/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>61150557
It was like six years ago (wow it's been a long time) and the only reason it happened was because I had my jack connection on the floor (don't do this) like a retard
Ever since then I've made it a rule that I only plug my cable into something that is at least kneecap level. That and I only buy detachable cables now, the M50x didn't exist back then but if it did I could have just bought a replacement cable for like $20 and saved myself a lot of trouble. Plus I guess I was just rough with my headphones but I found anything with a fixed cable tended to fray at the driver connection in about a years time and then the cable either had to be replaced or the headphones had to be trashed.

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Help /hpg/! Whats is this phone??

need some recommendations for a mid fi level universal iem

>Budget
flexible but prefer to stay around 800 aud
>Location
Australia
>Source
chord mojo or straight from a samsung s7
>Type of headphone
universal iem, ba drivers are preferred
>Comfort level
high
>Sound signature
preferably neutral, i dont mind slight bass or treble boost but would rather have a decent soundstage and flat responds than having nigger bass in my face
>Past headphones
cans are hd700 and vmoda m100
iems are se215 and jh angie

so far ive been looking at se535, noble 6, ath e70 and campfire nova but according to reviews ive read they all seems to fall short on some aspect, any recommendations are appreciated

>>61150737
Sony MDR7506

>>61150858
thnks anon!

need some decent wireless earphones that don't look shit, budget of around 150 AUD

>>61150775
I've been looking at the Sony XBA-N1 and XBA-N3 IEMs. They're hybrids - both BA and dynamic drivers. Not a lot of impressions available for them due to how limited the release was. Apparently they're light, comfy, and easy to drive. N3's are more neutral than N1's from what I can figure. Well below your target price though, N1's ~270-300 AUD, N3's ~350-400 AUD on eBay.

Personally tempted by the N3's but the price is a bit beyond me I think.

>>61150534
t-t-tame desu

>>61150964
thanks for the recommendation anon, i'll look more into them, tbqh im dropping money from my bike upgrading budget so figured i can sacrifice a part or two and buy something with more immediate return instead

>>61150775

AK T8iE sounded incredible out of a Mojo last time I tried them out, comfort is probably unmatched by anything else.

>Budget
£300
>Location
UK
>Source
Schiit stack. Likely selling them for something else within this year
>Type of headphone
Over-ear or on-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High. I'll swap the pads if they're the only problem
>Sound signature
Nice sound + big soundstage
>Past headphones
HD 600

>>61151373
cheers anon, did you demo the original model or the mk2?

>>61151583

mk2, apparently the xelento has better treble and sub bass, but I think the owner was just trying to upsell me.

Canadafag here. Going to cave on those massdrop sennheiser HD 6XX. What amp should I get? Objective2?

>>61151792
Depends what your budget is like, but I highly recommend the NFB-11: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

If you can't afford one right now, you've got 6 months to save up until your HD6XX arrives anyway.

Reposting from last thread since it's at page 10:
>>61149260
I could, but should I? AFAIK the Fulla 2 is enough for ~300Ω, and I really don't plan on upgrading my headphones any time soon after that, except to try out HD600s maybe. What else is better about it?

>>61151872
And while this looks interesting, can you sell me on a $300 amp/dac when there's a very highly reviewed $100 one which most people consider fantastic and easily end-game (with a possible amp upgrade to the Magni which I personally probably won't need)?

K7XX OR HD6XX?????????????????????????

>>61152216
HD6XX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>61152059
>And while this looks interesting, can you sell me on a $300 amp/dac

You'll get the most out of your HD6XX that way. The Fulla 2 will output only 40mW into the 6XX, as it's USB powered, and distorts at higher volumes. It'll sound okay on it at lower volumes, but it's still not ideal. I'd rather buy something nice and future-proof to save money in the long run, but that's just me. I'm not advocating that you spend thousands on an amp and dac, only a few hundred. My HD650 really sounds great on my NFB-11 compared to how it did with the sound card I was using before.

>>61152059
>>61152357
I forgot to mention, you will also want more power available for when you EQ. For example when you've got -8 dB set in your pre-amp, you're going to need to crank that volume knob on your amp quite a bit further.

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Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>61152216
HD6xx, unless you've got HD600 or HD650 already, in which case k7xx.

>>61152357
>>61152412
I've been told before that for sane listening Fulla 2 should be just fine, and you'll only really need more volume if listening to really quiet source material (which I've never done yet, and am unlikely to do). I also don't think I'll be spending too much time messing around with EQ or whatever to be honest.

Also if it's just a question of power, the Fulla 2 can be kept as a DAC and a dedicated amp (Magni or Magni Uber, for instance) can be used to boost power, and I've seen this recommended quite a bit. This is either cheaper or the same as the NFB-11, and also allows incremental upgrading - letting me decide whether I actually need more power or not before spending money on that.

Would you still recommend the NFB over doing that? If so, why? I don't want to sound accusative or anything, I'm genuinely curious since I'm not too knowledgeable about these things.

>>61152059
There's a huge fan of the nfb-11 around here. I honestly think the device is still too untested, and generally recommend the fulla2 (upgradable to fulla2+magni2 stack). It costs $100 and it is extremely useful, even if you felt like spending money in nfb-11 or jotunheim or schiit uber stack or something else in the future, due to its form factor and the fact it's usb powered.

>>61152535
And to add to >>61152535, there's also the FX Audio DAC-X6, great value / price but as it's wallwart powered and bigger, it's not as nifty as the Fulla 2.
In any event, I suggest against spending $300 on your first amp, and recommend making your first amp a small, usb-powered dac+amp, for maximum usefulness.

>>61152561
Speaking of the DAC X6, how does it compare to the Fulla? I honestly don't care about form factor as I'm not going to be carrying it around and I have a decent enough amount of room on my desk. Otherwise, they seem to be the same price (with the X6 actually being slightly cheaper here in the UK) and yet seems to have ever so slightly better specs.

