Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1756

どうなるかな

>2 (two) jap threads
fugg off

weeb da, korose!

>>67914094
わたしわにほんからきました
よろしくおねがいします

>>>/qst/870642
IDs are better than flags, in all honesty.

>>67914335
good fuck off

ずっと思ってたんだけどこのスレって何なの?
もうすでに日本語専用スレがあるから必要ないような気もするんだけど

>>67914381
いいえ

>>67914420
日本語専用スレと日本語学者スレは別

>>67914420
これはアニメや漫画などによって日本語を勉強してる外人のスレだ
ここでまともな日本語会話ができないと思う
好きでこっち来たわけでもないし

箱入り娘をほしい

>>67914520
へえ つまりここは日本語を学んだり日本語について質問をしたりするスレっていうこと?

>>67914420
/a/の新任modに追い出され、/jp/のmodからは拒絶され、/int/で難民キャンプ状態だそうな

>>67914594
うん

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You seem to come to stay here /int/ after the short period of the refugee life as I thought, don't you?
Good luck anyway.

>>67914567
なるほど あっちのスレは日本語というか日本に関係すること全体とかについて話し合うスレでこっちはアニメ漫画に特化した日本語を勉強するスレってことか
つまり日本のアニメや漫画を吹き替えナシや原文で理解したい人つまりweeabが集まるスレってことかな

>>67914631
何か色々あるんだな よくわからんけど

>>67914742
その通り
素人翻訳者とかも結構いる

moshi moshi

nandaaa? ruffy desu ka??? ooooooooo gomenasai ruffy senpai, hai hai >_< !!!!!!!

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How would I express that I'm feeling overwhelmed by something? For example, "I'm overwhelmed by work."

>>67915188
wakarimasen deshita

>>67915306
DARE DA

>>67915272
「私は中出し大好きだよ」

>>67915272
When you express "I'm overwhelmed by work.'' in Japan,''sigoto no kotode atama ga ippai ippai (mou gennkaida),''仕事のことで頭がいっぱいいっぱい(もう限界だ).

>>67915272
仕事で疲れてたまらない

>>67915567
I only know this is wrong because I know hentai tags.

>>67913851
What happened to #1755?

>>67915616
lol I like hentai Japanese words,too.
I talk to myself about that's words and insult worlds when I am home alone.

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>>67915581
>sigoto
Why is this allowed?

>>67915894
No glyph for si.

>>67915581
Does anyone other than a ditsy woman actually repeat 'ippai' twice ?

>>67915894
Hepburn isn't the only ローマ字 system.

>>67915986
Yeah when I experience 中出しの喜び

>>67915986
*Ditzy

>破壊されちゃたまらんからな
>まらん

???

>>67917025
たまらん?
破壊されてはたまらない

>>67917152

そうか

>>67915986
It is a common expression in a casual conversation as well as Dokkoi Dokkoi, which means fifty-fifty.

Ippai Ippai can be different from Ippai in its usage. The typical difference is as follows.
Ippai: to be full
Ippai Ippai: to express that you feel you can't afford to do something because you are busy etc.

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>さあ、どうぞ。我々は、任務規定で門の外にいなくてはなりません。
How is 規定 exactly used? I didn't understand its meaning with core even with the example sentence. And now I finally encountered it on the wild.

>DJT on /int/
It's still so bizarre to have you guys here, I see the thread in the catalog and wonder for a split second what board I'm browsing.

>>67917454
Come over to /qst/ instead.
Fuck /int/.
>>>/qst/870642

>>67917445
>我々は、任務規定で門の外にいなくてはなりません。
As a stipulation of our duties, we are not allowed to be outside the gate.

任務規定 is like "rules we were given as part of our duties."

>>67917809
I mean "not allowed to not be outside the gate."
"Required to be outside the gate."

>>67917646
いってらー

マペット

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>>67917809
ah, I see, thanks

>>67913851
/a/に戻りたいです。
どうしてまだここにいますか。

Is 10 cards + kim's guide a decent amount if I'm also trying to balance learning Japanese with Uni?

>>67918805
ここしか居場所がない

ゴミ箱?

>>67918951
Do as much as you want. I do 20 new cards + reading practice and still do pretty good at Uni. Just don't burn yourself out.

>>67918951
Try at least 20 cards, if after 2 weeks or so you think it's too much lower it. I find it hard to believe 20 cards is too much for anyone though.

I speak TK, PT, DE, עב, FR and EN. I've heard that JP is really similar to TK: can anyone testify?

>>67919903
>TK
Tokelau?

>>67919903

tae kim???

>>67920324
>>67920429
Turkish

>>67920689

How many kanji do they speak in Turkey?

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Is this /a/ yet?

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>>67920818

の

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>>67920818
まだこの..見知らぬ天井

>>67920956
>Cord doesn't follow the ceiling tile lines all the way back to the wall
That's just cruel for the patients that get stuck in the bed for days.

>>67920930
but wheres the subject and object?

lol this thread is still here.
sure the /a/ mods hate weeb/japanese cultural stuff that much while taking anime out of context.
i know /v/ mods constantly delete a thread like this, but this treatment isnt like that.

>>67914594
>>67914742
go fuck yourself you illiterate netouyo fatfuck.

>>67918951
I can spare only 1 hour to Japanese every day and I do 20 cards. Tae Kim only when I have extra time to spare.

I fin 10 per day would still be acceptable if you're not in a rush. But bear in mind the perspective starts to get really stretched - you go from 1,5 years to 3 years to finish Core 10k, which covers approximately all Joyo kanji.

I for one would rather have all Core done in 1,5 years and focus the next 1,5 years in grammar/utilizing those words. And mining/adding a few words here and there just to keep things going.

>>67921315
>subject
me
>object
you

ねとうよってなあに

>>67921632
中出しの喜びを味わっているときの君のお母さんのことを「ねとうよ」と言う

repeat after me
ちょおま

>>67921632
ネット右翼
right wing internet samurai warriors
>>67921868
ちょんまげ

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>>67921868
超美味っ

>>67921632
online right-wings who are like chicken hawks.

