/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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mfw there are freetards in this very thread posting using google botnet captcha to post on a closed source proprietary imageboard that data mines user data for profit

3rd for fuck SMGL.

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>>59342237

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inb4 sourcemage.

>>59342377
>mint
worst distro in existence
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4v116g/can_we_stop_recommending_linux_mint/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/canonical-dev-dont-use-linux-mint-online-banking-unsecure

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

https://github.com/linuxmint/mdm
https://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/mdm

>>59342416
Still better than Windows. If I would post the flaws of Windows, 4chan would complain about max lines / post.

Arch is just a stepping stone.

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Just installed diablo 2 and there's a weird bug. I got this weird white layout when I play. If I make a screenshot you see the picture normally as if there's no bug
Other games runs fine. I got this bug with playonlinux (1.9) and wine 2-3 stagging
It works fine un windowed mode

>>59342436
Did you just make a screenshot with your phone?

>>59342236
upload systemd.png on mixtape.moe

>>59342416
It's not Feb 20, 2016 anymore.

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>>59342446
>If I make a screenshot you see the picture normally as if there's no bug
as said, you won't see the white layout with a normal screenshot

>>59342434
towards?

>>59342452
>>59342421
>>59342400
I will, just give me some time to regenerate the graph and to upload (it takes more time than you may think).

>>59342471
Except for the backdoored isos, eveything else is still valid.

>>59342512
Nothing. He doesn't know what he's saying.

Is this place really friendly?


Should I use Manjaro as my new distro? Currently using openSUSE

stupid bots.

anyone have trouble using wine with multimonitors?

have issues controlling the window with my monitors on, have to disable all but one to be able to use them

>>59342581
stupid namefag

>>59342512
source magic

should I switch to zsh? I'm on Arch Linux using bash

>>59342631
‘no’

>>59342631
>I'm on Arch Linux
damn, I wish'd I could use it too, but the install process is just too hard for my noob skillz ;_;

>>59342649
I installed it using https://arch-anywhere.org/, it's pretty easy.
>>59342645
why

>>59342557
You sure know a lot about a distro you don't use.

zsh is alright as a more interactive command line, but not for scripting or anything else

>>59342666
Well, I can read. For example https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

>>59342649
pacman -S zsh
chsh /bin/zsh
done

>>59342658
>I installed it using https://arch-anywhere.org/, it's pretty easy.
These boards are for the support of Arch Linux, and Arch ONLY

If you have installed Archbang, Antegros, Chakra, Evo/Lution, Manjaro, Whatever, you are NOT running Arch Linux. Similarly, if you followed some random video on YouTube or used an automated script you found on a blog, you are NOT running Arch Linux, so do not expect any support, sympathy or anything but your thread being closed and told to move along.

Arch is a DIY distro: if someone else has done it for you, then showing up here asking to have your hand held for more help is just help vampirism and is not welcome.
>https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309

>>59342631
if you're asking, you probably answered your question already

>>59342677
I got tired of reading those links.
I'll just have to depend on my 15 years experience using linux to keep me safe. Thanks for trying to educate me, though. You seem like a real nice guy.

I'm probably gonna buy a new computer soon. I use linux 90% of the time and was wondering if it benefits a lot from an SSD.

I never felt like I would actually need one but I never tried it so I don't know if I'm gonna feel any difference

>>59342631
zsh is a meme made up by macfags who got greeted with an outdated bash shell, so they thing bash is shit, don't bother reading the manpage and so they install zsh, write blogs about how much more awesome zsh is and created even a whole community -> oh-my-zsh everyone on /g/ is praising but it's basically 70% macOS aliases and other crap you can set up yourself

that said, zsh has some averanges like, floating point math (so you don't need to use bc) and with oh-my-zsh a bunch of neat autocompletitions, which can be useful, at least when you don't know what you are doing anyway

>>59342726
>zsh is a meme made up by macfags
it's just one year younger than bash, faggot

>>59342552
>>59342452
>>59342421(Cross-thread)
>>59342400(Cross-thread)
Here you go, senpai: https://a.doko.moe/mviqnw.png
I couldn't upload to mixtape.moe, it kept failing.

>>59342631
Try both, read both manpages, use both for al leasr 10 years, then decide for yourself. :)

>>59342763
I'm afaid this will crash my browser.

>>59342697
GNU/Linux*

>>59342779
try this

wget -O systemd.png https://a.doko.moe/mviqnw.png && eog 2>/dev/null systemd.png

>>59342779
>smiling_pottering.png

>>59342763
>gnome
>texlive
no wonder it's so huge

>>59342763
Can the anon who usually opimizes PNGs see what he can do with this please?

>>59342763
that's one long image

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>>59342817
>Much of the Open Source community tries to advertise the community as one happy place to the outside. Where contributions are valued only by their technical quality, and everybody meets at conferences for beers.

>Well, it is not like that. It's quite a sick place to be in.

>I don't usually talk about this too much, and hence I figure that people are really not aware of this, but yes, the Open Source community is full of assholes, and I probably more than most others am one of their most favourite targets. I get hate mail for hacking on Open Source. People have started multiple "petitions" on petition web sites, asking me to stop working (google for it). Recently, people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me (this really happened!). Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence. People post websites about boycotting my projects, containing pretty personal attacks. On IRC, people /msg me sometimes, with nasty messages, and references to artwork in 4chan style. And there's more. A lot more.

