/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Where my Fidelio X2 niggers at?

Open is to closed as
HD650 is to ????

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>>59999580
>literally never heard of it

Pic related. Seems to be a steal for $85 and despite the nigger tier chassis the PCB, parts and soldering themselves seem to be pretty solid, I just wonder if there's a catch.

>>60006411
No, I can understand when some people go mad over expensive SS amps, tubes are different tho, but when people tell that you don't need amp at all they are just plain retarded. They are also retarded when they say that amp only to make things louder, there was a very noticeable difference in sound of my HD600 through amp and through just my macbook even tho my mac would go really loud volume wise. But in the end it depends on headphone, shit like HD600 really needs at least a basic amp, shit like X2 may still benefit from an amp but much, much less. DESU most of SS are overpriced and you would do good with either objective 2 or magni 2/fulla 2.

>>60006761
Where is midrange at :^)?

Are there any closed upgrades to the DT770 before the $400-500 price range and the Th X00?

Considering the MSR7, but that seems more like a change in sound signature than an upgrade.

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SR850 soon, feeling good about this purchase.

Decided to not order the ones that had prime just to save a few bucks and put that into a microphone.

I did some research on the zalman and was going to get it but from what I heard, it was just too sensitive. Got this thing instead (x3, I only thought it was 1) for $6. Tried them out, compared them to the apple earbuds mic and it sounds clearer, would have to try them out on a skype call and ask the other side if it's louder compared to the old mic.

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Not exactly headphones, but I need to get an XLR mic working with my computer. What's generally the cheapest way to do this that isn't full retard?

>>60006971
Steinberg UR12/Focusrite Scarlett Solo

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>>60006971
If you bought a mic that doesn't work with your PC out of the box, haven't you gone full retard already?

>>60006926
SR850s are uncomfortable as fuck I hope you're planning on replacing those stock pads.

>>60006801

Doesn't even list the output impedance

pass

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>>60006761
i used to use that wireless mouse it has a very uncomfortable shape
if you like vidya try g900
mx master for general use

>>60006710
wtf I love AKG now?!

>>60007019
But I was told that they were c o m f y

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>>60007139
Are you a girl of some sort?

>>60007104
>g900

I got it during black friday
Great mouse, but the colored LEDs are obnoxious as fuck and the setting to turn them off doesn't survive a suspend/reboot

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>not buying Audio Technica ATH-M40x and forgetting about every set of ear subwoofers worth less than 1000$
You live only one life, why spend it listening to distortion, 45 hz bass boost and decibel response graphs that look like nintendo's hardware sales

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http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/zmf-atticus-sealed-over-ear-headphones

>It seems to me he's designed these latest two headphones as an experiment
>the Atticus is [...] a [...] headphone that is a bit veiled and uneven in the treble
>the bass was just more emphatic on the Atticus—the mids seem relatively unmolested
>Like the Eikon, the presence region is a bit withdrawn, but the Atticus has a much larger dip in response at 6kHz
>Atticus more lackluster
>the Atticus is a bit dead and boring
>Vocals are [...] rather more artificial and obviously reproduced with the Atticus

Not even Tyll can defend those hot, new garbage headphones anymore.

Okay /hfg/, I need some guidance:

I got an LG v20, and I'm looking for an entry-level pair of cans that would take advantage of the DAC in it.

US, budget 50-80 dollars, preferably flat audio, as any form of equalization on the damn thing drops to 48k instead of 96k, not super worried about comfort, and would prefer closed because I'd wear these in a gym/in bed.

Is there hope for me?

Pretty much all my other headphones have been IEMs(Shure 215(rip), klipsh r6i(stolen), and Dunu 2k(rip)) and have been just making do with a shitty pair of skullcandy hesh a friend gave me.

>>60006761
>>60006860
I don't know why the X2s don't get more love. I've never heard them, but they seem pretty solid going off most reviews.

>>60006905
Maybe the NAD Viso HP50 or Focal Spirit? I'm considering the Focal Spirit Classic right now because it's $170 on Amazon at the moment, but there seems to be build quality issues.

What are good cheap open back headphones?

/csg/ recommended me somic v2, around $50 seems like a decent price point since I'm not an audiophile. I mean, I could spend more if there's some great deal, I got some disposable income to burn. But no point if I can't appreciate it, and I got nothing but PC output to power it.

Particularly looking for something comfy for longer sessions.

>>60008096
hd598 is only one fiddy on amazon

>>60008096
SHP 9500 is a good value if you get them for $55 from newegg. Comfy stock, detachable cable, not much bass though.

Better than other cheap open backs in the price range.

>>60008194
Those look nice, and would match my cheapo closed back Philips headphones. Can't find them anywhere in my country, so I would have to find some place that ships to eastern EU. Are they discontinued or something?

>>60006971
Buy an audio interface or mixer.

Cheap secondhand interfaces and mixers are everywhere.

>>60008368
Don't think so, I'd just look on different Amazons.
They have the 9500S now which is the exact same thing.

>>60006794
>HD650 but closed
Good luck with that.

I'm looking for a pair of IEMs, preferably under $110, comfortable and also slightly durable (no thin flimsy wire). In terms of sound signature I would like them bassy with audible mids and highs.(Nothing weak-sounding) Sound cancelling would also be an aspect I'd want.
The pair of IEMs I previously had were urBeats.
Thanks.

>>60009159
GR07 Bass Edition

>>60006710
I saw some ugly ass nigga with one of those AKGs that look so cute on the anime girls, had a gold trim on it.
He looked like a doofus and it made his weird facial features and shitty goatee stand out more.
Dont wear these massive things if youre ugly

Are Grado SR60s a classic meme?

