/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61306364
You have a nice, neutral, transparent setup, anon.

>>61304724
>$300 or less, preferably less, would go an extra $50 for something worth it
>USA
>Asus Xonar Essence STX
>Full sized, over the ear only
>Closed
>Max comfy or bust, I wear these things nearly all day
>Warm to neutral

>>61306383
That was the intent of the setup. Wouldn't want my setup to mess with umi's voice.

>>61306395
>closed
Are you 300% sure? Just as an extra check, what are the constraints that force you to compromise and go closed?

>>61306430
I'm aware of the drawbacks but I like (and a good bit of time need) the extra isolation due to noise in the house and to not disturb others. Were my living situation different I'd be open all the way.

>Budget
£150-400 (Although I prefer to go for relative value for money)
>Location
Britbong-land
>Source
Directly into onboard audio on my PC, would potentially be interested in a DAC/AMP but ideally would like something that can still work decently without one
>Type of headphone
Over-ear, open (purely for home use)
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to wear all day
>Sound signature
Somewhat neutral as I listen to all genres (electronic, rock, metal, rap, classical crossover, etc), although I want something that's kinda fun-ish, not completely cold analytical
>Past headphones
ATH-M50S, been using them for about 6 years or so, and I plan on using these at work (as they're closed), but want something a bit better for home use.

Recently I've been looking at Hifiman's HE400i and HE400s, as I'm quite intrigued in getting planar magnetics for my next headphone. I know /g/ seems to be a 2 horse race between Sennheiser and Beyer shills, so this might be the wrong place to ask; but how do these headphones rate against the best at this price point? Anyone tried them and have any (unbiased) feedback about them?

>>61306488
You're pretty much describing HD600 there.

>>61306488
The big issue with Hifiman seems to be build quality.

>>61306486
>>61306430
For reference I'm using a pair of Shure SE-215 IEMs right now, the amount of isolation is almost perfect, though maybe a little too heavy with Comply foam inserts. I'm just sick of sticking shit -in- my ears and want to go back to full-sized cans.

>>61306556
You seem to want something on the higher end of closed. I unfortunately don't know any; It's not helpful that past a certain price point, most headphones are open.

>Budget
around 200€ but i am flexible
>Location
Austria
>Source
For my laptop and phone mainly.
>Type of headphone
full-sized over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
high, i listen to a ton of music for long periods of time
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
70€ marshall IEMs
thanks in advance anons

>>61306634
DT250 80 ohm

>>61306488
400i is very good and the bass sounds remarkably clean. If you don't find your m50s too sharp you should find the 400i to be fine as well. Note that bass by default is very neutral and you'll have to EQ it up if you want a more "fun" sound.
I'd suggest getting them from Amazon so you don't have to worry about the QC. If you get a dud you can get it replaced immediately.

>>61306395
Also DT250 80 ohm. These headphones are the DT770's terribly unappreciated, vastly superior cousin. Much more reasonable treble output while still very comfortable.

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massdrop is selling more of the HD 6XX right now
if anyone is interested

>>61306739
>ETA: Christmas 2017

>>61306739
They need a different color way. Fuck that disgusting cheap looking dark blue plastic.

>>61306649
>>61306703
>Beyerdynamic
>Reasonable treble

DT = Dangerous Treble

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http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-600

http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/beyerdynamic/dt-990-pro

>DT 990 Pro is rated better in all usage categories than the HD 600

>b-b-but rtings is """inaccurate"""

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>>61306788
I fully acknowledge that the majority of Beyer's line has way too much treble but the DT250 is an exception to this.

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>>61306809
"exception"

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>>61306804
>rtings

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>>61306824
It has a modest bass boost and some modest treble peaking, which combine to give it an overall well-balanced sound. The treble isn't ear-rapey like DT770/880/990/1990. Please stop shitposting.
>>61306804
Please stop shitposting. I don't take sides; both sides in this shit-flinging war need to knock it off.

>>61306809
>majority of Beyer's line has way too much treble
For you, maybe. Majority of Beyer's line has the right amount of treble if you're looking into bright headphones that aren't afraid of giving the music a bit more spark.

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>>61306826
>Yes yes goy, only trust reviews from unbiased an impartial websites like InnerFidelity

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>>61306884
InnerFidelity's opinion matches the general opinion of the internet. It's not bias, it's truth.

>>61306824
>>61306868
It's WTF how they manage to have the highest overall level peak always in the treble area.

>>61306884
Satania a cute. A cute!!

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>>61306893
>not posting the original poll
>Sennshills have to go this far to try and show off

Sad! Many such cases also seen on /r/headphones and Head-Fi!

Guys I'm having trouble deciding between a Sennheiser HD 598 SR and an Audio Technica ATH-AD700X. From what I've read they're both pretty good (assuming the AD700X is the same as the AD700 except the color), and I'm having trouble deciding.
Does anyone have any feedback on the AD700X?
Which one should I get if both are around the same price?

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>>61306944

>>61306932
Real fucking mature.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10478477/r

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>>61306960
?

>>61306954
lmao snappmonkeys btfo once again

>>61306603
Yeah I figured there wouldn't be a whole lot since after about $100-$150 you get into "audiophile" stuff. Thanks, though.

>>61306703
I'll give them a look, thanks, anon.

>>61306944
>AD700X
Absolutely zero bass.

>>61306980
>hifiman
>no grados

shit poll

>>61306993
>Absolutely zero bass.

At least it's preparing anon for a future """upgrade""" to the no bass HD 600

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>>61306364
Hola.

>>61306999
Further down the results.

>>61306932
>>61306960
Yesterday's thread was so much better without the autistic anti-Sennheiser troll shitting all over it like this.

>>61307020
Why not rename this thread Sennhesier General if all you do is to shit all over anything that isn't the HD 600?

>>61307007
>$1k DT 880 treble ear rape cannons

>>61306944
HD598 SR have a slightly warm sound and ATH-AD700X have a slightly cold sound. You may find the AD700X to be lacking in bass and you may find the HD598 SR to have a bit too much midbass. It's up to you whether you want to err on the side of too much midbass or not enough bass in general; whether you'd prefer a warm or cold sound. They're apples and oranges.
This board is honestly the worst place on the internet to ask for advice involving Sennheiser in any way because of our resident shitposter.

