/femgen/ - Australia edition

>>6910957
replace femgen.us with
discord.gg/3bGZwy4
assuming the site owner still wants that to happen. that's the permanent discord join link.
>still using andreja as the OP

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>>6910965
>andreja
>andrej + a
>you

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>ywn have a butch bff

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>>6910965
>andreja

>>6910972
>>6910983
>implying trannies don't make the OP andreja every time and laugh about it

>>6911000
>filename

What's the consensus on pueraria mirifica?

Already blocking DHT, but I don't want to block testosterone and be hypogonadal. Interested if this is worth adding for some extra protection against androgenization of my skin and hair. The powder looks very affordable from Thailand and less intense than actual estrogen. I'd drop the dose or get on ralox if it were to give me gyno.

>>6913260
Almost useless except in extreme amounts. You'd be better off with a hundred of spiro

I've been doing research on hormones. How do Raloxifene and Estradiol react? Because I want to make sure that when I do get on hormones that I do not grow a pair of tits

>>6913861
Just take raloxifene.

Raloxifene IS estrogen,, it just selectively stimulates feminisition in some tissue and inhibits in others (your breasts in case of raloxifene).

Estradiol is normal estrogen and your whole body gets feminsed, and you grow breasts.

Taking them together would possibly result in estradiol overpower the raloxifene and you growing boobs.


But yeah in shorts, just get raloxifene. It's estrogen. You don't need double the estrogen.

Take it together with an anti androgen.

>>6914032
I can't really find any information about whether it's agonistic or antagonistic in areas of the body besides the bones or breasts and I don't think there's a lot of data.

>>6914032
Thank you so much, man.

Will bicalutamide will that effect my physical abilities a lot? I love doing cardio, hardcore ass workouts and being active, but I don't want my bones to become more brittle or my drive to decrease.

>>6914158
This is all anecdotal but I'll share my experience. I started taking it about two weeks ago and recently did some exercise. I got tired and light-hearted much quicker than I used too BUT a. It was the first time I had done anything since spring b. I had been eating like shit and didn't drink enough water beforehand.

I think that blocking testosterone can only have a negative effect on physical performance. I recall reading that you would have to really work hard to maintain the muscle mass you already have, and it's probably the same to a lesser degree for endurance.

>>6914197
Oh and I'll also add that bone brittleness shouldn't be a problem with a healthy diet and load-bearing exercise. Just don't expect to break PRs.

Does anyone here know of any research in estrogen receptor isoform distribution in facial adipose tissue? Or, at least, personal experience with facial fat distribution while on a SERM that blocks breast growth?

>>6913260
Weak (but cheap per-effect), almost no anti androgenic properties

If you want to prevent baldness you need to block the androgens

You can use it to grow teetays (it's great for that), and to help with skin a bit, but really you're better off with an antiandrogen

>tfw I fell for the pueraria meme
>tried a bottle off Amazon, amazed at the effects after just 3 months
>decided to shell out $60 for the kilogram from Thailand
>it's all powder
>I have no capsules
Sheeit

Def plan to get some capsules and eat this while waiting to get a job to pay for real hormones and antiandrogens, though. Its much better than any other herb or dietary change could be (and infinitely better than nothing.)

>>6914718
god fucking stop with this herbal bullshit. if you want estrogen buy estradiol because it's really fucking cheap.

and if you "want to grow teetays" you shouldn't be itt

>>6914753
That has been my first post about that ever though?

>>6914764
this is worse for you than self medding.

>>6914764(Me)
Additionally, I did heavily heavily recommend actual antiandrogens and hormones.

My stance on the pueraria is basically "smoke 'em if you got 'em", the availability is much better due to the fact that it is actually aboveboard sold-on-Amazon legal

milo is 31 and still looks early 20s. a lot of these guys seem to pull this off, how do they do it? Healthy lifestyles, vitamins, no smoking, moisturzing, what else?

>>6914782
>milo is 31 and still looks early 20s
not really

>>6914782
oh didn't you know? milo is literally satan, he doesn't age.

>>6914803

hes not hot at all but he definitely looks young

>>6914782
Makeup, lighting, photoshop

He's basically a model

>>6914782
>milo is 31 and still looks early 20s. a lot of these guys seem to pull this off, how do they do it? Healthy lifestyles, vitamins, no smoking, moisturzing, what else?

Have you seen him without makeup?

>>6915146
have you seen him with makeup

>>6914782
he looks like a 30-something trying really hard to be a 20-something

>>6915232
Yeah literally every single picture of him is him with makeup dude lmao

>>6914782
Milo was 23 last time I remember and that was around 2014 - he definitely is not 31 lol.

Other than that, genetics. Literally genetics. I'm 21 and I look great. I eat a ton and don't put weight on and I'm tall as fuck. I don't use makeup but I do have "meh" skin - nothing special.

>>6915329
no, he's 31

>>6914032
There is some data that I have categorized here:
>>6888880

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What is /femgen/'s education, or at least educational achievements so far?

>>6916724
High school with some college. I tried a few different fields that looked interesting over a couple of semesters but couldn't find something I really wanted to study. Now I just work with my dad as an equipment technician and it pays decently enough. Thank goodness for family connections

>>6916724
I have a master's degree in a subject I don't practice anymore.

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Are stepper machines a good form of exercise/helpful for a more feminine physique?

