/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

What's the best way to get os x style file previews in gnome?

>>61121723
Why does rms only wear red shirts?

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>>61121804
Not all my shirts are red or purple, but many are. I like those colors.

What does fglt think about non-Linux GNU distros?

GNU/Hurd, GNU/kFreeBSD, GNU/kNetBSD etc?

>>61121861
Hurd is interesting, but it will take some years till it's 100% usable, afaik current version is 0.9. Didn't try the BSD ports, but they seems to be just some rather useless experiments.

>>61121861
I've used GNU/Linux for long enough, I think, so how hard or easy would it be for me to try one of the BSD distros?

>>61121804

Not all my shirts are red or purple, but many are. I like those colors.

None of my shirts carry messages (such as words or symbols). That practice strikes me as lacking dignity, almost like being a sandwich man, so I won't wear clothing with symbols, not even for causes I support. This is not a matter of ethical disapproval, so I don't mind selling hats and shirts with free software slogans on behalf of the FSF; but I choose not to wear them myself.

>>61121861
Maybe one day Hurd will be a thing. I wish.

>>61121995
>tfw if you embroider TOP GNU on a baseball cap and mail it to rms he won't wear it

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>>61121861

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>>61121995
Sometimes I smile while being photographed because I feel happy.

Should I use Void or Arch for my x220?

>>61122245
void

I wish there was a tiling DE. I want the luxury of a fully featured DE but I can't be arsed to install it all manually.

>>61122316
Just replace whatever DE youre using with a tiling WM and bam you have what you wanted.

>>61122068
https://i.4cdn.org/g/1498557578843.jpg

>>61122364
did you just post a link to a picture on a imageboard?

>>61122361
Is it really this easy? Or do I have to do this again each time I update or something?

People who always complain about systemd, I don't understand it, why don't use just stop using it, and that's it.

You hate Windows? Good, just don't use it.
Why can't this be the case with systemd, or in fact, any software?

>>61121723
can someone explain this photo thx

>>61122361
You mean replace the WM in whatever DE he's using with a tiling one. Otherwise he won't get a full DE, which is what he wants.

>>61122389
You got banned on search engines or something?

>>61122383
Yes, no need to download it and the reupload it. Also it kept erroring when I tried doing that.

>>61122435
Install 4chanX, it lets you post from remote urls.

>>61122383
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/133/668/68.gif

>>61122449
No it doesn't, all that does is download the picture then reupload it. In fact, that's exactly what I tried doing.
What kind of fool uses 4chan without 4chanX?

Ring or Signal?

>>61122495
>requires Chrome and a phone number
Fuck that shit.
Definitely Ring.

>>61121723
Help me out /g/, I want a good DE, it doesn't have to be perfect but atleast something that is better than goddamn KDE and GNOME

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>>61122495
GNU Ring* actually

>>61122528
What don't you like about kde/gnome that might be fixed in other DEs?

>>61122413
The whole point is that we can't because systemd makes other things depend on it. "Don't like systemd? Don't use it!" becomes "Don't like systemd? Don't use gnome!". It nearly became "Don't use tmux!" too.

Other software projects don't press third party developers into adding hard dependencies for their software. Why can't this be the case with systemd?

>>61122413
I need pulseaudio, which has systemd as a dependency.

>>61122585
Why would software depend on it?
I mean, I can see GNOME, a whole DE, depending on it, but what about other software? They surely provide a

--disable-systemd

configure option.

>>61122574
I haven't really checked for that, I just find KDE to be bloated and Gnome works a bit redundant. Like if I'd compile and install a program, it wouldn't do .desktop the way I want it in the applications menu

>replying to redmumbai shills

>>61122425
Not him, but if I install another WM along with the WM that comes with my DE, the only change will be that I will get the option to log in through both WMs in the login screen, right?
So if I break something in the other WM, I can always switch back to the stock one.

>>61122657
what?

>>61122585
Install Gentoo, it uses OpenRC instead of systemd by default.

>>61122637
>I can see GNOME, a whole DE, depending on it
Do you really mean that? Do you think it makes sense that you should be forced to use a specific init system, DNS resolver, system logger, entropy gatherer and fuck if I remember what else just because you want to use a certain DE? Especially considering that before systemd came around gnome worked just fine regardless of the software you chose for each of those tasks.

>>61122657
Even if that particular poster turned out to be a shill, there are people lurking that are not shills and may believe the "arguments against systemd are just flat-earth lunacy" propaganda if not shown otherwise.

>>61122740
Thank you for the advice. I use Devuan myself. Still, that doesn't change the fact that distro maintainers shouldn't have to fork packages to remove hard dependencies on specific init systems, DNS resolvers, etc.

If there was a file called for example foo.txt, containing the text "test" in the current directory, and one ran the command

cat foo.txt > /dev/null

Why wouldn't that overwrite the /dev/null file with the text "test"?