>>61306993
From what I've read the bass is pretty weak but accurate. Since I'm not a fan of boom-boom I thought it wasn't a problem (on the contrary even). Is the bass so weak that it is a major problem?

>>61307074
>This board is honestly the worst place on the internet to ask for advice involving Sennheiser in any way because of our resident shitposter.

>>61307062
Wow, it's like I'm in /hpg/ 4 years ago.

>>61307105
You can't deny that the HD 800 has the same shitty treble problems as the DT 880

>>61307098
You're not funny.

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>>61307142
>4chan is serious business!

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>>61307080
>From what I've read the bass is pretty weak but accurate.
It has a substantial bass rolloff starting at 200 Hz according to this measurement. ~-6 dB at 40 Hz isn't accurate, it's bass-light. Again, it's up to you whether to err on the side of not enough bass or too much midbass. I wouldn't describe the HD598 SR as "boom boom" either; far from it. It has a small midbass boost intended to keep the bass and sub-bass from falling off a cliff like it does on most of Audio Technica's open headphones. There's an inherent compromise with open dynamics: either you boost the midbass or you accept sub-par lower bass performance.

>>61307074
Thanks

>>61307132
This. They both have way, way too much treble.

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>>61307183
If anyone is interested in finding out what the HD 800 or DT 880 sounds like, just use these eq settings.

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>>61307168
>>61307080
For comparison, HD598 shows a small 2.5 dB midbass boost here, and a 2.5 dB difference between 40 Hz and 200 Hz response, demonstrating much better low bass extension than the AD700X. It's up to you whether 2.5 dB of midbass is too much, "boom boom," etc.
I also must note that the 8-10 kHz response on >>61307168 appears problematic to me. I think a headphone has major problems when any part of its response is louder than the ~3 kHz ear canal resonance which is supposed to be there on the raw measurement. You may find that treble peak to be harsh and grating on the ears. You may also find the HD598 SR to have not enough treble. I'm not trying to steer you in either direction; just giving you what I perceive as the truth. It's your call, based on your own subjective preferences.

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Lol wtf so Sennheiser has no soundstage?

>>61307204
What's funny is that the HD600's supporters here routinely bash the hell out of the HD800 yet the Snapheiser troll calls them Sennshills, which is absurd.

>>61307168
>>61307074
Also, is the impedance of the HD 598 SR fine for a motherboard audio chip without an amp?
My current headphones are around 32 ohm, which is roughly the same as the AD700X, but it seems the HD 598 SR is around 60 ohm with a spike above 250 ohm around 100 Hz.

>>61307277
HD600/HD650 have narrow soundstage but that isn't necessarily a bad thing and is a matter of preference. Some people enjoy exaggeratedly wide AKG-style soundstage and some people hate it.
Also, contrary to popular belief, wide soundstages do not create greater positional accuracy in video games, with or without virtual surround. Virtual surround works just fine on zero-soundstage IEMs.
Soundstage is entirely a matter of personal preference and, for those of you who haven't heard headphones with both narrow and wide soundstages, I'd urge you to make no assumptions as to which you'd prefer when making buying decisions, and I'd urge you to audition headphones with wide and narrow soundstages before making buying decisions as well.

>>61307300
HD598 SR can be driven just fine with onboard sound. Impedance isn't the only factor in determining how difficult a headphone is to drive; sensitivity is also a factor.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Douk-Audio-Digital-to-Analog-Audio-Converter-DAC-Decoder-Optical-Coaxial-USB-/281794919414?hash=item419c493bf6:g:hRoAAOSwWnFV76Fa#rwid

Is it a good DAC?

>>61306739
>$199
>shipping to us: free
>shipping to my 3rd world country
>$15

Is this real life? This can't be true right?

>>61307354
Alright thanks for the feedback. Good day to you anon.

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>>61306364
meep

>>61307132
I have no problems with mine because a small notch filter takes care of the problem. These days I no longer use any equalization because the SDR mod is more than enough.

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>>61306364

Third for HD600 have no headstage.

>>61307524
Anyone that can reccomend a <$100 nice dac/amp for my Fidelo L1s? I am selling my Sennheiser HD600 and want to grab a dac/amp for my PC. Also any good desk mic's <$50 besides the Samson go mic?

>>61308152
>I am selling my Sennheiser HD600 and want to grab a dac/amp for my PC.
Have you tried your HD600 with a proper dac/amp?
Your question suggests not.
Anyway, with your budget, look into Fulla2 or DAC-X6.

>>61308152
>desk mics <$50 if you aren't doing any vocal recording for music, podcasts or streaming then probably Blue Snowball.

>>61308179
I used the HD600s with a Fulla

>>61308250
The fulla2 kinda falls short at the higher end of the volume knob. I'd expect fulla1 to be insufficient.
I suggest trying them with your new dac/amp before making rash decisions.

>>61308275
I'd rather just sell it to someone that will run it right and use that money to better my setup.

>>61308330
Prioritizing source over transducers is always a mistake.

>>61308330
Listen to:
>>61308364
And, honestly, if you're that scrapped for money, you should focus on saving some for a rainy day, not buying new gadgets.

>>61308152
>>61308330
>I want to sell my headphones that need an amp and buy an amp for my other headphones that don't need an amp
Logic fail. You should really rethink this.

>>61308275
If you're pushing your HD600 to that sort of volume level either you've got some retarded EQ preset or you're blowing out your ears. Seriously, even on quiet recordings 75% is more than enough.

>>61308555
In the years I've been on /hpg/ I've come to the conclusion that /g/entlemen have widely varying opinions on what is loud enough.

>>61308590
The universal loud enough is the threshold for hearing damage. Go any louder and you're just being a retard.

>>61308607
There's safe limits for listening duration at levels beyond the threshold for hearing damage. I personally enjoy 90+ dB listening for less than an hour at a time. Some people also simply don't give a fuck at all, and while this may be ill-advised, they still have a right to their preference.

What are the comfiest headphones?