>>61152535
Well the way I see it, it's about getting the most value to your dollar. But I can see from your point of view that something like the NFB-11 is quite a bit to be paying up-front when this is just your entry into the hobby. I still think it's a good idea, if you can afford it. If you feel more comfortable starting out with the Fulla 2, with a plan to upgrade if need be, go for it.

>>61152623
Some reviews mention the dac coloring the sound to be warmer than usual.

>>61152653
Yeah that's probably what I'll do. Thing is, I don't intend to be "entering this hobby" - I just want to upgrade from my entry-level stuff I've got right now (my main PC uses a soundblaster z card for crying out loud - yes I was young and stupid) and get a better experience, without ever spending too much additional money unless I need to replace something.

>>61152701
>the dac
I assume you mean the DAC-X6, right? I got confused for a moment because the fulla is also a dac.
Anyway since, like I said, I'm really unlikely to want very high volumes in the foreseeable future I'll just stick to my original choice of Fulla then, and get a magni if I ever need it.

Why every time i buy a headphone, he has ALWAYS a bad contact which results in making sound only in one side of headphone.
How could I avoid this ?

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NewEgg has Senn HD471G for $40, but it has no store reviews. Anyone tried?

>>61152722
>Thing is, I don't intend to be "entering this hobby" - I just want to upgrade from my entry-level stuff I've got right now

Okay, well I hope you enjoy your 6XX, Anon. By the way, I recommend buying this over the DAC-X6 and Fulla 2: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=120&cp_id=12008&cs_id=1200801&p_id=11567

>>61150931
>wireless
>decent
Impossible, I've listened to wireless cans costing over $300 and they sound like shit even when compared to my HM5s

>>61152728
Do you mean it happens eventually to the headphones you buy?

>>61152865
It happens approximately after 6 months

>>61152929
It's the cable going bad. Buy headphones with a detachable cable so you can replace the cable when that happens. That way, you don't have to replace the entire headphone.

>>61152728
Maybe stop buying disposable headphones, and get some HD600.

>>61152770
Hm, this does look tempting. Some people say it's even better than a magni/modi stack, and that's while being at half the price of one.

I do have to pay $46 shipping, but amazingly it's still slightly cheaper than just buying Fulla 2 directly (assuming I don't get hit with surprise customs tax or anything like that). Is there a catch? Or is shiit actually overpriced despite all their talk of cutting unnecessary costs and avoiding audiophile markup?

If it's really that good then I'm definitely going to consider it, because with an external power source and a speaker output it's more versatile. Now I don't know if I'll notice any difference on my pair of $10 logitech speakers but at least it will provide placebo, at no extra cost.

Where to buy 53mm drivers? (with international shipping)

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There's no denying this

>>61152947
Thank you ! I didn't know headphones with a detachable cable.

>>61152957
I would like.. but it is not my budget...

>>61150775
>preferably neutral, i dont mind slight bass or treble boost but would rather have a decent soundstage and flat responds than having nigger bass in my face

Campfire Lyra II. You want decent staging so you would want to look at a dynamic/BA hybrid.

>>61153100
>I would like.. but it is not my budget...
The HD6xx on massdrop are $200 right now. They're basically rebranded HD650.

This may still be above your budget, but ask yourself, how many headphones have you replaced already? It sounds like quite a few, maybe 4-5? Even if you were buying low-end $40 ones, you already probably spent around $200 or more. But you had horrible sound quality, and had to replace them often.

Get the HD6xx and you will get one of the best pairs of headphones that exist, and they will last you a lifetime.

>>61153241
>and they will last you a lifetime

*plastic snapping*

>>61153254
*new headband being bought and replaced by hand with minimal effort*

Also if you have such a huge head you can stretch them out to prevent snapping.

>>61153241
I will think about it... Thank you

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poorfag here, i'm looking for some in-ears, i've been looking through guides and the wiki for the past hour or so but i'm in Greece and the options are extremely limited.
Of all the recommendations on the guides I found the mee audio m6p (former meelectronics?) for 28eu (~32$), should I go get them?
I've been buying shitty earbuds for years because I use them a lot and they all break like >>61152728 described after some time, but I've seen these recommended a lot and apparently durability is their selling point, are they worth the extra bucks? I'm not very demanding sound-wise, I'm currently listening on some samsung earbuds and I'm loving the sound, so I guess any decent in-ear will be good enough.

I'm looking to replace my recently broken Expensive Mistake(tm) with a sturdier, easy-to-repair headphone for my computer.
I've got about 150 Eypos, microphone's not a big deal now. What really matters is that they have good build quality and fairly insulated (possibly closed over-ear).
Use is mostly general with lots of movie/animoo watching and occasional vidjaegames.

>>61153511
dt 770

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>>61152504
Fellow weeb unite. :3

>>61153585
Don't really use headphones these days (current top IEM >>> current top headphones). I have a pair of Genelec 8020 and Fostex HP-A4BL for desktop use.

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How are these? R these gud?

>>61153532
The non-detatchable cable kind of turns me off, despite looking like good headphones.

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Less than 100 HD6xx left available.

my K702s have been pretty abused by me since it became my beater headphones.

I need to revive it but I can't find any replacement earpads (and whatever the driver cover is called too). Finding a mini xlr cable should be a bit easier since I see some options already off amazon.

Do I have to resort to ebay or somewhere else shady

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>>61152216
K7xx

>>61153753
Easy to do a detachable cable mod, otherwise there's the beyer custom studio

Hifiman edition S open/closed backed headphones for $130, a good pick up?
Could also grab a pair of HD598s for $100

Just looking for something new to listen to.

HD6XX are done

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>>61155286
how many of you got one?

Just got LCD-2 and its supposed to be a "dark" headphone? Sounds way brighter than AKG K712

>>61155343
I already have the superior HD800.

>Budget
50-100 euro's max
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Samson Meteor Mic, Samsung Galaxy S4, Generic Laptop
>Type of headphone
Stuck between over-ear ones and IEM's
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy, but I can compromise
>Sound signature
Warm-Neutral
>Past headphones
Turtle Beach trash, Generic usb gaming trash and the Superlux HD681 EVO in that order.


I was looking at the Audio Technica M40x. Was wondering whether they really worth their price tag.

I am looking that's portable for both home(vidya) and stuff when doing work in my college on my laptop. Willing to compromise on a few things here and there. Ideally a upgrade from the Superlux ones.

>>61155443
How's the treble and bass on these? I heard they were really bright. Does it not bother you at all?

>>61155343
I put in the order but then cancelled it cause they're ugly ad and I'm not poor. Gonna cop a HD650 instead and swap the driver's with my HD600.

>>61155668
M40x are good but i don't think they are warm. They will also require you to put HM5 pads on, the stock ones are godawful. You'll end up paying approx 120€.

>>61155668
HM5

>>61153043
plz

What's the deal with Multibit?
There's a Modi 2, a Modi 2 Uber and a Modi 2 MULTIBIT

>>61153098
It's like a pound of clamping force you fucking pussy, get over it.

>>61150534
do i need to get a new amp for my k7xx? using the fiio e10k

>>61155736
Without mods or EQ, the treble is indeed hot specifically in the 5-6 kHz region. Nothing an EQ couldn't solve though.

Bass is very clean and detailed, a big improvement from HD600/650 whose bass tends to sound one-note and bleed into the midband. If I want to nitpick, the bass lacks punch.

With the resonator mod recently released, it elevates the HD800 into another level since it solves both the treble and bass issues. The mod is a must have for HD800 users.

>>61155911
Multibit simply sounds different than the normal one, at least if we're talking about the Schiit stuff. Very easy to A/B if you have both units in hand.

>>61156096
>solves both the treble and bass issues
Does it really? From my research that would basically make them near-perfect, and most probably the best headphone in existence.

Out of curiosity, what amp/dac and stuff do you use?

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>>61156139
>DACs make a difference in sound quality

>Budget
$200
>Location
USA
>Source
Samsung S7 phone
>Type of headphone
Fully wireless earbuds
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible
>Past headphones
Senhizer Momentums, one of the best pair of headphones I've ever used

I'm looking for just an every day use pair. Currently looking at Sol Republic air amps. Might pull the trigger on those if i don't find anything else. I don't want to spend to much, becuase knowing myself there's a good chance I might loose them.

>>61156156
Not sure it's the best headphone ever but I'd venture the HD800 is hard to beat at its current $900-ish price. It's lightweight and comfortable to wear as well, the suede material of the earpad and earband don't heat up at all with prolonged use.

I have Apex Arete solid-state as amp and Schiit Modi Multibit as DAC.

http://www.apexhifi.com/Arete.htm

>>61156139
Call the electric company. You have issues with your grounding.

>>61156369
>Fully wireless earbuds
don't

>>61156369
HD600

>>61156401
What's wrong with wireless IEMs?

>>61155911
There's some info on that shit in this:
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/

Very well received, supposedly sounds awesome, but measurements say it should sound the same. Magic stuff.

I'm slightly interested, but advice is to wait and see after n years, rather than try it yourself. If you need further arguments against buying, consider it adds latency due to the n-tap filter it implements. A few milliseconds do not matter, but if you play games, it's easy to be uncomfortable with the idea.

>>61156175
What emotion is this post meant to convey?

stop fucking shilling the HD600

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What is the second best headphone in the world behind the HD600 and why are Beyerdynamic and AKG headphones treble cannons with shitty build quality?

>>61156715
Rule 11- Advertising (all forms) is not welcome

>>61156749
>people with different opinions than me must be paid shills
Did you forget your meds?

>>61156781
HD600 is paid Sennshilling.

>>61156139
>Multibit simply sounds different than the normal one
I see you got a defective unit.

HD558 worth at 90$ amazon or can I get it elsewhere for cheaper?

>>61156869
I haven't seen them cheaper elsewhere but it doesn't hurt to look. They're a fantastic value at $90.

>>61156869
SHP9500 > M40x + HM5 > HD558.

>>61156715
Sound is subjective. The dt990 can be had for like $120 on ebay. Cheapest you'll see a hd600 is like 240 on amazon. I love my dt990s and they are very good for the price.
After hearing the fostex THX wooden $400 headphones though I would do anything to have them I have never heard anything like that before. I'm trying to find a headphone I can afford that sounds similar. They truly and completely blew me away.

>>61156909
You've got that backwards m8.

>>61156093
No

>>61156924
>wooden headphones
you can't make this shit up
Are they powered by sunlight too?

>>61156924
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/ enjoy your hearing loss.

>>61156939
>his headphone is not powered by nuclear energy

>>61156946
We all know you posted that thread, tard.

>>61156946
>>61156946
hahaha you fucking shill. I've been using them for 4 years with no negative effects on my hearing.
You have spend twice as much to get a sennheiser that can compete with the dt990. Beyerdynmics are strictly superior to sennheiser.

>>61156909
>SHP9500
No bass.
>M40x + HM5
Closed, so not direct competitors to HD558. Aside from closed generally sounding inferior to open due to more bass resonance, those have inferior frequency responses to the 558.
HD558 is the best full sized headphone I can recall to have been sold for under $100.
>y-you must be a shill
Yes. I'm shilling discontinued headphones; headphones that it doesn't matter to Sennheiser if they get sold by resellers or not since Sennheiser already sold all of their stock to resellers by now. That makes perfect sense.

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>>61156939

I used to think $40 was a lot for a pair of headphones. Now I want a $900 one.

I don't even listen to music

>>61156715
>What is the second best headphone in the world behind the HD600
HD580

>>61157033
you would be surprised how many people in /mkg/ cant touch type

>>61157033
Then hold off your purchase, take the time to enjoy music and educate yourself on audio. Maybe you'll see the value in whatever pair it is you are looking for. Or perhaps you will be wiser and pick something else.

>>61157046
I don't even look at my keyboard or do home rows and I still manage 110WPM
Typing is a meme.

>>61157046
Judging by all the sennheiser shills, most people here can't hear either. So not surprising.

>>61156926
HD558 are the worst of those three.

>>61157011
>buy beyers or X2, great bass!
>hurr muh niggerbass you nigger durr
>buy SHP9500
>hurr no bass i want bass durr

This general has been truly reduced to a platform for Sennheiser shills to advertise their shit.

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How do you people not get tired of jacking off over products and brands?

>>61157091
How do you not get tired of jacking off over cartoon children?

>>61157046
Define touch-typing. I use about 7 fingers but I don't look at my keyboard. Anyway I'm waiting until I get the time to build my own split ortholinear then I'll learn proper colemak

I think the advantage of /mkg/ is that even when you go full meme like that it's hard to spend more than about $350 on a single keyboard.

>thread going nice and peacefully, everyone helping each other out
>the anti-Sennheiser autist shows up
>thread immediately devolves into shit-flinging
Every time.

>>61157106
>"helping each other out" is recommending HD600s to people asking for closed headphones
>only one person ever could possibly not like sennheiser and the inane shillery that goes on
Every time.

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>>61157106
>the anti-Sennheiser autist
>all people who disagree with me are one person
Nice autism.

>>61157118
Good question. I would consider being able to type at a speed that does not hinder you on the computer with out looking at the keyboard being able to touch type.
There are an insane amount of "hunt and peckers" or whatever they are called.

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>>61157104
>children
I'm not into those, drawn or not. I like some erotic manga and doujinshi. I mix it up with other stuff if I feel like jacking off in the first place. I hope that clears it up for you.

Now answer the question:
>How do you people not get tired of jacking off over products and brands?

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>>61157126
this
he's been ruining these threads for years just ignore him

>>61157164
Fuck off, TrustyFucks. You're the one ruining threads.

>>61156812
>HD600 is paid Sennshilling.
People believe this?

Don't ever recommend Snapheiser mudheisers in my thread ever again.

>>61157142
By your definition there are also large amounts of hunt-and-peck touch typists, especially on mkg

>>61157173
Nope, the autistic senntards do it for free.

>>61157038
The correct answer, for once!

>>61157171
Silly goose

>>61157164
>>61157171
You guys talk as if CG's Beyeremorse vs mudheiser was never a thing, how new are you?

Hey /g/, any amp+DAC combo recommendations for my Phillips Fidelio X2s? Also, in the future I'd like to get the Senns HD650

Budget is $200 at max but I'd rather it to be below the $150 mark

>>61157266
This comes up every five minutes and your options are either Fulla 2, DAC X6, or Monoprice (https://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=120&cp_id=12008&cs_id=1200801&p_id=11567#)
You could also spend about your max budget or a bit more and get a Magni 2+Modi 2 stack.

>>61157033
Sorry but this sounds retarded son

>>61157142
>>61157197
A touch typist is someone who can use a keyboard with blank keycaps as he would normally with markers. Speed is a whole different matter.

Does Windows sound better than Linux?

>>61157345
Both can handle audio just fine, anon.

>>61157345
Loonix doesn't even have hd audio

>>61157288
Different anon here, I've seen people say there's literally no difference in sound between magni+modi and monoprice. The monoprice also has speaker output and costs at least twice as cheap, even cheaper than fulla2 (while having more power than it due to external DC input).

Is there a catch? Does it have shit build quality or something? Is the sound actually shit, or becomes really shit in certain conditions? I was eyeing a fulla but having seen this I'm now really undecided. Once the 300Ω HD6xx's ship, the Fulla would be just on the edge of what could be considered enough, so if this is better, cheaper, more powerful, has more connections, it seems too good to be true.

>>61157502
You on drugs?
Where did you get that stupid idea.

>>61157515
The best audio you can get is 480p anon. That's not HD

>>61157526
Yet loonix handles 4K audio?

>>61157526
you dont even hear that many fps

are u guys gonna get mad if I have the hd 600s

>>61153098
>2.5N
>strong clamp

Nice shitposting you fucking retard, even the DT880 Premium has 2.8N.

>>61157570
No, just don't shill about how they're 'extremely neutral' or 'best headphones'

>>61157617
I don't think you understand what "to shill" means.

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MrSpeakers MadDogs. They're fuckin heavy. I've got the lohb strap too and it doesn't ease the weight. Anyone got a comparable $250-350 headphone that doesn't weigh nearly as much?

>>61150775
ER4XR

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>>61157643
Good

>>61157579
>DT880 Premium
You can easily bend the headband of those. Try that on Snapheisers.

>>61156421
Those are neither wireless, nor Earbuds, are you okay?

>>61156369
Jaybird X3

>>61157288
>Fulla 2
how about this one? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A2QLPJM/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I35TXHNX1YFR92&colid=32BD5FV48BLTR

HD600 are the best headphones in the world and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>61157781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U = clamp and headband snapping solved

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>>61157617
They're extremely neutral and the best full-sized headphones.

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>>61157894
Boi, if you dont

>>61157868
Nice way to not snap your heisers but construction is still shit. How old is the HD series? 20 years? Snapheiser should have updated their design.
I expect premium materials and design on headphones past 300 shekels.

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>>61153495
So, I ended up getting them after all. They turned out pretty great, I'm having some trouble fitting them but I've always had that problem with in-ears, and thankfully they've got a bunch of different tips so I'll be alright.
However, that BASS man. Jesus christ. I turned off every EQ and effect on my phone and it's still powerful as all hell. I'm slowly becoming accustomed to it, but damn, earbuds ain't got nothing on in-ears in that department. I've got some EDM playing and I'm losing my mind over here.

>>61157667
Fostex T-X0

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>>61157920
Those are very good for their price range, but they have poor bass extension and are temporarily outclassed in their price range by HD558 until HD558 stock runs dry.

>>61157959
Glad to hear you like them, you could always look into foam eartips and spinfits if you want more comfortable eartips.

>>61157981
You're not wrong there, senpai.

>>61157959
Hoo boy, I can't wait for the day you splurge on a good pair of over-ear headphones.

>>61158033
IEM's

Can someone explain On-Ear to me? I just can't understand why the fuck ANYONE would buy On-Ear when Over-Ear exists.

Anyone here who has experience with this chink audio-gd thing? Are they good/reliable? How do they compare to Schiit?
I'm interested in buying the NFB-11 but couldn't find conclusive reviews. Some say it's great, some say it's nothing special and some report driver issues on wangblows which i'm forced to use due to college and work.
NFB-11: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFN1128/NFB1128EN.htm

>>61158515
Some people are willing to sacrifice comfort and seal for appearance with regards to public use headphones.

>>61158515
Smaller than over-ear, but with similar driver sizes as over ear with all of the benefits a larger driver provides. Downside is that they're usually less comfy and still not as portable as IEMs.

>>61158585
I've got HD 25's on right now as I'm going home. They're pretty comfy after the first week. Isolation's better than the over ears and IEM's I've tried so far.

>>61158605
>less comfy
What an understatement... and furthermore, they're significantly less durable.

>>61158671
Durability is not inherent in the form factor. To say they're usually less durable is true though, but on average they're also significantly cheaper. KSC75s are quite comfortable.

>>61158524
I dunno, but the way you buy it is shady as fuck.

>send an email with what you want to buy
>they'll send you a quote and an order number
>go to their Paypal and write the order number in the comments field
>wait a month for it to ship in

>>61158922
There are two resellers in Poland and Netherlands, both are slightly more expensive, i'm more concerned about product quality.

How come IEMs are so good when they are so fucking piss-small

>>61157920
>design 2

Might just be a filename but I noticed the SHP9500s have new packaging, did they change anything?

So /g/, you just got a brand new 4000 dollar pair of cans. What's the first song you put on to feel the magic?

>>61159730
>$4000
Nah

>>61159730
>sell them
>get superior HD600s instead
>profit $3,600+

>>61157981
HD 558s have mud-tier bass. No thanks.

>>61159743
>>61159849

I guess my point didn't come off as clear as I'd imagined. Focus is on
>What's the first song you put on to feel the magic?

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>>61159952
Any tips how should I attach my mic from old headset to these?

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>>61159988
Mic is like this.

>>61159730
>>61159952
>sell them
>get superior HD800s instead
>profit $3,200+
Also music? I don't listen to music. I'd put them on my $70 stand, post here about how much of an audiophile I am, then go watch minecraft let's plays or something.

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>>61159924
>HD 558s have mud-tier bass
"No."

>>61156578
Jesus, it's just 250 bucks.

>>61159730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZIP2IbAI8

>>61159730
Whatever I've been listening to a lot lately at that particular moment. It's what I'd be most familiar with at the moment hence the best choice for evaluating sound.

>HD800 price is slowly creeping up

Fuck stop buying them you cunts.

>>61156924
shiieeet I just recently ordered a pair of Mahogany TH-X00's off ebay for $290. I'm so anxious to get them

>>61155911
multibit uses r-2r ladder dacs -vs- delta sigma.

think a bunch of siwitched resistors to convert the digital data to analog.

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>>61155343
I left behind my 558 and porta pro back home so I have just momentums to use until I receive the 6xx maybe next year.
Currently checking out the schiit magni 2. (Would I even need a dac?)
Anyone else got a recommendation for an amp to drive the 6xx?

>>61160796
En Francais?

>>61160111
>"No"
Quit using frequency graphs as "proof" anon.

sup /g/

are the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro as good as they say? I'm using Sony MDR-XB500 at the moment, been using them since 2013 but i want something better. Budget is 100-150 euro (i can get 990 Pro on amazon for 140 at the moment)

>>61161123
OK. I'll use subjective anecdotal reports then.
HD558 bass is solid and crisp, without muddiness, and is much better than the bass response of DT880, K702 or K712, which are tinny and veiled sounding.

>>61161189
250ohm vesion is pretty good is you like v-shaped sound but the highs can get sibilant in some ocassions

>>61161189
DT990 are terrible headphones with niggerbass, excessive treble and no midrange that will cause hearing loss https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/
Get HD558 while they're still ridiculously cheap and enjoy having your bass, mids and highs all balanced sounding.

>>61161201
>HD 558s
>Crisp
Lmao. That's enough shilling for you today, Tyrone. We can end this here before it gets too out of hand, OK?

>>61161189
>are the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro as good as they say?
theyre shit

>>61161189
Excellent for gaymen and movies, for music it depends. Treble can be too much depending on your sensitivity, quality of recording and the actual music.
For 100-150 you can also get DT 770 which are closed and similar. They have more bass (excellent low-end with sub-bass) and appear less harsh because of that.
250 Ohm version may need an amp, my PC can power them without any issues but older/cheaper onboard can run into some issues. Whatever you do, don't get the 32 Ohm version.

>>61161225
>That same fucking Head-Fi thread
Begone.

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Friends don't let friends buy Beyerdynamics. The ear raping treble is real.

>>61161274
>Someone took the time to scour the internet for that one Beyersremorse pic.
Stop it, Jamal.

>>61161189

DT770, DT880 and DT990 are all bad sounding headphones with way too much treble. DT770 and DT990 also have negrobass.

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>>61161274
>i like muddy veiled headphones that snap on my head

>>61161222
>>61161225
>>61161258
Thanks for the replies. Yes of course i meant the 250 ohm model. I'm not really into heavy bass music anymore, so something with less bass could be still ok. I did heard of the shit midrange, but the hearing loss danger is news to me.

How are HD598? Price for that is 160 euro as right now

Anyway i want it to be an open back headphone, i want that level of immersion

>>61161318
No no no, good goy! Sennheiser can do no wrong! Their build and sound quality is as good as the toilet I worship in my backyard!

