Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1756

Looks like DJT is finally dead for good. Bravo mod.

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1.You will never master Japanese.
2.Commite seppuku.

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二年間日本語を勉強しているのに、まだ日本語が話せない
自殺したいよ

>>67938718
>>>/a/

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>>67939290
Please. What do you think this is? I am reading the nihongo right now

>check /a/ for djt yesterday
>no djt
>check /a/ for djt today
>still no djt

>>WAIT A MINUTE

what the fuck happened

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>>67939306
英語を10年以上勉強している僕はどうしたらいいですか?
>>67939353
It just seems like a scene from eroge or something.

>posting the same meme over and over is allowed and encouraged >>50244109
>talking about manga isn't
good to know

nani yatten da mod-kun!?

>>67939548
Oh, yeah. /int/. >>>/a/150244109

>>67939496
Legit would rather have it here.

I haven't browsed /a/ regularly in years. That place has been /v/ 2.0 since 2012. /int/ is still a redeemable board. I guess the best place for it would be /jp/. That's another board that's gone to shit lately, but in a different way.

やっぱりdjtは死んだ。

>>67939353
i have like 0 grammar with limited vocab.

どうして、イチャイチャしてるのを止めるの?

what does の do at the end of of sentence?
what does this してるの mean and do?

thanks in advance

>>67939581
>/int/ is still a redeemable board.
hahaha

>>67939581
>/int/ is still a redeemable board.
You can't possibly be serious.

So why not move to /jp/

Flags definitely won't improve the quality of djt

>>67939670
>>67939677
Fuck off, /int/ is かっこいい

>>67939733
They hate our guts apparently.

>>67939733
>>67931175

>>67939791
Thanks m8, still catching up on everything that happened

>>67939613
イチャイチャしてるのこと

>>67939613
Hopefully someone who's not a beginner answers you too. But basically the first の nominalizes the verb because you usually can't append a verb directly to particles like を が に, you can also do that by using こと instead. The other の emphasizes the sentence and can be used in questions too instead of か

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here is your jp word for the day >>>/a/

過疎る

bye

>>67939613
Adding の to the end of a verb makes it a gerund, or essentially a verb's "ing" form. Think of it in English terms: you can't say "Why did you stop make out?" You have too many verbs in a row. You have to change it to "Why did you stop makING out?" Same concept.

>>67939613
止めるの? this の is an emphasis to ask something.

してるの not always but this の is an abbr of 事(thing/matter). you can replace it with してる事 in that context. してる roughly means "doing". why/how come you stop ichaicha-ing?

>>67939791
tldr but i repeat, its better to move this thread to a different board.

It's up to YOU to decide djt's future now

http://www.strawpoll.me/11744293

>>67940315
Where is the /a/ option?

>>67940315
>>67940386
fixed
http://www.strawpoll.me/11744316

>>67940386
>>67940481

Because mods decided that DJT is no longer welcome on /a/

You are aware why we're here, right?

>>67940528
>It's up to YOU to decide
>b-but mods...
nicee

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what the fuck is this weeb shit thread doing on my fucking board. get the fuck outta here weebs.

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>>67940630
What are you talking about, dude?

>>67940630
Tell them https://www.4chan.org/feedback
Nobody but a few autistic mods wants DJT here.

>>67939928
Sticking to one word per day is too easy. Maybe two or three words will do. It's easier if you learn it root by root which is something English has very few and made the vocab harder to learn than the Japanese vocab. For example 記念:

記念日

記念場:
記念館
記念碑

記念大会:
記念式典
記念祭

記念品 / 物:
記念論文集
記念誌

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>>67940630
Wow, she looks disgusting. At least post someone pretty if you're going to post 3d.

No one wants to be here with you either.

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Doing core for a month with 10 new cards per day and keep having shit retention like 50-70%. Should I wait until it gets better or just give up and set new cards to 20 right away?

>>67941101
Mature is the only percent that matters.
>100%
Doing great, anon. Have confidence in yourself and shoot for the stars.

>>67940528
DJT has existed on 8ちゃん's /a/ for a while.
Could we use that? The board mod there would be happy to see more people on the board and not kick us out.

>>67941546
That means limited new blood though. New people were always coming in after seeing it on /a/ when browsing other subjects.

>kick DJT out of /a/ because muh generals
>its going to be nothing but garbage CG threads for months and mods are going to allow it
wtf I hate /a/ now

>>67941650
>New people were always coming in after seeing it on /a/
You and I both know that isn't true at all.

>>67941546
Fuck no.

>>67940942
>Sticking to one word per day is too easy. Maybe two or three words will do.

okay, here's three words

過疎る
クソスレ
断末魔

Anybody has finished the core? Does it worth it?

Personaly, I have been on it for a year and I only have slightly more than 2000 matures.

>>67941726
Except it is. That's how most of us got into djt.

>>67930829
>From an American mindset, I don't fucking care how I get the degree. It's the only way you can enter Japan besides getting married.
>Try to remember Japan does not offer holiday working visas to Americans like they do to Europoors.
So, were Americans the real Mexicans all along?

>>67942082
I finished in less than a year, now 2 years from the start I have 5900 matures from it.
It's alright but has a bunch of useless katakana and it didn't need to have all those synonyms for your first vocabulary learning. It was horrible back then with near 300 words a day, but it was worth it looking back.

This flag bullshit is bullshit.

What are we doing on this shitty board.

The next thread had better be back on /a/.

>>67943665
/a/ is 1000 times shittier than /int/ but I agree on one point, that point being you cunts getting the fuck out asap

>>67944029
>/a/ is 1000 times shittier than /int/
it's the other way around

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>>67944223

>>67944693
>le epic trump meme
Yeah, exactly.