>>61308704
beyerdynamics

>>61308704
HD800, MDR-MA900

>>61308653
As a moral human being, I cannot endorse or recommend self destructive practices. 90db is safe for around an hour or so. I'd say that 90db should be the maximum volume anyone should care about, ignoring stuff like quieter recordings.

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>>61308809

>>61308555
>Seriously, even on quiet recordings 75% is more than enough.
I do agree. And I use my HD600 with the magni2 at low gain, and seldom go past 10 o'clock. Except, on some videogames, on most anime, etc. I actually have to go past 12 o'clock, because of really low mastering volume.

>>61308841
Most people here wear headphones for hours on end.

What do you fags think of the Meze 99 Classics? They seem really well constructed with good sound, and I have a massive hardon for wood. If I want wood in the construction are there better choices?

>>61308704
HD800 is pretty much unbeatable in the comfort department. They don't even heat up in the summer months with prolonged use.

>>61308841
what if i listen to 115db for 31 seconds? do i go deaf?

>Budget
about 100€
>Location
Germany
>Source
directly to the PC or mobile
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very high. I basically use headphones 24/7
>Sound signature
neutral, but prefer bass
>Past headphones
Superlux HD681 (have these since 2013 or longer)

I am searching for some wireless headphones. I have the Audition aptX in mind but I'm not sure.

Guys should i upgrade my dt770 for HD 598? would i feel the difference?

>>61308977
About the same effect as listening to DT990 at normal levels.

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>>61306364

>>61308993
>would i feel the difference?
They're polar opposites. HD598 is a great compliment to DT770 since it's so different.

>>61309048
Well i'm new to having good headphones i bought the DT770 a year ago and been happily using them with every piece of tech i get, with the amazon deals today, The HD 598 looks amazing, what sort of differences would i expect to hear between them?

Are there any GOOD headphones that don't look like autistic faggot shit and can actually be worn outside (also they'd have to be able to sit comfortably on the neck or not take too much space in bag)

>>61309083
The HD598 have much more balanced sound. The DT770 exaggerates bass and treble response at the expense of the midrange; HD598 exaggerates neither the bass nor the treble. You'll also probably notice the HD598 being less resonant in the bass since they're open instead of closed.

>>61309103
And should i get a amp or dac with them?

>>61309083
I'd say go for HD600 if you can. I own both, and the HD598 is severely lacking next to HD600.
You've already got a headphone of that price tier, which is the DT770.

>>61309131
Unnecessary.

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>>61309085
Do these look autistic? Superlux HD681 evo WH

>>61309103
Thanks for the quick replies
>>61309137
That's kinda expensive at the moment
370 pounds

>>61309200
>370 pounds
Whoah. Check camelcamelcamel for history. I'm O_O.

>>61309160
I'd say so. Those arching arches can't really be anything else. But what I think really gives off the autistic vibe is the fatness of the earphone itself

>>61309305
but they're comfy as fuck tho

is the schiit raganarok a waste of my hard earned money?

i want to spend my fucking money, but dont want to look like to my audiopedophile friendos

>>61309346
Christ, don't throw your money away like that. :X
Maybe get a jotunheim and a bitfrost, if you really really need to.

>>61309211
Just checked, their price went up crazy!

>>61309374
Yeah. Set up alarms. I got mine a few months ago at something reasonable.
Typically the worst time (because everybody buys the stuff these months) is autumn. Summer should be ok. They're just messing around.

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>>61309346
you wont be happy until you buy a ragnarok and a yggdrasil dac

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How does /hpg/ rate the K812?

>>61309442
http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=4163&graphID%5B1%5D=4303&graphID%5B2%5D=573&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=30&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph
Seems slightly more bassy than k712, but also closer to HD600 in the treble, which is a good thing.
As for its price being what it normally is... hard to justify.

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>>61309442
Kinda niggerbassy upon first glance at FR. FR looks like a bad attempt at the Harman target.

>>61309525
>bad attempt at the Harman target.

Maybe they were aiming for the superior rtings target

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what's your excuse not using a sany mdr v6?

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>>61309525
Treble seems all over the place. Can't say I'd consider these worth the cost.

>>61309525
Quite melanin-enhanced, but at least the midrange isn't a rollercoaster, and the treble seems sane.

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>>61309557

>>61309574
Chihaya uses MDR CD900ST.

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>>61309557
>unironically suggests rtings target

>>61308943
For home use? TH-X00. Wooden cups on those look nice than on the 99 Classics. I think there's a video showing the manufacturing process of the TH-900 cups. Pretty neat watch senpai.
>>61309160
>Open back in public
>681 EVO
662 is better, senpai

>>61309346
I put up my DIY Dynalo against it in a small meet and most attendees agree that my creation is the better amp.

>>61309085
Beats Solo 3. I'm being completely serious.

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I've been using open headphones but the ambient noises bothers me, are these a good deal? $400 on massdrop.

should i get the chord mojo?
or just get a schiit combo for cheaper?

>>61307621
Literally my setup.

>>61309933
>fancy dacs
For the fanciest, modibit.
Just keep in mind that in theory (measurements), no difference should be hearable.

Template:

>Budget
sub-$100 preferably, possibly a bit higher but not too much

>Location
Canada

>Source
Anywhere online with reasonable shipping, preferably Amazon I guess.

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Would prefer closed but I don't really care either way.

>Comfort level
Sound quality doesn't matter too much, I'm pretty much only using it for games and calls.

>Past headphones
Storm Sirius, HyperX Cloud 2, AKG K 240

I'm mainly looking for something durable since I'm in a line a work where my headphones might get dropped about 2-3 feet semi-frequently. All my headphones have lost audio 1 ear at a time and I had to always adjust the wire to be able to hear anything.

>>61309961
>Storm Sirius, HyperX Cloud 2, AKG K 240
So many.
>$100
And yet such low budget. Why insist on buying crap headphones?
Still, with $100 you can get HD558.

>>61309863
Those aren't fully closed, meaning they won't isolate that well. They're also niggerbass so if you like that maybe.