>>6917427
no

I used to be a figure skater and into biking, so now I have big thighs and calves (mostly calves).

I'm starting to get into skateboarding now though, do you think this will make my calves bigger?

Also, anyone know how to lose calf muscles?

>>6918228
>anyone know how to lose calf muscles?
It's basically impossible if you use your legs at all. Use a wheelchair until your muscles atrophy?

>>6918336

rip ;_;

will running/skateboard help with toning them at all? I don't know if it's muscle, or a combination of muscle+fat making them look big. I'm 5'8" and hovering around 140 pounds btw

>>6918368
Long distance running is supposed to help. Skateboarding definitely won't help.

Generally exercise that requires a lot of force over short periods of time (e.g., sprinting) will give you larger muscles, whereas exercise that requires low force over a long period of time will give you slimmer muscles.

>combination of muscle+fat
>5'8" and hovering around 140 pounds
Long distance running is a good choice if you want a slimmer physique.

how long do you have to take bica until stuff starts happening?

>>6918368
wtf. Its likely all fat at that weight. Im 6' (inb4 not fem) and 135 and i still have hella folds wile stitting and a protruding stomach from my waist

>>6918462
Depends on you. Can be as early as 2 weeks or as long as 2 months.

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>>6910957
what's the best online store for femboy-core

please help nothing in my general area suits me one bit

>>6919113
i find that hard to believe
where you at dog

>>6919284
Central Maine

>>6919343

These look promising and possibly better than spiro/cypro and possibly bica, but I guess there aren't any off-patent yet. Any thoughts?

>>tfw Sarina Valentina turned you bi instantly

>>6919413
Too expensive for most people without medical coverage. Also hard to find for self medders on top of being spendy. Maybe in 5-10 years after some patents have expired, they might become more commonly used.

>>6916724
Still in undergraduate.

>>6910957
>▶Is liking femguys considered gay or straight?
>Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
Get the fuck out, trying to inflate homosexuality statistics by casting as broad a net as plausibly possible.

If this is accepted, what next?
>If you like a woman with short hair you're gay
>If you like a woman with tits smaller than double-D you're gay
>If you like a woman who wears trousers your gay
NO
O

There is absolutely nothing homosexual about liking another human being who looks feminine.

>▶What is a femguy/femboy?
>... Mostly gay, but not all.
If they're not gay they should die in the fiery pits of hell.
Along with lesbians.

>>6918228
Nice calves are aesthetic regardless of sex.
See maisie williams, it's pretty much the only thing she get's complemented on.

>do you think this will make my calves bigger?
No, or else every single bodybuilder would simultaneously be a skateboarder.
Calves are, for the most part, genetic.

>>6918704
>135 at 6'
cute AF
>protruding stomach
Ehhh, not soo much

>>6918404
Not quite.
You build size by progressively adding resistance along side endurance.

>Sprint 100m and you can be skinny
>Walk 5000m and you can be skinny
>Sprint 5000m and you'll gain size
Shitty example but you get the picture.

It's why there are well established rep ranges for working out.
1-5 strength
8-12 hypertrophy
15+ endurance

>>6919113
Why is she soo popular on this board?
Wasn't she just doing the whole lesbian thing as a phase for attention?

>>6914847
The only thing not hot about him is his height
6'2?
Bit too much for me.

>>6919614
congratulations, you have been awarded "most autistic post of 2016"

>>6910957
Kill yerself faggot.

>>6919614
remind me never to let this line in the OP get taken out

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>>6919637
>>6919707
>implying I didn't just cut and paste my argument from memory
A cookie cutter rebuttal for a cookie cutter statement

>>6919659
>posting a tranny in the op
lgbt is tranny central

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>>6919784
I just pretend to be a granny because people get that, but really I'm just a dick starved 39 year old who wanted to be cute

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>>6919784
actually speaking of which have an femboys here gotten GRS and was it worth it

>>6919796
you're a str8 male who fell for the tranny meme

now you're just a cancerous tranny that doesn't pass

>>6919797
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

TRANNIES GET OUT

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>>6920008
you can still present as a femboy and not have a penis. I prefer it if you could just get it removed and not have to get a vagina in it's place, I'm sure that can be done.

>>6920008
ignore the trolling hons
the penis is goat

>>6920008
>you can still present
neck yourself

>>6920022
I would prefer to have the vagina added without having the penis removed.

>>6919796
>got 5 years older in the past year

>>6920075
that called a boipucci

>>6920075
Why not just get your asshole removed replaced with a vagina?

Haven't been to these threads in about a month
Are we still fighting over hrt?

>>6920423
the fuck do you mean by """we"""

>>6920423
We probably will be now that you brought up the fight again.

>>6920423
hrt is fine
having or wanting tits is not
wearing skirts/dresses is not
srs/orchie is not
jury's still out on ffs

>>6920538
What about just size A cups?

>>6920583
no. just take raloxifene and you can date normal gay guys.

>>6920621
But what if I want size A cups?

>>6920641
then go be trans
and if you aren't comfortable with the social transition go be nonbinary
the fem aesthetic is about flat chested androgyny. once you throw tits in the mix you go from gay to queer which is fine but that's not what we do here.