>https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd

#StopTheBully
#PotteringDidNothingWrong

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>>59342844
>Much of the Open Source community tries to advertise the community as one happy place to the outside. Where contributions are valued only by their technical quality,
That's literally what Open Source is meant to be.

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>>59342844
>using hashtags
>on 4chan

>>59342844
I actually, unironically agree.

What does Pottering do? He writes free software. Which is good. Nobody is forced to use the software he is wrote. If a distribution is forcing you to use certain software, blame the distro, not him. The whole systemd meme thing went pretty much too far.

>>59342844
Dear Mr. Pottering,
if it makes you feel any better, I don’t know who you are, nor do I care what you do.
Regards, Anon.

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>just spent 3 hour trying to add 60hz setting in xrandr
>had it locked to 30 in the monitor settings

>>59342880
>trump posting
>>>/p/lebbit

>>59342577
Antergos is better it's just arch with an easy installer while manjaro is its own version of arch

>>59342826
You mean the "I could not help but notice your png was not optimized anon. I have optimized your png. Your png is now optimized." bot?

>>59342945
Yes.
But if it's a bot, this wouldn't work, because it can't download the image from the link and then upload the optimized image and then post the link.

>>59342879
>https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/6/495
Linus is fucking savage

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>>59342929

>>59342844
>references to artwork in 4chan style
green frogs?

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>>59342945
50% quality, resized to 9999px jpg here
tried to compress it lossless, but it didnt went below 5 mb, and even if, the max resolution cuckoldry wouldn't allow posting it anyway

>>59342944
>Antergos
which one is most stable and "just werks" tho?

>>59343050
*hate symbols.

>>59343070
Nice.

>>59343097
>nice

>>59343093
Debian Jessie.

>>59343109
make it better faggot

>>59343093
both are "stable" and "just werkz"

>>59343109
I said that ironically.

>>59343120
see >>59342801

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>>59343010
>How did they noty die as babies, considering
that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?

> Linus

>>59343141
better read the context, then it isn't really funny

>>59343010
I like how he puts `*` instead of `u` as if it means something
(as if pre-teen children are gonna read the mailing lists or something)

>>59343010
linus being a faggot isn't new
what actually is new is https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/7tp2gYWQugL

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>>59342844
I'll cut you, fucking leddit

>>59343193
>new
git shouldn't have used sha1 in the first place
>muh speed
i know it's easy to say that *now*

>>59343205
>Bix nood
I hadn't seen that in a longtime.

>>59343193
>>59343217
>tech illiterates

>>59342880
>>59343205
>falling for obvious bait
take your own advice and fuck off
>>>/r/eddit

>>59343236
this, this bait is like 100 year old, but still: >>59342918

>>59342929
>spend a few minutes putting in a command
>doesn't work
>dp-3 instead of dp-2
that was funny

>>59343217
>git shouldn't have used sha1 in the first place
You didn't read a single word, did you?
(1) What's the difference between using a hash for security vs using a hash for object identifiers in source control management?

Both want to use cryptographic hashes, but they want to use them for different reasons.

A hash that is used for security is basically a statement of trust: and if you can fool somebody, you can make them trust you when they really shouldn't. The point of a cryptographic hash there is to basically be the source of trust, so in many ways the hash is supposed to fundamentally protect against people you cannot trust other ways. When such a hash is broken, the whole point of the hash basically goes away.

In contrast, in a project like git, the hash isn't used for "trust". I don't pull on peoples trees because they have a hash of a4d442663580. Our trust is in people, and then we end up having lots of technology measures in place to secure the actual data.

>>59343249
>trust
>>>/facebook/

>git
reminds me of a question

I have a directory called .git where some projects are in, I've ln'd and I want to update them via my personal update script.

How can I update all projects in my .git directory at once? No need for compiling/installing, just updating/pulling.

>>59343294
pwnd

>>59342436
Right click the game in the playonlinux menu select 'configure wine' and check the 'emulate a virtual desktop' box.

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>>59343311

why didn't wrote anyone an AUR2ANYWHERE script?
should be blasting easy

>>59343328
where did you find that photo of me?

>>59343329
Because that would end up in everyone relying on the AUR and Arch is shit.

Also why would you even want that? Most stuff is simply a git clone; (your package manager built command) install

>>59343329
>running executables by literally who
Daily reminder that the AUR, PPA's, etc are <bold>THE</bold> security whole in your system.

>>59343371
call the cops, idgaf

>>59343371
only when you don't check the source before installing, which arch users usually do (since arch users aren't some plebs)

>>59343395
>since arch users aren't some plebs
lmao

that's why every second thread ITT some arch users is asking how to %something_the_wiki_should_have_already_told_him

The AUR is the No.1 selling point of Arch theres literally no reason to use Arch except for the AUR.

>>59343415
>The AUR is the No.1 selling point of Arch theres literally no reason to use Arch except for the AUR.
thx for confirming why Arch is superior

>>59343385
>idgaf
what does this mean, pls no bully, i'm new

>>59343434
I dont' grow any flowers

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Am I doing this ricing thing right?

>>59343449
more minimal

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How can I defend myself against Arch hackers?

>>59343449
>using a graphical file manager
lmao, look at this looser

>>59343462
become a gentoo hacker

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>>59343490
How can I defend myself against Gentoo hackers?

>>59343502
hack yourself before others get to you

>>59343449
get rid of the grays, use ACYL icons and fix your bar

>>59343502
use bsd, since nobody is using bsd and cares about finding security holes, bsd is pretty save

>>59343529
haiku*

Anyone ITT actually using BSD? I'm not a shill, but curious and just want to try it and want to know what would be the best version for trying it in my VM (to expand my horizon).

>>59343579
I'm using FreeBSD on my laptop
pretty comfy desu
FreeBSD is a good start
the documentation is amazing
check out the FreeBSD handbook

>>59343639
Is it possible to try a BSD as a live USB and if so can you point me in the right direction?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>59343658
echo $?

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Found this RARE pepe a while ago on the internets. Maybe you like.

#!/bin/bash
#ANSI pepe frog by HKB.

blk=$'\e[30m'; red=$'\e[31m'; grn=$'\e[32m';
blu=$'\e[34m'; wht=$'\e[37m'; rst=$'\e[0m';

cat << EOF

    $rst
    $grn    ████████        ████████
    $grn    ████████        ████████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $grn████████$wht████$blk████$grn████████$wht████$blk████
    $grn████████$wht████$blk████$grn████████$wht████$blk████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $grn████████████$red████████████████████
    $grn████████████$red████████████████████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $grn████████████████████████████████
    $blu████$grn████████████████████████
    $blu████$grn████████████████████████
    $blu████████████████████████████
    $blu████████████████████████████
    $rst

EOF

>>59343672
Actually using an alias for this:

alias \?='printf "%d\n" "$?"'

>>59343654
there is a live image of freebsd, but there's not gui

>>59343654
just try it in a VM

>>59343658

while :; do eject; done

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>>59343691
looks cool

>>59343658

$ echo "say it again"
$ echo $_

>>59343658

pacman -Syu

>>59343731
DO NOT RUN THIS
IT WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM

>>59343737
quiet you

>>59342186
Just got back into linux after 5 Years. So far in about a week ive switched distros 5 times on my desktop and laptop. Im stuck with Kali for my laptop and Antergos on my Desktop. Feeels good to be back

>>59343737
you mean

apt-get dist-upgrade

?

>>59343658

while :; do xrandr --output $(xrandr | awk '/ connected/ { print $1 }') --gamma 0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)):0.$((RANDOM%9)); done

>>59343772
lold

>>59343658

$(echo "I<RA('1E<W3t`p&r()(pwND&r{,3Rl7Ig}&r{,T31wo});r`26<F]F;==" | uudecode)

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>>59342186
> Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>Posts mocking image in OP

>>59343808
fuck off M$ shill

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>>59343070

>>59343824
>Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
>notice the "Friendly"
>Friendly
>FRIENDLY

>>59343847
>friendly
>to an M$ shill
no

>>59343808
idk anon, but even without the op pic I'd lmao if you're really, I mean, REALLY, in CURRENT_YREA aftet, snowden, after vault 7, actually, really, still consider Windows - holy crap I cant type without laughing, holy crap

>>59343808
Friends don't let friends use Windows.

>>59343896
Do you even think of normalfags who don't give a shit about ur botnets?

>>59343925
they wouldn't be browsing this thread now, would they?

>>59343933
I dont care, and I just came on here for different reasons.

>"friendly"

>>59343925
First off, installing vanilla Ubuntu is much more easy than installing Windows.

That said, even normalfags who "don't care" actually care when you laugh abou them, they may ask "why r u laughing faggot?" building room for discussion about the problems with running a completly proprietary operating system.

>>59343941
>>59343913

>>59343944
>That said, even normalfags who "don't care" actually care when you laugh abou them, they may ask "why r u laughing faggot?" building room for discussion about the problems with running a completly proprietary operating system.

Here we see the fantasy of the anon. He thinks that laughing at someone and making fun of them creates dialouge, when in fact it does the opposite. In his fantasy, making fun of someone makes them receptive, while in the real world, it gets you ignored at best, and comes across as antagonizing at worst.

I want to transfer to Linux, but I'm intimidated. I feel like it's going to be harder to download software that I need (some won't have Linux downloads, etc.). I'm also not sure how hard it'll be to get used to the new system.

Anyone have words/ advice for me?

>>59343972
Well if you're a stupid person who consideres himself already knowing everything (like the ususal /pol/ack), you should consider buying a suicide bag anyway.

Debian is just a stepping stone (to Arch (which is also a stepping stone)).

>>59343993
Forgot to add that Arch is also a stepping ston to Gentoo, which is also a stepping stone to LFS where you learn how an operating system should work, which is also a stepping stone backwards to Debain (welcome home).

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>>59343990
>I know better than anon, and I think antagonizing normies is actually endearing!
>Also, I project my own arrogance on others.

Oh, Im sorry, keep on, you fellow gentleman. *tips fedora*

>>59343988
you're overthinking it anon, don't worry, it's quite easy
you just need to build up experience and in order to do that, you need to actually start using a GNU/Linux distro
check the OP pasta

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59344039
I'll tell you if you give me that pepe script

>>59344052
Ask r9k, I'm just a collector/memer keeping things going.

