/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>59348031
You should install StyleChan (https://github.com/nebukazar/StyleChan)
It gives you themes for 4chan.

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>>59348172
forgot to post pic related

also 2nd for Arch GNU/Linux is best GNU/Linux

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>>59348195
Firefox's screenshot tool fucked up my screenshot.

>>59348195
>>59348213
>redditorized color scheme
>dark variant to add to the insult

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>>59348172
Hey, that's pretty good. Thanks. The stock themes lack some contrast for my taste but it makes it damn easy to make your own.

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I'll keep my issue short and clear.

I previously had Arch, but I want to replace it with Manjaro.
Arch is currently installed on my 256GB M.2 NVMe SSD with a EFI, /root, /swap and unallocated partition. My 2TB HDD is purely /home. It currently has my rere pepe's, documents, music, TV series and whatnot on it.

Can I keep my /home on the HDD and will it automatically be found when my Manjaro installation is done? Do I assign it at one point in the installation? Should I unplug it while installing Manjaro? Should I make a back-up of the HDD files and just wipe it (I prefer not to do this)?

A short plan of steps would be very greatly appreciated. >:)

>>59348244
I like consistency. I use it in my terminals, my Vim colorscheme, my .Xresources (so any X program), my i3, everything. It looks all nice and consistent.

I've just installed Arch with the intention of moving to sway, but I'm getting the following error when trying to start it:

ERROR: swaybg requires the compositor to support the desktop-shell extension.

which doesn't seem to make much sense seeing as sway is a compositor. What am I doing wrong?

>>59348404
I'm glad I'm not the only one to do this, I've dark solarized just about everything I use and the consistency is great.

/usr/bin/setsched.sh : 

#!/bin/bash

alias schedtool='schedtool -v'

# SCHED_FIFO (system)
schedtool -F    -p 49   -n -20  `pidof pulseaudio`
schedtool -F    -p 48   -n -19  `pidof Xorg`

# SCHED_RR (realtime)
#schedtool -R   -p 2    -n -18  `pidof csgo_linux64`

# SCHED_NORMAL (games, multimedia)
schedtool               -n -2   `pidof deadbeef`
schedtool               -n -2   `pidof mpv`
schedtool               -n -1   `pidof csgo_linux64`

# SCHED_BATCH (background)

# SCHED_IDLEPRIO (background)

exit

/usr/lib/systemd/system/setsched.service : 

[Unit]
Description=Automatically assign scheduling polices to choosen apps

[Service]
User=root
Type=simple
ExecStart=/usr/bin/setsched.sh

/usr/lib/systemd/system/setsched.timer : 

[Unit]
Description=Run setsched every 1 second

[Timer]
OnBootSec=1
OnUnitActiveSec=2
Unit=setsched.service

[Install]
WantedBy=timers.target

The timer does not work. Only runs once and then stops. If I do something like:

watch -n 1 systemctl status setsched

it works as intended. Why would the timer only work if I watch it? What did I do wrong?

>>59348597
You shouldn't post your personal scripts in /usr/bin.

>>59348609
s/post/put/g

>>59348609
Where should they go then? Also do you know why is this shit not working? I doubt it's because of /usr/bin

>>59348107
Is there any tool which can tell what "dynamic libraries" a particular process is using currently?
Lets say there is a pid 8888
$ showmelibIuse 8888
$ "List of libraries"

>>59348628
I don't know whyt it's not working, and it's not because of their being in /usr/bin, but it's not recommended to put your own scripts there because that's where package managers put installed software. You can put your scripts in /usr/local/bin or ~/.local/bin or any other location provided you add it to your PATH

>>59348107
>https://alternativeto.net
Pls remove this site.
All they list are high memory bloatwares that are ported from windows.
No dev tools. No command line tools
Remove at once.

>>59348642
ldd <file>
you should see which file has that pid, and then run ldd on it.

>>59348395
This is why people think arch users are rerarded

>>59348713
Thanks for the contribution! XD

>>59348728
You're welcome

>>59348395
I'm not familiar with the calamares installer but if it doesn't give you the option to install while keeping your current home folder untouched (it might, Ubuntu installers do) you can install the other stuff to the 256GB drive and mount your /home afterwards. It won't hurt to dig around in the installer options and see as long as you don't accidentally click install. And you might take a look at the Manjaro wiki it's pretty nice.

>>59348597
It's really fucking weird. The timer gets triggered by random things, like me creating a text file in home folder with nano, but it does not refresh on its own. Seems to be linked to any change on disk.

>>59348713
>rerarded

>>59348728
I think I get where he's coming from. A lot of people install Antergos or Manjaro and run around the interwebs asking all kinds of stupid questions about their 'Arch' install. You weren't doing that though so maybe that's not what he meant.

is Manjaro Linux any good? I used and loved Arch back in the day, but honestly now that I have a job I'm more lazy with my home computing and I just want something easy to install.

>>59348746
>>59348806
Thanks for the replies.
I decided to just make a back-up of the HDD and wipe it so that I re-configure it again with FDE. The FDE that's included in the Manjaro Linux Installer is good, right?

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Hey anons i have some .aes files that i need to decrypt.
Problem is that i'm on arch and as i can see there is no aescrypt for arch.
What do i do?

>>59348681
Thanks

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Guise... w-what's going on with Arch? It wanst me to remove nvidia-libgl.

$ sudo pacman -Syu
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace nvidia-libgl with extra/nvidia-utils? 

Ugh... wtf? Has anyone upgraded? I'm too afraid.

>>59348701
>Thanks.
>The file is named fonts.conf though.
>https://hastebin.com/wucudizeje.xml
>Any idea why does it behave like that?
>Also thanks for the conf file.

Don't change fonts.conf Make another text file in the same directory named local.conf and put your config there. It will look for local.conf first.

Read the top of fonts.conf:
>"DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE. IT WILL BE REPLACED WHEN FONTCONFIG IS UPDATED. LOCAL CHANGES BELONG IN 'local.conf'.

>"The intent of this standard configuration file is to be adequate for most environments."

Winkids can't even install gentoo and they have the nerve to call themselves intelligent.