(Sorry if this is a noob question).

dumb question here
I want to have a keyboard shortcut to run Synaptic in xfce. Typing 'sudo synaptic' works in the terminal but putting it as the shortcut doesn't work. What should I put to have it run an application as root?

>>61123021
is this a homework assignment?

>>61123075
You can create a shell script and put it in the desktop instead of the shortcut.

#!/usr/bin/sh
sudo synaptic;

>>61123100
Since when do they teach you how to use GNU/Linux at schools?
Nah, I'm just curious.

>>61123075
install a gui "sudo" like gksu and create a shortcut to "gksu synaptic" then start that.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61123162
mfks.reiser4 /dev/wife

>>61123181
For the uninitiated:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser

>>61123021
/dev/null is a "device file" that doesn't really exist, but acts as data sink; it discards all data written to it but reports that the write operation succeeded.
There's a little manpage: man 4 null

>>61123259
Can I create device files?

So I just ordered parts for a new computer, including AM4 motherboard and R5 1600. What distros come with Linux 4.10 or later as default? Or should I just compile it myself?

So far I've mostly been using *buntu, but I've been thinking of giving OpenSUSE a try.

>>61123162

telnet kirjava.xyz

>>61123162
grep is nice

>>61123275
Yes, the manpage shows an example.

>>61123275
with mknod I think

sudo apt-get install pv && PS1="" && clear && echo "Follow the white rabbit." | pv -qL 10 && sleep 9 && clear && echo "Knock, knock, Neo." | pv -qL 50

>>61123293
not OP
i love you.

>>61123404
tput setaf 2

>>61123404
Needs more green.
>>61123445
This.

I tried.

x="$PS1"; PS1=""; tput setaf 2 setab 0; clear; echo "Follow the white rabbit." | pv -qL 10; sleep 9; clear; echo "Knock, knock, Neo." | pv -qL 50; PS1="$x"; tput sgr0

>>61123608

; uset x;

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I can launch Terraria only when I run the game executable. There's a shell script supposed to run it, but it's not working because it can't find the executable. Can someone tell me how they fucked it up?

"Terraria" is in "./game/Terraria". How does the script not check the "game" directory?

>>61123699
It does cd to the game directory, what's the output you get?

>>61123293
it seems buggy

>>61123699
Unrelated, but what colorscheme are you using?

>>61123741

Running Terraria
./Terraria: line 38: ./Terraria.bin.x86: No such file or directory

>>61123751

I made it myself. I tried to recreate the Kugel colorscheme from Geany.

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>>61123162
r8 my oh see

while sleep .01;do i=0;while [ $i -lt 30 ];do i=$[i+1];[ $[RANDOM%4] = 1 ]&&s="\e[32m $[RANDOM%2]"||s="\e[30m $[RANDOM%2]";printf "$s";done;done

>>61123784
The fault seems to be in

./game/Terraria

script, not the one shown here >>61123699

Is there a Terraria.bin.x86 file?

>>61123746
thought that too on the first try, then I realized that you need to make the terminal larger

>>61123801
>

i=$[i+1]

Why not

i="$(($i + 1))"?

Or is this some bashism?

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>>61123821

Yes, sorry I just noticed that.
Here's the /game/Terraria script.

Yes, Terraria.bin.x86 exists.

is there any reason not mount /usr/ as readonly? is this the default?

>>61123842
Because golfing. $[] is 2 chars shorter than $(()), but $[] is old shit, people should really use $(()).

>>61123863

Disregard line 38 and the echo, I added that to see what the path is.

>>61123842
You don't need to use $ for variables inside $(()), btw.

>>61123913
I didn't know that, thanks.

>>61123863
>>61123909
Replace line 39 with

if [ -x ./${BASENAME}.bin.${ext} ]; then
    ./${BASENAME}.bin.${ext} $@
fi;
And see what happens.

>>61124006
I hate when I get this 4chan's bbcode code tags wrong.

>>61124020
just use the 4chanx hotkey

>>61124006

Running Terraria
./Terraria: line 40: ./Terraria.bin.x86: No such file or directory

I guess that the game/Terraria script doesn't get into the game/ directory. Shouldn't line 5-6 do exactly that? I guess there's an error somewhere in the first start.sh script and the other that's being sourced in start.sh here >>61123699 in line 9. I guess the proper directory doesn't get passed down properly.

Here's the gog_com.shlib script.
https://pastebin.com/wphKeGLU

>>61124077

Yep, line 6 in here >>61123863 is cd-ing into ".".

>>61124035
>>61124077
>

./Terraria: line 40: ./Terraria.bin.x86: No such file or directory

But if execution got to line 40, that must mean that the directories are passed down right, because if the file didn't exist, execution would be stopped by the if statement that you added.

>>61121995
How will sandwich men ever recover??
Sandwichlets BTFO!!

>>61123801
Shorter && smoother with bashism.

while sleep .025;do for((i=0;i<30;i++));{(($[RANDOM%4]==1))&&s="\e[32m $[RANDOM%2]"||s="\e[30m $[RANDOM%2]";printf "$s";};done

>>61124215
zsh:1: parse error near `)'

>>61124238
>bashism
>zsh

>>61123608

sudo apt-get install pv && PS1="" && clear; $(mpv -vo null --no-terminal "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdAMq5LdAvs") & 2>&1>/dev/null; setterm -term linux -back black -fore green && clear && tput cup 2 0 && echo "Follow the white rabbit." | pv -qL 10 && sleep 12 && clear && tput cup 2 0 && echo "Knock, knock, Neo." | pv -qL 50 && sleep 10 && killall mpv && reset

Anyone use st? Know how to make it start in a different dir?

I use a program called xcwd to open a terminal in the same directory but using

st -e "cd `xcwd`"

doesn't work.

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>>61124169

I don't understand. It's right there, what is happening?

>>61123288
Anyone?

>>61124839

https://repology.org/metapackage/linux/versions

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Ok so I'm trying to install arch linux but whenever i start the install process my screen gets like this, is there anyway to fix this? I tried googling it but found nothing. I tried it on my laptop and it worked flawlessly with no graphical glitches. I have a GTX 970 and an i7 6700k if that helps

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>>61124887
Heres a follow up with the login screen, all the commands work it just looks like this

>>61124887
when in the boot menu press the key that lets you edit the command line, then add

noacpi nomodeset

to the end of the command line.

optional: remove silent and add verbose

>>61124887
>>61124907
Turn off your dedicated GPU, use the iGPU to install arch, install proprietary drivers for nvidia GPU, turn your GPU back.

>>61123869
You won't be able to install any packages that go to /usr/bin or /usr/sbin.

I.e. installation will fail.

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>>61122616
What did you expect?

Try replacing it for OSS.

>>61122616
No, it doesn't.

[ebuild   R    ] media-sound/pulseaudio-10.0::gentoo  USE="X alsa alsa-plugin asyncns bluetooth caps dbus gdbm glib gtk ipv6 orc ssl tcpd udev webrtc-aec -doc -equalizer -gnome -jack (-libressl) -libsamplerate -lirc -native-headset (-neon) -ofono-headset (-oss) -qt4 -realtime (-selinux) -sox (-system-wide) -systemd {-test} -zeroconf" ABI_X86="(64) -32 (-x32)" 1.571 KiB

>-systemd

>>61124887
nice glitch art, saved

>>61124934
Worked thanks

>>61124871
Thanks.

>>61125177
No problem.
Noveau drivers (the free and open source drivers for nvidia gpus) struggle with basics because the company itself is extremely hostile to the practice of open source and doesn't make it easy for the community.
Their proprietary drivers work fine.

If you ever wondered - with AMD it's exactly the other way around. Community drivers work great and are stable, proprietary catalyst drivers are a huge pile of shit

What should a beginner linux sysadmin be able to do? Eurofag here

>>61124887
Arch Linux should get a new trademark for "Arch Linux, but".

>>61125270
Whats a sysadmin anyway?

>>61125270
Probably whatever's required for RHCSA or equivalent for the other "big two" ie Ubuntu and openSUSE.

An actual certificate will help you get a job but there are plenty of free online courses to learn from.

Guys i'm tired of systemd.
Any fags that switched over to a distro that doesn't use systemd? How is it?

>>61125452
gentoo is, well, gentoo. Damn awesome distro, if you have the patience to set it up and keep it maintained. Check CloverOS too, there should be a general up.

Devuan is just like debian, but without memed.

>>61125481
>CloverOS
didn't it already die long before lo/g/os?

>>61125452
Devuan.
Init wise, pretty fucking good, after years of dealing with systemdicks you get to appreciate the simplicity of some things. I've yet to encounter a problem on both laptop and homeserver installations that was related to it not-having-systemd, which I definitely consider a success on their part.

I'm nervously waiting for them to move over to the next stable which I was told it's going to take a while.
Really sad, I really expected Devuan to stay up do date with Debian. I've heard a rumor that Ascii will run OpenRC (like gentoo) instead of just sysvinit, so this might be the reason for the hold up. No idea frankly.

>>61125515
No, it's a recent an 100% active project. As I said, check their general thread.

>>>/g/cloveros

>>61125515
You should browse the catalog sometimes. There are other threads, too.

>>61125452
Just switched my machines to Devuan.

At this stage you have to be a bit careful if you need things from testing because packages there haven't been purged of systemd dependencies as thoroughly yet. With stable it's quite straightforward to get rid of the thing.

>>61125401
Thanks!
I already have the NDG Linux Essentials certificate, but it feels like nothing special to me, it barely gave me any new information

*eats something from foot*

>>61125544
>browsing the catalog
Only reddit and simliar fools use the catalog.
You miss a lot of good threads that start with a shitty OP but turn into ebiness.

>>61121995
what the fuck is a sandwich man

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>>61125559
wtf I hate free software now
going back to windows as we speak

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>>61125601

>>61125607
It was just a joke. Calm down.

>>61125601
A walking advertisement, you know the old school marketing where you put a guy on the street with two large "boards" on the front and the back. He's "sandwiched" between them hence the sandwich man.

It's actually a fair comparison lol.

>>61125518
>>61125545
I tried Devuan ran into some problems switched back to debian. Should i try it again to get free from systemd?

>>61125641
Did you try pre-release version of Devuan? Might give it a try.

If release version, that depends on the problems lol.

>>61125641
What kind of problems, senpai? It's been a smooth ride after the upgrade for me.

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>>61125631
This?

Any good alternatives to htop for terminal use? I'm only really need uptime and process monitoring, but I'm more looking for A E S T H E T I C than anything else.

>>61125663
Exactly.

>>61125657
I don't even know but i think i tried Devuan Jessie 1.0?

>>61125627
Holy shit, I already forgot about sandwitch guy.

>>61125667
>I'm only really need uptime and process monitoring
uptime and ps probably

>>61125661
Well the installation went great but after following this guide for less bloat it went down hill from there

https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Minimal-xorg-install

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>>61124887

>>61125692
I've used those, but I was more looking for something to leave up on my terminal to provide realtime stats.

>>61123306

whatis $(compgen -c | grep ^ch)

>>61125692
vtop, glances

>>61125757
still try adding noacpi to the kernel command line

>>61125705
I see. I haven't tried anything like that. The only optimisation type of thing I've done is follow that "configure minimalism" guide which is just getting rid of suggested and recommended packages.

>>61125705
Well fuck won't help you. I actually migrated from an existing debian installation.

>>61125838
thanks for the suggestions anon

>>61125452

>tired of something he most likely doesn't even use

Admit it, you read an edgy opinion about something called systemd and now you want to be cool like them. Just the fact that you're asking such a stupid question proves that you're a poser.

>>61126173
>criticising other poeple's choices and doubts to feel more secure in the crowd
nice crab mentality right there buddy

Hope you're backing up your data.
Someone's backing it up.
It ain't you.

>>61125757
going to use this

>haven't fucked with linux in a while
>decide to put Arch on a spare hdd
>wow this is a lot of complex shit, I'll just try Antergos
>Install
>"There was an error with the loaded theme, you may not be able to log in"
>"Default Theme" is a blank black screen
>"Fallback Theme" is a blank white screen
>Reinstall twice, same shit
>Search the problem online
>Every single post anywhere about it ends with "Figured out the problem thanks" or "PM sent ;)"

>Install Fedora and be happy again

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>>61121861
You have to be a fucking toejam eater to use of one of those

>>61125757
saved

>>61126229
what de? i had zero problems with gnome

>>61121723
Is there a version of debian that provides working bcm4360 drivers during the install? Is there any way to install them on a live distro?

>>61126236
nice

>>61126279
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.0.1-live+nonfree/

>>61126279
debian provides isos with non-free crap enabled on them (firmwares etc).

Rather buy an atheros mini pci-e wifi card from china and replace the broadcom shit in your laptop to something that works with even linux-libre

Is Fedora the most well-rounded distro out there?

>come into linux threads
>95% is troubleshooting/techsupport

AHAHA

>>61126340
head on back to /v/ then, it seems more your speed.

>>61126213
I'm backing up the SHIT out of my data.
In fact one of my automated backup scripts ran tonight.
Let me check the output.
Gee, everything went right and I have months' worth of incremental backups as usual, who'd have guessed?

>>61126340
If you're looking for Windows tech support search for "Stupid Questions Thread"

>>61126306
danke
>>61126310
It's a fagbook, I promise I didn't get it for myself.

>>61126340
Isn't it nice to help each other?

>>61126326

What does your buzzphrase mean? You don't even know.
Every distribution is "well-rounded".

>>61126340
but anon, this isn't the linux thread

>>61124811

Please help, I don't understand how this happens. It makes no sense. The file is there, why doesn't it find it?

>>61126382
What method do you use? Copy and paste?

Is there a way to get well-rounded corners in i3 (or any other tiling wm)?

>>61126436
>open gimp
>round wallpaper corners
>close gimp
>set wallpaper
>????

Here are some cool Terminal commands

unzip, strip, touch, finger, grep, mount, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, umount, sleep....

>>61126390
windows users are getting shit done because their time is important and they're not unemployed

mac users don't need tech support

bsd users don't need tech support because it's stable and they know how things work

linux users spend 90% of their time fixing broken shit and the other 10% ricing their gay anime background transparent terminals that they never use anyways except to post screencaps of for attentionwhoring

>>61126434
Cron, homebrew shell script and rdiff-backup. I recommend you to look into a higher-level option like backupninja.

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>>61126463
hahaha LOL, guess you like this comic

>>61126491
I chortled

>>61126529
>>61126491
>>61126463
please be trolling

is thread supposed to be ironic or what?

Is there any benefit to using a linux distro for generating photogrammetry models as opposed to just doing it in windows with Agisoft?

>>61126569
yeah you can buy yourself a computing farm and do it in distributed manner

>>61125114
>udev
Where do you think that comes from?

>>61126463
worksafe board faggot

>>61126672
>what is eudev?

>>61126430
It is probably supposed to be running the x64 binary and is giving a nonsensical error message. I've had happen before with wrong format executables.

Is there a faster command to delete things then 'rm'?

>>61126929

alias r='rm'

there you go.

>>61126943
The deletion process not typing it

>>61126959
Wut? How on earth is it slow?

>>61122740
Is that why trisquel is a million times better than manjaro

>>61126929
On files it just unlinks them so any slowness on individual files is down to the file system. The was a problem with gnu coreutils iterating over large directories slowly because the buffers passed to listdir, or whatever, only holds a few thousand dirents so they have to call it lots. There are special purpose replacements for that case floating round.

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Hey everyone! I don't post a lot on /g/ but I installed xubuntu (I like the mouse) on my school laptop because of how nice all of you are and I've loved it. Took a class on shell scripting this past semester and am considering trying to go into system administration or something because it feels fun so far. Thank you all!

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>>61127153
install gentoo

>>61127188
>memegenerator
back in the days we made these things with bare hands

>>61126929
Not really, except a few very filesystem specific ones. But rm is plenty fast, isn't it?

Whenever i do any disk heavy i/o, the system stutters/locks up for a seconds every few seconds.Sometimtes its forced locked and it halts.
There are no log errors or warnings.What could be causing this?

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>>61127210
Everything gets automated now.

Anyone use void? How is it? Looks too hippster for mee

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>>61127188
I'll try one day! I wanna live the memes.

>>61126326
I'd say it's LMDE.

>>61127216
IO can be a problem with some hardware, but sometimes choosing different kernel (IO and CPU) schedulers helps. Just try a bunch.

Limiting individual aspects per process also usually can help, but cgroup and stuff is an advanced topic and maybe actually less worth your time than just buying better hardware.

>>61127306
I run the performance cpu scheduler.
Raid-6 arrays are using BFS,ssd is using deadline.
There is no reason to buy new hardware.

>install Fedora
>looks good
>try to drag and drop files between folders
>desktop crashes
>uninstall and go back to Windows

Fell for the meme.

Is XFCE a meme?

Sitting on Xubuntu here.

>Can't change my mouse sensitivity, flat out ignores my settings both in the GUI and terminal. Need to dick about with config shit if at all possible.
>Horrendous screen tearing with no quick fix. Need to dick about with config shit if at all possible.
>Ugly old "start" menu from the 90s. No obvious way to change (unlike MATE and GNOME etc which come extensible). Need to dick about with config shit if at all possible.

Hell even the default location for the volume changed popup is the same location as the volume change area of the panel. Meaning you can only move the volume up or down one notch before the popup springs up and blocks your mouse. This is straight out the box I didn't move around anything, it comes broken needing to be fixed. Who the fuck designed this.

>>61127402
i like xfce too but just use i3 man. DE's are such a waste. Also get Ubuntu minimal for a fresh start of i3.

Hi /fglt/. I want to improve my battery life, I'm currently on KDE Neon but I was thinking about tossing it and creating a simple Openbox configuration. Would the increase in battery life be noticeable? Would the distribution I choose matter? Currently thinking about Ubuntu Minimal LTS, Arch, Void or Gentoo. In case the distribution doesn't matter, I'll just go with Ubuntu. I like the "just works" approach and it's what I've used the most.

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>>61127153
>I installed xubuntu (I like the mouse)
That was basically my reason for it too. That and the blue color scheme. I use something else now though I tried Utopic Unicorn for a while just to feel the FABULOUS.

>>61122422
a man fell on stage and the shameless audience watches his agony

>>61127402
Install Debian instead of Xubuntu.

>Horrendous screen tearing
Install and configure compton.

>Ugly old "start" menu from the 90s
Install whiskermenu.

>>61127153
>Took a class on shell scripting
How did that turn out?

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>>61127624
I got an A but I don't know how useful the things I learned were. It was for the most part just doing real basic scripts in bash and perl. I'm not sure where to start with personal projects for practice.

>>61127586

My Debian live image didn't even recognise dual monitors.

I admit I just assumed from that it was less noob friendly and "just werks", and guessed that I would probably want to start with ubtuntu.

Is it that much better than xubuntu?

>>61122422
Richard Stallman has locked the doors and is preparing to force the audience to donate to the FSF by slowly eating toe cheese in front of them.

>>61122422
Hes pulling his sock off to eat some toe jam and dead skin.

>>61127401
>install Windows
>looks shit
>try to do some work
>system reboots, work lost
>uninstall and go back to GNU

Fell for the meme.

>>61127988
>back to gnu
You mean LInux

>>61127997
>>61127978
>>61127712
Please leave the gene pool.

>>61128073
Thou shalt not swallow thee bait.

>>61128073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxKURvE9iI

>>61128094

>>61125607
>>61125607

>>61128094
What did he mean by that?

>>61128157
He
ate
skin
from
his
dirty
feet

>>61128175
For what purpose?

>>61128188
You guys love him so much,why dont you ask him

>>61128216
>samefagging this obivious
hownew.ru

>>61128216
I don't want to because he may be embarrassed by it, and I don't want to make him feel uncomfortable.

>>61128321
Being an adult means you sometimes must face uncomfortable things in life

>>61128345
Yeah I know, but if those uncomfortable moments can easily be avoided, then why not avoid them?

>>61128385
If you want to support a bird fucking,toe-jam eating pedophile sperg ,then go right ahead

Is 6bg ram enough for using w7 or w10 virtual machine? what's an easy program to use with GUI for this? I don't know much about them.

Can Wine emulate Wacom drivers?

Also is my /home partition safe from reinstalling? What if I install another distro and set the same partition as home?

>>61128398
Everyone has embarrassing things they've done, skeletons in the closet, so to speak. Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you.

>>61128398
anime website

>>61128421
Its not a single occurrence though.Its multuple times

>>61128406
No
>Can Wine emulate Wacom drivers?
There is native support for wacom tables in linux
Yes

>>61128437
I still stand by my post.

>>61128406
>Also is my /home partition safe from reinstalling? What if I install another distro and set the same partition as home?
Just make it a separate partition

>>61128471
Posting biblical nonsense?
Yeah sure

>>61128504
>biblical nonsense
This is a Christian general. Us right-wing capitalists are retaking what was ours from the start. Your commie days are numbered.

>>61128526
Stallman and GPL are communist

Get your priorities straight

>Want to be able to process images for generating 3D models through photoscanning/photogrammetry
>Want to be able to manipulate those models in a 3D editor (blender)
>Want to be able to create textures for them
>Want to be able to create skeletons and 3D animatons for use in vidya games

Which distro and packages are right for me?

>>61128948
literally anything
just use the ubuntu or debian if you cant decide

My search engine-fu doesn't help, maybe you can? I'm trying to find informations about quoting bash arrays when defining them.
>myarray=("a" "b" "c")
works
>myarray="("a" "b" "c")"
makes problems.
I could leave it like it is, but I'd be happy to learn it for real, but all the guides I find on the web are absolutly horrible (some don't even quote normal variables)...

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https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/

>>61129917
That was a depressing read.
What ever happened to enlightenment?

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I need some help guys. I'm trying to connect to wifi on a new install of slackware but I'm having some trouble. I've been going through guides for days and can't get it right. I've edited wpa supplicant and rc.inet1 but I just can't get it. Pic is what it gives me when I try to restart wlan0.

>>61129917
I somehow feel like "moresome" would have been slightly less... fucked? Not sure how to express it. Even though neither one is a word, "moreish" seems less correct somehow.

>>61130282
Moreish is so a word.

>>61130282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAlPwnkQURg

>>61121804
Same reason why putin,trump and any serious politic wears red tie in important speech.

Same reason police car alarms are RED-BLUE

Same reason why you would rather pick fight with same dude if he had green shirt

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when people ask why gnome is not so great, remember this is the general attitude of gnome devs (and gtk devs since gtk is libgnome actually)

>>61130328
???
Tell me more. What about a guy in a white shirt, would you y/n?

>>61130378
That is from a ten year old mail. And you should have capped the one where he talked about his mascara running.

>>61130396
I know it's old, but you just need to use nautilus to see that the attitude is still there.

>>61130378
>and gtk devs
gtk is the total opposite of that though? They completely changed everything for gtk3 and broke hundreds, if not thousands, of themes.
Go download a random theme from gnome-look or whatever, and chances are it will come with gtk-3.0 specific themeing and STILL be broken. Although I'm sure by now if you download the top themes you're going to be fine. But honestly go take a look back a themes a few years old, download any of them and it'll be broken in gtk3 applications, and not just broken meaning it drops you to the default theme, I mean windows show up all black, or nothing has any borders including buttons.

I need some help with my mouse. I've had this same mouse for years now, and it has always worked well with the generic drivers. But now it has suddenly stopped working, replugging the mouse or rebooting the machine doesn't help. It doesn't show up on lusb, and dmesg keeps repeating these messages over and over

Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.574275] usb 1-1.2: new low-speed USB device number 12 using ehci-pci
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.691908] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=1c4f, idProduct=0048
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.691913] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.691915] usb 1-1.2: Product: Usb Mouse
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.691917] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: SIGMACHIP
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.695643] input: SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2/1-1.2:1.0/0003:1C4F:0048.01CA/input/input474
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 12: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.2"
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3971.754442] hid-generic 0003:1C4F:0048.01CA: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1.2/input0
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 12 was not an MTP device
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop upowerd[1118]: GnuTLS error: Error in the pull function.
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3972.069153] usb 1-1-port2: disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
Jun 29 03:11:42 laptop kernel: [ 3972.069161] usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 12

So I guess it recognizes the mouse at first, but then mtp-probe disconnects it because its not an mtp device? I have no idea what could be causing this. It has never happened before, and I haven't upgraded my kernel or anything like that in a while. pls halp

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>>61121804
Red is a power color dawg

>>61130677
I wouldn't think mpt-probe would do that, but then it shouldn't be running for an input device. For me mtp-probe is in /lib/udev/ and it is run from /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules
I dunno if it is different on systemd based systems though. You can check your vendor and product IDs are not in that rules file (would be weird) and/or mv mtp-probe away for a bit and/or replace it with a shell script that 0 or 1 to check if it is that doing it I suppose.

I don't use upowerd ether, which is the one printing the actual error message.

Im dedicating myself to switching to Linux and I want to learn more about the system so I want a good space to learn on and use casually. Im trying to pick between Fedora and Manjaro what do you guys think?

>>61131077
>manjaro
Dont use downstream distros
>fedora
kek

Use arch

>>61131077
General advice for new users is to use ubuntu.

Not arch because it is not a good space.

>>61131105
>>61131127
Problem is I dont want to use Ubuntu because of the bundled amazon stuff. Whats keeping me off Fedora is the GUI. I really dont want big buttons taking up my entire screen like Im a retard.

>>61131187
>the bundled amazon stuff
update your sources lad

>>61131187
>gui
it's not like gnome with adwaita is the only desktop environment that you can install.

>>61131105
>>61131187
Manjaro is /fglt/ approved because it has a non-systemd option

>>61131279
>/fglt/ approved
>non-systemd option
what fresh nu meemee is this?

>>61121723
Is he doing a strip tease?

>>61131300
Hes taking his sock off to eat toe jam and dead skin

>>61131279
I, anon, don't approve of it.

Decide what distro I'll use next month

>>61131385
arch
and for all the months after

what manjaro and linux mint have in common?
shit developers who doesn't know shit about security.

>>61131385
PCLinuxOS

*eats something from your foot*

>>61131451
*masturbates your parrot*

>>61131486
*advocates for pedophilia*

>>61131451
Anon, I was saving that!

>>61131495
LOL, sorry Richie mah boy!

>>61131491

*promotes communism*

*spreads the overpopulation myth*

*attempts to control the way you speak*

*takes credit for other people's achievements*

>>61131324
Well you aren't /fglt/.
/fglt/ approves.

>>61131558
when did we take a vote? don't remember voting against this, like i definitely would

>>61131582
/FGLT/ APPROVES

>>61131548
*shows you a draft for emacs from 1976*

please help

i've tried to install arch i386, debian i386 and debian amd64 and every time after install on the first reboot i get a black screen

on arch i get the grub menu but then it freezes at "loading ramdisk"

sos

>>61131833
>every time after install on the first reboot
That sounds highly suspicious. I advise you open your case and check for gremlins. You may need an exterminator!

Have you tried booting into alive distro?

Is there something wrong with Fedora? Im just going to install KDE on it, the reason I picked this one is because it was on prismbreak (albeit with little explanation of why). Im very new to all of this.

>>61131858
what's a good live distro to check with? pls help i am almost illiterate

>>61131885
I dunno, I still use knoppix from like five years ago... Probably the one that ships with firmware by default.
http://unetbootin.github.io/#features
^erm, mint maybe?

>>61131966
so it worked with a live debian

i mounted into my boot partition i made in installation and tried to update grub. after rebooting it's the same shit, black screen

>>61132331
What wiki are you following?
It sounds like you arent installing the bootloader

>>61132352
i used the debian install gui

>>61132360
See if you can get dumped in to the terminal at some point and do it manually

*brainwashes the masses into sacrificing convenience for "privacy"*

>>61132381
i managed to chroot in during a live session and tried to install grub, it said it was missing filed but running grub-update worked

Hope you're backing up your data.
Someone's backing it up.
It ain't you.

>>61121723
man grep

>>61132406
Does it get past grub? If so maybe try adding nomodeset to the kernel command line.

>>61132454
man touch fsdk more yes

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So I have to choose between a workstation based on Windows 10 or RHEL. Is there any reason not to go with RHEL? This is a workstation for scientific computing.

Pic not related

>>61132455
it gets passed grub on the live install yeah

where is the kernal command line?

>>61132567
Are the programs you're going to be using offered nativly in linux? if not, windows

>>61132630
Yeah they're all offered. Run Fedora on my home desktop, but have one software at work that is only supported on Windows and RHEL. But RHEL has a pretty large subscription fee that I doubt I'll ever use (course it isn't my money...)

>>61132573
Not on the live one, on the broken on.
On the grub menu edit the entry like
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/reset_root_password
Unde the Using_GRUB_to_invoke_bash heading. Except just add nomodeset instead of init=whatever and skip the last three steps.

>>61132674
Why not CentOS or Scientific Linux?

>>61132567
What "scientific computing" are we talking about?

Generally GNU/Linux works much better as a production environment than Windows does, with the exception of this >>61132630

If you know you won't be missing any windows specific tools then definitely go with GNU/Linux.
However, if you do need to stay with Windows I would still recommend getting a terminal emulator with something like cygwin so you get a lot of the GNU/Linux tools as well.

Also, does it have to be RHEL? There are better options if you have the choice.

>>61132816
>>61132674
Just to make it clear that CentOS and SL are basically RHEL. Red Hat used to recommend CentOS if you didn't want to pay and now they bought it.

>>61132567
I have a choice between X and Y.
>>61132816
Why not W or Z?
>>61132897
There are other options than Y!

Fuck this board can be depressing.

>>61132727
i cant get to the grub menu on the broken one at all

i did some research and it seems my ionode size is 256 and that to boot it has to be 128. is this true? why would the debian partition tool set my size wrong

>>61132964
Red Hat themselves recommend CentOS.
Whatever just use rhel then fag.

>>61132986
Dunno, the default inode size is listed in /etc/mke2fs.conf on debian as 256. You can check it with sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdxy

>>61133023
yeah i checked and mine was 256

christ idk what's wrong. i guess i'll try again tomorrow. maybe i'll just do one partition

>>61132964
lol, you seem like someone insecure about their intelligence.

>>61131833
What is your hardware?

what's the best way to sync a google drive folder on arch/manjaro?

>>61133426
>arch/manjaro
embrassing

So on my current- outdated- setup for usb tethering I just put

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet dhcp
    metric 30

In /etc/network/interfaces and then tell my phone to tether and thats it.
Is there an easy way to do it with systemd and the new predictable naming scheme? Because according to arch wiki you have to create a udev rules file and a service file for ... each specific usb port that you might use? Or do it manually each time.

>>61133426
>google drive
embrassing

>>61133500
>>61133564
please don't reply if you don't know

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Is there a CLI Text reader for linux?

I have been reading through Putty using "less" but i find it annoying to lose my progress.

New thread, now with more dubs!

>>61133611
>>61133611
>>61133611

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Linux is a program which runs directly on top of ram.

What it does is allows programs an interface to operate on the hardware and separates programs from each other so they can't interfere with each other in ram. If Linux was not babysitting each program then programs could look into each other's rams and know what the secure contents were.

In essence all Linux does is host drivers and separate ram.

The programs that run atop Linux are much more crucial than Linux itself. These programs are the applications that actually drive the industry and cause work to be done. They would be available to us even if the Linux kernel had never existed.

At the base of these applications is the GNU system. The Gnu's Not Unix acronym is really just an excuse to make a free GNU clone. GNU clearly is almost identical to Unix.

Unix itself was a timesharing system that was designed to squeeze as much juice as possible out of old mainframes which were highly expensive and did not have alot of resources.

The reason Unix was good was not just that the utilities were good but because most of the early business and military applications were ported to UNIX making UNIX one of the most mature and backwards compatible systems still surviving today.

However one must remember that UNIX was designed to emulate lisp systems. If one studies the history of UNIX it was made around the same goals of the BASIC system. This goal was to replicate the timesharing abilities and functional programming abilities that John McCarthy was working on. McCarthy's system proved to be the most robust and versatile but at the time it was very slow and also very privately owned.

Now that Lisp systems are open source there is no reason to keep ourselves under the guise that either the GNU system or the Linux system are highly necessary.

All that is necessary for a modern Lisp system to exist is simply to run a single process consuming all computer resources directly on top of the Linux Kernel.

>>61121723
Taking off his socks? Must be lunch time.

>>61133606
Why not just use vim?

What the fuck is that pose RMS is doing in the OP?

>>61134641
>take me right now

>>61135035
It's some weird "I'm in my private bedroom" type of vibe. Creepy.

>>61121859
>my

Try harder anon. Stallman isn't part of the botnet