I'm looking for some headphones to complement my hd650, i'm between the Philips X2, akg K712 and hifiman 400S/i
Which one should i get?

>>61161342
>Price for that is 160 euro as right now
I've seen it at 99€ before, on sales.
Don't get the HD598, look into the "special edition" se/sr variants (not cs) if you must, they're the same but black color and extra cables.
Just keep in mind the HD579 is a much better headphone, and doesn't cost that much.

>>61161342
>HD 598
At least go with the 599s or 579s, anon.

>>61157126
>>61157164
I think he's the worst shitposter I have ever seen in 13 years of 4chan browsing. He's fucking worse than anti-crack-kun.

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>>61161274
>>61161302

>>61161342
>>61161365
>>61161366
I heard the 558s are almost as good as the 598s, and can have the pads or something modded to basically sound identical

I cba to look up the current price but I know I got them for like $100 or so a couple years ago

>>61159730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WA4D37cpuU

>>61161342
I would highly recommend HD558 for an incredible bargain right now. They sound almost identical to the HD598 and the measurements prove this. HD558 were traditionally ~$150 before they were discontinued but now they're under $100 after being discontinued while they're still in stock. Both the HD558 and HD598 present a nice balance of bass, mids and treble.
http://en.goldenears.net/12270
http://en.goldenears.net/8494
As you can see they measure almost identically. The 598 is a waste of money; the 558 is the way to go.

>>61161201
>HD558
>solid bass
>DT880, K702
>Tinny and veiled

You from bizarro world?

>>61161393
Lmao, no. Quit listening to those shills. May as well fall for the 518 meme having the same drivers while you're at it.

>>61161342
>>61161393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kJ7sN16qw this mod will make the HD558 sound identical to the HD598, but it's really unnecessary anyways, as the measurable difference between the two headphones only amounts to a measly couple decibels of lower treble response.

>>61161409
Seconded. Either go HD558 or HD579.
HD598 is almost the same as HD598, and HD599 is a more boomy/colored version of HD579 and costs more to top it off.

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>sometimes I pretend to be a Beyerdynamic shill
>other times I pretend to be a Sennheiser shill
>every time /hpg/ falls for the bait and the thread goes to shit

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>>61161450
I upgraded your .gif for you.

>>61161450
You too dude? Lmao.

>>61161450
Indeed Anon, indeed...

>>61161450
Shitposting is all part of the ride, dear anon. /hpg/ would literally have nothing to do without shitposting to keep them entertained. I applaud you.

Is planar bass a meme?
What would be a good, neutral, under $400 planar headphone?

>>61161487
HD 600

>>61161487
Don't listen to the other anon, beats by dre.

>>61161393
HD579 is the cheap HD600; nice if you like to fap to detail. Favored by autists.
HD599 is the younger brother of HD650; slightly colored, nice if you like to fap to oh it sounds so good. Favored by normies.

>>61161342
>but the hearing loss danger is news to me
Bullshit. There's no such thing unless you're stupid enough to listen at a retarded volume level and then you'll experience hearing loss regardless of which headphone you're using.
Both the DT990 and DT770 are fine but if you're not into bass heavy music anymore or V-shaped headphones anymore than you should look into something different.
HD598 have neither bass nor treble, imo they are dull, overpriced trash and not good for anything at all.
I'd say SHP9500 if you can find them, in europe they are either gone or being sold for like 150€. Still good headphones for that price, but they originally cost like 90€, i think.

>>61161510
Or you could get DT 880 which is made in Germany and has better sound quality.

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>>61157171
>Still remembered after all these months
I never did mean to shitpost, but when I did, it felt good man.

>>61161501
I've listen the beats, they're almos as bad as the hd600

>>61161532
Randomly accusing people of being TrustyFucks/anti-TrustyFucks always gets a rise out of 'em. Thanks for your good work, senpai.

http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-558.php
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-579.php
HD579 appear to be a V-shaped, less balanced variant of HD558/598. I can't recommend it based on this.

>>61161528
>Bullshit. There's no such thing unless you're stupid enough to listen at a retarded volume level and then you'll experience hearing loss regardless of which headphone you're using.
To the contrary, it's easy to make that mistake because it's hard to evaluate the volume of treble. It might sound a little loud but good, and yet, because the treble is so over the top, it does stealthily damage your hearing.
Don't play with your health.

>>61161563
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-599.php Same goes for HD599; also appears to be a more V-shaped variant. I'm disappointed in Sennheiser for Beyerizing their sound. Mids are love; mids are justice.

I've decided to shill out some money towards higher quality headphones, and i have no idea what is good or not. You guys seem like you know some stuff:

>Budget
$100 - $150
>Location
US
>Source
generic IBM thinkpad sound card or generic mixer connected to my turntable with a cheap needle or (probably never) out of my samsung galaxy s6.
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Comfort level
Extreme
>Sound signature
Neutral, i dislike a lot of bass and hate shitty highs
>Past headphones
Generic $12 earbuds

Thanks

>>61161274
Tried a friend's DT1990 today.

Possibly one of the worst headphones I've ever heard. To make it not sound like shit, you have to listen on super low volumes. Medium volumes and higher, it's extremely sibilant.

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>>61161607
HD558; ignore the fact they're slightly below your budget right now as they were traditionally ~$150 before they became discontinued.

>>61161607
i also would perfer closed drivers

>>61161563
>>61161600
Try comparing them to
http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/hp/sennheiser-hd-600.php
Instead.
They're much closer to HD600 than the HD598 was, and that's the correct reference, not the inferior HD558.

>>61161628
>closed
>neutral
>$100 - $150
lol

>>61161487
No, planars have the fastest bass around

>>61161580
>it's hard to evaluate the volume of treble
The fuck are you talking about. Is everyone here deaf?

>>61161644
Cb-1

>>61161647
>fast

>>61161628
>closed drivers
>neutral
ayy

>>61161607
HM5/XPT100

>>61161632
They do not compare favorably to HD600 at all based on that measurement. The HD600 there shows a small midbass hump and a 7-8 dB treble peak (which is only a peak because that site uses a truly bizarre compensation curve). The 579 and 599 show large midbass humps and a 12 dB treble peak. That graph shows that the 579 and 599 are considerably V-shaped compared to 558, 598 and 600.
Also, comparing them to 558/598 makes more sense than to HD600 as the 579 and 599 use the same headphone shape as the 558/598.

>>61161625
Thanks, they are open (sorry i dont know my stuff >>61161644) but I think they look good.

>>61161668
He's braindamaged, the clampheiser must have pressed to hard on his head

>>61161697
The shape of the 558 through 3k to 7k is horrifying.

>>61161674
I mean, yeah, that's probably as close as he's going to get, but measurements suggest they're a tad dark with a bit of an upper midrange and lower treble deficiency.

>>61161711
If you're referring to the Reference Audio Analyzer graph, they use a really fucked up compensation curve which I don't think they've actually published but one can tell comparing their measurements to those from websites that do publish their compensation curves that it's fucked up. RAF's graphs are only useful for 20-1000 Hz response and for comparing headphone responses to one another when they've measured both headphones.

>>61161647
Any recomendations?

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Idol trash here. Let's enjoy some idols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeh_sxL_ahY

STAX Earspeaker meme?

>>61161832
Best headphones for idol trash?

>>61161865
HD600, obviously.

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>>61161865
Idol trash favor HD600, as it does female vocals particularly well.

>>61161396
This is actually fantastic. I almost fapped to this in my 558s. Can't wait to listen to this in december when the bootleg 650s ship

That said,
>great piece of music
>suddenly 2:24
>worldsloudestorgasm.mp4
Why

>>61158524
I own the 2015 model. This one: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB112014/NFB112014EN.htm

It's excellent. It's quite a bit better than a Schiit Modi 2 Uber/Magni 2 Uber stack, and costs only a little bit more. The ordering process is a little strange, but they have their reasons for it, since they're confirming orders beforehand while dealing with international customers. Once you confirm your order and pay for it, they build it by hand for you. You're not just buying one that's sitting around after coming off an assembly line. It's worth the wait for it, and it comes with a 10 year warranty for free repairs.

The only issues it had were with the installation of the USB-32 drivers on Windows 10. All you have to do is follow these steps: https://pastebin.com/MdDZQ2Xk

On the new model, the NFB-11.28, they made the switch to Amanero instead of the USB-32, which is supposed to be more compatible. I'm relatively sure you don't have anything to worry about with it.

>>61158922
They actually send you the PayPal invoice for it after confirming your order via email. There's nothing shady about it, it's just out of the ordinary, and since you're paying through PayPal there's nothing to worry about.

>>61161859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R869ABpfdaM

Zeos loves his Stax

I got Superlux HD668b and it's making my head hurt really bad because I wear glasses. What do I do? Are there any pads which are good with glasses? Or do I just get a monocle?

>>61161879
Nope, it's cause idolshit is mastered like complete garbage and notreble HD600 let's you somewhat ignore that.

>>61161930
>>61157894
>notreble

>>61161937
>shitty compensation curves

>>61161930
Umi disagrees. >>61152504
Her voice is wasted on anything other than the HD600.

>>61161912
buy meme?

>>61161962
>shit girl liking shit headphones
Who'da thunk?

>>61161912
>Zeos
Loves (shills) everything he tests.

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Gotta love chink translations

>>61161985
>not loving umi and HD600
You're the one with shit taste, Anon.

>>61161607
MDR 7506 + Auray Sheep Skin Pads + EQing the treble to your liking.

>>61162008
Umi is a slut and whore worse than honk's VA

>>61161988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UrKy1EuO0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWnsB__VMMQ

But that's wrong.

>>61161991
Lolwut, they could have looked it up. Kek.

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>>61161957
GE's old compensation curve (the one that the HD600 graph was compensated with and the one in the image here) was actually close to perfect, and would have been perfect without the bass boost.

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>>61161925
I'm using Samson SR950 velour pads on mine. HUGE improvement over stock and better than chink K240 velours. Probably HM5 Hybrid or Brainwavs round velours. The Brainwavs rounds are only available from their site.

>>61161888
>888
The gods approve your post, that was actually really helpful, appreciate it.
I read about the driver issues i think on head-fi where people bought the updated version of the NFB-11. The issue seems to be still there unless i missed something.
I'm from EU, did you have to pay some import tax/customs/whatever where you live? Shipping would be DHL if that matters.

>>61162041
>its perfect cause it matches my headphones
kek

>>61162028
85% of the site is probably machine translated. It's not too far off the mark, either (if you don't count the acronym not exactly matching up)

>>61162020
hey fuck you faggot, Umi is pure
the only one who is a slut is your mom

>>61162020
Anon, you've read too many doujin. And I can understand, because umi.
But remember umi is canon pure. Even more so than the other μ's.
>honk's VA
It's ok. Honk herself is pure. Even the doujin do mostly agree with that one.
https://exhentai.org/g/995368/78196c86b2/

>>61162085
>>61162086
Fuck off niggers umi is shit girl second only to nico kotori is best girl and not a SLUT unlike ewww-mi

>>61162100
Why so much hate? All love lives are pure and adorable.
And re: kotori, have you seen these kotoumi doujin? There's some seriously good research material to go through.

DT 770 or sennheiser HD 559 for gayming?

>tfw you build your own headphones

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>>61162122

>>61162128
>DT770
Colored beyer garbage
>HD559
These are a nerfed HD558. Either get HD558 (really good value right now) or go for something higher like HD598 or HD579.

>>61151466
Bose qc 35

>>61162148
anime site faggot

>>61153014
>>61157510
Guys, please, anyone? I just want to decide what will drive my HD6xx. I have to make a choice before December, it's urgent!

In all seriousness though, I personally probably won't hear the difference with the $300 chink dac, so I just wanna know which $100-tier one to get. Is the monoprice legit?

