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So I've recently picked up this book, now I'm about two thirds in but i can figure out if this book is just a meme or not.
The antagonist is a cuck and the main protagonist is a fucking autist.
please tell me if im just wasting my time getting jewed by meme books
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>>8205839
what the fuck are you thinking? i mean seriously. what the fuck are you thinking?
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>>8205841
sorry i dont know what you mean
i do enjoy this book, but i cant get over the fact that it seems like "scripted" or planned or something
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>>8205847
i dunno, don't you think the problem might be that you're aiming a bit low on the lit totem pole? i mean, it's a mass marketed simp novel that has little imagination. I'm not trying to be pretentious or anything, but there's so much more out there, man. I mean, it doesn't seem like you're enjoying it, and I like to hope you're not baiting me, so maybe you can move into the realm of cooler stuff. I mean the book i'm reading, someone literally cut off their own nuts as penance for their perversity, a bull was sacrificed after it was used to deflower a virgin who was distraught at the revelation of a false messiah, and a woman leapt out of a building and landed on a postman for fuck's sake. If that doesn't pique at least some slight interest, then maybe it's better to stick with books like this, that you know what's going to happen, that don't challenge you or make you wonder and squirm and ache and hate and love and burrow into your mind to try to escape and become addicted to. there are books out there that tear us from ourselves by force and leave our nerves exposed, that rip us from our world and fulfill dreams we never imagined we had. resonant ideas and thoughts that pop your eyeballs out they're so dense. you're missing out reading the fucking hannibal series, friend. join the land of literature, read something else for chrissakes.

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I've played the games, and I was genuinly pleased with them (played only DoW 1 with all expansions), and now I want to read about it more. What novels are good for introducing me to Warhammer's world, and where should I start reading?

Thanks in advance, /lit/!
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>>8205809
>I've played the games
>played only DoW 1 with all expansions

so, you haven't played the game then?
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Caiaphas Cain would be a good place to start. After that I would suggest Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Gaunt's Ghosts and Enforcer.

If you just want setting/lore shit, go over to /tg/ and get them to hook you up with the tabletop and RPG rulebooks.

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>>8205788

Any book with a utopian setting.
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>>8205788
Anything where people overreact and after some time realize that it was worth it in the long run.
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>>8205788
Just read some history books on the parts of Europe that suffered most during the medieval period.

Here's to all Marxists in the house, what's your response to this paragraph from Capital Volume 1?

How do you folks, or rather, what makes you folks think that just because two things are equal in exchange value they have some other thing in common
In other words, what justification can you give for this para from Capital V1

"Let us take two commodities, e.g., corn and iron. The proportions in which they are exchangeable, whatever those proportions may be, can always be represented by an equation in which a given quantity of corn is equated to some quantity of iron: e.g., 1 quarter corn = x cwt. iron. What does this equation tell us? It tells us that in two different things – in 1 quarter of corn and x cwt. of iron, there exists in equal quantities something common to both. The two things must therefore be equal to a third, which in itself is neither the one nor the other. Each of them, so far as it is exchange value, must therefore be reducible to this third."
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>>8205718
Marxist here. Don't question Marx's teachings. Just take it all in, absorb as much as you can.
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>>8205721
I'm sorry I'm actually not sure if you're serious because I've been told things along those lines before non-ironically. Care to explain the purpose of doing that so I know you have a point here?
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Well, because there's nothing about one quarter of corn *in itself* that 'makes it' equivalent to a centum weight iron, nor vice versa. They are different 'things', with different qualities and different amounts, so on what grounds can we claim they are equivalent? Some third term must connect them.

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metaphysical mystery narratives? novels that chase unanswerable questions and an abstract sense of mystery
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The Man Who Was Thursday, kinda
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Kafkas The Trial and The Castle
Borges
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>>8205672
i've read the obvious ones like kafka and borges,
thank you for the suggestion though.

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>read tons of communist works
>still can't bring myself to become a communist

I don't know, but despite the fact I love checking it out, I am unable to identify as such or even want to fight for their cause.
Anyone else know these feels?
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i can't wait for this thread to go to shit
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>>8205586
fuck off
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I was in your position until I began reading the anarcho-communists. Then it clicked.

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Anyone else find Middle English far more beautiful and pleasurable to ear, heart and tongue than Modern or Early Modern English?
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No.
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It sounds different to the english you grew up with, so it sounds better to you. People in general enjoy the sound of non-native languages more than the sound of native, I feel. Middle English also appeals to your pretentiousness.
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>>8205710
So you don't believe any language can sound any better than any other language? All sounds are created equal?

