/pcbg/ - PC Building General - "Extreme Case Modding"

Why are Seasonic PSUs so good? I've used multiple Rosewills within the last 2 years, and theres nothing wrong with them other than the occasional black soot whenever i go to clean it. Smells weird too

>>59595060
They aren't any better than their main competitor, Superflower.

The new Rosewills are made by a much more reputable manufacturer than the old ones were. As in they're no longer PC deathtraps.

>>59595060
Superflower is better.

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>>59594894
I'm planning on upgrading later and, for me, performance wise, haswell is good enough and with /o/ endeavors and uni, I'm on a budget.
With ryzen 5 coming up, if I give it a month or so to iron kinks out, would a 4c/8t 1400 or 1500X compare with a 4th gen i7 since they're both around the same performance per core but costing less than $200?
It'll be paired with a GTX 1060, as I already have that, so I wouldn't imagine it bottlenecking much at 1080p.

Also, I'm coming from an fx-8320e since it was very cheap and performs pretty much the same as the phenom ii 965 (which was fine in of itself) it replaced and I only switched for temps and freebies I got that reimbursed the processor and then some.

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>>59595337
Just don't get intel

So I'm looking to build a new PC from scratch on the first quarter of 2018
I assume Intel will launch CoffeeLake and its new socket for that time
But I have no idea for GPU's, wanted to buy a 1080Ti or I can assume that nvidia will be launching its 1100 series by that time?

>>59595337
>>59595355
or wait until intel beats amd again baka

inb4 waitfagging

>>59595421
>i will build a new PC in almost a year
fuck off

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3fCzsJ
r8

>>59595421
>1Q 2018
definitely, DEFINITELY intel.

as for nvidia, they will probably have their volta arch out by then, maybe not, not sure
1 year is a lot of waitin' to be speculatin'

Gonna be building a new PC in September.

Should I get a Vega to get by for a while until nvidia releases 1180 ti or should i just get the 1080ti and sell it next year?

>>59595473
>buying a dual core i3 with no extra threads when even the G4560 for $40 less has 2 cores and 4 threads
fucktarded/10

>>59595486
how about you wait until vega is actually released

>>59594894
Is dual channel ram worth it? Is there a big difference between two sticks of 4GB 2400 ram and a one stick o 8GB 2400 ram? I heard it's important when you're using integrated gpu but just how important?

>>59595502
>G4560
stock or cooler master?

>>59595532
the only reason not to buy a dual stick kit is if you buy a mobo with less than 4 ram slots

>>59595543
the fuck are you talking about?

so is acrylic and computer stickers really that easy to use?

>>59595512
well that going to be in a month so its going to be out in September. I was just wondering if I should get that or just go straight for the 1080 ti without fucking about.

I guess I get your point. May as well get the 1080 ti and sell it.

>>59595601
Only YOU can decide that because there are no benchmarks of Vega yet.

>>59595554
stock cooler or cooler master cpu cooler

Is it worth getting Ryzen if youre gonna use Windows 7?

Heard it works but no updates

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>>59595430
>AMD WILL NEVER WIN, JUST BUY INTEL NOW
>WAIT GOYIM, JUST WAIT!

Funny how the tables turned like that in the course of a month.

>>59595615
you cant OC the G4560 or any of the i3 except that one K model, and they dont run hot at all, so why would you need an aftermarket cooler for one of the most efficient chips atm?

>>59595635
yeah. you're gonna have to upgrade sooner or later anyway. and it's the same deal with the latest intel chips.

>>59595637
why did you take the bait you fucking retard?

Just installed a new PSU. Is there a more unrewarding component?

i need new case fans; what's the best price/performance point for low noise? tell me quick before i buy into the noctua meme

>>59595754
fractal, be quiet.

>>59595709
optical drive.

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Should I wait on buy a 1080 ti? Will the Vega lineup probably decrease its price point?

>>59595782
rumour is that vega is a bit slower than 1080ti (but faster than 1080), so it depends on how they price Vega. Probably wont decrease by much.

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>>59595706
what else should i improve

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>>59595706
>why did you take the bait you fucking retard?
To prove to others who are too stupid to see the bait that it was shit bait

>>59595809
Wait for Ryzen 5 or 3.
You cant run that CPU with that mobo without updating BIOS and you cant update BIOS on that mobo without a CPU installed.
RX 480 8GB is cheaper and at least as good and in some cases better than 1060 6GB.
Get a bigger SSD.
3000MHz ram is the same price as 2400MHz. And get RAM without heatsinks that sticks up above the PCB.

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>>59595809
>dual core
>2017
Depends on the use case but fuck man.
What do you think you should improve?

>>59595613
Oh yeah sure but its obviously not going to top 1080ti. Its going to be a cheap equivalent to 1070 maybe

>>59595809
total budget?

>>59595868
lolno. 480 is already between 1060 and 1070. see >>59595801

>>59595809
>1060
>pentium

UNDERRATED POST

>>59595430
what would intel make under $200 that'd compete with a 4c/8t cpu?
I'd imagine on the higher end, intel would btfo amd, but what would they do within budget?
I do like extra threads as I do use multi-threaded applications often, so an i3 is right out and a low end i5 would be lacking in the multi-threaded department.

>>59595809
invest $100 in an i5 by ditching the 1060 for an rx 470.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/61cfub/gpu_asus_rx_470_strix_9850_15999414233830397/

>>59595879
Still not better than the TI. Anyway I think I'm just gonna get the TI, fuck it.

>>59595888
>hat would intel make under $200 that'd compete with a 4c/8t cpu?
a cheaper 4c 8t with better IPC.

>>59595902
and no one claimed it was better, learn to read and stop trying to be so fucking defensive about it. sounds like you're some nvidia shill ffs.

>>59595912
? I was not being defensive, I asked whether I should go for the Vega and wait for the next high TI to come out or go for the current TI. Then when you said wait for Vega specs I realised that it doesn't really matter 'cause its probably going to be only a couple of hundred dollars difference so may as well go for the 1080ti. That is all.

Also I doubt anyone really comes in here to advertise.

>>59595912
If Intel made a 4c/8t cpu for under $200, it'd either make the consumer i5 and i7 moot at their price points, or drop their prices down on all other tiers significantly.
And knowing Intel and how they retain value and don't budge in prices, I doubt they'd do that.