だんだん涼しくなる天気
だんだん静かなるこのスレ

>>67944852
まあまあ、メキシコ君、落ち着きましょう、冗談だけ冗談ね!誰もメキシコ君を追放しません!

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What is she saying? I know he's using ganji, but i can't comprehend the rest.

So we all agree that /int/ and flags are going to hurt this thread


why not move to jp?

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>>67944852
you will never learn the nihongos if you can't appreciate a good trump maymay

it's past midnight here, so goodnight

enjoy never learning Japanese ever

>>67945190
>>67945190
How many times do we have to answer this same question?

/jp/ has an autistic mod who hates our guts and deletes our threads literally seconds after being posted.

>>67945293
But they've had a general about onaholes for ages now

rename /daily japanese thread/ to /eternal japanese thread/ and we should be fine desu

Gotta love how the staff tries to force quality then 180's with the JINBUN WOOO stuff.

Not that I care about the latter, it's actually just silly.

>>67945189
Context?
Sounds like つか、外人同士ならうちにいわなくても to me

>>67945353
It's a MMORPG, we are doing a raid.

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So I just learned ALL of the hiragana and memorized the shit out of it. I can read sequences of hiragana that make up words now

Pretty proud of myself.

I know some katakana and am about to memorize it too.

What comes next?

Do I need to learn grammar?
Do I need to memorized a bunch of kanji?

what do?

>>67945353
My take on it: If you are involved with foreigners, don't talk to me!

How off the mark is this? I love misunderstandings generating trouble.

>>>/jp/16170301

There, testing the waters

>>67945189
why do i care when its something gaijins do each other

that japanese is pretty broken. いわんくても means 言わなくても but its unusual.

>>67945394
>>67945562
I'm not 100% myself (I need to read more on うちに) but it sounds like "You should have mentioned we have a foreign party member beforehand" but less direct.

>>67945394
wasn't she a third person about the topic then? she looks like she could do nothing so it's troublesome that you(?) asked her for something to solve the problem(?). she appears to have just said that she wants foreignerS to solve troubles by their own.

>>67945331
/jp/ is full of generals, that's right. Hell, /jp/ itself is pretty much just a touhou general. Doesn't change the fact that their mod spergs out as soon as he sees anything remotely similar to /djt/.

仕方がない

>>67945581
>putting the subject on the name section
You have one simple job, and even more simpler than tractor simulator. Jesus Christ.

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>>67945505
You just gave me an idea, anon.

Maybe we could try and write a guide for beginners with similar questions, so we can put it on the OP and help them.

>>67945724
I think they don't like DJT because there is IRL chitchat (even if it's about learning Japanese).

Which is pretty funny, seeing how the draw thread is full of it (and serving no purpose) and no one gives a shit.

>>67945733
it's fine, djt is in the actual post

>>>/jp/djt

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Do VNs in general come with a "fast forward" button when going through scenes/routes you've already taken, allowing for an easier exploration of the alternative paths?

The only one I've ever played was that Bernd one and it was really, REALLY nice having that feature. I'm a bit assburger on the completion end and that allowed me to voluntarily kill myself multiple times just to see all possibilities. Or even going through wrong routes just for unlocking one or two additional dialogues/jokes.

>>67946018
Yes. Hold Ctrl, generally. Or there's usually an autoskip as well.

>>67946018
What >>67946188 said. Skip. By default it should only skip text you've seen, but there should be options to allow it to skip new text as well if you just want to jump to the next ero scene.

>>67945581
Is this the next evolution of the shitposters? Make djt threads all over the place to try and make people pissed off at djt?

>>67945581
Well, at least he didn't delete it this time, just banished it to some limbo where it both exists and doesn't exist at the same time.

>>67947693
Was wondering about that. Images don't load, doesn't show up on search but at the same time it doesn't show as 404.

>>67947810
I'll take it as the first step towards acceptance.

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>>>/jp/16170563
>I'm not saying it that this situation is ideal, however you have to realise that you don't get to push everyone else aside because you don't like them. I mean really, you all seem to hate /jp/ so much and yet you want us to welcome you.
I don't get where the "hate /jp/" comes from - I use /jp/ way more than I use /a/.
And I'm not pushing anything - as a matter of fact, the post where you quoted me I was saying the anon claiming he received "mod approval" was being dishonest.

Pic related is from the "Japanese thread" on /int/ you quoted, where everyone seems to agree it'd be a better place for DJTers to go and mingle.

(Posting here just for the hell of it, since the thread got deleted.)

>people here trying to aruge /djt/ was ever any good.

The only time I made real gains is when I stopped listening to /djt/. It has always been shit, and only gives shit advice.

>>67947933

No, like I've said buddy. It isn't ideal, but this jump that's happened is entirely unfair on /jp/ and on you guys since you've been moved off a board with ample space. There's been zero consultation or even a polite request.

And we can see that from the chucklefuck above us who are more than eager to disregard /jp/ in the process of move this general into a board that's already got more than it's fair share of generals.

From my own perspective, it's a simple case that you just don't want to interact with the wider board because you're used to your sanitised environment of /a/.

>>67948238
CON

Which isn't really enough to justify having your own general or being moved to a board that has a similar environment.

>find djt 4 years ago
>become fluent
>see now djt has died
>less people become fluent
>i become more special
>mfw im kind of happy

>>67948145
Not all people are the same. What works for you might not work for someone else, and so on.

>>67948313
なぜうそをつけるだい

>>67948321
50% of /djt/ is meme 49% is blatant shit posting and meta posting, only 1% is constructive. Even reddit is better than this shit hole. Everything you need to know is in the OP, no need to read the endless shit posting.

>>67948313
DJT advice is pretty spot on though. Obviously bad advice too but even the bad advice tends to be better than pretty much everything people manage to do outside of DJT.

>>67948463
did you respond to the wrong person?

