/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Din-dins are ready!

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

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Feed me memes.

MEMES!

>>61987130
Kill yourself you poorfag

>there are people in this very thread right now that paid more then $10 for headphones that they eq'd to sound like staxs
Wew fucking lad

>>61987169
I think up to a couple hundred are worth it for luxurious comfort when it comes to a candidate for equalization, but beyond that is ludicrous.

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>>61987082
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

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>>61987140
Today I will remind them.

>>61987213
A 50 dollar USB dac and a 20 dollar pair of headphones from walgreens.

>>61987198
>Paying for comfort
>Not forcing yourself to mentally ignore the headphones
How does it feel overpaying for shit?

>>61987229
Ahagon and hifumi love HD600 too.
Nene uses the cheaper HD579s, as she's still just a student scrapping by.

>>61987229
>Snap

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>>61987259

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>>61987229
>tralucent, dulce+ mids

What did Anon mean by this?

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>>61987198
This. Also reminder there are some things eq cannot correct like ringing, nulls in the frequency response, and distortion.

>>61987229
>Yunposting on /g/

>>61987300
TL;DR: HD600 are great and you should buy them

>>61987341
>There are some things eq cannot correct
>Being this flawed when it comes to eq'ing
I shiggy diggy

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>actually spending more than 20 dollarydoos
>on a shitty pair of sennheiser placebos
just EQ my shit up

>>61987300
It clearly means pellucid, euphonic midrange. Don't you speak English?

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>>61987349
>>61987448
Really?

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I picked up a PV2V2 at a garage sale for $2.
Is this thing any good?

>>61987665
Literally end-game.

any god-tier alternatives to this? I want leather only because it's easier to keep clean

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00HXAV0UY/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

Are the HM5 sheepskin ones an actual alternative? Foam looks too thin on it.

How uncomfortable are etymotic headphones really? They seem to be the best iem under $500 but I don't wanna have to take them out after 3 hours

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>>61988037
>paying more than 20$ for a pair of headphones
>not just EQing efficiently

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>>61987169
>>61987257
>>61987391
>>61987416
>>61988087
>dollarydoos
>I shiggy diggy
>wew fucking lad

You might as well give yourself a trip at this rate, anon.

>>61988148
>can't even (you) properly
Wew fucking lad

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I'm no audiophile, but I got the new Piston Hybrid's. I don't know if this is the right term, but they sound a bit "empty". Something seems off about them, and they're also stupidly loud compared to my other earphones.
What's going on here? I've got a broken pair of original Hybrid's, only one side works though so any comparison I make is based off one ear. I'm not sure they seem as good though really. I liked my old Piston Hybrids

What should I get in their place? KZ's I'm not high on, just looking for suggestions.

>>61988087
>put shp9500 driver in hd600 housing
>eq to hd600
>compare AB
you think they'll sound identical?

>>61988037
Depends on the sleeves used. Compliant sleeves, soft silicone and foam will help. I can wear them for more than 16 hours at a time.
The fit issue is overstated, and the Etys in general are much slimmer than most other earphones. Simple to insert, without requiring you to force some giant bulge deep. But not everyone actually likes putting things in their ear to start with.

>>61988237
You want bass
niggbass is good and most people would probably even prefer it.
t. Sony XBA fan

>>61988148
>Being this easily irritated
I shiggy diggy doo, famalamabam senpai

If I input analog audio into a line out port on my dac, will it damage it? (the out port is a secondary one that dosen't go through the amp)

>>61988254
So, any suggestions? I did quite like my Piston 2's, maybe my favourite IEM's actually and they're considered quite bassy, aren't they?
Maybe that is it, weird though considering I don't listen to much with bass, though I know they're in different contexts

What's the latest good cheap headphones under $50? Fell for the Superlux 668B memes when they break within a year.

>>61988507
SHP9500 is $50 on new egg. K240 is about $55. Porta pros and Koss KSC75 are nice

>>61988507
>Under $50
:^)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190

>>61988326
plz help ;_;

>>61988527
>>61988535
Last time I heard about the shp9500 people said it literally fell off your head at slight movement. True?

>>61988535
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4P01VR6930

:D

>>61988547
The SHP9500 does; the SHP9500S has a tighter clamp, but is still pretty light. Newegg is selling the S. The non-S has been discontinued for quite awhile now.

>>61988556
>Under $50
:^)

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I'm looking for: $80-$150, detachable cable, foldable, and open back.

I'm on superlux hd681 and am ok with it except the cable doesn't detach, it doesn't fold, it's not really comfortable, and highs can be bad.

I'm looking at ath-m40x but I'm concerned about the non-existent sound stage from being closed.

>>61988598
BAD BOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v_8g9vhNzk

>>61988607
S-sorry

>>61988037
Etymotic comfort varies from user to user due to differences in ear canal size and shape.

>>61988604
>foldable open back with detach cable

Hifiman edition s?

https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-Closed-Foldable-Dynamic-Headphones/dp/B01DZQT9UM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1503178004&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=hifiman+edition+s&psc=1

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Never forget.

>>61988604
Sennheiser 518/558

Beyerdynamic DT990 if using EQ.

>>61988087
Can't EQ away non-linear distortion.

