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box of hugs edition (not to be confused with a hug box)

• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
• Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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pure thread no degeneracy allowed!
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>>8344568
Maeve makes the B E S T threadz
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>>8344550
But it is exclusively Sailor Moon pics so it is completely different silly :P
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>>8344584
hugg
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Degeneracy thread
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>>8344584
Am I doing it right? I'm thinking of smoking a cigar nice and hard
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>>8344590
>>>/out/
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>>8344579
puts sound deadening headphones on.
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>>8344583

>No degeneracy allowed
>Posts a Catholic
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>tfw no internet gf/bf
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>monster hunter XX just announced for switch
Who hype here???
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>>8344604
Protestant or Orthodox?
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>>8344604
1 v 1 me after confession in the pews faggot
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>>8344595
um uh where do you get those pics?because um they're kind of make me want to smoke cigars and stuff.
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>>8344599
:^)
>>8344604
Catholicism is the one true Christianity desu
>>8344579
This thread is a no honking zone
>>8344610
Iktf
>>8344611
>owning a Switch
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>>8344541
best I've ever done
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>>8344619
Where do I find an internet gf/bf
Being a lonely gay sucks
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>>8344600
>>8344619

honk u
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>>8344614
>being a protestant whore

delte this post and repent immediately
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helloh
so i've been on bica for almost a week now and i love it. my titties are all sensitive and tingly and i have none of the shitty spiro side-effects lol
plus i feel like my BPD symptoms are waaaaaay easier to manage cause my hormone fluctuations aren't as severe.
i guess cause the half-life on bica is like 5~7 days or some crazy shit? it's beautiful. idk why everyone doesn't take dis.
also hi hru girls doing?
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>>8344619
>not owning a switch
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>>8344611
>anything for Nintendo
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>>8344628
>implying I am
I was asking to gauge how much of a heretic they were.
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>>8344625
I wanna know too
Internet or irl bf or gf is someone I need ;-;
>>8344633
I already fell for the Nintendo meme with the Wii U
I'm not falling for it again
>>8344627
reeeeeeee
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>>8344630
That sounds pretty good, what's the downside to bica?
I wanna stop peeing all the dammn time wtf
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>>8344636
>tfw the pope is a cuck and will never declare a crusade against isis
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>>8344636
.... you're alright be me zna
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>>8344630
Nothing but giving up
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>>8344595
bad idea. Ladies don't smoke cigars.

>>8344627
What was that?
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>>8344636
>tfw xena would call you a heretic
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>>8344625
Be lonely ace instead :P

(I home the mones don't give me sexual urges...)
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>>8344640
the downside is that your T comes back
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>>8344630
is it making ur tiddies bigger?? idk what it is really
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>>8344638
Nintendo went to ahit after game cube
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>>8344619
>>8344635
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>>8344641
It's been argued by sedevacantists that Vatican 2 fucked the church, after all, jewish infiltrators were found at it.
>>8344642
Aww thanks.
>>8344648
Depends on your denomination~.
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>>8344657
It looks like a fun game tho
I'm just memeing ya
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>>8344611
WAIT WHAT
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH ORDERING A SWITCH RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
>checks youtube and its not confirmed for US still
Ok maybe slightly less hype now
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>>8344630
yeah what..? also, hey dolly, How's being on the path of exile going?

>>8344638
Outside of internet sex work, being rich, or having good MMR in videogames, it's hard to find people ;_;

>>8344649
>Be lonely ace instead :P
I mean I'm practically there. Having a responsive libido is not fun :(

>>8344657
>Buying into the console exclusives meme
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>>8344659
nonreligious. aka heretic.
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>>8344645
it was me u silly goose
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>>8344664
Heathen, not heretic. Don't worry, I'm not really religious anymore. And when I was I was baptized a proddy heretic, sooo. Eh, at least the baptism's considered valid, if I remember correctly.
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>>8344547
ive never had a relationship before either but like roleplay is hot but if he still hates you and thinks you're a disgusting faggot after sex is done whats even the point being around him is just going to be miserable
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>>8344668
>not hereti
but i used to be a roman catholic. im jewdicked and was baptised and everything.
>tfw was never an altar boy kneeling down under the priests robe like a good catholic
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>>8344652
>rs3
LOL
>>8344663
ey i bought a ps4 for bloodborne. im too lazy to play nioh and let it die.
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>>8344640

the same as cypro when it comes to the possibility of liver toxicity, and it will give you a male sex drive. otherwise das it.
it works for me, anyways. spiro was horrible for me.
the constant peeing as well as salt cravings and the blood pressure lowering aspects made me all exhausted nonstop.
and i woke up every morning feeling SUPER dehydrated and sluggish no matter how much water i drank and idk.

>>8344644

so the usual then huh?

>>8344652

idk my tits are super tingly and i haven't felt that in months so it's def doing something

>>8344663

it's been good! i spend more time doing things that are good for me w/ my friendships and life rather than just wasting time posting here.
i still like checking in on ya'll tho like once a week. how are you doing bb?
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>>8344664
REMOVE HEATHEN
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>>8344673
Eh, not *either* then. Just a lapsed Christian. Also, being circumsized isn't required to be a Christian.
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real talk all abrahamic religions are fucking stupid. just be a fucking good person why do you need to believe ur going to heaven to fuck a bunch of angels or whatever. idk anything about eastern religions and they seem kinda chill so i left them out
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>>8344630
It's weird how testosterone spikes male you feel better and estrogen makes you feel worse
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>>8344682
cuz some people aren't good people and they need the fear of eternal damnation and torture to be nice
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>>8344681
THEN WHY DID THEY DO IT TO ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I WANT MY FORSKIN BACK
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>>8344682
I want to be a crusader ironically, killing muslims and driving them from our lands should be the number 1 priority of all 1st world countries right now
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>>8344688
shaking my head at you lass desu
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>>8344640
Upside, it's great for binding to the androgen receptors responsible for prostate cancer and has almost no side effects

downside it spikes your T and other androgens, fucks with the DNA processing of the cell lining of other non related things, and isn't an anti androgen (it's more like a catalyst for t), just an inhibitor
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>>8344688
remove kebab
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>>8344682
This is correct.
Agnosting feels good.
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>>8344640
>what's the downside to bica?
can't monitor your testosterone levels. it blocks testosterone at the androgen receptor instead of preventing it from being made in the first place, so you'll have normal-high testosterone levels even if the t isn't doing anything.
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>>8344687
I don't *know*. Maybe you had phimosis at birth or something? I know the high rates in the US are the result of a Protestant anti-masturbation campaign, but I don't know why you'd be circumsized in Canada, especially so as a Catholic.
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>>8344688
hey im nice muslim. that's not nice words
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>>8344663
I bought the switch for the hardware not the games desu
>can play on the tv
>can play on the bus
>can play on a table with your friends
>can play all snug in bed
Literally the best console ever

>>8344682
Judaism isn't too bad. After all the Jews rule the world
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>>8344688
Oh, also this.
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>>8344685

lol it raises your T but blocks the binding of it so that it doesn't work. sorry if i'm not trutrans enough for you sir, i'm non-binary after all
this works tho till i get an orchi and it's considered the precursor to it in the same way that lupron is so i'm likin it.
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>>8344678
I'll never look female
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>>8344678
>>8344691
>>8344695
How would it affect my hair? I might need a change of AA cause of my heart.
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>>8344688
same. asl?
>>8344696
is phyimosis really that bad? i just think my dick would look so much cuter with skin :(
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>>8344677
bloodborne 2 when

>>8344678
I literally have nothing to do and I'm so fucking bored already. I finished my semester and did really well, trying to find a job for the summer. No one in IT/tech around my area is hiring for temp positions apparently. I'm not ready to sell my soul to retail. Outside of that I'm still a lonely gay. Glad to hear you're doing well and have moved out of here, you never really realize how terrible this general is until you stop coming here

>>8344698
>I bought the switch for the hardware not the games desu
>Buying a buggy new release console with plenty of hardware failures
Can't you do that with a 3ds though..?
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>>8344695
Kinda sorta, and only works in certain areas
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>>8344706
Depends on the severity. It really can be.
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>>8344698
>Judaism isn't too bad
senpai....
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>>8344711
that fucking pic lol
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>>8344677
>let it die.
i played this an unhealthy amount when it came out. i haven't touched it since there's been no new floors, but goddamn. It was a fucking trip playing that game. I was retardly obsessed with it for some reason to the point where I was starting to fail school for a bit
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>>8344704

who cares? life isn't about being the perfect personification of womanhood or femininity, whatever that means.

>>8344705

it blocks some DHT, but not all of it, and some studies have concluded that since it raises the T even tho there's less T available, it could fuck with MPD.
so you'd want to take like finasteride or dutasteride if that's a problem for you already.

>>8344708

do you think you might try to get work online or somethin? is that a thing you can do? i'm kind of ignorant to how location factors into IT jobs even tho i know some places are meccas for it.
and ya whenever i actually read the posts here and the blatant animosity and toxicity it makes me anxious lol
people here are such shit. mtfg is kind of a pit that just has some worthwhile people wading through the quicksand.
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>>8344583
>>8337795
>remove chaser
Explain this shit.

You've turned 180 degrees since my last stay in /mtfg/.

Before:
>like chasers
>be sweet to me

After:
>remove chaser
>"accidentally" fail to respond to my posts 4 times in a row

Why? I didn't do anything to deserve loss of your sympathy... because I wasn't even here when it happened! So what happened? What have I done wrong? Has HRT made you frigid and heartless?

I'm NOT entitled to your sympathy. But I am entitled to your honesty.
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>>8344702
It only binds to LNCaP tumorous receptors (and one other kind that slips my mind) , it also doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, so the brain reshaping and changes that happen on traditional estrogen and anti androgen will not occur because Testosterone beats estrogen when present.

Aka you feel better on testosterone
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>>8344718
>whenever i actually read the posts here and the blatant animosity and toxicity it makes me anxious lol
>people here are such shit. mtfg is kind of a pit that just has some worthwhile people wading through the quicksand.
omg. this is like very good way of describing how i feel too
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>>8344718
I guess I'll have to talk to my doc about AA options other than spiro. I don't even know how serious my heart palpitations are, or if it's just a benign thing that means I need to go eat some salt or some shit.
I get the feeling it's related to that, especially cause it happens way less on a lower spiro dose.
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>>8344705
You'd lose hair from a massive spike in testosterone and it literally only blocking specific receptors, and one of those isn't the ones that would prevent hair loss
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>>8344678
>>8337026
I thought you disappeared from /mtfg/.

The last time I was here, some hateful anon was spreading your photoshopped pictures in other threads.
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>>8344708
never.
>>8344717
looks p good im just too lazy to set up my ps4.
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>>8344724
lupron shots are the alternative, no doctor would give you bica under any circumstances, it's extremely expensive though
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>>8344721
>it also doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, so the brain reshaping and changes that happen on traditional estrogen and anti androgen will not occur because Testosterone beats estrogen when present.
Actually bicalutamide crosses the human blood brain barrier, it just doesn't cross the rat one. Hence the confusion.
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>>8344732
Please provide where it's drug profile says it doesn't
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>>8344730
>no doctor would give you bica under any circumstances
Why?
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>>8344718
That's accurate. Online coding jobs are usually a thing a company does after you have worked there x amount of time / proven that you're not incompetent as far as I know really. I live in bum-fuck middle of nowhere Indiana so it's not like many IT jobs exist in the first place. Time to find a sugar daddy chaser i guess
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>>8344720
i think you're v confused. I have *never* liked chasers and always thought they shouldn't be here trans attracted males are okay as long as they aren't hostile or annoying. but chases are literally human refuse that should be exterminated. chasers are:

>thinks trannies are meat to be fucked and discarded
>abusive
>manipulative
>controlling
>often repressed trannies
>ashamed of dating trans
>usually in the closet
>will pump and dump and go for a cis girl
>usually fat unattractive man children or losers mostly a combination of all
>only date trans for the girl dick and want to be topped

trans attracted guys usually don't fit those and are more or less normal guys that don't really care if a girl is trans or not and will treat her like any one else.

if your the former to die. of ur the latter then I really dont have any issue with you. I just sometimes dont reply or miss a post
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How to get /mtfg/ chaser?
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>>8344708
3ds doesn't have any local multiplayer and you can't (easily) plug it into your tv. And I haven't had any issues with it being buggy, worst thing is it treats the controllers like a set, so you can't have like one on the screen and one off, so if you don't slide them back on properly it will keep acting up, but all you gotta do is make sure they're clicked in properly.
Overall it's pretty nice would recommend

>>8344711
wtf I hate Jews now?
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>>8344736
Idk about "under any circumstances", but it's officially not recommended for use as an AA. Idk if it's even FDA approved.
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>>8344741
talk to them its pretty easy desu
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>>8344729
it's either a game you like or hate a lot. the powerups, mushrooms, which are extremely helpful, have been nerfed a lot so i don't think i could play it again. You used to be able to send fighters off to grab tons of mushrooms to prepare for a boss fight while you played another game or something, but they turned the spawn rate way down.

I'm talking the mushrooms can make you retarded op. Between mushrooms and decals(permanent powerups for a fighter), people were getting insane damage multiplyers and killing the hardest enemies in the game in one hit.

I was able to beat the final boss without taking any damage, which isn't supposed to really happen in a f2p game where they make money off people reviving more or less
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>>8344697
are you going to jihadi /mtfg/ so you get 70 virgins?!
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>>8344736
because its not researched as much or whatever and not used in trans care except for if its absolutely necessary like you can't take other aas. the only reason so many people shill it on here is because someone read wikipedia or something and thought it will make your dick keep working then it became a meme. its like the SERMS or whatever where people talk about them all the time here like its normal but in reality there were like 2 people actually taking them
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>>8344747
might like it, im a soulsy retard and idk it looks ok
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>>8344746
i think i kind of found a chaser here that I was talking to on discord, but he just seems like a normal bi-curious guy to me desu. hopefullly i get chaser bf
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>>8344721

half of what you're saying has been disproven, and this is reading like you're getting your information off of wikipedia lol
you should read up on newer studies that show the effects on rats vs humans and how factoring estrogen into the treatment works out.

>>8344723

that's just how i feel about it tho idk, i'm sure not everyone feels that way. for me it's just likeeee
if i wanted to be surrounded by toxic miserable ppl i wouldn't be coming to a community with ppl similar to me yknow?

>>8344724

i got heart palpitations as well on spiro so i def get what you're talking about. i just... did not like it at all.
more doctors are prescribing bica these days but faye is right in that lupron is still better if you can afford it.

>>8344728

i don't really come here because of what i've been stating in my posts tonight. the hierarchy here and the miserable posters are just...idk
it's too much for me. i realize that as someone with BPD i'm more sensitive to just about everything and i'm more reactionary because of it.
so surrounding myself by shitty miserable people who do nothing but try to fuck with other ppl doesn't really help much.

>>8344738

;_; well shit! they don't have internships or anything? an ex of mine did that and he doesn't live in a super hip IT area but idk
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>>8344736
Off label usage of a drug that will make all your symptoms worse, it would be malpractice
>>8344732
I saw one old study where they suggested it did

So you have basic biochemistry which says that there is no way it will, and one study saying that the testosterone spike is so huge and dose dependent that it could, but note that no extensive research says it does, and the laws of chemistry and tons of research says it doesn't, this is an outlier grasping at why humans experience T spikes on it
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>the most AGP tranny here who calls himself a guy constantly is the arbitrator of who and who isnt trans
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>>8344748
no bc it'll be all of u
>>8344750
a lot of people don't like the clunky combat, but i didn't mind it. Superficially, it feels like a souls game, but 200 hours in, it doesn't even cross your mind. The whole univerise and stuff is what drawed me in. it used to have a really good community on /vg/ and /r/letitdie, but the devs pretty much are focused on japan now and don't care about rice land america anymore
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>>8344752
>i got heart palpitations as well on spiro so i def get what you're talking about
You too????
How did you deal with it? It started a few months ago for me and I don't really know what to do about it.
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>>8344758
>arbitrator
i felt like this was about me until i read that
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>dollface is on bica
>suddenly faye is crusading against it
rlly fires ur neurons
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>>8344760
devs shouldnt listen to americans anyways
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>>8344758

i was kind of wondering this as well desu lol
like why does it even matter in general? this is the kind of shit i'm talking about. people here are miserable.
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>>8344752
>>8344709
Please summarize this for me

Tell me what it says to you

You're shelling meme drugs that will hurt people because you're in a bpd rage rn


Spiro is shit, people should be on low dose cypro or lupron but that shit isn't an AA
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>>8344764
my almonds are certainly rumbled
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>>8344766
>people here are miserable.
Understatement right there
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>>8344758
who is this directed at. cause im the most agp desu
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>>8344730
Leuprolide? Really?
I could get bica cheap if I wanted to since it's basically the product my brother's pushing here in this shit country.

Endo gave me a combo of spiro and cypro. Something about shutting down adrenal testosterone and testicular testosterone and that would allow me to use a lower dosage of E. It's not an mtfg approved meme, but I guess she knows what she's doing.
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Stop replying to Faye
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>>8344771
faye
faye is the worst
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>>8344775
this
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>>8344764
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>>8344765
the game was released in the west, mainly america, about four months or so before it was released in japan in febuary of this year. So westerners were basically like beta testers. It was truly a shit show. California basically dominated the game, but then Tokyo actually competed with them. The numbers have went way down in the west since they've not released new floors, which I doubt they're doing at this point. THey've been just adding new content and enemies,
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>>8344740
If chasers were all that you wrote, trans women wouldn't call people "chasers" for nothing more than preferring dick girls and having sex drive...

>i think you're v confused. I have *never* liked chasers
>if your the former to die. of ur the latter then I really dont have any issue with you. I just sometimes dont reply or miss a post
B-b-but... you promised to be my guardian and protectress!!!

>sometimes
100% of time is not "sometimes".
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>>8344761

i started taking low-dose aspirin and that sort of helped?? but honestly there wasn't a whole lot i could do other than lower my spiro dose lol
which required me to be on injectable estrogen because the potency basically beat my testosterone into submission.
and because of my BPD, hormone fluctuations that severe trigger my moods, and it was just... bad. on bica i can just take normal E and be fine while feminizing.
i'm not sure if there's really a fix with the heart palpitations other than living a healthy lifestyle and all that. if it continues you should really talk to a doctor.

>>8344764

i'm glad i'm not the only one noticing this insanity lol. like nim and pandora and a few other girls were the ones who helped me get on it. and now this.

>>8344768

? are you reading your own posts? i feel perfectly normal, meanwhile you're having an aneurism over me taking a med you dislike.
bica is literally an anti-androgen, it's just a nonsteroidal one which alone doesn't affect secondary sex characteristics other than gyno.
that doesn't mean it can't work with E. it took me hours to find all of the research i did about it.
i'm not gonna do that again because you're on the warpath and hate me and look for any reason to fight. seek professional help.

>>8344770

seriously
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>>8344775
What she's saying makes sense, except the part about spiro not being an AA.

It's just that it just shuts down adrenal testosterone production. Which is like only where 30% of testorenone comes from.
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>>8344781
u played nioh?
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>>8344768
Jesus all this conflicting drug talk is scaring me. I just want me tit tacs, not raging paranoia about weather I might have a heart attack or not :(
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>>8344782
well then since you aren't a chaser ill keep you safe and protected. lol missing posts isn't something exclusive to you when im posting from work ill miss tons from everyone

and I just replied to 2 of them so it's not 100%
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>>8344761
I could spell out that you're taking a med that lowers blood pressure, and low blood pressure is linked to the PVCs you're having, and that you could get another med to treat this, pay for lupron, or lower your dose

Tell your doc

He's supposed to tell you to quit if this is happening regularly
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>>8344788
I couldn't beat nioh
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>>8344730
Lupron is massively more expensive than Bica. That's why I used Medroxyprogesterone-acetate for awhile. It's much cheaper, being the same as the birth control shot Depo Provera. Plenty of generics, and easy manufacture.

>>8344735
>doesn't
what?

>>8344745
It may not have aproval for MtF transition use, but neither does Spironolactone. A doc can prescribe any FDA approved drug for any condition. They just usually don't. In fat I don't think there are any AAs approved for transition use by the FDA. All that are used are used off-label, which is legal.

>>8344756
My best guess why humans get a T spike on bica is because it ends up blocking the receptors used to determine T level in the body. A fun thing is in some people I've seen their estrogen level rise, then level out in the normal female range. At that point their T level also stops rising. Not everybody produced enough aromatase to convert the excess T to E. No I haven't seen any research on this, but I have seen T & E levels for three people who did this. From the research studies I've seen on Bica, it's maybe around 50% of the population will do this.

My guess is because all three T, P and E regulating pathways are active in everybody. If any of them gets high enough it slows or even shuts off hormone production in the testis or ovaries. This is also why the high E&P I was on the first time I transitioned worked.
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>>8344786
When I brought it up to my doctor they halved my spiro dose to 50mg and wanted to get my T into cis girl ranges. My palpitations almost entirely stopped. I'll have to meet with them again soon.
>>8344792
>He's supposed to tell you to quit if this is happening regularly
See above, halved spiro dose not sure if it's connected to spiro or not. I'll try to see them soon and figure out what the next step is.
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>>8344776
oh. i didn't see anything about her saying someone isn't trans today but i guess i wasn't really paying attn and she has done that in the past so
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>>8344790
protip: never reply to or read a post with the name faye or jaye attached to it. he is an infamous liar and an all around scummy person that likes to pretend to be knowledgeable (he isn't) and friendly (he definitely isn't)

avoid and ignore at all costs
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>>8344788
i played a shit ton of the betas, but I've not got around to buying it yet. Im kind of iffy about it because i hear it has repetitive enemies even though the Japanese setting enticed me in the demo,

and the ogress left a bad taste in my mouth buit it was probably nothing
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>>8344790
Dollface is pretty dangerous with her hormones, go to your doctor and cross reference your drugs with trans health care treatment manuals online, if you self med, go by the European treatment manuals.


do not let someone hurt you, there are many schizophrenic/bpd/psychopaths here that try this every once in a while.
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>>8344799
see >>8344685
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>>8344790
spiro is fine. cyrpo is maybe a bit better but spiro is completely fine too
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>>8344803
lol
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>>8344796
i have faith in u.
>>8344802
im considering buying it cause i miss soulsy shhit but in sayin that i havent even bothered with seocnd ds3 dlc lol
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>>8344798
It's a symptom of spiro use, and low blood pressure, talk to them about the possibility of you having low blood pressure and it causing the pvc's (flutters)

This is why they start by slowly building people up on spiro to see if this will happen as in older patients it's possibly (rarely) deadly
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>>8344786
I just started injections today. Holy shit it's painful. Still hurts. Spiro makes me sick, so I'm trying to order cypro with bitcoin but the price dropped so I'm short until new coins arrive Friday. Literally 4 dollars short. So stupid. I'm hoping that at 12.5mg I'll be okay. The injection is awesome for my mood though at least so far.

I was self messing 7mg estrogen a day just to not get swings.

I feel like most trans women are way too coward with their meds desu. Lots settle for low t and low e. I want no t and high e and sustained without spikes
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LETS SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13043815
http://www.strawpoll.me/13043815
http://www.strawpoll.me/13043815
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WE WILL ABIDE BY THE RESULTS
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>>8344796
>tfw couldn't beat darkeater midir
fuck dark souls 3. i almost fucking died ng+5 beating the final dlc boss in the second dlc when the first dlc's last boss was easy as shit
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>>8344774
>and that would allow me to use a lower dosage of E
Get your E2 level up to 200-300pg/mL for transition. Also make sure the E2 to E1 (estrone) ratio is good. To much E1 blocks E2 from working. E1 is roughly 10% as good as E2 for feminization. Pills taked sublingual or orally can have to short of duration spikes, and E1 gets to high.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5GqH5rA-mckc1I2Zlh0X2VZX2s/view
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>get call from Microsoft about someone's email issues
>they know all the details so definitely not a scammer
>ask me to go to their website and download a program to give them access to my pc
>for an email issue
>that someone else was having
>gets annoyed when I won't
Are Indian call centre workers so used to running scams they do it even when working a legitimate job?
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>>8344791
I feel slightly safer now...
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>>8344811
I'll remember the low blood pressure thing. I don't think they get an accurate reading of my blood pressure when I go in because I'm always anxious going to a doctor's office, so my heart rate and pressure is way up.
I'm only on 100mg, so hopefully it wont be deadly.
>>8344816
This new estrone thing I'm hearing about is scary.
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>>8344804
She has a specific symptom that she admits to having that would be agrivated by estrogen, and I found it interesting that she spiked her t with bicca and felt better
>>8344801
Faye has had biochem and does her research outside Wikipedia

You are a waitress who I'm not sure passed highschool
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>>8344816
how do you get e1 tested
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>>8344815
i havent even tried, no motivation
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>>8344813
Will an endo even do that for you?
Like can I ask them to just give me shit loads of E and AA's?
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>>8344798

ya, 50mg of spiro with 10mg of injectable estrogen once a week was the dosage i was on for a really long while and worked well for me.
being on 100mg gave me infrequent heart palpitations, tons of salt cravings, lethargy, and a feeling of extreme dehydration in the morning.
spiro is just fucking awful as an AA. if you can't afford lupron, you could totally get on cypro while getting blood work done!
it works really well for most people. i just don't take it because i have a history of depression and i don't want to feel mega suicidal etc lol

>>8344803

are you literally ok lol
so many girls here have recommended bica before me which is how i got on it, and now you're going INSANE over me saying it works for me personally. like jfc

>>8344813

injections are reallllly great honestly, prob second only to like...pellets. cypro is great too.
but you should really get your bloodwork done and monitor your levels and general health while you're on mones that strong.
don't drink or smoke and make sure to eat right and exercise as well. you really want to minimize all of the negative side effects as best as you can.
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>>8344810
it made me so angry. the last boss is unbelievably fucking hard compared to the rest of dark souls 3. I'm wasn't even going in, dying, then doing it again. I would try it by myself a few times, almost get it, then fail. Then summon numerous people, play accordingly with them, they eventually die, then i die due to the bloated health. Usually in Dark Souls 3, if a boss is hard, you summon someone and it becomes considerably easier, but not the second dlc bosses at least. It usually just bloats the heatlh to insane levels if someone dies during the fight
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>>8344821
That's actually a real thing, your symptoms and medication should help him realize that your anxiety about what's happening and being there is affecting you <3
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>>8344786
>heart palpitations
Check thyroid levels. If off, get E2 & P levels both into a normal ratio to each other. This is even a problem for cis women. E&P out of balance can throw the thyroid off in some people, and heart and other issues can happen.
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Is it bad that I want to transition because I want to be a girl when I kill myself

I may or may not be having a depressive episode rn from hormones
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>>8344798
you need more salt in your diet and drink more water.

your doc should get your electrolytes checked out, out of balance electrolytes can cause leg cramps, heart palpitations or crazy mood swings.

i don't know much about chemistry but this is what my endo told me.
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>>8344814
Damn, can't do this shit on a moving train. :/

>>8344815
Dark Souls is made for masochists. If you don't like the pain of loss, stop playing. I love the crushing pain of realizing how fucked I am for the next several hours.

>>8344821
How are you today, Grace?
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>>8344830
>summoning
ew.
i havent fought it but i will try one day and probably hate it too.
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>>8344829
I'm glad I have trump to point to when some argues against science with "so many cam whores recommend this, I'm told it's the best, science is anti dollface, only I tell the truth"

I always always always tell people that spiking your T and losing your hair from mpb, fucking with your brain and masculinizing it, and increasing your libido is insanely stupid
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so i guess faye being a psychotic middle aged predator hasn't really mellowed out since i've been gone then huh lol
idk why i just kind of figured that if i wasn't here things would mellow out for everyone but i guess that wasn't the case
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>>8344798
See >>8344832
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>>8344831
Thanks ^^
>>8344829
I'm scared of doing injections but I'd really like to stop being lethargic and dehydrated and stuff.
Bluh.
Cypro causes depression?
>>8344836
I drink plenty of water but probably don't ingest enough salt. I usually have a gatorade a day tho and that's got a ton of sodium in it. What are some good sources of salt???
>>8344838
Eh, I've not been the best. How are you?
>>8344844
Is P progesterone?
>>8344843
>idk why i just kind of figured that if i wasn't here things would mellow out for everyone but i guess that wasn't the case
Drama never changes
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>>8344834
I can relate, actually. I have a rather strong thing where I want my body to look good and look like me when I kms. So I spend a lot of time thinking of methods that are most likely to assist with that.
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>>8344843
hell no. he's become by far the worst poster in mtfg history, surpassing Drake and potc by a huge margin.

Being universally hated first not stop him from posting no matter how much everyone wants him gone he's an entitled male intruding on a female space

so no you aren't the only one annoyed. we just can't do anything about it
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>>8344845
Similar. Dealing with a lot of relationship stuff that's had me pretty depressed. What's wrong on your end?
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>>8344832
I mean she's taking a drug whose side effect is heart palpitations
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>>8344752
>because of what i've been stating in my posts tonight.
Sadly I wasn't here, so I don't know what it was about.

>the hierarchy here
THIS.

At least they don't ban people like they used to, for nothing more than not quacking like everyone else.

I like you. You like different things than I do but you're a sensible, pretty and sweet girl.
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>>8344825
Sure, but most are bigots and the ones who aren't don't give a fuck what you want. Enjoy your Spiro and don't sue us, weirdo is the paradigm. I've hopped clinics a half dozen times even in new york to get proper care.


>>8344829
Cannot agree with the fuck spironolactone as an AA agenda enough. It's dreadful, and cumulative. I skipped it for 2 weeks, started growing my beard, took it once and had all the same side effects I was skipping it for (nausea, lethargy, apathy, lack of focus, disgusting amounts of pissing, head aches, dizzy, ETC.

>>8344829
(re: my (you))
Yeah, I'm with planned parenthood. I'm smarter than any tranny to walk through their doors thus far and I'm actually going to be giving the local 2 clinics a few seminars about trans care. They're so new to the game they gave me a sheet list of vaginoplasty surgeons. I called 3 of the 8 and all 3 were like wtf we don't do gender reassignment.... we do vaginoplasty. the 3rd had a hilarious secretary "we don't tighten pee holes". so suffice to say, even the bleeding edge isn't good enough for me in America.

50 t 200 e(uhhhg I think idk don't quote me) as of last week I believe they said today.

>>8344836

I almost literally died in October when I was fucking around with salt levels from over hydrating and excersizing (like to a fucktarded level of self abandonment).
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>>8344850
>What's wrong on your end?
>Dealing with a lot of relationship stuff that's had me pretty depressed.
But I've been talking with Kari a lot which has been keeping me happy, and I got my special edition of Fire Emblem fates in way faster than I was supposed to, so that was a neat surprise too.
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>>8344845
I just use more salt, desu.