>>6920682
>gay to queer
what did he mean by this

>>6920694
That a male with a femboy with breasts is a queer relationship, not gay.

whats the difference lmao

>>6920746
its faggotry all the same, theres no fucking difference between gay and queer its all fags just like lesbos and trannies

>>6920819
when you throw around labels like "this is a general for femboys" you have to be a little more specific

>>6920874
itt: dudes who want to be twinks

>>6920891
is this another "i disagree with what he says so he must not really be fem" episode

>>6920903
it's a comment on this gen, which isn't very fem

>>6920941
it isn't, really. that's why we should try to be redirecting people to gaygen and mtfg more actively.

>>6920959
...only if they're trolling

I'm open to anyone being here as long as they want to fem and male or male gendered (ftm)

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Seeing as bica also causes increased estrogen levels, according to wikipedia in the low-normal female range:

>The estradiol concentrations produced by bicalutamide monotherapy in men are said to approximate the low-normal estradiol levels of a premenopausal woman,

Do you think it would be reasonable to just take bicalutamide and not even take estrogen?

>>6920682
A cup femboys are totally OK though

>>6922182
Yes that is reasonable and a common path

You might want to consider a tiny dose of raloxifene just to guard against osteoporosis, though

>>6922182
that works but you will get tits
>>6922984
lol die
>>6922991
he doesn't need it at all

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I feel like the effects of estrogen on sexuality have been greatly understated. My unfailing test of whether I was actually into something was how I felt after I woke up early in the morning, during that time when I hate anything. Other boys have always felt really gross during that time. But now I wake up with my boypussy aching for something to be jammed in it! I'm going to go crazy. Anyone else feel this way? If gay men are looking for a way to convert straight boys for their vile purposes, they should look at slipping them estrogen.

>>6919797
There were like a couple with nulo issues that did. Check archive.

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>>6914782
>>6915329
>>6915386
I'm not talking about Milo Yiannopoulos, I'm talking about Milo from NL who is 24-26 now.

>>6926127
literally who
fuck off

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>>6926153
Hahaha

Any qt femboys in Sydney?

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Hey we have a discord called Trap City, we usually hangaround, talk in voice, chill, play games and sometimes lewd it up.. Feel free to join :3

https://discord.gg/Vz6hvXG

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hey femgen how am i doing? i think i need my eyebrows touched up a little but im looking for advice on how i can look better

>>6927781
qt as fuck. Maybe consider a hairstyle that doesn't show as much forehead, but it doesn't look bad at all, from that angle at least.

>>6927767
The link expired

>>6927781
Not even trying to start shit but I really think you'd be better off posting in /mtfg/

>>6927781
elf/10
you need longer, pointier ears though
but i agree with >>6927787

>>6927767
tfw socially anxious hon
N-no t-thanks..

>>6927806
>posting in /mtfg/
>going anywhere near /mtfg/
I wouldn't wish that fate on anyone.

>>6927781
>tfw no crossdressing elf bf
why live?

>>6927781
Let's just say I want to kiss your entire body then take your butt to poundtown

How do I get better skin?

Wash body after waking up and before sleeping?

Anything that I should eat and avoid eating?

>>6927940
Rinse & moisturize in the morning.
Cleanse & moisturize at night.
Exfoliate once a week or so.
Don't go over the same spot too many times when shaving.
Wear sunscreen if you're going outside, even if it's cloudy.
Seek out a dermatologist if you have acne. Don't waste your time with over the counter products.
Eat whatever you want unless you have an actual allergy.

>>6927973
>Wear sunscreen if you're going outside, even if it's cloudy

What for exactly?

And are you sure that diet has no effect on skin?

>>6927992
not him, but the majority of UV rays pass through clouds

>>6927992
>What for exactly?
Clouds absorb more visible light than UV, so even if it doesn't look bright out there's still a lot of UV light hitting your skin.
>And are you sure that diet has no effect on skin?
It does, but the things I listed have a much larger effect.

>>6927998
But I mean, what are these rays' effect on skin exactly? I thought that sunscreen was just to avoid a tan

>>6928022
UV rays can give you burns and they give you skin damage + wrinkles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9BqrSAHbTc
here's a video that shows how UV hurts your skin

>>6927806
That's tranny beepbeep from mtfg, cray af
Wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't another tripfag who's shitposting w it's pic

Why would I want a femboy?

I was thinking how much I hate actual trannies but shemale porn is good.

Then I thought maybe femboys are alright even though I'm not that attracted to them.

I started thinking about it in my head and I'm sure why I'd ever choose you guys over a girl?

Aren't you guys just as high maintenance as girls?

Define high maintaince.

>>6928514
as with most things, it really depends on the specifics
in this case, it depends a lot on the femboy or girl in question
also of your current thoughts and thought processes
why do you hate trannies? what do you like about shemale porn?
and what do you value in a relationship?
some femboys don't require nearly as much maintenance as girls, others may require double or more
femboys also can't get pregnant, and can understand men more than most women
but, mind you, chasers don't seem to be very well received
i would assume that most people would want to be liked for who they are, rather than what they are
also, there's something about degenerates in general that makes them have dirty/unorganized rooms, it seems
i don't yet understand why every trap's room i've seen has junk all over the floor and walls, but i digress

I see "avoid meat" thrown around a lot when it comes to traps, but what about fish?
Is fish considered meat or should fish be avoided too?