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>>67948238
From my own perspective, it's a simple case that you just don't want to interact with /a/ posters because you're used to your sanitised environment of /jp/.

>>67948463
No one should read anything but the OP.

>>67948592

Not at all.

I'm a massive crossboarder. I typically visit about 20ish different boards.

>>67948595
Where do you think the info on the OP guide came from?
Sure, most discussions are very unproductive in terms of learning, but they offer an environment where people talk about it until useful content comes out and gets "canonized".

>>67948671
Well, my answer to you is the same; I'm very cosmopolitan myself, but I don't see how DJT being in /jp/ is seen as such an absurd idea.

>>67948575
Yes
>>67948595
Then why are you here

>>67948750
To laugh at you and finally end /djt/

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>>67948722
Why shouldn't it be here?
It's offtopic on /jp/, not to mention no one fucking wants another general.

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>learning a barbaric language just to masturbate to cartoons

>>67941546
I wish it wasn't so dead, because that board has the ability to attach files. Embedding .pdfs seems really useful in the context of learning language, desu.

>>67949293
No, silly. One day I will make my own sugoi anime in Japan. Whether I open my "Q&A thread" on future-/a/ or future-/int/ while shitting on /a/ will depend on this very important week.

>>67948722
>Where do you think the info on the OP guide came from?
A redditor a few years ago? What value does it have aside pointing people to grammar guides and the like? The real value of the OP is the massive collection of manga and other resources, oh and as well as the grammar page with all the grammar dictionary stuff.

>>67949293
Yeah you're right, time to drop it and learn Portuguese so I can go live in a favela with you and the paisanos

>>67949425
>A redditor a few years ago?
Why are you asking me?

>>67949425
Or maybe different people find value in different parts of the thread

>>67949347
8ちゃん's board software is infinitely superior to 4chins in terms of capabilities, but I'm pretty sure this thread would be dead within a week

I no longer just want /djt/ back on our boards, but I am also taking up the cause of deleting this board.

>>67949347
>I wish it wasn't so dead
I wouldn't be dead if people here used it instead of complaining about being on /int/. I've got no problem with /int/ because it really only means another tab in the collection but for those who are so desperate to go back to /a/ I don't get why they don't go to one of the other /a/ boards on another imageboard. There are a fair few imageboards with their own /a/ which would be pretty much the same as it was a less than a week ago.

Is speed the main problem people have?

>>67949523
>find value in different parts of the thread
About the OP? Think I didn't understand you post.

>>67949589
>but I'm pretty sure this thread would be dead within a week
Why do you say that? They've been having Japanese threads for over a year. They've even been having Japanese threads on wizardchan for a long time. There are a whole bunch of different places that all link back to stuff in the OP, which is why I'm puzzled at why so many anons are desperate to go to boards that don't want this thread. You can browse with more than one active tab.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>67949706
Why would mods delete this thread?

>>67949750
>About the OP? Think I didn't understand you post.
About the OP too yes. I don't think you thought out your reply very well.

>>67945652
thanks for Pearl Harbor

>>67949750
It's like splitting up refugees into a bunch of different camps, there inevitably will be those who don't want to move so less to start with, and then that board in general will have less new people to populate it after oldfags leave etc.

Basically it comes down to a discussion thread with not much discussion leaves little reason to check it frequently, leading to stagnation. It might as well be a static website or message board or discord or irc or whatever other "slower" communication method of your choice, really.

>>67949589
Well the thread is already agonizing after like 4 days on /int/ so it couldn't possibly be much worse

>>67949880
Not enough meta for you?

>>67949750
I said this board though.
thread /THred/
board /bôrd/

>>67949864
>It's like splitting up refugees
How are you refugees?
>into a bunch of different camps
But the arugment is that on /a/ the thread was getting a lot of new people coming into the threads. Isn't the same applicable for different places?
>there inevitably will be those who don't want to move so less to start with, and then that board in general will have less new people to populate it after oldfags leave etc.
So? The thread is about learning Japanese, not having an ice cream social.
>Basically it comes down to a discussion thread with not much discussion leaves little reason to check it frequently, leading to stagnation
Or maybe you are too used to having hyper fast paced threads. The threads on /a/ were stupidly fast and it only encouraged shitposting because the shitposters knew they could spam a thread then come back the next day and do it all over.

>>67949935
Would you mind quoting exactly what you are responding to?

So quite fundamentally, a daily Japanese learning thread isn't anime, or manga. The DJT as it exists doesn't, strictly speaking, belong on a pure /a/.

The argument against this is a poor one based more in /a/ comprising the userbase, and being the better advertisement vehicle for the thread.

That said the djt can't stay on /a/ with the same name, or the same model. It could be something like a Daily Japanese Translating thread, or something else that levies Japanese learning with something that more belongs on /a/. That at least results in a more compelling argument for it's existence, and I remember we used to kick around the idea of translating a series after the original OP finished his Genki Kanji posts so it's not entirely beyond the pale of the thread.

>>67949797
what. it's my bad if my previous post looks sarcastic. there was no intention like such. as other posters said, she was sure bothered with involving in a mess among gaijins.

こうやってはじをさらしてるおにいちゃんより
いっしょうけんめいがんばってにほんごをべんきょうしてるおにいちゃんのほうが
わたしはすき

>成績は満作ほどではないが良くて、学年で三百人中五十番台をキープしている。何度か宿題を見せてもらった事もある
Her grades are not as good as Mansaku's, She's in the top 50 of 300? Several times she would let me copy her homework.

I need a second opinion on this one, especially the top 50 of 300 part. I don't quite get what 番台をキープしている means.

>>67950224
>台
Funny that I literally saw this the first time yesterday. It means "approximately"

Her grades are good (although not the level of Mansaku) and she maintains around the 50th position out of 300. She's let me look at her homework a few times

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>>67950062
We're not really refugees, but it's similar. Displaced from the original location we would meet up, not everyone will know where to go for the new discussions.

There problem with it being slower isn't that it's not "hyper fast paced", really. It could be moderately paced and still be okay. The fact is, the thread itself is named "quad-annual Japanese thread" to give you an idea of just how slow it is.

The current OP over there was made in July. There are usually only a couple of posts per day, sometimes it goes a few days without any posts. That is a glacial pace, hence the speed issue.

It's true it's not meant to be an "ice-cream social" but ACTIVE discussion requires a little more activity than that. Especially in the case of answering each other's questions.

As for shitposting, that is partially due to the overall lack of shits the moderation gave in regards to DJT.

>>67950224
Akira Isao is good but not that good, so she only watches over 50 out of the 300 people in school. As thanks they show her their homework so she can copy that.

>>67950169
Moderators don't want any recurring threads or generals

Being related to /a/ is not the issue, being a general is

>>67950224
>It means "approximately"
what?

>>67950581
Well, they are still letting Drawfag and Buyfag go on. Reporting does nothing.

It's truly a personal vendetta against DJT.

Code Geass OP, no one will notice!

>>>/a/150264088

>>67950606
to
>>67950304

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciUQc_7qR5o

>>67950581
It's not exactly fitting has always been the compelling argument against the threads continued existence going back to the founding when when we were getting accel-spammed. So it's at least a tad bit disingenuous to suggest that it doesn't play a part in our removal. That said I somehow doubt the mods will ban a thread that's doing something productive for the board, and chooses to follow up with a general that's more or less pointed to said original purpose(TLC, alternate TL, discussion therein).

Or that's what I'd liked to say, but then I remembered that they banned the /ak/ threads and they were actually getting shit done on a semiregular basis. However, it wasn't the stated purpose of the thread, the problem, I think, is more one of labeling, and stated purpose. If the DJT changes what it is to being more pointed I'd like to at least think that it'd be allowed.

>>67951044
Although I don't enjoy having the shill out to EOP to keep the thread going. It might just be better to settle for not being on /a/.

>>67951044
More commas. There is even a kanji for it: 、

>>67950995
yes
check a J-J dictionary

>>67951290
Yeah it's kind of shit, but at least EOP would have no idea if we're trolling or not? It would only be ourselves to call us out on it, really.

It really makes no sense to bite the hand that feeds you, should be the guiding thought. It applies to both sides.

>>67950606
>(6) (See 代・だい・2, 代・だい・6) level (e.g. price level); range (e.g. after physical units); period (of time, e.g. a decade of one's life)

>三百人中五十番台
In the 50's range out of 300 people.

>>67949425
Praise yourself some more you pathetic narcissist.

>>67951492
that's not 代 but 台 in the example though, and 代 doesn't mean "approximately" anyhow
>>67951380
you'll have to share that magical dictionary because it doesn't exist in normal ones

>>67951667
It's from the definition of 台.
I should have specified.

>>67951667
> 数量の大体の範囲を示す語。
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E5%8F%B0-90713

Alright, I will now start attempting to read おまもりのひみつ, my first reading experience after 12 months of ankidroning.
My expectations are falling into hiragana hell and not being able to follow things, but we'll see.
Also the index implies it's 250 pages long - divided up in 6 chapters - but this file I downloaded from DJT contains only the first chapter. Maybe this is a compilation of several stories and this chapter stands on its own, but I will only know when I get to the end!

I'll attempt 10 pages. Ikuzoi.

>>67951417
>but at least EOP would have no idea if we're trolling or not?
This is also not a question.

Why should I learn kanji when i just want to watch anime?

>>67952094
it's nearly impossible to learn japanese without kanji

>>67952094
Yeah, like if you're watching with subs then you won't even need to learn hiragana.

Best place to import books? amazon.co.jp had higher shipping costs than I expected.

>>67952028
Wow dude, that's a pretty good blog there. Have you ever thought of starting your own blogging site? I bet it would get famous really quickly, judging by your talent.

>>67952391
Talking about your progress and getting feedback is part of the learning/motivational process.

>>67952339
Check the buyfag thread guide, or ask them.

>>67952094
I'm going to respond seriously. No, you don't. Even if you were to watch subs, they would have furigana with them. If you just focus on vocabulary, you should be able to watch anime in no time. Actually, you don't need to learn hiragana or katakana either. They will just slow you down. If you just focus on listening, it won't be hard to easily grasp what the anime characters are saying, especially since they talk so clearly. Most content for learning japanese nowadays is romanized, so it should be easy to find a competent source. Good luck!

When you read stuff, do you just import all the unknown words into Anki and end up with 100+ new words every day? I'm gonna start reading soon and I'm not sure how to go about that exactly.

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>>67952391
Sorry, I didn't think this straight. I will refrain from talking about learning Japanese through Japanese media, as this is clearly off-topic and has led us to be kicked out of /a/.

>>67952612
You'll flood yourself in new words, and not all of the ones you're adding are equally useful. I recommend learning vocab by frequency until this is basically no longer the case for new words.

>>67952636
No, no, my bad. I don't think I phrased that clearly. I'm only stating that you have an exceptional talent for blogging. The structure of that post, the energy. I truly felt it. That is why I actually would like for you to inform us about your progress more in the future.

>>67952612
>100+ new words everyday
You can put a limit to it. The standard is 20 new cards per day.

>>67952028
>>but at least EOP would have no idea if we're trolling or not?
>This is also not a question.
He's questioning the premise of his statement. The question mark makes it an implicit question asking if this fact makes it acceptable.

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>>67952612
You sorta build up a backlog of new words to study, it's normal and fine. The beginning is a huge slog, so if you were to wait to study a reasonable amount a day, you would barely get any reading done.

>>67952094
It's not even worth learning the language just to watch anime desu it'll take fucking ages and kanji is awful.

>>67951044
>>67951417
The added caveat here is that we would become a thread about whatever it is that we are translating. In addition to this we would also be split on the selection of whatever is chosen.

>>67953699
Could it not just be a thread for multiple projects?

>>67953951
Sure, but that isn't the problem.

The problem becomes one of the thread being about the discussion of whatever it is we're translating by virtue of pulling in EOP's who want to see said thing translated.

So more than the content, we would need to deal with the fans, and that I could see easily inspiring the sort of offtopic shitposting over basically unliked insignificant things that I've come to expect from the djt.

>>67954467
Right, then how about we take on a chapter of a random untranslated manga (that's guaranteed to not have EOP fans) per thread. It would go

>untranslated crap - by relatively unknown author translation thread
>do you want to learn japanese?
>(djt resources)

1. We would produce board related content
2. We would encourage japanese learning

This new form of djt could work. What do you guys think?

/a/ here. Just want to let you folks know your circlejerk died while this remained >>150250276

>>>/a/67955252

>>/a/150267759

Support the thread before that overzealous mod gets to it again

>>67955499
>>>/a/150267759

I rarely crossboard

>ここまでは追ってはこられま

What's the deal with the ま? I'm not even sure I'm understanding the rest of the sentence properly either.

this isn't so bad, I thought it would be worse, I thought /int/ was a red board

>>67955673
You cut こられまい short that's what happened

>>67955123
It could work. But picking currently unknown things isn't a recipe to keep unwanted EOP away. There's also something of an argument for picking something with a existing userbase wants translated.
>>67955549
and it's dead.

Wow, so this is how /djt/ dies.

Who would have thunk? Well, it's been an honor to partake in these threads and has been really fun.
Maybe we'll shitpost together on some Japanese stream or something again.

Take care!

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>>67955932
What is that asshole's problem? And why now? I bet it's this cunt again.

fug
>arranged a date with a 30+ year old jp woman
>I'm 19 years old
>my japanese is garbage (been studying 6 months.)
>she's from osaka so she talks like a weirdo

>>67956147
>like a weirdo
Osaka-ben is best ben.

>>67956197

Any non standard dialect is saru-ben.

>>67956147
You're honestly lucky. Most jp girls looking for a language exchange partners in our age range are not that serious about it. Those in their late 20s to early 30s actually are. 6 months is more than enough. 3 months here and i've also had a few.

>>67956147
Funny all the people I meet from outside Kantou still speak to me in the standard dialect even though I'm fluent, and just speak their dialect with their friends.

It's kinda sad because I want more girls to talk to me in delicous kyoto-ben

>>67956147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIM4G-4kBA8

A decent excuse to grab a beer and watch this.

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>>67952028 here.
I managed! 10 pages done (pic related). I have no idea what is going on grammatically, but I'm able to piece together the meaning of the sentence after finishing it.

I am not using the dictionary unless a word is really essential, used it maybe thrice.

I will now take a victory bath and read another 10 pages while smelling really good!

>>67945840
no I wouldn't go that far, would just dissolve into general shit and get banned altogether

>>67946018
unless they're really old, I never remember reading one that didn't have it though

hey dude
why is djt here not on /b/?
what happened?

>>67948313
less people didn't become fluent moron they didn't unlearn Japanese after they left

>>67956197
Anyone wanna help me with this then?

I was arranging to meet her wednesday night and her message ended up being

大丈夫だよ!
水曜日の学校終わりにしよう!

Alright, so what I'm gathering is that's a good time. But wtf is that owarinishiyou mean? Did she just make a typo or is that implying we finish school together?

Fuck I'm in over my head.

>>67956864
It means, "to finish (something)"
Basically, she is challenging you to a fight to the death over long withstanding grudge.
"On Wednesday, at the school, lets finish this".

>>67952339
If you are buying books, try to buy them in sets. They only count as 1 item for shipping. So buying 1 book or a set of 30 costs the same to ship.

>>67956999
Shit I'm really over my head I haven't studied with my katana at all. I have the double bladed one like the guy from advent children, will that give me an upper hand?

>>67945505
Read the guide all of it. It's worth investing a day or 2 in figuring out how to study before you start studying inefficiently and waste weeks or months.

djtguide.neocities.org/

>>67956864
Let's make it Wednesday after school is done.

>>67952612
I recommend only mining words if you have seen them at least 2-3 times for two reasons. First, It eliminates the really rare words and let's you focus on the more common ones. Second, there are some words that you will learn after only seeing them a few times. So if you see it the 3rd time and you already know it, you don't have to mine it.

>>67949293
> Holy these idiots are trying to learn a language just for their hobby's
> They did not bother learning a language just to be cultured or to get a wage slave job
> wow they invested time into this instead of shitposting

>>67957609
I think it's best to mine everything that has new kanji (or even new kanji readings) even if it's the first time. That way if you come across the word in an image or something you can look it up without doing radical searches and such.

>>67957420
Thanks dude. I'll let you guys know how it goes she kinda has a slutty milfy look to her line photo.

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>it's the girl voicing the example sentence
SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT

Somewhere in the guide there was a post on how to make Anki look pretty with good fonts and nice CSS. Does anyone have a link? I can't find it right now

>not mining everything
Its like you don't even want to learn Japanese.

>>67958011
I just want to understand what I'm fapping to.

>>67958158
stop fapping to us

>>67958011
Tbh if you're coming across so many words that deciding what to mine is a problem you'd probably be better off just doing Core6k

>>67958625
There's value to be found in mining your own words if you have the time for it.