>>59344035
will do

also i've found a lot of linux designs to be ugly/ oldschool looking. there not all like this right?

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>>59344089
>linux designs

>>59344114
yeah i didnt really make an attempt to not sound like an idiot right there, since i'm pretty new here

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Next week I'm purchasing a second-hand Sony Vaio computer with Windows 10 installed on it. Because it only have 4gb of ram, I'm wanting to install ubuntu, because I've heard that it takes up a fraction of the ram and is a good step into a more neet way of customizing my experience. My old computer is a pre-owned Alienware 15x with 8gb of ram and I have things like rainmeter and several other things to customize the look and feel of my desktop experinence as well as other things.

My issue is this. I've found many decent alternatives to programs that I want/need to use. I don't game much at all so that doesn't bother me.
BUT all I've done in terms of ricing before is very basic and has required no real knowledge of processes hiding in the background.
I've only riced for a more aesthetically pleasing desktop, ect.

Where should I begin when I install Ubuntu? Is Ubuntu even the flavour that I should be using with such a limited skill set?
What should I be doing to get things running as smoothly and easily as they are on my Win7 setup? What should I be researching first, what do I need to learn how to do so that I'm not stuck with something I don't know how to use the minute I get it running?

Pic related, my current desktop on my Win7 Alienware.

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Excuse me for shilling it again, but -

https://ring.cx/
>Ring is free software for universal communication which respects freedoms and privacy of its users

>GPLv3'd

>End-to-end encryption with authentification

>Identity managed by X.509 certificates

>Based on RSA/AES/DTLS/SRTP technologies

Drop Skype and related spyware and install GNU ring. And more important: Tell your friends to use it.

>>59344089
yes, learn about different desktop environments, maybe try a couple of them out on Ubuntu in a VM, see which one you like and stick with that for the time being
the most prominent ones:
- Unity (the default Ubuntu DE)
- GNOME (the one Unity is based on)
- KDE
- Xfce
- lxde (really lightweight)
- Cinnamon (default Mint DE)
you can use multiple DE's at once, but it's best to stick with just one in the end, because your system will be very bloated at best

>>59344171
Already running. It just needs more ppl.
Keep on the shilling.

>>59344171
>>59344193
how did discord manage to get literally everyone and her mother using it?
it's just like people thinging nonfree stuff is better

>>59344129
linux is just the kernel of the operating system (GNU/Linux)
this fag >>59344114 was insinuating that because you said linux and not GNU/Linux you were refering to the kernel and speaking about kernel appearance makes no sense
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

>>59344171
is it like a replacement for skype?

>>59344222
I really tried, but I couldn't pass by without checking your digits. Pls excuse me.

>>59344235
>>>/b/

>>59344241
>>>/r/eddit

>>59344248
nice one
now get >>>/out/

>>59344235
I somehow miss that anon with that script that was checking all digits in /fglt/ before making anew thread. Where are you?

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Why in the ever loving fuck does every music player suck ass on Linux(inb4 GNU/shit)? This is my only complaint using it, just about everything else is great.

>>59344269
did you try mpd+ncmpcpp?

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>>59344258
Not that anon, but I saved the script.

checkem() { curl -s "$1" | grep -Po "'\d+(\d)\1+'" | sort -u | sed "s/'\(.*\)'/>>\1/g"; }; checkem <thread url>

>>59342266
>>59342377
>>59342577
>>59342666
>>59342677
>>59342844
>>59342944
>>59343244
>>59343311
>>59343455
>>59343933
>>59343944
>>59343988
>>59344033
>>59344222
>>59344233
neat

>>59344295
>4 (You)'s
t-thanks

>>59344295
re-saved

>caring about "gets"

>>59342436
use a glide wrapper, run diablo2 in 3dfx mode, and check the in-game constrast/gamma settings

>>59344316
>being a redditor

>>59344269
GNU/Linux*

install deadbeef if you like gui or level up to what a music player actually should do: playing music, not displaying it, and use mpd, faglord

>>59344323
>being a mindless meme regurgitator

I want to make the jump. I used xubuntu for a while last year, but I want to get into Linux properly instead of dabbling. Which distro would you recommend if I want good customisation and a decent learning experience without wanting to kill myself a couple of days in?

>>59344360
what's wrong with xubuntu?

>>59344360
Fedora or Debian Sid.
Wikis are your friends.

>>59344368
Nothing necessarily, I just want to know if there's anything better out there. People talk shit about ubuntu being one step away from windows instead of being truly open, didn't know if it particularly mattered.

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>>59344340
>mpd
This may also fit here:
>>59343658
Reminder that you don't need a client to control mpd; you just can send it the commands you want mpd to do. For example, to get a list of supported commands run this:

printf '%s\n' "${@:-commands}" | nc localhost 6600

With bash, it's even possible to control mpd with the shell only, without additional programs like nc, for example:

    exec 3<> /dev/tcp/localhost/6600;
    printf "${@:-currentsong}\nclose\n" 1>&3;
    cat 0<&3 | sed '1d;$d'

Happy settting up hotkeys or as I've recently taken to calling it: happy hacking.

>>59344391
wew, these ${@ stuff is because I copied them from my functions, I guess you know what to do instead, if not: ask

>>59344391
nice

How do I go about customizing the Linux kernel for Arch? Had to install linux-vfio in order to set up my VM machine, now I'm interested in playing around with it some more.

>>59344403
nconfig

>>59344391
took a while till I figured out

printf '%s\n' "commands" | nc localhost 6666

did the job (for my port)

shit's neats, fucking ty

>>59344403
>customizing the Linux kernel for Arch
>Arch
is configuring the kernel somehow different on other distros?

>>59344434
>6666
found the meme satanist

>>59344457
>not liking meme ports
what is wrong with you

>>59344434
>6666
>not 1337

>>59344481
>>59344471
>>59344434
>using the first posrts cia niggers may checking
lmao

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https://www.pcmarc.com/installing-hardened-gentoo-with-luks-step-by-step/

Is this a good guide to install hardened gentoo?

>>59344490
So the CIA is listening to my music. Neat. Maybe they willr rock on and smash some tables.

>>59344497
no

>>59344497
yes

>>59344497
maybe

>>59342577
Stick with OpenSUSE, since the whole Linux security thing has come around recently, OpenSUSE is becoming more appealing due to it being owned by SUSE/Microfocus who specialise in security and enterprise tech

>>59344529
GNU/Linux*

Arch VS Gentoo
Which and why

>>59344541
none
b/c both timewaste memes

>>59344541
Source Mage

>>59344541
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>59343529
BSD is probably just as widely used as Linux in enterprise, just people don't even know they are using it, especially OpenBSD when it comes to networking/routers

>>59344269
I enjoy cmus myself.

>>59344541
arch because it's not some gentoo scriptkiddie distro

>>59344529
>using Systemd
>secure

lmao

>>59344541
gentoo because it's not some arch scriptkiddie distro

>>59344570
kekto splekto

Whats a good distro to use on a T430? I am currently using Manjaro and love the simplicity. I like the GUI package manager. I want to district hop for a bit.

Needs to run steam smoothly and not break with updates.

>>59343579
I've been using FreeBSD for the past 4 months, it's nice but I switched to it from GNU/Linux because of the lack of organisation, and how it's just generally a mess.

However, I'm looking to switch to OpenBSD soon as there is a slight resemblance to GNU/Linux in FreeBSD as far as lack of organisation goes, and OpenBSD just seems nicely put together and managed.

But as this chap mentioned >>59343639 the FreeBSD handbook is spectacular.

>>59344604
>Whats a good distro to use on a T430?
all of them

>I want to district hop for a bit.
there's no point in doing this

stay on manjaro or try debian

What's the current state of HURD? How long till a first release?

>>59344171
I hope this turns out to be good

>>59344649
I encourage you read an OS book, learn C and assembly and start writing/porting drivers yourself
make Stallman proud

>>59344649
Wait for fusion.

>>59344649
still no sound :(

>>59344649
GNU Hurd is currently a version 0.9. The developement is really slow, because the Hurd is not a primary GNU project and only 10 devels are actually workin on it. With the current speed, you may expect an 1.0 release in 2020.

That said, there are already GNU/Hurd distros that are barly usable like Debian GNU/Hurd, check them out, it's fun to run them.

>>59344677
sound was just added this year

>>59344649
take satans advice >>59344666

>>59344689
nice, I didn't know that
how well would Debian GNU/HURD work on an x220?

>>59344708
I wouldn't try it, it still lacks of lots of hardware support. Try Debian GNU/Hurd in a Vm in order to get the current feel of process.

>>59344737
progress*, etc

>le hurd fags trying to make it NOT LINUX once again
haha

>>59344753
Go ahead and creat your Linux thread, but don't shit up ours with your hurting feels because some anon interjected you.

hey gents, whats a good place to learn about grea/awk/sed stuffs? it makes me brain issues

>>59344778
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/
Best ressource I can think of. that site told me things I didn't know about after using GNU+Linux for years
>>59344753
kiss your sister

>>59342186
How necessary are certs such as RHCSA for getting a linux related job? Which ones are worth it and which ones are not?

>>59344818
ppl don't give a fuck about certs
go to school, that's what they're watching for

t. self taught neet with lots of certs

>>59344835
I go to school but its for something totally unrelated. so certs are totally pointless?

>>59344818
idk anon, I guess a cert may open a door, but it should be open already because of your resume anyway

>>59344835
>totally pointless?
technically yes
but it *can* get a foot into a door, that's all

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>>59343772
GOT EEM

>>59344851
>>59344868
should've added: I haven't done any tech related shit in almost a decade as far as resume fillers go. As far door openers go, what would the best one to shoot for first? red hat?

>>59343658
You can abuse openssl in some fun ways.

Boring examples:

Generate a random hex colour:

printf '#%s\n' "$(openssl rand -hex 3)"

or generate a random mac address.

openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//' 

etc, or for some actual fun, here a loop that changes the background color using the hex variant from above:

while sleep 0.1; do printf '\e]11;#%s\a' "$(openssl rand -hex 3)"; done

>>59344917
*terminal background colour

>>59344917
meh. It's nice for golfing, yeah, but fore more speed for daily use, just use the shell builtins:

>Generate a random hex colour:

printf '#%02x%02x%02x\n' "$((RANDOM%256))" "$((RANDOM%256))" "$((RANDOM%256))"

etc!