>>6928614
what the fuck is a chaser

>>6928662
people who search for a certain, usually bodily, trait or group of traits (femboyishness, in this case) in people
chubby chasers (people who "chase" after chubby people, i.e. they find chubbiness sexy and thus search for chubby people) seem to be the best known example
it's a fetishistic thing, i think

>>6928693
cant you just like something and like the person

are chasers really a problem for you guys

>>6928614
>femgen
>chaser
get the fug out, tranny

back to /mtfg/ with you

this general is for feminine gay men

>>6928701
you totally can; it only seems to cause problems if you only like the something and not the person

i would think tranny chasers are a bit more prevalent, maybe because they're a bit more taboo to most people, but i haven't heard any complaints from femboys, so i'll give a tentative "no"

>>6928710
they asked a question and i answered, silly
>this general is for feminine gay men
▶What is a femguy/femboy?
An androgynous male with feminine and soft features. >Mostly gay, but not all.
>tfw your fem-mentor has a gf
i don't think things are so black-and-white, anon desu <3
but i will go regardless; gotta study fast

>>6928022
Pale=feminine

(What >>6928039 said is true, too, though.)

>>6928662
Someone who thinks you are attractive based on a non-personality characteristic, especially if that characteristic is not conventionally attractive

>>6928514
>aren't you guys just as high maintenance as girls
do you really think we need you to buy us shit and have you listen to our problems? we're guys. i just want someone hot i can smoke weed and play games with because double majoring is stressful

>>6928857
>Someone who thinks you are attractive based on a non-personality characteristic.
hello tumblard

Physical attractiveness is the first step in nearly any relationship, most people don't ask someone they find unattractive out on a date.

>>6928991
No shit

I actually disagree with the negative connotations associated with "chaser" which is why I phrased my definition in such brutally honest terms.

>he's a chaser! What a creep!
So... he likes you. for who you are. And it's a characteristic that you won't find a lot of love for in the world. This is somehow a bad thing?

>>6928965
Estrogen brain is more physiologically dependent on doting/attention than non-estrogen brain.

>>6929030
femboys take raloxifene now
estrogen is for trannies

>>6928651
Cats eat fish, so you should eat fish.

>>6928651
fish is amazing for you and you should never cut it out of your diet

>>6928651
cute boys eat fish
ugly masculine men eat pork

>>6929093
Cats have literally zero redeeming qualities. Anything positive a cat does can be accomplished way better by other animals.

>>6929181
Except for being cute.

>>6929187
Some dog breeds are cuter than any cat. Try again

>>6929194
Post an example.

>>6928965
would you be okay with your boyfriend never working

>>6929239
i wouldn't financially support my boyfriend and i wouldn't date him if he had no ambitions.

>>6929258 (me)
well I'd obviously support him if he was between jobs or something but to answer your question, no

>>6929194
Dogs have gone through so much inbreeding that they barely know what they are anymore.
Cats have always been small, lithe, and cute.

>>6929258
What if his ambitions were low and didn't desire anything above enough money just to get by?

>>6929258
i have ambitions except i just don't know how to accomplish them

>>6929276
>>6929279
that's fine honestly and i really try to emphasize leisure in my life. i think after i graduate i'm just going to get my uncle's RV (it's fucking luxurious. 40 feet long, hardwood floor, furniture and like 9mpg) and spend a lot of time traveling. but i really want to find a fulfilling career.

check out this guy. he's already a femboy without even being on hormones
http://i.4cdn.org/lgbt/1474304233745.png

wew

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>>6922786
>Tfw giant thread dedicated to femboys getting sexually harassed

>>6929393
proportions scream underage to me, or very very low test

>>6929393
yeah, so is every other fat person.

so do SERMs actually not fuck with your fertility / give you boobs or is that just a meme

>>6929393
that shit looks kleinefelters to me

>>6929393
not only is he young but you can have hormonal imbalances without being on mones.

I've got gyno and wide hips despite never touching the stuff. I also lactated during my puberty years.

>>6929965
The main nuclear estrogen receptor in breast tissue is the alpha estrogen nuclear receptor. By acting as an antagonist at the alpha estrogen nuclear receptor, breast growth can be blocked.

>>6930026
Does that also mean you lose out on the skin fullness and other nice stuff?

>>6914084
see
>>6891641
>>6891911
There's a pretty good amount of info in that thread.

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I'm 5'5"...

Do I have potential?

>>6930249
The beta estrogen nuclear receptors are not antagonized by the SERM, otherwise it would be more accurately called an antiestrogen. (Note, you could have a SERM with the opposite pattern, almost no one refers to them though.) They instead act as agonists there. So then, the answer to your question will depend upon which receptor is responsible for which feminization effect. For the skin, the beta receptors are more prevalent, so it should work.
>>6930363
That post links to a thread with some useful information. Remember, tamoxifen can cause cognitive dysfunction, so use raloxifene instead. Yes, one ends with the letter "e" and the other does not. No, I do not know why that is the case.

>>6930403
standard masc frame
you can't have a passing female body or anything but you can probably be cute assuming T hasn't also fucked your face

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>>6930576
Even with hormones?

maybe if i change my posture a bit...

