/hpg/ - Headphone General

ATH M40 best fone

Anybody hace experience using the headphone out on a power amp? Is it a terrible idea? Thinking of either getting a schiit jotunheim+bifrost ($800), but the Marantz hm7005 ($900) has a phono stage, banana outs with 80 watts into 4 ohms, plus a dac and headphone out.
Point it, will the hm7005 still sound good with headphones? Planning on buying th900s, dt1990s or lcd-x eventually.

>>61134147
The headphone outs on stereo receivers generally are afterthoughts. Might not be shit but don't expect it to be as good as an amp which was designed for headphones in the first place.

HD600.

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>>61134147
You should look into the emotiva basx a-100, it's just an amp but it includes jumpers so you can mod it into throwing the full 50watts to the headphones, it will drive anything very cleanly

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Best microphone under $50 for general voicechat/videogame usage?

Should I buy the hifiman X v2 or is there anything better in that price range?

>>61134342

ZM-Mic 1 is super good

>>61134364
I'd suggest looking into stax instead. I could post internal pics of the HE-1000 which would shock you in how shoddy the materials/construction are. So just imagine how shoddy the lower tier hifiman is.

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I know this is kinda gay but does anyone here use covers? I feel like I'm destroying my HD600 with my own filth.

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>>61134505
you are damaging your last man hood by doing it. honestly you only destory by your own filth if
1. dont take showers at all or rarely ever
2. you sweat so much in your ears
3. your on it 24/7 never bothered to clean it a few times with a wipe.

>>61134885
Yeah but mice and controllers naturally collect these things over time regardless of how many showers you take. Headphones can be pretty expensive and their pad replacements are a rip off.

>>61134342
RadioShack USB desk mic will work just as well as any <$50 usb desk mic you can find.

>>61134941
I thought RadioShack went bankrupt.

So my legendary SHE3590 finally broke after [spoiler]3 1/2 years.[/spoiler] It was the third one but it lasted way longer than the others which died in barely a year.

Did some checking in the archives and apparently a few years back they started sounding like shit. Any good replacement for this?

Usually use it on my phone. Huge bonus points if someone can recommend something good that has either playback/volume/mic.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>trading in a bunch of old shit I don't use anymore to Amazon
>waiting a week for ground shipping to get to the destination

Hnngg, I want to get the HD600 already. I'm already tired of using my old shitty gaming headset on onboard audio.

>>61135283
>old shitty gaming headset on onboard audio -> HD600
You're in for a shock. You'll regret all these years spent using a shitty audio chain.

>>61134993
Don't know about that, but you can still get the mic from eBay or Amazon

Philips SHP9500S are on sale at Newegg. How do they compare to the HD600?

Are the HD6xx worth it if I've been saving up for HD600? From what I've heard their sound signature is different, less neutral, which I normally wouldn't want, but at their current price they're like 50% off what you'd normally pay for them (at least in Bongistan).

>>61135772
Much less bass, much more treble

stupid fucking weebs

what are the best isolating phones money can buy

>>61135875
HD600 is very flat. Great for analytical purposes

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>>61134258

>>61136264
I'm mostly going to be using it for games, looking for immersion. When listening to music I'd also want something neutral. I'm not looking for headphones that have any sort of special sound signature, or have a particularly pronounced bass, or anything like that.

>>61136257


please respond

>>61136257
I've heard the audeze el-8 titanium closed are pretty good

>>61135772
Poorly.

>>61135875
Go HD600, they're the super remarkable neutral headphones.
HD650/xx are only a little less neutral, but they're just not that magic headset anymore.

I have some shitty old PS3 headset from ages ago
Which would be the better choice (prices are didgeridollaridoos
>SteelSeries Siberia 150 = $80
>Corsair Void = $85

Considering upgrading from the 6xx to the hd700 drop but hesitating because of looks.
Why the fuck are the 700s so ugly when hd800 looks so great
Is it worth 2 times the hd6xx price?

>>61134054
hey op, i found this pic a long time ago and i wanted to know if these headphones really exist or if there are real headphones looking smiliar, i would pay soooo much money for these i just think they look epic

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>>61136898
forgot to add pic here it is

>>61136911
>he doesn't know about V-moda

>>61136918
omg thx

>>61136911
>>61136982
FYI: negroid bass but V-moda makes the famous V-Moda BoomPro mic.

>>61136855
Neither. Read the OP.

>>61136895
Pretty much nobody likes the 700. The 600 and 650/xx are much better.

>>61137431
True, 600 and 650/6XX snap much better.

Just ordered the 6XXs, first jump into the audiophile world. Have the 6 months until delivery to save some more for a DAC/amp setup so that's good.

>>61137541

Pls stop typing like a nu-male fedora. Just do some research it isn't fucking hard.

>>61137580
huh?

>>61137685

This website for people over the age of 18

>>61137734
got me there I'm actually seven and a half

>>61136266
Is this legit or just meme?

>>61137766
>something on 4chan
>questioning meme status

>>61137766
I'm not an authority on this but it certainly looks like a meme. Everyone and their mother are unironically recommending the HD600s so I this is probably ironic.

>>61134208
Yeah, that's what I fear. I'll probably stick to my schiit plan and get a phono preamp sometime down the line.
>>61134283
I've heard of it, but I don't know why I'd do that. The jotunheim is already a really powerful amp that can easily drive t50s and he6s

>>61137580
He didn't ask anything you moron.

>>61135772
Not very well? That's not a good comparison

>>61136257
If you really want isolation and nothing else, probably some stupid Bose botnets with active isolation. The sennheiser momentum is also sold with ANC if you pay enough, and they actually sound good.

I'm looking for a successor for my K701 that's slowly turning yellow/gray.

I'm in Germany and willing to spend up to 450 Euros for an upgrade. I mostly liked the 701's openness and soundstage, therefore I'd go for full-size open back again. I'll be connecting to an Essence STX (to be replaced with an O2/ODAC soon).

The new headphones should definitely be a little more comfortable than the 701, and have a little more punch to it.

Do you guys have any suggestions? I've been looking at the Beyer T90, but don't know if that'll fit my bill.