>>61162177
>so I just wanna know which $100-tier one to get.
Either DAC-X6 or Fulla 2. The former has more features but is bigger and tied to a wallwart. The latter does less/different features, but is smaller, niftier and usb powered.

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>>61161957
>>61162041
GE's old compensation curve was very, very good. Certainly better than InnerFidelity's or Headroom's.

>>61162214
But I looked at the monoprice and on paper it does seem better than either. Is it a meme?

>>61161832
One for All does this very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF2XSB_naQw

>>61162169
Knitting board, newfaggot.

>>61162128
HD558

>>61162249
>trusting manufacturer specs
>on audio hardware

>>61162247
>>61162068

>>61162128
X2

>>61162288
Are you denying that the ER-4S is THE standard for balanced sound signature?

>>61162306
ER 4S is shit though.

>>61162306
Except wide variation of response depending on internal ear shape and depth of insertion.

>>61162313
>this opinion
Into the trash it goes.

>>61162066
>I read about the driver issues i think on head-fi where people bought the updated version of the NFB-11

When did you see those posts? They've been selling the NFB-11.28 for only 4 weeks now. Even if there's a similar issue like the USB-32 drivers I mentioned before, it's no big deal, and I'm 100% sure you'll be able to get it working.

I'm from the US, and only had to pay for shipping with DHL. Or I guess the price for shipping probably includes the import fees? I can't say for sure, since it's possible that the laws are different for you over there in the EU, but I didn't have to pay any additional fees after paying the price Audio-gd originally quoted me.

By the way, they're selling it at the discounted price of $299 for only the next few days, so don't think it over for too long.

>>61162330
Yeah, just like you're retarded ear dildos
Freak.

>>61162306
Er4xr is better

>>61162347
No. The ER-4S did not need niggerbass.

>>61162128
Easily the DT770. The are awesome for gaming and movies.
>people here recommend veiled mudheisers for gaming

>>61162354
Yeah, it needs to be thrown into a trashcan.

>>61162362
>no upper mids
Footsteps = upper mids. DT770 are some of the worst possible headphones for gaming.

>>61162347
Even etymotic's website specify ER4XR is a lesser IEM in favor of coloring.

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>tfw you're too comfy to care about who has better headphones

>>61162362
>recommending dt770 for gaming
>despite dt770 are absolute v-shaped garbage unsuitable for gaming.
Fuck off, beyershill.

>>61162334
>When did you see those posts?
Last few days, i'd have to search for the thread. Was your typical "my [whatever] arrived today its awesome/shit/doesntworkhelp me" thread.
From the posts i read the consensus sounded like it's awesome but has issues and build/QC is hit or miss. So.. idk about the whole thing.
US doesn't really compare. Guess i'll have to roll the dice with DHL if i get it.

>>61162411
>Inb4 HD 600s

>>61162401
Excellent taste on waifu and headphones.

>>61162362
Humans have evolved to have ears that boost frequencies around 3 kHz for survival in the wild; we're able to hear sounds necessary for our survival because of this. The DT770 are deficient in producing sounds in that area of the frequency range so they're poor headphones for directional cues in video games.

Has any of you tried the audeze isine10?

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Is this good for weeab purposes?

>>61162422
>HD600
>Reputable AF, released 1997 and widely loved.
>As neutral as over ear headphones get.
>Excellent reproduction of the original sound as intended.
>Good bass, midrange and treble.
>Known for their excellent soundstage and imaging, as verified by rtings.com.
>Perfect for gaming
Muh veil! snapheiser! beyers are great! They're made in Germany! /s

>>61162454
Muddy V-shaped garbage that isn't good for any purposes.

>>61162465
>Good bass

>>61162272
I read reviews too, some say it's on par with magni modi stack

>>61162378
DT770 are good for gaming, stop spreading shit. I have 990's which are similar and i can pin point everything.
For non-pro fun gaming they are even better because the combination of in your face bass and those highs will make everything sound alive.

>>61162411
>t. retard shill
>inb4 HD600 for gaming
TOPKEK

>>61162465
>Good bass
>Excellent soundstage and imaging
At least be more subtle, anon.

Might not be exactly the best place to ask but what's the best way to deal with multiple audio inputs and outputs?

>>61162465
>DT880
>Reputable AF, released 1980 and widely loved.
>As neutral as over ear headphones get.
>Excellent reproduction of the original sound as intended.
>Good bass, midrange and treble.
>Known for their excellent soundstage and imaging, as verified by rtings.com.
>Perfect for gaming
Muh treble! beyerhiss! sennheisers are great! They're endgame! /s

>>61162545
Soundboard or a proper full-sized DAC.

Balanced/neutral = patrician
Dark = average
V-Shaped = shit-tier
Bright = what in the actual fuck is this

>>61162419
I checked the last two pages of that head-fi thread, and the only people having driver issues are with the older models. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Even if you're hit with some import fee for some reason, it'll still be worth it. You can get $31 off the normal list price right now anyway.

By the way, there's a TCXO upgrade available for the DAC if you didn't see that already. It's not necessary, but it might be worth considering.

>>61162555
>released 1980
Imbecile. They reused the product name, but the ~2007 headphones have no relation whatsoever with the old model.
Similarly, everything else is wrong, because you copied and pasted it and it doesn't apply to DT880.
Fuck off, shitposter.

new thread

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>>61162565
So instead of the normal headphone ones look for a more serious one?

>>61162578
Planned getting one with the upgrade, if getting it at all. Seems to be a worthwhile investment, although being chink.

>>61162597
>shitposter
>obvious sennshilling

>>61162640
Assembled by chinks, yeah, but they actually don't build their stuff with chink parts.

>>61162709
As long as it's female chinks through a dance under the moonlight.

>>61162754
I'm sure it can be arranged.

>>61161396
Is there any high quality versions to test out my hd681 evo?

>>61159730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLTnvRoxfPk