flying V uke.

>>70512613
Try and research which particular cab it is. If it's an older one that came with a v4 then cop it. Later ones came with the same speakers that crate amps used (aka shit) and aren't anything to write home about.

>>70512512
>>70512607
Does your amp have two inputs?

I learned to play by watching YouTube tutorials for songs I liked and learning chords.

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>>70496992
do people actually struggle to learn guitar?

someone i knew straight up gave me one when i was a little guy and i learned to play the bastard in a couple of nights just by looking up song tabs

>>70509838
Only black/black and white/black my dude.