Thanks a bunch.

>>61137842
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I disagree with what it says about the hd600s because I own them and they are perfect but after 4 years I've been thinking about trying something new headphones. Maybe those dt880s I thought I googled them and they have pretty high reccomendations.

>>61138373
I recommend against. Perhaps try k712 or something.
The problem with the beyers is that treble's absurdly powerful. That's very dangerous to your ears. There's countless reports of related issues.
Idiots perceive treble rape as detail, and this company is just exploiting it.

I'm new to caring about this stuff. Gonna get a decent pair of headphones soon and I was wondering if it would be alright to start out using ATH-M20X or if I should spend the extra buck getting the 40s

>>61139011
Go for the 40s.

>>61138386
That's nothing, when a sennheiser snaps, shades of razor sharp plastic fly everywhere at speeds of up to 300 mph. My friend was almost blinded by it, needless to say he's not bought another sennheiser.

>>61138340
Hey, I just recently upgrading my k702's to the Hifiman HE400i's. I'd definitely recommend them, they're like next tier comfort honestly, the pads are really snug (and the first headphones I've ever worn that actually work with glasses properly)
They are SUPER open though since they're planar, like, they're as loud on as they are off.

>>61139011
Between these, clearly m40x. Below that, it's chink-fi.
However, does it have to be Audio Technica? Consider other headphones at about that price, such as the Sennheiser HD558 and the Sony MDR-7506.

>>61139247
Hifiman is amazing and shit at the same time. On one hand they have a fucking un-damped planar driver with no backplate which is somehow super neutral fucking voodoo magic. On the other hand they can't figure out QC for shit.

How can I split audio out cable from my PC so one goes to active speakers and second to headphone amp?

>>61139457
Why not use a preamp?

Schiit Fulla 2 and Magni 2 Uber are suggested.

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I need headphone suggestions.

>Budget
No more than 150€.
>Source
Either my UR 22mk II or my phone (Galaxy S3 GT-I9300).
>Type of headphone
Full sized over ear.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
Rather nice since I wear glasses at all times.
>Sound signature
Rather neutral.
>Past headphones
AKG K271 MKII. Nice balanced sound, but there's no bass. Not just the boomy side of it, but I simply can't hear bass guitars lines at all. Amazing when listening to classical music, but I don't feel they do much else.

Pic related what I listen to at the moment.

>>61139531
Look into mdr-7506, mdr-v6, HD380 Pro, m40x.

>>61139557
Some look familiar to what I had tried before, but I'll keep an open mind and will look to try them again if I can, thanks.

>Budget
Preferably under $100
>Location
Australia
>Source
At the moment, front panel or USB. Wouldn't mind looking into a better set up, if you anons wouldn't mind sharing some relatively cheap ones.
>Type of headphone
on-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I want to be able to sit at my computer for 6-10 hours in one sitting, with minimal breaks. Sound quality doesn't bother me, as long as things are actually able to be listened to. I don't want some dusty old coot farting in my ear.
>Sound signature
"v-shaped (boosted bass and treble)"
>Past headphones
Plantronics Gamescom 308 - Decent ear foam, fairly decent built-in mic, can skip if I bother finding a decent mic arm for a mic I already have.

>>61139727
M40x with pads
Hm5

Just got my dt 770s in. Great fucking sound compared to my cloud IIs. Now I just need a good amp, I feel like they could be a little louder.

>>61139775
Thanks for the suggestions, but they're both about $170.
I probably should said $100 AUD to clarify. My bad.

>>61139727
>on-ear
>10 hours
No.
Do yourself some good and go over ear.

I just picked up a new headset for my pc since my old one broke. I don't know if this is relevant but the old one was a USB Headset and the new one is an analogue. Whenever I use Skype or Teamspeak, etc. with the new headset and someone talks, everything else gets it's volume lowered and when noone talks, everything else's volume slowly rises, which is really annoying. Does anyone know how to fix this?
I already have set communication to "do nothing" in my sound configuration.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

>>61139973
>I just picked up a new headset for my pc
hahahah lmao, what a pleb.

>>61139951
Well, I've been wearing these Plantronics ones for the past almost 12, and it's not going to be a straight 10 hours.
I've tried several IEMs before, and they all feel irritating after a few minutes.

>>61140028
For comfort, go *over* ear, not *in* ear (IEM), not *on* ear (resting on ears instead of on head).

>>61140050
Got any recommendations for a sub-hundred AUD set then? I bought these too long ago and have no idea about headphones.

>>61140078
100 Australian Dollar equals 59.08 British Pound
Sorry, I don't know anything that cheap. I'd suggest not getting anything, and saving money into an emergency fund so that you can last a couple of month without income.
Come back when your economic situation is better. Good luck my friend.

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I'm thinking of buying a AKG K92 for 60€ on Amazon, is it worth?

>>61139861
Dunno exactly what the prices are over there but take a look at some of superluxes stuff, maybe an m30x or something too.

>>61140112
if you can get some velour earpads for it, maybe

>>61140111
It's not financial issues, I'd rather just not spend a ton on headphones.
I know I bought these on sale, but are even decent quality headphones worth more than the $100 I'm expecting to get anything for?
Cheers anyway.

>>61135133

Anyone?

>>61140168
Decent starts around 70GBP. The good stuff is 150-300.

How good is SMSL M3 for HD650? Will it power them enough?

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>>61134054
>Budget
About 100 CAD or 75 USD

>Location
Canada

>Source
It's going to be plugged into my motherboard which uses a Realtek S1220A

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
As much as possible,but I can always buy ear pads

>Sound signature
Doesn't matter

>Past headphones
None, I currently use my Samsung earbuds that came with my phone

So far I'm thinking about the Audio-Technica ATH-M30x, but can anyone provide more knowledgeable suggestions? Thanks in advance

Is the planar meme worth it at all? I'm the fag looking for neutrals and currently looking at the HD600s. Somebody mentioned hifiman planar ones, are they worth considering at all if I'm just looking for something realistic and neutral?

>>61139973
I don't know if anyone here can help you, and you may be better off going to >>>/g/sqt/ or something for this.

