/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>60859485
Are there other clip-on earphones that have better sound quality than Koss KSC75 that is less than 50$?

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Surgery time

>Budget:
€ 150
>Location:
Netherlands
>Source:
Samsung Galaxy s6
>Type of
headphone: Bluetooth
>Open or
closed: Closed
>Comfort
level: Anything that doesn't makes my ears hurt
>Sound signature:
Neutral
>Past headphones:
Sennheiser 205

>>60859485
awful art

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Culprit found

>>60859485
How the FUCK did her shirt get in between those cables? Pretty sure that's impossible.
There's no way it could've been done by accident, if it even can be done, she did it on purpose.

>>60859634
Detachable cable, my man.

>>60859627
>>>/d/
>>>/cm/
>>>/lgbt/

>>60859645
Still could not have been done by accident.

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How come headphone FR never look this flat?

>>60859634
>shirt
Looks like a little rag tied around her back more than anything.

>>60859649
Did you draw that? Because it's absolute garbage.

>>60859670
Your taste is absolute trash.
No I didn't draw it, of course not.

>>60859665
>heavily smoothed graph

hmm

>>60859665
They're not measured the same way, is why.

>>60859485
Should I bother upgrading from my ATH-M40.
They leak a lot of noise.

http://theheadphonelist.com/earphone-buyers-guide/

Should this be added to the wiki and/or OP? It's a decent guide on IEMs.

>>60859632
what's happening here? I'm retarded

>>60859665
They could with a highly accurate HRTF model and equalization. Headphones would have better LF response. They need to be corrected for each listener individually.

Flat on-axis anechoic response of loudspeakers is an easy task. Managing response in a room is hard, particularly so you want a large sweet spot. It's aided by good directivity characteristics but below Schroeder frequency you'll need treatment and possibly equalization.

>>60859690
Clearly not heavily smoothed.

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Be free my pretties!

>>60859774
Non detachable cable to detachable cable mod my man

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Gonna have to cut out some of the plastic housing and metal grill to make fit but should be doable.

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Ezpz
Time to wire this up and put the clip and grill back on.

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Who wants to rage at my EQ for the DT880?
Audibly linear to 25hz, treble spike is gone, midrange is back. I might add 1-2db more above 12khz. The treble adjustment kills that range a bit.

>>60859485
are we just going to pretend that pic isnt nudity?

>>60859477
A PS4 controller won't adequately power the 250 Ohm version. Just get some cheap $10 headphones if you're plugging it into a PS4 controller. It's not like you're going to get good sound through Bluetooth.

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>>60859485
>Budget
$60
>Location
US
>Source
My computer USB port (Standard A)
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As long as it doesnt crush my ears
>Sound signature
Unsure, open for suggestions and recommendations

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And the cancer has been successfully removed from the patient

>>60859546
No. KSC75 sound better than most headphones at any price point.

>>60860222
You could probably develop more precise treble spike removal via listening to a sine wave generator.

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Welp, they just came in the mail
Anything you guys wanna see?

Recommend sombre good RF headphones that don't cut off the sound below a certain decibel or can be tuned.

>>60860591
Yeah, post unboxing and initial impressions

>>60860591
Refund

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what is a DAC that best compliments the HD600s?
Right now I have an Audiobox USB and it doesn't seem like it boasts the power for them.

I don't know shit about this pls excuse me if I'm wrong.

>>60860645
What's your budget?

>>60860672
Let's say within $100

>>60860645
DAC is completely unrelated to headphones. They don't pair, they don't compliment.

>>60860645
The most affordable way to get transparent audio with plenty of headroom for quiet sources with the HD600 is the following:
https://hifimediy.com/tiny-dac
http://schiit.com/products/magni-2
Connect the tiny DAC to your PC, connect the Magni to the tiny DAC, connect your headphones to the Magni.

>Budget
200 Freedom dollars
>Location
Merica
>Source
Phone bluetooth
>Type of headphone
Wireless iem for working out
>Open or closed
Closed does not have to be noise canceling
>Comfort level
Comfy please
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Samsung level wireless

>>60860785
earpods desu

>>60860785
Jaybird X3?

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>budget
$250 USD, lower is better
>location
Eastern USA
>source
Fiio e07k and Galaxy S7
>Type
Wired, detachable cable preferred but not a big deal
>Style
Open
>Comfort
Must be very comfortable, one of the reasons I want to upgrade
>Signature
Neutral, or slightly pronounced low end. Avoid sparkling / pronounced highs
>Past headphones
Pic related

I was considering something from the Open back audio Technica line, maybe the 1000x's. Looking for something open for better ventilation and staging, and loose clamping force for better comfort than my current m40x
Sorry for the lazy shop, using some shitty mobile app from a remote location at the moment.

>>60860478
plz respond /g/

>>60860889
K712 though has 2 treble peaks that can considered "bright" to some.
>>60860900
Somic MM185
662 EVO

>>60860931
The k712 is way above my listed budget Anon. Did you mean the 702?

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>ifi iDSD Nano + Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro
Feels good man, but surely I can do better?

>>60860889
How uncomfortable would you say the m40x are?
Asking since I'm getting a pair after my previous headphones broke.

>>60860942
702 is nice if you can get a consistent seal though has some pronounced treble.