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>it's the eye of the dragon
>It's the thrill of the fight
>Rising up to the challenge of our rival
fucking really spielberg?
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>>8205502
not literature
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>>8205556
It's a masterpiece. Read it, OP.
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>>8205575
>Written for his daughter as a scary fairytale story
>literature

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I'll start. pic related.
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Seinfeld
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was
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>>8205488
Am

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If you write fictional prose, does there have to be a story in it?

pic unrelated
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Nobody is standing over your shoulder telling you what you need to write, anon.
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I don't understand the question.
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If you are asking if a work of fiction necessarily has to have some sort of plot of resolution or revelation in order to be marketable, the answer is almost certainly yes. You can always just publish online.

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>main character is a writer
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>>8205435
>main writer is a character
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>main character is the primary focus of the book
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>characters

"I think the word pretension has become like the word ironic – just this catch–all term to distance people from interesting experiences and cultural engagement and possible embarrassment. Pretension can lead to other things. You know, the first time I read Gravity's Rainbow, I did so because I thought it would make me seem cool. That was my original motivation. But now I've read it six times, and I find it hilarious and great and I understand it. You can't be afraid to embarrass yourself sometimes."
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lmao just open that image and actually look at his face and then re-read that
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>>8205408
now that's what I call kek
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>>8205398

James Murphy is dope.

>this catch–all term to distance people from interesting experiences and cultural engagement and possible embarrassment

That's spot on. I have certain friends who have pleb taste in everything and whenever I try to share something with them that I enjoy, they say I'm pretentious for liking it. Liking things that are perceived as high(er) culture is not automatically "pretentious".

I think it is ultimately a way for the speaker to call the other person's authenticity into question when they feel insecure about their own personal taste. e.g. "My friend likes x but I don't understand it. It's not possible that someone could actually have more sophisticated taste than me. (to paraphrase Hobbes- everyone thinks he is the most wise because he perceives his own wit at hand and others' at a distance) Therefore, my friend is being "pretentious".

It's really too bad. It's part of a general trend against the arts/humanities. Anyone with a genuine interest in literature, music, film, art, whatever is immediately labeled as pretentious by peers.

>You know, the first time I read Gravity's Rainbow, I did so because I thought it would make me seem cool. That was my original motivation. But now I've read it six times, and I find it hilarious and great and I understand it.

This is really fucking true. People don't realize that your taste will always stay shit unless you force yourself out of your comfort zone.

Oh boy, anon, it's the book fair! What're you going to get?
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captain underpants and shitty joke books
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Mein kampf or the communist manifesto. What about you?
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Ripley's believe it or not and a race car eraser my man

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How do you approach a book /lit/?

Just pick it up, read it, take your interpretation, and leave it?
Research the book a little so you're primed to understand the common interpretation of a book?
Read it and research it after to support or deny your own interpretations?

Do these things changed based on the scope of the book? Say, 1984 vs. Finnegan's Wake?

Or do you just not read and shitpost instead?
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>>8205353
Usually I read it and then later I read some stuff that other people wrote about it. Then if I have the time and inclination I might read it again.
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>>8205353
>Find book
>Check wikipedia page/goodreads
>browse through random pages
>buy book
>read

I do this if I'm buying Crime and Punishment or Garfields Greatest Hits. It's a bad habit I know.
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I've learned to enjoy books instead of fret over their meaning. Oddly, result has been an improvement in my own ability to abstractly and uniquely interpret and analyze books. Sometimes I do get curious and read other stuff about the work but only after I finish.

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Do people like this actually exist in the world?

How many people are like me, neurotic and anxious af and high af and high as I write this? Fucking stoned, dude. You know that IJ Ken Erdedy type-shit? I need a fucking hug. I need to embrace the new sincerity. 3 weeks ago I thought of making a post like this, and I even wrote a word doc about it, a couple thousand words, and now I feel like a dick for even mentioning this and cringing at the thought of this stream of consciousness wank-job.

Should I post that?

Basically, as i'm working my way up the western "grekker" cannon, and i'm wondering (ironic [what does it even mean])]]] just a lonely bisexual fuck.

I'm developing theories that I cringe and refuse to revisit and learn about the next day btw.

Oh btw I have a five-time-revised 130000 coming of age novel and i love judd apatow.

Also im thinking about copypastas after that last line

And i have an even better unpublished novella murder mystery

Onee person i showed said i should screenwrite.

the other person said nothing.

should i post that?

im a finance major that wishes he was english and doesnt know and hav egf.

help

PIC HEAVILY RELATED
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What?
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DUDE
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>>8205363
DUDE... IS IT YOU? ARE YOU ME? seriously though, sincerely, is it you. i want to open up. are u like me

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