>>6930579
i don't know how much of your ribcage and shoulder width is bone. regardless i would definitely still be able to clock you if you were trapping just off your proportions. if you block T and get on raloxifene you will start shedding muscle quickly and then you'll see how thick your frame really is. my advice for you is to turn back unless you're trans in which case you shouldn't be here

>>6930581
I've been doing martial arts for almost 9 years, so there's a pretty high portion of muscle. You can't see it from that angle, but my traps are ridiculous.

I have absolutely no fat in my hips right now, I assumed hormones would change that and give me a pretty decent figure.

What do you mean by turn back?

I doubt I'm trans, but who knows... The thought of trying out hormones is crossing my mind after all...

Does bica decrease masc pheromones/scent?

>>6930589
you aren't exactly made for being fem. but yeah i'd wager the martial arts instruction has made you very masculine in proportion.

>>6930594
yes

>>6930617

Alright because I'm switching from spiro to bica and I feel paranoid and keep like smelling myself and wondering lol.

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>no hair on my body or my butt
>a ring of hair on my butthole
Why.jpg
If I had body hair it would be easy and painless but removing it off a place that's sensitive as fuck is impossible. .

>>6931134
use a razor, pussy

>>6931141
I already tried that.

>bleeding butthole.jpg

>>6929393
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>>6931192
2n5 boys have boiboobs tho

>>6931270
the boy above has a slight hint of boiboobs too tho

>>6931279
Just not seeing it Jim

>>6931152
Get it waxed then.

>>6930617
so there's hope?

How big if a chance do I have of being found out if I do go on hormones?

>>6929393
stop posting yourself

>>6931522
but he already has slightly puffy nipples, Tim

>>6932289
Then the waxing doctor will see the poo around my butthole ;-;
(I'm only 19 so idk how to wipe well yet)

>>6934037
That post is more disturbing than the most disturbing /tf/ porn on /d/.

How many showers does one need to take per day to maintain a nice level of hygiene?

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>>6934037

>>6934429
Well it all depends on how much you sweat and what you eat.
If you live somewhere where it is really hot and you eat greasy food, definitely wash every day with shower gel.
If not (if you eat fruit/vegies and don't sweat so much) you can shower every other, maybe even less.
Don't use shower gel every day tho, your skin needs rest so use it only 2-3 times a week.
Also, cold showers are really good for your skin and body in general.

>>6932390
there is, but not much

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So what's the late game looking like for fem bois?
How does a fem boi look like once he reaches his older, middle ageish years?

>>6934732
With HRT, more towards female-typical.

>>6934732
Without HRT you just become a normal looking male, and with HRT is just >>6934771

It's really nothing to be scared about.

>>6934879
How old is the split between honboy and femboy?

>>6934881
I don't really understand the question

when is it too late to become a grill

what age?

>>6934888
When's the latest point when someone can starting taking HRT to avoid looking like a man?

>>6934897
-0.75 years.

>>6934889
>>6934732
>>6934889
>>6934897

>>6934116

>>6934897
That differs for everyone. There are trannies that take HRT since 14 and look like guys, and there are 25 years old guys that look like girls without HRT.
It's literally just genetics. "Too old" can be 14 or 35.

If you want a more direct answer: take them and find out if you want because there's no way to know.

>>6914032
Are you telling me that if I take Raloxifene with an AA I will experience feminization without breast growth?

>>6934919
that's the whole point of taking raloxifene

>>6934920

Raloxifene affects bone and blocks estrogen activity in the breasts, but does it affect other things like fat and skin?

>>6934929
it stimulates estrogen receptors. that's what normal estrogen does too. it doesn't stimulate all of them. raloxifene in particular doesn't stimulate breast estrogen receptors and instead impedes their stimulation. it's weird that something that specific exists, but it's a godsend for femboys.

i really don't understand all the hormone confusion here. it's very simple information available in the pastebin. if you want to look fem, you need to stop testosterone reception (that's the AA) and then everything else is secondary to that.

I just hear of Raloxifene for the first time. Is it correct that I can take it with an AA and experience feminization without breast growth? That would be ideal. What dosage range for 6 feet 130 lbs? I'm somewhat feminine already except for my Adam's apple. Thanks.

>>6934948
just curious. did you read the pastebin before you decided to post

>>6934948
>>6934929
We have no data on facial fat tissue, although skin should be fine. Fat tissue in the abs are not affects that much by estrogen, female-typical is the default in the absence or blockade of androgens. Fat tissue in the glutes should be fine.

>>6934947

>it stimulates estrogen receptors

It stimulates "some" estrogen receptors and blocks other. As far as I can tell it stimulates receptors in bone. So if you want like female skin/etc. wouldn't you need some normal estrogen to do all of the other stuff?

>if you want to look fem, you need to stop testosterone reception

That's like one important part of it but I think one would also need estrogen to go from andro to feminine?

>>6935002

Like according to wikipedia it activates the ER in bone and blocks the ER in breasts. So why assume it activate it in other tissues?

Although being on bica I can imagine might increase estrogen production enough to the point where exogenous estrogen isn't necessary.

>>6935012
This thread has a lot of information, including citing research on estrogen receptor isoform distribution:
>>6888880

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Why do I smell like estrogen

>>6935045
because you're a tranny

>>6934957
Yes, it does not mention lack of breast growth on Raloxifne

>>6935159
maybe

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>tfw someone on a different board calls you "low test"

>>6935169
kek

>>6935162
i'll add something into it later thanks

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>>6935169
they would never be able to even comprehend the powers that we hold

>>6935045
how does estrogen smell like?

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>>6937645
I have no idea but I'm sure my body smell changed too to a very distingishable odor (that smells really good and arousing actually)
I think that's what he's talking about.

>>6937642
>tfw can't buy online so I get the pills from local pharma
>cheapest bicalutamide brand is $170 for 30 pills of 50mg

Jesus fucking christ

>>6937653
Somehow get insurance to cover it.

>>6937653
And that should be good for 2 months, as you really just need 25mg per day for gender transition/femboyism, high is really just useful for androgen-dependent cancers.

>>6937682
I'm too retarded to know how to deal with the process and also I live with my family and they will easily find out.

>>6937693
85 dollars per month just for the AA? And then more costs with the estrogen and finasteride?
If I had that kind of money I would go get a rhinoplasty by now

i want an uncircumcised femboy bf to snuggle and lovingly succ

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Does anyone know which type of orchi I should have for my balls not to end up looking like cannibalized craters? I saw Sarina Valentina and theirs look natural and non-botched compared to other orchi results.

>>6937745
>orchi
>ruining ur srs

>>6937745
kill yourself

>>6937745
you are not welcome here

>>6937834
>>6937983
>implying boys can't have an orchi

>>6938034
cool, take it to the right thread then, disgusting fuck

>>6938054
settle down there, big boy

>>6937708
In any non-stupid jurisdiction, you can use your parent's health insurance without them finding out what you are doing. Having insurance cover it is likely as simple as having a doctor write a prescription for it.

I don't see much wrong with an orchi 2bh, as long as the actual dick is still there and functional.

That said I would never do it, I'd rather stay on cypro for life.

>>6938064
>Likely eventually needing a liver transplant.

>>6938062
shut the fuck up, rat

>>6938066
Nah fuck that meme. Eventually your balls give up and you can take almost nothing to supress your T, even every other day.

>>6938066
if you take bicalutamide your balls don't die

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so considering doing porn it an easy way to save up for ffs. However my regiment was 100mgs cyproterone and 4mgs estrogen. Now I have some a cups but the thats not a huge deal my problem is going into porn you kinda need to cum alot.

So would stopping cypro and taking bicalcumide or however you spell it help my cum production go up or should I figure out a way to fake it?

also is there a way to feminize myself super quick cause it's been 9 months and I'm not all all happy with face results. might need ffs inb4 tranny I'm just a guy okay with having a cups

>>6938144
>doing porn
>ffs
>cypro
>estrogen
>tits
>anime girl
this is next level trolling thank you mtfg

>>6938150
>face FEMINIZATION surgery
>FEMboys
>FEMININE boys
??

>>6938144
kill yourself

>>6938165
I want ffs to get rid of my man jaw, its not cute at all

>>6938218
>tfw roman nose ruining literally everything

I HATE IT
IM SO ANGRY

>>6938243
>disgusting roman nose
same

>>6937834
>>6938174
>>6937983
get out bitter balding mascfaggot

>>6938265
>ANOTHER "if you don't like trannies in femgen you must be masc" episode

>>6938269
You are an insecure repressed tranny though

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>>6938150
I'm not trolling like cute boys can get a cups and ffs. I just want to do porn to pay for ffs there was a point where I was delusional and wanted to be a woman but now I see the light that it's far easier to be a cute boy ;3

also felix/ferris from re-zero is a guy.

>>6938253
>>6938218
this omg I hate my face like my body is fem as fuck so much so I fooled guys on soc into thinking Imma girl but my face ruins it imma be a dullahan or wear a bag over my face.

>>6938286
>if you don't like trannies invading your general and appropriating the term "femboy" you must also be trans

>>6938303
>>if you don't like
No, more like
>if you literally can't stop bitching about

>>6938269
what trannies?
did the roids melt your brain or something you prematurely aged hulkbro? we aren't delusional faggots thinking they are the opposite sex so stop calling us that

let me tell you that we will do EVERYTHING to stay young-looking even if it means cutting off our balls and that amount of dedication should be applauded, not shunned. enjoy dying 6 years earlier than me from testosterone-related health complications, bro

>>6938299
I have an okay face but my nose (from the profile) instantly clocks me

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ohio

>>6938340
columbus?

>>6938313
>if you complain about yet another femboy community being overridden with hons you're bitching
it happened to /cb/, /cd/, and i guess now /lgbt/
>>6938326
>distancing yourself this hard
>>6938335
>clocks

femgen on life support rn

>>6938350
>traps are trannies
Traps are femboys as long as they keep the dick and identify as a guy.

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>>6938326
I love you for this post it true tho had I had an orchi at 14 my life would be perfect why do you need a functional dick when you got a boipussy am i rite

>>6938372
so
if you're 10 years on estrogen, you cut your balls off, you're all hips, your hair is down to your waist, you got ffs, and your D cup breasts tell everyone you're female...you're a guy as long as you say you are.
and the trannies are the mentally ill ones.
jesus christ.

>>6938350
we are men, bra
we aren't dress-wearing cock-mutilating basket case freaks you think we are
go take your paranoia-riddled peabrain back to /mascgen/ broski

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>>6938350
haha omg you were on /cd/ like trannies took that board over with no struggle X3 and the lingo you know hon, clocked, lol I think you're a tranny m8

>>6938414
i stopped reading after "we aren't cock-multilating" because the thread topic is castrating yourself right now

>>6938402
>had I had an orchi at 14 my life would be perfect
same t b h
i would be even more cute than i am now and getting cocks like crazy
>why do you need a functional dick
i honestly don't care about my cock as long as it's attached to my body. i tried to picture my life without it but i simply can't

>>6938425
castrating = cutting off your balls
cock mutilating = cutting off your cock (and turning it into a mangina)

how can you even equate those two you bumbling retard?

>>6938412
That doesn't make sense

Fiest you say "tell everyone you are female" and then "you are a guy as long as you say you are"

What??

>>6938433
so true and the surgery looks like an axe wound lol so glad I have that delusional thinking behind me, so I'm fine with my tiny dick just tired of my balls trying to poison me with testosterone. like could you imagine not going through puberty shit would have been so sweet.

>femgen is always either dead or full of shitposting

someone put these threads out of their misery

>>6938440
comedy gold
>>6938461
>your D cup breasts tell
>breasts is the subject
>tell is the verb
>>6938475
i would if i could

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>>6938414
I hope I'm not the only one that thinks some dresses and girls clothes are cute as fuck feel like the odd man out.

>>6938467
I actually like my functioning dick because sometimes is nice to just look up some thicc anime girl lewds and masturbate normally, you know just to change a bit from the butt play

>>6938482
>comedy gold
That's your argument? Castration has literally nothing to do with a functioning dick.

>>6938491
>testicles do not affect dick function
wew lad

>>6938496
From the lack of testosterone just like AAs, certainly doesn't mean you have to cut off your dick

>>6937718
hold me

>>6938467
it would be so amazing indeed
i probably wouldn't have a 7 inch dick but at least i'd be super cute and wouldn't have to fork over money for a fucking rhinoplasty for my ugly roman nose

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>>6937718

>>6938522
uh, grills have fucked up noses too. that's more genetics than it is hormones.

why the fuck do so many femgenners think hrt just magically turns one into a fairy

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>>6938532
Bc hormones are magic

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>>6938412
>D-cups breasts
Not even trannies get those and you think a femboy on hormones can get them?

You seem pretty ignorant, dumb and naive, bud. You are probably some butthurt /fit/ manletino who believes government dumps chemical estrogen in the water supply and that's why your dick doesn't work anymore and now you are jelly of femboys who can get hard even with all that estrogen flowing through their veins.

>>6938546
>estrogen flowing through their veins.
Meant SERMs*

>>6938548
It can make your nose better but certainly not fix a roman nose, that's pure bone.

t. roman nosed faggot on hrt

>>6938551
serm is estrogen senpai

>>6938548
>shave off beard
>get curls
>skincare
>find excellent lighting

MAGIC

>>6938532
grills don't generally grow noses as big as dudes do, dude

>>6938522
well it's plausible due to skipping puberty you'd retain more feminine features but I'm not sure if test affects features but it's not doubt to me test affects bone structure to be more masculine look at bill kalutiz or however you spell his name. had he not gone through puberty he'd probably still look so angelic.

did you know there's a disease that prevents puberty god I wish I had it read about it on cracked the guy was a perf femboi and ruins his body with t. I'd give anything to live that guys life XD

>>6938548
he wouldn't take kindly to having this posted

>>6938563
you're going to kill yourself at 35 because your life is nothing but vanity

>>6938565
https://kallmannsyndrome.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/delayed-or-absent-puberty/

this is it of of all the disease I had to get dysphoria would have been way better off with this.

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>>6938557
SERMs tend to be amine and ketone based substances than stand alone hormones (i.e. sterols, like estradiol is). But whatever it works the same shit.

>>6938572
Stop projecting

>>6938572
bro please, my peter pan syndrome will motivate me to live forever compared to you, a testo-ridden gym bunny bro dying a severe heart failure at the same age

>>6938591
so this is what despair looks like

>>6938565
i know for a fact my nose would turn out okay if it wasn't for puberty. it looked not so prominent, small and kinda cute
>>6938579
i heard about it but if you don't introduce estrogens soon enough you'll grow up awkwardly tall and lanky so this syndrome is rather tricky

don't wanna be some big eunuchoid monster

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>>6938602
pic related
you at 35 (yes, that's how your hairline and your face will look like lmao)

>>6938475
some many neets and mentally ill are sucked into tranny meme and femgen is basically an off shoot of that - faggots pumping their bodies w hormones in hopes of being cute

legit femboy's are rare, and so femgen is populated with the above instead

>>6938614
just stick your fingers and your ears and poke your tongue out at me. it'd be way more flattering than this.

>>6938622
You've fallen into the femboy version of the TRUtrans meme now, congratulations. You are a real elitist retard now.

>>6938299
Agreed on A sized cups and FFS.

>>6938591
hey limp dick,
you realise hrt contributes to all types of vascular problems, not to mention increase risk of cancer(s)

>>6938483
Occasional cross dressing is fine.

>>6938491
Breeder!

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http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/inothernews/14755585.Prankster_on_sex_offender_s_register_after_pulling_man_s_trousers_down_in_pub/

>York Crown Court heard Peggs then asked the victim what his natural hair colour was before lifting up the teen's shirt so he couldn't see, grabbing his jeans and pulling them down to expose his pubic hair.

>The victim, who had been in the smoking shelter of The Navigation pub with a female friend, pulled his clothes back on and said he felt "angry and upset".

>The pub's landlord and landlady said that they later noticed the victim crying.
tfw want to bully femboys like this

>>6938673
Nah, androgyny is what's cool.

>>6938689
>dude was a 41 year old european chef

so you like... see yourself in him?

>>6938677
I literally can't breed. I have like 500 kilograms of cypro in my nutsack

>>6938695


read this part faggot


before lifting up the TEEN's shirt so he couldn't see, grabbing his jeans and pulling them down to expose his pubic hair.

>>6938622
Most of us are in university, senpai.

>>6938673
and wearing them outside is okay too I'm not a girl just like getting mistaken for one.

>>6938649
yee glad I meet the standards not to be a tranny

>>6938607
Being extremely tall and lanky would be fine for me.

>>6938645
no, just a twink who grew up

>>6938673
>>6938483
80% of my clothing is fem

>>6938690
andro is the master race

>>6938673

only if you pass for a cisgirl.

>>6938700
I read it. That's not what makes this funny to me.

>>6938340
ohbyeo

>>6938649
And make sure to wear bras for those a cups, don't let those girls sag :^)

>>6938717
>>80% of my clothing is fem

still a fatty. cannot buy clothes yet.

I'm thinking boyfriend cut jeans, sneakers, joggers and a lot of scoop neck t-shirts.

would anyone care to see if my body is fem at all? sometimes I think it is other times I think I'm just wishing it was or something.

>>6938736
dont buy until youre at a stable weight

>>6938744
Whats a good weight for being fem? I'm currently ~5'8" at 125Ibs some is muscle but I can stand to lose more weight

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>>6938689
>tfw never bullied this hard.

hnnng I just want someone to man up and make their bitch :/

>>6938749
that's honestly a fine weight to be at depending on your frame.

>>6938744
oh, ik. It's been a long, irritating process.

>>6938731
ahhh can a cups really sag cause if so I'm fucked X/

>>6938626
>t. salty masclet

>>6938760
Actually they can desu, but not until later in life
t. Dr. Cynthia S. Vaughn

>>6938755
Im not fem but i hope to be one day
33.5" bust
28" waist
32.5" hip
17" shoulders t-t

>>6938717
>just a man who will die sooner than everyone here
Fixed for accuracy

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>>6938743
Doing it anyways.

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>>6938793
Nice boobs

>>6938785
>17" shoulders
>i hope to be fem one day
oh boy, aren't you in for a disappointment

>>6938793
wew kid

>>6938793
>angles
>tits
>pubes
>women's underwear
petition for mods to delete future femgen threads pls sign here

>>6938806
I love my a cups just the right size yo I wear a hoodie and they are never visible it's awesome just wish everything else looked as femmy.

>>6938793
where the h*ck is your dick

>>6938820
shut up pubes are awesome, dipshit

>>6938820
>>6938828

yeh, well-kept pubies are for cuties

>>6938820
All true except the pubes part I'd post my dick to probe it but this board sure loves Jesus. Those arent girls underwear I bought them at the gap boobs well yeah I take hormones rather not die of test poisoning.

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>>6938809
Not because I'm already a disappointment :'^)

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>>6938828
Its there I has one I sware.

>>6938848
>I'd post my dick to probe it but this board sure loves Jesus
there's always imgur or unsee, pham

>>6938828
>>6938834
Ahh bummer y'all like pubes um I could do them in like a heart shape pattern when they grow back.

>>6938736
>just be the best version of you
being fem isn't just about your size

>>6938789
>man
hey, I'll take that as a compliment anyday

being all natty and built like a junior lifeguard, I'll bet my twinky ass could kick your ass any day of the week :^)

twink fight! lol

>>6938875
Personally I have it done like a landing strip t b h

>>6938880
did someone say naked twink wrestling, turkish oil wrestling rules?

>>6938865
True. Um I guess I can do that.

http://m.imgur.com/24bybOv

I want to watch a femboy squirm and make cute noises while I succ!

>>6938897
where u frum bb

>>6938897
wew lad

how long have you been on fem'n'ems btw?

>>6938900
not if I succ you first!

>>6938904
I live in the south it sucks and I hate it here lol live in tn

>>6938913
Bout um 9 months so far cypro nuked my ability to cum but I love everything so far hope I get curvier x3

>>6938895
a bouncer once told about he would stop twinks from slapping each other around.

all he had to do was literally pick one up and carry them upstairs, and their eyes would just get swollen with tears

>>6938922
when we gon fuck tho

>>6938935
Did it do anything to your face?

>>6938954
>tfw no bouncer to carry me upstairs

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>>6938962
Not sure are you a strong dominant man who can ride my tight ass for hours whipping me and pulling my leash tight?

>>6938966
Not really puberty rekt my face so I'm going to need a ton of ffs one day but I guess my body looks okayish.

This was me at 17 when began to hit.

>>6939037
when we gon fuck tho

>>6938793
Very female-typical. :-)

>>6939037
>began

>>6938954
Why would they be crying?

>>6939116
My voice did change till I was 17 desu and I didn't get taller I'll admit my face looked like trash still did but I'd give anything to be tiny again lol.

>>6939063
Name the time and place anon I'm kinda a slut.