I just put a tiny pinch of salt into any water I'm drinking.

I did the gatorade thing for a while but it also has potassium. I avoid high potassium foods and use more salt in my cooking and drinking water.

I drink about 2-3 quarts of water a day. but Edie is right about that parched/dehydrated feeling in the morning.

i don't know Grace, sometimes I get the impression it's a trial and error thing until you find a balance specific for your body.
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i want things to be good
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aw queen elizabeth meeting up with the (mostly tweenage girls) melts my heart
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-26/queen-visits-victims-of-wicked-manchester-attack/8560600
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>>8344858
One last super important thing, spiro does weird things to potassium (causes a build up in some people) and that can cause the same symptoms (and also be dangerous as in this article of a woman who had that symptom and nearly died from it )
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>>8344838
im done with them all. I've beat them all already. The main game of Dark Souls 3 was a joke and a cake walk. It even pissed me off how easy and anti-climatic some of the bosses were. i think the only one i had any toruble with was pontiff. I don't know why bc the prince fight is easy.

Also, after a while of dying to the same boss over and over again, losing loses any mean whatsoever. Plus, it was dlc so my like 3 million souls at the time didn't matter or not if i lost them
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>>8344845

well injections, because of their potency, have been shown in most ppl to lower T in the same way that 8mg+ of E pills used to be used lots for trans patients to feminize them.
so they definitely do allow you to get more feminization while being on a lower dose of an AA. but you still def do need an AA, so the 50mg of spiro or a switch would be good.
and yeah, cypro has been shown to cause depression in most people who take it. primarily those predisposed to it.
that happens with dutasteride as well which is why i only take it every other day. it's hella strong.

>>8344847

welp rip lol. idk i just want everyone to be happy and stuff and that's the only reason i post here occasionally now when i do.
i literally came here to post about how happy i was because my tits were sensitive again and bica works for me and i did that cause the girls here helped recommend it to me etc
and then all this. like wtf. it is what it is tho i guess idk

>>8344853

well ty ;_; i like you as well anon. you seem like a kindhearted person.

>>8344855

>"we don't tighten pee holes"
SCREAM
WTF DOES THAT MEAN??? and 200 E isn't so bad from everything i know! are you trying to get those skyrocketing injectable E results?
i swear some ppl get into the thousands or some shit
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>>8344858
One of my coworkers is big into Fire Emblem. She seemed pretty stoked about the new release. Sorry to hear you're dealing with relationship problems too, senpai. Really tears a bitch up.

>>8344843
Is Faye middle-aged?
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>>8344847
i love Faye, this isn't true.

She's a genuine sweetheart and a good friend.

stop spreading these awful rumours.
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>>8344858
>fire emblem fates
>holding a copy of fire emblem echoes
Cool shit though, I didn't bother getting the CE this time.
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>>8344855
>I've hopped clinics a half dozen times even in new york to get proper care

Tfw my city only has one endo so I hope they are good
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>>8344853
>>8344752
>for nothing more than not quacking like everyone else.
Or a better description: for not dancing to their tune.

>>8344869
>well ty ;_; i like you as well anon. you seem like a kindhearted person.
*hug*
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>>8344871

depends on the time of day you ask her basically. she tells ppl a diff age depending on her mood.

>>8344876

>mfw
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>>8344867
Disappointing to hear 3 was easy. I haven't had a chance to play it yet, but I was really looking forward to it. I dunno, I like bosses that take time to beat. I remember I took a while to beat Final Hazard in Sonic 2 Battle, and I heard years later that FH is considered one of the harder bosses in gaming.
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>>8344863
>>8344866
What are the symptoms of potassium and sodium issues? I need to be able to know which is the issue at the time so I can get more of either.
>>8344874
I DONT KNOW GURL THEY JUST PUT A FUCKIN WORD AFTER FIRE EMBLEM FOR EVERY RELEASE I MIX IT UP SOMETIMES
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee im dumb dont bully
>>8344869
Have you tried patches? I was thinking about switching to those before you were tellin me about injections.
>so the 50mg of spiro or a switch would be good.
Really sounds like it so far
>and yeah, cypro has been shown to cause depression in most people who take it. primarily those predisposed to it.
Probably gonna make me depressed then, I struggle trying to stay afloat as is
>>8344871
I like Awakening, I'm gonna put on a youtube vid to listen to and go looking/cleaning in hopes of finding it
>Really tears a bitch up.
Really does. I dunno what to do.
Anything I can help you with, at least?
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>>8344866
Not really accurate. It just fails to secrete it as much as it secretes other stuff. Its a potassium sparing diuretic, which means you'll pee and pee and need to replace the urinated and secretes electrolytes etc. The spiro itself doesn't cause a build up, it's the over consumption of potassium and the inability to piss it out at the same rate as everything else that can cause it. You'd have to be SO FUCKING RETARDED to even get remotely close to that. Like orders of magnitude of stupidity like hurrr potatoes fries fat ass bullshit bananas and diet pills hurrr

>>8344869
Dutasteride? Also thoughts on progesterone? (re my you); Uhh no, I think I'm on just 10
100ml or maybe 10 or some shit I forget it's so new like I only looked at the bottle a little I was more concerned with learning injection methodology than working out the drug potency factor - but it's not a lot. Every 2 weeks. Depending on my levels we'll reevaluate in 3 months.
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>>8344883
i mean, of course, it'll be different for you, but I don't think I'm that good at souls games. Mediocre at best, and i just found the bosses in 3 to be underwelmingly easy.
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>>8344872
>brags about being rich
>laughs at girls less fortunate than him
>scorns poor people that have to work for a living
>constantly saying how much better than everyone else he is


normally I just ignore you posts but please get that dick out of your mouth this is full on delusion. none of that is a "rumor" it's documented facts that are as simple as looking through an archive

but okay I'm "spreading rumors" evaluate his constant shit behavior of a spoiled child doesn't fit your he's perfect narrative. I wish both of you would fuck off permanently tbqh. mtfg would improve substantially
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>>8344872
I don't make my living being trained to be pleasing, I've done it by being extremely good at statistics and proving hypothesis with data, unfortunately I'm a little passionate about not hurting people, and a little outspoken when I see an obvious mental illness at play.

It works for the psych I'm dating we go over interactions with people all the time for hours and it's kinda cute, but it's bad when it's someone who should be in therapy, they just never take personal accountability for themselves until they hit rock bottom or are forced to by the state
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>>8344864
same
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>>8344884
Depends on if you're leaning towards hypo or hyper. Sodium related issues are by and far way too many to list but..

Potassium issues.. If you're too low you'll get muscle pains in your extremities. If you're too high your heart and muscles will feel tight a lot and you are at a major risk for a cardiac arrest.

Generally you'll be able to "feel" off. Obey your food cravings, if you want to suck down a jar of pickles and then eat mcdonalds for 4 days then eat more salt.
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>>8344884
Do you lose vision (slow to go from dim to bright), do you get dizzy, do you have muscle spasams?
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>>8344884
Grace you're probably fine, but next meet up with your doc you should probably ask him about getting your electrolytes checked before reducing or going off of spiro.
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>>8344893

Faye will you please fuck me? I'm a qt girl.
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>>8344884
THIS TIME IT WAS LIKE A BUNCH OF WORDS THO
GL finding your Awakening copy, you better not pick a shitty husbando though! (Granted, all of them are shitty next to Tharja aka best waifu...)
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I'm feeling really depressed and I just can't get rid of that nagging voice telling me that no matter what I'll never be a real girl and that I should just make it easier on myself and kill myself.

Fun times mates. Real fun.
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>>8344884

i was gonna do patches actually, i've been doing E pills just cause i already have them but i've been wanting to try patches for awhile
they're just ridiculously expensive which always turns me off to them. it's like...buying something fancy and hoping you don't like it
like if patches work great for me then i'm gonna be paying a ton of money for them forever even tho it'll be wonderful lmaaaao
i've heard patches are really great for E2 especially but that you literally need two high dose patches to get the equivalent of 4mg pills
which is insane
do you think there's any way for you to get on lupron? it would be expensive but it lasts like 3~6 months so it wouldn't be like a constant thing necessarily

>>8344887

dutasteride is a DHT blocker. it's basically the stronger version of finasteride. and i like prog as long as you have an E dominant system.
but the side effects that come with it (like increased risk of DVT and a prolactinoma etc) are a downside. that's why i'd only cycle it.
and oh, i mean i'm guessing the bottle is 100mg per mL? you'd prob wanna do like .20mL, or 20mg biweekly at most.
i guess you could do .1mL once a week too but idk. i've always used 10mg per 1mL so i just do 1mL once a week.
unless you also have 10mg per mL in which case doing it every 2 weeks issss hella low.
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>>8344858
Spend less time talking to Kari and more time cleaning your room.
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>>8344892
Misgendering me is going to convince them you're a nice person and I'm a bad one
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>>8344913

>misgendering

I thought you said you were a boy and detransitioned
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>>8344881
Oh, well that's very odd. Sounds like a pathological thing.

>>8344884
Cleaning while listening to long YouTube vids is one of few things that motivates me to continue living.
Nah, you sound like you've got a lot on your plate. My bf and I are currently at a stable point, like we talked a lot and whatnot, but I'm just a little blown out and I need to relax is all.

>>8344888
I'm not incredible at them, but I don't play vidya often enough anymore, so that's to be expected. I just like them because I hate a lot of RPG's for being too easy. (See: anything by Bethesda)
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>>8344917

it's pretty hard to follow tbqh
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>>8344913
>Misgendering me
>spends literally all day talking about hes a cis male
This is why no one likes you here.
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>>8344897
The only times I get anything close to those symptoms just seems to be when I start work.
I'll ride my bike over and clock in and my chest might feel a little tight for a while and then everything's back to normal.
>>8344899
No
Not really
No
>>8344900
I mean, I did, and everything checked out. But this stuff usually happens infrequently and maybe everything just happened to be okay when I got my blood work.
>>8344904
OKAY NO ITS
ECHOES
and then a small subtitle
AWAKENING
FATES
ECHOS
BUTTS
grrrrrrrrr
I'll let you know who I pick!!!!
>>8344911
My insurance covers my HRT so I'm not too worried about cost.
>it would be expensive but it lasts like 3~6 months so it wouldn't be like a constant thing necessarily
Wait
Luprons not a pill?
I dont know anything about Lupron.
>>8344912
But Kari's my best friend..
>>8344919
>Cleaning while listening to long YouTube vids is one of few things that motivates me to continue living.
I really like having just youtube vids where I can listen to people talk on in the background
keeps my mind busy when I need to do things
or is just comfy in general desu
Glad to hear you and your bf are okay though, I understand the emotional exhaustion you must be feelin rn
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>>8344912
lol

>>8344917
he also applies to jobs as a male and refers to himself as male and dresses as a male but okay in misgendering a sexual predator that uses gender as a tool

nty I respect trans women so I'm not. gonna call a dude a lady since he's abusing the system to keep his male privileges and intrude on women spaces
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Tfw no trans roommates taking on the big world together
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Let's turn this thread positive and not give the predator cis man (You)s

How was your day, /mtfg/? Anything fun or exciting?
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>>8344875
No other informed consent or Planned parenthood?