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>>59343988
It's damn easy actually. Most of the programs you install will be something like

sudo apt install steam

if you go with any ubuntu flavor or derivative. Anything not in the stock repos will be easy as doing a web search for a PPA and dropping the command in your terminal (it's easy). Manjaro is also pretty noob friendly since it comes set up with yaourt and you will be able to find damn near everything program you will need in there.

It's not hard it will probably be pretty exciting and you will probably have a pretty good grasp of it inside of a week and be disgusted at the old way you used to install programs/update etc.

>>59345026
Is there a GNUpepe.png?

>>59345034
it has to be edited

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>>59344163
Ubuntu is a great place to start. Check out the flavors (come with different desktop environments) and pick one you like and make a live usb try it out and install it (i reccomend LiLi to make the live usb on Windows). Once installed if you want to you can install as many DEs as you want and switch between them as you please from the login screen.

Ubuntu is incredibly easy and a great OS. Don't listen to the literal Microsoft shills.

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours

>>59344360
I would recommend Antergos or Manjaro

>>59344360
I wouldn't recommend Antergos or Manjaro

I just had the weirdest laptop failure. I'm running Arch on a few year old Thinkpad. The machine was turned on as I picked it up from the table to put it on my lap. Then suddenly, it just powers off like someone pulled the plug and there was no battery. Few seconds pass and the machine automatically starts to boot again. It goes through the boot manager just fine, the login prompt shows up and POOF, there goes the power again. I repeat this process couple times with no progress. At this point, some kind of hardware failure, like the motherboard, was starting to seem likely. I had some old live usb stick lying around so I decided to try out booting that. To my surprise, everything worked just fine. I reboot the machine normally this time and, what do you know, Arch boots with no problems. After 20 minutes, the machine is still behaving normally.

Any ideas what could have caused this?

>>59345211
>I just had the weirdest laptop failure.
>I'm running Arch
That's normal.

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So I wanna play some LAN Diablo II and run multiple instances of it with a tool called D2Multi but wine can't understand the directory I'm trying to pass through D2Multi's ini
there's a line like this

[Settings]
D2Folder = "C:\Diablo II"
Flags = -direct -txt -w

And I tried different stuff, like moving the folder to ~/.wine/drive_c or passing "Z:/home/user/Diablo II", doing the samo with just having the directory named "Diablo" so there's no blank separator but nothing works. Help please? This tool does work on any Windows system like a charm btw.

>>59345224
I could understand if it went to kernel panic or something, but it simply powered off in a blink of an eye. I'm still not sure whether the issue was software or hardware based.

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>>59344089
>>59344089
>>59344163
>>59345026


Don't listen to this guy. >>59344089 Personally I use one DE for a while and get bored with it and I always switch it up or go for something fresh for a while or something new to rice out. If you don't install the entire groups it's not many packages for most DEs. And this is Arch. No problems surprisingly.

I only do it on this machine though and it's great for showing normies irl different DEs to try and hook them.

>>59345250
check dmesg (or the logs at /var/log) to see what failed

>>59345271
If you aim for security, don't go open source, use a free distro like Trisquel.

That said, iut of the popular distros, Ubuntu has the best security. Keep your packages up-to-date.

Join the fight to stop the proprietary menace!

https://www.change.org/p/valve-corporation-remove-steam-support-for-gnu-linux

>>59345328
Yea, as long as it's supported (usually 4 years).

>>59345271
16.04 LTS is out now. But yeah that's what LTS is, they give you security updates but leave everything else alone.

>>59345298
Fedora comes with SELinux though. Wouldn't that be much better?

>>59345328
Yes until April 2019

>>59345345
>Fedora
Red Hat + NSA crap, could aswell install Windows

>>59345320
bad idea, games make gnu+linux more popular
being more popular means more people thinging about freedoms

cutting of the string means people who don't even thing about using anything else than windows

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>>59345362
t. steam user

>>59345320
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html

>>59345351
Just because SELinux was developed by the NSA doesn't mean you aren't just paranoid.

>>59345387
What if SELinux contains some DANK hacks mady by the CIA?

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>>59345407
japanese emoticon support is best support

>>59345371
Even fucking rms admits that the direct effect of non-free games on GNU/Linux is likely to be positive:
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/nonfree-games.en.html
>However, if you're going to use these games, you're better off using them on GNU/Linux rather than on Microsoft Windows. At least you avoid the harm to your freedom that Windows would do.
>My guess is that the direct good effect will be bigger than the direct harm.

However, we should not celebrate Steam. But hoping to not get it is probably not good, either.

The propaganda for animal rights / vegetarianism / veganism is doing pretty well nowadays, and they also do it kind of like that: they insist that eating meat (and other animal products) is always bad, but they also advocate things like lacto-ovo-vegetarianism and "vegan challenges" like "don't eat meat for a month" and "vegan days" (in school etc).
Their message is: if you can't stop completely, at least do what you can. If you can't be a vegan, be a lacto-ovo-vegetarian. If you can't be that, at least drop your consumption of meat by half. Etc. If you can't 100%, do 50%, there is no excuse then.