>>61140206
Max input power for the HD650 is ~240mw at 300ohms, that amp gives 24mw at 300ohms, or 1/10th of the HD650's maximum.

So i doubt it's powerful enough really.

i want wireless headphones because it's 2017

>>61140273
What's more important to you, bass linearity or treble linearity?

>>61140638
Uhh can you explain to a newfag?

>>61140649
HD600 has more realistic cymbals and other treble based instruments. HE-400I has tighter bass because of its extension and the lack of a midbass boost like the HD600.

>>61140328
Then go get some faggot

>>61140328
Watch out, you'll trigger the poorfag who can't afford a 384GB phone to store FLACs for wireless use.

>>61140688
>tighter bass
Sorry if I'm being autistic, but what does that mean? Like I said, I really am a newfag itt.

Am I understanding right that the HD600 is better for treble, while the HE-400i provides a more realistic bass at the cost of trebles?

How do they compare in terms of soundstage/positional accuracy?

>>61140777
If in doubt, go HD600. There's no more neutral than that. Not without some flaw or another, that is.
It's a reputable modular (all parts replaceable) headphone that's been around since 1997 against a newish headphone with notably poor QC.

>>61137766
Meme with some truth behind it
Love my good old knife-ears (DT 990 pro)

>>61140777
Thats the gist of it.

HE400i absolutely destroys the HD600 in terms of soundstage, HD600 wins in imaging though.

>>61140777
Bass magnitude wise, HD600 is already more bassy than the neutral target, the HE400i is way, way more so.
Bass detail wise, the HD600 reproduction is accurate, just slightly biased, favoring the higher end of the bass range with slightly more magnitude.
If what you're looking for is neutrality, it's HD600 hands off.

>>61140688
>HE-400I has tighter bass because of its extension and the lack of a midbass boost like the HD600.

HE-400i has a mid-bass boost, it just has more sub-bass to go with it. HE-400i sounds more midbassy than the HD600 overall.

I'd recommend the HD600.

>>61140835
Overall, the HD600 is the most balanced, all-rounder of the two.

>>61140878
Other way around HE400i has accurate bass while HD600 has the midbass bloom for the "warmer" sound sig. Bass distortion is objectively better on the 400i, thus it is objectively more accurate.
>>61140894
Objectively wrong. 400i is a flat line as seen on the inner fidelity graphs.
>>61140913
Worthless buzzwords.

>>61139300
I don't really care about branding and such. Just want something neutral but with good impact. The SHP1900s I have now are alright, but I wouldn't exactly call them great. Suppose I got what I paid for.

>>61140966
This is not how our ears work. If you've listened to the two side by side, the HE-400i has more mid-bass despite having more sub-bass.

>>61140966
>400i is a flat line
In absolute terms. When applying a reference harman target, it shows how it's bassy as fuck.

>Budget
$70 firm
>Location
U.S.
>Source
A/V Receiver (Fisher RS 9-14A)
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High as possible
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
Sony MDR XB950
>Disliked
Too Much Bass
Too fragile
>Liked
Detachable chord

>>61141015
I have both of them dude. The HE400i sounds noticeably bass lighter than the HD600, so much so that I have to EQ bass up by 3-4 db to achieve the same loudness.

I don't know what to believe. So the 400i is either way too strong on bass (compared to perfect neutral), or it's all right, and it's more accurate, and also apparently has a much better soundstage?

I'm going to be using these for quite a bit of gaming so accurate positioning is important to me, so is >>61140835 correct? If not, I'll just go for the HD600s, but if the soundstage quality is really noticeable I'm back to not having any idea what to choose.

>>61141015
Reputable headphone vs meme planar. Plenty of reviews for both available out there. A wallet. Your wallet. Think about what to do.

>>61141026
Other way around. Harman target would show the 400i having bass below the target.

>>61141044
Positioning is done via binaural audio usually, so either will work. Soundstage is a preference thing. Don't let the HD600 worshippers tell you what to buy. There is no perfect headphone despite what they suggest.

>>61141032
Then this is truly odd because I heard the HE400i as having more bass, less upper midrange and more treble, similar to what shows on InnerFidelity's graphs.

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD580wHD600headband.pdf

https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE4002014.pdf

>>61141070
I'm yet to see anybody suggest HD600 is perfect.
It is, however, very neutral and very well balanced, good at everything, bad at nothing, no real flaws to it.
And it's reputable, all of its parts are sold separately and can be replaced easily, and has been around for a really long time (1997), unlike trends that come and go.

>>61141072
You can see on the graph that the 400i slopes slightly downward linearly from the mids to 20hz. The HD600 has a slight upper bass hump, then rolls off substantially. If you're not aware of masking, then you may think the 400i is midbassy bit it's really not.
>>61141112
It's bad at electronic music with a lot of complex bass. Feel free to dispute that but it's what I've experienced.

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>>61141151
I knew you was gonna mention the bass output, but the FR of both headphones takes all areas into account, it's like the HD650 vs HD600, why does the HD650 have more bass when it's just less treble than the HD600? That's just how it's perceived.

I tend to hear a similar thing with the HE400i, similar to the HD600 but more V-shaped.

Pic related, I know it's SBAF... but it still is a good measurement.

>>61141151
I love electronic music, particularly tracker/demoscene music. I do like how it sounds on my HD600. That's of course, my experience. YMMV.

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>>61141231
HD600 for comparison.

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>>61141231
The HD650 does have more bass though, it's not just perception.

To my ears, the 400i sounds like a headphone with recessed but very tight bass and splashy treble.

I can't tell the diference between a $40 gaming headset and $130 beyerdynamic headphones.

>>61141044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDRHFNfFCFU
watch that to understand neutrality
HD600 are targeting an older standard for neutrality while the more recent target is more bass heavy, also peoples brain get used to whatever sound they listen frequently so most HD600 fanatics will tell you all bassier headphones are basscannon for niggerbass music, don't take them too seriously
in the end whats best for you is to go to a headphones store and test what kind of sound you enjoy the most

>>61141029
Somic MM185

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>>61141315
It's just shelved desu, I mean this image agrees with your argument but if it was leveled on the bass response it would show less treble on the HD650.