>>8344911
Yeah, every 2 weeks. You think I should I half my dose (they say pull until it's at the 1ml mark so id go to the .5) every week?
How would you cycle progesterone, I'm going to be high E and planned parenthood nurse (omg she's so hot) didn't wanna fuck with it so I'd have to order it myself
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>>8344926
MAGIC DECK BUILDING
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>>8344924

Do you know them IRL or something? Because you seem to be going off information they provide here, a place where trolling happens en masse
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I'm real excited for red dead redemption 2
I should re-play RDR
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>>8344791
BTW, I don't think that the word "chaser" reflects the people you've described. I believe that using it as such is a psy-op designed by the enemies of trans people to confuse and separate them from their natural allies.

It similar to using the word "Jew" to refer to anyone cunning and manipulative, or using the word "Nigger" to refer to anyone degenerate.

It's deeply flawed.
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>>8344803
UCSF suggestions are also very good.

>>8344821
I first saw some stuff on it 3 years ago, but no research on the effects. Just that spiky E2 levels like pills gave make E1 to high in ratio to E2. Sadly sublingual pill taking does this. It then slows feminization. It appears from that doc's slide show only 1/3rd of the people are effected by it. I developed nicely on 200pg/mL E2 levels from patches, but it basically slowed to a crawl when on sublingual pills.

>>8344823
It's a med test like E2 is. Many labs can do it. Both my clinic and UIHC have it as tests that can be done.

>>8344829
>injections are reallllly great honestly, prob second only to like...pellets.
I'd rate pellets > patches > injections > spray and cream transdermal >>>> SL pills

>>8344845
>Is P progesterone?
Yes.

>>8344851
While it is, other routes can also cause heart palpitations. That one I mentioned is often found in women with high E to P ratios. Just like any MtF on E without P.

My dad ran across it while researching thyroid issues for mom's problems.

>>8344897
>mcdonalds
hamburgers have so much salt in them, they qualify as a preserved meat, and don't need refrigeration.

>>8344911
>patches
are so much better. I wish I could use them.
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>>8344930
Its not out for another year you nerd.
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>>8344934
I know. But heck if I don't enjoy a good western.
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>>8344917
>>8344921
well she says that stuff and then she goes and posts something admitting she wants to be a girl but she thinks the only way to be happy is pretend to be a guy or something. idk imo call her an idiot and an asshole since yeah she does deserve it since shes fucking stupid but dont misgender
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>>8344919

i would definitely define it as that yis lol

>>8344923

if you can get cheapo patches then you should definitely get on them!! they're better than pills, and i guess pretty on par to injections.
idk how they work when it comes to the added effect of lowering T like injections does, but they give really consistent, good E levels.
lupron is an injectable type thingy. they stick it in u and it fucks up your T for 3~6 months.

>>8344925

also beepy hi hru i haven't spoken to you at all really since i kinda stopped posting ;_;

>>8344926

my day has been very good actually! i got my glasses today and i can see a bit better and my eyes don't hurt lots being on the computer.
altho i feel like a big nerd now. my diet is goin rly well too so das a plus. how was your day?

>>8344933

don't you literally need two 100mcg patches every 3~4 days tho to get decent levels that are equivalent to pills tho?
what's the added benefits if you get the same E results as you would with 4mg SL pills?
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>>8344932
hell no. chaser is a term we use to designate undesirables. it's a label of shame that's well earned by them. abusive pieces of trash should be pointed out as early as possible before they can do damage to the vulnerable
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>>8344930
One series at a time, young lady!

>goes back to FF14 and HotS when should be playing more Echoes
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Here this is a psych thing that everyone can do at home

You look at what people get angry at and react to, and there's your indicator of their personality

Im reacting to poor dangerous medical advice, and people misgendering and attacking others - I have abandonment issues and was probably abused so I act like a protector and try to be helpful, obviously over sensitive due to the said abuse, easy to bait

Dollface is angry She was challenged, her unfounded uneducated advice was objectively not sound and has no reason to be defended - huge ego problems, and by the length and anger of the responses, possibly manic right now

Followed by trying to be amicable and have people love her while attacking others - need for control, win by consensus to feed her ego

Korra - unprovoked interjection no stimulus other then a conversation, no danger - raised in a strict judgemental background, shows a lot of homo/trans phobia with constant attacks against gender in her diatribes. Is a natural follower from this judgemental background, follows the one with the most consensus without question (Jesus, dollface, her father)
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>>8344942
I just think that it's etymologically wrong.
A good word speaks for itself without dictionary.
There's nothing wrong with chasing your dreams.
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>>8344945
>nervously glances at Steam library of 300+ games
H-heh....
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>>8344892
wow. such aggression.

i mean don't get this wrong, but you shouldn't judge the actions of people by transferring to them what motivates you to do the things you do.

>>8344893
You've always been a sweetheart to me and I really appreciate your friendship, so that's the Faye I know.

Now, as for what you do or whom you're dating, I'm happy and proud of you if it makes you happy. :)
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>tfw faye ignores me

I just want an alpha femboy bf...why
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>>8344928
Hah nerd
But for real tho that looks like fun :D. I was always too dumb to put a decent deck together. Gonna play in any tourneys?
>>8344940
Nice ^^ I have a pair of glasses but I always forget to wear them
My day was good, did some cleaning in my room and helped cooked for guests that my parents had over. Plus my friend made plans to hang out on Saturday with me :3
Might go do stuff tomorrow but idk what
>>8344949
I don't like them but I don't want them to kill themself, so definitely the first one, maybe the second
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>>8344959
no just for casual play but I have so many freaking cards to sort through!
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>>8344923
Thanks, senpai. My optimism will carry me along, at least for the time being. I hope your issues clear up soon. I'm open to chat if you're ever on Discord and need company.

>>8344925
If the Vancouver trannies are anything to go by, you don't want any. Trust me.

>>8344942
How have you been lately, Korra? I haven't been on for a bit.

>>8344946
>unprovoked interjection
It's almost like we're on 4chan or something.
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>>8344843
the whole name fag thing is just so odd,
and how faye just trashes you and elanna -
the 2 most experienced people here who actually help
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>>8344940
>lupron is an injectable type thingy. they stick it in u and it fucks up your T for 3~6 months.
I'm still dealthy afraid of needles that aren't blood tests
sounds like i should definitely go for patches though!!!
>>8344933
well, im gonna switch to patches because the thought i could be getting a worse transition cause of what i take scares the crap out of me and gives me a ton of anxiety
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>>8344933
I like the ucsf manual they have good trans care and are near me
>>8344923
Those are more serious symptoms, you seem pretty okay then and not in throw the pills out territory
>>8344917
I'm legally female, you have to get that sometimes I meme

I could go not be legally female if I wanted to be cis
>>8344942
Judgemental, mean, brandishing hate speach

Really upsetting tbqh
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>>8344950
post top played steam games
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>>8344956

>mfw alpha femboy
you need look no further

>>8344959

but don't they help with eye strain and to help u not be blind? ;_;
and d'aw. that sounds really nice honestly! spending good quality time with friends is great. what kinds of stuff do you have the option of doing tomorrow?

>>8344964

idk it's whatever to me. i'm not upset about faye having a breakdown over me sharing my happiness in life lol
but honestly it would have affected me as much as it seems to be affecting her if i still actively posted here, so i'm glad i'm not in that headspace
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>>8344950
God, imagine all the clothes I could buy if I could just refund all the stuff on steam I've never played...
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>>8344963
been doing okay. moving up slowly in the world but hey up is better than down! working on getting a second job too cuz I want more money and the ability to save!
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>>8344963
It's almost like this is where the personality disorders go to talk because they'd be banned on anything moderated
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>>8344927
NZ doesn't have much to offer desu
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>>8344971

I've seen your chaturbate, you're cute but not my type
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>>8344970
>>8344972
At least I have income so I don't have to regret ;;
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>>8344970
I've got 1400 hours in rust .___.
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>>8344974
Glad to hear you're feeling optimistic. Having money saved is always a good thing. What kinda job are you looking for?

>>8344975
So what if it is? You could just leave if you don't like it.
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>>8344970
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>>8344966

you wouldn't be doing the injection tho and it would only be a few times a year!! I BELIEVE IN UR BRAVERY GRACE
UR MY FAVORITE NIECE FOR A REASON!!!!!!!! and yes def do patches bb. if you can you def should. you'll just get even more beautiful.

>>8344977

drats ~_~
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>>8344970
>tfw don't even really like 3 of your top played games
I should idle Huniepop for a few days to get that up there.
>>8344978
You play FF14? I've been trying to get into that over the past little while.
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>>8344956
::Nuzzles:: what's up princess
>>8344981
Or I could not
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>>8344970
I'd make a new one but I don't think it's changed.
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>>8344971
Yeah they do, plus I stare at screens all day so I probably should ;_; wanna get one with a more feminine frame desu
And uhh I've got my car and some money so I can do whatever I want to. Shopping maybe? I always get overwhelmed with options here back home
>>8344979
Rust looks fun but I never had friends to play it with, plus I was too scared to use microphones ;-;
>>8344960
Yeah it looks like a ton! Casual play is still fun af though, especially with friends or something
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>>8344985

But I mean, if you're close by we could meet up for drinks and maybe I'll change my mind or make a new friend =P
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>>8344948
well the actual word itself isn't what's important it's what it represents and those kinda guys are no bueno and aren't tolerated here for good reason

we tend to try to band together to protect the vulnerable here even if this site is a shithole

>>8344981
any job really it doesn't matter as long as it pays :P

>>8344991
yep exactly that's what I'm mainly gonna do!
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>>8344970
>tfw casual
feels neurotypical man
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>>8344966
I think ash pays like 500 a shot after insurance? Shits expensive
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Does doing it in the butt count as losing your virginity?
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>>8344978
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>>8344970
mine's weird
i'm not big into variety
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>>8344970
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>>8344991

ye def!! qt frames are sooo nice on girls in generaaalllll. maybe you could do that tomorrow :o
i love shopping in general tho so idk lol. is it gonna be nice out for you tomorrow?

>>8344994

w-well i do like making friends..
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>>8344940
I was using three 100mcg patches on a 4.5 day rotation, and had 222pg/mL E2 levels. I also applied my patches in a 1.5 day offset.
>Patch 1 is replaced on day 1 in the morning.
>Patch 2 day 2 in the evening
skip day 3
>patch 3 is replaced on day 4 in the morning.
patch 1 is replaced on day 5 in the evening,
skip day 6,
>day 7 replace patch 2 in morning,
>day 8 replace patch 3 in the evening,
so forth and so on...

I started the three patch cycle after figuring out when using the 3-4 day cycle of the patches, I felt much better on that day where I replaced patches the two days before. I looked at the expected patch hormone levels and saw it was above 200pg/ml then. I then figured out a patch schedule to keep my levels above 200pg/mL.

>>8344949
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13043942
I can't vote at all in that.
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>>8344988

Can has discord plox?
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>>8344991
>Rust looks fun but I never had friends to play it with
I played solo because no friends
>plus I was too scared to use microphones ;-;
same
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>>8345000
Yea
Jesus is watching :^)
>>
>tfw ufufu thinks ur cute

what a time to be alive
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>>8345007
Robin #9121
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>>8345006

>three 100mcg patches every 4.5 days
THAT'S INSANEEEE THOUGH LOL
again, what's the added benefit of doing that versus E injections and pills??

>>8345014

i should text her. whenever i'm on the boards she frequents i always think about her but i'm awful at initiating conversation ._.
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>>8344988
So you want to be a whiner who starts shit but doesn't get called out on it? Tough break. This place thrives on drama and you're no less pathetic than anyone else here.

>>8344996
True, that's what I figured. Are you saving up just because, or do you have plans?

>>8345000
It's one of various virginities to lose.
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>>8344988
i just don't get why people are so adamant about bullying other people here, it doesn't make sense.

it's like the ultimate insults here:
You're a hon
You're a man
No one likes you
You should leave.

I just don't get what motivates people to be such assholes to each other and drop trips to make it seem like they are some sort of army of likeminded jerks and how others get swayed by this bs.
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>>8345020
well i just bought a second from a friend but I can't drive it because I can't afford insurance rn. I had to get it since other purple wanted to buy it.

plus more money is always nice and it's useful in life to slays have savings for u expected happenings
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>>8345002
mave nerd but cute nerd
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>>8344978
not bad
>>8344979
lame
>>8344984
normie
>>8344987
normie
>>8344990
strategy games are truly patrician. i wish i was smart enough for them

>>8344997
somewhat normie but good games. is underrail good?

>>8345002
What the actual fuck
>>8345004
Why do you ppl play so much TF2
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>>8345014
lucky girl
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tfw stage 4 terminal autism
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>>8344953
You really do hit i on the head with the transference, it's a narcissistic trait, when someone has no empathy and can't see where another person is coming from and how they thi, they literally describe that person with their own faults
>>8345020
I wouldn't even call them pathetic, They just need help, you seem angry about it
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>>8345005
M-maybe, I might get my friend to help on Saturday since we're hanging out at the mall. I get nervous buying girl stuff in places where people might know me if no one is there with me to calm me down ;-;
>is it gonna be nice out for you tomorrow?
It's supposed to rain a lil in the morning but the afternoon should be fine!
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>>8345031
>is underrail good?
yeah, it's actually one of my favourite RPGs of all time, and i've played a butt ton of them

it's definitely one of the best RPGs released in recent years
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>>8345031
I can't help that normie people want to play normie stuff for hours!
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>>8345031
bc in like 2007 i was broke as shit had a scuffed pc and i traded nudes for hats.
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>>8345031
am i still normie if the only modes i played in css and csgo are bhop and kz maps

also i used to play tf2 when i feel terrible and want to just not exist. i try to read a book now
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>>8345017

is the 'R' supposed to be lowercase? It didn't like that one
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>>8345031
They're not that hard, just require some learning.
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>>8344970
I'm a peasant most of the time, my steam is cancer
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>>8345031

You commented on everyones but mine...why do you hate me QQ
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>>8345036

having a shopping day with friends is really nice c: plus you shouldn't feel nervous! it's not a big deal, really. i know it feels like it, but it isn't.
at least approaching it like that really helped me when i first started transitioning. but you should go out and enjoy the city or s/t in the afternoon!
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>>8345040

>traded nudes for hats

roflmao
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>>8345026
shh people are just mean bc they're human
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>>8345031
>lame
:<
I have been playing other stuff in my library because it is totally lame

btw stardew valley was fun, I am thinking of starting up a new game even though I did everything
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>>8345040
how come you just didnt idle for scrap
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>>8345030
:]
>>8345031
pretty much the only time i play games is if i have friends who play it and if i'm good at it
i have a shit ton of hours on tf2 because it meets those qualifications and it's free
>>8345040
>i traded nudes for hats.
WAT
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anywayss, i'm sorry that me posting caused a bunch of drama lol. it really wasn't my intention at all.
i'm gonna go for now tho since i feel like i've pretty adequately checked in on ya'll. i'll be back in a week or somethin idk!
love you girls who aren't all crazy dramarama and i hope you have a great week. <3
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>>8345051
u laugh but whose 5K USD richer for minimal effort
>>8345056
lazy
>>8345057
did i stutter
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>>8345048
sorry there were a lot and desu i was talking to grace when i told her to post hers. Was not expecting so many ppl.

Is elite dangerous good? i thought it was a poor mans scam citizen. I wanna play a good space sim one day when i have the gfx. overall your games are pretty gud.
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>>8345059
hope you are doing well
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>>8345059
I MISS YOU EDIE BUT YOUR LIFE IS BETTER AWAY FROM HERE ;_;
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>>8345050
Thanks ^^
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>>8345026
Oh that ones pretty easy

You see they're all marginalized minorities, and marginalized minorities do this kind of segregation way worse then any other group, because society does it to them, and they backlash and recreate what was done to them inside their own sub groups, but worse.

White men don't go around calling themselves cracker because in America they aren't a marginalized group, but in Japan they do call themselves gaijin and start divorcing from society and feeling lonely. Or the same with black culture and using the n-word and how much more violent they are to LGBT people (for being outside the norm)

We however are in the majority in our countries, and further, I'm kind of accepted socially (not totally it gets pretty bad depending) so we don't have that life experience or culture of hate built into us
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>>8345059
see ya
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>>8345020
>it's one of various virginitys to lose
But if someone gets did in the butt, have they "lost their virginity" by the general term
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>>8345052
I've never been mean, I am just surrounded by meanies.
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>>8345029
Nice. I'm dreading having to buy a car again when I move, but luckily that's a ways into the future. I hope you can get insurance soon; I assume that's what the extra job will help with.

>>8345035
Some of them need help, some don't. It's up to them, ultimately. There's no reason to be angry. Most of us just acknowledge that we're here because there's nowhere else to go. You were the one who just tried to make that sound like a bad thing, hence why I said you could just leave.

>>8345052
The human condition is one of suffering. If it is not imposed on us by circumstance, we will impose it on each other.

>>8345059
Goodnight/day/week/etc.
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>5 more days and I never need to take an anti androgen again
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>>8345070
You would no longer be a gold star virgin.
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>>8345074
grats
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>>8345062

Elite Dangerous is really good for a space sim, but it lacks any kind of story, so you kind have to make one up in your head. There is one, but the game won't really engage you with it at all. It's incredibly fun if you like space sims, and I loved playing space trucker and space bounty hunter and space illegal arms/drug dealer to start revolutions.

I love how you can influence the political status of a star system by your actions.

Player interactions can be rare if you're not in a group.

I played until I got the biggest, baddest, fully upgraded giant ship I could and then I had nothing else to do so I stopped playing. I'd only really go back if they added something for the story or if I had a friend to play with. The multi-crew is in so that's really awesome if you have people to play with.
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>>8345052
I'm rarely mean desu
>>8345074
Mad jelly desu
Have fun with the orchi
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>>8344999
That's bout what I'd have to pay too. So I went with Depo Provera birth control shots every month for $5 each... I think they are $50ish at costco without insurance.

>>8345018
Second only in smoothness of E2 level to implants. At my rotation it only is effectively 2.66 patches at one time due to the longer wear time. 3.5 average wear time versus 4.5 days. It was only $60 something in patches a month when bough in volume from IHP. It would be more now.

>>8345026
>i just don't get why people are so adamant about bullying other people here, it doesn't make sense.
They do it to feel better. :( Actually makes me feel bad to bully somebody.

>>8345035
tfw empathy is cranked to 11. I get overloaded easily.

>>8345059
*HUGS*
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>>8345052
really though?
What about empathy? What about wanting to be a better person and growing as an individual?

It sucks though, most people here have enough problems going on with their lives than to sling shit on people who are going though a different version of what they're going through. they should know better, it just makes me sad.
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>>8345057
mave what class did you play. i used to play scout when i was trying to play 6s but now i dont play much and only play sniper in pubs if i do
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>>8345074
nice, gl. kinda jelly ngl
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>when she tells you she likes you and you cant stop blushing
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>>8345092
Cute
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>>8345092
thats pretty gay desu senpai
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>>8345094
>tfw you know her
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>>8345085
I know...
It's an attempt to climb to the top of the social ladder.
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>>8345068
>White men don't go around calling themselves cracker because in America they aren't a marginalized group
liberal middle class white male claims all white males are privileged and confuses classism for racism whilst perpetuating the same thing against his own race
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>>8344996
>well the actual word itself isn't what's important
A simple proof that you're wrong: the neo-Nazi idioms "Jew", "nigger", "SJW". I think it's obvious that the choice of these words IS important even when they don't "mean" (respectively) Semitic people, black people and good people.

What's the natural connotation of the word "chaser"? Someone in love! By using it (misleadingly) to describe vile people, you pollute the semantic space of love. You diminish your capacity to register and process love. "Someone loving trans women" automatically becomes "a scum person" (unless proven otherwise).

This reply took me a long time. It's difficult to describe, I'm clearly no Slavoj Žižek. But I did my best.
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>>8345098
Tell me what's up, anon!
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one of my usual customers must have started transitioning or going out in girl mode bc she doesn't really pass well but I can see what hs'es going for

would it be patronizing to use female pronouns w her or should I ask
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>beat picnicker
>she says that I looked cute and harmless and that she was wrong
Did she just call me not cute? Wtf.
>>8345104
The natural connotation of "chaser" is "fetishist".
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>>8345104
it's a tranny slang term that's used in trans circles. rn ur just arguing semantics. a chaser by any other name would still be just as bad but that's the common term so getting upset about it won't change anything

in fact getting upset about it is strange in the first place if you aren't a chaser
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>>8345108
>fetishist
You've just replaced one terribly misused word with another terribly misused word.
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can the pedophile please leave? Early morning transbian hours are comfy
>>8345102
how long are you meant to keep patches on? Like literally the whole time or what?
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>>8345087
i played demo in 6s last season
it was kinda dumb though just playing with friends irl in the lowest div
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>>8345113
The original meaning of fetishist is so lost that it's largely irrelevant.
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>>8345083
I do too, when doll and her goons sync up and go balistic on people it physically makes me queezy, I'm the recent punching bag, but it's a little easier when it's me, I've talked to a few people she almost drove to suicide with this game, and she's posted the personal private suicide note that was addressed to her while laughing about it and just has gone off for hours about that dead girl and how terrible she was
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These anti-chaser sentiments are tearing our community apart.

We must learn to co-exist peacefully and sexually with chasers.
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>>8345106
ask discretely
>>8345115
cool. sounds fun. i never really played just pug with friends
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>>8345122
Gas the chasers.
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>>8345106
Personally I'd be thrilled if someone who knew me from before transition started calling me female pronouns without me asking them to.
I'm not sure how others would react to it though, so it might be better to ask.
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>>8345068

this thing about doing it to feel better, I just can't understand it. I mean I'm no saint and I have lashed out at people. but that feeling of knowing you've hurt smeone or tried to hurt someone is unbearable. at least to me.

>>8345072
>The human condition is one of suffering
you're basically just settling for the worst. rise against that. grow be better.

>>8345068
true, but still, I just don't understand this mentality.... of not wanting to grow, to be better.
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>>8345103
I don't get it, there are examples in racism and classism, poor people are more likely to be abuse to those outside the norm as well, I used that example as a control, aka

White man in the us doesn't do this, white man in Japan does do this

A white man in Japan has a nice job and is rich, or they'd deport him
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>>8344816
holy fuck this doc is interesting.
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>>8345122
>>>/out/ die
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>>8345122
But I like chasers!
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>>8345122
chasers are tearing the community apart desu
it's like we have one space where we can be amongst other trannies and chasers also want to hamfist themselves in that.
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>>8344568
>It Gets Better!
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>>8344970
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>>8345122
Heck off
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>>8345138
they don't really do anything other than act creepy and shitpost sometimes, everyone i hate here is also trans
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>>8345145
not a steam game, do you have a reading disability? B)
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>>8345138

Solution is easy. Make a discord group where everyone has to post a timestamp pic to prove they're not a chaser
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>PS4 has said "Shipping Today!" for the past 4 days
God damn Amazon get your shit together
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>>8345122
Hear, hear
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Are there even any chasers posting right now or are you all just being crazy
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>>8345130
Well there are different responses to being othered

If we're healthy (aka not bpd psychotic etc) a response to rejection triggers us to think we're going to die away from the tribe.

So how do we respond? Get better to get back in, Panic about dying, do what was done to us to someone weaker and carry our anger with us?

Depends what your tribe taught you, and it depends on your brain chemistry
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>>8345149
thought I'd share how much time I've wasted on a single game with no fruition.

Maybe if I didn't spend half those hours sleep-deprived and drugged up I'd be pro by now.
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>>8345125
"yo shawty we are updating our customer info can you check your info for me" and then make her check the mrs. box instead of mr
>>8345128
I said goodbye miss as she left today so we'll see what happens
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Anyone have any success coming off of E and producing sperm again? I'm a poorfag who just had my first dry orgasm, kind of freaking out.
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>>8345165
I've detransitioned about 4 times and every single time I produced sperm again.
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>>8345159
i merely tease. winnings all about mentality. drugs are bad.
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>>8345103
lmao what the fuck does non hispanic white males even mean?

I mean 2nd gen hispanic white males aren't even hispanic anymore. lmao.
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>>8345167
>>8345165
I've detraonistioned 5 times and I never started producing

But then again I never stop e for more then a week
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>>8345130
Any other state is a lie. It isn't settling for the worst; it's learning to cope with the truth. I am optimistic about life because I know that I can only expect brief glimmers of happiness. What use would there be in a life where I believe life is always meant to be happy? I would always be disappointed.
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>>8345168
I have plenty of game knowledge atm, just need to gain elo instead of playing norms all day.
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>>8345167
You are the angel that I needed to talk to today, thank you so much for the good news!
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>>8345167

How long have you been transitioning? How long did you detransition?
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>>8345175
it also seems veigar isn't working out that well :^)
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>>8345170
It's a self identification

It's like how I have white friends that are like a little bit Native American, and there are Native Americans with the same little bit, but they identify
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>>8345175
if u tilt even once don't queue again or you'll regret it m80
god bless
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>>8345178
Been on and off this ride for 11 years. I've been back on HRT for "about 10 months", more appropriately like 4.
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>>8345164
more like "i saw you're presenting a bit differently, would you like me you refer to you using different pronouns?"
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>>8345167
Sorry if I sound insensitive, but why have you detransistioned so many times?
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>>8345112
>in fact getting upset about it is strange in the first place if you aren't a chaser
I was called a chaser countless times. Happy?
For nothing more than having sexual interest in dick girls.
So facts contradict your belief and confirm mine.

>>8345117
>The original meaning of fetishist is so lost that it's largely irrelevant.
Calling men attracted to trans women "fetishists" is:
1) degrading to trans women
2) as stupid as calling men attracted to cis women "fetishists".
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>>8345186
*to refer to you
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>>8345179
Leonyx was telling me to practice veigar support for a tournament because the koreans are doing it. No bully. My Lux is clean af.

>>8345183
The last time I tilted was because I was getting instagibbed by a Lee Sin every single fight. That rarely happens when you have a tank line.
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>>8345154
lol maybe my empathy goes only so far.

I get what you're saying though. it's just sad.
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>>8345187
1. Parents kicked me out at 15
2. Homeless and broke at 20
3. Fake pills and death scare at 22
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>>8345136
Amazing Grace!
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>>8345106
Make her smile, use them.

>>8345104
>It's difficult to describe
It's just part of linguistics.

>>8345114
Some are week long, and some are a 3-4 day cycle. Depends on the maker. I was using EstroDot patches which are replace on alternating 3 and 4 day cycles to keep them aligned with the week. I was wearing them for 4.5 days to make replacement easy for three, and to get my E2 level consistently above 200pg/mL.

>>8345118
I've wondered about the biology of the reaction. I known many women who also have the same queasy reaction to seeing bullying. It also made them not want to associate with the bullies.

Yeah, I saw that suicide note episode. Not cool on her part. I'm hoping patches will help her become calmer.

>>8345133
Yes, everybody should read it. It's well written, and the observations of a doc who cares about his patients. If I was anywhere near him in Michigan, I'd switch to him in a millisecond.
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>>8345199
SOMEONE RANG?
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>>8345194
well gl on that grind
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>>8345188
and? if you aren't one then all you need to do is prove it. it's guilty until proven innocent because the other way around puts girls at risk.

if you wanna be in an online community like this you need to suck it up or simply not come here. that is the cost of doing business and complaining about the injustice is pointless because we are like this to protect ourselves first and foremost not be politically correct or spare feelings

experience has taught it must be this way and it's in the girls best interest to do so
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>>8345202
not like I have anything better to do when I'm afraid to go outside...

I'm trying to make money boosting accounts to gold on the side.
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>>8345153
I think you have to actually do some chasing to be a chaser, so I guess I'm not. I like shitposting for the (you)s though, since certain people always get rump-rustled whenever you drop the c-word.
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>>8345200
Estrogen makes bpd worse, her mom had it, and from the stories it was barely controllable when she was younger

I think the bica and testosterone might make it better for her desu
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>when you get horny just by browsing /mtfg/
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>>8345188
listen dude no one here cares if some idiot chaser doesn't get what we mean by chaser.
Just leave.

>>8345194
>g2
>the koreans are doing it
Charlotte no.
Especially since you say you have the game knowledge, that means you lack the motor skills to move up and veigar isn't exactly simple in that regard.
I know it sounds like condescending advice but it really isn't, that's just how it works, anyone below d1 should be following it.
>>8345200
jesus you have to wear the patches for days???... that sounds really bothersome.
It sucks so much that patches are my only alternative to progynova here once I get through gatekeeping. I'm going to test my E1 in august to see how that's going, I really hope I don't need to swap.
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>>8345214
makes me sick desu
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>>8345214
???
How
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>>8345219
So many cute girls. I want to kiss them all!
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>>8345173
but that's it, happiness isn't a state!

happiness isn't complacency and rest. it's work and motion.

change the frame of what you're viewing and it changes your experience.

but to view life through the frame of suffering, it's just limiting yourself... to more suffering.

>>8345181
yeah, I don't know. when I was a child I just identified as a child, not a made up pseudo racial hashtag.
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>>8345222
r u a man
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how are you all
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>>8345226
No one asked you as a child on a standardized form
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>>8345222
>I want to kiss them all!
even the hons?
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>>8345227
Yes. And nothing is sexier in this world than a dirty, pervy failed-man-turned-trans.
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>>8345227
arent we all though
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>>8345227
I am male and identify as male!

>>8345230
Maybe. I've mostly seen cute girls ITT, though! Some of them are so pretty!
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>>8345235
eh
>>8345232
wat
>>8345238
wanna be my bf
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>>8345228
im just okay i guess. are you going to get banned for using that name or do mods not hate you now
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>>8345217
You're being really condescending.