>>61309863
they aren't a good deal, I have them, I like their sound the best but they still aren't better than anything else I have, they also aren't like closed headphones that completely seal out noise they probably seal less noise than my DT-880, it's a luxury item period

Im gonna renew my question because I didn't get an answer last time

There is a pair of heavily discounted Sennheiser Urbanite XL wireless headphones in my local PC store for 125£ (current amazon price is 170 and it is the lowest it has ever been).

Do any of you have any experience with them?
Are they worth it? Or am I better waiting for HD600 to be discounted at some stage in the future?

>>61310131
>random urbanites
>hd600
HD600.

yes, but i am stuck without any earphones atm and hd600's are 320£ atm and waiting for them to drop below 200 again might take a while

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>>61310131
>wireless

>>61310283
Grab a HD6XX. They're less ugly (albeit still ugly) and they can easily be EQ'd into a HD600.

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the hinges on my ath-m50x are falling off so need a new pair of cans

thinking of going for the beyerdynamic dt770s, is there a better alternative at that price range?

Any cheap usb dac recommendations? Using on board motherboard sound is trash

>>61310768
What's cheap? I got a schiit magni/modi stack for $200. They also make a combined one for $100 but I've never tried it.

hello friends
i was looking to buy a pair of hd599 for 189€ ($215) but they've just put in sale the hd598sr for 115€ ($130). i've read that the only different thing between the sr and the non sr version is that it inclues a wired mic or something, and the colour, but the headphone is the same, should i pull the trigger?

>>61310530
>ugly
Debatable. I prefer HD600 look by far, to the boring, cheap-looking grey of the HD650.

>>61310283
See if amazon.es ships to you, and the prices there.

>>61310856
6XX not 650.

got a pair of MDR-7506, thinking about upgrading.
Are Phillips x2 fidelo any good? or should I maybe go for Sennheiser 598sr or 598cs?

>>61310796
598 is way better than 599.

>>61310768
hifimediy

>>61310924
Debatable. Reviewers vastly prefer the HD599.

>>61310768
DAC-X6 or Fulla 2.

Hi guys, I'm making the move from the sennheiser hd449 to hd471, and the question is, did I trade up, down or to basically the same product? I couldn't find much comparisons since the hd499 is discontinued/old (been using mine since 2012)

>>61310974
>(((Reviewers)))

What's the cheapest but still usable desktop mic so I can communicate in gaymes

Would rather not modmic

>>61309085
Status CB-1
>>61310539
Custom Studios are pimped out DT770 80 Ohms
>>61311177
SF-920

>>61311068
>hd471
Couldn't find FR measurements.
I wouldn't touch with a 15m pole.

Looking for suggestions for an amp for the Sennheiser HD6XX
>250-$300
>Canada
>Receiver and record player
>Whatever provides the best detail. Prefer balanced I suppose

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Melanin-enhanced.

>>61310974
They're more accurate. I cannot recommend HD559, 579 and 599 because they are V-shaped.

>>61311319
They're not that much v-shaped.
Just... look into the "neutral" m40x. It's a completely different kinda shape.
It's true they have a little more bass and slightly more treble, but it's a minor difference.

>>61311305
Boost it by 50 dB so you don't have to listen to that awful music anymore and instead ride the waves

>>61311319
If you know an alternative to graphs.headphones.com that can overlay FR for different devices... or some site that allows for downloading actual datasets, please let me know.
I've wanted to overlay HD599, 579 with others for a while.

>>61311342
>Shitting on other people's music tastes.
Very bad, Anon. Oshiri pen-pen.
>Niggerbass
Not really good. It allows up to +24dB. I haven't heard beats, but I imagine that's what they sound like. The idols voices get so quiet, it's all bass bass bass.
I'm thinking removing bass would actually make it better.
BTW, for whatever reason, I took the fulla2 and HD380 home, and I'm using these right now, as neighbour noise is being annoying.

Hey guys, I've decided I want to try out headphones after being an in-ear guy for a long time, and I don't know where to start. Here are my critera:
I will be using it for watching videos/movies/playing games like CS and Overwatch.
I'd like a decently long cord so it can wrap around the back of my desk
I'd like it to be noise isolating because people live above me
I'd like it to be less than $200CDN
Anybody feeling like throwing some suggestions my way?

>>61311409
>200CDN
Your budget sucks, but there's https://www.amazon.ca/Sennheiser-HD-558-Headphones/dp/B004FEEY9A/

>>61311355
There's a bit in the >/r/headphones discord which does it.

>>61311355
Download WebPlotDigitizer, export results as JSON, convert from JSON to CSV, use Excel/LibreOffice Calc to remove all columns and rows except frequency and magnitude data, save as CSV, import into Room EQ Wizard.

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>>61310909
This should clear things up for you.

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>>61311342
Much better. Fuck niggerbass.

>>61311480
Now Equalizer APO is disabled too get fucked kek

>>61311496
Not using that.
I generally use my HD600, which definitely do not need EQ.

>>61311501
Yes they do, unless your HRTF is exactly the same as a dummy heads'. Dummy.

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>>61311535
>rtings
Says that HD600 is pretty consistent between heads. I don't quite like their FR target, but they do some interesting measurements.
>youtube suggestions
Do say a lot. Scary.

>>61311429
Thanks for the recommendation.

Yeah it's just my experience in this area that after a certain point there's a huge drop off in ROI. These are my first real headphones I'm not gonna get the $400+ ones.

>>61311555
Have you actually tried sinegen? I noticed a 12db very high q null at 11k and a very high q 6db peak at 10k.

>>61311501
N O B A S S
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S
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>>61311587
Doing a sweep would be quite useless on my ears.
I don't even have a mic, much less a proper setup for doing FR measurements :X

>>61311468
even if I get the X2's for the same price I would get a pair of 7605's in my country?

>>61311468
are the X2's really not worth it, even if they are almost the same price as 7506's are in my country?

>>61311604
t.Jermarqwon

Are good headphones on a PC a waste if you don't have a good soundcard or do most modern mobos do a decent enough job?

>>61306327
Should I stick with MP3 or stop caring about having all of my files in the same one format? I'm finding a lot of songs in FLAC now.