>>61141392
Well yeah, it's obvious that FR is relative. I tend to use the 300hz-1000hz as the reference area for judging other parts of the FR.

>>61141351
perfect

>>61141315
>To my ears, the 400i sounds like a headphone with recessed but very tight bass and splashy treble.
Are you getting a consistent seal, they definitely don't sound like that.

>>61141489
Yeah, but my ears have to bend downwards to fit in the pads. I also have the 2.5mm version if that makes any difference.

>>61141341
>in the end whats best for you is to go to a headphones store and test what kind of sound you enjoy the most
That would require me finding one (it's probably not going to be very close). Also, I don't have a lot of reference, and I'm not much of an audiophile, so while in the long term I want something that's objectively good, if I try out each for about a minute I probably won't be able to make a good judgement.

Thanks for the video though, I'll watch it a bit later.

>>61141512
>I'm not much of an audiophile
then i recommend the Philips Fidelio X2, it's neutral enough and works great for games and movies

>>61141559
What's the advantage? They don't seem to be cheaper or anything.

>>61141600
HD600 work great for music but the lack of bass is very noticeable on games/movies, neutrality is great if you like to fap to every detail in the music you hear but as you said you're not an audiophile you'll probably enjoy more a general use headphone and the X2 is pretty much the best for the price in that category

>>61141559
>Colored AF headphones
>Neutral

>>61141752
the X2 is actually very close to the Harman target
but of course, if all you listen to is the HD600 you'll hear everything as colored
remember headphones should be judged against speakers, not other headphones, as that is what they try to emulate

>>61141709
>lack of bass
As in, they actually have weak bass? Or as in they don't have particularly pronounced/enhanced bass?

I watch movies very seldom, and in games I'm either playing shitty FPSes where sound quality doesn't matter when the game is using fucking Source engine, or I play immersive RPGs (modded skyrim, witcher 3) for which I'd like realistic sound - I may be wrong, but I wouldn't expect strong bass to be important for that.

>>61142084
>replying to the literally no bass troll

>>61142084
low bass is very weak in them, this is important in games not so much for the music but for the sound effects (gunshots,punches, roars/animal sounds, explosions, footsteps, echoes, thunders, etc) for ambient noises bass matters a lot

Fuuuugggg I'm loving these 770s. Listening to music at a high volume actually feels good now.

>>61142279
>Listening to music at a high volume actually feels good now.
I hope the beyer treble rape doesn't leave you deaf.

>>61134054

>Budget
willing to spend up to $100-$150
>Location
USA
>Source
Phone, Laptop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Both good quality and really good comfort for long duration of listening. Used for travel.
>Sound signature
V-Shaped
>Past headphones
SHE3590 x 3, SE215

Really loved my SHE3590 and I'm glad mine lasted for more than 3 years. Currently eyeing Sennheiser Momentum. Been hearing mixed stuff about ZS5. I wish someone could give better insights for this.

Really looking for a IEM with mic, volume control and possibly some playback control. Changeable wires would also be a huge plus.

>>61142102
> no bass troll
not him, but it's true compared to the 650s.

>>61142084
he meant that the 600's use is more for monitoring/audiophiling than 'regular' media.

>>61142495
>not him, but it's true compared to the 650s.
Yet, both fr plots and reviewers do report minimal difference.

>>61142488
>>61142102
>samefag

>>61140221
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170604122955&SearchText=Takstar+PRO82

>>61140221
XPT100
CB-1/MM185

>>61142495
Hm, should I get the 650s then? Time to order the massdrop 6xx after all?

I may sound extremely undecided but that's because I actually am. The best pair I've ever owned are the HD558s, which are by no means high-end, and I don't really have any opportunities to try out other high-quality pairs. So I'm basically choosing headphones purely by reading text.

>>61137294
They're stylish as fuck though. It makes me wonder why anyone buys Beats when V-Moda exists.

>>61142869
>V-Moda
>Stylish
They look pretty retarded desu. Custom Studios look better in terms of aesthetics.

>>61142869
They both look horrible, to me.
Sennheiser looks stylish. The brown HD598, the grey HD579... I could look at them all day long.

>>61142846
I'm not that guy you were talking to, but I own the HD650 and highly recommend it. $200 is a great price for the 6XX. As long as you don't mind the wait, you won't be disappointed.

>>61142902
Beyersremorse
>>61142955
Snapheiser

>>61142955
ATH-AD700 are the true fashion headphones

Too bad they're discontinued and replaced by the boring 700X.

>>61142997
I heard someone saying they're using second-quality drivers or something. Is there any substance to these claims, or are they literally HD650s with different branding and at half the price?

>>61143012
We spewing memes now?
>soundstage
>real

Is the creative soundblaster e1 a good amp to drive my dt770?

>>61143060
>I heard someone saying they're using second-quality drivers or something

Sounds like someone making a pessimistic, baseless assumption to me. I haven't heard anything anywhere about the drivers being second-quality. Check out the driver matching here: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MassdropHD6XX.pdf

The cable is a bit shorter, and the plastic color/finish is more simple. Other than that, it's an HD650, and you don't have anything to worry about.

>>61143151
no

>>61143464
Well what's the cheapest portable amp that can power this thing?

>>61143475
What's the impedance of the DT770 you have?

>>61143475
80 ohm. Sound is at normal listening volume at max volume on my phone. On my desktop it's okay but I feel it could go a little louder.

>>61143556
Do you want it louder on your phone, OC or both?

>>61143600
PC* I really can't type for shit

>>61143600
Both I guess. Some stuff sounds great on my desktop but some stuff is just not loud enough even at max volume.

>>61143464
>it's an HD650, and you don't have anything to worry about.
Alright. Now just to reiterate because I am retarded when it comes to this, the HD650s are basically like the 600s but with a bit of extra bass, right? And otherwise on par in terms of mid-range and treble quality, and general clarity.
At the same time I'm not expecting a huge rock-tier booming bass - I'm going to be using it mostly for gaming, and would like to hear Skyrim dragons roar, not have my ears blown out by hard rock.

Am I looking at the right pair of headphones then?

>>61143625
For the money you can't beat the 6xx but you'll need an amp for them to sound good

Can you tell my which one is better Superlux hd 681 or hd 681 evo? Evo is newer model I think so is there some improvements or something?

>>61143682
I'm planning on getting a Fulla 2 which I believe is quite enough.

Also, if the 6xx/650s and 600s were the same price, would you still recommend the 650s based on what I said above? Because I plan to keep them forever and I wouldn't mind paying a bit extra to get better experience during the next 5-10+ years.

>>61143625
I'm nitpicking here but bass is not that important for rock but it is for "epic" music
Bass is what puts the fear of god into you and shake you to your very core

>>61143625
>>61143762
There's not a big difference between the HD600 and HD650. The 650 has a bit more bass, though they by all means are not bassy headphones, and the treble is smoother. Mid-range is excellent. I use my HD650 for gaming sometimes, and they do work well for that.

>>61143718
I'd go for the original 681 along with some velour pads.

>>61143798
>I'd go for the original 681 along with some velour pads.
They are better?

>>61143762
The fulla 2 should be good enough
I personally like the 650 more but they're close enough to be a matter of personal preference, i would still say that for skyrim and such the 650 are better

>>61143845
>>61143798
I keep seeing people saying the HD600s have a good but very small soundstage, which may be bad for gaming.

If you say you're used the 650s (which I'm assuming are similar) for Skyrim and such, would you say that impacted immersion at all? Would you have preferred something with a more expansive soundstage, or are they just fine?

For reference, my current HD558s are definitely better than $30 chinkshit I used previously, but I wouldn't mind some improvement - yet I don't think they're horrible and need a lot of said improvement. Would the 600/650/6xx deliver this improvement?

Guys I own hd599 with on board audio, I'm pretty happy with the headphones but was wondering if I even need an amp and or dac, since they are just 50 ohms, i can spend around 100$ +-

>>61143810
As someone who's had both, absolutely.

>>61144112
>I keep seeing people saying the HD600s have a good but very small soundstage, which may be bad for gaming.
rtings considers it not only good: http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-600
But better than HD650's: http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/sennheiser/hd-650

>>61144120
An amp isn't necessary, but an external dac would be an improvement over the onboard dac.

For a beginner I recommend the DAC X6, which is a dac/amp combo. There's also the Fulla 2 if you want made in 'murica and a smaller form factor.

>>61144120
In your situation, a DAC+AMP like a Schiit Fulla 2 would be ideal. It'd give you a reference good source, both dac and amp.
The motherboard might or might not be good, but the main issue is that you have nothing to compare it against. The fulla2 would give you this reference, and it'd also sound good no matter what you plugged it into (other boards that are possibly worse, laptops and so on).

>>61142846
I am the guy you were talking to (the one you replied to) and I jumped on the 6xx ship today. Extremely glad I did. Can't wait to get them!

>>61144112
Soundstage preference is subjective and won't increase your kdr if that's what you're talking about.

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>>61143810
>>61143839
The Evo is supposed to be bassy in comparison, as well as the 681B which it is more comparable to. The normal 681 is well balanced, but the earpads they come with are crap and should be replaced with some velour ones.

>>61144112
You know if you don't like the 6XX for whatever reason, you could just sell it off and get more than what you paid for it? I have played modded Skyrim before using my 650, and haven't had any complaints.

>>61144248
>>61144370
Objectively both soundstage and imaging are worse on the HD650, as shown by those rtings links.
Sure, some people will prefer HD650 but the majority don't and it's objectively worse. I'm not sure why some people here try to push it over the HD600.

>>61144248
>HE400i has the best soundstage measured
Huh, interesting. Certainly reflects my personal experience there. However, >>61144416 I'm not quite sure the way they measure soundstage is really meaningful. I didn't find the HD600 to have a large soundstage at all.

>>61144456
Probably more correctness than "everything sounds far away", which is shitty coloring desu. A gimmick.

>>61144370
Pretty sure you can't increase kdr using audiophile headphones anyway. Though there's an argument to be made that proper imaging helps you locate enemies by their footsteps or other sounds. Anyway I'm mostly looking for immersion in skyrim et al.

I'll look around for more reviews and ratings then. Although it might be worth getting the 6xx, later getting a pair of 600s if my research shows they are likely to be better, comparing them, and either returning the 600s or reselling the 650s (possibly for a profit, like >>61144387 suggested).

>>61144479
But the most "correct" headphone they've measured sounds much much wider than the HD600. Which is why I doubt the measurements and anyone who's retarded enough to say a certain level of soundstage is "correct".

>>61144544
From a non-audiophile's perspective, it seems obvious: if I have a sound source at head level, 4 o'clock, a few feet away (e.g. a talking NPC or an enemy or whatever) then, if I can tell that (approximately) without looking around (like I would be able to in real life) the soundstage is accurate/correct.

Not sure how that translates to actual headphone measurements.

>>61144416
>the majority don't
>it's objectively worse

Why do you keep saying this? It isn't true at all. I'm surprised you didn't reference your reviewers again. There are pros and cons when comparing the 600 and 650 to each other, and neither is flat out "better" than the other. It comes down to personal preference.

>>61144687
If the soundstage is exaggerated for coloring, maybe you'll get the knife treatment from behind, despite it sounded so far away.

Is the E10K enough for a pair of HD600?

>>61144714
It's been a while since I bought my HD600, but before I did, I spent a long time researching, particularly against the HD650. There's no end to reviews featuring both. The HD600 was favored most of the time.

>>61144687
It sort of doesn't, that's the issue. If you have binaural audio it will sound correct no matter the headphone.

>>61144757
Interesting. Because when I was researching for a long time, opinions was literally 50/50.

>>61144841
From my recent research it also seems that the 600s are the "gold standard" while the 650s are "also good, but slightly off, for better or for worse". Now I'm left wondering whether for me it will be for better, or for worse.

I think I'll end up doing what I mentioned - get 6xx now while they're up, see how they sound and read more reviews, and potentially order some 600s to try out if I feel like I'd benefit from them.

>>61144757
Have you actually heard the HD650 before? I can tell that you love your HD600. That's great and all, and I'm happy that you're happy, but you're lying to people on here when you say it's "objectively better" just because of what some other guy thinks.

>>61140112
No. Look at the FR. They're shit.

>>61144841
(still me, the one with HD600) I wanted a deadpan look at the music as I'm as analytical as I am autistic, so I went with HD600.
I love them. At some point, probably later this year or sometime next year, I intend to pick up k712 to have something more focused on enhancement. With "dat bass" and "soundstage". Just to satisfy my curiosity.
>>61144971
No, I haven't had the chance unfortunately. Don't get me wrong, I would love to. I won't buy them (or abuse amazon returns...) just to try though. If a friend got them, I'd totally go for a month exchange or some such arrangement.

Checked out the /csg/ infographic, i'm looking for some mid priced bluetoof buds. What's the best bang for my buck? would mainly be listening to lectures and podcasts, but i'd be using them every day so comfort/battery life and build quality would be prioritized over sound quality.

>see anons talking about HD 6XX
>"That was months ago what the fuck"
>See massdrop
Thanks, /g/

What's the best sub-$100 dac/amp combo for these?

>>61145147
The $99 Schiit Fulla 2, or the DAC-X6.

>>61145147
https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=120&cp_id=12008&cs_id=1200801&p_id=11567#

>>61145036
>HD 600
>"analytical"

But that's not the ER4-SR

>>61145336
>ER4-SR
IEM. I wasn't looking for ear dildos. Full sized headphones are uncomfortable enough.

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Another victim of the Beyerdynamic meme:

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/

>When i first put them on, they sounded good-ish, clear, airy and bright. but after 5mins or so, something unexplainable start to give me very high discomfort. As if something was piercing inside my ear.
>I can physically feel damage in my ears even the next day after hearing these for minutes. As if something sharp is cramping up from my ears all the way into my mouth under the tounge LOL.
>Im returning this and going to buy sennheiser hd600..from what i've heard its apperantly the perfect headphones with everything balanced.

>>61145166
The led on that one is can burn your eyes , avoid it at any cost

Guys, is an ATH-M50x a good option or there's better ones by same or similar price?

>>61145410
Put a piece of tape over it.

>>61145437
For $50 and a long ass wait more you could get the way better HD6xx

>>61145452
Or a 330 or 470 ohm resistor in series.

>>61145388
>shitposting on head fi as an excuse to shitpost on /hpg/
Have we hit a new level of shitposting?

>>61145592
Too much treble is bad, and will damage the ear irreversibly, real quick, without the victim realising.

>>61145475
I don't think is 50 more... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HVLUR86/ref=ox_sc_act_title_7?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

>>61145626
Yeah, and snapheisers explode when they snap. Shards of plastic flying everywhere.

>>61145642
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx
6xx is 199 right now

Fag that clogged up the whole thread with HD600/HD650 discussion here, bit the bullet and ordered a 6xx. Regardless of whether it's better or worse than the 600s, it's definitely going to be an upgrade over my 558s.

Also
>https://schiit.eu.com/fulla-2
>out of stock
Here's hoping they get some more before December

my hd681evo just arrived. what am i in for?
also, recommend me some music

>>61145388
>look mom, i made this post on dead-fi so that i can shitpost better on this mongolian basket weaving forum
Mudheiser shills are this autistic. Hope your chinese plastic snaps in your face.

>>61145666
>$50 more
>Estimated ship date is Dec 20, 2017
Kek.

>>61145684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiCEzJIDpwU

>>61145437
Custom Studio
>>61145684
NiggaBass

>>61145748
I did say it was a long ass wait. But the ATH M50x is trash. Even if you don't want to spend a bunch more or wait you could do better . Try the Beyer Custom Studio

>>61146016
Just grab some mdr-7506. They're good and cheap AF.

>>61146078
Just grab a Superlux HD 661 :^)

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What does /g/ think about the Sony MDR7506?

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>>61134054
>Budget: up to £100
>Location: UK
>Source: just a normal head phone jack, can have usb as well if needed
>Type of headphone: headset with a microphone, full sized
>Open or closed: closed, i play csgo
>Comfort level: as high as possible for price
>Sound signature: no preference apart from csgo

>Past headphones- What im using right now, turtle beach x12's, 5 years old and going strong but not at all comfy.

>>61146216
Status cb-1

>>61146216
Fuck you, now I'm hungry.

>>61146216
>Type of headphone: headset with a microphone, full sized
Dont. Get a cheap clipon mic from china and a proper pair. Its cheaper and better quality

>>61146294
Also get the boompro mic

>>61146128
pretty basic and better value than most, not very comfortable with stock earpads. Changing to better earpads can only do so much because it's still fairly small compared to bigger (hence more comfortable headphones).

but since it's not practical t take my hueg headphones out, it's the sony MDR that I take occasionally especailly since they're foldable yet is wonderfully not flimsy like the similarly priced ATH foldable headphones.

I wouldn't recommend it as a main headphone for anyone though, especially if increasing the budget can get you the HD6XX or the K7XX nowadays at $200.

HD558 is back on Amazon for $80 new.

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-558-Headphones/dp/B004FEEY9A

>>61134054
https://youtu.be/9s4WhTbUQlE
What does /hpg/ think of this meme?

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Can anyone suggest a update go my beloved motorola 305s? Same style but higher quality?

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Good? Bad? Any opinions at all?

Not interested in mic quality since I already have a nice desktop mic, but I would appreciate any opinions on sound quality, bonus points if you own them and let me know how well they work.

I have a gift copy of Arma: Cold War, so if you help me out link your steam ;)

>>61146441
>"surround sound"
>wireless
>headset
i cannot name a single good thing about this headphone and why bother getting a headset (with compromised quality) if you have a mic already

can't imagine a wireless headphone at $90 is going to be any decent, interference is going to be an issue

>>61146441
>Good? Bad?
Off the dogshit autism scale.
>I already have a nice desktop mic
Then take those $100 and invest into a decent pair of headphones. M40x + HM5 pads are a good closed option and SHP9500 are nice open headphones, both are around $100.

>>61146441
Stay away from any gaming setup, they're marketed to the same people that buy aerodynamic steath keyboards

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>>61146441

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>>61146441

>>61146441
It's doubly shit. You don't need wireless, and you don't need a headset. Buy an HD558.

https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-558-Headphones/dp/B004FEEY9A

>>61146441
What everyone else said, but basically:
If it's a headset stay away
If it's marketed as a gaming device, doubly stay away
If it claims to have surround sound, triply stay away.
So basically stay very far away from those

What's your budget?

>Sennheiser HD700
>138 purchased
huh? people are actually buying them?

>>61146487
>>61146514
>>61146523
Thanks, the only reason I was looking at it was because I recently bought one of the new Logitech keyboards because the switches feel like I'm pressing on Jesus's nipples, and it's made me do a 180 on my opinion on Logitech.

>>61146367
>Price: $92.99

>>61146626
It's more expensive than HD600/650 and the model number is higher.
So it must be better. Many think like that and buy without a second thought.
Chances are it's going to sound good to them, compared to whatever beats or skullcandy they're used to.

>>61146626
Massdrop better come out with an HD7XX with HD600 drivers just to fuck over the retards buying that shit.

>>61146648
Where are you from?

>>61146668
Monaco.

>>61146648
It was $80 at the time I posted that, and being sold by Amazon. Seems they went out of stock.

>>61146627
Logitech is great, I live down the street from their headquarters, but don't buy audio equipment from them. Anything else is probably fine.

>>61146657
i'd be happy with just HD600 coming on massdrop with a recolor

>>61146734
I just want an HD600 made of all metal. No snapping.

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>Budget
50-75 hard limit
>Location
us
>Source
laptop
>Type of headphone
over ear and iem's
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
mid-high comfort
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

Has anyone ever come on /hpg/ and asked for anything other than comfortable headphones? It's usually something along the lines of "as comfortable as I can afford" or some such.

>>61146832
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170604122955&SearchText=Takstar+PRO82

>>61146853
I think the HD800 is pretty universally agreed upon as the most comfortable but only a fucking tard would spend a thousand dollars purely for a tiny bit of extra comfort over many other cheaper and almost as comfy headphones.

>>61146832
Somic MM185/CB-1

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Hey guys, I asked a few days ago about a budget amp and I eventually ended up with the DAC-X6 and I gotta say i'm really enjoying it. I've never even considered playing audio through a usb interface.

Been listening to a bunch of pic related FLAC files and I could not be happier with the purchase.

>>61147194
Could you share the files? Been looking for a good rip for a while.

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>>61147398
Got you covered

>https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/search?c=2_3&s=0&limit=50&userID=0&q=Space+Dandy

>>61147194
what headphones do you have?

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Speaking of headphones...

What ribbon microphone would /hpg/ go for if they had a sub 2k budget?

There any real difference in sound between all the different models of ATH-M50s? Currently using some ATH-PRO500MK2 that I modified to be over ear. Also would switching from 53mm drivers to 45mm be very noticeable?

>>61147478
Thanks, bud. Searched up on nyaa but it only turned up volume 2.

If any of you have used a VOIP program from a phone have you realized that smartphone microphones sound better than anything else you normally hear? I know my $100 smartphone sounds way better than my samson go mic. Why is this? What kind of microphone do I need to buy to make it sound like that?
They're so good that you don't even need to use push to talk because they pick up absolutely nothing but your voice and they actually make you sound like you even when you're using them from far away.
Will something like the USB speakerphones on amazon match the quality of a smartphone?

>>61146756
HD600 doesn't snap unless you abuse. I don't want a metal HD600 because it will be too heavy.

Schiit magni/modi or Jotunheim for my hd600
help me decide pls

>HD6XX
>10766 purchased
i keep refreshing every now and then, i just want to see it hit 11500 already, I don't even understand why but I want to see it happen

>>61148444
hifimediy sabre dac and used magni 2

>>61148444
Neither of those. Get one of these: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

>>61148444
Be cool and build your own O2

>>61148444
iFi Micro iDSD

>>61148486
>>61148498
>>61148545
>>61148555
why those can I receive explanation
are they better than schiit
won't lie I really like the design cos I'm a Mac fag but sound quality trumps all obv

Which setting is better for using headphones on a PS3 through optical out and a DAC, Bitstream or Linear PCM?

>>61148555
>top tier sound quality
>switchable pre/line rca out
>can be portable (plug n play for apple and android)
>integrated bass and soundstage booster switches (better than eq software)
>4 watts headphone out

Are the Piston 3's still the budget IEM of choice? Mines broke and I'm looking for a replacement but everyone says the Xiaomi Hybrids are more of a sidegrade.

>>61148648
The NFB-11 is built with higher quality parts than what Schiit uses in the Magni/Modi and Jotunheim. You're getting a better value to your dollar with it.

>>61148659
Please respond, I've been reading conflicting information for the past 2 hours. I'm using ATH-M40Xs if that's relevant, and only interested in stereo sound.

>tfw by the time I get my Christmas present (Senn 6xx) I'll probably already have splurged on another pair of headphones and no longer be excited for them
On the other hand I might manage to forget I even bought them by late August and they'll be a true Christmas day surprise.

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>>61147600
DT 990 Pros. I've seen people bitch about them but I got these on the cheap from a friend. Replaced the ear pads with brand new ones and modified it so it has a detachable wire instead of the built in one.

The little plastic tabs that hold onto the actual ear pads are beginning to crack. What I think I'm going to do is 3d print some replacements.

>>61144248
Yeah but these fuckers have unironic recommendations for Beats headphones so I'm going to disregard their entire website.

>>61134054
I want to lick her feet

>>61145674
You could always get the DAC X6. It's wall-powered so it can handle headphones over 300 ohms.

So what's the difference between the DT770 32, 80 and 240 OHMs?

How will each sound without an dac/amp?

Why does everyone shill DACs as necessary? Shouldn't your far more powerful computer do all of that easily enough?

>>61149281
It's not an issue of power so much as it is an issue of shielding. The circuitry handling the digital to analogue conversion can pick up on electrical interference from the rest of the motherboard or internal components. That's why some people tend to notice a slight buzzing sound when their computers are doing work.

