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Ait boys, I posted this on the other thread, but I might as well throw it on the new one, too.

>CS major, c++ focused rn
>Winfag my whole life

I guess I've come to the point where I have to learn how to use linux. I have Ubuntu dual-booted, and I've learned how to do really basic stuff like install programs and mess with files.

I'm still totally in the dark when it comes to using the OS with doing anything programming-related.

what do?
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>>61113864
This was meant for you: >>61113864
If you're really serious about learning, then you have to either use GNU/Linux as your main OS, or remove Windows completely.
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>>61113864
how the hell can a cs major not know how to use linux?
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I can't find a spir-v compiler on ubuntu, is this intended? There's no package and I already have vulkan-utils installed, why would there be no spir-v compiler package for ubuntu?
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>>61113830
HOW DO I ACHIEVE FULL FREEDOM
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>>61113864
Normal pc stuff.

Like ricing cute 2d girls all over your desktop.
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>>61113882
I was totally considering doing it, but then I like to play the vidya, which from what I've heard is a pain in the butt with compatability

>>61113898
I'm new at CS, still very much learning things C:

>>61113911
You mean QT traps, right?
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>>61113910
Install one of these: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
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Just installed my first tar.bz2 program (FF Nightly) and it doesn't show up in my application list in gnome. It's also telling me it won't auto-update, which i'm assuming is a permission thing. Was it a mistake to unpack it into /opt?
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>>61113945
I allready use on of those. I mean real freedom. Free hardware free firmware.
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>>61113938
>I was totally considering doing it, but then I like to play the vidya, which from what I've heard is a pain in the butt with compatability
That's fine, just use Windows as one would use a game console. Only boot into it if you want to play a game. Don't even bother installing a web browser in it or anything.
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>>61113958
Become an hero.
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>>61113958
If the software is what controls the hardware, then using free software should be enough, no?
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>>61113988
The CPU microcode is considered by stallman to be part of the hardware yet it could control my computer too.
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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Use clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/
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Have a pptx but don't want to install libreoffice just to see the text and catppt returns a silly error? I got you cover:

#!/bin/bash
# Convert pptx to text
unzip -qc "$1" ppt/slides/slide*.xml | grep -oP '(?<=\<a:t\>).*?(?=\</a:t\>)' > "$1".txt
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>>61114315
sgml-tux is very ugly. Please consider changing it.
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>>61114315
>Without sensible defaults
Sounds like a trip.
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>>61114315
>>61114356

I agree. I love the idea but you guys need an aesthetic update asap. I might be able to draw something for you. I just got a digital tablet and I have been needing something to draw to practice and get used to using digital painting.
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>mfw foobar in wine is the best player for linux
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>>61114745
>not mpd + ncmpcpp
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Is there a pdf-editing application that auto-calculate works correctly on? I'm using evince, and I don't know how to get it to work, if it should work.

I have a TTRPG character sheet, where when I input the stats, it should auto-fill in all of the appropriate forms related to what I put in, e.g. str 10 means str mod of 0, +0 to all str based skills, etc.
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>>61114751
lol good luck playing back midis with the syxg50 vst
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>>61114745
>mfw no face
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>>61114753
People are doing what with PDFs these days? Isn't that a job for a spreadsheet?
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>>61114781

The sheet can be printed out if you like, and pdfs have more stable form and formating than a spreadsheet. It might look pretty on Microsoft Office 2017 but like shit on LibreOffice.
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>>61113957
Yes, try to log in as root and run it or use sudo. If it works that way you know it's a permissions issue.
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>>61114767
So you are not looking for the best music player but the best windows vst host? Well sorry buddy bat that has nothing to do with linux.
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>>61114811
not him, but can you not export spreadsheets as pdf?
hell go even more autist and latex it
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>>61113957
You have to add a .desktop file to /usr/local/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications.
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
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Hello, I am having a minor issue with Debian 9. It isn't really that big of a problem but I would rather deal with it now so it doesn't potentially turn into something more severe. A little backstory, I decided to use the Debian 8.8 install and then upgrade to testing because the latest installer was giving me problems. So anyway, when I run
sudo apt-get upgrade
I get the following output

https://pastebin.com/bWJVLC5Z

This is after upgraded from stable to testing using dist-upgrade. This output is a little worrisome because I am fairly confident that I do in fact use some of those packages, but I could be wrong. If anyone could shed some light on this I would be very appreciative.
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I downloaded a video using youtube-dl but when he watched it on Windows it hadn't sound. How do I convert it to mp4 using ffmpeg with sound for Windows?
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>>61114977

Not an expert.

I think that deb 8.8 probably has packages that have limits placed on them. The furthest you can get is like a v.45 while on 9.0 you can reach v.62. Those old packages would be replaced with new ones. I think it's safe to auto-remove.

Just be sure that you did
>$ sudo apt update

before you do all of that, to make sure that there are new packages to install to replace the old ones that are going to get removed.
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>>61114977
Eh I wouldn't be that worried by it. Just mark any you use as manually installed. Looks like some things just changed dependancies and some stuff got deprecated.
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Is there a way to switch to a window with just the mouse in CWM or do I really have to press Alt every time.
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>>61115028
I randomly chose xscreensaver, which is marked to be autoremoved and noticed that the most current version is the version currently installed. I actually use xscreensaver so I don't know why it is apparently "no longer required."
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>>61115139

With this paste-bin, it doesn't actually show what version you are using that would be auto-removed. It could be that when you checked the version of it, it was the one that was installed and will stay.

You could try to use synaptic to see what version those packages are (maybe).

Worst case scenario, make a list of the packages that are getting auto-removed, and if there is no current version installed, then reinstall it. Auto-remove, in my experience, has always been a safe process.
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>>61115139
Probably because it was installed as a dependancy of a metapackage that no longer depends on it. "no longer required" just means it was installed automatically (as a dependancy) and is no longer depended on by anything that was installed manually (ie that was actually passed to apt install).

To mark it manually just use `apt install xscreensaver` or `apt-mark manual xscreensaver`.
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>>61114989
what format did you use? probably just downloaded the video w/o sound
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>>61115206
>it could be that when you checked the version of it, it was the one that was installed and will stay.
Apt doesn't call upgrades removals though.
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>>61115214
mkv. I tested before and it was working fine.
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I was >>61100843 from the last thread. Used testdisk as suggested by an anon and it actually shows the drive (hooray!). I chose [Intel] as the partition table type when prompted (not sure if that's right) and when I analyze the drive, no partitions are shown and I get "Read error at x/1/1" where 'x' is every cylinder analyzed so far.
Do I need to let it analyze the entire drive?
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I need a distro with the following features, ordered by importance:
1. Opts out of GTK3.
2. GTK2 fork of Firefox.
3. Opts out of systemd
4. Pure GTK2 XFCE
5. Debian-based.

Could you please tell me if a project like this exists?
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Any idea why this doesn't work?
function scpbeam {
scp "-i /path/to/key" "$1" "$2"
}

Results:
$ scpbeam user@host:test ~/
ssh: Could not resolve hostname host:test: No address associated with hostname

The host information is correct, I can do it the normal successfully.
$ scp -1 /path/to/key scpbeam user@host:test ~/
test 100% 12 0.7KB/s 00:00
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Fuck you, your little bitch OS has no games or software. Fucking faggots are fucking cancer.
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Thoughts on bunsenlabs?
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>>61115981
Try having "-i" and "/path/to/key" as two seperate arguments.
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>>61115324
Still no luck but I decided to re-run it as root and it's analyzing the cylinders at an incredibly faster speed. Previously it was doing about 1 cylinder per second but now it's just under 100 cylinders per second. Just though it was strange since the documentation specifically states that it doesn't need to be run as root. Just gonna let it run for a while and see if anything turns up. If anyone can offer any other advice, that'd be great though.
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>>61115935
Can't you just install debian and configure it that way? I have got systemd banned in apt preferences, you should be able to do the same for gtk3
$cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: systemd
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: -1

Package: systemd-sysv
Pin: release o=Debian
Pin-Priority: -1
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/g/uys. I'm thinking of doing something stupid and need your input on how (un)feasible it is.

Instead of making an freenas+intel based nas, I wanna do a ryzen+ubuntu w/zfs nas because $/perf and preference of linux over bsd.

Thoughts?
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>>61115981
lrn2sshconfig so then you can just do
scp shittybox ~/files ~/shittyfiles
you can of course name them how you please
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>>61115324
>>61116070
Lol. Ended up increasing to a little more than 10,000 cylinders per second. It finished and found no partitions. So ya. Still no access to the data. If someone has any ideas please let me know.
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>>61116080
I want to know if there is a distro specially made to opt out of GTK3. There are many applications that depend on it in current Debian so I need a distro that mantains the GTK2 versions. I'm specially interested in a fork of Firefox that uses GTK2. I'm aware there is one for Arch but it would be better if I can avoid to install Arch.
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>>61116052
Same result.
>>61116095
Probably a better idea. I'll look into that instead. Thanks both of you.
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>>61116180
yeah do it, much better than juggling with what identity files every time. makes messing with all the different machines you might have much easier.
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>>61116094
OpenMediaVault (debian based) appears to have a zfs plugin http://omv-extras.org/joomla/index.php/omv-plugins-3/3-stable
So maybe just use that? I dunno.
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>>61116121
If it is stopping you booting could you put it in an externel enclosure, boot to some live disk and then plug it in and play with it?

Also, wtf is an intel partition table? The only ones I know of are msdos, gpt and some shitty old mac one.
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I'm thinking about switching from Windows 10 to KDE Neon. I'm a little nervous to do it since I don't want to try to install it and then have a ton of issues and then get discouraged and revert back to Windows 10.

I have had issues trying to boot into Linux before with my GTX 980 trying to get drivers to work long enough to get in and install them manually. Multi-monitor layouts seemed to not work very well under GNOME and Unity in the past either.

Is it worth it to use Wayland on KDE? I don't have any problems on my T430 and HD4000 but I hear that there are issues with Wayland and Nvidia.

How likely do you think it is that I will have similar issues again? I want to be on Linux on my desktop but I don't want to Dualboot either.
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>>61116275
It's already external. Using a sata to usb cable with power. Tested it on other drives and it works fine so its not the cable.
And FYI, it's able to analyze all of the cylinders without any freezing or hiccups. It finishes but just doesn't find anything, even after a deep search. Not sure about the "Intel" partition. It was pre-selected by the program and based on other tutorials it seems to be the right option.
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>>61116317
Use the good old Xorg until you feel like trying the less mature Wayland.

There is no likelihood of issues in general but if you have some you just fix them.
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>>61116094
Why ZFS? Other than that, go ahead.
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>>61116436
is KDE Neon worth it? I hear it's basically Ubuntu 16.04 with updated KDE Plasma packages and less ootb software unlike Kubuntu
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>>61116422
What does parted and fdisk say?
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>>61116492
An fdisk -l doesn't show the device. A parted -l shows:

Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
Model: ASMT 2135 (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 1000GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: unknown
Disk Flags:
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>>61116549
I dunno. maybe https://www.geckoandfly.com/4093/unlock-and-recover-hard-drive-password-hard-disk-password-removal-tool/

Apparently if your drive is locked at the hardware level you can't even write to it. You could test it by trying to use dd to write to some random block (and hopefully not make the situation worse).
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>>61113830
Why does Debian 9 still not come with 1920x1080 as a mode in xrandr by default? I cannot get xrandr to do anything I say.
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>>61116317
XFCE is old as fuck and easier to manage in my opinion than KDE.
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I have an external drive that's formatted in NTFS. If I use Linux as my primary/only operating system. Am I OK with reading and writing to the drive and using it like normal with it being NTFS even if my Linux install file system is something different such as ext4?
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Yo guys I got another drive to put xubuntu on cause I was so fucking tired of windows bullshit.

Problem is I cant fucking install anything. Ive never had this problem before. I didnt download the 3rd party shit cause I didnt want java or flash and I think that compiled download may be fucking it up?

sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
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>>61116651
Yeah, the ntfs driver on linux is pretty solid these days. As long as you are only using it for media and not installing linux programs to it because ntfs doesn't have the permissions support that linux stuff expects.
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>>61116616
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try the linux version of CmosPwd.
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>>61116670
>is another process using it?
Use this to check: sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
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Any recommended tiling terminals out there?
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>>61116705
"Tiling terminal?"

I've only ever heard of tiling window managers.

Inside a tiling window manager, X will make terminal conform to absolute tiled sections of the screen.

I recommend spectrwm, but use i3 if you're a brainlet.
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Is LMDE the best "just werks" distro? I keep going back to it.
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>>61116692

lsof: status error on /var/lib/d[kg/lock: No such file or directory

so that mean i gotta make it?
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>>61116705
emacs
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>>61116732
Worth a try I suppose. Although if it isn't autocreated something is up. Here are the perms of mine so you can copy:
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Jun 28 16:52 /var/lib/dpkg
-rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jun 28 16:52 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
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>>61116796
hopefully i dont have to reinstall shit... mfw
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>>61115260
MKV is a container format that may or may not include audio streams. YouTube has various formats that you can see with
$ youtube-dl --list-formats "$URL"
. Specify the one you want with the -f option when downloading. Make sure it's one that doesn't say "video only".

E.g.:

$ youtube-dl --list-formats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMEEvmfyQU
[youtube] XqMEEvmfyQU: Downloading webpage
[youtube] XqMEEvmfyQU: Extracting video information
[info] Available formats for XqMEEvmfyQU:
format code extension resolution note
249 webm audio only DASH audio 56k , opus @ 50k, 1.45MiB
250 webm audio only DASH audio 74k , opus @ 70k, 1.91MiB
171 webm audio only DASH audio 124k , vorbis@128k, 3.22MiB
140 m4a audio only DASH audio 129k , m4a_dash container, mp4a.40.2@128k, 3.56MiB
251 webm audio only DASH audio 143k , opus @160k, 3.74MiB
278 webm 192x144 144p 64k , webm container, vp9, 25fps, video only, 905.91KiB
160 mp4 192x144 144p 113k , avc1.4d400c, 13fps, video only, 2.12MiB
242 webm 320x240 240p 116k , vp9, 25fps, video only, 995.17KiB
133 mp4 320x240 240p 278k , avc1.4d400d, 25fps, video only, 5.85MiB
17 3gp 176x144 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2@ 24k
36 3gp 320x240 small , mp4v.20.3, mp4a.40.2
18 mp4 320x240 medium , avc1.42001E, mp4a.40.2@ 96k
43 webm 640x360 medium , vp8.0, vorbis@128k (best)
$ youtube-dl -f 18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqMEEvmfyQU
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>>61116796

sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs
Output information may be incomplete.
COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
dpkg 2000 root 3uW REG 252,1 0 15730817 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
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>>61116616
>>61116677
Well CmosPwd doesn't seem to help. I can't figure out how to point it at an external device. It just seems to want to point to the primary drive. I'll follow the tutorial for the Windows version in a VM tomorrow. Gotta Well CmosPwd doesn't seem to help. It can't figure out how to point it at an external device. It just seems to want to point to the primary drive. I'll follow the tutorial for the Windows version in a VM tomorrow. Gotta get at least a few hours of sleep otherwise I'll be dead at work.
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brand new to bash and ive gotten stuck with a problem

i set up an alias for "subl" to run sublime text

I want to open javascript.js in my current directory, but have sublime run in the background

MY PROBLEM:
>typing "subl& ./javascript.js" will open sublime in the background, but the file is not opened.
>typing "sub ./javascript.js" opens the file in sublime, but not in the background. my current bash terminal is unable to be used unless i hit CTRL+Z, which closes sublime
>after hitting CTRL+Z, typing "bg" gives me "no such job" error. typing "jobs" returns nothing.


im ass blasted right now
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https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxsucks/
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>>61116861
>dpkg 2000 root 3uW REG 252,1 0 15730817 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
Well it looks like dpkg is running somewhere, so you could just kill that ... find the terminal it is running in and finish your currently running installation.

>lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs
Wat. Maybe you should check mount and make sure there isn't some shitty fuse filesystem mounted over top of root or something.
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>>61115981
>
"-i /path/to/key" 

remove the quotes
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>>61116882
Ctrl Z and after u stop 7t write bg and enter. Starts it running in the bckground
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>>61116882
use:
subl ./javascript.js &
ie put the ampersand at the end of the entire command, not just the program.

Dunno why ctl+z is killing sublime though.
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>>61116882
>sublime text
nonfree pig disgusting
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>>61113902
>170x250
>saving and/or posting thumbnails or worse, using a thumbnail as the base of an edit

Stop it retard you're making GNU users look bad
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What are some secret (lesser known) terminal commands?
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>>61116954
>>61116956
>>61116964

thanks for the answers,
subl ./javascript &

did the trick

I dont know why ctrl+z was killing it as opposed to pausing
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>>61114745
cmus is fine
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>>61116980
htop
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>>61116984
ctrl+z pauses a program
running fg brings it back to the foreground
running bg brings it back to the background (same as executing it with &)
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>>61117002
right, but in this case ctrl+z would kill it completely

typing "jobs" and nothing came up

typing "bg" or "fg" got "no such job" error
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>>61116980
chattr is pretty awesome, but not really used
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>>61116980
nl

>1 character shorter than cat
>adds line numbers, comfy to grep
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>>61116969
Oh yeah. We only want high definition /pol/ memes in here ...
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>>61117026
muh -i flag
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>>61116980
:(){ :|:& };:
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>>61117038
How is your response to this relevant at all? Also only morons use ellipses.
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>>61116980
strings /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so | grep -A51 Dave
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>>61114811
You can print a spreadsheet too.
Take the character sheet and make it the background. Then adjust the cell sizes so it fits. Then lock down the cells so people can't change stuff they don't need to change.
It shouldn't be too hard.
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this question is probably for /sqt/, but I think I'll get a proper answer here.
if I have iptables (using ufw) configured to drop all incoming connections, and allow all outgoing connections... how am I able to browse the internet? shouldn't shitposting be dropped before it gets to the web browser?
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>>61117058
>You silly, twisted boy you.
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>>61117073
If you mean how do you get web content, your firewall is statefull and allows already established connections to continue. You establish a tcp connection with the remote server when you send it an HTTP request and it sends a response on the same connection.
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>>61117079
Listen, burrito brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.
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>>61117049
>baka
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>>61116317
Why won't you dual boot?
Set aside 10g for your KDE distro and try it out.
If you don't like it, delete it and use windows again.
If everything is great and 10g isn't enough you can just take more space.
Another option is to take a spare hard drive and try it on that
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>>61117120
Why does nobody have have more than 1 PC? I never understood this.
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>>61117120
>not going in balls deep, dry, like a real man
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>>61116317
If you use Ubuntu, check out the system76 repo, they have drivers for nvidia cards.
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>>61116453
KDE neon is the best way to use KDE on Ubuntu.
If you don't like KDE or don't like Ubuntu, it is not for you.
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>>61117133
If you just want to test it out and feel it is likely to revert to windows, you didn't go balls deep in the first place.
There is nothing honorable about failing on purpose.
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>>61117209
Do you know anyone who actually reverted to Windows?
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>>61117247
The creator of Gentoo.
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>>61117275
Linus Torvalds?
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>>61117247
I don't know anyone at all ;(
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>>61117090
thank you.
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>>61117297
No problem.
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>>61116985
Cmus is benis
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Fedora or openSUSE?
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alright my debian openbox build is getting there. someone rec me a lightweight terminal, using xterm now
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What is considered "general Unix environment knowledge"? All IT jobs in my area require this. Being a winfag all my life, how do I approach this?
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>>61116445
isn't zfs the best fs for a nas?
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got an arch server

any way I can do some automated power options to cut down on the power use? stuff like keeping power usage at a minimum when all it's doing is seeding
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>>61117454
On linux it isn't the best anything :(
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>>61117435
Read up on POSIX and the Single Unix Specification I guess. libc api, program lifecycles and shit.
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>>61114745

>using wine for something as simple as music playback
Just go back to Windows you pretentious idiot.
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>>61115935

You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a GTK2 and GTK3 program.
You are an idiot who will have to stop using Xfce in a year when it releases 4.14.
You are just a plain idiot.
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Did Fedora just remove Python 2?
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>>61117405

Every terminal emulator is "lightweight".
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>>61117819

No.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/python2/
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>>61117810
>You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a GTK2 and GTK3 program.
Painfully untrue.

>You are just a plain idiot
Look who's talking.
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God fucking damn it. Why do terminal commands have to use rtarded obscure characterts like that caret shit so much? don't they realize how incredibly hard to type they are for anyone who isn't a fat burger fuck from clappistan?
i always have to open a fucking character map and copy paste them
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>>61117914

Which one is GTK3 and which one is GTK2?
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I'm new to Linux, just installed Debian 9 stable with gnome3 and got it all setup the way I want except for one thing. Is there a way to get a file picker in gnome3 that shows thumbnails the way KDialog does in KDE? I read the installgento wiki but it doesn't mention anything.
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>>61117957

It's mostly used with regex, at least from the top of my head. Regex isn't a "terminal command".
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>>61117976
The one that isn't a buggy piece of shit.
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>>61117991

>i can't tell the difference
>i can't name the "bugs"
>i have no arguments and i have been proven wrong, so i'll just try to change the topic

Kill yourself you pretentious idiot.
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>>61117999
>you pretentious idiot
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Are there any reasons to install nvidia drivers if I don't plan to video games?
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>>61118023
In my case I had to install the open-source proprietary drivers for my GTX 980 Ti in order to get the system to recognize my BenQ monitor and set the refresh to 144hz properly.
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>>61113830
i dont know much about programing or linux, i wrote some code for fun a long time ago, where can i go to basically start all over and relearn?

just pretend im absolutely retarded.
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>>61118066
>open-source proprietary
the fuck
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In ubuntu server install i can tick lamp and it installs mysql php and apache and they work together out of the box, is there such option in ubuntu desktop? such as apt install lamp?
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>>61118097
Ah fuck, I'm retarded. I just meant proprietary and forgot I edited the sentence.
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>>61114745
https://jordaneldredge.com/projects/winamp2-js/
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>>61118020

Still waiting for you to prove how you can distinguish GTK2 from GTK3, to list the shortcomings of GTK3 compared to 2 and its bugs that are affecting you.
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>>61118099

apt install mysql php apache
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>>61118137
>Still waiting for you to prove how you can distinguish GTK2 from GTK3
man ldd
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>>61118023
I've heard people say that aside from games the open source nvidia drivers make desktop things feel more smooth and responsive.
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>>61118149

Just as I thought, you can't name it yourself.
Your idiot status: CONFIRMED.
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>>61118146
but that will install them separately i want them already preconfigured so i don't have to do it myself
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>>61118162

Used both recently and it was the same on my hardware. Sounds like placebo to me.
The one thing I don't like about the proprietary drivers, apart from being proprietary, is that they print an ugly warning in dmesg saying how it doesn't support a fb console (whatever that means) and that it can cause trouble.
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>>61118137
Sure, you totally intended to get that from >>61117976. I'm not gonna waste time with some Gnome shill.
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hey /g/
I've recently installed Arch on a new machine and wanted to use XFCE4 with Numix theme on it. Everything seems to be working fine except for most of widgets that have wrong shapes or colors. I tried reinstalling, installing from git, copying the theme from other machine but it always looks wrong.
Anyone have any idea what's going on?
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>>61118099
apt install nginx postgresql lua

But seriously
$ sudo tasksel
And pick [] web server
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I am trying to use VPS+OpenVPN combo but I am running into some errors after using an [spoiler]install script https://github.com/Angristan/OpenVPN-install[/spoiler]
The script runs fine but it's not putting keys in my .ovpn config so I cannot use it on my PC
what do? where have my keys gone?
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>>61118192
This is how they should look like.
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>>61118184

What are you even trying to say? Waste your time? You mean you have no idea what you're talking about, you cannot back-up your claims and you have no arguments, so you're going to stop?
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>>61118137
For a list of GTK3 shortcomings one needs look no further than the GTK3 filepicker.
It is a literal smorgasbord of fail.
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>>61118197
taskel not found
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>>61118216
Make stupid questions, get stupid answers.
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wtf do people give a shit about the file picker?
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>>61118192
>>61118203
Most likely a GTK3 issue.

They changed their theme engine at some point and completely broke all older themes. If this is the case for that theme then you're lucky you can even read anything.
Usually themes come with both GTK2 and GTK3 themes, so if that theme was working for you before and isn't now then you may have either been using the same applications compiled with GTK2, or an older version.
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>>61118234
Do you even know what website you're using right now?
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>>61118265
?
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>>61118250
It only happens on this computer. it still looks fine on my older Arch machine and on recently installed Xubuntu machine using same theme files.
Also GTK+ Widget Factory looks normal. It appears to affect only some programs like xfce4 settings.
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>>61118203
>>61118192

You are missing some GTK2 theme engine, most likely gtk2-murrine. It should be mentioned in the Numix README.

>>61118250

You're an idiot. This has nothing to do with GTK3. He is using Xfce and they're still using GTK2. GTK3 doesn't use theme engines.
Stop posting if you don't have knowledge, idiot. Stop spreading misinformation.

>>61118219

It has the same "shortcomings" as the GTK2 one, idiot.

>>61118232

It's not a stupid question, idiot. You made a claim and I challenged you to prove it (effectively proving that you have no idea what you're talking about because you claimed to be able to distinguish GTK2 and 3 programs, but you couldn't).
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>>61118271
Not him, but I was asking earlier about replacing the GtkFilePicker because it doesn't show thumbnails. Nautilus uses KDialog, which does show thumbnails when a program opens the file picker. This has been so commonly complained about that it is literally a meme at this point. Gnome developers have never done anything to try and fix this either, not even recognizing the issue as legitimate. Basically, they don't fucking care.

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/File_Picker_meme
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>>61118308
Sorry, meant Dolphin not Nautilus.
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>>61118308

>Nautilus uses KDialog
No, it doesn't you retard. Why are you still posting? Nautilus is a GTK3 program and it uses the GTK3 file dialog.
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>>61118321
see >>61118319
Calm down kid.
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>>61118321
If you weren't eager to jump in defense of your precious GTK3 you would've seen the next post.
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>>61118307
>It has the same "shortcomings" as the GTK2 one, idiot.
lol, retarde alert
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>>61118307
GTK3 shit has bad integration and uses more resources. That's just the start, I can't be arsed to remember everything that breaks, gets "fixed", then breaks again between versions.
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How to I install jdk in Slackware 14.2? I've followed the Slackbuilds.readme,installed it, and everytime in bash/konsole it doesn't recognize the "java" command. using kde and jdk8
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>>61118307
>You are missing some GTK2 theme engine, most likely gtk2-murrine. It should be mentioned in the Numix README.
Thanks man
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>>61118360

Nice buzzphrase "shit integration". What does it mean?

>more resources
Got objective data which proves that is uses significantly more resources?

> I can't be arsed to remember everything that breaks, gets "fixed", then breaks again between versions.
Because you don't know of such things from usage. Maybe you could go to the bug tracker and look for something to back up your preemptive "argument".

People like you (there might be multiple people posting) are ruining these threads or the internet in general with your idiotic meme, myth and misinformation spreading. If you have no first-hand knowledge or experience, don't regurgitate memes and wrong facts you see on g, idiot.
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>>61118424
It's /g/. Never forget the strokes.

That is all.
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Look like we got a GTK3 developer in this thread folks
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>>61118494

>i have no arguments to back up my wrong and retarded claims, so i'll just accuse him of being tied to the thing he's proving me wrong about

I get called that whenever I challenge some idiot to prove his meme opinions about something.
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>>61118424
>"shit integration". What does it mean?
You just said yourself that it doesn't work with themes. Plus the problems with tooltips, notifications and the new borders/titlebar implementation.

>significantly more resources?
A notable lag in PDF readers and other GTK3 apps that disappears using previous GTK2 versions.

>Because you don't know of such things from usage.
Rignt now I see no buttons in my scrollbars. But you'll probably say "it's a featue, not a bug".

>people like you (there might be multiple people posting) are ruining these threads
People like you are ruining the Linux community with your retarded "vision".
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>>61118530
>A notable lag in PDF readers
pdf readers in current year? Get with the times old man.
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Guys, come on. It doesn't matter what's shit and what isn't. That's the beauty of linux, right? People can use whatever they want.
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>>61118530

>You just said yourself that it doesn't work with themes
What did I say? It works with themes. I use themes with GTK3. Just because you're an idiot who can't follow threaded replies to see that the guy's issue has been fixed, doesn't mean GTK3 is broken.

>A notable lag in PDF readers and other GTK3 apps that disappears using previous GTK2 versions.
And that's a GTK3 issue? I don't even know which lag you're talking about, most likely some placebo effect. Prove that there is a "lag" and then prove that it's coming from GTK3 and not some other library that the other program is using.

>Rignt now I see no buttons in my scrollbars. But you'll probably say "it's a featue, not a bug".
There are buttons in my GTK3 scrollbars, idiot. It's not a bug, it's a feature of the theme you're using.

>People like you are ruining the Linux community with your retarded "vision".
It's not my vision, idiot. I am just proving your idiotic claims wrong. I have no vision and I am not developing anything.
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>>61118571
Except non-libre softwares of course.
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>>61118571
>That's the beauty of linux, right? People can use whatever they want.
Not on my watch.
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>>61118597
True
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>>61118604

Then move out of his house if he's bullying you.
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>>61118576
>It's not a bug, it's a feature of the theme you're using.
Like clockwork.
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pls don't fight with each other linux friends
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>>61118604
That's right Lenny, drag these fools into the future.
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>>61118424
>myth and misinformation spreading
What do people gain from claiming GTK3 doesn't work correctly? What makes so much people lie about this specific thing according to you?
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>>61118604
*blocks your path*
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>>61118661

I don't care about GTK3. That sentence was meant in general in these threads.

About GTK3: any claim made by that idiot so far. First he claimed that he can distinguish GTK2 and 3 programs. Then he blamed a GTK2 "issue" on GTK3. Then he made claims that GTK3 uses more resources without backing up such claim. Then he said GTK3 doesn't have buttons in scrollbars and being proven wrong. The list goes on.
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Why do people hate KDE so much? I'm running it on pic related for a month now and I have to say, that I'm pretty satisfied with it.
Admittedly, I've had plasma crash twice in that time, but since it immediately recovered that wasn't a problem at all

I guess it's not fit for people that want to tweak a lot, for that there's far better DEs. If that's not a problem for you, I'd really encourage people to give it a try
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>>61118715
We are still hurting from KDE4.
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>>61118687
>First he claimed that he can distinguish GTK2 and 3 programs
Not from your screenshot that completely misses the point.

>Then he blamed a GTK2 "issue" on GTK3
That wasn't me.

>I don't care about GTK3
Suuure.
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>>61118715
>I've had plasma crash twice
this is one of the many reasons.
Other desktop environments don't crash.
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>>61118731
I never used KDE4, what was the problem there? Was it so bad?
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>>61118733

How does it miss the point?
See >>61117914 and

>You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a GTK2 and GTK3 program
>Painfully untrue.

Then I proceed to post the identical program using both toolkits, which is THE case to test this. He then proceeds to not tell them apart, because he can't.

>That wasn't me.
Good for you.

>Suuure.
Nice arguments, meme and myth spreader. You're so smart, we're all stupid.
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What are the disadvantages of experimenting with Linux in a VM apart from worse performance? Being a Windows fag for 20 years I fear of bricking my machine from going too balls deep.
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>>61118715
I think KDE is better than gnome currently, but that might change once Ubuntu drops support for Unity and switches over to gnome. If gnome gets a lot more polish from developers after that, and they release a newer version of it or something that has things like a better file picker, then it could come out on top.
Honestly I kinda fucked up by installing gnome when I installed Debian 9, but I didn't realize the file picker meme was real until it was too late and I got settled in. I really don't want to spend another week fucking with my system to get it to where it is now by starting with a fresh KDE install, but I also don't really want to bloat my system by installing KDE on top of gnome and then apt-get removing gnome, since it will still leave behind a lot of redundant crap I can't be bothered to keep track of. I'll just stick it out with inferior gnome and hope Ubuntu saves us all.
>>
After using arch-anywhere for 2 years, I moved to Antergos. Have I commited a sin?
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>>61118767
nothing, just dogshit performance for anything that isn't cpu bound ie. you'll have a bad time trying out kde/gnome/unity because they kind of need gpu acceleration
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>>61118749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4#Reception
The hangover from kde4 lessened the impact of gnome pulling the same shit a few years later.
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>>61118785
Gnome is not going to get a lot of polish from anyone because Gnome3 reached end of development and 3.22 or 3.24 (i can't remember) is the last major version. From now on it's just minor version releases, bugfixes and whatnot.
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>>61118767
I'm actually not sure about it, but I could imagine that problems due to missing drivers might not be noticeable in a VM.

If available for the distribution you want to try, why not first have a look at a live version of it?
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>>61118807
I doubt that gnome is just going to die, if that's what you're saying. It's still the dominant DE in the linux community and there's no reason for developers to just stop developing improvements for it.
>>
lxde ftw
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>>61118835
>I doubt that gnome is just going to die, if that's what you're saying.
Not at all. They're already working on Gnome 4.
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>>61118842
>They're already working on Gnome 4.
the fuck? Just when gnome 3 actually became usable with extensions
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>>61118842
Well that's kind of what I meant then. I imagine Ubuntu is moving over to gnome because they're betting on that horse, and whatever they bet on, a lot of people will follow suit and bet on, which means more developer support in the future.
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>>61118752
>meme and myth spreader
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>>61118846
Yeah, fucking ridiculous. People still use GTK2 in 2017 because GTK3 was too shit to convince everyone to make the switch. Can't wait for all the fuckery when Gnome4 hits the market and once again everyone will be forced to hunt gtk2/gtk3/gtk4 themes that look consistent
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>>61118785
I don't think Canonical will have that much influence over the development of GNOME, unfortunately, aside from maybe introducing more extensions. The GNOME developers are arrogant and stubborn as fuck and they don't accept any kind of community feedback. It was the reason why Canonical felt the need to make Unity in the first place.
>>
Does anybody subscribe to any linux magazines? I read linux format at the bookstore and it was pretty nice
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>>61118846

>working on GNOME 4
[citation needed]
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>>61118981

Meant for >>61118842.

>>61118874

>because GTK3 was too shit to convince everyone to make the switch
People complained about GNOME 3, idiot. GNOME is not GTK3. One is a desktop environment, one is a GUI toolkit.
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>>61118992
Here we go again.

>but I don't care about GTK3, I swear!
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>>61119011

>i'll just keep being an idiot who doesn't know the difference between a desktop environment and gui toolkit
What are you trying to prove? How stupid you are?
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>>61118914
Yeah... that's actually a really solid point.
Fuck, maybe I will just reinstall everything and switch to a fresh Debian 9 + KDE system. All I'm losing is about a week of ricing and configuring my programs but I guess there's no reason to stick with gnome anymore.
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holy fucking shit linux format is 200 dollars a year
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>>61119132
That's normal. Magazine subscriptions are expensive.
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>>61119180
Mexican here. Similar magazines are about 5 dollars here and we consider that expensive.
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>>61119207
*5 per issue.
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The /g/ wiki says arch is unstable and pacman is shit. I've been using arch since 2013 and experienced almost no instability ( only KDE and custom patchset kernels which needed nvidia driver rebuilt with every uodate. Sometime nvidia driver package was broken. Lile two times in a year at most. ) . Pacman is fine IMO, too. Are these issues historical, or I'm very lucky?

Pic not related.
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>>61119207
>Mexican here
Kill yourself
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Is it a good idea to foramt my sd card for android as ext4? i mean android is gnu/linux, my pc is also gnu/linux then why the fuck should my sd card be disgustingly FAT?
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Do you need X running to launch VM?
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>>61119490
You're not gaining any benefits from it unless you're planning to store shit larger than fat32 maximum filesize.

fat32 is great just for compatibility sake.
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>>61119532
the problem is the card breaks every two fucking weeks and i have to pull it out, stick it into my windows laptop and let it repair it
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>>61119525
no, virtual machine managers work just fine from the commandline.
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>>61119544
But it can't run the graphical VM?
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>>61119642
No?
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>>61114315

Can you guys update your install instructions? I am most comfortable with installing from ISO but it's deprected, and your chroot install process defaults to making over 9000 partitions of like 512 megabytes each which is not something I am interested in, and I do not know if I'm required to do that to run Source Mage.

I want to use Source Mage, but I'm getting set back by these things.
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>>61117058
the fuck is happening here
>>
First time novice user here, installed the KDE Sabayon distro of Gentoo on one older machine and liking it's performance and customization compared to some others.

However I'm finding the WiFi connection is intolerably slow and I'm not exactly sure how to start troubleshooting it. It connects fine but it's so slow I can barely open a webpage or the wiki let alone do any updates.

I know it has to be Gentoo specific since I've tested Manjaro and Opensuse as well whose WiFi works at full speed.
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>>61119806

Listing strings from the sudo files. Turn on the option for sudo to insult you when you get it wrong. Those are the strings.
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>>61113830
Finally got rid of Memesoft's botnet. So, what are essentials for Debian?
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>>61119715

I'm doing some more fiddling, and booting Source Mage from ISO image on a virtual machine works perfectly, but dd-ing it onto a USB makes it fail.

What the fuck?
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>>61119954
getting rid of systemdicks
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>>61120070
what could i replace it with? to be honest i don't get why people hate it. then again i'm ignorant.
>>
Is there a single bit of linux video editing software that either works without shitting itself or doesn't have a bizarre workflow that's going to take me days to get used to?
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>>61120269
lwks
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>>61119954
I'm not sure if it's only a KDE thing, but disable flat volumes for pulseaudio, shit's dangerous.
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>>61119954
Welcome ~. Here is your rare stallmans starter-pack;
wget -nc -nd -nv -re robots=off -ERhtml -Ajpg,JPG rms.sexy/img


Happy hacking.
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>>61120159
Systemd is fine, they're just being pretentious neckbeards memeing to fit in. Systemd being shit is almost as much of a meme as installing gentoo.
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>>61120295

It depends on your distribution: how the pulseaudio packager sets the option. It's off on Arch.
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>>61120340
>Systemd is fine
>>
can someone shed some light onto the systemd thing? in retard friendly, slow language?
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>>61119984
Did you set the boot flag?
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>>61120271
I haven't been able to get that to work at all on arch. Main version or beta.
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>>61120356
What I meant was that I'm not sure whether it causes problems on DEs other than KDE. If it's distro specific, Debian 9 has it turned on by default.
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I'm having job interview next week for a R&D team in a company working on datastorage software. Entry level work, related to checking and testing new ideas as an administrator. You think lab and DS is a good idea or it's better to look longer for general admin/devops job? I have less than a year of experience.
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>>61120451
any job is better than no job.
I'd take it just to see what's up
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>>61119490
>i mean android is gnu/linux
It isn't. There's no GNU in that.
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>>61120333
Thanks, mate.
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>>61120387
systemd manages all your shit under one umbrella, so if it crashes then your whole system crashes. This has led super autistic neckbeards to hate it for the sake of new totally unwarranted and unjustified memes. Now it has become a meme to hate systemd, and since you're posting on 4chan, you better fucking hate it or else you get ostracized real quick.
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>>61120475
I'm already employed as an assistant/junior admin but salary is shit, company cut additional training and there isn't much going on lately to learn from new projects. I'm kinda on the fence switching from BAU to lab. I don't want to end up in another dead-end job.
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>>61120478
>There's no GNU in that.
That implies that you need a specific amount of GNU in order to have GNU/Linux, but it's the other way around: You need to have a specific amount of kernel to have GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, etc. Following your logic, I'm indeed running Android GNU/Linux, since I've installed coreutils. Let's not follow this logic.
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>>61120567
>Following your logic, I'm indeed running Android GNU/Linux, since I've installed coreutils.
not really, because when you modify on your operating system, it's already a custom operating system, not vanilla android
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>>61120387
You can read about it in the without-systemd.org wiki. It's mostly a collection of resources rather than a single, coherent writeup, but among the links you should be able to find some arguments that speak to you.
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>>61120589
>>61120567
Beautiful autism, guys. That's why I come here every day. :^)
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>>61120608
I'm doing my best.
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>android
What would be a good solution for remote controlling mpd from mm phone. Anyone tried something like this?
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>>61120567
Android does not descend from GNU. It is a fully new user space built on top of linux. GNU isn't any OS that you install some GNU software in, it's any OS that directly descends from the GNU OS. You're falling for the "software with most lines of code gets to name the OS" flawed argument: GNU/Linux isn't called that becase of the % of lines of code of each, but because it is the result of adding Linux to the GNU OS.
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Trying to decide what filemanger to use fot stumpwm.

I'm thinking PCmanFM. Any recommendations?
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>>61120648
Just ssh
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>>61120656
urxvt
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>>61120656
It's either pcmanfm or thunar.
PCmanFM in general is a lot nicer, has more features (like dual panel view), handles icons better (icon support for network devices been broken in thunar for the last 8 years or so) aaand pcmanfm has painless integration with archive manager that aren't file-roller. So if you want to keep your desktop consistent and use GTK2 you can install atril from mate and enjoy that.

Thunar does one thing better. The file transfer dialog shows you the transfer speed.
in PCmanFM you only get a progress bar and a shitty estimated time left which is rarely accurate.
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>>61120669
I see so PCmanFM still has issues huh. Well the progress bar thing isn't an issue as long as it works.

I'm just looking for something stable and has a decent amount of features and I remember getting PCmanFM getting working pretty well before.
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>>61120694
pcmanfm is stable.
Just don't get surprised when pcmanfm closes the window (like a crash) when you unmount an external storage device while browsing said external storage device. Initially I thought it was broken, but it just closes the folder that no longer exist, and if it's the only tab you have, it closes the program itself
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What's a good screen recorder for making webms I can post on chinese imageboards?
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How can I convert videos to 60fps on Gahnoo+loonix
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>>61120567
>being this blue pilled
The stallman memes have really done a good job on /g/ over the years.
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>>61120781
https://github.com/DoTheEvo/screen-capture-general
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>>61117058
Just what do you think you're doing Dave?
It can only be attributed to human error.
That's something I cannot allow to happen.
My mind is going. I can feel it.
Sorry about this, I know it's a bit silly.
Take a stress pill and think things over.
This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.
We'll all be murdered in our beds!
You can't come in. Our tiger has got flu
What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what?
You can't get the wood, you know.
... and it used to be so popular...
Pauses for audience applause, not a sausage
Hold it up to the light --- not a brain in sight!
There's a lot of it about, you know.
You do that again and see what happens...
Harm can come to a young lad like that!
And with that remarks folks, the case of the Crown vs yourself was proven.
Speak English you fool --- there are no subtitles in this scene.
It's only your word against mine.
I think ... err ... I think ... I think I'll go home
My pet ferret can type better than you!
Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it?
Maybe if you used more than just two fingers...
BOB says: You seem to have forgotten your passwd, enter another!
I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler.
The more you drive -- the dumber you get.
Listen, burrito brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.
I've seen penguins that can type better than that.
Have you considered trying to match wits with a rutabaga?
You speak an infinite deal of nothing
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>>61120781
I just use ffmpeg with a hotkey to start and a hotkey to stop recording. For selecting a region you can use programs like xrectsel or slop.
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>>61120654
Disregard this post, I replied in a hurry and failed to fully grasp the post I was replying to. Other anon was correct.
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>tfw Ring is now a GNU project
What do you think of Ring?
https://ring.cx/
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>>61120963
Interesting.
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>>61120963
I'm actually using it, but it's hard to compete with stuff like Skype and WhatsApp. Your friends need to care at least a little bit and most just don't, which makes it pretty difficult.
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>>61119850
maybe don't use a meme distro?
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>>61120963
Fuck that's harsh.
But a huge success for GNU and FSF. I hope they won't fuck it up.
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>>61121045
That post wan't really useful. I didn't got any new information nor did I laugh. Please stop posting.
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What is the proper way to auto mount smb and sftp shares?
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>>61121149
automount on startup?
probably fstab.
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>>61121174
We in the free software movement don't think of the open source camp as an enemy; the enemy is proprietary (nonfree) software.
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>>61121256
>Sup faggots, my name is Richard and you're all[...]
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buying passive gpu for ryzen, just multimonitor setup desktop, no gaming

AMD r5 230
vs
nVidia gt 710

which one and why?
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Some people say they dont like the "Linux Community". What is wrong with it? I don't get it

t. regular anon
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>>61121334

Literally the same thing that's wrong with any community.

It's just technology flavoured, is all.
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>>61121334
Ask those who say that. We are not mind readers.

now go install gentoo, you digusting normie and I kill myself if you call it linux community again and not gnu+linux community!
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>>61121361
sorry Stallman
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>>61121334
Welcome to /g/. Technology topics include circlejerking about which software is better and why the other guy must be retarded for using inferior software. Shitting on others choice of software is highly informative because people search for any little flaw or benefit a piece of software could have, which helps us to find the very best software and how to improve our own projects.
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>>61121430
REEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>61121386
Did he uninstall Arch yet?
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>>61121386
>>61121174
post source on satire blog, it seems funny
>>
how can I make my android dumb so it doesn't spy
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>>61121497
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/5-questions-asking-future-ubuntu#comment-3297943160
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>>61120963
> 4 November 2016
> Ring BĂȘta 2 is now available
Almost like it's abandoned.
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>>61121564
omgubuntu
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>>61121560
install a privacy oriented custom ROM, Replicant or similar.

Keep in mind that some phones has a proprietary GSM firmware that has full access to everything and you cannot do anything against it.
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>>61121578
lastest commit is 15 hours ago
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>>61121560
You can't.
A phone by definition is a tracking device because it's functioning relies on being connected to a radio mast.
Just by having access to the basic metadata about gsm connectivity you can pinpoint the location of a phone.
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>>61121032
Yes, it's always the friends' fault. I have tried very hard to get my friend to use IRC to communicate with me, but he just goes back to using Shitbook.
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>>61121256
What's this from?
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>>61121321
I'd go AMD once the amdgpu drivers supports it well. AMD actually give a fug about libre drivers, I heard they even employ programmers to work on them.
>>
make -j1 new_thread
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>>61121702
yeah, but the problem is that the cheap passive AMD cards being sold now are not even GCN1

so some legacy ATI drivers will be used for that
which does not feel very reassuring

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#AMD
>>
New thread? New thread: >>61121723
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>>61121729
>so some legacy ATI drivers will be used for that

the libre radeon driver is quite mature bro. It got some serious improvements in the recent years.
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>>61121032
>>61121668
You know, I want to tell you to get the fuck out for having friends, but the truth is that if only people with no one to talk to use freedom and privacy-respecting tools their future is rather bleak. So, by all means, don't let me stop you from killing yourselves as you ought to, but until you do, keep fighting the good fight.
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>>61121719
>[/code]-j1[/code]
Totally unnecessary, since it's the default.
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>>61121751
>for having friends
>plural
I only have one friend, and I don't talk to him that much.
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>>61121750
yes, RADEON driver
but as I said not even GCN1
what they sell as their low tier is chip rebranded few times and actually it was released in 2011
so while new amd drivers for lets say rx570 might be great, I dont have such confidence in drivers for r5 230
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>>61120387
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Adoption_and_reception

Additionally, if you ever had problems with PulseAudio then you should know both projects were made and pushed by the same egomaniac >>61118604.
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/g/uys, I'm using mu4e and org-mode and things have been great, but now that I'm required to send mail with quite a bit of HTML I'm running into problems.

org-mime is installed but support for mu4e appears to be deprecated. Most guides I have found seem to be outdated as wl. Any recommendations as far as getting mu4e and Org working better together goes? Should I just switch to Gnus at this point? It isn't like mu4e was very fun to set up anyway.
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Void or Arch for my x220?
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>>61121321
Intel HD graphics :^)
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