>>61311639
>>61311606
im legit braindead

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>>61311604
>literally no bass
HD600's bass is higher than it should be for neutral. The likes of Marionetteは眠らない, Virgin Load, 迷走Mind and such sound pleasantly bassy without EQ already.
And, unlike the HD380 (which I'm playing with atm), it actually responds well to EQ-ing some niggerbass in.

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PSYCHIC FIRE minna minna to~

nico nico ni~

>>61311654
>mp3
Is the past, legacy, inefficient as fuck for a lossy codec. There's no reason to try and save space anymore. FLAC all the way.

>Budget
~100
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop/Laptop
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Something I can wear comfortably for up to 8 hours
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
NVX XPT100 - Very comfy, but finally broke after 4 years.

I've been considering the MDR-V6, what are my other options?

>>61311740
>There's no reason to try and save space anymore.
Phones/PMPs. Opus is transparent as fuck at 192 kbps and probably below.

>>61311753
Status CB-1

>>61311756
And streaming. OPUS is indeed absurdly good.
But a collection should be as FLAC as possible these days. Convert to flac only for portable devices without much storage, and for streaming, ideally on the fly transcoding.

>>61311756
384GBs of FLAC ain't enough for ya?

>Budget
$80, not hard limit
>Location
USA
>Source
smartphone
>Type of headphone
SUPRA-AURAL / ON EAR, because IEMs are too much fuss and maintenance and circumaural and glasses is a bad combo
>Open or closed
not important
>Comfort level
not too anal about this, just something average is good enough
>Sound signature
nonfatiguing, the flatter the better
>Past headphones
PortaPro, KSC75, RX700, T40RP modded, K44, M40X, 8323, Piston 3, HJE120, AD1000X

>>61311969
That's not a terribly large collection.

>>61311984
HD558 or SHP9500

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>>61312071
>circumaural

>>61311984
>circumaural and glasses is a bad combo
Not worse than on-ear, which cause a headache in minutes, if not seconds.
>HD598, HD600, HD380 Pro, all fine with glasses.

>>61312093
My reading comprehension momentarily failed me.

>>61311984
>circumaural and glasses is a bad combo
I have glasses and I GREATLY prefer over ear to on ear

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>>61312094
>>61312123
Let's say I have a head abnormality that means on-ear is an only option.
>>61312121
It happens.

I'm looking to get a solid, noise isolating closed-back for under $200. I'm not an audiophile and I'll only be using them on the PC for youtubes and gaming -- I keep seeing the Sennheiser HD 598Cs pop up in my researchings. What do you goys tink?

>>61312144
But, have you actually tried decent OPEN over ear headphones? Say, HD600 or at least HD558, 598, 599, 579.

>>61312061
For mobile use though. Not enough for you?

>>61312150
They're not good. I'd suggest DT250 80 ohm.

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>>61312165
>decent
>HD 600

>>61312150
>Sennheiser HD 598Cs
Stay the fuck away. Look into Sennheiser HD380 Pro, which use the same drivers, but somehow manage a FR that isn't absolute garbage.

>>61312180
I'd prefer to load my whole collection onto phone/PMP once and forget it except when adding new additions rather than have to delete/add as I go along. I can do that with Opus and it's not like I can hear a difference between Opus and FLAC.
Normal people also like to keep pictures and videos on their phones.

>>61310043
I have Q701 and I love how they sound, so I guess I wouldn't like niggrabass.

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>>61312186
Idol Trash here. I'll tell you: HD600 are Seriously Fucking Decent open over-ear headphones.

>>61312203
Normal people don't need their entire collection. Or, for that matter, 35 days of music. So let's not go there. You're saying 35 days worth of music is not enough for you.

>>61312165
I have tried the HD558, thought it sounded good, nice accurate imaging. T40RP modded I had, sounded good as if it was open. AD1000X I have, sounds good, intimate. I should have added that portability is important to me (I would have just continued to use my HJE120 which sounds very good for the price).

>>61312296
>portability
To use outside, or just carry semidaily?

>>61312311
Outside or inside. Something that's easy to put away and doesn't slip away from my ears with moderate physical activity.

>>61312243
The quantity isn't the issue so much as the variety.

About how much would I have to pay to get a quality pair of earbuds that double as ear plugs?

My current ear buds work okay for when I'm using my .22 revolver, but it would be nice if I could use a rifle while listening to music without deafening myself

>>61312368
Etymotic MK5

>>61312357
An intelligent person would be able to manage their library properly, but I guess I can't expect everyone to come equipped with as powerful a brain as mine.

>>61312377
Bit pricey, but far from unaffordable. I'll have to come back once I've finished paying off my new computer

Thanks!

Does the HD800 snap?

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>>61307007

Excellent taste.

>>61312425
No, the only headphones that snap are the ones handled by people who can't take care of their things properly.

>>61312453
>$1.5k DT 880 treble ear rape cannons

>>61312482
Literally, they're vandalism-snapped by envious people who can't afford them.

>>61312380
You must be seriously autistic to not see how having your entire collection on your phone/PMP is more convenient than not.

>>61312741
Eh, I'd be curious to see the time difference between the time needed to convert opus and the time needed to properly manage a library (for a person of superior intellect like myself, of course). I'd think the convenience simply isn't worth a damn.

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What am I in for?

>>61312767
RIP

>>61311304
i'm getting the HD6XX from Canada as well and I just got the chinkfi Topping D30/A30 stack while it was on Massdrop.

In truth, the E10K I have will be enough but eh I want to know if there really is a difference (probably not) going up and future-proofing with an amp. I don't expect to get spend beyond $200 on a DAC/amp because it's probably just snake oil bullshit or weird sound signatures from amps that people like for some reason.

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Alright cool cats, here's what I've narrowed myself down to - which would you pick? (for use on the computer, gaming and youtube, no amp):

HD598Cs
HD380 Pro
ATH-M50x
ATH-M40x
SHP9500
HyperX Cloud II

>>61313170
SHP9500
Rest are closed dude, why.

>>61313237

I want isolation, so I want closed right?

>>61313261
Well you confused me. If you want isolation should've just taken the SHP off of your list in the first place.

Anyways, M40x if you can afford new pads, otherwise also look into the Status Audio CB-1.

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>>61313170
>HD598Cs
No. Absolute garbage FR, universally hated, leeches on the good name of the HD598/se/sr.
>HD380 Pro
This could be OK. Higher bass but otherwise neutral and good sounding, comfortable, good isolation (32dB), durable, detachable cable.
>ATH-M50x
It's definitely worse than M40x and way more expensive. Avoid.
>ATH-M40x
No. Colored as fuck garbage for the riff-raff. Cable isn't even detachable.
>SHP9500
This one isn't like the others. This one is open, whereas the others are all closed. WTF?
>HyperX Cloud II
No. Gamer headset. Enough said.

TL;DR: Fill the recommendation form.

>>61313289
>M40X worse than the M50X
Stop trolling the guy and give him some legit advice, faggot.

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I am now about to pay $320 for a HD 26.

>>61313306
But it is. M40x is the more neutral of the two. It also costs considerably less. The M50x used to be a popular option at its price. The price skyrocketed ever since, making it not competitive. They're still leeching on that undeserved popularity among the audio illiterate.

>>61313282
Thanks for catching that and thanks for the suggestion.

>>61313330
To continue from >>61313289
I'd suggest, like >>61313282, either Status CB-1 or the HD380 Pro (which I own and love).
I'd vote against M40x. Its frequency response is way too v-shaped general public oriented trash.

>>61313170
>computer use
>gaming
>ever considering closed headphones

No, just get the SHP9500 and pair it with a vmoda boompro.

>>61313327
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/graph#296/323/295

Doesn't look that way to me.

>>61313261
>I want isolation

Why? Do you share your room with someone else? Sound leakage is only an issue when people are right next to you.

>>61313363
The HD380 FR looks awfully similar to the M50s... A bit more bass and a bit less upper treble.
http://en.goldenears.net/13496
http://en.goldenears.net/10034

>>61313383
>doesn't look that way
Bass is higher than the fucking midrange, and there's some treble rape going on. V-shaped AF. See against some generally agreed to be relatively neutral headphones:
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/graph#296/323/325

>>61313453
>bass just gives up below 100 Hz
every time lmao

>>61313383

I want closed because people live above me and ambient noise pisses me off.

>>61313481
So, in short, open.

How do you guys feel about shit like this for someone who hates outside noise: https://www.amazon.ca/Percussion-KTUI26-Ultra-Isolation-Headphones/dp/B00FONJ6AI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499739766&sr=8-1&keywords=Ultra+Isolation+Headphones

>>61313481
You've definitely never had a semi-decent over-ear open headphone if you're spewing that nonsense about ambient noise.

>>61313513
I haven't, you are correct.

What are you referring to exactly?

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>>61313481
It's not like open headphones have 0 isolation. You should really consider the shp9500.

>>61313535

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? I SAID I WANT CLOSED BECAUSE I WANT ISOLATION.

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>>61313531
What >>61313535 told you.
Use closed if you
- have people within 2 meters
- have people in the same room and like to listen at unhealthy loud volumes
- are surrounded of loud people
- or pneumatic hammers

Otherwise, go open. It gives you some isolation regardless of open. If music is playing at a healthy volume, you won't hear most noise around you.

Idol Trash going to bed. Good night all.

How to automatically equalize your headphones to online measurements - a step by step guide:
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/
tl;dr: WebPlotDigitizer can extract data from online frequency response graphs which you can convert into a format Room EQ Wizard can read for the purposes of auto-generating EQ filters for Equalizer APO. Have fun, /hpg/.

>>61313585

I realize if I'm playing shit I won't hear anything - I'm talking about when I'm not playing anything.

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>>61313601
idol trash last note; might look into that tomorrow.
>>61313653
Play something, then. Or get some nice hearing protection earmuffs.

>>61311969
The fuck kind of phone has 385GBs of space to spare on music?

>>61313653
So, you plan to wear your closed headphones all day, just so you don't hear the people above you? Just buy some earplugs for like $2.

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>>61309018
Nice waifu anon

>>61306364
Ordered a pair of HD6XX. Can't wait to receive them in a year.
I may have made a mistake getting the Schiit Fulla 2 though. It might not be powerful enough to drive the HD6XX, but I will deal with that when the time comes.

>>61313680
128GB phone + 256GB SD. There are a couple out there. Also, the Fiio x5 can hold up to 512GB with 2 SD cards. (actual usable space will obviously be slightly less)

>>61313401
not him but I need isolation even if I'm at home because my fans (it's summer) are quite audible, and I don't want to have to turn up my volume higher just because of that.

turning my fans is not an option either, can't blast the a/c on that much

>>61313792

According to him you should just be wearing earplugs whenever you're not playing music.

>>61313792
PC fans? Ceiling fan? AC? I don't have any problem with those but to each their own.

>>61313845
>I realize if I'm playing shit I won't hear anything - I'm talking about when I'm not playing anything.

Yeah, you're right he should just move out.

>>61312311
>>61312352 (me)

BeyerDynamic DT1350 Limited Gold Edition
Get $25 promotional gift card w/ purchase

yea or nay?

>>61314018
$124.99
Sale Ends in 6 Days (Sat)

>>61314018
Bought the DT1350 like probably three years ago by now. Those things are sturdy and should last long unless you actually throw them against a wall or something. The split headband is fucking great, but they clamp on your ears. That's fine for an hour or two, but longer than that and I need to take them off for a couple minutes to relax my ears.
Soundwise I'm happy with them, but it depends what you're looking for. For that price (which is basically half of what I bought them for) you probably won't find an all-around better pair.

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>>61314018
>BeyerDynamic DT1350
What the fuck is that ~200 Hz dip? Looks like this will be an uncomfortable, difficult to seal headphone with boosted bass and a very uneven bass/lower midrange response.

>>61314082
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT1350.pdf
Raw graph confirms my suspicions of being difficult to seal. ~200 Hz dip isn't quite as severe here.

>>61314082
Pretty sure that's a fuck up on GE's side, or a faulty model. There's by no means an almost 10 dB dip in the 200 Hz area. Bass is fairly equal and goes real deep, the advantage of closed cans I guess.