>>59348107
Let me be clear here.
People who fight over "which
distro is best"
are in fact low tier sjw linux lovers.
Linux is operating system. You should
>install gentoo
or any other OS without any display manager or
desktop environment.
>Learn how to install softwares by comipiling them using gcc/g++
>Learn compilation pipeline
>Learn C/C++, shell script, make
>Learn to make X/wayland softwares of your own.
>Involve in open source development

Don't act and behave like poo in here.
These "which distro is best" arguments should be out of your radar.
>Hail Hitler

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>>59348915
doing now

>>59348806
No, it's because arch is supposed to be aimed to people with some experience with linux and that know how to use a search engine to find solutions.
But bunch of people that install arch because they think it makes them some kind of expert or gives them some kind of cred and then they make questions that a 2 minutes search will answer.

>>59348915
show lspci output.
Why don't you want to use nvidia libGL?

>>59348880
create package from AUR

>>59348960
>>Learn how to install softwares by comipiling them using gcc/g++
>>Learn compilation pipeline
>>Learn C/C++, shell script, make
>>Learn to make X/wayland softwares of your own.
>>Involve in open source development
But I already know all these things.

>>59348962

>cyka

what is your opinion on SpiderOak?
What is your opinion on their apps?

>>59348989
that is not russian language

>>59348880
You need to take another look at aur

>>59348981
Then why do u care about which distros. They are all same linux with their devs having their own taste of desktop environment and package manager.

>>59348962
FUCK!!!! New Chromium has a FUCKED UP POINTER! It now does not respect your theme's pointer and uses whatever. It has that ugly hand pointer from Adwaita.

Who fucked it up? Google or package maintainer?

>>59348962
>doing now
d-did you survive anon?

>>59348972
>show lspci output.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Host Controller (rev 04)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev c4)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c4)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation H77 Express Chipset LPC Controller (rev 04)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 04)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107 [GeForce GTX 1070 6GB] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 10f1 (rev a2)
03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 09)
04:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge (rev 03)

 

>Why don't you want to use nvidia libGL?
But I do! Pacman wants to remove it and replace it with nvidia-utils for some reason.

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>>59349031
i dont have any problem, finished update and everything is fine

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>>59348966

>>59349063
>d-did you survive anon?
yes, everything is fine.

>>59349063
>d-did you survive anon?
I think he is kill. Rip in peace, Russianon.

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>>59349097
>Russianon
this is triggering me desu, im SERB :'(

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>>59348915
kek

>>59349031
Just make sure your theme is set right and restart the browser dawg

also
>not using adwaita, the only one

>>59349120
You didn't die? Welcome back, Serbian friend. Great 2Pac quote you got there!

>>59349125
Is that gnome-terminal?
Which theme are you using?

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>>59349160
as i said here >>59349086

Looks like i'm only person that never had problem with arch update

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>>59349159
>Just make sure your theme is set right and restart the browser dawg
I've NEVER had this issue until today when I upgraded to new Chromium. In fact, all cursors inside Chromium are correct EXCEPT for that disgusting hand pointer from Adwaita.

>>not using adwaita, the only one
It's literally the fucking eye cancer. that hand pointer is ugly as fuck. I use el cap cursor theme myself. it's like a refined Adwaita without the ugly shit.

Please, help.

I need to compile CUDA. The latest compatible gcc is 5.3.1, but I can't install it. Apt-get doesn't recognize gcc-5=5.3.1 or anything like that. I've been trying to manually download .deb but I can't make it work too:
>Breaks existing package 'g++' dependency gcc (>= 4:6.1.1-1ubuntu2)

I going crazy already. How do I install an older version of gcc?

Ubuntu 16.10 / amd64

>>59349125
>kek
so.. what did you do anon? Are you gonna hit that y?

>>59348395

I don't even know where to start explaining how retarded you are.

>apparently has been using Arch
>asking such a retarded question which common sense says he should know
>going from an upstream distribution, which he apparently "mastered", to a shitty downstream distribution

What a pretentious retard.

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>>59349168
image related

>>59349195
Yeah. I ain't never scared. I've actually never had anything break from an update and I've been abusing this install for about 6 months. Really makes me think the Linux detractors here are legit shills.

>>59349242
i upadate every day and never had problem too
I rly dont know what are those retards doing to brake shit

>>59348668
>>59348609

If he creates packages for his stuff it's okay and it WILL get installed there by his package manager (assuming he defined it that way in the package).

>>59349159
>>59349186
If Adwaita is the one depicted in your picture, then that's exactly what I use. I really like it. It looks kind of like the OS X cursors without the autistic colors and all that.

>>59349125

>people with archlinuxfr repositories

Whenever I see someone complain about a problem and I see that, I just chuckle, tell them they're an idiot and give up.

>>59349239
Let's keep it friendly, but just for clearity:
I have been using Arch. If it would be common sense to ME, I wouldn't ask the question, would I? I also never mentioned that I mastered Arch. Why the fuck would I go to a downstream distrubition if I mastered it's father distro?

Reading is difficult if you're having a bad day, isn't it?

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>>59349264
There are probably real paid Microsoft shills here constantly supporting the linux is bad narrative.

>>59349063
why do you want to uninstall nvidia's libGL.so??
Have vga controller provided by nvidia.

>>59349264
*Break

They probably install stuff from AUR without even reading the PKGBUILD or anything. Everytime my Arch broke (which doesn't happen that often), it was absolutely my fault.

>>59349321
These kind of 4chan post montages hurt my eyes.

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>>59348962
>>59349125
>>59349242
>>59349332
Just upgraded... but not before making a snapshot.

Upgrade went OK. Nvidia drivers work after the change. I think it had something to do with breaking they cycle. See pic related.

>>59349366
>snapshot-on
What is this?

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>>59349366
everything ok as i said
>i love when i see this low ram usage with chromium running

btw is it just me or firefox is even more shitty after last update?

>>59349301
>Whenever I see someone complain about a problem and I see that, I just chuckle, tell them they're an idiot and give up.

It's repo with a handful of french packages one of which is yaourt. You're a fucking moron dude. No problems happening here.

>>59349366
There's no reason to be this alarmed about it.
The package maintainers are not a bunch of monkeys who don't know what they're doing. If they want you to replace a package with another, it most probably means that the files from package 1 have been transferred to package 2, and there won't be any noticeable difference.

>>59349366
Know that mesa and nvidia are complimentary.
You can have one of them not both. meaning to say you have both but yours system should use one of them at a time.
can you run
glxgear and see that fps you are getting.
I get 125 fps with my laptop's integrated graphics unit.