What case fans are the general recommended ones? Just like how many people recommend cryorig H7 for a cpu fan.

>>59595859
I all ready have a case
>>59595858
whats the best brand of the RX 480
there a store near by me that sells SSDs for 69.99 and 2TB hard drives for 59.99

Is it worth spending the extra for 3200mhz DDR4 over 2400mhz in a build with 7700k and 1080 Ti?

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>>59594894
How is this build shaping up peeps?
sub-$2000

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3QDXH

Recommended changes?

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>>59595984
>X is between Y and Z performance
>"b-b-but it's still not better than Z!"
>"i-im not defensive!"

>>59596009
it's only $10-20 for a significant speed increase....

>>59596018
ASUS mobos are having issues.
>buying windows
>WIFI
And you might wanna get a 1080 to get the best experience from the CPU.

>>59596060
the price difference is bigger here and I don't know if that speed increase will actually have an impact

>>59596018
aio liquid cooler instead of air cooler.

arctic cooler 240mm.

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>>59596060
>>59596018

I'm trying to make it meet my cousins requirements.

~Wireless is one of them.
~He's vehemently anti-piracy (thus the windows 10OS purchase).
~And it's got to be sub-$2000, as that's the budget given.


So yeah..

>I am planning on a AM4 / R7-xxxxX upgrade though eventually, so the MoBo tip is helpful.

>>59596113
then google a test for the shit you will use the PC for

>>59596119
>AIO meme
enjoy you're pump noise

>>59596147
he sounds like a faggot.
and why the fuck does he need 8TB of fucking storage?
and you had no SSD.
and here's a cheaper mobo with built in Wifi.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X9XyRG

>>59596183
>enjoy you're pump noise
i don't hear shit m8.

come over and listen.

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try to find one thing wrong with this build I dare you.

>>59596183
>>59596147
oh and the case you picked is utter cancer.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9XL7YJ/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bkw

>>59596186
go see an ear doctor

>>59596192
>buying i7 just before AMD release R5 that could force Intel to lower prices.

Apart from that, and expensive meme motherboard, nothing.

>>59595706
Fuck off m$ marketer im not going to get windows 10

>>59596221
it supposedly has the best OC capabilities and I when I do buy the build cpu will probably be cheaper

>>59596245
i havent bought windows myself since 2003 and i never told you to buy it, but the fact is you need win10 if you want DX12 and use all the features of the new CPUs.

>>59596261
>best OC capabilities
>for kaby lake
literally any z270 mobo will get that shit to 5GHz or very close to that.

>>59596197
>go see an ear doctor
come over and listen faggot.

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>Extreme case modding edition
Noice. Can I put a PC in this or is it a fire hazard?

>>59596183
>faggot
Doubt it, he's got a fat wife and three kids already.
>8TB storage
Reasons
>no SSD
Price restrictions
>cheaper MoBo
Thanks
>>59596197
>case
I don't know, I like my black CM Stormtrooper more, that carrying handle comes in handy. It's what he picked.

Ok, I'll poke around a bit more and incorporate the suggestions.

>>59596358
>price restrictions
>$2k
>no SSD
learn to prioritize.

>case
that $40 tesseract shit case you had in the list isnt even close to a $80 enthoo, fractal or corsair case.

What's a good horizontal case that can both fit a 1070 and serve as a stand for my monitor?
I don't really care if it's atx or matx as long as the 1070 fits.

>he fell for the ssd meme

Muh load times

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>>59596358
>>59596401
this case has handles: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gnrDXH

also, faggot means more than gay.

>>59596426
lian li and fractal has some (pic related).

>>59596358
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbDqXH

buy this, get the 8tb drive if you really want it instead of the m.2 ssd.

>>59596547
you're $200 over budget AND you're missing several requirements he listed...

>>59596569
extra 200 for a 1080 ti.

>>59596613
so? you're over budget AND MISSING REQUIREMENTS.
not only that, but you went and got a overkill PSU for a system that barely uses half the wattage.

fuck off.

>>59596645
>so? you're over budget AND MISSING REQUIREMENTS.
you're a big fucking retard you realize that?

why are you getting an 1800X for a 1060?

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I am searching for a new screen:

>Larger than 24"
>4k
>IPS
>16:10
>affordable

Does such thing exist?

>>59596662
>why are you getting an 1800X for a 1060?
go get your eyes checked you fucking mongoloid.

>>>/out/

>>59596684
>go get your eyes checked you fucking mongoloid.
1070 isnt anywhere near better.

you have a complete tard build.

its absolutely useless for anything.

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>>59596712
I have a GTX 1080 in my parts list.

>>59596712
>>59596735
And your 1080ti build is absolutely useless for everything that guy wanted.

PS. i hope you realize now im not the fucking guy that posted asking for help, you stupid fucking moron.

>>59596735
says 1070 m8, should be buying a 1080 used also.

an 8tb hard drive is fucking useless as well.

a wifi module is even more useless.

I'm about to get a GTX1060. What's the disadvantage of getting a single fan GPU? I'm using a HTPC case and I think a full length card will fit, but a short card will be a lot more comfy. Do the single fan cards make more noise?

>>59596753
see >>59596751 and he specifically said he wanted 8TB drive.

you can stop posting now.

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Get G4560 + 470 now or wait a month and see what AMD brings to the table?

>>59596968
wait. if anything intel might lower prices or announce their new cpu

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>>59596192
>1070
>evga PSU
>spending more than 150$ on a mobo
>512GB fucking INTEL SSD and no data drive

>>59597076
>thinks that EVGA PSU is bad
>thinks everyone needs a HDD
>>>/v/

>>59597112
>>thinks that EVGA PSU is bad
g1 psu's are bad.

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>>59597139
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=442

>>59597181
>http://www.overclock.net/t/1476935/why-you-should-not-buy-an-evga-supernova-nex650g-750g-aka-g1
nice try nigger

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Does anyone have any experiences of the Raijintek Thetis? About to pull the trigger on one but would like to know how painful the cable management is on one and how noisy it is.

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Why are all the 1080ti sold out? When will they be back in Stock?

>>59594894
what are some cube cases?

What's a good 4TB HDD? I have a 1TB right now but I want to move move more stuff to my new desktop from my old laptop.