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>>60860974
They are very comfortable except I have a slightly deformed ear and they hit the corner of the pads. And the band padding is a little thin, but not enough to notice really.
For reference, I have had them since they came out and I'm only now considering upgrading because I came into some extra cash
I still wear them 4-8 hours a day

>>60860997
Not my style then really desu senpai~

>>60860889
Save a little more and get an HD600 then never upgrade again.

>>60861038
I see, thanks a lot.

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>>60861052
Except they will break at the band then I will need to buy another set for (((too much money)))

>>60861061
No problem, I really suggest them to people a lot, they're great sounding. The only thing I would consider is changing out for nice pads after a while once the stick ones get worn out

>>60861084
Stock*

>>60860889
HD 650

>>60861099
Did you not read the budget?

>>60861105
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>Budget:
$300
>Location:
Chile
>Source:
pc/o2+odac
>Type of headphone:
over-ear
>Open or closed:
>open
>Comfort level:
comfy
>Sound signature:
Neutral or bassy, wide soundstage

>>60861105
Not him, but you can easily find them used for around $200. It does sound like exactly what you're looking for.

>>60860889
monolith m560

>>60861138
iBasso D-Zero + Grado SR-60
Y los dos los puedes comprar en Mediaplayer. Hasta despachan a domicilio.

>>60861084
>they will break at the band
They won't if you properly stretch them first. You just need to extend the earcups all the way on both sides then carefully bend the now exposed metal until the clamp on your head is lessened but sufficient. They will never snap if you do this when you buy them.
They're often on sale for a price in your stated price range or close to it, too.

>>60860645
Just grab the schiit stack. Pairs well with HD600 and is all you'll ever need.

>>60859485
MODS please. Lets keep this board safe for work.

>>60861174
Gracias!, aunque si es para compras nacionales mi presupuesto seria de 300lukas considerando que pagamos casi luka el dollar para importar;
actualmente tengo los beyerdynamic custom one pro asi que no se como se comparen contra los grado SR-60

>>60861140
I am a big fan of buying used, but not when it comes to things that will be touching my face...

>>60861205
Sounds like a design flaw to me
(((Also it's a meme, I don't expect them to break on me)))
As I stated in the first post, less expensive is better and I don't want to buy something that will be pushing the boundaries of what I *could* spend.
If anything, I would prefer sub-$200, but if there is something for under $250 that is a great deal I would consider it.

>>60860497
Change the inside shitty cable too -_-
Or give to side jack

>>60861236
fuck off
T H I C K is love
T H I C K is life

>>60861236
drink bleach

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>>60861084
>>60861205
To be very clear, extend the earcups all the way, grab the circled metal part and only the circled metal part between your thumb and forefinger at the top and bottom of the exposed metal, and carefully bend each side in a manner which pulls the earcup away from the other. You want to lessen the clamp as much as you can without going so far as to make it so they don't stay in one place on your head.
The headbands crack because you have to stretch the plastic every time you put them on at default clamping force, eventually causing a stress fracture at the top. Lessen the clamping force and this will never occur.

>>60861294
My nigga

>>60861236
>browsing 4chan at work
you should be fired regardless

>>60861290
It is a design flaw, but it is an easily remedied design flaw.
I'd look into the HD558, HD559, HD579, HD598 and HD599 if you are really strict with your budget. Sennheiser is the way to go if you want to avoid sparkling/pronounced highs.

>>60861350
Have you tried the ad1000x? Only reason I ask is because I looked into buying them a few years ago and they still seem enticing.
I'm not a fan of any specific company over another, just products

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>>60860628
So got lazy and didn't want to do inbox in but initial impressions are
>how the fuck do I wear these?
>which side is left and right?
>oh its on the cables
>*Googles how to put iems in*
>wew I can't hear shit with these
>hey 24 bit FLAC sounds dank
>whoa sub bass in iems
Breddy gud/10

>>60861290
You wear your headphones on your face?

>>60861370
Haven't tried them. There's no frequency response available for them it seems, too. I did find this, though:
>that said, the AD1000X still has the characteristically airy highs of the rest of the AD line and still is not well suited for hot recordings.
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/review-comparison-ath-ad900x-vs-ath-ad1000x-vs-mdr-ma900-its-still-over-900.654161/
If that review is any indication you may wish to avoid it.

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>>60859485
Opinions on the ODAC+AMP?

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>>60861483
Sabre mini + Magni 2 won't sound any different and will be $100 less.

>>60861483
Mediocre.

>>60860753
I used to use one of those dacs with my old akg setup. I'm currently using a fulla 2 as my dac and a magni as my amp. I wonder if that dac could replace my fulla and sound exactly the same? obviously you would agree but most wouldn't. Dacs are weird.

>>60861509
>I wonder if that dac could replace my fulla and sound exactly the same?
It will. DACs are the new expensive cables. Total fucking snakeoil.

>>60861532
You seem very keen on your new dac+magni combo. I would need to hear multiple opinions. I do like the outputs on my fulla though. If I ever drop those needs I might try a cheap hifidiyme or whatever they're called again.

>>60861509
Just do A/B tests yourself and compare DACs. There may be some differences between a $100 DAC and a $2000 DAC and you can judge whether it's worth spending 20x for it.

>>60861656
I know nothing on a technical level. How do you a/b test? do I need any equipment? pls respond.

>>60861532
Cables are snake oil, I agree, but the implementation of the DAC chip does matter.

>>60861820
>the implementation of the DAC chip does matter.
Elaborate. To me, either it's transparent or it's not.

>>60859485
>FILE DELETED
Fucking faggot mods

Based mods banning anime shit from /hpg/ op!

>>60859588
>>60859632
>>60859791
>>60859932
>>60860135
>AD with detachable cable cable instead of the huge stock cable
Niice, what cable are you going to use now? I'd get a coiled cable for it, love coiled cables.

>>60861505
how so?

>>60861869
hownu.ru

/hpg/ has had anime OPs since the very beginning

>>60862040
It's evolved. Time to leave the trash in the past

>>60861376
>24 bit
What a pointless waste of storage space.
>>60862069
I think you should go discuss headphones on a website that wasn't created for the purpose of its creator having a place to talk about anime and manga with his friends.

>>60862069
I've got just the place for you

/r/headphones

You'll fit in fine.

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>>60862069

>>60861084
>snap
No.
>worried
Breaking sennheiser headbands is not impossible; You could trow a brick on it and it would probably break. But it is unlikely, nevermind the troll that specializes on posting such pictures.
Re: stretching people suggest against the clamp, you could simply do nothing; they stretch naturally with use. It hurt for me on the first couple days, but that's about it. It's been months and they barely press at all anymore.

>>60861483
Nice and open hardware. But not very competitively priced.
The schiit stack, or even just the fulla2, are way stronger / cost contenders.

>>60862140
>you could simply do nothing; they stretch naturally with use.
This will stretch the plastic naturally too. It's best to just stretch the metal right off the bat to minimize the amount of stress on the plastic.

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>>60862160
>>60862125

>>60862140
>>60862154

The fuck, are you guys pussies?

From day one my HD600 has been comfortable, yes it has a bit of clamp but that's because it's designed around providing a consistent seal.

FYI:

HD600 contact pressure: 2.5N
DT880 Pro contact pressure: 3.5N
DT880 Edition (Premium) contact pressure: 2.8N
HD280 Pro contact pressure: 6N (kek)

>>60862205
HD600 is tight to begin with. Stretching the band fixes it in 2 minutes. There'es literally nothing to talk about. It's the most comfortable headphone around after it's been stretched a little.

>>60862205
Good for you, I've always been too autistic for headphones and it's only since three years ago that I've started to acclimate to them. All my previous experiences were insta-headache. HD598, after a few weeks of use, changed my perspective.
HD600... physical pain on the first couple days of use. So much pain it remained after removing headphones. I still tortured myself because they sound so fucking good. Thankfully it went away, and as I got used to the sound, I appreciate them even more. They might be the best item I've ever bought.

>>60859485
>Please put some effort into your requests and questions.
>thread doesnt even have a picture

come on man

>>60862244
I've used more comfortable headphones than the HD600. The problem with the HD600 is that the earcups aren't roomy as other headphones. Even the lower models like HD598 are more comfortable. That's not to say they aren't comfy, it's just not the best from my experiences.
>>60862246
Good for you, shill-kun.

>>60862265
OP Pic died not long ago cuz it was getting a bit lewd (slight nip slight waifu)

How much of a headlet do you have to be for the clamp on the 600 to physically hurt you

>>60862273
>The problem with the HD600 is that the earcups aren't roomy as other headphones.
Contact with ears never been an issue with mine. Contact with head was, when new.
>shill-kun
Loving the HD600 doesn't make someone a shill.

>>60862205
I'm not recommending stretching the metal solely to relieve clamp. I'm primarily recommending reducing the clamp by stretching the metal only to prevent headband snapping.

>>60862298
My head isn't particularly round/wide. I'm also fit. My ears are, if anything, on the small side.
But I do wear glasses, which definitely doesn't help. Still, its support bars do touch the head, so they don't make much of a difference with headphones.

>>60862298
This.
>>60862307
It touches my ears which are normal sized but it doesn't bother me. If comfort is someone's end game, I'd suggest HD800. Yes it's heaver but the way it distributes weight is amazing. Almost like wearing nothing at all. It does sound like garbage however, but EQ can fix that easily.
>>60862359
Eyelet.

>>60862374
>Almost like wearing nothing at all
I agree about that. Now that I've used them for a few months, they're even more comfortable than the HD598 were. And it was already easy to forget I was wearing those.

>>60862273
The 600's are big and cover the ears easily, unless you're talking about depth? If you have problems with either then I'm sorry to say, but you have massive ears. The 600's earpad shape are massive compared to nearly everything.

>>60862427
Yes, depth.

>>60862481
Fair enough. I don't know of any good headphones with deeper pads than the 600/702/k712/x2/dt770

i have the HD598s. i know i'm hitting diminishing returns here but what would be next logical upgrade be for me?

>>60862701
I haven't been here for a while but I feel that if I suggest the 600 I will be hounded. Get the fucking 600.

name me a pair of headphones you could wear for a week straight

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>>60859485
What's /g/'s opinion on the AT ATH-A900X? I got them for Christmas and like the wing design since I have an average sized head and they don't slip off.
Also, I accidentally bent the 3.5mm jack and now I have to spin the jack precisely to get audio out of both sides instead of one. Is replacing it easy?

>>60862701
Probably one of the classic trio (HD 600/DT880/K702) if you want muh neutrality.
>>60862771
CB-1/HM5

>>60862701
HD650

>>60862701
HD600. They blow the HD598 out of the water.
And they're the only headphones you'll ever need.