>>67921894
>>67921925
ちょおまw

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御前賀夕菜

>>67922024

もうちょっと上げて

>>67921980
So basically the alt-right of Japan? top kek

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>>67922326
There was a thread a while back with images kind of like this, except with the Japanese alt-right instead.

>>67921632
they are the japanese version of /pol/ack keyboard warriors who are obsessed with sk and such ideological themes, mostly anti-japan sentiments all over the world, and only accept acclaims for japan which are like braindead weebs reactions to japan such as how great japan is

over 95% of /int/ japanese are them. they delusionally believe all the rest 5% of japanese posters who make fun of their idiocy and bigotry are japanese korean so called zainich.

>>67922591
Sort of like how /pol/ thinks anyone who disagrees with them is being paid by the Liberal Media.

God damn, is there really no difference between the East and West...

>>67922326
yes

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>>67922222

Is there a site you can look up on how the words are pronounced?

>>67923800
Most common words have audio files on wwwjdic.

>>67923863
Don't be rude. I wanted to know how a specific word was pronounced.

>>67923921
The word that I wanted is on there. Thanks.

>>67922591
HAHA quite interesting. I roughly agree with your explanation, but the proportion of 95% to 5% sounds a bit exaggerating. Besides, you wouldn't deny the fact that there are seemingly some Korean descents with Japan's flag ranting against those delusional faggots and saying nasty words out of the newfag's nest "Japanese thread".

I don't care about who is Netouyo, Netosayo(?), or Zainichi at all actually, as long as they all make their political squabbles in /pol/. they don't though.
,

>>67924285
At times, it's hilarious to see japs fighting themselves and koreans in broken english though

americanized japanese brasileiro here. don't speak a word of it but would like to start :^). do archipelago japanese really hate brazilians?

>>67924879
wwwwwwwwwww

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So when a reading is displayed as x.y it means that the kanji is read as "x" only in the word(s) xy? Is there a name for this type of exception?

>>67924924
sorry, I don't understand... is this a meme?

>>67925130
y = 送り仮名

なのであるのだ

>>67925175
Thank you

>>67925210

おまえこそきっとなのであるのだ

>>67925282
私はなのであるのではない

>13 episodes of めぞん一刻 left
>nothing else left to watch for listening practice
What are you guys watching?

I'm glad you guys were banned from /a/, these threads have been going much better without being on the most active board. Stay cool

>>67925560
Anime

What are you guys reading today?

>>67925607
>much better
>rampant flagposting
>minimal discussion of learning japanese
well its still early i guess

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やるんだ
やるだけなんだ

お前の夢が夢であると認めるな
昨日にお前は明日と言った
だから、やるだけ
お前の夢を叶えようとしなさい
をするだけ

成功を志望する人もいる
でも今に、オマエが起きて頑張る
何も無理じゃないよ

毎人が諦める所には
お前が着いて
続けろ
ダメ!待ってのはなぜ?

をしろ
をするだけ
うそ!無理じゃない!
をするだけ
すべてを白紙に返すことは疲れったなら
諦めるな

>>67926100
意味わからん

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https://youtu.be/8hCAm3xikJA
ローマ艦隊ベスト艦隊

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>>67925768

>>67926100
vocarooでお願いします

>>67913851
>>>/a/

Will I learn japanese if I watch anime while I sleep?

>>67926966
Only if you sleep with your eyes open

>>67925560
i just finished watching imocho and now its down to either killing myself or finding another japanese cartoon to kill my time with so i guess ill free up some hard drive space and download maison ikkoku too
looks like theres one up with only 700mb an episode thankfully大慶至極欣喜雀躍有頂天外幸福航空

Anyone knows any Japan TV live stream? All the ones that I know are now dead.

>>67927013
>>67926966
some studies showed that hearing things in sleep works.

>>67926966
no problem.
Sleep brings up a child well.

Can any of you understand spoken Japanese? I have trouble understanding what native English speakers say and am wondering if the same can be said for you guys too.

>>67928223
a little. But that is normal since spoken conversation is different than reading. It takes a while for your ears to get accustomed to it.

>>67928223
english pronunciation is fucked up anyway

>>67928223
Yeah but I miss a lot of words that I haven't heard often enough. I also get confused if they do multiple conjugations for one word like 食べたかった

>>67928223
一応

>>67928223
You can't just say that you don't understand spoken English.

Lots of Americans would have a hard time talking to a Liverpool Brit and lots of North Americans have a hard time understanding Indian-English.

I'm about to have a mental breakdown. Why must I have been born in the worst part of America for this shit.

There is already a japanese thread

>>67928775
If you have an internet connection, you have no excuse to not wake up early and get on skype with someone everyday.

>>67928786
This is the Japanese language learning thread.
It's distinct from the Japanese culture thread.

>>67928277
I've been doing this for quite a while though. Like two years or something and still can I barely understand Grumpy Jiisan. Maybe I'm too old for this.

>>67928390
Japanese isn't much better in that regard I think. Some of Hiragana sound really similar and it can be pretty confusing.

>>67928476
That sounds like me. Hopefully it's just that I'm not used to those words and I'll be able to understand spoken English someday.

>>67928490
僕も一応

>>67928497
That makes sense. I don't have much trouble understanding Asian English.

>>67928786
We know, but this is /a/'s thread. Tell the mods to put it where it belongs.

>>67928871
i have two jobs

For a NEET it's different. I know. I was a NEET once. Now things are different..

>>67928901
No, I don't believe that is the case because since you are around mostly Japanese people and speakers, your brain is used to Japanese phonetic sounds. The only way you can fix it is by forcing yourself to speak in english to people and listen to english programs for a few long hours of the day. I recommend you to go to italki.com and get an english tutor to speak with or find a meetup group online of english speaker. If you don't listen and speak in the language to other constantly, your brain will never get used to it. I believe you can do it.