I heard the newer Seagates are actually okay, and it's pretty cheap to get a 4TB one ($105 from Microcenter)

>>59597139
G2's are fine tho right


right

Walking, talking fuckup here. Guys, which of these is true:

>1. The average thermal paste might need 100 hours or so to 'settle in' and cool your CPU properly.
>2. A good application of thermal paste will give you perfect performance right off the bat.

Under heavy load, my stock fan was hitting 50c, but my new one is hitting 60c. Should I reapply my thermal paste or just wait and watch?

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New build decent performance

Nephew wants me to build him a cheap ass rig to play his autism games. What's the cheapest APU yall would go with?

Whats the difference with the h270 and b250 chipset?
I'm gonna put a
7700 non k
16gigs ram
1080Ti
2 HDDs
1 SSD 2.5
1 m.2 drive

I keep asking this but no ones really answered my question properly.

would upgrading my GPU even benefit my pc? Would it be like slapping makeup on a pig?

i5 3570k
16gb ram
gtx670

thinking of a 1080 8gb

>>59598795
It'll be fine. In fact, it'll lighten the load on that poor i5. Just make sure you have a proper PSU for the upgrade and shiet

What is the goto 1920x1080 144hz monitor for the best price/quality?

>>59597885
yes

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Need a modem/router
>$100-$180
>I like asus
>DD-wrt

If I buy one from china will it be a botnet?

I will be building my first PC in may here is my part list.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 1500X
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB 1x8GB
Storage: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM
GPU: XFX AMD RX 480 8GB
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15
PSU: EVGA 500 BQ 80+ Bronze

My budget is 900AUD and I don't want ugly parts that's the only reason with my PSU I don't want spaghetti.

>>59599694
I don't think it matters, routers in any price range are typically shitty.

>>59599768
It's good, but I would add 2nd ram stick, also consider going with 3200mhz ram if it ain't one, since you haven't specified it's speed

>>59599817
It's 2600MHz and I will get another in the future.
I'm using this PC for video editing/photo editing and gaming

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>>59597937
Anyone?

>>59599847
You shouldn't be using such an amount of thermal paste that it needs to "settle." It should be just enough to cover.

are there any decent sff off-lease/business machines that can accept a low profile 1050? something with a low wattage cpu.

or should I wait for potential new amd apus?

I'm looking to build a PC into my desk.

http://www.staples.com/Sauder-August-Hill-L-Desk-Oak/product_375816

This is the desk. I want to put it in the space above the document drawer. The dimensions are 7.25" x 14" x 20". Is that enough room for the GPU and everything?

>>59600199
>enclosing a device that puts out a bunch of heat
please think this through

Damn so what psu should I get?

>>59600361
evga supernova g2 650w

>>59599800
Are you saying every router is shit?

>>59600630
theyre cheap and really inexpensive. You could have a better setup with an old PC and a good NIC

>>59596007
> i already have a case
Top kek
I meant how you intend to use it

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Should I get this case /g/?
I like how big and therefore easy to work with it is. Is there a cheaper alternative with similar characteristics?

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Aus fag here. Just want the cheapest shitposting machine I can build. suggestions?

I'm thinking of getting the Ryzen R5 1600.
Any advice on the best MoBo and RAM to get with it? 3200Mhz, 3400 or 3600 Mhz RAM?

>>59601429
w8 for r3

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If I accidentally separate the CPU from the fan after smushing thermal paste between them, will performance be worse?

I don't want to reapply thermal paste for the 4th time in a row...

>>59601431
asrock + ddr4 3000

>>59601490
why 3000 and not higher?

>>59601429
wow, which sites this? I use Umart

>>59598857
ye i got a 800watt so it should be fine. This 1080 is gonna be overkill asf

>>59601499
cuz mb might not support em since you are getting 1600 I assume you are gonna get b350

>>59601502
pc case gear. I'll check Umart out are they Australia based?

>>59601521
True, B350 is where I'm going for.

It won't be supported? That... Sucks..

>>59601484
Dumb question but R3 will use the same socket as the other ryzens right? do you know the estimated price?

>>59601540
yeah they have stores all over Australia

>>59601547
check ur mb specification to find out. Most of em support max to 3.2 ghz, but rumor has it that it might not hit that high. check memory compatibility list.
>>59601558
seems like it, and price would be around 120ish.

>>59601578
Thanks for the tip my dude!

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>>59601566
Cheers nigga

>>59601614
nice, that's cheaper

Does ram manufactor really matter? I've been using Kingston valueram in my old build and I never had an issue with faulty ram or whatever, in my new build people keep telling me to get corsair but if i get kingston again I'll save money...

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>>59599694
enterprise access points are way better than consumer shit.

checkout ubiquiti shit scrub

>>59601675
Not really, but depends on your CPU and motherboard compatibility it might vary.

>>59601488
just as long as they have a good amount of contact with the past between them it should be fine

>>59601377
I have that case, it is indeed easy to work with.

It will fit a 240mm radiator easily up top. FYI, if you change out the size of the exhaust fan to 140mm you wont be able to screw back in the holder screw for the window cover.

>>59601675
For RAM, just get the cheapest thing you can find with the specs you want/need from a brand that you recognize.

>>59597937
>>59599847
depends on the thermal paste. if you use a good one you shouldnt need to wait.
and what the other anon said, use a small pea size dot.

>>59598043
the new Ryzen APUs that's coming soon.

>>59598536
put that question into google search bar and press enter, then go to the first result which should be Intel's website, lazy fucking retard.

>>59599768
get a RAM KIT and an SSD for fuck sake.
And get a gold rated PSU from a good brand.

>>59599834
doesnt fucking matter, your mobo has 4 ram slots, only a fucking retard would buy a single stick when you have more than enough space to upgrade later.
get a kit with 2 sticks you idiot.

>>59599877
I dont even think there are any low profile 1000 series GPUs. Wait for Ryzen APUs.

>>59600361
Corsair (not CX), XFX, Seasonic, Silverstone, FSP, SuperFlower, EVGA.

>>59601116
>>59600630
For the budget you listed I agree with this guy, an old PC with a NIC would be better.

>>59601429
you cant use kaby lake with old chipset mobo without bios update and you cant update bios on that without a cpu installed. get b250 chipset.
also wait until amd release Ryzen 3/5 to see what Intel does before you buy.
and you have the wrong fucking type of RAM you idiot.
use PCPARTPICKER to make your list.

>>59601558
Yes. Google it.

>>59601499
Mobo support and price:performance ratio.

>>59601513
wattage has nothing to do with quality.

>>59601675
No, it doesnt matter. All RAM brands have lifetime warranty anyway and they all buy from the same 2 manufacturers.

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I want to max out Overwatch on my 144hz monitor never dipping below 144hz to minimize input lag. Is a 1070 sufficient or do I need to go higher?

1070s cost ~$720NZD here, while the 1080 is ~$1079NZD (don't even ask about the 1080ti).

Is it worth the shelling out for the big bucks for the upgrade? I plan to buy a new card in a month once I've saved up enough.

Already sold my 970 for $250 btw. I'm going card-less for a bit so I can catch up on my Wii U/3DS backlog. But yeah don't really want to wait more than a month.

>>59601709
They're neither routers or modems - they're WAPs... what are you chattin'?

>>59602457
Overwatch is not a very demanding game, it's quite well optimized. A 1070 should be perfectly fine if you have a 1080p screen.

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how much Euros would you pay for a combo consisting of used i5 6500, H170 motherboard and 16GB DDR4?

I thought of around 300 Euros

>>59602521
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bg77wV

more like $250 personally

>>59602543
got it for 250€

thanks

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>tfw you get your build from €1500 down to €1250
Feels fucking great man

Do I get the 4gb 480 out spend $50 more for the 8gb? Will it make much of a difference now or in the future?

I am thinking about buying Corsair Carbide 400 C, is there any better mid tower ? I can't go past 21 cm width

>>59603771
spent another 150€ on SSD and USB 3.0 frontpanel because fuck Antec Three Hundred

RIP me

>>59603817
get 8gb, video ram is a big deal.

>>59603817
It mostly depends on your resolution and texture settings. If you want to run above 1080p, get 8GB VRAM. But not many games use more than 4GB, and by the time games start using more VRAM that card probably wont be strong enough to run those games nicely anyway.

>>59603894
Fractal Define R5 or S (depending on if you want optical drive or not) probably seems to be similar width. Maybe Enthoo Evolv if you want a nice glass side panel.

>>59604435
not really but i would recommend getting 8GB if he can afford it.

>>59604451
>not really
nice try faggot.

>>59603788
Update it's at 1180 now.
Can anything stop me from getting these GREAT DEALS?

>>59604435
>>59604451
I want to be able to play the current lineup of Bethesda games with their graphics patches, and also the next elder scrolls. Keep in mind I'm not buying a very expensive machine and I'd prefer to not have to pay $50 more if I can, but I well if I need to.

Are there any actually good B350 boards out there? It seems everything is either slow or broken.

I'm on a budget, but I don't want to risk getting a B350 if X370 motherboards are somehow more stable.

>>59604589
you need to, 50 dollars for DOUBLE ram is good.

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Consider the phanteks p400 if you don't mind mounting your radiator up front. You can fit a 120mm and a 240mm up front if you pop out the hard drive cage. Cable management is good, it's strikingly nice looking from the outside, it has a simple rgb controller built in, the base model at 60 bucks is a steal but consider the glass one I kind of regret cheaping out there.
Consider fast Samsung revision b based ram. Mine is stable at 3600 cl14!
Consider a cheap aio for your gpu. A 120mm blows any air cooled card I've had out the window. It keeps my 980ti stable at 1550mhz.

Is it worth it to upgrade the fans in my case? I feel like the two exhausts up top don't move much air and I kind of want rgb fans.

>>59598536
>buying intel when ryzen exists
good goyim

>>59599768
go for 16 gb, 8 isnt enough now

>>59600199
just get something from ikea

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thoughts on this mod I'm planning?
>vertical gpu mount in lian li pc-Q37

my only worry is that the tubes on the aio might hit the back of the video card.

planned build:
>Lian Li PC-Q37 case
>Corsair H110i gtx (already own)
>intel i7 6700k (already own)
>gigabyte g1 gaming 980ti (already own)
>Silverstone SX700-LPT psu
>ITX z170 mobo (haven't decided which one yet)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QjspJV

my first build /g/, I'm excited

What do you guys think?
Should I skip the NVMe SSD and just get a 850 evo instead? (-€30)
Should i get a gold psu?

>>59605013
fuck that silversone psu, go for something seasoni

>>59605057
That silverstone got a really positive review from JonnyGuru and it seems like Seasonic's highest wattage SFX power supply is only 350w, I need more than that

>>59605013
I mean the pic is gorgeous. That radiator is thick as fuck, one day cpus will use enough power to justify custom loops again.

>>59605039
Here its only a little bit more expensive but way better

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BkmCvV

if you wait for the ryzen 5 1500x you can get higer base clocks and multithreading

>>59605130
I still dont trust anything that isnt seasonic or based of seasonic reference, there is a reason that seasonic has such strong brand recognition in the power supply market

>>59595706
>can't OC the G4560
you can change BLCK from intel's extreme tune utility. I haven't done it but pretty sure it works.

>>59605167
fair enough, but they just plain don't have a product that would work for me. Jonny Guru's review for the silverstone was really positive and he does ridiculously vigorous testing so I think it's ok.

>>59595355
For a 8 core processor that was marketed to be for gaming and streaming this is not that great.

>>59605295
it does gaming just fine and more cores is always good for software encoding with recording and streaming

>>59605295
it was marketed as a lower cost, lower power consumption alternative to the intel extreme edition, which it excelled at, in pro applications the 1800x is faster than the 6900k at a lower clockspeed and power consumption

I decided to finally OC my i5 7600k, I got up to 4.7ghz stable (two 8 hour tests on realbench). My volatage is at 1.280V and the hottest it ever got was 75°C, but generally it hovered around 65°C to 68°C. Am I good or do I need to go to a lower volatage (I was able to do 4.6ghz on around 1.260)

>>59605615
>75°C
>on a cpu
wew lad what a time to be alive, intel is once again housefires

>>59605666
Nigga have you ever seen a cpu below 65°C on a 100% load during a stress test?

I'm hard pressed with a choice between an AMD fx6300 and intel i5-7400 for gaming. Could anyone help me choose between the two? The graphics card(GTX 1050 Ti 4GB) and everything will be the same.