>>60862701
What do you want?

Does anyone have microphonics problems with the SHP9500S? Is there any way to solve it? It's pretty fucking annoying since I use them all day.

>>60862841
Yeah, just solder a new one on.

>>60863606
microphonics is a cable issue, not a headphone issue. Buy a different cable and see if it's better.

>>60862771
MDR-MA900

>>60863606
Headphone clip. Put it on your collar.

>>60862701
HD600 but HD598 is almost as good.

>>60862855
>(HD 600/DT880/K702) if you want muh neutrality.
oh ok thanks. what about if i want to try something a tad more bass heavy?

>>60864120
thats what i was afraid of which is the reason i asked for the next logical upgrade. so HD650s?

>>60864166
>what about if i want to try something a tad more bass heavy?
HD650

Does the cord(3.5mm Jack male, 2x RCA male) quality matter? I got the HD600s for my harman/kardon hk6300 amp and i'm using a 3$ cord to connect it to my pc. If more expensive cords do make a difference, got any recommendations?

>>60864166
HD650 is just a different flavor of the HD600, but if you want more bass while having a similar signature to the HD598 then the HD650 is the logical choice.

>>60864250
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/speakers-when-is-good-enough-enough.2512/page-2#post-15412
tl;dr: Audiophiles couldn't hear a difference between expensive cables and a fucking coat hangar.

>>60864166
HD 650/K712/Fidelio X2 or if you want to go "poor man's endgame" for some good NiggaBass, scam Fostex for TH900 drivers or TH-X00.

>>60862701
HD600, had HD598 for a long time, decided to upgrade and it was well worth it. HD600 have bass in comparison, but mostly everything else is much better, highs are more extended and natural, midrange for me is almost miles ahead and imaging is much better, altho no soundstage. My only problem is that HD600 cups are not as roomy as ones on HD598 and it irritates me time to time, got used to clamp.

It's about a fucking time Senneheiser updates HD600 with a roomier cups, lighter construction akin to HD598 and improves sub bass and transient response in the area of speed, call me whatever you want but HD600 does sound slow in comparison to HD800 and DT880.

>>60864690
>speed
chuckled

>>60860478
Somic MM185, or Status CB-1 if you want to pay a bit more and get a detachable cable.

>>60864690
i'm being asked to buy HD650s, how do you feel about those? these HD598s are so great i can't really imagine it getting much better. it makes me happy to know that it gets even better.

>>60862246
>HD600... physical pain on the first couple days of use. So much pain it remained after removing headphones. I still tortured myself because they sound so fucking good.

This happened exactly to me as well. Fixed after some stretching. I wanted to stretch it not only because of the clamp but because that force would flatten the pads much faster than they normally should, and after that the headphones would touch the tip of the ear. Which is one of the most uncomfortable things I can imagine for long sessions. I could pray for manufacturers to make headphones more roomy (I even have pretty small ears) to prevent any of this to ever happen.

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>>60865126
I'm wearing them right now and I think u might be autistic

>>60864974
>(650) how do you feel about those?
I do not own them. I got HD600 based on the general opinion shared by reviewers that HD600 is the better of the two.
They're apparently very close to each other, but HD600 is the most neutral thing out there (save those ER4SR iems), whereas HD650's sound is colored.

What's a good wireless one?

>>60866164
>good
>wireless
pick either one.

I need new headphones + headphone amplifier.
Right now I'm thinking about getting Sony MDR-7506 or Audio-Technica ATH-M40x + Fiio E10k. Is this good choice or should I get something cheaper? I'm just going to use it for listening music.

>>60866214
>Is this good choice or should I get something cheaper? I'm just going to use it for listening music.
You don't NEED the amp. Use the budget on getting better headphones instead. Money spend on headphones will make a bigger difference than spent getting an amp.
Also, fill the form.

>>60866234
But I need something with a knob so I can adjust volume. I don't have pc speakers because I only use headphones.

>>60866275
Set digital hotkeys on your keyboards for volume.

>>60866275
Your fucking OS has a volume slider, use that instead. The two headphones you're looking at don't benefit from an amp at all.

>>60866299
>>60866306
The problem is I cannot adjust volume in windows with my current headphones. 0 is complete silence and there's absolutely no difference between 1-100. Is it headphones problem or not?

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>tfw have expensive headphone setup but no music to listen to

Post some albums please

>>60866418
Go to /mu/

>>60861483
No reason to exist when you can get a v1 magni/modi on ebay for like $120
>>60866418
Sign up for spotify and add a bunch of your songs, then go to weekly discover

>>60866418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IQYUssLjAs&list=PL9mtGCmhwdk3FIjhGpmSYQHCuWeRcFsUl

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>>60866418
https://mega.nz/#!JE9AkAoB!wtMnvz8FOSDjTfwKjK5UrWC2gNznC3U_oEYWNrNbaWQ

>>60866862
>>60866949
Off to /mu/ with you.

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>>60866418

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>>60866418
>>60867048
https://mega.nz/#!gFVkCaAA!QIvJZor_18T_qm3VqQFLYB7kBFhLFvwEulwhg9C3ZFE

>>60867193
OK, you had your warning. Just reporting thereon.

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>>60866418
>>60867204
https://mega.nz/#!5U0k1B6L!RIZaFwElQBKM5hpEOOo2188-P2Zc-QFFrPWsoO2aG4M

HD600.