俺はアウトロースター。今日から、日本はこの俺様の国だ!さ、早くどっかに出て行けッ!

does anyone know that Japanese song that goes like papippipipipipi pow pow

it was popular on /f/ last time checked

俺は明日、背の手術をされる
死んじゃえばいい

>>67928223
Spoken Japanese is easier than trying to decipher moonrunes

>>67928958
eggman?

>>67929306
More appropriate for the 日本語スレッド
>>67929336

>>67929136
I'm too asocial to actually talk to people though, especially when I speak in my non native language. Hopefully just listening to stuff in English is good enough for my brain to eventually get used to it.

>>67929448
Your written English is good enough that it makes me think you are lying about being Japanese so なんくるないさ

>>67929448
Watch / pirate lots of US TV then.
I can pick up on Japanese phonetics only because I've watched so much anime.
I'm not even able to fully understand it, but I know what sounds they're making because I've watched ~2169 hours(90 days) worth of anime in Japanese dub.

So this finally got kicked off /a/?
ぶっちゃけこの方がいいと俺は思うんだけどな

>>67929608
yep.

>>67929608
It's probably okay for you Americans considering your flags are everywhere.
It's as if some people have been given a forced trip.

>>67929621
なにかきかっけあったの?
ひどく荒らされてたとか

それともただ管理人の気が変わっただけなの?

>>67929665
Yeah but unless you're an asshole it shouldn't matter

If you ask something stupid people will make fun of you but if they remember it across threads they will be the one remembered as an autist.

Plus it means Japanese people might filter in without the drawback of roleplaying as a 5 year old

日本語能力試験を受け取るの?

>>67929674
I am just a lurker and a beginner level A1. I have no clue what you asked sorry.
new janny got made because of spam and adios to it all.

>>67929763
That basically answers my question thanks.

>>67929744
Time to go through another 20 pages of my prep book I guess since I left it until a week before

>>67929665
A forced trip that isn't actually yours and anyone can use. What did you plan to do, troll? Pretend you're 10 people to win some argument? Nobody cares if the same person is replying a lot in a thread unless they're stirring shit.

頼みください

So いもうと never came back from that ban, huh? 本当に残念ですよね

>>67929744
いいえ、まだ出来ないから

>>67929785
>頼みください

that's embarrassing

楽しみください

>>67929744
I missed the deadline for N3, but I'm not too bothered since it's only N3. Maybe I'll take the N2 next December.

>>67929785
Obviously it's not the same as a trip, but it still sucks.
I'm literally the only British poster in this thread for example.

>>67929560
Shitposters on 4chan helped me a lot. Trying to not sounds so retarded to banter them was such a good way to improve my written English. 英語の聞き取りもなんくるないさだと良いと思う

>>67929577
Maybe I should watch LOST all over again. Or I guess I could watch anime in English dub.

絶対者 means the absolute, does it mean it is one and everything, something similar to God?

>>67929744
受け取るよ
けどさ、最近漫画ばかり読んでる。何も勉強してない

>>67929785
A lot of people use this site because they can be completely anonymous. Having a rare flag makes you have an identity inside the threads and will affect how your posts are received in the long run

>>67929887
I would recommend trying to get subs2srs to work. I think intensive listening for phrases of medium length (sentences, rather than paragraphs or words) is incredibly helpful for getting good at listening comprehension.

Most dubbed anime sounds even more awkward, by far, than Anime in Japanese sounds compared to normal Japanese, so I wouldn't really recommend it unless it's the only thing that holds your interest.

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明日は本の1章を読み試しての事が始めてです。12ヶ月から暗記で語彙を学びます、Tae Kimのガイドにもせいぜい半数を読んだ。きっと楽しくて難しくて可笑しい経験が起きます。

お休みなさい、DJT達.

>>67929887
>anime in English dub
Don't do it

I'm going to ask a couple beginner questions that I didn't see on the guide.
Is it cool to just use note paper or is it of great benefit to print out the weird looking graph paper they practice stroke order on?
RTK says to learn the kanji before doing vocab so I guess I jumped the gun starting core 2k/6k but can I read Tae Kim in tandem with RTK volume 1?

Thanks for this resource guys, it's really helpful. I'm stoked about nihongoshark's supplementary guide to RTK, I find his shit fun.

I hid every /int/ thread except for this one by the way because what the fuck is this flag worship fetishist board? Is this sfw /pol/? Holy fuck, what did you do to the mods to deserve this shit?

>>67930103
おやすみ

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>>67929887
>watch anime in English dub
Commit sudoku

It's hard to find US movies/TV for free if you search in English since they're very protective of their content.
You might be able to find some Japanese sites that stream US content. This is a pretty good show and the downloads work.
http://hdmoviespoint.biz/breaking-bad-season-1-2008-720p-hd-free-download-1/

>>67930150
>Is it cool to just use note paper or is it of great benefit to print out the weird looking graph paper they practice stroke order on?
It's fine to just use note paper, just keep in mind that your aim is to get every kanji to be roughly the same size no matter how many radicals they have.

>RTK says to learn the kanji before doing vocab so I guess I jumped the gun starting core 2k/6k but can I read Tae Kim in tandem with RTK volume 1?
All roads lead to the same place, some faster than others. If that's what you want to do, do it.

>>67930150
>RTK says to learn the kanji before doing vocab so I guess I jumped the gun starting core 2k/6k but can I read Tae Kim in tandem with RTK volume 1?
You can and (if you've already started RTK) should do all 3 in tandem, in fact the Core2k6k deck was "optimized" for RTK readers.

>>67930205
>It's hard to find US movies/TV for free if you search in English since they're very protective of their content.
Just pirate that shit. I'm downloading the first season of Batman 1966 right now.

>>67930150
>RTK says to read itself
Yeah of course it does.