>>59605772
my athlon II X4 620 and my i7 4790k but its under a very high end custom water cooling loop

>>59605830
Wait for ryzen r5/r3 or go intel

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I need a new motherboard because every other restart the Ethernet might not work and that failing to work messes up a bunch of other services, doesn't happen often enough that this is an urgent buy, but I'd like an idea of what direction to take. Aware that RAM will probably have to be part and parcel of the motherboard change.

>>59606300
Just buy a networking card.

>>59606322
Where's the fun in that?

>>59596192
Why not 1080?

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So I bought a second hand PC for cheap (4770k, gtx 1070...) and it works well but it gets absurdly hot and noisy, so I've decided to buy a NH-D15 to OC and keep the CPU cool, I've noticed the case fans are very loud aswell, so I'm thinking about replacing them with BeQuiet Silent Wings 2's.

It's been a while since I built anything, pic related is what I was thinking to do with the Silent Wings, buying 5 of them, any thoughts?? any better options at all? I'm getting the 5 fans for 67£ plus 7£ shipping, which isn't that bad I'd say since they retail for about 20£/$ usually... still the idea of spending 100£ just in case fans is revolting...

>>59601513
No such thing as overkill :^)

>>59606430
The case is a Corsair Obsidian 650D btw. I just want something REALLY silent. Will be using the NHD15 with it's LNAs aswell.

>>59606430
At this point just watercool your shit

>>59606478
Don't wanna spend that much money though lol, gonna start an apprenticeship so won't have much money.

>>59606497
All of this together won't go over 150£ though. And it will be very silent and one of the best cooling for my CPU that I can get from what I've researched (Closed loop CPU watercoolers seem more expensive and louder for marginally better performance). Custom loop watercooling for CPU and GPU would be way more expensive I guess (and not really needed for the 1070 since I have the MSI twin frozr one which is pretty overkill), and if I just watercooled the CPU I'd still need to change the fans for the tower since they're loud as fuck.

Any other thoughts?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrdbZ8
r8

>>59606706
rx480 is overkill for that cpu.

Instead of the GA z270 like in op's pc builder list, can i also get a MSI b250 pc mate, like logicalincrements suggests?
Or is z270 better price/performance ?

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>>59606720

Why wait for the r3 when the G4560 is half the price and similar in performance?

>>59606998
way worse, stick with the other processor.

>>59605295
>more cores have historically lower IPC
>it has higher IPC than Intel's top of the line consumer processor and still costs less and comes with a decent RGB cooler
>not that great
PURE AUTISM

>>59606999
S-s-t-t-u-u-t-t-t-t-t-e-e-r-r

>>59607038
g4560 is bad?

>>59607058
Is not bad, but the R3 will be better.

>>59607086
but when will the r3 come?
and will it be shitty again with excuses like "its the windows scheduler!"?

>>59607058
Not bad, but I'd just get a 1400 and call it a day.
People already report getting some stutter on i5s
How do you think a 2c/4t processor would hold up in those same situations?
>>59607106
It turned out it was the ram actually >>59603063
At 3200, Ryzen beats the 7700k

>>59607038
but if the goal is budget, what's the point of waiting for the R3 when what is attractive about the g4560 is the price/performance?

>>59607106
During summer most likely, and most issues will be fixed by then.

If you don't want to wait, then get the pentium, but you'll be called a corelet.

>>59605167
fuck off, fanboi. seasonic isnt the best any more, it all depends on the individual models.

>>59605180
you cant do shit on kaby lake. they're completely locked down via hardware.

>>59605295
It's marketed for WORK (primarily) plus it does gaming and streaming very well, they never marketed it purely for gaming, you fucking retard. stop taking shit out of context just because they showed a slide with the text "Powerful Gaming" or whatever.

>>59605830
Neither, and only a fucking retard would buy a 5 year old AMD FX CPU today. Wait for AMD R3 and R5 CPUs that's coming next month.

>>59606401
Far cheaper and you can buy a buttplug with the money you saved for real fun times.

>>59606998
garbage. that CPU is 2 core and no extra threads, the new 7000 intel chips have 2 cores and 4 threads even on the cheapest Pentium G4560 that costs only $60 and rapes that old shit i3 you picked.
But even worse, AMD R3 and R5 chips are coming next month and will probably make Intel change their prices on some products, so you should wait and see what happens.

>>59607142
Because R3 will also have good price:performance ratio, but will be better overall because it has more cores/threads for applications that can use it.

>>59607205
Can it match $60 though? The g4560 is the same price as a ps4 game and can run battlefield one at 80fps on ultra

>>59607267
>battlefield one at 80fps on ultra
Like I said:
S T U T T E R

I hope you enjoy it.

>>59607267

>>59607289
I don't play modern games. I mostly just emulate and play older games I missed out on due to never having a PC. For that, the g4560 is a BJ from jesus christ.

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>>59607356
fucking shit where did my image go

>>59607267
even the cheapest Ryzen will have 4 cores, G4560 only has two, and the R3 lineup will have something around the $100 mark so it should compete with the G4560 and i3 chips.

>>59607429
For that it might be better option to get the G4650 as it has better single thread performance and old stuff isnt threaded.

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I DON'T WANNA PUT A BACKDOOR INTO MY PC IT'S NOT FAIR IT'S NOT FAIR

>>59601429
A motherboard with Intel J2900.

It will do just fine for anything (else than gaming).

>>59607464
Isn't a g4560 enough for things like Divinity Original Sin 2, The Forest and GW2?

>Don't wait for Ryzen

>>59608008
yep

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Lads im considering buying this right here for a total of 1250 dollars.

Powersupply

Corsair CX550M, 550W PSU
ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Bronze, Semi Modular, 2x 6+2-pin PCIe, 6x SATA

Processor

Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake Processor
Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.8GHz, 6MB cache, 91W, 14nm, HD630, utan kylare

Processor-cooler

Cooler Master Hyper TX3i CPU Kylare
775/1150/1151/1155/1156, 800-2200 RPM, 17-30 dBA

Motherboard

ASUS Prime Z270-P, Socket-1151
Moderkort, ATX, Z270, DDR4, 2xPCIe-x16, CFX, USB 3.0
DDR4 Memory

DDR4 Memory

Crucial DDR4 2400MHz 8GB
2x4GB 2400MHz (PC4-19200) DDR4 CL17 SR x8 Unbuffered DIMM, 288pin

GPU

ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB DUAL
Grafikkort, PCI-Express 3.0, GDDR5, DL-DVI-D, 2xHDMI 2.0, 2xDP
SSD / Hårddisk - Primär lagringsenhet

SSD

Samsung PM961 SSD 256GB M.2 NVMe
V3 TLC, Polaris, up to 2800/1100MB/s read/write, for production only
SSD / Hårddisk

HDD
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" HDD
SATA 6.0Gb/s, 7200RPM, 64MB cache, 3.5"


Problem is, im unsure if i should wait for pricedrops for the gpu? I heard some dude said vega will release soon which will make 1060 drop in price. What do you think? should i buy this now or wait a week or two?

>>59609405
take your wall of text and fuck off, dont come back until you have a pcpartpicker list

>>59609405
looks not bad, I'd just buy it now. Could also find some faster RAM
>>59609413
>pcpartpicker botnet
lol you're retarded sheep

>>59609405
>Intel Core i5-7600K Kaby Lake Processor
get a 7700k for $300 at microcenter or ebay.

also put it all on pcpartpicker if you want help.

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>>59609413
>>59609436
>>59609442
its actually a prebuilt.
https://www.komplett.se/product/11144#!tab:extra

Im just a normie who didnt want to admit it because id be berated here hahaha. Too scared to break anything to do it myself. Just wanted to know if its worth waiting for price drop but one of you said i should just buy it now. So i probably will, finally i can upgrade my 7 year old toaster. Saved up for 6 months to afford this.

>>59609436
if he cant spend one minute to make a easily readable list im not gonna waste my time on him

>>59609540
bajs nätagg, segt RAM, RX480 är bättre och billigare, >KÖPA WINDOWS, skit cpu kylare.

4/10 för moderkort och CPU är OK. men du är puckad om du köper något nu när AMD släpper R5 med 4kärnor och 8 trådar nästa månad som kan vara mer prisvärd eller åtminståne tvinga ner intel's pris

>>59609569
you don't know what a botnet is do you

>>59609611
>botnet on an online shopping list website
>>>/out/

>>59609540
>Too scared to break anything to do it myself.
grow some balls faggot.

if you dont build it yourself, mr shekelstein wins again.

>>59609620
normie alert

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I'm having a huge problem. I finished my build, but all that's left is a keyboard. I don't know what type of switch I like.

I really like the feel of my laptop's keyboard, but I can't find any information on what type of switches it uses. It's a HP Pavilion dv6-6c35dx. Fuck. It must be some type of Cherry

Maybe a more experienced person has more insight?

>>59609721
try asking the same question again WITHOUT an anime picture.

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>>59609569
fan vad du ska va negativ elitist då, Rannsaka dig själv.
I cant afford more than ≈1200 dollars. Do you mean the prices will drop in april?

>>59609638
oh im sorry mr.have lots of disposable income. I can barely afford this, not going to take any chances, i cant just buy a new part if i do something wrong

>>59609747
I J U S T cleared my phone of reaction images. This is all I had.

>>59609768
>oh im sorry mr.have lots of disposable income. I can barely afford this, not going to take any chances, i cant just buy a new part if i do something wrong
nothing will go wrong you faggot.

the jews win if you buy pre-built, there is a 50% shekel tax on each one of those pre-build machines.

>>59609569
>>59609540
>>59609768
Har ingenting med elitism att göra ditt jävla mongo. Kolla här:
https://www.komplett.se/wishlists/13051239-60e9-458f-9108-60189f8d1392

>bättre RAM
>bättre PSU
>bättre GPU
>bättre kylning
>samma pris

>oh im sorry mr.have lots of disposable income. I can barely afford this, not going to take any chances, i cant just buy a new part if i do something wrong
>what is warranty
>implying there's a chance to fuck up if you're not a spastic handicapped retard
just be grounded and dont drop shit, and dont work on a carpet. it's fucking adult lego.

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>>59609805
jag förstår din poäng, men du antar att jag inte är ett jävla mongo, och då har du fel. Jag betalar hellre 2k extra för en färdig dator så jag kan köra direkt och inte behöver strula med att fixa operativsystemet och montera ihop skiten.

>>59609721
Laptops are either membrane or scissor switch

>>59594894
>>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
Did I waste monies on my G3930 for my file server (and possible i2p/torrent box)? Pretty sure I don't need more power, and it was the cheapest CPU where I'm at.

can someone explain me wtf the difference is between these and why I should care about the more expensive one if there is even a difference?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017AO1ZA2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015FY3BJ2

>>59609969
>http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2837701/skill-trident-3000c15d-16gtz-3000c15d-16gtzb.html

that will 420 4chan points for my service.

>>59594894
I want to make some dust filters for my case. What's a good material to use?

>>59610077
use dust filters for that.

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Hello /g/
I was planning to build my first computer once my grant money comes in.
Is this a decent build? Are the pieces compatible?

Is the 460 (2GB) still really unreliable?
Looking at one for a cheap build.

Would a Cryorig H7 be enough to cool an i7?

>>59596356
pls respond

>>59610235
>Is the 460 (2GB) still really unreliable?
might as well get a 1050 ti.

>>59610243
yes

>>59609900
nah that's fine for a home server.

>>59609969
>CL 16-16-16-36
>CL 16-18-18-38
and the price.

>>59610103
Wait for Ryzen R3 and R5 to be released. But if you insist on being a retard this is pretty much equal performance for less cost:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7Xwpb

>>59610243
yes.

>>59610319
yep

>>59610685
Sorry anon I've never built a computer before and I'm not too knowledgeable on how everything works together. Thank you

>>59610759
greentext/quote my answer to you so i know who i'm talking to and about what if you want a reply

>>59610814
>Wait for Ryzen R3 and R5 to be released. But if you insist on being a retard this is pretty much equal performance for less cost:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7Xwpb

>>59610759
>>59610864
if you notice the compatability at the top of PCPartpicker website you should be fine, your main issue will be to get the best performance for your money, and ATM it's a bad idea to buy anything this close to release of a new product.

What are some good windowless cases below $100, and preferably around or below $80? I was looking at the Define C, but everywhere I can find it they either charge shipping and taxes or try to fuck my ass raw with shipping.

>>59610980
define S

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Is there anything wrong with corsair PSUs? I'm having issues with my display randomly turning off while gaymin and the only way to fix it is to restart my PC. I ran a stress test for 45 minutes on my GPU and it went just fine so I don't think it's that. Anybody know what might be going on?

>>59610980
Fractal, Corsair, Phanteks, Bitfenix all have several clean cases.

>>59611038
Generally no, but CX series you pictures is meh compared to all their other lineups.

Have you checked the cables for the monitor?

Try the PSU, GPU and monitor with other computers, try a different monitor, gpu and psu in your computer.

If my keyboard is Led-lit, can i still clean it by removing the keys and washing it/scrubbing and letting it dry? or will it shortcircuit and break.

>>59611528
shortcircuit means that electricity has to be flowing and jumps passed it's designed route.
if you unplug it and clean it then dry it properly it wont happen.

and if you dont drench it in water there is even less chance of fucking up. just use a damp cloth with a bit of soap.

Can I get a recommendation on a good monitor for under $100

>>59596192
Drop to an i5k and a cheaper motherboard so you can get the gtx 1080 you dumb nigger

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did you guys meme me into getting an rx 480? its not bad by any means, but the r9 fury is the same price now and runs better.

>>59612870
>he actually went and bought the meme480
toppest of keks

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This is what I have so far, but I think it might be a bit too much since the total is $1177. Any suggestions on how I can make this cheaper without changing the CPU?

I probably won't need 16 GB of memory, and the 650W PSU was to give some room for breathing since the consumption estimate is around 436W, so there's that for possible changes. I'm all for suggestions though.

>>59612921
and what do you have?

>>59612870
>same price NOW
irrelevant. what matter is the price difference when you bought it.

>>59612921
>>>/b/

>>59612923
wait for Ryzen 5. the 6core 12thread chip is about $100 cheaper.
you can get 3000MHz RAM for the same price.
remove HDD and get an SSD.
there's cheaper 480 8GB cards.
change PSU, there's solid gold rated ones for $30 cheaper.

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>>59612936

>>59613099
Any suggestions for PSUs?

Also, I picked an HDD because it's more space for the price. But if it's a must, I'll try to fit one in.

>>59613295
How much space are you using now? You can get a 250GB SSD for $80 and the speed boost makes it more than worth it in my opinion.

>>59613295
oh and for PSU just go on pcpartpicker and filter gold rated modular psu by price and pick the cheapest 500-650W unit that's not Rosewill.

EVGA, XFX, Corsair (not CX), Seasonic, Silverstone, FSP, SuperFlower are all good.

>>59613404
Around 500GB on my notebook and another 500GB on my external HDD, since I tend to torrent and archive the series I watch. Both are 1TB drives.

>>59613428
Alright, will do. First time making a desktop, so I don't know what brands to watch out for. Thanks.

>>59613490
his suggestion is retarded. there's only two psus worth buying in the sub $100 range and the more available one is the G2 650w from EVGA

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>>59613525
>this unit is slightly better than the rest therefore all the other options are retarded

Should I get the Ryzen 5 1500X or the i5-7500 with 2400mhz RAM?

>>59613634
Get 3200 RAM. For some reason its way cheaper.

>>59613703
I already ordered the RAM ;_;

>>59613710
cancel the order or return it, you dumbass.

then wait until R5 releases and then decide on what to buy.

>>59613736
Not even that anon but you could at least try to answer his question.

>>59613747
The R5 is far better option than an i5 if the performance is as the simulations show and the price is what AMD announced.

IF.

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If I'm looking for pure silence, would an AIO cooler be a better option than getting something like a 212? As much as I like the looks of the stock cooler that ryzen came with it's loud/hot as fuck under load

>>59613903
No, they have pump noise.
Get the biggest air cooler with the biggest and most silent fans you can get.

>>59613973
any recommendations for good fans that aren't noctua? not exactly made of money for those

>>59613903
aio cooler is good.

literally 0 pump noise.

will cool 10 times better than some faggot air cooler as well.

>>59613991
fractal and be quiet.

>>59613998
I'd probably have problems with being able to fit one in my case, unless they made the tubing not thick as shit anymore

>>59614017
man those are only like 5 bucks less per fan than the noctua shit brown fans
I guess I have to not be a cheap asshole

>>59612923
drop down to a 1700 to save $100
You can just oc a 1700 to match 1700x and the included cooler with the 1700 is roughly the same performance as a h60
Also, you can get a bit faster memory for the price. I got 3200mhz for ~$110
You can probably get a 390x or fury off ebay for less than a new 480. Both of those gpus are slightly faster than a rx 480

>>59614128
>I'd probably have problems with being able to fit one in my case, unless they made the tubing not thick as shit anymore
pic of your case?

it fits in my case just fine.

>>59614128
Arctic F12's.

>>59613998
AIO's are pieces of shit. I've gone through more than I'd like to admit. Noisy as fuck and pump failures are a serious thing. Neveragain.

>>59613903
A big air cooler with silent fans is the quietest well performing option.

>>59614156
I have a eclipse p400
i would take a picture but Im embarrassed by all of the gaymer branded shit that i got because it was on sale

>>59614128
There might be other options, try googling silent fan comparison. Also Noctua has black fans now, but they're not cheaper.

>>59614199
Fitting an AIO cooler there should be a breeze. However, if you care about noise then something like Noctua NH-D14/15 or even Thermalright Macho rev.B would be a much better option. They should both fit the case too.

>>59596018
but what powers the turbines?

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>>59613998
Nice meme

>>59613903
Air coolers are the best regarding noise/performance. AIO's are for 1337 haxor gaymers.

>>59614199
>i would take a picture but Im embarrassed by all of the gaymer branded shit that i got because it was on sale
nobody cares, post pic.

>>59614182
>AIO's are pieces of shit. I've gone through more than I'd like to admit. Noisy as fuck and pump failures are a serious thing. Neveragain.
sounds like you're just a faggot, my 2 case fans make more noise than my AIO.

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>>59614284
The fuck do you have for case fans? Vacuum cleaners? H100 = Hyper 212 in terms of noise, anything better than a Hyper 212 whacks the living crap out of the AIO's in both thermals and noise.

>>59614261
>>59614363
Where is the Cryorig C7?

>>59614385
C7 is just slightly better than 212.