>>59349404
Post background wallpaper pls

>>59349434
too big for 4chan
http://imgur.com/a7cPgUS

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>>59349186
>>59349280
a e s t h e t i c

>>59349460
that's what she said

>>59349366

#include<GL/glew.h>
#include<GLFW/glfw3.h>
#include<stdio.h>

int main(){
    int c;
    if( !(c = glfwInit()) ){
        fprintf(stderr, "ERROR: could not start GLFW context\n");
        return 1;
    }
    printf("%d \n", c);

    GLFWwindow *window = glfwCreateWindow(640,480, "Hello Triangle", NULL, NULL);

    if( window == NULL){
        fprintf(stderr, "ERROR: could not create window\n");
        glfwTerminate();
        return 1;
    }
    
    glfwMakeContextCurrent(window);
    glewExperimental = GL_TRUE;
    glewInit();

    const GLubyte *renderer = glGetString(GL_RENDERER);
    const GLubyte *version    = glGetString(GL_VERSION);

    printf("Renderer %s \n", renderer);
    printf("OpenGL version supported: %s \n", version);
    
    glfwTerminate();
    return 0;
}
$ gcc program.c -lGL -lglfw -lGLEW -lX11 -lXi
$ ./a.out

Can you run and check if opengl is working fine or not?
Output would be like this.

 
1 
Renderer GeForce 710M/PCIe/SSE2 
OpenGL version supported: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 375.26 

In a shell script, is

$(< /path/to/file)

POSIX?

>>59349477
Are you too afraid to upgrade? You know you're gonna have to do it sooner or later, right?

>>59349500
Just use

$(cat /path/to/file)

>>59349160

BASED SERBIAN ANON

>>59349264

They add 3rd party repositories. They install everything they can from the AUR and replace official repository packages.
Of course that's going to break things and then they come complaining "it doesn't work".

>>59349587
Hi, it's me, your cousin...

>>59349408

Having Yaourt installed is a symptom of idiocy.

>>59349477
>Can you run and check if opengl is working fine or not?
Just compiled it... after installing glfw.

 
$ ./a.out
1 
Renderer GeForce GTX 1070 6GB/PCIe/SSE2 
OpenGL version supported: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 378.13

Diff version from your driver...

>>59349637
Fuck outta here with your stupid shit

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>>59349468
How the fuck can you stomach that hand pointer from Adwaita? It's literally just a bunch of huge-ass pixels stacked together to resemble a city skyline.

these are THE BEST looking cursors. period. all the lines and angles are pixel-perfect on it.

>>59348880
use https://www.aescrypt.com/download/v3/linux/AESCrypt-GUI-3.11-Linux-x86_64-Install
>>59349004
>>59348976
the one in the AUR is broken

I can't decide which DE/WM stick to, what desktops are you using, /fglt/?

>>59349699
How can you stand Mickey Mouse's gloves as a fucking cursor?

>>59349737
i3wm on desktop, GNOME3 on laptop.

>>59349737
xfce4
openbox
i3wm (ditched it quickly, came to realize i fucking hate tiling)

openbox would be goat if not for xml config.
A mix of openbox functionality with i3wm-style bash-like configuration of i3wm would be bretty fucking good.

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>>59349699

Vanilla-DMZ cursors are the only neutral and elegant cursors you can get. Everything else is for children.

>>59349740
>How can you stand Mickey Mouse's gloves as a fucking cursor?
At least it looks like a hand and the pixel at the top of the index finger is actually the hot zone... unlike these Ubuntu-like abortions.

>>59349798
>white cursors
disgusting. leave that wintoddler shit behind you, anon. grow up.

>>59349798
That's what I was looking for; but I prefer the dark variant (which is the same as Adwaita).

>>59349816
See >>59349818
There is a dark version of it and it looks good.

>>59349762

>openbox would be goat if not for xml config.

Why do you parrot other people's opinions? You're pathetic.
How much time do you spend editing its configuration file? Why do you edit it manually when there's an officially endorsed GUI program which enables you to edit 95% of all the available options?

The truth is you're a person who has nothing going on for them so you adopt other people's edgy opinions and parrot them to potentially clueless people hoping to appear smart and knowledgeable for having such bold opinions about "technology".

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>>59349818

Adwaita is slightly different. Mainly the "loading" icon and I don't like Adwaita's.

I've been running Linux distros since 2003. The best distros in my opinion are:
Debian
Ubuntu
OpenSUSE
Arch

I'm partial to Ubuntu, OpenSUSE and Arch. Debian right now is fine because jessie is new but just wait until it starts getting old and it'll become a hassle. I use Debian on my VPS and home server, though.

Let me explain why I think these are the best distros. The only thing I care about are repos, the more packages repos has the better. I love AUR for Arch and OBS for OpenSUSE.

Between bleeding the most stable to the most bleeding edge it goes in this order:
Debian
Ubuntu
OpenSUSE
Arch

If you want stability go Debian or Ubuntu. If you want bleeding edge go OpenSUSE or Arch. Ubuntu isn't quite as stable as Debian but the packages are more up to date than Debian. OpenSUSE isn't quite as bleeding edge as Arch but more stable than Arch. If you want balls to the wall bleeding edge go with Arch. The only thing checking the stability of packages for Arch is their automated build system. OpenSUSE has the best installer hands down. I particularly like the installer they use for setting up encryption. With other distros I have to use the terminal to set up partition encryption correctly but the GUI installer for openSUSE lets you have a high degree of control for encryption. openSUSE is bleeding edge especially tumbleweed but it has more testing than Arch. openSUSE Leap 42.2 is slightly more bleeding edge than Ubuntu 16.10

What you're look at is your choices from stable to bleeding edge in this order:
Debian jessie (I would stick with stable for Debian which is the only reason to use it)
Ubuntu LTS
Ubuntu 16.10
openSUSE Leap
openSUSE tumbleweed
Arch

You can't go wrong with any of these. They are all for different purpose so you decide your purpose and pick one that's best for your purpose As a note I've heard good things about CentOS and Fedora but have never used them enough to know them well. So I can't comment on those.

>>59349874
>OpenSUSE
I've never used that.