Do not delay Core. Do at least 20 words a day. If you have extra time you are free to spend it on RTK or whatever silly shit you want but DO NOT delay Core.

The first 1k words will be used all the time in grammar guides and such, so knowing them will be a huge benefit even if you don't touch native material for a while, because it will make reading tae kim and such that much easier.

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書道 is harder than I though

>>67930275
>Core
JLPT decks are also fine

>20 words a day
Not necessary and if he's not able to do it but forces himself to, he's going to become buried in cards he forgot and make no progress. 20 cards is average for someone with no other obligations, that's all.

>>67930078
>subs2srs
Wow, that looks like a really cool program. Thanks bruv. I'm gonna look into it.

>>67930147
O-okay. I was just half joking anyways since I knew /a/ doesn't like English dubs much.

>>67930205
Thanks anon. I remember I liked Breaking Bad. That chicken antagonist guy was pretty cool.

desu I fucking hate my flag. I'd rather die than to let everybody see that I live in a shitty hellhole. I want to be /djt/ to be /a/nonymous again.

>>67930378
>mfw a girl try to get me to move the phillippines once
>good thing i didn't

Someday you can get a japanese flag anon
Someday

>>67930378
>I'd rather die than to let everybody see that I live in a shitty hellhole.
Then don't draw attention to it by flagposting.

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>>67930150
>RTK
See pic

>Holy fuck, what did you do to the mods to deserve this shit?
Told the mod his Japanese was shit and he got mad

Or at least that's my headcanon

>>67930337
>JLPT decks are also fine
Maybe but there's absolutely no reason to use low quality decks when high quality decks exist, and there's no particular reason to base your study around the JLPT until maybe if you are going for N2/N1. If there are JLPT decks with sentences with full native audio that's fine too I guess, but it's easier just to say Core.

>Not necessary and if he's not able to do it but forces himself to, he's going to become buried in cards he forgot and make no progress. 20 cards is average for someone with no other obligations, that's all.
Maybe but if he can't do 20 cards a day it just means if he does only RTK he'll take even longer to get to real Japanese.

>>67930378
At least you can get cheap flights to Japan, while the closest I'll ever get to it is visiting Liberdade.

>>67929887
>dubbed anime
>OH SHIT NIGGA WHAT ARE YOU DOING.JPG
Get Western animation shows instead, they have way better quality than dubs and are spoken way more clearer than series/movie stuff (if you're advanced already, disregard this).

My brother went from "videogame-menu-vocabulary" to "actually understands things" after watching 4 seasons of his favorite cartoon that got canceled in Brazil. His only choice was to watch the English version with no subtitles instead.

My favorites, from best to less best: Time Squad, Adventure Time, Invader Zim, Powerpuff Girls, Gravity Falls, Dexter's Lab, Cow and Chicken, Over the Garden Wall, Ed Edd 'n' Eddy. The great thing about these for me (since I already know English) is they rely heavily on dialogue instead of visuals, so I can watch them while I work on my second monitor.

>>67930428
What kind of weird ass river is this? Is this from a game or something?

>>67930405

lol nice green flag pal. green is the color of shit sometimes.

>>67930461
At least you can AFFORD to take a vacation to Japan

Me on the other hand, I can't afford a vacation to Japan because my flag means all my money has to go to school.

And when I do have the money, I have to use it to move to Japan. There is no vacation or visit beforehand.

>>67930444
JLPT isn't low quality, it's just by grade level instead of by newspaper frequency.

I agree that the less you do the longer it'll take though

>>67930490
Yeah, looks like you have it worse than me. I'm trying to save up some money to go to Japan as an exchange student.

>>67930490
>my flag means all my money has to go to school.
Too real for me.
>tfw just want to be a mangaka already

>>67930498
>JLPT isn't low quality, it's just by grade level instead of by newspaper frequency.

I'm talking about the anki decks, not the order. Reread
>If there are JLPT decks with sentences with full native audio that's fine too I guess

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>>67930428

>>67930536
My co-worker told me $5,000 gets you 4-years bachelor's degree in Jamacia

Fuck I could move to Germany and get almost free education there.

I wish these options were viable for me. But..i'm sure somewhere there's an option for me. Somewhere.

>>67930542
We can suffer together. Associate's is easy mode. Bachelor's degree is when the school loans kick in and we face the reality that the only viable method for us Americans to move to Japan is to default on our student loans and look over our shoulders for the IRS to find us for the rest of our naturals lives

It hasn't kicked in yet, but i'm sure it

>>67930593
That's not anki, it's intermediate hell. Nobody knows how many laps you have to do before you can continue your journey

>>67929793
What happened to imouto? Why did he stop posting?

>>67930007
本を読むの方がいいんじゃない?

>>67930652
Exactly 3142

あなたの幸運を祈る

>>67930593
So what happens when you go into RTK?
Is that uncharted territory?
No one knows?

>>67930481
>My brother went from "videogame-menu-vocabulary" to "actually understands things" after watching 4 seasons of his favorite cartoon that got canceled in Brazil. His only choice was to watch the English version with no subtitles instead.
Shit, I really should do that too (with Japanese, of course).
Reading and writing is usually fine, but I always find myself having a hard time keeping up with the normal pace of a conversation. Sometimes the speaker is already done with their sentence and I'm still trying to remember the meaning of a word that was said in the middle of it.

What animes would you suggest to help improve my 聴解力?

>>67930628
Who would pay $5,000 to study in Jamaica, though? I mean, it's a beautiful place and all, but I doubt anyone would be willing to give up on a high-quality education for some beaches and raggae niggers.

>>67930665
He was banned on our first day here
Probably for "avatarfagging", I guess
Which is really a shame, because he was one of the most helpful posters, despite all his roleplaying

>>67930757
In America, people don't care what kind of education you get, just that you have the paper which is why you want to get it at as cheap of a price as you can.