>>67956061
whose fucking rouge, this is the kills and of shit mods are supposed to be doing, every just fucking forgot, no surprise the site been a fucking shit show these last four years

>>67958713
Yeah it's just a trade off. If you're coming across 100 new words in an hour of reading, then that's enough that the words won't stick out as much, and reading is painful. It's when you have high comprehension that the words stick out more. So maybe the real suggestion is: If you are coming across that many new words, just read something easier. NHK news easy or something. Aim to come across less than 50 new words a day in reading, and if you don't mine enough words for the day then fill in the rest with Core vocab.

>>67956147
ask her to do classic Osaka improv tsukomi every chance you get I hear they love that

>>67957896
Wait until you reach 生理.

>>67957037
Thanks, that makes a big difference in shipping costs.

>>67956763
>>67956848
>>67958970
>>67959185
What country are you from?

>>67931175
>I didn't make the decision I swear

Bullshit. I hope you're reading this mod, because you're an autistic piece of shit. Generals are usually cancer because they devolve into memes and shitposts when there's nothing to discuss. DJT isn't a general because it constantly has an ongoing topic to discuss(learning japanese). The fact that you moved it to fucking int of all places shows you don't give a fuck and you just wanted a conversation you didn't take part in off of /a/,

Move this back to /a/. the only person who doesn't want this there is you you asspie piece of shit.

Oh, and good going being too much of a mouth breather to admit to the guy asking about it that you were the one to move it.

>>67959380
>DJT isn't a general because it constantly has an ongoing topic to discuss(learning japanese).

How does this differ from other Generals? They have some basic topic to discuss, but it's too broad, and well, general, and as a consequence of being too frequent, is being a barely on topic circlejerking memefest.

>>67959597
None of what you said is true. Its a general in the sense that it happens frequently. But what makes a general harmful is the circlejerk. Which isn't present in DJT.

And the process of learning Japanese isn't a basic broad topic. Its specific.

>Discuss naruto or whatever nevermind that this is the fourth thread in an hour
>Help each other learn japanese. This is the only thread for this today.

>>67959597
Also, if you think the latter half of your post is the case. Then mods should ask the people in the threads to clean it up, rather than shoving it onto some other board.

DJT are a staple of /a/. Taking that away because some people aren't behaving is bad moderation.

>>67959684
But those threads last for a much shorter duration and fall off. Saying it's the only thread for this today is misleading because it's practically always there, and even when the discussion is dead someone will intentionally bump it with usually a bad post.

>>67957956
you mean this from the anki start-up guide?
http://pastebin.com/HWk3Nnm6

>>67959684
>>67959769
It's a general in the sense that it's a general discussion. Unpointed, and unspecific, and while we do a decent job of mitigating our circlejerk it still exists within the DJT. Albeit to lesser extent than some generals that are being allowed on /a/.

This leads me to the next point, the problem with the DJT isn't that it's a general, or that it's offtopic too often as evidenced by the generals are still allowed on the board when we get deleted inside 10 minutes.

It's that when the DJT is on topic, it's topic is considered offtopic for the purpose of the board in the eyes of the mods/admins deleting it, and regarding what to do about this see my thoughts
>>67950169

Anki is a lie.

Is there a J > J dictonary app for android or should i just keep googling when i encounter a new word?

>>67959597
>How does this differ from other Generals?
Generals with a specific series in mind (e.g. JoJo) go on even when there is NO new content to talk about.
It's a vigil, where everyone keeps chatting whatever while they wait for a hearbeat from the creators - be it a new episode, a new manga chapter, a new movie.

On the other hand, threads like DJT, Buyfag and Drawthread are infinitely ongoing in a non-artifficial way - there is always someone buying, drawing or learning. There is always more to talk about, with no need for shady excuses to bump a thread and keep it alive.

If mods would notice this simple thing, they could have written proper rules, instead of that shitty list that they aren't even following, taking a piss on DJT and letting Tumblrinas post their shit away on Drawthreads and the Buythread to have a guide, while merely pasting the DJT guide UPON REQUEST has led to ban/deletion on translation threads.

So much butthurt and partiality, and they have gone entirely silent, since they KNOW they would end up contradicting themselves if they made any declarations..

>>67956864
>>67956999
It is just my opinion, that is a sentence as follows, isn't it?

水曜日の"学校終わり"にしよう!

In conversation language, '~終わり' can mean 'after ~ is over'.

>>67960580
anki is god

>>67960858
こっちだよ >>67957420

>>67960760
It's not too terribly different. It's not like we are exactly fonts of original Japanese language learning discussion, and if your view is that that sort of discussion is off topic, then we are never on topic in the way that the JoJo general(or whatever) is occasionally on topic(when there's something new to discuss).

I think they've declared, maybe not from hiro's mouth, but from that admin post, that the permission that allowed the djt to exist on /a/ has been rescinded, on the grounds of removing these recurring, off topic threads. More than the particularly circlejerky generals that are still allowed, what bothers me is the buyfag general getting the pass. In this new vision for the site shouldn't that go to /jp/ too?

>>67960963
そうですね。
Excuse me.
And it is the same way as the word of "学校帰り" or "仕事終わり".

>>67961876
放課後とはどのように違いますか

>>67956864
if we have space, what that should be separated like in this case is just as an example in the following.

水曜日 の 学校終わり/学校 終わり に しよう

学校終わり means after school, afterschool time or such.

>>67959837
YES, that's it anon! Thanks!

>>67961980
放課後 学校が終わってからの時間
学校終わり 学校が終わってすぐ

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NO NEED, THEN
TO LAMENT FOR LONG OR LAY OUT MY BODY
IF THE BATTLE TAKES ME, SEND BACK
THIS FREE HEART THAT KRASHEN FASHIONED
AND DEKIRU GAVE ME, TO LORD KINOMOD
FATE GOES AS FATE MUST

>>67960760
>while merely pasting the DJT guide UPON REQUEST has led to ban/deletion on translation threads.
That's why you give them a guide on raw manga instead of the DJT guide.
http://compellingcontent.neocities.org/

>>67961980
In the case of '放課後', I think they are still in the school but every classes are finished.

これも私の主観。。
だいたい同じだと思う。

Lets say you're taking a Japanese course and need to memorize 40 simple kanji in the next 3 days, assuming you've never studied kanji before, How would you lads go about it?

>>67963305
I would boku no read the guide

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>>67963305
>taking a Japanese course

>>67963305
Flashcards

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イースター?

>>67941546
Maybe this thread is as bad as they say it is if you people approve of other chans. I'm just here to learn Japanese I actually agree with the mods if you people aren't /a/nons. That being said I find it bullshit that this can't be on /a/ but since there is no rule against it that means the posts within /djt/ were cancer and not /a/-related. I personally think this thread should be seated nowhere but /a/ and if content is an issue they should just ban you faggots individually.

>>67963429
grats, you're smarter than a majority of 4chan posters
actually no scratch out that pretentious tone please stay here and help purge the infidels

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>>67963305
in this way

>>67963305
I would learn them. 40 isn't a big enough number that you need any special technique. You just need to not be a worthless lazy piece of shit.

>>67963305
I should have installed English words in myself constantly since I was a kid.

Oh damn, this happened while I was away? Everything really returns to nothing, doesn't it?
I really hope this migration doesn't stick. I don't come to DJT nowadays, but it was pretty much my first thread on /a/ and 4chan in general. It sold me on this place not just being a complete shithole. I feel indebted to this thread in a way.
Then again, I didn't learn Japanese, and I slowly stopped coming here, so maybe it wasn't as good for me as I thought it was. But it was probably my own laziness and stupid practices at fault.
In any case, while I can't call myself a part of you anymore, I hope you guys either return home to /a/, or find a place, however unlikely it is, that will be better for you than /a/ (better objectively, not based on some dumb "my dictionary says this doesn't belong here" thing).
Good luck, DJT.
Just wanted to say this, even if it's completely off-topic.
/blog

why cant we just get a /djt/ board, i'm sure it would be more popular than the origami one.

バンプ

>>67965199
バンプめっちゃいいよね。

>>67965430
そうよ。

じしんがこわい
たすけて、おにいちゃん

>>67939909
>>67940215
>>67940312
this whole time I thought の meant possession...

>>67965941
It does a lot of things, 相棒

how does it feel to finish or be close to finishing core6k?

お前ら一体何のつもりだよ?
/a/へ出て行け

>>67966312
簡単に戻れば

>>67966406
この掲示板には日本語スレがある
これがいらん

>>67966406
i'm curious where 簡単に was from? that sentence also sounds like only if we can go back as soon as we want / I wish that too / like we can go back. giving that, 戻れれば didn't make me confused.

>>67966443
to be honest the general sucks

>>67967039
>that sentence also sounds like only if we can go back as soon as we want
Exactly what I was going for.

>>67967039
Yeah but this is way worse. It looks like a huge asspatting circle of desperate fucks

So, is there anything positive about the DJT being evicted to /int/?

>>67967151
No. Literally nothing. Literally worse than banning the thread outright without moving it.

>>67967151
A couple natives pop in every now and then. Its good to know what is natural and commonly used and what sounds weird

>>67963305
write each one a hundred times

>>67967224
/int/ literally already had a japanese thread for that.

The /jp/ mod deletes DJT, which contains comprehensive info on learning Japanese and a vast collection of resources, but leaves this up: >>>/jp/16167680
Amazing.

- Thread is full of flagposting
- /int/ doesn't like us and /int/ denizens that end up in here just shitpost even more
- Shitposters shit up any remotely japanese related thread on /a/ including raw manga threads, just because DJT got moved
- False flaggers got to damage DJT's reputation even more by spamming new threads over and over
- Now people that pretend that /int/ is a board for language learning (it's not) instead of a culture blogging board are validated
- /a/'s quality did not improve at all
- /jp/ did the opposite of letting actual otaku culture threads in and continues to be a moderator-enforced cesspit of incompetence and exoticism

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>one language general ruined /a/
>10 pages of geass spam yesterday did not
I don't get it.

>>67967354
>culture blogging board
Wat? This board is literary:
>xxxx
>white

>looking up れれば
>hit 来れれば
>ラ行下一段活用の動詞「来れる」の仮定形である「来れれ」に、接続助詞「ば」が付いた形。
>「来れれ」
how weird it sounds even for me.

>>67967425
Geass IS /a/

>>67967289
>>67967354
>>67967425
www.4chan.org/feedback
Send constructive well-reasoned arguments and maybe the mods will listen

>>67967510
「これれば」って言わない?方言なんかな?

>>67967425
Nostalgia, and people wanting to take part in something they both missed, and regard as /a/'s high water mark(deservedly or not).

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>>67967425
I had my filter off for the longest time but I filtered CG and I've never filtered so many threads at once in my life. Even when EVA got that blu-ray and threads for it sprout up everywhere it never reached more than 7. I was at 30 threads filtered yesterday and 20 threads right now.
If it actually was discussion I woudn't mind, but its a few faggots making threads for the sake of making threads.

But hey, at least djt is gone and JoJo isn't allowed to have a pastebin.

>>67967510
>来れれ
来れれさせられる

>>67967540
Feedback hasn't been publicly updated in forever but fine I wrote a constructed argument in favor of banning DJT entirely so that new recurring threads can take advantage of its userbase.

>>67967253
Yeah but it's full of literal weebs who learn through classes

>>67967808
Did you mean: "japanophiles"

>>67967696
>来れれさせられる
「こさせられる」でしょ?

>>67967888
本当に「来れれさせられる」より優雅に思えるw
さすが日本旗君

>>67967646
nah I was just afraid to say [来れれ] as is. we never use it without connecting it with something at least today.

>>67968029
(´・ω・｀)じゃ、お返しとして、ドイツ語教えてもらおうか
フォイヤー、バームクーヘン、グーテンモルゲン、カルテぐらいしか知らない俺に
君の力で三日でドイツ語マスターさせて

>>67967848
Yes, actual weebs, as opposed to the "likes anime" definition

>>67968171
もちろんアナタに教えたいよ
一生に頑張ろう

でも今はちょっと遅くてごめんなさい
それでは教えてくれてありがとう、優しい日本旗君
また明日
お休みなさい

>>67968332
ok cool

>>67968371
おやすみ

>>67956666
>I am not using the dictionary unless a word is really essential

enjoy mastering the Japanese language around 2050 with that mindset

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Why are Americans always so rude?

>>67968811
Go ask a mirror

>>>/qa/858354

>>67969062
Let's give them what they want and see how they like it.
>If you want help with learning to read Japanese or if you want to practice writing/conversing in Japanese then you should post on /int/. Threads about translating raw anime & manga should be made on a per episode/chapter basis. Threads asking questions regarding the nuances of a translation should be made about a specific scene or piece of dialog. Please be specific, not general.

If you can't tell, I'm joking. Please be respectful.

>>67969145
>>67969062
What's stopping people from just making a "hey lets translate this episode" thread and just treating it like DJT

>>67969208
The mods will see that and then delete the thread. What I was implying is that a bunch of people made a number of different threads at once all asking different specific questions.
It seems like it would be more efficient to contain it all in a single thread but the mods are too focused on keeping things pure anime & manga.

>>67969145
>Threads asking questions regarding the nuances of a translation should be made about a specific scene or piece of dialog.

I hope everyone on >>>/a/ starts doing exactly that.
Do it faggots.

>>67969208
Hey, that's actually a considerably good idea. It's worth a shot.

>>67969208
Inb4 someone starts copy pasting Japanese questions from old djt threads all over /a/

>>67969277
Could you please make one including the Mod's post in that as well? I'm too lazy.

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>>67969274
>literally encouraging "what did he mean by this?"

>>67969270
then just make a new one until it sticks

>>67969300
can't mods just ban shitposters instead of the whole thread for fucks sake

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>>67969311
No, I'm too lazy too. Have this instead.

>>67969373
>then just make a new one until it sticks
I'm pretty sure you'll just end up getting banned, unfortunately.

I really want to go back to /a/ too, but it looks like that won't be possible.

So do we run two different DJT's now? One project specific on /a/, and a general question one on /int/? Is that actually the preferred arrangement going forward?

Let's just advocate moving over to /jp/

>>67969502
I advocate deleting the thread so that DJT posters could even possibly be willing to move to /jp/.

>>67969466
banned for making a thread about reading manga?

>>67969507
I advocate changing moderators to people who don't have their heads up their asses and can't see anything

>>67969062
>final nail in the coffin
welp, im out
they have exchanged a few blogposters for flags on every post and effectively killed DJT as a learning environment.

できないちゃん has won, im not going to re-create this thread on here, nor cut any more webms. 今までありがとうございます
さよなら

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>>67969534
Stupid, isn't it? I agree... but have you been around the past couple of days?
You might want to take this image with you.
Good luck.

>>67969557
make a raw manga thread on /a/

Can't merge with >>67948192 ?

>>67969562
>threads should be o a per episode basis
there we go, problem solved.

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別にいいんじゃないですか
ここで

>>>/a/150280898
Don't use the DJT image. Makes it too obvious.

>>67969643
But we would be locked into talking about that single episode. Problem not solved.

>>67969562
So, if I understand this right, in the future if I have trouble reading something and need to ask for help I'm supposed to create a thread and ask in whichever board that content would be appropriate?

>>67969726
Yes.

>>67969726
>translation
He's talking about subtitle autism.

I'll probably stick around for a couple more days in case the mods stop being faggots, but not going to stick around if we are permanently stuck on /int/

>>67969726
That's how I interpret what the Mod is saying and I absolutely disagree with it.
The Mod would rather have multiple threads with specific questions take up space than have a single thread which would promote "chat-room" behavior.

>>67969712
you really need to learn how to bend the rules anon

>>67969820
With these narrow minded mods?
I am only aware of two legit threads that slipped through the cracks on /a/ in the last couple days: the raw manga thread and another about learning japanese for anime and manga.

I don't understand your negativity, DJT has never been more free. Before we were restricted to a single thread, but all of /a/ is our DJT now.
If you have a question just make a new thread on /a/, no need to come to /int/ anymore
Bye, our home for a week.

>>67969950
It does need to specific to understanding the work in question, and that work being anime, or manga, however. Now i wonder if those sorts of questions no longer belong on /int/ with the DJT language discussion thread.

So we post Japanese anime or manga related questions on /a/ and then link them here?
Same for VN and LN related in /jp/?

>>67970024
Why don't we roll with the raw manga? As long as we post random strings of japanese text when asking questions, nobody will know if its from a manga, LN, VN, or game.
Link to the guide focused on reading manga or some shit.
Other than that its pretty much business as usual, hopefully with stricter moderation.

>>67970024
Yes, but we're only supposed to discuss the learning and practicing of the Japanese language here. So if your question is specifically about some detail or nuance you need clarification on you need to create a thread wherever that content is appropriate, and hope one of happens to see it.

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I guess this is goodbye.
My sincerest thanks for everything. I started learning Japanese after noticing DJT in the /a/ catalog, and, although I still have a long way to go, I owe everything I've learned up until now to DJT. Best of luck to everyone in your studies, and please don't any of this discourage you.
Since this thread has already hit bump limit, I'll dump my favorite OP pictures. Seems that I no longer have a use for this folder.

>>67970024
I'll post in it