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>>61988656
>HD579
That's excellent value. Idol trash approves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb2_iJkE01g

>>61988698
>noise from a frontal loudspeaker
>frontal
The key word here is frontal. The sound of a frontal loudspeaker is not relevant here. See: http://hauptmikrofon.de/theile/1986-3_Standardization-of-studio-headphones_JAES-1986.pdf
>A study of recent work on the properties of spatial hearing shows that the free-field equalization applied to headphones cannot produce good results. A more satisfactory equalization is obtained by reference to the diffuse field...
Headphones do not present spectral properties similar to that of frontal speakers.
Free-field (frontal) equalization in headphones produces linear distortions referred to in the above study as "tone color defects." Therefore, HD600's accuracy relative to frontal speakers is completely irrelevant in terms of its perceived neutrality.

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>>61988709
But they ain't foldable...

>>61988754
Then see
>>61987414

>>61988754
The point is VARIANCE between listeners.

>>61988656
>>61988698

I don't think these fold.

>>61988659

That actually looks pretty ideal if they actually manage to do open/close setting well.

>>61988843
They don't fold, that's why I deleted. Neither does >>61988698

>>61988772
>>61988801
Putting
>HD600
>neutral
at the top of the image leads one to believe that the point is not demonstrating that different people will perceive any headphone differently, but to attack the HD600 by implying it's not neutral because people don't perceive it the same as they do frontal speakers.

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Are there any headphones/earbuds you guys recommend for use when sleeping?


I've gone through two different headphones so far and I sure it's because I slept with them on

>>61988971
Budget?

>>61988971
IEMs with replaceable cables, and sleep on your back

KZ ZS5 desu

>>61988990
Sorry should have stated that, I'm looking to spend no more than $100 this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7aH_YMrvM

>>61989030
I've woken up with a pair of damaged Bose qc3...somehow I managed to get them from my head to my back in a folded position


I've also damaged a couple Sony iem as well..but the QC3 being damaged hurts the most

>>61989068
Can't you just buy parts? Like this:
http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/hifi-tv-headphones/hd-600-avantgarde

>>61989104
I'm sure I could but I'll probably spend more on parts than I would buying a used on eBay. I wouldn't even know where to begin to figure out how to fix it. There's a lack of QC3 guides online

>>61989068
I'm not surprised. That's why I recommended a cheap, cost-effective IEM like the ZS5

You could get an extra braided cable for it, as well as some more comfortable eartips for sleeping in

>>61989301
Well, maybe BOSE wasn't a good idea after all, in hindsight.
When making the decision on spending on items for long term use like headphones, things like availability of spare parts do matter and should weight into the decision.

Looking for a new pair of headphones and a amp for my recordplayer and computer.
What do you guys think about the magni+modi u2 combo paired with the hd600?

>>61989378
HD600 or HD650 and an NFB-11.28

Depends on your record player though, I don't know what you have

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>>61989378
Idol trash here. >>61987213
It's a great combo, that much I can tell you.

>>61989482
Looking around for a recordplayer as well but since my headphones died that takes higher priority.
Any tips on a decent recordplayer?

>>61989378
It'll work well yeah. Schiit also makes a phono preamp so you could make a 3 stack.

>>61988971
I have slept countless nights with my Sony MDR-V6 on. Most of the time I wake up with them next to my pillow because of all the turning during sleep. Keep in mind that they may block the sound of your alarm in the morning (if you still have them on somehow). This is why I always set an alarm on my phone and my alarm clock.

I've had these headphones since Januari 11 2013. I have been using them every day for multiple hours since I got them and they still work fine.

I wouldn't really recommend sleeping with full size cans, but if you do intent to sleep with them on, get a pair with a flat cup backing (especially if you intent to sleep on your side).

>>61989655
One that connects to your computer via USB, I guess? I'm not too familiar with them, but that way you wouldn't need to worry about having to get an amp with a phono input for it

>>61989734
I usually done that, and it turns out my female jack got busted first than my headphone. Sony classics truly build like a tank, huh

>>61989655
>>61989802
Err, well actually if you had one with USB you'd just plug it straight into the NFB-11, I guess?

>>61989835
Maybe you got a fake pair. It's still a tank in my book.

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>Budget 100 Euro
>Location Ireland
>Source Any
>Type of headphone Over the ear
>Open or closed Open
>Comfort level Important
>Sound signature good bass yo
>Past headphones Apple earpods (Don't even ask)

>>61989348
They're a fine purchase, used the, countless times during rides in the subway etc

The problem is I'm not sure WHAT broke so buying parts isn't an option as I can't find any solutions online at all. I'll probably look into those Chinese items the anon recommended >>61989030
>>61989324
You know I was looking into those ZS5 but there are several versions of those on Amazon, which one should I look into? I'll probably bite for those with the mic cable
>>61989734
What would be the strangest place the headphones ended up after you've woken up? Even with all the turning, I still don't know how mine ended up on my back folded. Curious to see what happens in my sleep because I know I turn around a lot since my sheets end up on the ground at times

>>61989868
>>61989802
I'm pretty new with this trying to figure out all the connections I need and I have to say it is a labyrinth.
Lets say I get the magni+modi u2 combo then I'll have the magni plugged into the modi plugged into my computer. Then I guess I'll have to unplug the modi and connect my recordplayer to the magni in order to use it.
The dream would be to have a amp and dac with the ability to have both the recordplayer and my computer plugged in at the same time but I guess that isn't a thing.

>>61989992
Stretch a little to HD579, else HD558.
Avoid HD559, it's worse.

>>61990031
>>61989868
>>61989802
Actually nevermind. I'll just get the magni, modi, mani and sys from schiit and I'll get everything I need. Guess I'll waste a lot of money and that I will have a huge stack of equipment but whatever.

Sry for bad english

>>61989999
>What would be the strangest place the headphones ended up after you've woken up?
I honestly don't know. I don't think my headphones have ever ended up in a weird place.

I have had other smaller items (like my mini gamepad) that ended up between the sheets at the foot end of my bed. I honestly thought I lost it, but I eventually found it when I was changing out my bed sheets.

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>>61989482
>spending almost 400 dollars on chink brand snake oil

>>61990171
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>61990171
*frosty chink brand snake oil

>>61990171
A quality audio source external from the rest of your system is a good investment, but if you're satisfied using on-board or a sound card, that's fine by me

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>>61990345
>muh quality
There is literally no objective measurable difference between a 50 dollar USB dac and a 400 dollar imported from china placebo. An "end-game" dac/amp combo unit should not cost more than 100$ USD, full stop, and if you paid more than that, you're an audiophool.

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Idols ftw \o/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKWGE7JtYBk

>>61988971
For sleeping? Not ZS5.

>>61989482
>NFB-11.28
lol

>>61990390
Sorry you feel that way, Anon, but I assure you that spending a few hundred combined on an amp and DAC is not nearly audiophool territory.

>>61990466
?

>>61990498
Yeah, I'd say even spending up to $800 bucks isn't audiophool stuff. You ought to try the NFB-1AMP, I've heard it's even better than the 11! Not a scam, I swear.

>>61990498
Seriously, if you're not just joking around trying to be ironic and you actually wasted that much money on a placebo, you are mentally ill and need to get help.

>>61990555
Not anon, but what do you own?

>>61990547
Why would I need all that power?

>>61990555
Thanks for the laugh, Anon

>>61990658
>Why would I need all that power?
It's not about the power, it sounds better.

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What's /hpg/ got on deck?

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>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QleoskVQFVM

>>61990684
>metal
>aggressive tripfag
:)

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>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5UBS-yrlfU

>>61990713
Then what are you waiting, you silly goose! Post your taste!

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>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw-6IIBXNSQ

>>61990712
>chimp spanner
mah nigga
>>61990727
>AAL
mah other nigga

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>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab1DIfDc2Jw

>>61990741
>Cynic
Mah 3rd nigga

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>>61990712
>>61990727
>>61990741
>>61990758
>>61990744
>>61990762
Thanks man. I fucking love me some good djent.

I won't spam, but other artists would include Carnivool, Gordian Knot, Sithu Aye, Dream Theater, etc.

... Fuck it, here's some Sithu Aye too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mGM8GXdBc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n0pww_9JUU

Just got a Modi 2 and a nice cable, but the fucker doesn't want to get the "expert" drivers installed. It works fine without those drivers, but it's capped at 96khz and such.

I'm on Windows 10 and tried almost all of Google said. What do?

>>61990857
>I'm on Windows 10 and tried almost all of Google said. What do?
Do you not have the retards edition, or whatever the latest stable public build is called?
It supports USB audio class2, which is what the so called expert mode exposes.

>>61990857
Contact schiit support. They're pretty good with helping stupid customers.

>>61990857
You shouldn't need any third party drivers, the latest windows 10 supports "expert mode" (usb audio class2) directly.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGMgQie57RA

>>61987082
zs5's are the real deal. I don't usually care about iems because I mostly use them for running and it then comes down to comfort and the song more than detail. All you poorfags/iem fiends need to buy them if you haven't yet. They are genuinely great for the money.

>>61991022
Mine are in the mail. How's the comfort and tips? Most IEMs tend to build up pressure in my ears, do the zs5s do that as well?

>>61991079
Not him, but you should get some new tips for it

>>61987213
Try michael bolton 'once in a lifetime' on spotify or whatever you have access to. You don't have to enjoy this style in order to appreciate this song and his voice. Especially on your/our setup. I'm the guy you used to recommend anime to for a short while, and this isn't my usual music, but it sounds great regardless.

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Idol trash here.
I've got a confession to make. I've plugged my HD600 to my (dell) monitor's soundbar, something that's like 15€. It does sound decent. Back on Magni2 it's an improvement, but it's not that much.
>>61991102
I'll give that a try shortly.

>>61988604
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>61991102
Just finished the song. Sure not my style but yeah, I do agree it sounds awesome. My setup is just ridiculous, it's easy to forget how damn good it is.
BTW: Did you watch Love Live? :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_wx7_Gm3no
>>61988604
Foldable+open is going to be difficult unless you also go on-ear (eww). If you give up the foldable, I'd suggest HD579, which is just about right for your budget.

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Wanna upgrade to some comfy good headphones, i have CB-1s and regret buying them, I've tried my friends beats studio 2.0's and they are so much better, but id like something as comfy as the the bose QC25 or 35, but those suck from what I've heard and i like the beats a lot, what do you guys recommend?

Price range 100$ maximum
I use my LG V20 to commute to school and use my desktop aswell, i have an old sound card that helps the CB-1'S but not crazy, (got it for free)

>>61991140
>I'll give that a try shortly.

Let me know what you think, and I mean in terms of quality when it comes to listening with the 600. I don't really know anything else by him, but I like anything if it sounds great with my 600's when I'm drinking.

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>>61991249
See >>61991236
>I like anything if it sounds great with my 600's when I'm drinking.
Everything sounds great when drinking. That's cheating.

>>61991238
What didn't you like about the CB-1?

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http://www.zmfheadphones.com/order-the-zmf/
Can I copy what these guys are doing to mod those fostex headphones with out having to pay their prices? Is it worth doing? If it is where should I look next for more information?
It just looks like their pads(which look god tier) and headband with some dinoc covering those vents. Is that all there is to it?
Thank you

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what's the best <100 USD headphone in aliexpress? which one of pic related do you recommend? I want something for shoegaze.

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>>61991249
And then I continued with "When a Man Loves a Woman", which ofc sounds absurdly good too.
Just a reminder women aren't adorable like idols. Remember AWALT.

>>61991325
I would go with the takstar pro 82. I think they're gorgeous and I have the takstar pro 80. Comparing the two headphones frequency graphs the 82s seem strictly superior.
I would like to know more about the ISK HD9999 myself but I can't find any measurements, only reviews that say "is good lol".

>>61991236
>Just finished the song. Sure not my style but yeah, I do agree it sounds awesome. My setup is just ridiculous, it's easy to forget how damn good it is.
>BTW: Did you watch Love Live? :^)

Yeah, like I said a few posts below, it's not my style either but the power of drink makes certain things sound much better, and his voice sounds great on that song.

>BTW: Did you watch Love Live? :^)

I'm always tipsy at minimum when I come here, and honestly I don't care about this stuff on a serious level, but I do love japan in general, though I could never watch a 1hr+ video on that. It's just not my thing. Give me a 60fps catchy video/tune and we're talking though.

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>>61991315
Not as good quality as i was hoping, sound wise, comfort wise eh was nice but not my ideal,
Also 32 ohms so i couldn't put my V20 in high impendence mode and they sound quiet as hell on my V20, i can't put it in the mode manually as the phone itself detects the impendence of the headphones etc, you can trick it with an adapter but id rather have nicer headphones, last time i said anything bad about the CB-1s people just sperged out and it was stupid

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>>61990684
Been trying to listen to more genres lately and just discovered this album. Pretty nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM5xJzFhbW8

>>61991325
Seconding the Pro 82, unless you want something open-back

>>61991336
You would enjoy "When man loves a man" more i'm sure.

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>>61991409
Been looking at beats studio 2.0 on eBay aswell in the 100$ range and I'm wary of chink copies so I'm not being careless, been looking at other headphones as id like to spend as less as possible since im a cheap asshole

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>>61991441
I'm MGTOW, not gay.

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I'm about to buy mdr-10rnc, try to stop me

>>61991467
Why do you think you need noise cancelling? Just get closed-back headphones

>>61991325
Is there a specific reason it has to be from Aliexpress? The standard recommendations for sub-$100 here are SHP9500S (erring from neutral on the side of brightness, non-replaceable earpads) and HD558 (erring from neutral on the side of darkness, replaceable earpads), neither of which you'll find on Aliexpress.

>>61991464
Sure, you just suck dicks to fight back to the evil matriarchy.

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>>61991464
I'm retarded, what does MGTOW stand for?

>>61988037
They're the best IEMs at any price point.

Comfort isn't an issue because there's a variety of tips, aftermarket tips, and if you're a faggot you can also shallow insert them for a worse sound (but it still beats everything out there with shallow insertion).

>>61991361
>>61991430
Checking the 82 right now.
>>61991515
Well, it needs to have shipment to Chile. I'll see if I can find those models.
What do you mean by "neutral on the side of brightness/darkness"?

>>61991488
NC is really useless? I would use it mostly in the bus

>>61991534
Men Growing Their Own Way

Some men are too small to attract women, so they "decide" that they don't need women

>>61991336
lel yeah, thanks for the reminder of that song. I'm literally going to test it now. It's been a while. I'm not any of the other twats responding to you. Those guys are too fucking sick for you lad, apparently..

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>>61991619
Oh.

I guess I don't really identify with that then. I'd prefer to be with someone that has a binary gender (i.e., strictly male or female. I'm pretty firmly bi despite years of trying to convince myself I was either straight, gay, pan, demi, trans, queer, or whatever).

>>61991690
somehow the anime avatars gave away your orientation

>>61991515
The SHP9500S does have replaceable ear pads, just not directly from Philips

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>>61991700
Does it? Well, I suppose it doesn't matter anyway, since I'll be alone forever.

>>61991739
not if you shave and turn yourself into a cute girl.

>>61991619
Ahem, I suspect you're confusing them with neckbeards. MGTOW is mostly people who have been in a few relationships, enough to know what's best for them.

>>61991753
I tried that. It actually worked when I was a teenager, but now I'm an adult and all I can pull off is the twink look. I'm not trap enough for the hard trap life.

>>61991782
you could still be someone's pretty femboy slut though.

>>61991739
Tomoko a cute. A cute!!

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>>61991792
That sounds wonderful, but I'm way too introverted and shy for that to ever happen. Also, I have resting bitch-face in public and people always think I'm mad.

I'm like the male version of this.

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>>61991409
>Not good sound quality
>Likes beats
So you want it bassier and darker?
>32 Ohms so I couldn't put it in high impedence mode
Just turn the switch on
>>61991447
Pic related is gross.

My gr07 are dead, any good replacement with detachable cable under ~120usd ?
Also FUCK vsonic buildquality on this pair was shit

>>61991823
GR07 Bass Edition with detachable cable

>>61991813
that sounds pretty adorable actually. shy introverts make good sex slaves. give me an email or a skype or something.

>>61991464
>>61991619
>Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!

>>61991601
ANC is for blocking out low frequency noise.
As it turns out, headphones isolation is completely ineffective at low frequencies. The same goes for in-ears if you don't insert to the reference plane. ANC is built into closed headphones for general isolation.

>>61991733
Using different earpads will change the sound, so not being able to replace the earpads with identical earpads is a legitimate drawback which should be mentioned whenever recommending the headphone.

>>61991587
Erring from neutral on the side of brightness = will be perceived as slightly treble heavy
Erring from neutral on the side of darkness = will be perceived as slightly bass heavy

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>>61991837
you wouldn't really like me if you knew me, also I wouldn't post personal information on 4chan in a million years

>>61991889
i guess. you hate yourself way too much for me to talk to, hope you find someone who likes you and will help you feel better about yourself though. cheers

>>61991906
lol, I don't hate myself. I've just had bad experiences every time I ever opened up to people in the past because I wasn't normie enough for them so I got burned out and just gave up trying.

>>61991447
SAUCE

>Beats

Don't do it, not even the 2.0

Anyone else have audio in/audio out ports that refuse to accept mono cables? Even with a splitter I can't get headphones with 1 cable to have a working mic and headphones.

>>61991862
Are you retarded? I said they DO have replaceable ear pads, just not directly from Philips

I can't post the link without 4chan thinking it's spam, though. Just Google "Philips SHP9500S Replacement Parts"

>>61991965
Exact same ear pads

Why are there so many postings with cute anime girls?

Are there cuties here?

>>61991871
I see. HD559 sell at 170 USD, so they are a no-go. SHP9500 are at 135 USD, I guess I can afford them. Compared to the Pro 82, how are they?
Any other model I should check out?

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>>61991989

>>61991965
>>61991978
I see no indication that the results of that search contain something that isn't a Chinese knockoff of the pads which could very well change the sound.

>>61992003
I said HD558, not HD559. Both HD558 and SHP9500 are a lot better than the Pro 82.

How are Bose quietcontrol 30?

I'm looking for good earbuds, preferably bluetooth but still with a wire around the neck (wired acceptable), that don't sound so bassy they drown out everything and make it sound like the music is coming from a hole in the ground.

Budget around 350 American dolarinos.

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>>61991989
Anonymous don't make me blush. I am wearing my programming socks and skirt.

>>61992003
>HD559
Garbage avoid. They're a downgrade from the HD558.
HD558 is the best/coin they have. Above that, there's the HD579 which is also very good value.
HD598 is almost the same as 558 and not worth it. HD599 is a worse and extremely priceyt HD579.
Above the HD579? HD600 territory.

>>61992035
>>61992055
I meant HD558. The other Sennheiser models are way too expensive for me right now, maybe in a couple of years.
Thanks for the advice, I'll pull the trigger on the SHP9500.

>>61992099
HD579 is <=$150. Surely you can afford that, for a long term purchase?
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-579-Open-Headphone/dp/B01L1IIF1K/

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>>61992046
>programming socks

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>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEULybZnLO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaUvLnruYzQ

>>61992129
cute girl. is that you?

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>>61992129
There really is nothing more manly than wearing stripped socks, watching anime, programming and posting on /g/ all at the same time while sitting on a little pink dildo.

>>61992046
>>61992129
>>61992160
When are you guys going to start those estrogen pills

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>>61991989

>>61992170
I have been taking them since I was 16.

>>61992113
Fuck this is tempting me, if there is a catch on the free shipment I'll be so sad.
I don't get the impact of open and closed back headphones on sound. Is there an audio/video emulating the difference?

>>61987082
Just posted this in the Audio thread:
>Guys, I need a new pair of headphones sub 100$. Been using a pair of Superlux HD668B's for 3 years but its time for a new pair. Any recommendations?

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>>61992191
>since I was 16
You should look like a girl by now, post boi pucci.

>>61991817
Those are the solo's , and i can't turn it on, it doesn't work that way, if you had the phone you would know that it just puts it in standard mode
And the first gen beats sucked ass, but the 2nd and now 3rd are actually well (new company producing them) and pic related is just boobs my man, can't go wrong with them,

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>>61992154
Her name is Ahagon.

>>61992191
hello m'lady
>>61992222
fuck off I'll slash you in half with my katana you creep.

>>61992020
Then return them if they are?

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>>61992222

>>61991915
My friend might let me test out his beats though, not gonna rely on it since the store still has them sitting out , and they sound pretty good in my opinion, i am still researching on better headphones though

>>61992203
>I don't get the impact of open and closed back headphones on sound.
It's difficult to describe properly, but open headphones usually somehow sound more natural and "right." One tangible, easily describable difference is that I can usually perceive bass resonance in closed headphones which is absent from open headphones.

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>>61992248
I bet you don't even know how to use one.

>>61991833
Im thinking about it, but cable wasnt even the problem. Both earpieces failed in less than a year, unlike my old gr06s that are still going strong

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>>61992305
That is where you are wrong, my enemy friend. I have mastered in the training of katana usage for my whole life. My power level transcends any of that living mortal on this planet. With my certified wizardry powers coming in handy, and my blade to combine these two powers creates an ultimate force to be reckoned with.

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What are people using as an equalizer?

>>61992378
TP over the driver

>>61992099
Where can I buy HD 558 replacement pads anyway?

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>>61992369
u lil' bitch, do you think this is a motherfucking game? you better watch your fuckin' mouth, else I might just climb into my mecha, which is also a time-machine that turns into a spaceship, and rain an ungodly ass whoopin' down upon thee' and thy kin

>>61992378
Equalizer APO + Peace UI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCXWMV5YfQ

>>61992378
Equalizer APO + Room EQ Wizard

>>61992129
Ahagon a cute. A cute!!

>>61992420
>>61992451
neat thanks

>>61990713
what did he mean by this

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>>61992418
I have already won, my friend.

>>61990684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzSxIfFKg0Q

>>61992203
Closed feels unnatural. Music is clearly coming from your cans, no matter how good. Speaking while wearing closed headphones is unpleasant as if you were underwater, and you can even hear your breathing and other such internal noises in an exaggerated manner. Using them for an extended amount of time is headache inducing.

Open feel like not wearing headphones at all. As if you were listening to music on speakers in your room, or live. Sounds within your body aren't highlighted like that, and it's possible to speak (or sing ;P) with a natural feel to it, as if you weren't wearing headphones. If loud, other people in the room can hear your music. Otherwise, a few steps away from you it's silence. You'll hear people just fine if they speak to you. They tend to be very comfortable. I can wear my HD600 all day long just fine.

>>61992546
You have a very cute typing style

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>>61992559
Thanks ^_^

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>>61992470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMKKTo4K-kU

>>61992600
I wanna fuck ahagon.

>>61992575
I love you

>>61992266
>>61992546
can't help to feel a little bit biased towards open-back
any anon here prefers closed-back?

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>>61992624

>>61992626
Ultimately, particularly as you haven't had open back, I do strongly suggest open back.
It's like bareback... if you know what I mean.

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>all these cuteposters in the thread right now

Will not having a dedicated soundcard make too much difference?

>>61992626
I have an AC window unit that makes open-back less than ideal.

>>61992687
Compared to good vs shit headphones? No.
And not at all if your motherboard has an amp and hasn't fucked up the implementation. Boards these days tend to be decent, unlike a few years ago.

>>61992626
I don't prefer it but I don't mind it. There are good closed headphones and good open headphones. The issue is, most closed headphones are pretty shit until you get to the OPPO PM-3.

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>>61992653
>Am I kawaii?

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>>61992764

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>>61992203
>free shipping only to US
every fucking time I swear

>>61992626
Open backed headphones are simpler to construct and tune. There are some general trends in the response with open and closed backed headphones, but none of these are definite.
Closed backed headphones block out sound. If you want that, exclude open backed headphones. If you don't care, consider something open backed as well as closed.

Neither is really better.

>>61992949
Open-backed is better according to Tyll from innerfidelity. And before you dispute/ask who that even is, because I know nobody but me in this thread actually read the OP and followed the link to the installgentoo wiki page, he's literally mentioned right there in the wiki for this general as a trusted source for what /hpg/ recommends.

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>>61988237
>>61988453
Any suggestions that aren't the KZ's? Price range is around £35, thought I'd like my Piston Hybrid's more but think it is the bass really. KZ's look uncomfortable

>>61993002
I can't tell if you're serious or not. FWIW, I occasionally make edits to the wiki page.
Open backed headphones usually have a set of traits that are generally useful and desirable for acoustic reproduction. These desirable traits are still a step removed from the actual sound output.
>Tyll
I don't know where he said that. Tyll occasionally shows a few gaping holes in his knowledge. He performs a useful service in headphone measurements, but he has particular shortcomings in acoustics.

>>61993051
the zs5 are comfortable for me. just get better tips

>>61991319
Does anyone know anything about t50rp mods? I'm really interested in this

>>61993405
Really? Which editor are you then because I also edit the page myself. And you're welcome to be as contrarian as you want. You can argue quantum physics with Stephen Hawking if it makes you feel good about yourself. Hell, edit out the links to ijoker's reviews while you're at it, I couldn't care less.

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i want to get HE4XX for clean planer magnetic bass, but with these measurements for the bass, is that what I'll actually get?

If not, is it something that can be remedied with EQ? I'm under the impression that it's not ideal to EQ for bass because it tends to be distorted, at least for dynamics.

>>61993490
>literal autism

>>61993571
>Is it something that can be remedied with EQ?
yes

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>>61993577
>has no idea what Tyll's opinions are
>"gaping holes in his knowledge"
>claims he edits the wiki page
>trying to tell people that open-back and closed-back are purely subjective
Okay kiddo.

>>61993633
Not even him, childo

Can I get recommendations for
>best noise isolation / cancellation (think of airplane motors, crying babies, coworker loudly sniffing back his nose snot, crowded train...)
>Not an audiophile, mainly use for watching movies and youtube videos, listening to audiobooks and chinese cartoon theme musics.
>around $80 (not in the USA but this is for a price reference)
>basically budget noise isolation, even at the price of sound fidelity.

>>61993653
So you don't even know he's the editor in chief of the site either. Figures.

>>61993669
>best noise isolation / cancellation (think of airplane motors, crying babies, coworker loudly sniffing back his nose snot, crowded train...)
iems. ER6SR
>Not an audiophile, mainly use for watching movies and youtube videos, listening to audiobooks and chinese cartoon theme musics.
HD600, HD579, HD558
>around $80 (not in the USA but this is for a price reference)
HD558, CB-1, SHP9500S, MDR-7506
>basically budget noise isolation, even at the price of sound fidelity.
Earplugs.

>>61993405
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/beginning-ultimate-headphone-guide-over-ear-headphones

>>61993571
Bass distortion is incredibly difficult to perceive. I have literally equalized https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/KossKSC75.pdf to flat, Etymotic/planar/electrostatic-like bass without audible distortion resulting. You wouldn't think that'd be possible given the THD measurement, but it's reality. You can't hear that shit.

>>61993571
If you really want good planar magnetic bass, I recommend the monolith m1060 instead, unless you're on a budget and/or don't mind waiting until December for those. Also, hifiman has kind of a shoddy reputation, whereas monoprice has been nothing but a rising star since they started.

>>61993669
IEMs. Use an earmuff on top when needed.

i myself was looking into the MEE audio M6 PRO, Etymotic MK5, and the SE215.

I ended up with the SE215, but it's probably not the best value for sound quality. The earphone and the (detachable) cable is built like a brick though which is what I prioritize more for an IEM to commute with.

if you end up with any of Shure's SE215, make sure to get a clip of some sort because the cable is relatively heavy compared to the competition and this can be uncomfortable without a clip supporting the weight a bit from a shirt.

>>61993743
I've had three Monoprice products and all of them broke within months, none through fault of my own. There's been a lot of reports of even second revision M1060s having problems. I maintain that Monoprice is only useful for cheap cables. They make breaking-prone Chinkshit.

>>61993776
Which products, anon?

>>61993776
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, and I'm sorry to hear that you are plagued by really bad luck, but your experience is not what most people went through who ordered them. And I certainly hope you're not the type who thinks that because a handful of people complained very loudly on a certain forum, that somehow that tiny sample represents the experience of the vast majority of customers.

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>>61993743
>M1060
neither have good reputation with build quality.

>>61993804
A keyboard, a mouse and those cheap closed headphones everyone was raving about a few years ago. Keyboard and mouse were for an old PC I only really use to burn CDs for family these days. Headphones developed stress fractures and fell apart.

>HD558s are still going strong 4 years later
Did have to change the cable about 5 times though. How much longer can I expect them to live?

>>61993819
I won't argue with that, but when it comes to sound, the m1060 destroy the hifiman 400/s/i/x series, and monoprice at least has decent customer support, whereas hifiman is a fucking nightmare.

>>61993823
>Cheap closed headphones
I found your reason then, anon

>>61993819
That isn't the second revision, though?

>>61993872
You can tell it's not because they changed to 2.5mm plugs in the 2nd rev. However, the cracking was still being reported by a tiny handful of people.

I'd also like to take a moment to point out that even the Audeze LCD-2s are known for their cracking. It's kind of why making your headphones with wood in them is a bad idea in general.

>>61993844
It's completely laughable to imply that price = quality, in terms of sound or build, in the world of headphones. You should know better than that.

>>61993900
Let me guess, you paid <$50 and expected non-chink shit?

>>61993900
It certainly doesn't equal quality, but it's also completely laughable to argue that there is no correlation whatsoever between the two. You certainly aren't going to get the same quality sound coming from a cheapo pair of 20 dollar bargin bin headphones at Walmart compared to sennheiser HD600s. There's a certain point where you get into the realm of diminishing returns, but that's also subjective.

>>61993900
Kek. Should I expect Elear-tier quality from $10 shit-buds after eq'ing too?

>>61987082
what headset would you recommend for a 15 year old girl? obviously doesn't autistically care about sound quality, but needs a mic and headset has to be light too. cheap if possible (for my cousin

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>>61993962
Yes

>>61993990
Sennheiser HD600 and get a mic you can just attach to them with velcro.

>>61993997
That ain't yours, is it?

>>61994010
Nah it's mine, but I'm not the dude you were arguing with. I love my elears.

>>61994005
>Cheap if possible

>>61994005
>$315
cmon dude..

>>61993900
you have a point with cherry picked examples like
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSRH1840.pdf

but in general, you're going to have to cough up money to buy headphones with less distortion

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>>61994022
>>61994023
>poorfags trying to justify being degenerate

>>61994046
Glad to see you're back to making OC, Sennheiser shill. But you must be a retard if you aren't expecting treble from v-shaped headphones

>>61994051
i just really don't give enough of a fuck about my cousin to justify spending 300 bucks. Surely there's something <=$150 that will work?

>>61994051
>Cheap if possible
He's asking for poorfag headphones, anon

>>61994068
SHP9500S with the cheapest fucking detachable mic you can find

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190

>>61994068
You will get a better value out of a set of proper headphones and a cheap attachable mic than you will out of a combined headset. I don't have specific recommendations here and if the recipient isn't autistic like you said then you can grab pretty much anything in your price range with decent reviews and it will get the job done

>>61994078
This basically

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>>61994068
>>61994071

>>61994094
>Not spending $10 on shitbuds and eq'ing them perfectly
It's like you want to be scammed, you eq brainlet

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>>61994113
This is the absolute best meme to come out of /hpg/ in a long time.

>>61994062
I'm a different Anon

>>61994136
I was the one who first coined the Walmart shitphones meme a couple months ago you doofus. Now where's that guy who bought HD800s for comfort

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High harmonic distortion can work OK if kept just in the lower bass (higher THD tends to make the bass fuller which can be beneficial on headphones)

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>>61994179
You did a good, anon. Now, I want you to pull your panties down, gently bend over, close your eyes, and hold your breath.

>>61994176
did you at least make it, anon?

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>>61994204
Oy vey, youd do that to an old jew like me?

>>61994221
I could tell you... but then I'd have to kill you :^)

>>61993716
>open headphones generally sound better than sealed headphones. Open designs typically sound more spacious, airy, and transparent, where sealed designs are typically more congested, resonant, and closed-in sounding.
Given the small confines, sound field reverberation is going to be in similar phase as direct sound and/or crushed out by the precedence effect. The rear cavity does have utility in tuning, and presents another element that must be considered in the final sound. Subjective reports of seeming to be congested or airy are normally associated with the magnitude response.
Crosstalk factor for open backed headphones over the spectrum stays well below -20dB. For the few headphones that have even the slightest significant amount of crosstalk factor, you may notice that they aren't the ones considered to have a "large soundstage".

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>>61994340

>under $200
>US
>into phone/laptop
>IEM/ mostly likely wireless
>usually wear headphones for 2-3 hours at a time
>MA750i , fell for the meme

>>61994393
Sennheiser HD600

>>61994376
top secret meme

>>61994348
>not controlling crosstalk via DSP
I mean, given that we're all already EQ'ing our closed headphones to Stax-grade audio, why stop there?

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>>61994393
KZ ZS5 + Bluetooth cable
save your dollarydoos for B&W Nautilus

>>61994490
Are there really plebs who don't have crossfeed enabled in their music and video players?

>>61994197
This is true with the AD1000X

>>61993776
>There's been a lot of reports of even second revision M1060s having problems
Anecdotally speaking, I own a pair of M1060s and they are the best headphones I have ever heard, let alone owned. They're second revision and I've had zero issues with them. I don't really baby them either. My only qualm with the cable, since 3.5mm to split 2.5mm cables aren't exactly commonly available. The stock cable is nice though.

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Are the HIFIMAN HE-400I good for $250?

>>61994828
no

>>61994828
>50% price cut
Whats wrong with a product that can never be outdated yet still receives such a discount? Id be suspocious as hell.

>>61994896
That's the price in Amazon retard.

>>61994915
Which is exactly what I mean. Why the fuck discount such a product for 50%? You think they wanna gift you something for cheap or what?

What's the best <$100 DAC/AMP/audio magician

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>>61994928
Thanks for the help faggot, I'll ask in another place.

>>61994828
They're shit.

>>61994828
Yes

>>61994929
$99 Schiit Fulla 2

>>61994828
They're fine

>>61994828
Just spend $50 more on HD600 which are much, much better.

>>61995042
>No sub bass

>>61995073 new thread

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>>61995066
Incorrect, and debunked.

>>61995092
>Those graphs again
Why even believe you? You don't even own the headphones you constantly shill for

>>61994994
seconding this

schiit fulla 2 is as good as it gets for under 100$

>>61994954
The 400i have been reviewed many many times as being very similar to the HD600s but a bit brighter and with more sub-bass. This means they are slightly less than neutral, but unless you are doing audio engineering work, you do not really want a completely neutral analytical sounding headphone, unless you intend to modify the sound using tube-amps, EQs, and DSPs.

For casual listening I would recommend the 400i over the HD600, but either of those headphones are extremely good for their price point, as well as the monolith m1060s, which I personally would recommend even above the HD650s.

>>61994828
They go used for sub $200
>>61994929
If you want to use low impedance headphones, it's the best thing to get otherwise DAC X6 or MDA.

I need help deciding on an amp and dac for my hd650s. Ive narrowed it down to schiit stack or NFB 11.28. But im still open for other options.budget is ~ $400

>>61996369
Objective 2 + HiFimeDIY Sabre ES9023.