>>67930757
>What animes would you suggest to help improve my 聴解力?
Teekyuu

>2 年齢や値段などのおおよその範囲を表すのに用いる。「20歳台で父を失う」「1ドルが100円台になる」
Well that's a new usage

>>67930757
From an American mindset, I don't fucking care how I get the degree. It's the only way you can enter Japan besides getting married.

Try to remember Japan does not offer holiday working visas to Americans like they do to Europoors.

>>67930628
Are there other wanted jobs in Japan nowadays that isn't English Teacher? This whole aspect of needing a career to stay in Japan is probably the only difficult thing about it.

Anyone else here read バカとテストと召喚獣?
Volume 15 is out yesterday.

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>>67930428
But the boat sinks too fast along with the trees!

>>67930856
I like the anime, should probably give the LNs a try sometime.

高宮なすのです

Why the fuck do you want to live in Japan you weeaboos? Don't go defile one of the few countries that isn't third world and hasn't been shat on by race mixing.

>>67930834
Do what i'm doing Ameribro

Computer Science into IT. IT jobs in Japan are fucking tight.

Once you're in Japan, make it your fucking goal to get married. I don't care how you fucking do it dude, get married.

Once you're married and get the marriage visa, you can be a job hopping little fuck and switch to a job that's actually fun.

But your bachelor's degree is the first step.

>>67930924
>tfw got tired of this Computer Science shit a year in
S-surely there's another way.

>>67930757
You sure it's only avatarfagging? Looks like an act of jealousy to me. Imouto has been here for more than a year already, I'm sure he'll come back just like any other anons.

>>67930955
Nope. Just remember there's a payoff at the end.

I hope you aren't going to "start" the japan transition after the bachelor's either. I would say once you get your associates and start working towards bachelor's, start making connections and seeing what programs are available, start talking to counselors, making japanese friends, etc.

Remember, as an American you won't have the money to afford a JLS (Japanese Learning School) which is a school designed to prep you for the japanese workforce. Without access to that program you're going to have to put in some footwork on your end to make up for it.

If I were to make a guideplan for a transition like this..

>Start college - Start learning japanese
>Get associates

>Go for bachelors - Take any japan-related classes you can find. What you're specifically looking for is classes to join the japanese workforce. Yes, universities teach that shit. Not all of them though. Do your research. It is during this class that you'll be talking with the professor about going for your IT career path

>Attain bachelor's

>Realize you now have a $20,000+ student loan

>leave the country and never come back

Have fun and がんばって

>>67930757
>>67930961
Imouto could just drop the avatars. His posts are obvious enough already, and (no longer an issue, but) nobody would complain about him anymore.

>>67930785
I don't think I'll enjoy it, but at this point I'm willing to do anything to improve.

>>67930782
That's pretty fucking lame. But I guess it's a major problem in universities everywhere nowadays.
It really annoys me that people only want to get a college degree to improve their job prospects. I mean, universities used to be meant for people who wanted to do research and produce knowledge and do some good to the world somehow. Now it's full of shitty SJWs and niggers who use it as a way of hiding from their parents the fact that they are complete failures in society.
And affirmative action policies have only been making things worse. There's no way a non-meritocratic approach to the admissions process can result in academic productivity.

>>67930829
I don't even know how japanese visas work for brazilian citizens. I should probably look into it.
Well, at least you can take advantage of the JET programme and get paid to go there, since you're a native English speaker, which is not an option for me despite my being fluent.

>>67930961
I guess things changed when we (were) moved here. I hope he comes back, but someone certainly holds some kind of grudge against him, be it a mod or some anon who might have reported him.

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So I went to talk to the mods on IRC

Please tweet Hiro @hiroyuki_ni and post in feedback https://www.4chan.org/feedback
Only send intelligent, constructive, friendly messages about how beneficial DJT is for /a/ and it doesn't fit on /int/.

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>Reading light novels
>think you're actually learning Japanese
Uh...

>>67931127
>JET

Complete and utter cancer

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>learn Japanese for the porn, it's easy!
>see this
What a mistake... Nanka chigau yo...

なんで日本スレ二つあんの?
内ゲバでもして内部分裂したのか気持ち悪い

>>67931238
What kind of porn are you reading?
That's the most text I've ever seen.

>>67931175
Neah it's better on /int/ or /jp/ desu
Definitely not on text boards though. Posting images is pretty useful

>>67931175
>WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT
>don't lose heart, friend
>ya~y
What the fuck is wrong with him

>>67931204
Yeah, it might be a desperate measure, but still a valid one nonetheless.

>>67931238
体術
強化
訓練用
特殊
法術
着
Also, title? Reverse search didn't work.

>>67931175
Holy shit that asan guy seems autistic as fuck and the first guy just has some irrational hate for threads discussing the same topic 24/7

>>67931265
>内ゲバでもして内部分裂したのか
ちがうよ?

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>>67931271
>>67931315
Sorry I made that meme like two years ago, I don't remember it. That said porn has strings of kanji all the time, pic related

Thanks for the replies on my questions. Heisig advises against doing vocab before RtK but fuck that I like the one guy telling me to do RtK Core and Tae Kim at once. Work. Devote all my free time to Japanese. Repeat.
Also, there are 151 active threads on /int/. I know because I have 150 hidden right now. Were the mods implying something when they moved this to a 3DPD board without spoiler text/images?

Why do some anons seem to want to move to Japan?
This country may be relatively safer than other countries but working environments here are shit and people are very passive aggressive.
There's a reason why many of us kill ourselves despite our country being first world.

>>67931238
>地球温暖化
>未確認飛行物体発見
wtf I thought よつばと was supposed to be easy!

>>67913851
how's it like being ousted from /a/?

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>>67931440
I'm addicted to reading Japanese books and import fees will probably mount up to be more than the cost of actually moving to Japan at some point
I wanna just walk to a used bookstore and buy LNs dirt cheap. Where I live in merica we have used bookstores where you can get 5 books for $1 or 1 book for 25 cent each.
>inb4 just pirate
The moment you step foot outside of the CoR's file list you're in a jungle of fuckery and dead torrents.

