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prose, themes, etc

mostly prose tho

Prose>Themes>Impressing /lit/>Plot

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>>7535932

pleb
>reading for plot

normal
>reading for characters

pseudo-patrician
>reading for prose

patrician
>reading for themes

real literary critics and other genuinely intelligent and sensitive readers
>realizing good authors use all of the above to work together in order to create an impressive and emotionally resonant work of art

>>7535909

Of course they should be likable. If they're the main character, you're spending all your time with them and so you should like reading about them the most.

in order, no, notes from the underground, combray and anything written by vargas llosa and also

>but the plot keeps you reading.

you fucking pleb

fire of my loins

Avoid reading a translation as often as possible. A translated work is easier because any features which can't be rendered in the target language must be left flattened and can't be replaced with a different figure of speech. That's why a lot of antique Latin and Greek authors originally in verse are returned in prose, the metrics aren't the same. The style of Franz Kafka precisely relies in this “weird syntax” upon which revolves each sentences' pace, they are built to carry the breath on the last word in a kind of crescendo. English lost it, having a different word order, a different structure and a conflictual relation to long propositions. If you indeed read Johann Wolfgang von Goethe—sorry, I hate splitting a name—you must feel his influence in Franz Kafka's prose. In German, you spot his taste for classical literature as well as French one—guess in what language he did go through it. In English you can't. The “reading translation meme” is, for once, quite fair and reasonable. I almost never read translated works and keep it for content-driven material, such as fantasy fiction or non-fiction. Doing otherwise makes hardly any sense.

Have you read the meme trilogy tho?

>>7536010
I think lots of good works of fiction can survive translation. I'm very happy that I read Dostoevsky, Chekhov, Calvino, Borges and so on, all in translation. I even looked into a Ulysses translation and I'd say that you still see Joyce's qualities, so that it still is a good read even if you don't understand English. Sure, it's worse than the original, but you can't simply learn 15+ languages just to read a few novels.

Imagine being born in, say, Korea. I'm sure there is some good Korean literature out there, but you'll have to read translations eventually, also because the Korean language is an isolated language so it's pretty hard to become fluent in another language to the extent that you get more from the original text than from the translation.

>>7535792
>Any help explaining and defining exactly what the prompt means

he wants you to find clues as to hamlet's mental state and say whether he's just pretending to be a crazy person or not

>>7535792
It's due 3 days from now, not tomorrow, and that's just the rough draft.

>>7535798
She changed the due date, shes wants it the day we get back from our christmas break

story of o

>>7535735
Venus in Furs

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Tbh the only erotica I've ever read was by Anne Rice (Awakening of Sleeping Beauty or something). It had BDSM (obviously) and was OK read. Her writing gave me lots of boners if that's what you are looking for. Quasi-recomendable.
I've heard a lot fo good things abput the classic Training of O if you want something written by female. Buuut, the resumen I've read gave me pretty meh feeling, I'm afraid i's lots of violent sex and literally no emotions.
Also de Sade, but it's the classic so I don't have t mention him. Never got to read anything though (what's the best one to start with btw? Justine?).

Try to enjoy the community and every moment you're there. Don't to anything immoral.

Police department in my country once released a guide on how to perform suidice. You should defenitely check it out

fucking leave? life is too short to be spent with savages away from civilization

>>7535660
>Objectively speaking

what is that even supposed to mean you cockmuncher

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Lolita. I would have murdered Quilty too, he was a real cocksucker.

Might Makes Right - Ragnar Redbeard

It means she's watching out for him.

>>7535607

>*meet anon*
>"I'm watching out for you anon"

For real?

It's just a colloquial greeting here in the UK. I suppose it's used to show the character's informal and relaxed nature towards Harry.

Brilliant. Best new English language book that I've read in a long time.

>>7535525
Finally going to break my 'no books by non-whites or non-males' boycott to read this. But still haven't read it yet. Nothing by a non-male in the forseeable future though.

>>7535640
Not even Japs?

>>7535506
>death of work

Into the army you go

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http://www.ccru.net/archive.htm

>>7535518
... do you mean

>work of death?

Kant

>>7535454
...

fuck me i forgot about that

>>7535446
no need for kant imo
I did most of the greeks, Then existentialism, Popper, Frege, Wittgenstein
Then you start Hegel and boom you're the man now

>>7535242
i-is jesus squirting blood out of his nipple onto that guy's lip?

>>7535242
Don Quixote bro

>>7535249
i'd argue that don quixote has doctrines and absolutes.

if they do it shouldn't be poo-in-the-loo-ese

>>7535143
Came to poost this

>>7535139
depends what they want to do with their lives. do they want to be the human equivalent of farm animals, eking out an average but comfortable existence, moving through average but comfortable relationships, collecting average but comfortable experiences, and to aspire to nothing more - such as is the fate, anyway, of ~70% of anglophones? do they want to be athletes in a purely national sport? bricklayers? mechanics etc?

if not, yeah, it's worthwhile

I dunno, but his podcast is great. My kinda guy.

Less Than Zero is complete fucking garbage, absolutely disgusting.
American Psycho is really good, haven't read anything other than those two though.

>>7535085

>X is bad
>X is good

I'm glad to see you really sparking the discussion in this thread.

Will always have been Romanticism, IMO.

>literary movements

you've been spooked lad

>>7535077
I use them my advantage. For example, I read one book from a certain movement and I find I like certain aspects of it so I read more from the movement