So I really want noise isolation would be getting earmuffs over my foam tipped IEMs be a cheap good solution?

>>60864690
>transient response in the area of speed
lal

>>60864690
just to end the speed meme here

frequency response extension = bandwidth = speed

hd 600 has bandwidth above our audible range. most headphones have. it's not limited by speed.

How much of an amp do HD600 really need?
I recently got a pair and just run them off my PC, I get plenty of volume
I read a lot of different opinions on running these on an amp, some people say they get a lot clearer? other state it made little to no difference wether they run it off their laptop/pc or an budget(<150$) amp


I really enjoy the sound as it is now
am I missing out, by not running these off an amp?

>>60868846
Depends on how autistic you are. Important thing is that an amp alone isn't worth much. If you want an improvement over onboard sound you need a better dac.

Anyone else getting those fostex planar magnetics from assdrop? They look pretty nice for the price but estimated ship date of fucking october is making me hesitate.

>>60861350
How much do they pay you senshill? You could recommend Sony or DT880 or AKG but nah I will recommend the whole line of HD 5xxx. Holy fuck, I am genuinely curious really how much did they pay you on this mongolian cartoon board

>>60859665
why do speakers roll off so heavily?

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anyone else?

they're about half gone now

>>60869623
Yeah I went in on them, I was expecting an hd6xx magnitude rush but I'm glad there was no problem getting one. That ship date is killer though.

>>60869763
yeah same. besides people clamor for the damn hd6xx like nothing else it'll probably be voted as a revived drop until the end of time. it's just a blue (dull looking imo) hd600 but I guess it's less than msrp.

the t-x0 I have hopes for though, a good t50rp mod is the best vale in planars you can get. and even if they don't sound the best, they're more than worth it for being a serialized last run. I don't see these ever loosing value.

I'm interested to see how they sound different when I swap on mr speakers leather pads.

Anyone played around with Realtek ASIO? For the time being my external DAC is unavailable so I'm using my motherboard's chip from my Maximus IX. I don't know how to feel about it overall since it's temporary.

>overpaying for HD600 when you can get used HD580s for less than half the price
You goyim can't be this dumb.

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Wew lad, time new argons

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>>60869998
>caring about le happy merchant swindling goyim right now when le happy chinamen have just released serialized last run mk2 to swindle gaijin with

>>60869623
Joined for one, deciding on if I want to get another one also. Imo if you're thinking about picking up a mk3 no reason not to join the drop for the same price. Unless you have ADHD and can't wait 4 months to get them

>>60870344
iirc the mkiii, like the mkii, is still very mid-centric. you still need mods to extend both ends. so yeah, this is the same price and the mods and nicer pads are done for you. if this is 60% as good as a mad dog or better, it will be worth it.

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>>60864690

>>60869253
>DT880
n.g. because of highs. Anon has a point.

>>60868846
>HD600
>amp?
Depends on how much your current source sucks. It might be it's just fine, loud enough, powerful enough, clean enough (noise floor).
Or not.
If you're paranoid, an usb dac+amp is the way to go. Such as the Fulla 2.

>>60869832
>it's just a blue (dull looking imo) hd600 but I guess it's less than msrp.
It's actually a renamed HD650.

>>60868600
Why do they sound 'slower' compared to DT880 then? Inb4 muh sighted listening, when I first went to the audioshop I did no prior research or read tons of reviews and had no expectations when trying out HD600, because I had HD598, but was suggested to try X2 and DT880 as well and that what I found in HD600 vs DT880.

>>60866418
I shall play you the song of my people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co17YM3fVVE

>>60869253
>Sennheiser is well known for having a "brand sound" which includes relaxed highs
>they're so well-known for this that there's an ancient "Sennheiser veil" meme for it
>someone asks for recommendations for headphones without sparkling or pronounced highs
>must be a paid shill because he recommended Sennheiser
"No."

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>>60869998
>wearing something a stranger previously owned

>>60871596
What the hell is slow "sounding"? That doesn't refer into anything. Chances are that if you are hearing it, it's just the usual: frequency magnitude coloration. Human ear is a pressure detector with a very finite temporal resolution.

Yes and sighted listening makes your "test" meaningless, expectations or not.

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Any DT 770 80 ohm owners here? Getting noticeable channel imbalance with the left being louder, also with a deeper bass. IDK if this common, or it is just bad luck (I've had two pairs with this, now returning)

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Gotta go fast.

>>60872507
have you tried listening to them in reverse to rule out your ears?

>>60872560
Tried reversing them, using mono, different sources, and other people - all the same

>>60872574
Mine seems to be matched fine. Maybe try another headphone.

>>60872589
At higher frequencies it is less noticeable, but the low end is obvious. I will buy another pair, but if it's the headphones, I have no idea what could compare at the £100 price bracket.

>>60872589
And to add, 1:30 at this song is the most obvious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lviGHPX1FFU

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I too enjoy having headphones on while looking at custom sleeved cables with 10 inch white space on each side of my browser from my 50 inch 4K monitor while I ponder what the fuck is up with my spacebar.

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What does /hpg/ think of the Audio Technica ATH-MSR7?

>>60873658
Good.

>>60873658
Sadly it's not an HD600.
Still nice... for an audio technica.

>>60873682
Shills like you give the hd600 a bad rep.

>>60873658
Pretty neat, bright portable headphones.

>>60873700
Try if I may, there's no damaging HD600's reputation. Not even snapping the headband and posting pictures will do a thing.

>>60873726
Nobody mentioned the hd600 you stupid fucking shill. Why even bother mentioning it.

I have nothing against the hd600 but you shills truly love to bait shitposters and make these threads worse.

>>60873658
This is what i want to know, too.
Looking for new portable headphones <250€ with either neutral or v-shaped signature. I'm not treble sensitive, so brightness is fine, in fact i like forward, engaging headphones more than dull ones.
One question, how's the bass? Does it exist? Is it muddy? Because open ATH like the 9000X or what they're called have none while M50X are said to be muddy.
>Limited Edition not available
Fuck you Audio Technica, i want my Iron Man headphones, now.

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>>60864690
Speed is one of my favourite audiophile buzzwords.

Nothing beats ethereal though.

Is there any reason to get an HF5 over an MC5 if I'm just going to be EQing it anyways?

>>60874389
>the products at the bottom of the list are also the most uncomfortable

>>60874582
No, but I'd just get an MK5 if you were EQing.

One of my students said she was saving money to buy Beats in our tutoring session and I went complete sperg mode about how it's all flash and no substance, and that there are better headphones in every price range. I was *this* close to writing her a chart with good headphones per price range.

What the hell have you done to me, /hpg/?

>>60874800
What's the advantage of the MK5 over the MC5?

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>>60874989
Nevermind, read up on it. Better ergonomics and frighteningly close to ER-4S in frequency response for the price. This is tempting me to finally try deep insertion because I can't seem to get shallow insertion to stay in place in my right ear.

>>60874389
My favorite one is Pelucid, being a long time since i've read it around here.

Does anyone here have experience with the Yamaha HPH-MT8? They look kinda interesting and cost less than 200.
How do they compare to MSR7, MDR-1A, M50x, Momentum 2, etc.

>>60872405
I think it is the frequency coloration after googling a bit.
>Yes and sighted listening makes your "test" meaningless, expectations or not.
Muh blind tests, I bet you think people won't be able to call a difference between grado and beats if not double blind test.

>>60874389
HD600 in 598 casing with roomier pads and improved sub bass WHEN, or just unfuck HD700

>Budget:
$200
>Location:
UD
>Source:
Samsung Galaxy s6
>Type of headphone: IEM
>Comfort level:
Good enough for comfy 1 to 2 hour sessions
>Sound signature:
Bassy is the only requirement

I looking at some Sony and RHA bass headphones so you can get an idea of what I'm looking for.

>Budget
Probably up to around ~£150 but preferably more in the £100 region.
>Location
UK
>Source
Phone (I do have an E10k if necessary but I'd rather not carry it around and I doubt anything in the price range will come close to needing it anyway).
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed; for library use so it has to have very little sound leakage.
>Comfort level
High preferably, but will probably only use it for 2 or 3 hours at a time so can be medium comfort.
>Sound signature
Neutral (preferably slightly more bassy if anything)
>Past headphones
M50, DT880

I already have DT880s for home use so these will pretty much be purely for library use. I'm thinking of grabbing AKG K553s but I don't really see them recommended much so I'm unsure on whether they're worth it. Any other cans I should consider?

>>60875160
I've got most of the Etys in my collection, the MK5 is the poor man's ER-4S, it's a bit bright but EQ will fix that anyway. The fit is better than the MC5, and on par with the HF5. It's a bit insensitive however.

>>60875698
Shure SE215
>>60875759
>very little sound leakage
>comfort
Pick one.

>>60876006
>Pick one.
Yeah, little sound leakage is more important. It jst has to be comfortable enough.

>>60873974
msr7 has flat bass, it's appreciable and has impact if that's what you want. it's definitely not going to sound bass light like all the open ATH headphones do (besides r70x). it will not sound boomy with tons of bass like the m50 does. if you want more bass get an X2. if you want something similar to the msr7 but on the warm side instead of bright side, get the hp50.

>>60876037
https://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_hd_280_pro_new.htm

>>60876037
>Yeah, little sound leakage is more important. It jst has to be comfortable enough.
get an IEM then, then isolate more without resorting to clamp. the best isolating headphones like the hd280 are closed clamp monsters, that's how they isolate so well, by applying over double the force of a normal headphone. tolerable for an hour maybe but that's it.

>>60874905
Let the normies buy their shit. Nobody cares about sound quality, it's about brand status and fashion.

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Many self-proclaimed "audiophiles" have strong opinions about equipment they've never actually heard. If you have the capacity to think for yourself, audio review sites and forums are usually an unsavory, if fascinating combination of shilling, self-justification, and "follow the leader" parroting of received opinions. Take SBAF, for example. They fit the description to a tee.

>>60876195
It's just groupthink at play.

>>60859485
What are the best wireless headphones for my desktop that I can get for ~$400 kangaroobux? I'm just getting into the audio game and have no idea what to look for.

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>>60875591
A new HD600-like with less distortion or closer to neutral, I'd buy, like, shut up and take my money.
Fuck, it's from 1997, sure they can do better 20 years later? -_-

>>60869623
I grabbed one. Anyone know of a reasonable amp that can drive these? (assuming they are as difficult to drive as the stock model)

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$640 adjusted for inflation

>>60877111
what year is that ad?

Does anyone know how to change hd600 earpads? All I can find on google is people who did it but no concrete explanation, wanna put angled velour brainwavz pads on them.

Do headphones with built in mics cause issues with computers that have both a headphone and a mic port? Only half the sound comes through, if I push the mic button, then all of it comes through. I can't get any mic's to work anyway. Probably some dumb winblows 10 privacy setting.

>>60877210
1962

>>60875984
Would you say then that there is no reason to get the HF5 over the MK5 as lone as you EQ? What if you aren't EQing?

>>60875579
Poor bet. You can train your listening skill but that has to come with the ability to accurately describe what you hear.

>>60877111
Were these headphones made by Japs?

>>60877552
I prefer the HF5's stock signature over the MK5, but you might be different, the HF5 is darker/warmer in tone while still being quite neutral, it's similar to the ER-4PT. The MK5 is similar to the ER-4S but a bit brighter.

The only advantage I can see with the HF5 is the sensitivity is better on portable devices.

>>60877864
Would you say the HF5 is similar in sound to the HD600 then?

>>60877984
HF5 has more sub-bass, less mid-bass, less lower midrange, and less high treble. That's in comparison to the HD600. What that means is that the HF5 sounds thinner in comparison, and darker at the top end treble.

I'd say if you like the HD600 you might deviate closer to the HF5, but if you want absolute neutrality maybe the MK5 is what you want.

>>60878030
Cool, thanks

>>60877844
germans

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>his headphones don't even have good PRaT

>>60876734
o2 or schiit magni 2

Not headphone, but are there any portable CD players with built in bluetooth?

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>>60866418
Listen to this entire album and thank me later

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>>60866418
Also this.

Hop to it anon!

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https://www.amazon.com/X5-Resolution-Lossless-Music-Player/dp/B00I4Q9S32
Is this worth it /g/
If Nintendo doesn't announce anything worthwhile for the Switch tomorrow I'm getting it, assuming it is

>>60876043
Thanks, that was helpful. Really enjoy tight bass over shit mudcannons like Ripoffs by DrDindu. I give them a try.

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I've hastily slapped together the assdrop fostex FR with the K550 measurements off innerfidelity. Of course they might not have used the same measurement devices/procedure so take this with a grain of salt.

>>60879332
>Is this worth it /g/
The refurbished one for $150? Yeah, that seems alright. I got an x1 for $50 and I absolutely love it.

Sup /htg/,

I'm looking to spend €250-270 ($275-300) on a headphone, but I don't want it to be too bulky or too slim, preferably with a noise cancellation switch. Any recommendations?

Also if I could also get a decent pair of earphones thrown in there with the budget it'd be swell.

>>60880262
Refurb MDR1000x ($260) + VE Monk Plus ($5).

>>60880262
Fill the form, please.

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Phone jack broken (Zenfone 2), any devices I plug in just slide out easily, tried bending things back in place in there but to no avail.

Is there such thing as viable <$50 wireless earphones? Or <$70? Used to just use Xiaomi Hybrids.

Hello I'm a shitter can anybody tell me what sound signature is my preference? V shaped?
I don't really like my expensive ATH IM03 headphones but love my chink 1MORE Triple Driver headphone... I'm driving this through a Fiio E10K

>>60880434
>Budget:
€ 250-270
>Location:
United Kingdom (London)
>Type of
Headphone: Not too bulky, not too slim/flimsy, preferably w/noise-cancellation switch
>Open or closed
No idea, I guess both?
>Comfort
level: Anything that doesn't makes my ears hurt
>Sound signature:
Neutral
>Past headphones:
HyperX/XChat/Some mid tier A4

Also, if I could get a decent earphone with the budget it'd be swell.

>>60880295
Noted. Rather stay away from refurbed stuff. I like the earphone recommendation.

>>60877339
anyone????

>>60881242
>open and closed
Read as open. Closed is a sacrifice of comfort and sound for isolation.
>neutral, 270€
HD600 (sale or 2nd hand), HD579, HD599, k702, HD598se.
Google/youtube will find you plenty of reviews of these. They should all be available in amazon.co.uk.

>>60881573
Thanks for sharing. So basically you can have good sound isolation only if you sacrifice comfort by going with closed headphones?

Also, what do you think is the best for general (music) use among those you've listed? Will definitely check their reviews.

>>60881664
>So basically you can have good sound isolation only if you sacrifice comfort by going with closed headphones?
There's a third factor: Price. But the general idea is that open will sound better at the same price, and this difference grows as budget goes up, to the point where there's simply no closed alternative to the HD600.
>Also, what do you think is the best among those you've listed? Will definitely check their reviews.
HD600 is the most neutral and best sounding. I listed them in what I understand as descending order. They're all at least neutral-ish, comfortable and good value per price.
>for general (music) use
Neutral + comfortable to wear are the requirements. I think you got that much right.

Should I get a DAC for my SHP9500s?
They sound clearer through my phone........

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had these for 13 months

>sound suddenly starts cutting out on left ear

>contact Kingston for advice

>they ask me to supply proof of purchase and simply send me a brand new pair

based kingston

>>60881884
>Should I get a DAC for my SHP9500s? they sound clearer through my phone than my laptop.
Yes, clearly either of them has issues.
A fulla 2 (usb dac+amp) is suggested.

>>60882083
>>60881884
>>60881903

>>60881912
what country? asking for nsa

>>60881912
They'd rather you don't discover how shit clouds are vs any cheap headphone recommended here.

>>60864690
>what are minimum phase devices

Is burn in a real thing or just a big meme?

>>60882813
For practical purposes, as long as you do the burn-in by wearing your headphones, it is real.
Getting used to new headphones is a thing.

>>60882864
But playing whitenoise or whatever through them for multiple hours to wear in the drivers is complete nonsense right?

>>60882990
No, it's not. It's faith-based. People who believe in it do actually hear better sound afterwards. It's all in their brain, but it does work.

>>60882990
>>60883057
I had about a dozen SHE3580 and SHE3590 and when just bought they sound very very bad, cracking and popping all the time. After half an hour of noise or music the sound becomes normal. I did not try blind testing it but the difference is way too signiicant to be placebo effect.
I guess any decent (>$5) headphones are tested by manufacturers so there's already enough burn-in when bought.

>>60883144
>cracking and popping all the time
Do they ship with sand on the drivers? :X

>>60883164
>$4 on amazon
I hope it's sand and not some chink slave's crusted blood and cum

>>60883246
>mass produced
I don't think it would scale to the point they can sell at $4.

>Budget
<100€, the cheaper the better
>Location
Germany
>Source
Laptop, Smartphone
>Type of headphone
on-ear headphones
>Open or closed
preferably closed
>Comfort level
comfy
>Sound signature
kind of an all-rounder
>Past headphones
superlux hd668b

Are koss portapros good for listening on the go even though they are open?

Thanks in advance

>>60883594
>on-ear headphones
>closed
Pick one.

My HD600 subjective review.
As I put them on, it's as if I was receiving a constant flow of the good stuff via IV.
When I remove them, the world seems grey and boring, and soon enough I get the shakes from the withdrawal.

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>>60883594
Just get m40x, or go with open and get sr80's

>>60883804
there are some closed open ears, are they shit or what?

>>60883871
>closed open
'nugh said.

>>60883882
sorry, i meant closed on ears, of course

Can using my headphones as speakers damage them? For example, leaving them on the desk connected to my desktop on max volume when I don't feel like wearing them. They sound loud enough to use as speakers and I don't have the money to buy some.

>>60883945
Unless they're ear dildos with a headband, I feel bad for the ears.

>>60883971
I do that a lot with HD600. You'd have to go real loud to actually damage them, and I doubt you can do that without the gain of an external amp.

>>60883594
They're okay but they leak quite a bit and dont isolate at all. Just be cautious of how loud they're playing.
I got Superlux HD 562's and they're pretty good in just about all aspects except comfort.

>>60884029
>on-ear
>closed
>comfort
Right.

>>60869453
Any resonator which can't pressurize the space they are in will do that below their fundamental resonance. Headphones(even open back models) pressurize the air inside the earcups enabling useful LF extension. Loudspeakers don't and neither would headphones in free air. The HS8's 8" woofer would roll off around ~100 Hz alone but the port resonance extends the band down to ~45 Hz.

>>60883144
>difference is way too signiicant to be placebo effect
heh

>>60884172
>I can hear it
>I sware!

I got 300 bucks for IEMs, want something detailed, neutral, natural. No Etymotics.

>>60883862
>>60884029
thanks for the recommendations. Are the superlux hd 562's uncomfy because they sit tight on the head? That's a problem I have with my hd668b's and I wonder if replacing the pads would do any good?

>>60884325
Unless you get thinner, more uncomfortable pads, it won't make a difference

>>60884238
Shure 435

>>60884354
425***

>>60884325
Are the superlux hd 562's unconfy because they sit tight on your head? Yes, that be helped by stretching the headband on a box for a day or two. Genuine HD 25 pads would help a bit with comfort or the spare velours that came with it.

>>60884107
So you didn't read it?
>>60884325
I forgot to mention I have glasses so it's not the confiest but it gets the job done in sound and isolation.

>>60884450
>>60884515
alright, thanks

>>60884587
>>60884587
>>60884587
>>60884587
>>60884587
>>60884587
New thread.

>>60883594
I'd go with M40x for 99€, but they come with 3m cable and shit pads, you'd end up spending something like 145€.
Probably still the best allrounder and worth saving for.

>>60885192
>the best allrounder
That'd be HD600.

>>60881912
Now to can fix the used ones and sell them on eBay

>>60883057
Anything with moving parts will settle with use, speakers are no exception. The real question is will you notice any difference and will that difference be measurable, the quick answer to that is no

>>60882813
meme

>>60884238
>No Etymotics.
why

>>60885414
Autism.

>>60885601
>>60884238
"Muh ear dildos"

>>60874905
I've done this too. In every instance they've gone and bought a pair of beats and talk about how they love them, while I'm listening to headphones that cost half as much but run circles around them in SQ. It's one of the reasons I don't give advice anymore. People will do what they want to anyways and you'll have done nothing but waste your time.

>>60885604
name a better all rounder

protip: you cant

>>60886826
>budget of <100€
>closed back
>recommends meme 600
Autism. And yes, i can: DT1990.

>>60886890
>inb4 pic of bees on ear and 'HISSSS'

>>60886890
>DT1990
good joke

>>60886890
>$599 USD

lmao

>>60880295
>MDR1000x

https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=180&t=5047406

What a piece of crap.