>>67931454
But those are (technically) single words, and relatively common ones at that.

>>67931440
You guys don't make noisy conversations on public transport and you keep to yourselves unless you have a reason to speak to someone.
That alone justifies moving to Japan.

>>67931440
To leave my old life behind and start from zero.

>>67931440
>Why do some anons seem to want to move to Japan?

God-tier social interaction.

Friendships actually MEAN something in Japan.

Yes, work culture sucks, but it''s a pro/cons tradeoff honestly.

Beautiful landscape too.

>>67931498
I know. I was just shitposting, sorry.
I actually had a very fun time with these long-ass kanji-row words coming up all of a sudden while reading よつばと

>>67931535
Isn't it notoriously difficult to make friends in Japan after compulsory education? Even more so as a foreigner?

>>67931440
I honestly just like kanji and would love to see them in my daily life, that's all.

I know theres some other memerisers here, how far are you?

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>>67931586
Just wondering, how new are you?
I've found as time goes on I give less hoots about kanji in that kind of way. At some point after seeing each one thousands upon thousands of time they become just as banal as normal letters.

>>67931636
Not even the same medium. How is this fair
>inb4 Japanese have magic handwriting anyways

>>67931648
>Not even the same medium
wat

>>67931636
I've been studying like a madman for about a year
I'm still fascinated by kanji and my goal is to pass Kanken 1 (pls don't laugh)

>>67931497
Japanese books aren't worth your life.
You will end up in the suicide forest before you buy so many books.

>>67931505
Not being able to make noisy conversations is a part of reason we are depressed.
We feel very restricted always.
You don't want that.

>>67931521
Japan isn't Isekai.
You can't become Toyota.

>>67931535
This >>67931571
Friendships mean something only in your jap cartoons, not in real jap life.

>>67931586
Why not China instead?

>>67931687
>not in real jap life

spotted the hikkokomori

>>67931667
The left one is presumably ink with a brush while the right one is digital with some default pen.

>>67931687
Because Chinese sounds like utter shit. I love how it looks when written, but I literally feel like throwing up when I hear it
Japanese is like the best of both worlds

>>67931669
>my goal is to pass Kanken 1
Same, actually. Maybe in 20 years or so.

>>67931669
I hope I don't sound condescending here, but 納得できる. Kanken 1 is a good goal, I hope you can retain that manic enthusiasm for something. But like, when you're like me, and you recognize pretty much every kanji you see, and you no longer are even studying kanji because you just pretty much know all the ones used, that enthusiasm will be put to the test I think.

>>67931687
>You can't become Toyota.
Fuck you. You can't stop me from becoming a car

>>67931636
I learned this when I was in first or second grade at elementary school.

>>67931687
>Not being able to make
All that means is that there are less people I would hate in Japan lol.
Plus I can make whatever kind of eroge I want in Japan and not be arrested for offending people.

>>67931440
>Why do some anons seem to want to move to Japan?
Not move, just visit. A lot of my jap friends recommend me to visit there because. Anime and manga? The fuck is that. It's like the whole culture shat itself and that's what anime and manga is.

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>>67931751
>Anime and manga? The fuck is that.
Ree get out of....
Oh, wait.

>no learning method arguments
>no stats arguments
>no grammar arguments
I never thought I'd miss pure cancer.

>>67931521
>>67931521
you're basically me

i'm ready to leave my culture behind and discover the new world

>>67931797
this is why we can't have flags on /DJT/

this is becoming /pol/. we don't BELONG here

>>67931521
>>67931801
Good quote I read somewhere:
"You couldn't be a normal person in your home country, why do you think you'd succeed in another country?"
At the end of the day it's the same shit with a different coat of paint. Go to work. Pay bills. Your choice to actively interact with people who will be just as difficult if not moreso than your home country's.

>>67931175
asan is cute

>>67931316
It's not just the first guy apparently, I guess. I don't see how this kind of thread is a problem as long as they're only a few (how many were they? like 5?) and they aren't discussing a series (since there are regular threads for that)

>>67931687
>it's an engrish teacher regrets his decisions and tries to cope episode

>>67931726
がんばりましょう、同国人

>>67931734
Thanks for your support, senpai
To be honest, knowing the kanji isn't enough for me anymore. I start freaking out and feeling like shit whenever I see a kanji that I know but can't to write down.
It's become sort of a "gotta catch 'em all" obsession

>>67931797
No one's posted anything to go off of so we're just responding the nihilistic Jap(anese guy)

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>>67931797
Post hanzi grids

>>67931853
You don't need anything to go off
If you're learning japanese there should be a million djt-relevant things on your mind
memorization, grammar patterns, words, confusion, dekinai, dekiru, study progress blogposting, what are you reading, etc

>>67931832
>To be honest, knowing the kanji isn't enough for me anymore. I start freaking out and feeling like shit whenever I see a kanji that I know but can't to write down.
>It's become sort of a "gotta catch 'em all" obsession
Well that too is gonna fade before too long if you keep it up. Like, did you know kanken 1 has 6000 some kanji? That's about 3000 kanji you'll never see and will have to actively study solely from study books. It won't be *too* long until you just don't see kanji you don't know or can't write.

>>67931825
Nice way to deflect from the reality that people do succeed in other countries all the damn time.

Look at Arnold Schwartezeneggar. Moved to America, become a movie star, becoming a fucking governor of a fucking state.

It's not always about success int he workforce though. Most of us ALREADY KNOW Japan's economy is worse than the U.S. And that moving to Japan will limit your ability to financially succeed.

So there has to be other reasons to want to move to Japan. And those reasons are pretty much everything Japan provides that other countries do not.

Which is a lot, to be frank.