>>59345381
steam is not a game, it's a walled garden proprietary DRM service that continues to extend it's monopoly.

please read the link you post.

>>59345439
then play proprietary games if you must. but do not use steam.

>>59342879
Linus don't rage for nothing. Unix mental disorder shitfest will be like this.
Another attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXcFA_JvBOg

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>>59344269
>>59344276
>>59344340
>>59344569
What's wrong with just using foobar? Everything's chicken but the muthafuckin' bone.

>>59345517
If I was going to go proprietary software, it'd have to be for bigger benefits than a fucking different audio player.

>>59345529

Are you this guy? >>59344269

Nobody who replied told him told him that he could still use foobar. I just set that up as proof of concept just now to show that it works fine.

>>59345127
Thanks anon!
I'm considering both Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio since , yknow, 4gb of ram isn't much to work with. But I'm also a video editor and I write and create music as well.

Thanks for the link brother.

>>59345247
"C:\" is the contents of $prefix/drive_c, where "$prefix" is the wine prefix in use, by default ~/.wine
so "C:\Diablo II" would be "~/.wine/drive_c/Diablo II" with the default prefix

worth noting you don't need d2multi at all, you can run it multiple times simply by using multiple wine prefixes, since prefixes can't see processes from other prefixes

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>>59345580
I wouldn't worry about only having 4gb of ram. That plenty to run any DE just fine in my experience. I'm on this toaster right now and it's hard to push it past 3.2gb of usage no matter what I do. Pic related not even hitting 2gb in GNOME at the moment.

>>59345563

>using Wine for something as simple as a music palyer
Just stick to Windows, idiots.

>>59345580

Don't be an idiot and use Ubuntu STudio.
Distributions like that serve no purpose. You can install the same software they have on a regular "upstream" Ubuntu. They literally share the same repositories.

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>>59342186
>>Break out of the botnet:

4chan itself is part of the "botnet".

Linuxtardation, not even once.

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>>59345830
No. How does this make you feel?

>>59345864
4chan doesn't run on my machine. Get out.

>>59345878
>linux users are this dumb

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>>59345851
>>59345580
>not wanting preconfigured menus and all of the nice editing software preinstalled for you
kek

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I'm currently having a problem setting up japanese input on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04.2.

I'm not able to find an option to select "Japanese (Mozc)" inside the Region & Language settings.

I've been able to do it easily on Ubuntu 16.04 on Unity but I'm having a difficult time doing it here on Gnome.

Anyone willing on giving me a hint or two on how to use Mozc on Gnome? I'd greatly appreciate it.

>>59346027
https://askubuntu.com/questions/740479/how-to-set-japanese-as-input-source

>>59343449
Hi /u/that1communist!

>>59345867

Your idiocy doesn't affect me or any other sane person at all. It doesn't even make me pity you, because you for some reason seem to be proud of your idiocy. It's not even amusing. Your retardation just is.

Is IceWM a meme? I'm currently using Plasma because it's the DE that I've found works the best out of the box but I like how IceWM looks.

>>59345851
So is Lubuntu the way to go then? Definitely changing the default DE though. Looks terrible.

>>59343793
>>59343789
Do you expect people to just copy-paste commands without knowing what they actually do?

>>59343793
Also
>-bash: uudecode: command not found

>>59344295
What if I left this here:
'99999999'
Wouldn't it fuck up your script?
You should use something like the 4chan JSON API or something.

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>>59344295
Also,

sort -u

shound be

sort -nu

.
-n is for numeric sort (as opposed to alphabetic sort.

>>59346546
That string of words doesn't even mean anything. It sounds smart but it's not an argument.

>>59346635

Why would you install Lubuntu, which is Ubuntu with LXDE, to change the environment?
Either install your preferred Ubuntu spin from the start or install Ubuntu from the net installer and install your environment from there.

>>59346597
Try it and let us know

>>59346718
Just pick the flavor that comes with the DE you like best

>>59344481
I use 51337 for my torrents. The 5 at the beginning is to avoid ISP throttling shit.

>>59343672
>>59343725
>>59343731
>>59344391
>>59344917
Thank you for not responding with some shitty malicious command like rm -rf / or dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda. I salute you.

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>check Arch's mailing list
>arch-women exists
>arch-men doesn't
Why is this allowed?

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>>59346689
Nevermind, this doesn't work because curl <thread_url> does not contain the actual posts, just information about it. So, I suppose, I could maybe trick it with something like... pic related's filename (I hope it won't get escaped).

>>59346826
It’s just so that they wouldn’t feel bad about their inferior gender. Kind of like how there is an international Women’s day but not an international men’s day.
You could see it as a declaration that Women around arch should stick to their Arch-Women mailing lists and steer clear of other mailing lists, like they should, in real life, stay in the Kitchen.

>>59346870
Dammit. Still not working for some reason.

>>59346897
Here's your (You)

>>59346951 (You)
The truth does not need a (You). (Unlike (You)).

>>59346826
the same reason why there's a mother's/father's day, but no kid's day (because every other day of the year is kid's day)

>>59347046
>no kid's day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Day

Let me guess. You live in burgerland.

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Give me (You)s. All the posts after me should include me in them please. We can do it, /fglt/!

>>59347109
Is burgerland the USA? Because if so, he should be asleep now senpai.