>>60008096
HD558 ~$100
Somic V2s are shit, the cheaper 668Bs are better

Are expensive in ear headphones (not monitors) actually good? Are their wires any more durable than cheap $1-20 headphones?
$30-$50 headphones Ive seen seem like scams since sure the cable is replaceable but just the cable is $20

>>60006710
anime needs to be banned on /g. its disturbingly unhealthy how emotionally attached people are with these inanimate objects. they're cartoons. just because you toss headphones on some creepy anime girl you masturbate to that drawn by some fat dude doesn't make it related to headphones. doesn't matter if 4chan started off as a degenerate anime board, /g isn't for anime. that that nonsense to /a and all the other boards dedicated to it.

>>60008096
668B's/SR850 or the Superlux 681 Variants (681/681F/681B)

Is there any major difference between a Schiit Modi and the UCA202?
I'd rather get a magni 2 and the UCA202 instead of a Fulla 2 so I can use SPDIF.

>>60009320
modi 2 uber will give you spdif, optical and coax.

idk what dac chip uca202 uses internally, or how well it does.

>>60009269
okay grandpa
come on guys, lets go outside, i heard they let you play 30 minutes of WoW for free at walmart

>>60009390
I know that.

>>60009211
Would those be useable on a phone?
Any other recommendations?

>>60009520
Yes, they're usable on a phone. I would've also suggested Shure SE215's but they're a bit on the darker side while still bassy.

>>60009478
idk what to suggest, desu.

Maybe get Fulla 2 first, which is a very useful device in any event. Then you can test all you want uca202 to fulla2 line in vs fulla2's dac, uca202 to headphones without fulla2 vs fulla2, all that crap.

If it turns out the fulla2 is significantly better, you might then want to consider getting the uber stack. In any event, the fulla2 will always be handy, due to its form factor and function.

Why does Dolby Digital Plus make everything sound better? I hit the button a bunch of times and toggled it constantly and could accurate tell if it was on or off. It makes things sound more "fuller" and "fun"

>>60007631

What a pile of steaming shit

>>60009424
>Anon can't fathom the truth

>>60009709
It's called coloring. That's politically correct slang for distortion.

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Anybody have any experience with Ghostek?

These seem pretty good and of all the reviews I've watched on it, the only reoccurring complaint is the blocky earpiece.

How the fuck can I get these in Canada? It only seems to be available on american amazon

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>velor pads
>absorbs all the dirt and oil on your face
>putting it back on your face again
why do people do this?

>>60009269
uh ackshully those are digital photos not inanimate objects

>>60010074
Because personal hygiene isn't an issue unless you're a mouthbreathing neckbeard

>>60010074
prevents ears from getting sweaty
how much dirt and oil would be around your ears?

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>>60010099
they make you sweaty just buy wearing them

>>60010095
what if you leave in vegas

>>60006761
Are these, dare I say, certified /trustyfucks/?

>>60010115
May wanna shove 'em into the washer, anon.

>>60006710
I'm using an Avid Mbox Mini with a pair of Etynomic HF5's. I can hear a very subtle buzzing noise whenever I move my mouse (G303).

Is my audio interface just shitty or am I having a grounding issue? It's not too distracting but noticeable when I have no audio coming into the IEM's.

>>60010099
>prevents ears from getting sweaty
I dont get this meme. Also people who seat when using a mouse. How fucking fat do you have to be? Decent leather is breathable and will not make you sweat. Good polyurethane wont make you sweat either.

>>60010148
*who sweat

Reminder that if you have S/PDIF or mini toslink out on your source you dont need a USB EMI riddled piece of shit like the Shit Modi or ODAC, all you need is the Fiio D03K converter between your source and your amp.

>>60010138
Its a piece of shit and is known for doing that. Its caused by electromagnetic waves and youll have that problem until the next phase of the solar emission cycle

Once the stock issues with the m1060 are resolved it's going to be the new meme headphone, the new m50. Calling it now

>>60010249
It is pretty shitty. If I turn the big nob I get static galore. I have the big nob halfway and use the mixing nob as my way of adjusting volume.

Any suggestions for a better audio interface? Preferably one with a lot of plug ins because I'm sick of sharing one input for all my synthesizers.

Why does putting my phone over my "300w" preamp subwoofer make matrix noises?

>>60010148
well im talking about fake leather for closed backs
do audiophile headphones generally have real leather if they aren't velour?

>>60010148
You try not sweating when it's 80 degrees and there's no AC.

>>60010672
>>60010148
oh polyurethane nvm
anyways i haven't had good fake leather before
so i wouldn't know
also way to overuse meme
like it's funny to descibe meh headphones everyone is jacking off about but this is something people actually experience

and
>Also people who seat when using a mouse. How fucking fat do you have to be?
literally wtf are you going on about

>>60007842
Anyone?

>>60011565
Philips SHP9500 on Amazon for $75. The new M50X.

>>60011575
By this mean in terms of meme quality. The M40X is also in the same range.

>>60011575
Calling the SHP9500s M50Xs isn't exactly a compliment, anon.

AKG k81dj vs ISK HP2011 vs Superlux 668B vs Beyerdynamic DTX 910?

Any opinion about the Marshall monitor?

>>60011599
I think the meme refers more to how they're discussed.

M50x aren't as bad as people make them out to be, but the price got jacked up and ruined the value they had. Only tried them quickly once, but the bass was way too muddy for my taste.
DT770's are a much better option in the price range for bassy closed headphones.

The fact that M40's are cheaper and better doesn't help.

The SHP's are fine, especially if you've never had open headphones before.
Super comfy, detachable cable, easy to drive, and decently neutral sound with rolled off bass and some graininess to the treble.

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I've been using these for awhile now and I feel like they're going to break on me soon. Are there a pair of IEMs that have comparable or better sound signature than these below $115?

Sooo... M40x or M50x guys?

>>60011877
And should I buy a Certified Refurbished™?

>>60011877
>>60011734
M40, DT770 if you want to spend more.

>>60006794
Oppo PM-3 or DT250.

Both are brighter than HD650 but are good choices while remaining relatively neutral.

>>60006860
This post is just plain wrong.

>>60007141
They are comfy.

>>60007162
Mine does.

>>60007842
M40x.

>>60008096
SR850, SHP9500.

>>60009320
UCA202 is a pretty great DAC.

>>60011935
This nigga gets it.

>>60011619
bump

>>60012331
668b

>>60012333
>>60011619
668B or SR850

>>60009876
Hi grandpa.

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>>60006761
here my dud

>>60007631
Honestly what do you expect from a headphone built in someone's garage?

>>60009320
The UCA202 SPDIF is an output, not an input.

>>60010074
Have a fucking shower, and wash the pads every once in a while.

I have JVC HAS-400 headphones and they really good but also really uncomfortable with the default pads, I just can't wear them with glasses without them killing my ears, also they get my ears really hot in summer so I can't use them.
I remember it was mentioned that they could be replaced, which ones are compatible and where can I buy them online in europe?

>>60002170
>Have people place them on randomly selected listeners.
I don't think randomly selecting the listening group does any good here. Better to choose people which are discriminating and trained.
>All the DTs are identical in build and feel.
Not all. But if were to stick into the Premium lineup of one selected model such as DT880, yes.
>>60002979
>Its the same headphone with different impedance.
Different voice coil wiring to be more precise.

This way of "blind testing" still won't give us much confidence in comparing their sounds. The procedure of changing the headphones and the time spent not listening during the changing poses a lot of issues. Headphone response changes when you adjust them on your head or put them back on different times. This is a nearly impossible variable to control. If the idea was to compare the headphones to each other, an immediate switch would be required. For now we'd be reduced to scoring the headphones individually on some scale and likely doing a lot of listening for any meaningful results. We'd also need to volume match across the frequency band by equalization. It might yield different results on different real ears.

>>60010148
It's not like you sweat due to physical exercise at your computer screen. Sweating is individual, can be caused by a variety of reasons and doesn't just relate into being fat or out of shape.

>>60012985

I think I read a post from him inviting one of the [spoiler]/r/headphones objectivists into his "workshop". Would kill for someone like Axel Grell to take up the invitation and school those pretenders.

I absolutely detest the romanticised artisanal rhetoric that started with Shinola. In this case, its a few guys without formal acoustics or transducer engineering training stuffing OEM drivers into "lovingly" lathe-turned earcups with an arbitrary amount of foam stuffed in them. This passes for premium/high-end/SOTA according to forum audiophools.

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HD650 is a safe bet, yeah? No genres it shits itself in, good all around though rarely great?

>>60010148
>australia
>45 degrees during summer
>reguarly hits 30s even during winter
hmm I wonder why I get sweaty

>>60013545
HD650 sitting on my head right now and I couldn't be happier

>>60013545
Safest bet

>>60013545
HD600 is better.

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>>60013627
good joke

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>>60013627

DT880 Premium Black Edition is on sale on Newegg Flash for $135 until Monday. Get that shit while it lasts.

>>60006761
Got them a few month ago, switching from a ATH-M50, great quality and much comfier. How do you guys clean the pads tho?

>>60013545
lmao no bass
lmao no feel

>>60013664
nice

>>60008194
>>60008876
>>60009247
>>60009295
>>60012026
I'll look around for a place that carries the SHP9500 and ships to my country(newegg does some items but sadly not this one), but if I can't find one with reasonable pricing I'll probably go for SR850 or 668B, since both are readily available here. Between those, is the headband the only difference? Which one would be comfier?

Also what about the Superlux HD330? The pricing is pretty much identical with 668B but I'm guessing it's not recommended for a reason.

>>60014128
Welp, looking around it looks like I'd have to pay around $120 for the SHP9500 with shipping included, so they're pretty much out.

>>60012026
>This post is just plain wrong
Are your one of thouse retards that preach that you don't ever need amp if your headphones get loud enough on your initial source because amps only make shut louder? If so kys and stop telling lies to other people.

>>60013545
Yes it is, plus it excels at vocals and anything midrange focused.

>>60006710
How the fuck do you casually toggle an eq on and off with apo equalizer? Selecting 'disable all enhancements' on and off gets annoying.

>>60013636
enjoying those 'highs' on your 650 lmao? oh you can't hear them.

>>60014481
the only highs you have on the hd600 is the distortion

>>60014490
what distortion you clown. 650's sound like they're underwater compared to 600's lmao. Funny thing is I can eq more bass on my 600's and they still sound better than 650's across the board. Stay cucked.

>>60014590
hd600 shitposters are the worst

Which in ear headphones around $30 should I get?

>>60014596
A 650 poster literally started the shitposting.

Don't worry though, I'm sure you will be able to recoup most of your money back so you can buy the real version of your headphones.

>>60014642
the post purchase rationalization of hd600fags never ceases to amaze

>>60014664
Owned both on trial. 600's were better. bye.

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>>60014669
>Stay cucked

Upgrading from HD598, I can't choose between DT880 Prem.
Fidelio X2
HD600/650

>>60014757
AKG K702

>>60014757
>DT 880
>beyerhiss

>X2
>niggerbass

>HD600/650
snapheiser

>>60014791
Can you at least leave a suggestion like the other anon who replied did?

>>60014799
do you want to get raped by treble, have muddy bass or shit build quality? pick your poison

>>60014830
Well the way you typed out that post make it look like you told me to get none of them, I'm a bit confused

>>60014757
there's no such thing as audio upgrades my placebo friend

>>60014757
>HD600/650
can't go wrong
>Fidelio X2
only if you know what they sound like
>DT880 Prem.
same as X2

>>60014685
>if you have any complaints about the speed or the bass extension of these headphones, you need a better headphone amp

w e w

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My trusty old HD595s are about to fall apart, is there anything else I should look at or should I just get myself the beige memephones? Anyone have experience with the new closed version?

They need to be at least as lightweight, comfortable and unnoticeable, and I have a relatively small head so huge, heavy shit like the Fidelio are out.

>>60009228
I got them and I look like a qt anime boi.
been mistaken for a fucken girl too

>>60014971
/endofdiscussion

>Budget
$600-700
>Location
Canada
>Source
3.5mm speaker input
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Moderate to high
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-M50

After 7 years my ATH-M50s have begun to break down. Looking for a replacement since I've got some disposable cash right now.

>>60015057
>Closed
>Neutral
nigga

>>60015068
I'm willing to go open if you have a suggestion.

>>60015057
>$600-700
CAD or USD?

>>60015087
CAD. Guess it's not worth much these days.

>>60010074
tbqh leather or fake leather are much harder to clean than velour and cannot be cleaned as completely as velour can, velour is by far the best in my experience for not leaving residue on your face after wearing it and general comfort followed by cow hide and sheepskin power gap >>>>>>>>>> protean dirt smelling shit that falls apart after you wash it twice

>>60015091
Fostex TH-X00
Audeze SINE

I want to purchase some headphones, an amplifier & dac. amplifier should receive digital input as well as a record player, and ideally have outputs for headphones as well as speakers.

>Budget
€1000 total
>Location
netherlands
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed is not a requirement, either is fine
>Comfort level
should be able to do 2 hours without any problems
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
DT770 Pro + Fiio E07K
>Genres
hip hop, new wave, psychedelic, alternative rock, some EDM. pretty varied

any recommendations?

>>60015168
>Fostex TH-X00
Those look pretty nice, and they have only 1 day left on the "Drop" by which they mean sale I figure? 399 for 600 headphones, that's a steal. They look fantastic as well.

>Budget
50-250 EUR
>Location
Yurop
>Source
Smartphone
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Moderate to high
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
have HD600, but looking for something portable that can run without an amp

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I asked in /sqt/ but didn't had answer, and don't want to make a useless thread just for that.

What would be a good audio equipment to listen to music ? I need to replace my speakers (altec 2100, pic related)
I don't know a lot about audio stuff.
Is there any guide about how to pick good stuff ?


>Budget
would appreciate to stay around 100 - 150€
>Location
France, Paris
>room size
~ 20m2

I listen to a lot of music funk, jazz, hip hop, classical...

>>60015411
ATH-M50 X

>>60015432
Are the ATH-M70 headphones worth the price?

>>60015512
There are probably better options at that price.

>>60015292
I would say the hd600 but because of you're music preference I'd recommend the 650.

>>60015425
Speakers: Micca MB42X 90$
Amp: SMSL SA50 60$

or used JBL lsr 305...

>>60006761
I got X1 :/

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What's the best entry level dac+amp?

My pc makes background noise and I want to get some midrange headphones down the line, right now I'm using philips SHP9500

>>60015974
There's no point getting anything more expensive than a FiiO E10K for your SHP9500 if you just want to get rid of the noise.

>>60014757
X2 only if you like coloring. I doubt that's what you want, as the other options you list do at least try to be neutral.

DT880 have that silly beyer's treble peak, and are more of a sidegrade.

Not HD650 as they're darker (receased treble), have less clear mids and mullier (although stronger) bass. Sennheiser themselves say they designed it for milenials who like to "feel" the bass. Most reviewers consider HD650 worse than HD600 too.

HD600 hands off. I doubt you'll find the bass of the HD600 weak coming from HD598. I did HD598->HD600. Didn't use the HD598 for a month. Once I tried them back, I realized how bad HD598 was. And I used to love them.

>>60014983
If open was good for you until now, why would you want to sacrifice comfort and sound for isolation now?

I'd say it's about time to get the flagship HD600.

But if you absolutely need something in the same category as the 595's, then go HD599.

>>60016020
yeah but I want some midrange headphones down the line, so I'd rather kill 2 birds with one stone and get the fulla now if its better than the E10k
Or another option, I just don't know any other brands

>>60016071
"Midrange headphones" doesn't provide any additional information. It's perfectly possible an E10K is all you're ever going to need.

>>60016122
>"Midrange headphones" doesn't provide any additional information
It does if you know anything about audio

>>60015292
>budget 1k€
>Headphones, neutral
HD600. You might hear people recommend HD650 because muh bass, but watching a few reviews should keep you away from that idea. They're generally considered overall worse and you can EQ the bass up on the HD600 if you absolutely need to. IMO it's good as it is.
>amp with extra output for speakers
I'd grab either a schiit jotunheim w/balanced DAC module, or the modi uber/multibit + magni uber stack.

>>60016153
>jotunheim balanced dac
Unfortunately USB only. If you need spdif, modi2 uber or multibit.

>>60015974
Schiit Fulla 2 is not expensive and due to its performance and connectivity options is likely the only such device you'll ever need.

>>60016153
>you can EQ the bass up on the HD600 if you absolutely need to
You can EQ the treble up on the HD650 if you absolutely need to

>>60016260
But EQ-ing the HD650 won't un-fuck the midrange or make the bass detailed.

Is it possible to get /bored/ of a headphones sound signature even if they're god tier?

>>60016298
The more the colored, the more likely.

Else, you're actually listening to the music. Then you can get bored of whatever music you listen to.

>>60016288
This guy seems to have done his homework:
>https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/brands-s-se/hd650/
and he disagrees with you.

>>60016144
>It does if you know anything about audio
Chiming in to disagree. It's a stupid description like "mid-fi".

>>60016391
>and he disagrees with you.
Huh, no. All he's saying is that HD650 can be somewhat improved by EQ, which is something I happen to agree with.

Notice how he's not saying they can be made to sound better than HD600, or that they sound better than HD600 by default.

>>60016466
>an unrivalled midrange
Sounds pretty un-fucked to me.

>>60014757
>DT880
Fast clean sound, prevailing highs and good tight lows. Highs can get freaky, especially on modern music or when singer says S.
>Fidelio X2
Big soundstage, boom boom boom bass and that's kind of it. Mids are kill and bass is muddy.
>HD600
Best, and forward, midrange out of all 3, best vocals as well. Highs are not as prevent as on others but are still detailed and non fatiguing. Midbass hump giving a warmth to the sound, bass itself is natural sounding but not very strong. Those 2 factors combined give HD600 a somewhat 'relaxed' sound, natural to my ears.

Had HD598 as well before and decided to upgrade, in the end I narrowed down my choices to those 3 and went to the headphone shop with a good listening area. X2 were almost instant nope, good for people coming from beats but otherwise meh, altho build quality is really good. In the end it was HD600 vs DT880, sat on a couch for an hour swapping them. DT800 sounded more 'detailed' as highs were cleaner, but HD600 just got more of an actual detail, esp ambient detail, from music especially on this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9opZi6PluKI. Also vocals sounded amazing on HD600, not that DT880 was bad, but because of the DT highs mids sounded kind of distant especially when compared to HD600. In the end I walked out with HD600 because they had superior vocals, sounded more natural and detailed to my ears and were non fatiguing under any circumstance, I like to use headphones all day long.

So I recommend you go with HD600, if you can try out DT880 as well to see what fits you but I find HD600 better.

>>60014128
>>60014231
I decided to go with the Samson SR850 - the headband looked the most comfortable, and they're cheap enough that if the SHP9500 will reappear on sale somewhere affordable I can still get them and not feel bad.

>>60016572
Also can anyone compare AKG712 to HD600? I wanted to try AKG but sadly they had none in store. I am interested because graph wise those 2 don't look that different, esp if you compare them to DT880.

>>60016572
Interesting review. What about comfort?

>>60016555
>Sounds pretty un-fucked to me.
Doesn't mean it isn't still second to HD600.

Also, opinions. For all we know, he might actually love the HD650. But that'd make him a pretty odd person. Most reviewers who have both do prefer HD600.

>>60016153
those combinations end up at around €750. is there anything better to get with that extra 250 to spend or would you advise against it?

>>60016449
you know exactly what it means

you've invested to much money into audio so you have to act like a poser, but you actually know exactly what mid range means in this context

>>60016752
I'd say save the extra 250€.

There's no real improvement over HD600 or these amps/dacs by simply spending 250€ more.

But these 250€ might afford you some jbl lsr305, or some Fulla 2 + HD380 Pro or some DT770 for a closed setup, in the future.

>>60016621
Oh yeah, X2 were comfy but loose, too loose. DT800, I don't remember much but I think they were decently comfy altho round pads and they were smaller than ones on X2 but I think those pads were quite stretchable. HD600 were comfy but there were 2 problems with them. First is the grip. First week or 2 it was very tight, MUCH tighter than loose HD598. Hoverer it either fixes itself in about 2 weeks, or you slide metal parts all the way out and either put them over the box/books or just stretch a bit with your hands like there. Just don't try to bend the plastic headband or it will break, here is why some people are memeing on them here. Other one, more annoying to me, is the INNER cup fit. Cups on HD600 itself are bigger than on HD598, but are also thicker which resulted in no so touchless fit like on HD598. With time I got used to it but sometimes it still sparkles my autism, I think I will try to stretch pads a bit and see what happens. I wanted to replace them but there were measurements on how different pads can fuck up stock sound so I didn't do it yeat, altho Shure Alcantara pads looks sexy as fuck but they are first, expensive (40$) and second HD600 pads are mounted on a glued ring so I you would have to rip that ring and glue them on your replacement pads altho here they go around 12$ http://www.modhouseaudio.com/sennheiser-earpad-adapters/fz5hnljhxcvpcrybgsum5drj41umx0.

>>60016621
HD600 coming from HD598.

They hurt the first couple days of use. The clamp was very annoying the first week.

After a month, they became at least as comfortable as the HD598.

>>60014757
HD600.
>>60014422
>wake up
You're still wrong.

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Alright, let's get this straight once and for all. Do the MDR 100abn's have a u-shaped or warm sound? Some people say that the treble is too shrill, some say its nonexistent, reviews on these cans are all pretty good but I cant find a consensus on their sound signature

If I have a Xonar Essence STX card, can I plug in speaker to it, then plug in headphones through a jack in the speakers? Will the headphones take advantage of the amplification?

>>60017912
kek no.