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>>67931872

Post J-CAT or JLPT scores

I should probably retake J-CAT at some point

>>67931907
Arnold Schwarzenegger was a body builder foreigner perfect for a niche role in movies. He's not really a good example unless you are specifically aiming to say you're going to play the white villain in Japanese movies.
Putting that all aside, of course people moving from poor Euro countries to rich America will often find success. However, to someone in America, Japan has no economic benefit. So it's 100% a personal choice. And if you're such... well, if you have enough personal problems to think moving countries will help you, then that's a pretty low chance of moving countries actually being helpful. It'd be far better to just read books on how to be social or whatever.

>>67931885
>3000 kanji you'll never see and will have to actively study solely from study books
Hm... When you put it like that, putting all that time and effort into studying for the Kanken really does sound like a total waste.
I'm still rather far from being done with the 常用漢字 anyway, so I guess I'll just cross that bridge when I come to it.

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>>67931978
Well I fucked up

>>67931978
JCAT pretty much asks the same questions every time so I think it's not gonna be accurate unless your skill has actually raised by 100 points

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>>67931978
I guess it's about time I retake it too

>>67931980
Your proverb pulling ass should also be aware that there is a difference between financial success and social success.

Money can't buy happiness. People aren't going to Japan to make money.

You can argue your viewpoints all you want, but you're on the other side of life, the life where you threw away your family prospects, and friend prospects, just so you can buy three more cheeseburgers a week than I can

Also, I am socially successful. I broke up with my girlfriend six months ago because she didn't want me to go to Japan. Don't take me lightly, kid.

>>67931984
It's a waste of time in terms of being practical, because you'll never ever see them used (and additionally, the kanken actually makes a lot of questions tricky so even if you know the kanji you could mix it up, like saying "how do you read 大分, you think daibun, too bad it's oita"), but it can be spiritually fulfilling.

>>67932038
Well considering it's been over a year since I last took it, I can't remember any of the questions anymore. I would probably have to actually do some studying before taking it too, been slacking way too much

>>67932058
>Also, I am socially successful. I broke up with my girlfriend six months ago because she didn't want me to go to Japan. Don't take me lightly, kid.
I agree with you but that was just plain embarrassing.

>>67932058
I only mentioned financial stuff because you brought up Arnold being a famous movie star dude, he was a personal success (alpha who lifted weights and got chicks) before he even moved to America.
The "proverb", by the way, is largely referring to the fact that if you can't be happy where you live now, you probably won't be able to be happy wherever you movie. Greek Stoicism is all about how what matters isn't your environment, it's how you react to your environment. That's what I'm talking about.

>>67932058
>Money can't buy happiness
Just how true is this?
If it doesn't then Japan seems golden to live in.

>>67930924
How okay is it to marry and have halfies? It must be a disgrace right?

>>67931316
>some irrational hate for threads discussing the same topic 24/7
That isn't irrational as the entire point behind how 4chan functions is that topics are created, discussed then naturally die. Constantly recreating the same threads every day, linking the previous ones, etc. are basically making a Frankenstein's monster of a thread.
Unsurprisingly hotpockets-kun knows more about 4chan than some self entitled Mongolian bastard child.

>>67932142
Psychological studies tend to say that ~$39k per year makes you the happiest, but any more or any less and your happiness tends to go down out of stress or boredom.

>>67932058
You're pretty serious anon. Why is it so important for you to go to Japan?

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LEARNING JAPANESE IS ABOUT BEING A GRINDER! SOMEONE WHO FIGHTS THEIR WAY THROUGH ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY GO THROUGH! DON'T GIVE UP ON YOUR REPS! DON'T GIVE UP ON READING! DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOUR GOALS AND YOUR DREAMS!

YOU WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR READING? GRIND! YOU WANT A LARGER VOCABULARY? GRIND! YOU WANT TO LEARN JAPANESE? GRIND! IT'S ABOUT WAKING UP EARLY, STAYING UP LATE, AND DOING WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO REACH YOUR GOALS! YOU HAVE TO RISE AND GRIND!

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUTTING IN HOURS, IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE HOURS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN! YOU CAN'T BECOME GREAT UNTIL YOU FIGHT GREATNESS! YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT OUT OF JAPANESE IF YOU'RE GOING AFTER WEAK AND EASY TARGETS! YOU DON'T CLIMB A MOUNTAIN BY LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM! YOU CLIMB A MOUNTAIN BY CLIMBING TOWARDS THE SUMMIT! DON'T TRY TO AVOID THE HARD PARTS AND GO AROUND THE DIFFICULT READING MATERIAL! TAKE IT HEAD ON AND FIGHT YOUR WAY THROUGH IT!

>>67932118
Generally, people perform inadequately in an environment they don't agree iwth

If you're rotting in an american society whose mindsets you don't agree with, like the mindsets that wanted donald trump, you would perform poorly in such an environment.

it just makes factual sense to move yourself to a society whose mindsets agree with your line of thinking

shove that in your greek stoicism

>>67932248
How many hours do I gotta put in before I'm competent? 1000?

>>67932298
Not a real question.

If learn the basics in 10 hours and immerse yourself in Japan for the remaining 990 hours you'll be fluent.
If you do what 90% of /djt/ does (nonstop anki cards) then maybe it'll take you 10,000 hours.

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>>67932298
I'm pretty competent at watching anime these days

>>67932293
You know that the Republican party equivalent has been heading Japan for awhile? If you go into Japan you're not like to find a political environment you agree with more so than America's.

>>67932344
how good is your Japanese?

>>67932381
pera pera

>>67932338
>it'll take you 10,000 hours.
地獄だ

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>>67932353
Nigger fuck you i've been on top of this shit since the election

Trump said he wanted to give Japan nuclear weapons during the campaign like a fucking idiot

And now Shinzo Abe is fucking scared like a panzy that Trump's going to demolish the U.S./Japan Alliance and his only comfort was Trumps' team telling him "don't take trump seriously pls"

Fuck you nigger. The japanese are pretty scared about Trump right now and I agree with them.

This is the exact divide i'm seeing right now, where I don't agree with YOUR line of thinking, I don't even fucking want this flag anymore. That's why i'm /out/

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>>67932058
You should probably do a quick reality check, and see if you're actually on the right track. Not that your plan will never succeed, just that it's very, VERY, difficult to do so and you must be prepared for the many hurdles you'll have to jump over just to live comfortably.

If someone thinks that a new environment is the answer when they are somehow floundering in their current one, it USUALLY isn't... not to discourage you, but do really really think hard about it.

This video gives a really good insight into this topic, I suggest you give it a listen sometime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyP3EGpZ-c8

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>>67931978
This was after a year of studying. I'm going to take it again soon though

>>67932338
>If you do what 90% of /djt/ does (nonstop anki cards) then maybe it'll take you 10,000 hours.
That would actually be pretty impressive considering you could be at native middle schooler level vocabulary in less than 500 logged hours.

>>67932381
If it's spoken I usually don't have much trouble. I only really have trouble with kanji

>>67932402
Let me guess, you're from the west of USA.

>>67932338
>immerse yourself in Japan for the remaining 990 hours you'll be fluent.
>990 hours
>40 days
>fluent in 40 days

>>67932423
I'm dead serious.

>>67932402
Woah man, I said "republican equivalent" as in they're back asswards and hella disagreeable for a modern liberal. Not that Abe is literally Trump.
>>67932423
That's almost 3 years of 1 hour a day

>>67932182
That is only true when a general is dead or simply just shitposting. Basically, when all it is is just a bunch of bumps by 3 guys until it gets to the bump limit (pick a random /vg/ thread and you're likely to find something like that). If they have actual discussion, then it's just like a normal thread. It dies when it's over, and if people care they make a new one.

>b-b-b-but it always has the same OP?
How does that matter? The old one was deleted, that stuff is still useful and is the topic of the thread.
The same can also be said about stickies and having more than a board, by the way.

>linking the previous ones
This is because of (external) archives. If they didn't exist it would be pointless.

Generals aren't a problem, the problem is how they tend to be used, which can be changed.

>>67932427
Too bad we want to be proficient here, not just be able to fluently ask where the toire is

>>67932423
You don't stay up 24 hours. Recalculate it.

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>>67932417
Kanji is really easy to learn though, it's just time consuming as hell.

Spoken dialogue tends to be several magnitudes easier than proper narration / normal prose, as well. I suggest reading as much as possible.

>>67932441
You scan be fluent in a month as an exchange student.
Especially for a language as 'easy' as Japanese.

>>67932447
66 days for anyone curious (1 hour subtracted from 16 for theoretical meals and bathroom and stuff)

>>67932481
http://vocaroo.com/

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What would you name your child if you were Japanese?

>>67932447
Assuming you sleep for 8 hours, you are up for 16 hours
>fluent in 61 days
I don't think so

>>67932484
There is a thing called mental fatigue and/or mental illness. Even if you could technically do it in that amount of time, your brain needs some time to actually process it eventually.

>>67932419
>Let me guess, you're from the west of USA.

New England

The states up here OVERWHELMINGLY Voted Clinton in landslide victories in every state, and the state I live in (MA) is sponsoring Jill Stein's efforts for election recounts

We're the only part of the country that has our heads on straight and got dragged down by the rest.

And now this shis is gonna effect Japan relations hard. Right after Barack Obama visited Hiroshima and started remedying our divide, too..

>>67932500
アララララギ

>>67932500
How do you not repeat names?

>>67932527
Dude calm down Trump will make his company a bunch of money and won't bring coal jobs back and then will be out in four years, the only people fucked are those relying on the supreme court.

If we're lucky he'll fuck stuff up enough that the republicans lose the senate too

>>67932527
You should go get a red pill from >>>/pol/
I'm sure it will all be alright

>>67932500
きらきら きらきら

>>67932500
>箱女 → パンドラ
綺麗じゃん

>>67932344
>>67932417
Is that you, Finny?

>>67932550
It'd be nice if I could put my life on hold for 4 years to see if the environment becomes better

But try to remember we live on a time limit anon. We're getting older every second. I can't wait four years. I won't be in America in four years. Mark my words.

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>>67915188
φίλε μήπως έχεις αυτισμό; σε είχα δει kαι στο 日本語スレ να σkατοποστάρεις μαλαkίες πέρι λούφι kαι ουάνπις kαι παλιότερα, τόσα χρόνια kαι δεν έχεις βαρεθεί αkόμα;

when are you people fucking off back to >>>/a/ anyway?

>>67932608

Hopefully you'll have already died so you won't be plaguing either country.

>>67932631
>when are you people fucking off back to >>>/a/ anyway?
ask kinomod

>>67932608
Global warming is gonna fuck Japan a lot harder than it fucks the Northeast US. A lot of what republicans want to do is just to relax federal law. That means the red states are free to fuck themselves over and the blue states will just keep on going as is.

>>67932552
Americans are just overexaggerating, but they really are panicking for some reason. Trump will make America great again, but they only see the bad.

>>67932552
So this is the future of /djt/
Political posting, """""red pills"""" and other bullshit.
fml.

>>67932756
I'm kind of surprised there's no Koreans to be honest.

Why are you discussing USA politics here? There are threads on this very board for that.

>>67932647
and you finally reveal your powerlevel

so, in the end, you created an environment hostile to people entering the country, then turn around and ask americans why they're leaving the country

ironic

>>67932778
The flags are pretty damn distracting, unfortunately, seeing as nobody from the original /a/ threads are used to them.

It's also very easy for /int/ natives to drop in and derail with a sorta, not really related topic.

Perhaps we should bring back old thread activities like posting kanji in the thread, anki stats, better recommendation images? It would be nice to include a wider range of media now that we're not on /a/, stuff like video games, dramas, youtube channels?

>>67932897
No, abandon thread and make non-DJT learning threads on /a/.