The point of the external dac is to isolate the digital to analogue conversion outside that environment. The reason it comes up a lot is because on the low end of the price scale most amps and dacs come in a single package like the DAC-X6.

>hit 11,500
>we've extended the drop to 15,000 units!!!
calling it now

>>61149281
You realize that the signal conversion that allows your speakers or headphones to output sound isn't handled by the CPU, right? It's literally a small chip manufactured in some korean factory by whatever generic company the motherboard company outsourced their DAC features too.

You can literally build your own DAC with chips sold by texas instruments.

>>61149317
While we're talking technical, I have a shitty headset mic that picks up a whole fuckton of static (it was a gift from a well-intentioned friend and I haven't bothered to buy a real mic yet), but I notice the static interference goes way down if I hold my headphone amp in my hand. It's still kinda there because it's a really cheap shitty mic but would adding a DAC to the circuit unfuck most of the mic static?

>>61149358
What might be happening is your hand is shielding/grounding the mic from whatever is causing the static. Putting a dac woudln't do anything because it's the crummy equipment itself that's causing the problem. You may as well save 60 dollars and buy the 3 dollar mic that's shown in the installgentoo wiki page.

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What's a good upgrade for a Sony MDR-xb450?

Give me a price within reason of course.

>>61149281
>Why does everyone shill DACs as necessary
because they provide separation from other components. You know what else can handle audio processing easily? A phone CPU. You know what has awful sound quality that's made worse every time it receives a push notification? A phone. Try it yourself!

>>61149466
Ath-m50 is probably the best

>>61149466
STAX L300

>>61149481
Nice joke, anon.
>>61149466
Beyerdynamic Custom Studio.

>>61149466
hd 598
Sony v6
beyerdynamic dt770
ath m40
shp 9500
koss ksc75
hd 558
k701
ath 900x

>>61149517
Should I get a dac/amp with the hd 598?
Also is the mic that comes with it good or should I just stick with the headphone itself?

>>61149517
>ath 900x
I miss my old ath 900x. Most comfortable pair of headphones I ever wore. The trouble is they got this dogshit non detachable cable which I immediately replaced with a modded port I could detach.

>>61149546
You missed the A990Z price error a week ago too. It was down to $100 USD.

>>61149273
one will sound pretty normal
one will sound kinda quiet, turn up your macbook volume for the middle one
one will sound really quiet

>>61149559
>A990Z
Fuck me I would have bought 2 and given one away to my mate for his birthday

>>61149540
>Should I get a dac/amp with the hd 598?
Try it without one and see if it gets loud enough and sounds good enough.
>Also is the mic that comes with it good or should I just stick with the headphone itself?
It's just an inline mic, so it's probably not that great.

>>61149604
In that case I'm currently looking at the DT770 32ohm, hd 598 and the ATH-M50x because those look like the best options for the price I want and they don't seem like they're going to be shitty headphones (which I am unfortunately used to because I've been using earplug headphones since I was 15.)

Out of those three is there anything I should be worried about or any pro/cons that either of them have over the others?

>>61149669
I've heard a lot of bad things about the m50's and 32 ohm version of the 770's. You could also get some 558's and do the foam mod on them, I've heard that makes them sound very similiar to 598's

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>>61149765
So this would be a reasonable price for the headset?

For some reason the one without the mic is like 200+ dollars which makes me think something is fishy about it.

Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I just don't want to be ripped off.

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Let's talk about ways to make the HD6XX wireless for trips to the kitchen and whatnot. Has any company conceived of a bluetooth receiver that will function with a split-channel pair of headphones like such? As in, a left and a right receiver. Or is my best option perhaps to buy a bluetooth amp and walk around with it in my pocket?

>>61149874
That seems around what it would be. Buying used would probably be really good since a lot of people have 558's and 598's. The non mic version is so expensive because it's a discontinued model I believe.

>>61149956
>Let's talk about ways to make the HD6XX wireless

Uhh... no.

>>61149874
It's not a headset. It has a cable with a shitty in-line microphone. Do you actually need something with a microphone?

>>61150071
No but that seems to be the cheapest price for a random google search for the product.

I'm new to mid-high class headphones so I don't know where to go to buy them.

>>61149986
But what if I'm listening to music at my desk and I want to make a sandwich?

>>61149513
>recommending beyermeme

>>61150128
That's why you get your girlfriend to make a sandwich.

>>61150090
In that case, I recommend getting a "Used - Like New" HD558 from here https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004FEEY9A

And put the rest of your budget towards an external amp/dac like a FiiO E10K or Schiit Fulla 2. The difference in sound quality between the HD558 and HD598 is negligible, but you will probably get a benefit in sound quality using an external audio source over your on-board.

There's also the foam removal mod that apparently improves the sound, maybe makes them sound the same as the HD598: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kJ7sN16qw

>>61150128
Buy a headphone stand. Put the headphones on the stand.

>buy pair of ATH M50s (not X)
>step on cable
>snap the headphone jack
saved from myself by myself

>>61149956
Just buy a 20m audio cable so you can walk all the way to the kitchen with the headphones on.
Would need to figure out how to properly amp the cable though...

new thread

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>>61150517
Get some better cable management going on before you do it again, dummy

>>61150387
A bit too late since I literally just ordered the HD598. How much does a dac/amp improve sound and will I need one for the HD598?

>>61150594
It hasn't shipped yet, so it's not too late. You can just cancel the order. An external amp/dac like those aren't required for an HD558 or 598, but it will benefit from one.

>>61148659
I'd use linear pcm. There's no point to delaying aac or whatever decoding.

>>61149195
That's... irrational.
And be careful they only look at sound objectively, and they disregard price entirely.

>>61150594
In my experience, they are very sensitive to not having an amp.
Any amp will work (a schiit fulla 2 is my suggestion, definitely get dac+amp), but without an amp, they sound odd (weird FR). It could be compensated via EQ, but still, having a good source that you can compare against is a must.

>>61149260
I could, but should I? AFAIK the Fulla 2 is enough for ~300Ω, and I really don't plan on upgrading my headphones any time soon after that, except to try out HD600s maybe.