>>60016071
the fulla2 aint that much better than the e10k anyways so if your goal is to kill 2 birds than dont go with either.

>>60017433
>>60017144
>senncucks

>>60016597
AKG is better than sennshit, but don't get the K712, get the K702 instead

>>60017433
>says something is wrong
>doesn't explain shit

Why are you still there?

How does the Xiaomi Hybrids compare to the KZ ATE?

>>60006905
Bump for more suggestions.

Basically looking for the closed endgame.

>>60018561
They're less accurate.

>>60018236
Oh noes, it's the senn-hating AKG shill.

You can tell it's him because he never explains why he does think AKG is better or what his problem is with the senns.

Anyone have a better audio interface than focusrite? I've had way too many issues with them and I want something else.

>>60018236
>K702

>shit sealing
>roller-coaster treble response
>shit distortion

Why do people recommend these garbage headphones again? At least go DT880 or HD600.

>>60012508
>Unironically attached to something that doesn't exit
>To the point of defending it

>>60018715
>closed endgame
Mr Speaker ETHER C Flow, altho thats waaaay out of your price range, from 1500-1800$. There is also new AEON that has a 100$ discount for first units but that's still 700$. Besides Fostex and Mr Speaker I don't know any other companies that specialises on 'end game' closed headphones.

>>60016020
The fulla 2 sounds better than the e10k though. The e10k sounds harsh and thin in comparison. I guess it comes down to price his country.

>>60016071
The fulla 2 sounds better than the e10k, but it's a 'minor' difference. The fulla doesn't sound harsh and the bass is a little more prominent. The penny pinchers here WILL get triggered by this comment.

>>60016680
This. Nearly all knowledgeable people in this field prefer the 600. Really makes you think.

>>60019035
>HD 600
>That driver balancing
>No soundstage
>No detail

Hmmm...

>>60018236
The 3 best headphones ive ever owned are the 600, 702 and k712. The 600 is the best of the bunch by far you fucking weaboo.

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>>60019148
nice memes

>>60019130
ok thanks

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>>60019213
must suck being an akg shill

>>60019171
Can you compare HD600 to K712? I am curious.

>>60019233
Lol, rollercoaster.

And that channel matching is worse than the senns.

>>60019255
The only thing the K series has over the HD600 is better bass extension, everything else is pure garbage.

Go for the DT880 or HD600/HD650.

AKG are for weebs who don't care about audio.

>>60019213
>>60019233
>Top: AKG K702, Q701
>Bottom: Sennheiser HD 600, HD 650
Hmmm...

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>>60019213
>>60019233
>using uncompensated raw response

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>>60019296
Pic related

>>60019312
SENNSHILLS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>60019236
I sold my k712 after hearing the 600. The 712 is one of my favorite headphones but the highs are a touch harsh and the bass was a little sloppy for my taste. That said, the bass is good and very strong for an open headphone, and they have great soundstage and detail.

The 600 doesn't have a wide soundstage at all and at first you can be fooled into thinking that they sound bland, but after a while you realize that they sound fucking amazing with nearly everything. The only downside is the sub bass, ut there's just enough bass overall to make them enjoyable with bass havey music, but if you're a bass fiend it won't be enough for you. I've EQ my 600's for more bass in the past and it worked great, I also eq'd the highs on the 712 when I owned them and that worked also.

Two amazing headphones, but the 600 can't be beaten imo.

>>60019312
That 2KHz bump must be nasty when listening to anything containing some overdriven electric guitar.

>>60019273
Weird that the 880's are getting so much love, seems like people usually rip on them for the highs.

>>60019312
Now post the distortion measurements.

K E K
E
K

>>60019379
I'll just post the whole thing

>AKG K702
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK702.pdf
>Q701
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGQuincyJonesQ701.pdf
>Sennheiser HD 600
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
>HD 650
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf

Have fun, fellow competitors. :^)

>>60019515
>>60019312
what does this all mean?
that k702 > hd600 & 650?

>>60019650
The opposite.

>>60019650
yes

>>60019650
Maybe

>>60019650
Nothing, that THD is so low you wouldn't even hear it. Another example graphs jerk by people who don't know what they mean.

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>>60019650
Buy AKG if you want ear cancer.

>>60019725
>Anon can't handle highs
And Sennheisers if you want no treble and bass :^)

>>60013753
Lint roller for some.

I use tape.

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>>60019749
I don't want garbage AKG highs.

Jesus fuck you people aren't seriously posting all this graph garbage again? Your sample size is too small to draw any sort of conclusions. It's the same three or four measurements across the few sites again. Aside from perhaps three people here you all suck at interpreting any data provided to you anyway so might as well not try and shut up about it.

And none of this stuff answers a question:

headphone x sounds better than headphone y

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>>60019784

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>>60019784
>He can't handle highs
All on you, anon.

>>60019749
Not him, but it's not about being able to 'handle' the highs on the 702. The highs on the 702's are straight up piercing with certain songs. It's a fact. Also, please don't talk about bass when it comes to the 702 lmao. They're flatter sounding than the 600.

>>60019866
No K702s here, famalam. Only Q701s.

>>60019907

Same garbage. Just reskinned.

>>60019907
They're exactly the same, but they don't have a detachable cable and the color is much worse. Well done.

>>60019989
Whatever you want to believe, anon; but they /comfy/.

>>60020000
>No detachable cable
>Anon has never tried the headphone
Nice digits, though.

>>60020020
>Whatever you want to believe, anon; but they /comfy/.
It's a fact, kiddo.

K701, K702 and Q701 are the same internally.

>>60020033
This.

>>60020033
Internally? Yup. But the exact same, anon?

>>60020058
Only difference is the K701 lacking a detachable cable.

K712, K702_65th and K7XX are the same internally and are different from K701/K702/Q701.

>>60020085
Are you >>60020000?
I have Q701s not K701s.

>>60020136
No.

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>>60006710
What are your thoughts on the MDR-XB950AP?
I bought Beats Pro like 5 years ago and I've never stopped regretting it. Wearing them makes my ears so sore. I'm quite a bass pleb because I enjoy that kind of shit so that's not a negative for me, but what are your thoughts on this pair overall? Worth the buy for £59.99?

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>>60019853
What are with these headphones?

>>60020136
That's a different guy. Don't assume it's one guy arguing with you just because you're wrong.

>>60020215
They're the world's best headphones and for only $300 they best HD800s, SR-009s, LCD-4s.

>inb4 deluded butthurt poorfag sennshill name calling

Name a better headphone and I will buy it. Better meaning higher fidelity / more accurate to the source. Reminding you faggots that headphones are an audio reproduction tool and not jewelry.

>>60020323
>Don't assume it's one guy arguing with you just because you're wrong
>Both implied I had a K701 instead of a Q701 from
>>60019907
What did he mean by this?

>>60020215
>>60020345
Kek. Aren't they supposed to be """neutral""" headphones?

>>60020369
They are. Your precious AKGs or whatever has more flaws.

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>>60020427
Silly anon, I didn't choose my headphones for a """neutral""" sound signature.

>>60019312
>>60019853
>>60020215

>>60020465
Oh right, you're a dumb AKG weeaboo.

Enjoy your ear-rape highs:
>>60019725

>>60020200
Fuck it, I'm buying them.

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>>60020507
Thank you! I'm already enjoying them myself. I hope you're enjoy your "neutral" sound signature too, anon :)

>>60020629
>one headphone is clearly more neutral than the other

>enjoy your neutral headphones XD

Are you done?

>>60020687
See
>>60020465
Also:
>Unironically falling for the HD 600 is """neutral""" meme

>>60006761
I got an X1 and the left side has more bass than the right...

Is there any way to have separate equalization for each side with software?

>AKweebs
>SennShills

Cant we all just get along.

They both have pros and cons.

>>60020728
https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/

>>60020716
>less flaws than AKG shit
>more neutral than AKG shit
>says it's not neutral

It's certainly neutral for headphones. Only beaten by the Etymotic ER4S/ER4SR but those are ear dildos and do not count.

>>60020735
Would you like to join our little game of shitposting, anon? The anon with the most (You)s by the end of the thread wins. :^)

>>60020760
>That driver imbalance
>No soundstage
>No detail

>It's certainly neutral for headphones
>>60019312
>>60019853
>>60020215
>>60020465
>>60020629
>This is neutral now

I need comfy as fuck closed back around-ear somewhat balanced headphones below 140$ for music and games.

are the HD558CS worth it? They seem to be somewhat of ameme now on /v/ but they really look pretty good for 100$.

>>60020809
I'm going to assume you meant the HD 598Cs'. If so, they're muddy pieces of garbage. Nothing like the HD 598s. They're not worth it.

>>60020805
>soundstage, detail

Resorting to buzzwords when you're desperate? kek

I'm curious. Why do the HD650 get overlooked so much in this place when they are arguably the better headphone than the HD600? You get more air, details and punchier bass at the cost of a slightly warmer sound.

>>60020855
>Soundstage
>Defending the HD 600's narrow-as-fuck soundstage
>Detail
They don't call 'em "Veilheisers" for nothing, anon.

>>60020856
So much audiophile buzzwords, I thought I was on Head-Fi for a moment.

>>60020890
>gets BTFO
>resorts to soundstage / detail posting

I'm done, dumb AKG weeaboo.

>>60020856
Less neutral, recessed treble, less clear mids, less detailed bass.

Stronger bass though. If you really, really, really like that.

IMO HD650 shouldn't even exist.

>>60020925
>BTFO
>Projecting

Kek. Cya later, silly anon.

>>60020940
>IMO HD650 shouldn't even exist.
I like HD650 but I prefer HD600. Both of these headphones still shit on everything else on the market today.

Really makes you think.

>>60020735
I thought ATH are choice of the weebs, made in nippon and have good highs for dem sining lollies.

>>60020893
>Resorting to "m-muh audiophile buzzwords"
Huh.

>>60020973
Ever heard of the concept of exoticism?

Japanese headphone enthusiasts and otakus really like AKG headphones because it's a very foreign design.

It's the same reason the iPhone is the most desired phone in China.

>>60020940
This, you couldn't have said it any better. I've asked this question here before. The extra sub bass on the 650 is tiny, and the overall sound doesn't match the 600 at all.

>>60021036
AKG look literally like open back ATH with a ball on them. Also, weebs are westerners that are obsessed with animu, they would rather get japanese headphones if anything or there is a reverse webaneesm there?

>>60021154
Not many ATHs have appeared in anime and manga like the AKGs have. It's definitely a strange concept.

I'd say the CD900ST should be the ultimate weeb headphone as every seiyuu uses that.

Is the V-moda XS a good buy for portable listening?

I tried Bose QuietComfort 35 but didn't like how they fit over the ears and the sound was a bit weird. Felt like the bass was too poor and when turning the head it appeared the noise cancellation had issues.

Been looking at Sony MDR-1000X as an alternative but haven't found somewhere where I can try them out. Are the sound and bass quality good and are they comfortable for let's say a 4-5 hour flight?