Can you discuss with me at face value instead of assuming elo = skill? Literally playing new champs in a new role to learn them instead of spamming the shit I know I could win on.

Fucking commies.
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>>8345229
>children aren't asked for their pseudo-racial identity
so how is this graphic even possible? :p

i understand your point totally though, it's just that that graphic is weirdly based on assumptions and half assed facts.
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>>8345243
umm it's been like 3 months since I've been banned, and that was from /sci/
I don't think they care anymore
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>>8345212
I know, and natural E levels are a roller coaster ride. Patches are much much smoother, and the amount is easily controlled. By interleaving two patches a half cycle off, the levels can be even smoother. I expect she'll settle on somewhere around 150mcg of patches at once. That's 120pg/ml +/- 30pg/mL average E2 level. That level is much lower than injections give.

>>8345217
Yep... I found athletic tape to be good for holding them on if they want to come off
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>when she reads your post about her
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>>8345092
cutie~
>>8345250
I LOVE THIS IMAGE SO MUCH
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>>8345226
I know happiness isn't a state. The state of humanity is suffering. Happiness is only attainable within that state. It isn't limiting in the least, unless one wants it to be. I am not limited by suffering; I simply move within it, and happiness comes upon me briefly within that stream.
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>>8345250
whys this anime crying
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>>8345247
It's self reported census data
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>>8345255
>when she still has her trip off
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>>8345260
she wishes she were 3D
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>>8345259
your frame is suffering, thus you can only move within the limitations which that frame has given you.

come on this is Plato's cave.
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>>8345205
It warps your mind without you realising.
It's as harmful to you as it is to the chaser.

>it's guilty until proven innocent because the other way around puts girls at risk.
Yeah, the worst threat to trans women are lovers of trans women.
Trans women need more transphobia for their own good. /irony

>if you aren't Jew then all you need to do is prove it.
Meh, I swear that you were a different person before.
You've lost something important. You're no more a good and wise Korra.
You literally said opposite things at the beginning.
Something has changed you.
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>>8345263
s-s-s-stop this
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>>8345250
same
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>>8345264
thats sad
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>>8345270
*namedrops you so people know who you are*
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>>8345277
*hands you a glass of water* There, now you can be hydrated while you clean your room~.
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>>8345261
i hate you lol.

you know it's skewed into filling the preconcieved categories of the person who devised this study.

it's like somene from Jordan could be a non hispanic white male, but at the same time he doesn't even fit into that category. the broadness of the category and openess to misinterpretation of this is ridiculous
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>>8345281
>implying she'll ever clean her room
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>>8345277
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>>8345281
Can you clean my room mom
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>>8345217
or just don't defend your point after assuming I'm hardstuck gold. That's fine too.
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>>8345269
idk why you're so ass blasted about how we rightfully treat chasers like unwanted trash but okay. I don't really care u will never have empathy for that subhuman scum. please exit these threads and don't come back since chasers feelings instead of the safety of trans girls are your priority. ur free to start a chaser gen
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>>8345287
>when kari breaks character
omfg lmao
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>>8345292
That was the pic I was looking for but lost
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>>8345289
I feel like you should be independent, butttt I'm also supposed to take care of you. How about this, I'll make a nice homemade pizza while you clean~?
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>>8345282
>you know it's skewed into filling the preconcieved categories of the person who devised this study.
Yes, this is why it is a big thing that the Trump administration has removed the recommended transgender questions form the next US census.
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>>8345289
cant I do both in that image? I like being spoiled but I like being worth it
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>>8345296
She needs to learn. Make her do both and give you a foot rub after!
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>>8345246
the advantages high mechanical champions provide are too locked away to be take advantage of in any place other than a serious professional match.
Definitely not in soloq and definitely not in g2.
>assuming elo = skill
elo is a very accurate indicator of skill though, it shows you how well you play on average.
>>8345290
i figured you'd take this personally lol.
whatever you do you
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>>8345291
anon's a chaser.
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>>8345296
Fiiiiiiiiiiiine.
Spoil me harder!
>>8345294
lol
>>8345302
That's mean ;_;
>>8345300
Yeahhhhh
Idk why anyone thinks I'm worth it
cause I'm not lmao
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>>8345205
>>8345269
>Something has changed you.
The worst thing is that I had warned you that it would happen.
And you seemed to understand it.
But now you talk like the old cunts of /mtfg/.
You've become one of them.
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>>8345306
You're a dumb girl but you need to learn. Clean your room. Don't you want to be a dainty ditzy wife someday?
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>>8345306
Good girl. And nah, you're definitely worth it.
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>>8345307
korra was creepily chasing young transgirls on /soc/ earlier today so shes clearly just projecting.
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>>8345305
>>8345305
yeah he ain't pulling a fast one on me

>>8345307
chaser leave this is a thread for women
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>>8345291
>ur free to start a chaser gen
like, to chase other chasers?
are u sane?
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>>8345297
That is pretty huge as it's used to determine benefits for groups
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>>8345296
Don't enable Grace. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind, you know.
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>>8345314
Dim, this one is.
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>>8345311
thanks
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>>8345310
Nuhuh!
>>8345309
Y-yeah, you're right anon.
>>8345317
No no, spoiling and enabling me is DEFINITELY kind.
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>>8345311
making stuff up doesn't make it true. sometimes it's very refreshing to talk to other trannies not from mtfg

>>8345314
wew lad. not alot going on upstairs I see
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>>8345317
Carrots are more effective than sticks, Anon. If she doesn't clean her room while I make the pizza then I'll not let her have any~.
>>8345321
Yuh-huh!
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>>8345321
Grace clean your room geez it takes like 20 minutes
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>>8345317
It would be better if she was given a choice. Do your chores and be rewarded, or she'll do your chores, but you get punished afterwards. The only problem is that she'd enjoy the punishments, I'd bet...
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>>8345317
>Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind
Well duh
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>>8345315
Yep!

What do you bet we'd still be under counted due to the large number of us in unusual housing situation, outright homeless, or fear of reprisal?
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>>8345313
i don't believe you are telling me the whole story. this whole "chaser" drama is a facade you are putting up to hide the actual reason to do away with me.

i'm not entitled to your love. but i am entitled to truth.
>>
I'm pretty new but every night I check here Korra is fighting with someone. Can someone explain this to me? Is it a troll or something?
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>>8345325
>20 minutes
You underestimate my power
Or uh
how dirty my room is
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>>8345325
grace's room is an all day project desu
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>>8345331
What did she do to make her glasses so dirty???
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>>8345326
>The only problem is that she'd enjoy the punishments, I'd bet...
Yeah, I can't quite scold her if I want to punish her effectively.
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>>8345289
me on the right
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>>8345336
>Yeah, I can't quite scold her if I want to punish her effectively.
What if you punished her as a reward and ignored her as punishment? A little bit of bizarro behaviour: good girls get spanked and have their hair pulled, bad girls have to play by themselves.
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>>8345330
just the wannabe angst of a teenager in the body of an almost 30 year old
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>>8345329
begone chaser. go campaign for "rights" somewhere else the only thing ur entitled to is a fuck off
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>>8345324
Definitely let me have some no matter what!
>>8345326
>The only problem is that she'd enjoy the punishments, I'd bet...
Depends on what they are!
>>8345327
You say that but you're the type that likes receiving the cruelty.
>>8345333
THIS
>>8345334
Soup spilled on it at work!
>>8345336
If you scold me too hard I'll just cry
If you punish me wrong I'll enjoy it
GOOD LUCK
>>8345339
>ignored her as punishment?
wait no
doNT DO THAT
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>>8345339
>What if you punished her as a reward and ignored her as punishment?
Actually, I'm 99% sure that'd be effective.
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>>8345331
The more you procrastinate the longer its going to take when you do it.
>>
>tfw comfy in bed but also bored
>tfw don't wanna sleep yet
What do
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>>8345333
that needs more storage.

>>8345342
>wait no
>doNT DO THAT
>>8345343
>Actually, I'm 99% sure that'd be effective.
LOL
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>>8345303
>elo
elo is only an accurate indicator of skill if you're hovering around that elo over the course of hundreds of games.
>everything else
you sound like you're trying to imitate LS. I'm sure you'd tell me to spam annie until the cows come home because my elo indicates that I don't know how to punish people for overextending or land skill shots frequently enough to maximize damage.
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>>8345346
das me every day
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>>8345346
you need a vibe
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>>8345346
close your eyes and count the blood vessels in the eyelids.
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>>8345342
My slut senses were tingling but its only Grace again
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>>8345344
Or I can never do it!
>>8345343
DARNIT ANON YOU GAVE HER IDEAS
>>8345347
>LOL
ITS NOT FUNNY DONT LAUGH
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>>8345252
injections are probably better for that E2 stuff right?

ive been on sublingual pils since the beginning and it's been slow moving so far
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>>8345343
>Actually, I'm 99% sure that'd be effective.
Get her worked up and refuse to finish until she cleans her room. Bully the Grace.
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>>8345348
ok
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>>8345344
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>>8345360
Is she your new one?
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>>8345356
Imagine a headpat pic here since image limit. You'll feel good about yourself once you've done it, too!
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>>8345352
L-lewd
Though I do have the money for a Hitachi wand now, and I wouldn't have to touch my dick to orgasm anymore
Hmmm...
>>8345349
Same rip
>>8345353
But that'll make me sleep!
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>>8345365
>>8345365
>>8345365
>>8345365
>>8345365
>>
gaahh, i emailed the place that supposedly could get me a recommendation letter for HRT like a week ago and ive still got nothing back yet :(

anyone know of any other places that do skype therapy sessions for letters? it seemed a little fishy but they seem to be a fairly big LGBT center in orlando

if only my mom wasn't picking me up i could probably just go there in person when i fly back lol
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>>8345357
>E2 to E1 ratio out of whack.
implants > patches > injections is the way I'd rank them. Cream, jell, and spray forms of transdermal E2 are spiky like sublingual pills.

>>8345356
*HUGS*

>>8345358
bullying bad!
>>
http://vocaroo.com/i/s03gaL1xgibD
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>>8345359
why do you think you deserve respect?
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>>8345394
i don't really care anymore desu, this is the fourth time you insult me for no reason, you really should get the fuck over yourself. Fuck off ty.
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>>8345341
>>8345484
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>>8345150
>>8345616
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>>8344740
Haha rejecting the only people attracted to you out of hand let's see how this strategy pans out
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>>8346456

Tgirls don't get logic, after all they are women...
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