>>61314108
Yeah, just wanted to link that one. They're on-ear, so yes, having a good fit is important. But thanks to the adjustable and split headband, it's actually easy to get it and after a few times you put them on, you'll get it automatically.

>>61313969
>PC fans? Ceiling fan? AC? I don't have any problem with those but to each their own.
yes. PC fans, AC, air purifier, .etc. They're not loud but it means I have to turn up my volume up a bit higher if I want my music to completely block the ambient noise out, as opposed to just isolating it. I also have mild tinnitus that I don't even know how I got, I've always been careful with keeping volumes down (except maybe when playing on a piano?)

>>61314125
>Pretty sure that's a fuck up on GE's side, or a faulty model.
I wouldn't assume either. See:
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/technologically-impressive-lcd-4-planar-magnetic-headphone-manufacturers-comments
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/head-fi-contradicts-innerfidelity-sony-mdr-z1r-measurements
tl;dr: It's not uncommon for measurements by different people/equipment to differ drastically and there's a lot of potential reasons for this. It's complicated.

would anyone recommend the MDR 1000X?

I read tons of amazing things about it but im paranoid now cuz i hear a lot of people also have cracking and breaking in the headband

>>61314137
Damn, those are some huge differences in the high frequencies.
So, what is there to take from this? When comparing headphones, always only from one source? When looking at one pair of headphones only, try to get as many measurements as possible to identify a potential outlier and try to average all the results?

>>61314225
Try to find as many measurements as possible for each headphone and draw your own conclusions based on logic while trying not to make dangerous assumptions.

>>61314209
Mine cracked 3 days before the amazon return window. Cut it way to close there. People with small heads probably need not worry, how big is your head?

>>61314298
that's pretty sad to hear. those seem really fucking good. could you recommend an alternative as similar as possible? (minus the flaws of course)

wireless, over ear, noise cancelling, built in mic, etc

Need a recommendation for a commuting headphone.

>Budget
$250 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
iPod Classic
>Type of headphone
Over/on ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is important, as I would be wearing these both on the commute and at work.
>Sound signature
Neutral or warm
>Past headphones
HD 518 are my current at home headphones.

>>61314624
HD 25

>>61314624
HD 25 or DT1350 are the best you can get from the on-ear category.

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HD 380 vs. HD 598cs vs. Status CB-1 vs. ATH-M50x vs. ATH-M40

Go.

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>>61314822
>That abdomen

Why hello there...

>>61314080
I did it. Thanks for the info.
>>61314108
>>61314125
Right, I just remembered not too long after they released that model they updated it with thicker pads for better comfort and seal.
>>61314624
Heads up >>61314018 >>61314026

>>61314822
CB-1 for comfy neutral or 380 Pro for isolation. The other options are out the window.

>>61314918

Why is they out the window champ?

>>61314884
The IF measurement is a year and a half older than the GE measurement, so if the new pads are responsible for the difference in frequency response between those two measurements then the GE measurement with the giant bass dip is more representative of the current product.

>>61314633
>>61314645
Thanks for the recs.

>>61314884
Where are you seeing that sale on the DT1350?

>>61314936
I don't see how that necessarily means the GE model wasn't the older version.

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>>61314929
Pic is 598C FR, M50X isn't good for the price though are $120 right now with a bluetooth speaker you can sell and get new pads which isn't a bad idea, M40X needs new pads though aren't too bad for their price yet still has the soundstage issue the M50X has.

>>61314936
>if the new pads are responsible for the difference in frequency response between those two measurements
>if
It seems implausible that GE measured the older version and IF measured the newer version when IF's measurement was 1.5 years older. I guess we can't assume 100%, but it seems implausible.

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>Budget
Between $15 and $100 (120 at the most )

Preferably between $20 and $50

>Location
US

>Source
Dell Inspiron 1705 (WinVista), HP Notebook 15-ay041wm (Win10), Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 7.0

>Type of headphone
Over/on ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
High. I'm going to use these everywhere I go, mostly to listen to music while doing college assignments.

>Sound signature
Neutral or warm

>Past headphones
Skull Candy Uproar and pic related.

Also I know that they probably won't be durable, unless I buy the 100+ headphones. I want a pair that can at least take some beating. I sat on my Yamaha headphones by accident and broke the slides and they still sorta work.

But the sound's going in and out which is why I want to get another set.

>>61315023
newegg.com, but... I don't see the item in newegg.ca

I don't know about newegg.com shipping to Canada. I know free shipping is an option for the item in the US. If that doesn't help then sorry for the false hope.

>>61315064
KSC75
PortaPro
662 EVO
Somic MM185/Status CB-1
XPT100
HM5
Custom Street
Superlux HD 562 with HD25 pads or velours

>>61315131
Thanks for checking that out. Looks like amazon.com has them for a similar price and I know they ship to Canada. And for $20 cheaper than it would be from .ca!

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My GF's on-ear headphones just broke and she wants new ones. She says that in-ears hurt her ears and she primarily wears them for running and at work (airport). Budget is very flexible, she's loaded.

>>61315282
>similar price
After the "$25 promotional gift card"? It seems ebay has it for less.

>>61315336
We're just going all out with the on ears today, aren't we?
Beyer's DT1350 or Senn's HD25. Pick your poison, both are great.

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>>61315336
Maybe you should get two DT1350 gold versions on sale for both of you if newegg.com is an option.

>tfw no gf to have the same headphones you have

Would an HD6XX be a substantial upgrade from a Philips SHP9500?

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>>61315350
>>61315492
Thanks guys!

Thinking of getting Modi2/Magni2 combo with HD600s, anyone with this setup can share their experience?

>>61307062
>>61312596

>forcing a dead meme

I want to graduate past using a headset and get a pair of headphones that block out the barking dogs next door.

Would I need an audio interface? If I want to block society away do I get closed headphones? I'm also looking at a budget of 150$ or so

>>61316121
380 Pro, you won't need an interface unless you're using an XLR mic or one that uses quite a bit of power that isn't enough from onboard.