>>60021189
Kisaragi Chihaya owns a SONY MDR-CD900ST in the anime. Also seen using the K701 in her M@STER ARTIST 2 CD cover.

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>>60021154
Don't you want to wear the same headphones as you're waifu Mio?

>>60021413
No. Looks uncomfortable AF too. It probably is. Notice her unpleasant face.

Sonoda umi > mio, and she definitely uses HD600, but has the modesty not to show them off like that.

Mio's product placement is shameless.

>>60021474
AKG headphones are /comfy/; both aesthetically and in actual.

Mmmm

4 years ago when /hpg/ was new, HD600 and HD650 were continually bashed. Now they are the king of headphones here.

Really makes you think.

>>60021413
Mio's voice sounds amazing on HD600, that forward midrange really wins the race. Also, U DON'T KNOW SHIT BOUT ME WAIFU!!!!

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>>60021578
They are still bashed; they just have a much larger following now.

>>60021584
HD600 have a muddy midrange though.

>>60021578
only redditors defend snapheisers

Are 7.1 headphones a meme? Are single drivers still the best?

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>>60021765
More drivers = better headphones, anon :^)

>>60021584
umi and eli do sound so much better. Chihaya too.

>>60021702
roflmao

>>60021765
Yes by far. 7.1 headphones are a scam.

>>60021578
HD600 are good headphones, if you can get them for like $200-250. People paying $300 for that shit are retarded.

>>60021702
Lol no, it might be warm but HD600 have best midrange, also forward.

>>60022005
>but HD600 have best midrange, also forward.
>when K701 has a much clearer midrange

roflmao

>>60021968
>People paying $300 for that shit are retarded.
WTF?

>>60022072
Yeah, the sound isn't worth $300. My oppo pm-3 when properly EQ'd blows them out of the water.

>>60022072
truth
the channels aren't even matched properly

>>60022046
lol, no. What a rollercoaster. Your "clear" mids definitely mean just "forward" mids. HD600 is way more neutral and swings way less.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=703&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

>>60022100
As if AKG was any better.

>>60019725

>>60022046
I am not gonna partake in futher shitposting that commerced above. HD600 has best midrange out of all german trio and I tried them all. The end.

>>60022136
>The channels aren't even matched properly
Here, let me give this a shot:
>>60019312
Kek.

>>60021722
this is too true. r/headphones should be called r/sennheiser

>>60021765

Every single thing related to surround sound is shit.

>>60022146
>german trio
>akg german
Akg is Austrian familia

>>60015411
>>60015432
>Neutral
>M50X
Nigga must be deaf. Get M40X's instead with new pads.

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>Budget
~$250
>Location
Aus
>Source
Pc
>Type of headphone
Headphone
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Ultra
>Sound signature
Neutral
>past headphone
T50RP, sounded like tin cans t b h

How about STAX or planar magnetic?

>>60022216
Both good. Standard dynamic drivers cannot compete.

>>60022216
Pointless to focus on driver type if you want quality and good products. If you just want to buy a headphone because it uses a specific technology, be my guest.

>>60022209
HD599, HD598se, DT880 Premium 250Ω, HD558, ATH m50x.

>>60020809
598Cs are hot memed trash. HM5's or XPT100's are a better buy.

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>>60022231
The type of driver has nothing to do with the sound quality.

It is still on a case per case basis, and exotic drivers do still have to compete against other headphones around the same price.

>>60022362
>>60022209
M50X's don't belong on that list, senpai. AKG K612/Brainwavs HM5 are also notable mentions to look at.

>>60022416
Then why the best headphones are exclusively STAX and Audeze?

>>60022204
>Anschluss

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Anyone else using these bad boys? feels good man

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...

hey guys i'm lookin for some headphones that I can wear without guilt when my head is stinky cause I haven't showered after a few days. So like, something full-sized, open-backed, very comfy, mostly neutral, but doesn't have a headband that goes over your hair, but like rests on your neck or something, idk literally anything that doesn't have to touch my hair would be fine. I don't care about budget, anything up to like $1k is fine

When plugging my m50x into my computer i can hear a feint squeaking. assuming it is my on board motherboard, and i believe it would be more expensive for me to replace my motherboard and processor so i'd rather get a dac/pre amp and new headphones.

Anyone know a nice set up that is a upgrade from m50x. Got $460 coming in next week and have some spending money in the checking.

>>60022586

new thread

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Fuck these nonderachable cables

>>60021578
Name a clear better headphone. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you're a weeaboo akg owner.

Be honest.

Can someone with knowledge of ipod modding help me?

I'm trying to stick an msata SSD into a 5g but I keep getting reboots when I connect it up with the ZIF to msata adapter.

I have no problems when I reconnect the original HDD and reassemble it so I know its the SSD/adapter that is causing the problem

Does the SSD need to be a certain format to be accepted for writing back the stock OS?
I need to restore the stock firmware so I have a stable device I can flash Rockbox onto.

>>60022449
Are they?

>>60010764
>oh polyurethane nvm
There are real leather pads but theyre expensive. Polyurethane is clearly listed as an alternative because it's cheaper.
Look up reviews for any name brand mice above $30 and you have teens and fatfucks complaining about how the material of some mice makes their palms sweaty. Disgusting.
>>60010706
The fat fucks are complaining about sweating at basic room temperature or even below in fall, winter, with AC

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What would be a better DAC/Amp to power my m560's? cant decide

>>60015168
Why are you suggesting TH-X00's when he's looking for neutral headphones? That's just fucking retarded.

>>60015432
>neutral
>m50x
kek

>>60015512
no