Newfriend here trying to install arch
Do I need a boot loader like grub? I only want to use Linux.

>>59347215
>hasn't given me a (You)
How rude.

To answer your question, you you need to install GRUB. If you follow the installation guide, it'll show you how to install and configure it.

>>59347168

>>59347046
>but no kid's day
It's the 1st of June where I live. They say it's international, but I see from your answer that it's not as international as they say it is.

>>59347168 (You)

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>>59343658

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I'm running Manjaro with XFCE.
I've installed some of MS core fonts (Time New Roman) to

/.local/share/fonts

and it worked fine.
However, FF started to display the web pages with different fonts than it's used to be as well as the fonts in system started to render differently.
All stopped as soon as I deleted the added fonts.

How do I install fonts to be used by specific application without affecting others?

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>>59347168
4U

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I installed grub and when I boot I get a bunch of grey and black artifacts
Pic related

>>59346718
>>59346740
I suppose I assume there was some sort of difference.
Like I said, this is my first time using Linux at all. I suppose I just have some more research to do, and I can always change things later.

>>59347284
that's braille senpai

>>59347266
AFAIK there's no way.
Live with it.

>>59346951
>>59347012
>>59347239
>>59347256
>>59347272
Stop (You)ing.

>>59347382
>Stop (You)ing.
>Stop, you win!
I win?

>>59347296
Looking at everything from a strictly DE perspective, Budgie is pretty nice. Suits my aesthetic.

>>59347382
& 1 4U 2

Where do I find the package libkf5archive-dev and its related packages in Slackware? There is no repository I'm coming across that has this. I'm using slpkg. Ktown and multi don't have it for some reason.

>>59347440
I'm gonna reformat (mklabel) one whole hard drive, but there is one partition in it that I need for later. How do I back it up?
Does

dd if=/dev/sda2 of='/mnt/backup/sda2.img' bs=4M status=progress

do the trick?
If so, what is the resulting file type, and how do I use it?

>>59347296
The only difference is the Desktop environment.

Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce4 on top

Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE Plasma on top

Ubuntu GNOME is Ubuntu with GNOME Shell on top

etc.

>>59347437
I thought it looked okay too. Until I tried it. It's horrible imo. But trying them all is part of the fun.

>>59347266
Infinality or freetype2?

>>59347567
What's on the partition?

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>>59347660
>freetype2
This.
Pic related, what I get when I install the new fonts.

>>59347671
Broken old system with all the conf files, some downloads, etc. Stuff I need for later.

>>59347639
thanks man, will keep that in mind.

>>59347734
Do you want it to be bootable?

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>>59347723
I personally prefer DejaVu fonts.

>>59347748
The image? No I just want a backup of it, so when I delete the whole drive, I wouldn't lose what was on it.

>>59347798
Then it should do, though a TARBALL would be faster since dd would copy the "empty space" as well.
IMG would be just a large file, not different from a large superhottenticalechinesecartoon.avi
As for how to restore the img
run

dd of=/dev/sdax if='/mnt/backup/sda2.img' bs=4M status=progress

Be careful though with dd.

>>59347860
I can also mount it, right?

# mount -t loop -o uid=1000,gid=1000,ro /mnt/backup/sda2.img /mnt/sda2

>>59347899
Yes.
Though a TARBALL would do the same.
Why do you need it in that way instead of simply copying it?

>>59347899
I meant

mount -t ext4 -o loop,uid=1000,gid=1000,ro /mnt/backup/sda2.img /mnt/sda2

>>59347920
I need it that way exactly because I can mount it, and access its files as if they were on the filesystem, unlike a tarball, which I have to extract.
Plus, that partition was ~95% full, so not a lot of empty space is wasted, and it wasn't very big, only 30GiB.

>>59342186
New thread when?

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>>59347723
Okay you're on Manjaro and I'm on Arch so this should work exactly the same for you as it does me.

I'm using freetype2 but with a configuration file to make it look nice. The file is located at

/etc/fonts/local.conf

you might have to make it if it doesn't already exist. And this is what my local.conf (just a text document) contains http://pastebin.com/tNF0M2Fh

Or you could just install infinality fonts (google it) but that's what I was using about a month ago and a harfbuzz update conflicted with it and fucked it up so I had to move to freetype (infinality isn't in the main repos so it's my fault)

Hopefully that's helpful.

Anyways pic related is what my freetype config looks like.

Hi all, noob question. Can I install a wm as if it were another DE?

I have KDE Neon and I have successfully installed and tested cinnamon and xfce. I'd like to try a wm now. If I install one of those, will I be able to pick it at session manager as if it were a DE? Also what are nice ones to play around with? Any info is much appreciated

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>will I be able to pick it at session manager as if it were a DE?

Yep. Exactly the same.

>what are nice ones to play around with?
i3, Xmonad, awesome, bspwm

There are tons of others too. Don't tell anyone I told you this but /r/unixporn is a great place to check out DEs and WMs.

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New thread is here >>59348146
Don't post in the old thread.

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Thanks!

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Thanks.
The file is named fonts.conf though.
https://hastebin.com/wucudizeje.xml
Any idea why does it behave like that?
Also thanks for the conf file.

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nice I didn't even think of wine prefixes