T40RP Mk3 or T50RP Mk3?

>>61316340
I don't know if this applies to Mk3 but I got the less expensive T40RP Mk2 on the assumption that the little cup vent felt was the only difference from the T50RP Mk2. I opened it up and noticed the back of the drivers had more dried glue seeping over the paper vent and each had a dot mark that was a different color than in photos of the T50RP Mk2 drivers on the internet. I guess you pay more for better quality control pretty much but to be honest I didn't think the gluing made much of a sonic difference when I experimented with the backwave modding. That was around 2010-2011.

What are the best closed back phone for under $150?

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What does anyone think of pic related? I saw this while looking up the Superlux HD562. I read a review saying that these were better. Do you think they're better or worse?

>>61316564
You're comparing apples to oranges. I have both. What do you want to know?

>my local SuSy Dynalo MKii builder has gone silent
>just need an amp with 0 ohm output impedance and better measurement
EL amp, iFi micro iCAN SE, or just a Jotunheim?

Got a pair of HD598 (Burl Wood) that's like four years old and falling apart buildwise (headband, earpads)
Should I buy a pair of HD598SR for like $100 my currency? Seems like a really good deal even if I have to pay for a month of prime on top of it.
Just not sure what the HD598SR has different/if it sounds different.
I mean, I could save the $100-$130~ and put it towards a new pair of headphones but I'm still probably looking at $40~ to replace the earpads on my current HD598

>>61308841
Too bad I can't measure headphones volume. No idea if i'm hearing music at safe volumes

>>61309576
Jesus, that literally looks like a defective headphone

Why is this high fi and costs multiple hundreds again?

>>61311659
The mid bass is fine but the sub bass is very lacking. It's defeintely not neutral in that department and imo needs a small boost low shelf boost under 50/40Hz

>>61309442
Heard this in one audio show a few years ago. She was directly connected to a Mytek Manhattan and she sounded nothing special.

DT990 Pro 250 for $128.
Worth it?

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I own something called a Roland Quad Capture. It's a USB sound interface for XLR mics and so on.
I plug my cans straight into it nad I have a pair of closed backs for voice work, and that's dandy.

However I'd like a pair of good open backs for tv, movies and vidya.

The problem here is that this Roland UA-55 box has quite a high output impedance, and that if I need to find a pair of cans with 5 - 10 times as high impedance, I may not be able to drive them.

Any quick ideas?

>>61314822
>HD380
Good sound (neutral, although with way more bass), comfortable, durable, detachable cable, high isolation.
>HD598cs
Absolute garbage sound and isolation, stay away.
>Status CB1
Good sound, excellent value/cost.
>ath-M50x
Colored overpriced shit.
>ath-M40x
Uncomfortable, too expensive for what it is, no detachable cable despite cost.

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Hello i got a problem related to noise from speakers plugged into my computer... Do anyone mind if i post it here?

>>61311304
>>61312986
So I should just get an Objective2 amp basically? Will I be ok to plug that into my receiver or should I grab a DAC too? (reminder that my source will be a record player)

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>>61317720
I'll just assume that it's fine then.

I recently built a new computer and had some rokit 6 speakers laying around. I plugged them directly into my computer with sine xlr plugs. The issue is that they are making noise whenever i move my mouse around, and sometimes they make a lot of nice after a video or a song is done. It's really annoying and i'd rather not use them if i can't solve this issue. Any ideas ?

>>61317834
Buy an external dac like the E10K or Fulla 2

>>61317532
Yes, it's better than the HD 600

>>61316597
I changed my mind and I'm buying the HD562 instead.

I was asking if theere were any difference between them.

>>61317944 >>61317532
Lol, no. There's exactly one website that thinks so.
>rtings

>>61317959
Zeos likes them as well.

>>61317985
He's immune to treble rape

>>61317801
>O2
Not balanced. Expensive for what it is. Stupid options that add extra cost, like the thick headphone jack or the
>jotunheim
Balanced. But you do not really need balanced. It's a meme. It also costs way more than you should be willing to pay.
>what then?
Fulla2 will be way more than enough unless you want very unhealthy loud. You can get a magni2 anytime LATER (emphasis) and chain it to the fulla2 dac if that's the case.
>alternatives
DAC-X6
>>61317985
>zeos
Likes everything. Doesn't actually say he likes them in the specific context of preference over HD600.

>>61317988
/hpg/ is the only place that complains about muh treble

>>61318009
Aynone with decent earing will complain about +8dB treble peaks unless you don't listen to anything with treble

>>61318009
>There are a number of strategies that can be used to reduce the change of noise injury from other instrumentalists. Musicians ear plugs are generally “flat” so that bass and treble notes are not relatively favored, thus distorting perception. Nevertheless, a “vented” ear plug can be used to tune the ear cavity to low frequencies, which are less damaging. Drummers should use musicians ear plugs, such as the ER-25. Guitarists and vocalists can use the less attenuating ER-15. Too much ear protection can result in overplaying and not enough protection can result in hearing loss.
Treble rape is bad for you.
>http://american-hearing.org/disorders/noise-induced-hearing-loss/
References @ bottom.

Philips X2 for £130 on Amazon UK

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-X2-Headphones-Over-Ear-Cushions/dp/B00MRUPSHQ

Worth it?

>>61318051
RRP: £269.99
Price: £245.36 FREE UK delivery.
You Save: £24.63 (9%)
...
Do you mean used?

Seriously, how much do you guys get paid by Sennheiser?

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>>61318051
Or do I go with the HD 598 SR for £80?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-598SR-Over-Ear-Headphone/dp/B06WLGRYSF

>tfw I bought a pair of DT 880 + Fulla 2 a month ago

>>61318067
Certainly less than what Beyers pay

The SR stands for Super Rare, right?

>>61317895
Alright.. Thanks.

>>61317834
>>61317895
Is that the best that i can get? What if i want to spend 2-300 $ ?
I kinda feel like i don't want to buy something cheap when i can get something better.

>>61318113
DACs make no difference. You could buy a 2000€ dac that sounds exactly the same as a miserable schitt fulla 1

>>61318119
>he's too poor to afford a multibit DAC