>>59614209
>Also Noctua has black fans now, but they're not cheaper
They are actually more expensive than the brown fans, which I don't exactly understand why

>>59614284
>nobody cares, post pic
I care

>>59614414
>I care
post pic or you're a nigger.

feel free to spend the exact same amount on air cooled faggotry for less cooling power and more noise.

>>59614414
because they're industrial fans, dust and water resistant.

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>>59614389
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>>59614156
What AIO should I get for an R7 1700?

>>59614438
>replying to so many posts for attention
fuck off just use google you retard

>>59614438
>R7 1700
there arent many aios for that, no idea.

check pcpartpicker to get an idea.

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>>59614431
i can't be called a wenus on a mongolian weaving site, guess i gotta
Before you say "you have all of that empty space, what are you crying about", I'm worried that the clearance over my gaymer ram would not be good enough as that was the problem with my last build

>>59614436
neat, that's good to know actually

>>59614438
the one with the best warranty and doesn't explode

Building a rig for gaming, programming, heavy photoshopping (artwork), and some automated network stuff. Budget is around 2,300 churros, living in the Netherlands.
I'm not so concerned about the price that much, I can go a bit higher. I wanna know about build quality or if the specs can be improved. I haven't built a rig since '06.

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Fz4MKZ

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS IX FORMULA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card
Case: NZXT Noctis 450 ROG ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Case Fan: NZXT Aer RGB120 (3-pack) 61.4 CFM 120mm Fans

>>59614385
C7 ~15-20% worse thermals than 212, quieter at idle but at +50% fan speed it's the same as Hyper 212.

>>59614481
>, I'm worried that the clearance over my gaymer ram would not be good enough as that was the problem with my last build
you have more than enough room.

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>>59611089
So I thought that my screen was going black because of some sort of load I was putting on my PC with the games I am playing. Well, I was watching a YouTube video and it happened again.
When it turns off, all the fans on the system stay on but the display and the sound are turned off. I have logitech headphones that are connected via USB and they completely stop outputting sound. Would it still possibly be a PSU problem if everything is still getting power? Someone please help.

>>59614481
that's why i've been telling you faggots not to buy RAM with huge useless fucking heatsinks for years....

>>59614485
Air > AIO
Get 3000MHz RAM without huge heatsinks that sticks up above the PCB.
AMD Vega GPU release this summer should be faster than 1080 just so you know.
Ryzen R5 1600X is cheaper than i7, has better performance in multithreaded tasks and is almost equal in gaming with good RAM. At least wait until they release it next month to see if Intel lowers prices or not.
PSU is overkill, get their Gold rated G2 units.

>>59614522
Youtube is load. Try one RAM stick at a time in each slot, if it still happens run Memtest to rule out the RAM.
Run some CPU stresstest after that like Prime95.
It can still be PSU yes, do you have any other unit you can try or a PC you can borrow another PSU from to test?

>>59614546
I have a morning class so I won't be able to test tonight. I don't have any other computers to try things with, but I've already stress tested my CPU and my GPU, I'll try the ram thing tomorrow.
Thanks for giving me something to work with.

>>59614546
>Air > AIO
nice try shekelstein

dont fall for the air jew, they dont have big noses for no fucking reason.

>>59614546
>that's why i've been telling you faggots not to buy RAM with huge useless fucking heatsinks for years
like I said earlier my parts were picked with price in mind, not because they had big obnoxious heatsinks

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>>59614481
You have more than enough clearance. I would still advice against AIO coolers though, they are shit on all scales compared to proper air cooling. AIO's are only acceptable when there isn't clearance for a proper air cooler. Pic related, mine.

>>59614572
memtest takes hours, start it before you leave.

>>59614582
>nice try shekelstein
AIO is more expensive for the same performance, you retarded kike

>>59614583
not an excuse when RAM without huge heatsinks cost the same.

>>59614522
GPU overheating?

>>59614595
>not an excuse when RAM without huge heatsinks cost the same
got 2x4 for 60 dollars bub, show me where I can get the same without heatsinks for the same and Ill suck my dick

>>59614586
Will do. The PSU in my PC is the oldest part, and honestly probably the lowest quality so I'm thinking that's what it is. Should I test the ram one stick at a time or just try both at first? Also do you have an recommendations for a program to run the test with?

>>59596119
>aio liquid cooler instead of air cooler.

Hi r/buildapc

>>59614608
2x8*

>>59614605
I ran a stress test and it never got above 75C and it's an old used 780 I got from a friend. I really don't think it's the GPU.

>>59614595
>AIO is more expensive for the same performance, you retarded kike
project harder faggot.

AIO cools better, more efficiently, and quieter than air ever will at the same price or less.

>>59594894
>7mwqXH
What do you guys think about this other than the cheap-ish case and lack of SSD?

>>59614611
all at the same time so you dont have to run it multiple times. memtest = memtest, just google it.

>>59614608
prices have increased in the last month or two, but 2400MHz and 3000MHz ram is the same fucking price right now, so go figure.

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>>59614644
>7mwqXH
what

>>59614642
Every single test/review is against your statement. How far up your ass is your head? Do you need help pulling it out?

>>59614658
PCPartPicker list.

>>59614650
Oh it's literally called memtest. Thank you kind anons for holding my hand through this problem. Will share the results tomorrow.

>>59614667
just post the whole fucking link you retard

nubi here. who do yall trust to do specs testing?

>>59614644
R5 around the corner, will most likely obliterate your choice at a similar/slightly lower price point. Wait for it if you can, if not for the R5, then at least for the likely price drops it'll force.

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>>59614454
>I quote almost exclusively relevant comments
>"you came to /pcbg/ to ask questions? HAH, JUST GOOGLE IT!"
Fuck off fag

>>59614691
pcpartpicker.com/list/7mwqXH
If you say so.

>>59614694
what specs exactly

>>59614701
this

>>59614665
>Every single test/review is against your statement.
you have your head so far up your ass that you actually unironically believe that air coolers can even compete with liquid coolers.

I don't feel sorry for you in the slightest.

>>59614694
Take the average of them all. Techpowerup is a good go-to.

>>59614701
I'm going to be running Windows 7 on my build.

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>>59614711
Just to give you an example that you're fucking retarded, you replied to my post where i stated that one air cooler is better than another air cooler. How the fuck is that relevant to your question where you asked for a good AIO cooler?

fuck off