>>59349874

Debian has more than just hte stable branch. OpenSUSE has a rolling-release "bleeding edge" version.
So much for your opinions. Every time I see someone make those min/max reviews for distributions I h ave to cringe.

>>59349402
>What is this?
just some lvm magic... all my partitions are lvm. it allows me to go back in time and roll-back changes.

>>59349404
>btw is it just me or firefox is even more shitty after last update?
I don't even check FF anymore. I gave up on it last year. Chromium is all I use now.

>>59349411
>The package maintainers are not a bunch of monkeys who don't know what they're doing.
I got fucked with python3.6 upgrade. it broke tons of things for me... including my WM. I now snapshot everything before upgrades. "Fool me once"..

I'm pretty happy with arch maintainers' work. they usually do a good job. but still, I'm weary of shit like this. message was not intuitive.

>>59349419
>glxgear and see that fps you are getting.
>I get 125 fps with my laptop's integrated graphics unit.
I'm at 60fps because that's the refresh rate of my 4K monitor. I don't game so it doesn't matter to me.

>>59349867
https://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Breeze+Serie?content=169316

>>59349867
>Adwaita is slightly different. Mainly the "loading" icon and I don't like Adwaita's.
I hate absolutely everything in that theme. every one of the pointers has something wrong with it.

>>59349874
What about Debian Testing?

>>59349848
I had no idea that XML Internet Defence Force was even a thing. Guess I was wrong.

>Why do you parrot other people's opinions? You're pathetic.
Whatever lets you sleep at night buddy.

I will still continue using openbox. Doesn't change the fact that xml config sucks compared to i3 and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change it.

>>59349909
>Debian has more than just hte stable branch. OpenSUSE has a rolling-release "bleeding edge" version.
And I wrote about those in my post. What do you think openSUSE tumbleweed is? I mentioned the Debian rolling release indirectly but said there's no reason to use it.

>>59349910

>I got fucked with python3.6 upgrade. it broke tons of things for me

First of all, nothing breaks in the official repositories after Python upgrades. Whenever a new version comes out, every Python package is being rebuilt in the repository.

If you weren't an idiot, you'd know that you have to rebuild you Python packages after Python upgrades.

>>59349922

That's too fabulous and distracting.

>>59349942
>First of all, nothing breaks in the official repositories after Python upgrades. Whenever a new version comes out, every Python package is being rebuilt in the repository.
>
>If you weren't an idiot, you'd know that you have to rebuild you Python packages after Python upgrades.
kek. it broke my WM. were you on arch forums during the 3.6 update? just do a search to see the mess.

>>59349971

Which window manager? Not even important. If it depends on it, rebuild the package.
Yes, I "was on the Arch forums" when that version came out. There was nothing special about that version.

>>59349729
Installs and runs perfectly fine here.
What exactly is "broke"?

>>59348962
>srpski
>cirilica
cemu to, anone?

>>59349678
Its k you are ready.

>>59349509
I have gtx 970 on other computer
I don't play games.
Just for opengl/directX development I got 970.
This laptop is for typing when I am away from home.

>>59350090
Heмa paзлoгa дa нe бyдe тaкo

>>59350135

It's easier when you look for help online. You won't accidentally paste your native language output. You don't have to run the tools with LANGUAGE=C or LANG=C to post output.

>>59350135
nekonzistentno je jer je sve ostalo na engleskom i na latinici
nije fino po mom misljenju

>>59349637
why is yaourt bad?

>>59349737
I can't stick to one. They're all so great I just pick one depending on my mood.

>>59350153
You don't need whole text to fix error, just type error and part of output and you will find it.

>>59350170
Кoмaндe cy ми ћилиpичнe (oнe кoјe нaјчeшћe кopиcтим) aкo тo миcлиш
>aпдeјт
>инcтaлиpaј
>oбpиши
>yгacи
итд

>>59350226

Whenever someone posts some logs in a language that's not English on various support requests, I just ignore it.
Why would people help someone so arrogant? I certainly wouldn't.

>>59350196

The question is: why is it good?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers

Personally I wouldn't use any. Install it manually with makepkg and ocassionally check if your software has been updated.

>>59350226
>aпдeјт
jeste da bi ti trebalo vise vremena da iskucas `aжypиpaј`, ali bar bi imalo smisla

>>59350255
I'm using cower to serach and download PKGBUILDS and makepkg to build them
I personally don't reaquire anything more
but I still don't get why all the hate for yaourt
I never used it, so I wouldn know

>>59350196
It enables people to use the AUR without needing some of the most basic understanding about how it works, which may lead to them having problems later without any idea on how to fix them.
And usually those people just added the french repo.

>>59350135
>>59350226
>>59350277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5frLs4qNmk0

>>59350344
I wasn't talking to you anyway

>>59348107
you didn't replace the link to the last thread you fucking idiot

Previous thread: >>59342186

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>>59350391
Who are you?

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>>59350412
*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

>>59350419
a little anime girl

>all these "arch users" afraid to upgrade their system

Arch is but a stepping stone.

The arguments against systemd and why it's bad have been posted over and over, yet systemd shills continuously pop up saying no one has provided any arguments against systemd and that Lennart Poettering's cock is small so it doesn't stretch your asshole or hurt too bad while he's fucking you over with a CIA trojan that runs at PID 1.

The systemd developers are making it harder and harder to not run on systemd. Even if Debian supports not using systemd, the rest of the Linux ecosystem is moving to systemd so it will become increasingly infeasible as time runs on.

By merging in other crucial projects and taking over certain functionality, they are making it more difficult for other init systems to exist. For example, udev is part of systemd now. People are worried that in a little while, udev won’t work without systemd. Kinda hard to sell other init systems that don’t have dynamic device detection.

The concern isn’t that systemd itself isn’t following the UNIX philosophy. What’s troubling is that the systemd team is dragging in other projects or functionality, and aggressively integrating them. When those projects or functions become only available through systemd, it doesn’t matter if you can install other init systems, because they will be trash without those features.

An example, suppose a project ships with systemd timer files to handle some periodic activity. You now need systemd or some shim, or to port those periodic events to cron. Insert any other systemd unit file in this example, and it’s a problem.

Give me one reason to use Arch over Antergos that doesn't involve "Hurr durr derp you have to install Arch at least once to learn all about the *process*, man!" autism

There are 3 main groups of systemd haters, and they all have valid critcisms:

People who don't like the fact that systemd has massive scope creep. Specifically that it tries to reimplement many existing services instead of improving / integrating existing ones. For example user switching, network management, logging, etc.

People who don't like the idea of everything relying on systemd interfaces to work at all. For example gnome started to rely on logind and other services even though it technically didn't need to.

People who don't like the management of the project. Lennart can be a dick to people with different opinions. He also created many interesting projects which were both a bit complex and pushed before they were ready. (like pulseaudio, packagekit) Since they were forced on people via popular distros, pulseaudio became "the thing that's always broken" for a year or so. And since Lennart was the author, he became a person who breaks the system.

>>59350704
Original.

Can everyone speak only English here please?
Thanks for your consideration.

The only people the systemd developers had to convince to get it widely adopted were the distro maintainers and the developers of a few key software projects. The distro maintainers made systemd at least an optional (if not outright default) init system, since it (1) promised to eliminate a series of init-related problems, and (2) other critical pieces of low-level userspace functionality like udev were getting merged into systemd's codebase anyway. In theory, systemd would reduce their maintenance burden, giving them an incentive to encourage their users to adopt it.

Making it an optional or default init system wasn't enough to spur its rapid adoption, however. What helped solidify systemd's hold was a few key developers making their software depend on it to work. For example, you can't run GNOME without systemd these days, and KDE is not far behind. Other previously-unrelated daemons like upower now require systemd to work correctly. So, users who want a working desktop pretty much have to use systemd now, even if they don't have an opinion on it, or even if they want a desktop more than they want to steer clear of it.

This has created a lot of frustration within the user community. There are plenty of users who do not want systemd, but now have to either (1) go without a working desktop to do so, or (2) fork the relevant parts of the ecosystem that depend on systemd and make them so that they don't. This is exacerbated by author of systemd openly advocating that GNOME depend on it (helping to create this dilemma), having a reputation for breaking the Linux sound system (making people wonder if the same will happen to init), having a reputation for not taking criticism well, and increasingly having a reputation of being deceitful about his intentions for systemd's role in the ecosystem.

Systemd's design has also created a lot of frustration with power users and developers. While it is all well and good that every developer should maintain his/her code in the way he/she sees fit, there are two important design decisions in systemd that have questionable technical merit but have non-trivial social and political consequences for the ecosystem. First, the author of systemd has repeatedly stated that systemd will not be portable, and will reject patches from those who would make it work. This effectively locks people into Linux if they need to use software that depends on systemd, even if the software doesn't otherwise require Linux-specific features. Second, the author of systemd has publicly stated that the interfaces between the systemd components will remain unstable and undocumented for the foreseeable future. This makes the creation of alternatives to systemd components difficult, since developers have to first study the large systemd codebase to even figure out how to begin, and will need to ensure their alternatives are compatible with every version of systemd if they are to gain adoption.

>>59350704
>https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309
You won't get any support from real Arch users

Combined, these two design decisions ensure that it will be very costly and time-consuming for developers to implement alternatives, short of rewriting the whole systemd from scratch. Any work they do to address their problems with systemd can be easily undermined by the systemd author (who doesn't particularly care for alternatives). What is particularly demoralizing about this situation is that there isn't a clear technical reason why systemd had to be designed this way--it could have been written in a portable fashion (or, people would step up and make it portable if the author would accept their work), and its components could have been designed to have stable internal interfaces, so replacing parts of systemd piecemeal would be feasible. The only perceived gains from these design decisions is that the systemd author can artificially make it too costly to compete against it, leading to frustration and controversy.

Very real disadvantages of systemd:

1. systemd is tied to a specific kernel and a specific libc and specific device manager and specific journaling daemon, basically, having systemd means you're locked in to a whole lot of other things.
2. systemd is renowned for locking up during startup and boot when you have network filesystems.
3. systemd hardcodes quite a lot of the booting and shutdown process in C which other systems place in easily editable scripts.
4. systemd in practice requires quite a lot of things: ACLs, PAM, dbus, polkit, these are not hard requirements but without this the above advantages are lost so all distributions enable them at compile time.
5. logind starting to do retarded shit like user sessions and having retarded power management, in theory you can disable logind, but no distribution again does this.
6. systemd is very monolithic and comes in one configuration compared to being able to piece your system together yourself.

7. systemd appropriates the cgroup tree and takes control of it and completely messes with any other user of the cgroup tree and really wants them all to go through systemd, systemd was wirtten basically on the assumption that nothing but systemd would be using cgroups and they even tried to lobby to make cgroups a private prioperty of systemd in the kernel but that went no-where.

8. systemd's usage of cgroups for process tracking is a fundamentally broken concept, cgroups were never meant for this and it's a good way to fuck resource usage up.

9. systemd has a hard dependency on glibc for really no good reason.

10. systemd relies on DBus for IPC, as the name 'Desktop bus' implies DBus was never written with this in mind and it shows. DBus was written to facilitate IPC within a single desktop session, not as a transport during early boot. This is why systemd wanted to push kdbus heavily beause kdbus solved some of the problems inherent to DBus being used as IPC during early boot.

11. systemd's security and general code quality practices are less than stellar, a lot of security bugs pop up in systemd due to its insistence of putting quite a bit of code in pid1 and quickly adding new features and quickly changing things.

13. systemd creates dependencies and is a dependency of things for political reasons in order to encourage people to pick these things. This is not conjecture, Lennart has admitted multiple times that he creates dependencies to 'gently push' everyone to the same configuration

14. systemd is monolithic for its own sake. It's basically product tying to encourage people to pick an all-or-none deal to again gently push towards this consistency.

15. Lennart Poettering, the face of systemd and its lead dev is the biggest primadonna FOSS has ever known who continues to shift blame and demand that entire world adapt to his designs.

>>59350705
And people who don't know Jack, but have heard other people talk shit about Systemd, so they parrot what other people say.
All of those people are annoying, but these last are the most annoying.
If you don't like Systemd (or any other software, for that matter), then don't fucking use it, and shut the fuck up. And if you want to talk shit, then show us what you got. Create your own software, and we'll see how good it is.

>>59350743
You say that like it's a bad thing that people with turbo autism avoid you

>>59350787
You have even more autism than them because you choose to use a DIY distro without actually Doing It Yourself.
Just install Ubuntu and fuck off.

>>59350900
Friendly, my autism friend.

>>59350962
I'm sorry I told you to fuck off. You can stay if you want.

>>59350900
>I have autism because I want my operating system to work after installing it
Interesting definition, but sure. Show me a Ubuntu based distro that's rolling release and I'll use it, because right now I'm using KDE Neon.

>>59350726
>having a reputation for breaking the Linux sound system
You mean Pulseaudio? No, that kinda fixed it instead of breaking it. Worked fine from almost the start on most distros.

>>59351031
No, friend. You have autism because you want a distro designed specifically to not work out of the box, to work out of the box.

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What are some kεωl irssi scripts?

>>59351165
There is no distro that is desigend to not work out of the box. There are just distros that try to automate more or less of making it work.

>>59351165
>Designed to not work out of the box
That's not how it works, autismo

>>59351311
Designed to work after some tweaking. Unless you call a minimal bash prompt with GNU coreutils and a few other programs a working OS.

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Stop using distro.

>>59350787

Yeah, the same people who did all the work assembling it together and keeping it together are avoiding you. Good luck solving your problems or doing anything without those people. Idiot.

>>59351336
If that currently runs on a stack with a kernel init etc., that IS a working OS.

Obviously I want a package manager at that point too, because handling the user space programs will be a pain otherwise.

>>59351372
So... What are we arguing about again?

>>59351401
That real distros work (=give you an OS to work with) out of the box.

What are some good linux related youtube channels?

>>59351440
Arch works pretty much out of the box. When you follow the installation guide, then all you have to do is install a DE and you have a working OS;
but some other distros do that last step for you.

>>59351536
Interesting question. Bump.

>>59351536
>youtube channels
>good
choose 1 and only 1

>>59351536
Level 1 tech has a Youtube channel. Not a lot of videos but supposed to be more

Jupiter Broadcasting is okay. Videos a bit too long for my attention span

>>59351573
Like it or not, YouTube is the biggest video hosting site out there. It may use non-free JavaScript, but there's always youtube-dl if you don't like that.

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/g/, how to print whole column with spaces in awk?
Pic related

>>59351599
That's not the point, using videos as a source of information is just simply inferior.

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LinuxSpatry

>>59351536
spatry's cup of cringe

>>59351609
Try using sed:

sed 's/^\( *[^\t ]\+[\t ]\+\)[^\t]\+\(.*\)$/\1_column_ends_here_/g'

But that only gets the 1st column.

“KEK” is a palindrome

>>59351536
this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2-vc5ouiCE&t=358s

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Would there have been a better way to do this?
I wanted to find all audio-only files (ogg ones) because I know that those are accompanied with video files I uploaded to YouTube. I don't want to save them to my hard disk anymore for space reasons.
So I got a list of all the audio files, and then found any file that matched the name without the file extension, and then deleted all those files.

pic related are the two commands i ran

can anyone suggest a better way?

>>59352472
It would be easier to just

for name in *ogg; do rm $name; done

>>59352530
rm *.ogg

>>59352548
yea, but I was assuming he wanted to do more actions on each element, why else would he do the other thing?

>>59352562
Good question, though after reading it again, he wants to remove files with the same name but a different extension as well.

>>59352530
this doesn't quite work, however with a little modification I can make it work. 1 sec.
KK:

for name in *ogg; do rm ${name%.*}*; done

This will remove all files that have the same names as files that are vorbis

>>59351627
>ex meth addict
problem?

>>59352603
Yes that's what I wanted. I took
>>59352530
's suggestion and turned it into
>>59352670
which I think would work. I say would cuz i already got the job done with inferior
>>59352472

Thanks all of you!

>>59351704
Thanks. It turned out more complicated than I expected.

awk '(!($2="")&&!($3="")&&!($4="")) {print}'

This command does what I want, but I don't know how to separate columns with tabs

>>59350090
I zasluzuje da mu ne radi. Jos nigde nisam video da je bilo koji OS ili program preveden na srpski tako da prevod ima smilsla. Lakse je snaci se kad je sve na engleskom jer je kontekst teksta cesto potpuno obrnut na srpskom.

>>59352990
taek

>>59352670
Small suggestion. Don't use rm especially in a script that globs. Use something like trash-cli

>>59352990

True.
I contributed a few translations and it's a clusterfuck. What messed with me the most was that there's no central repository of words you're supposed to use, to keep it all consistent. Maybe there is, but you have to spend time in IRC channels or wherever those people hang out.

Are the open source drivers for the Radeon rx460 any good yet?

Whats the best ebook (pdf AND epub) reader for GNU/Linux? Lightweight preferred.

>>59353534
fbreader

>>59353534
some anon posted this bash function a couple of threads ago

epub() { unzip -p "$1" | strings | w3m -cols $COLUMNS -dump -T text/html | less; }

>have nouveau driver as module
>system freezes whenever possible
>build nouveau driver into kernel
>no more freezing
oh boy! this is too much freedom!

>>59353534
also, for pdfs you can use this function

pdf() { pdftotext -layout "$1" - | less -r }

or lesspipe like this

lesspipe.sh TLCL-16.07.pdf | less

>>59353682
That was me. Improved both a little bit, strings and less isn't needed anymore and the result looks better.

epub() { unzip -caa "$1" '*html' | w3m -T text/html; }

pdf() { pdftotext -nopgbrk "$1" - | w3m; }

>>59353823
nice

>>59351359
Oh no, if only there was some kind of Wiki that all those turbo autists write down everything they know so you don't have to interact with them...

>>59353823
btw, if you want to make w3m quit with q (like less), run w3m with -o confirm_qq=0

>>59353936
Already aliased w3m with this flag. Thanks anyway!

>>59353534
doesn't zathura support pdf and epub?
alternativly use mupdf

>>59353987
it does

>>59353823
zathura + zathura-pdf-mupdf

>>59354252
>zathura + zathura-pdf-mupdf
meant for >>59353534

>>59348672
this

add this instead https://ssd.eff.org/en

>>59353257
It's hopeless in my opinion. It's down to the nature of the language. The syntaxes (spoken language syntaxes I mean) are different. Dependency just can't be translated to Serbian just as "zavisnost", you need to be specific as to 'dependency to what' in order for it to make sense in Serbian.

>>59354321
>LGBTQ Youth?
>Tips and tools to help you more safely access LGBTQ resources, navigate social networks, >and avoid snoopers.

I'm curious about pentesting and was going to install ParrotSec on my laptop last night, but Rufus wouldn't allow me to make a bootable flash drive with the GPT partition scheme enabled. I intended to dual-boot with Windows 10. Their website says the distro is UEFI compatible, but I'm assuming they were referring to CSM, which iirc doesn't play nice when you attempt to dual-boot.

Is there something I can do to solve this besides changing my partition scheme to MBR? I'd rather not go through the hassle of doing the conversion.

>>59354634
Install Kali, retard.

>>59354703
I could do that, or I can stick with my decision and either find out how to solve the actual problem or find out why it can't be reasonably solved.

Just because I'm installing a pentesting distro doesn't mean I need to adopt the mindset of a skid.

>>59354769
Let me rephrase it: Install a professional pentesting distro instead, retard.

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>>59348195
>also 2nd for Arch GNU/Linux is best GNU/Linux

>>59354802
whats wrong with parrot

>>59354769
I had problems installing any distro in dual boot with w10. Though any=Xubuntu and Opensuse. I ditched W10 in the end, too much trouble for no benefit.

>>59354634
Install Pentoo

>>59354806
Nice image, faggot.

Why the fuck is Ubuntu still on a strict release schedule? Why don't they release a rolling version of it?

I really like Unity, but holy shit, it's annoying to have to wait for a new version and not being able to use updated packages that fix bugs, or improve performance.

>>59354862
Install Debian Sid, that's where Ubuntu is ripping off.

>>59354862
Because Canonical is trying to sell support, and selling support for rolling release software is hard.

>>59354802
I don't care about how professional it is, I care about using the tools it comes with. I'm interested in playing around with some of the anti-forensic tools that Parrot comes bundled with and the Pandora's box feature, as well as the RAM-only browser profile. I've played with Kali in a VM before and I'd like to try something different with some new tools that I find interesting.

None of what we've discussed is relevant anyway because I'm here to learn about GPT, UEFI, dual-booting, etc. I don't really care about the "other pentesting distros vs. Kali issue" at the moment. I like to distro hop and will try various distros anyway, but which distro I should be using is not at all my primary concern right now.

>>59354823
Yeah, I had some strange problems dual-booting Xubuntu and W10 on a different system around a year ago. It seems to be pretty finicky for whatever reason.

>>59348107
Is Trisquel good or a meme?

>>59355078
RMS preferred distro.

>>59355078
Couldn't find trisquel at knowyourmeme.com, so I guess it's legit.

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>>59355078
Its breddy gud

>>59355101
nice

>>59355113
Thanks

idesk sucks

what to use

>>59354862
Because rolling release is hobbyist in nature and Canonical tries to cater to businesses.

How would you explain to a clueless business owner that xorg.conf was supposed to be broken by an update?

>>59355131
udesk

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Does anyone have the full version of pic related?

I finally successfully moved my old hard drive into a beater chinkpad for use as a server, and have ssh set up to communicate with said server, but now do I jimmy around the modest 300GB of files on it in order to have rtorrent seed them? I even have rtorrent's config file, the watch directories, and the torrents inside them intact in my old user home directory. Do I want to create a new user with the same name in order to start rtorrent just as it was, or is there a better way of doing it?

Arch is nothing but a stepping stone.

>>59355156
It's in the Install Gentoo wiki article for Arch. There are two of them there, but idk if that's all there is.

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Anyone know off hand if pcie based solid state drives (500GB 960 Evo in this instance) work out of the box in Linux? I'm mainly going to be utilizing the new drive in Windows, but curious to know if Linux even supports this stuff.

>>59355202
But a stepping stone to what?

>>59352285

Is Antergos an Arch installer, or is it just like Manjaro?

I liked Manjaro, but I rather have something closer to Arch.

Also, what's the current status of Ubuntu? Are the newest versions as good or closer as 14.04?

>>59355242
NEETdom

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>>59355253
source magic

>>59354814
ParrotSec is best to deploy on attack boxes since many VPS providers won't let you use custom images. It's not as simple to do with Kali. With Parrotsec the only thing you need is a Debian base system and you can deploy Parrotsec on it with a simple script.

It doesn't matter which one you use for pentesting. They both have the same tools. ParrotSec for VPS and Kali for VM.

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>Vanilla Firefox
>Firefox ESR
>Firefox β (Βeta)
>Firefox Nightly
>Firefox Developer Edition

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/channel/desktop/

What is the least bloated and best Firefox version?

>>59355274
meant for >>59355242
>>59355253
and yes, Antergos is nothing more than an Arch installer
install Source Mage GNU/Linux if you want to be cool though

>>59355281
GNU icecat is the best browser.

I'm installing arch and I just installed grub using
# grub-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sdx and # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg. when I boot into grub I get a bunch of pixelated artifacts that look like braille. It's a ThinkPad x301. Any ideas to fix?

>>59355242
absolute memetic powers

>>59355311
What is the second best then?
(serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything,)

>>59355326
Ditch arch. Its a non-free meme OS. Install a FSF and stallman approved distro.

For the people here who claim to not use Arch or one of its deriviates; what distro do you use?

>>59355326
you fucked up something
maybe try antergos first?

>>59355374
Ubuntu

>>59355374
I use Trisquel. Its what Stallman uses.

>>59355374
Arch

>>59355374
Source Mage GNU/Linux

Should I go with Manjaro or straight Arch? Can Manjaro use i3?

We need a new messiah of free software, rms is old

>>59355420
go straight arch

>>59355411
>>59355399
Why lie?

>>59355420
There is a so-called community edition of Manjaro that has i3 preinstalled.

>>59355443
What do you mean?

>>59355422
rms is immortal
when he "dies" he will ascend and watch over us all from GNU/heaven

>>59355420
Everything can run everything. Install Ubuntu with the minimal iso or Debian and just don't pick a desktop when tasksel asks you to and you end up with the same result.

>>59355458
If you are talking about the "Why lie?" part, I mean that there are not people here unironically using Source Mage GNU/Linux or Trisquel.

If you're talking about the other part, see here:
https://manjaro.org/community-editions/

what do I do?

jwe0019i-u The program was terminated abnormally with signal number SIGSEGV.

Error occurs at xxwintextsize_
Called from or near line 310 of xxgxwin_
Called from or near line 15 of xxgdrv_
Called from or near line 32 of xxsizg_
Called from or near line 57 of igrarea_
Called from or near line 33 of xxres1_
Called from or near line 20 of xxresn_
Called from or near line 81 of iscreenmoden_
Called from or near line 112 of xxgscr_
Called from or near line 93 of igrinit_
Called from or near line 324 of idisplay_
Called from or near line 631 of iscreenopen_
Called from or near line 298 of realmain1_
Called from or near line 133 of MAIN__
error summary (Fortran)
error number error level error count
jwe0019i u 1
total error count = 1

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I just got a new (refurbished) laptop, an Asus One 14, which seems to run Linux pretty well.

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>>59355482
I'm not kidding.

>>59355515
Kudos to you for standing up to non-free software!

But if you really wanted to run non-free software, you could, couldn'tyou? This is just a GNU/Linux distro afterall..
Not being able to get it from the package manager doesn't mean not being able to use it at all.

>>59355511
Hi Patrick.

>>59355577
Hi dipshit.

>>59355511
>>59355577
>>59355588
All these dubs can't be left unchecked.

>>59355511
GNU/Linux*

>>59355515

fs2_open: ['custom:fs2_open']
ida-pro-6.4: []
fs2_open-data: ['custom:goodoldgames']
flashplugin: ['custom:non-free']
cantarell-fonts: ['custom:SIL']
libglvnd: ['custom:BSD-like']
ca-certificates-cacert: ['custom:RDL']
ttf-google-fonts: ['various']
noto-fonts: ['custom:SIL']

Non-free packages: 9

However, there are 214 ambiguously licensed packages that vrms cannot certify.

Arch is *only* a stepping stone towards a greater good.

>>59355654
arch is a memw

>>59355667
you're a memw

>>59355643
Mein gott man. You are not free.

>>59355676
REKT!

>>59355690
it's what I do

where can I find pre-made sexy looking rxvt-unicode conf files?

>>59355643
>

ttf-google-fonts

>inb4 discovered to have spyware

>>59355702
here you go fampai

!------------------------------------------------------------------------------
! c o l o r -  s e t t i n g s

*foreground:              #babdb6

*color0:                  #2e3436
*color1:                  #cc0000
*color2:                  #4e9a06
*color3:                  #c4a000
*color4:                  #3465a4
*color5:                  #75507b
*color6:                  #06989a
*color7:                  #d3d7cf
*color8:                  #555753
*color9:                  #ef2929
*color10:                 #8ae234
*color11:                 #fce94f
*color12:                 #729fcf
*color13:                 #ad7fa8
*color14:                 #34e2e2
*color15:                 #eeeeec

!------------------------------------------------------------------------------
! u r x v t

URxvt*geometry:         100x25
URxvt*font:            xft:xos4 terminus:size=10
URxvt*urlLauncher:         iceweasel
URxvt*scrollBar:        false
URxvt*scrollBar_right:        true
URxvt*scrollColor:        #000000
URxvt*.depth: 32
URxvt*.background: [100]#000000
URxvt.iso14755: false
URxvt.iso14755_52: false

>>59355702
dotshare, shithub

>>59355702
GitHub. Search for dotfiles.

>>59355762
>

URxvt*urlLauncher:

Set it to xdg-open, then it will use whatever your standard browser is.

Ubuntu LTS is a stepping stone.

What is the best anti-systemd distro?
Void?
Alpine?
Devuan?

>>59355806
thanks, will do

>>59355821
Arch Linux

>>59355821
Gentoo. Not even kidding.

The Linux kernel is going to get backdoors by law to stop pedos and there is nothing you cucks can do about it.

>>59355821
>alpine
lmao

>>59355821
Source Mage, Gentoo, Funtoo

>>59355843
>is going to
ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ

>>59355821
Out of the three, Devuan. But Gentoo would be the better solution. Then again, avoiding systemd gives you 0 benefits except +1 level of autism.

>>59355483
pls respond

>>59355892
What program?

>>59355867
REKT as they say

>>59355926
just what I do

>>59355867
>Source Mage
what does it even use?

>>59355843
see >>59355867
and then see >>59355926

>>59355943
it has it's own init scripts system
https://sourcemage.org/Init

>>59355867
>>59355836
How is Libressl support on Gentoo now? It wasn't as seamless as Void last I checked.

>>59355917
its a statistical software program made by a professor at my uni. there is essetially 0% chance that you've heard of it. am i sol then?

>>59355987
neat, I'll try source mage when I find some time

>>59356027
Not exactly, do you have the source? If you could get the debugging symbols you could run it in valgraind or gdb and see where it crashes?

Friend of mine finally decides its time to ditch winblows10.
Asks me for help.
Which beginner distro do you suggest between Ubuntu MATE and Xubuntu? I was also thinking about Fedora.
Anyway he only needs M$ office. How is Office 2013 on Wine?

>>59356099
A friend of mine would suggest to install gentoo.

>>59356099
both

>>59356099
>>59356120
Just asked my friend he said the same thing

>>59356099
mint

>>59356242
>mint
so basically ubuntu painted green and with security removed?

>>59356099
Does he not have computers at work?

>>59356279
He doesn't werks yet, still in college.
Is MATE developement more active than XFCE's?

And seriously how is Office through Wine?

>>59356303
Office 2010 works 100%, as does 2007 and everything earlier. 2013 became functional a few months ago and iirc has a few bugs but mostly works.

>>59356260
implying there is any sort of security in ubuntu

awooo~ ---> >>59356379

>>59356393
>apparmour
>sane packaging
>security updates

(nautilus:29289): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(nautilus:29289): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: <broken file>:1:0: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/libgd/tagged-entry/default.css' does not exist

** (nautilus:29289): CRITICAL **: Another desktop manager in use; desktop window won't be created


wat do?

>>59355843
I can read the kernel source and remove that shit myself.
Too bad you Wangblows can't do the same.

>>59356303
Does the college not have a library with computers? Or is it the one of those places that actually make an effort to protect their students from nonfree software? In which case why haven't you told him to install gentoo?

ELI5: Why was/is systemd so controversial

>>59357375
fud campaigns are nothing new.

>>59357375
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd