/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>58879004
>putting the cooler baseplate on the tabletop
my 'tism

why does my house smell like rotten eggs every time i use the oven?

>>58879026
I don't know anon, try lighting some scented candles to get rid of the smell :^)

>>58879016
>>58879004
>putting the CPU pads down on the table top
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>58879004
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build.
I have a WD Caviar Black HDD. It runs a little loud, but loads very quickly, like a medium end SSD. Only problem is the first five minutes of startup, but my LED's keep me patient.

Are hybrid drives any better than regular HDDs? Found a 1TB for 80 bucks, it's always double that for SSDs...

Can some one recommend me a decent 700-800 watt psu? My current 600w isn't going to be enough when I upgrade my system. (I have 2 ssd(s), 4 hard drives, and will purchase a 1070 soon)

Rate my parts. (used mainly for digital art and gaymen - not overclocking)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kW4Ljc

feel free to post any changes you feel it needs but I want that 1070

For those of you who are currently building, how are your builds coming along?

I've got the case, GPU, RAM, and a few other things but I'm waiting about a week before I purchase my motherboard/CPU/cooler/etc.

>>58879101
SeaSonic and the vendors that buy from them are usually all good choices

I'm running a R9 270X. What's a good upgrade for playing newer games on high-ultra settings, but FHD only? Not planning to go 4k anytime soon.

>>58879109
I'm always building.

I'm going to buy another case fan next week and I'm saving up for another HDD.

>>58879101
The EVGA 750GQ comes in at a good price and it's from a top OEM (FSP). I have the 650W model. Nice and quiet and feels like quality.

>>58879101
EVGA G2's

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>>58879144

>>58879106
Looks pretty fucking good

>>58879123

Which HDD are you going to get?

>>58879106
Budget? And country?

what are the most silent, performant (cooling wise) and beautiful cases for under 150$?

Got my eye on the define S for silent and performant but it's not exactly pretty.

>>58879004

that ram is fucking huge

>>58879148
>>58879144
>>58879116
Thank you kind Anony(s).

>>58879165
tried to keep them under $1500 straya doleridoos

>>58879186
I agree

>>58879162
Flip flopping between a WD Red and an HGST drive. I want something quiet, but I also want reliability. Either way, it'll be a 4-6TB multi-platter drive.

Will an rx 470 and i5 3570 run arma 3 ultra smooth?

>>58879004
>H110/B150 (need BIOS update BEFORE installing CPU

What does this mean?
First time builder here. BIOS setup seems the most scary part to me. Ive been binge watching "How to build PC" videos and they rarely cover BIOS setup.
Am I just over reacting? Or is it a crucial part building that I should spend time studying?

>>58879228
>Will ---insert any parts list--- run arma 3 ultra smooth?
no

We're all waiting for ryzen right? Nobody's buying a build in that price range right now hopefully

>>58879237
bios usually sets itself up unless your mobo is 15 yrs old or something
if you install an unsupported CPU the system will boot but then act stupid and crash so u gotta update your bios beforehand

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>>58879173
Case sound dampening is kind of a meme. Quiet components make more of a difference.

That said, the US market doesn't have much in the way of "premium" cases that look clean and beautiful. There's Lian Li, but they lack features.

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>tfw video game console assembly general thread

>buy a case that is just a black box because i dont want flashy gaymur shit
>ends up being of shit build quality
why are all the good cases targeted to gaymers?

>>58879288
>why are all the good cases targeted to gaymers?
Define "good".

>>58879294
screw holes lining up for instance

>>58879268
Alright thanks. So its just a compatibility issue. I'll keep that in mind when shopping - and also do more research.

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>>58879288
Join the club.

dont flashy lights on gear add to the heat and power drain (albeit a small but still..)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPzVCy
Going for a "White-Out" theme. budget is where it's at. It's for gaming, and I live in USA. Gaming as in AAA Games at 1440p/144Hz. Any optimizations?

>>58879288

because they're the ones buying the motherboards designed to be overclocked, the 1080s in SLI, the $150 RGB keyboards, the flashy cases, etc. It's not really a terrible thing because the technology evolves more rapidly with the increase in demand, but I do agree that the flashy lifestyle is a big tasteless.

That being said, as someone who doesn't want RGB keyboards or a ton of LED fans or anything, I don't think there is anything wrong with subtle ambient case lighting just to highlight the pieces you have. I mean shit, there's like $3,000 invested in some of these cases.

>>58879004
I'm getting back ~$2000 on my tax return this year and I'm finally going to begin building my gaymen PC that I've been putting off for literally 3 years now.

Guess I'll be lurking these threads, though my plan was to just go by the Logical Increments guide.

>>58879317
yes, but very small. if your whole system was lit like a Christmas tree you might be using 10 watts.

>>58879317
Anything electric does

>>58879333
Cooler comes with it's own thermal paste

>>58879333

You can scale down the case. a full tower is to hold multiple graphics cards and a ton of hard drives. Phanteks builds some attractive mid-ATX and even ITX cases if that's something you're into.

>fuckhuge GTX 1080 doesn't come with a prop to prevent GPU sag
Nice '''''premium''''' product.

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>>58879333
Noctua includes thermal paste already and it's top-tier as well, with enough for a ton of applications.
>>58879334
There's a real lack of minimal cases with premium build quality that also have conveniences like dust filters. You have to go boutique for that kind of shit.

If you don't have thunderbolt 3, have VGA on your motherboard, don't have wifi or Bluetooth built into your mobo or with a PCIE card, use anything besides 4 pin fan headers or can't control your fans with software, you may as well throw your shit in the trash.

I don't understand why this hobby is so held back by holding onto proprietary/traditional shiz. Fuck your proprietary BIOS, fuck your random manufacturer motherboard "features", fuck your proprietary drivers.

>>58879408
so Ryzen is trash? it won't have TB3

>>58879397

what about fractal design? or do they not have good build quality.

I just ordered a 1070 and a 7700k

Will a 750watt corsair be enough?

>>58879339
Logical Increments is good.
But also try this:

https://choosemypc.net/


It helps to give first time builders are build to work around.
Then you can add/change things until youre happy.

>>58879420
IMO yes. HDMI needs to die by the way, forgot to mention that.

I appreciate the fact we can "build" these things but there just aren't any standards whatsoever.

>>58879333
First of all, get evga 600b. Its $40 cheaper. No one gives a shit if 80+ gold, its 80+ bronze. Secondly, if you can cut down your pircies a bit and get a smaller drive, you could get a m.2 drive. Would recommend. Lastly, pretty sure your cooler already comes with a compound.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqZZr7
(I have already have a 1TB SSD)

Is the Strafe just a meme keyboard? If it is, what's a better, quiet mechanical keyboard?

>>58879430
Fractal design is top tier for build quality, the r5 has been used by almost every tech reviewer as a test case at some point

Theyre not chosen that often due to cost for the simple they are. They're basically just metal boxes and people want more style for their money.

>>58879435
A bit overkill - but maybe youre future-proofing for a more powerful build later on?

>>58879437
Thanks yo. I'm not a noob when it comes to HW, I generally know what's what, I just need to know what the current hot items are right now for reliability and performance.

I'll be sure to cross compare all these things though.

>>58879466
What do you mean more powerful? According to the hierarchies, the 1070 is like the 3rd best card available and the 7700k is the best consumer chip from this generation

Maybe a better question is what kind of specs would someone need for a 1000+ watt power supply?

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>>58879408
>I don't understand why this hobby is so held back by holding onto proprietary/traditional shiz
You can look at the guitar hobby for that.
>>58879439
>computer parts
>no standards
>>58879430
I own an R5 and a Node 304. The 304 has a nice aluminum front panel facade, but the rest is all plastic and thin-ish steel. R5 had a disappointing looking and feeling front panel. Same thin-ish steel as well. Plastic top too left me wanting something more. That's not to say both aren't solidly built, I'm just saying that I want something more, especially when we're getting laptop chassis made fully out of aluminum and carbon fiber.

>>58879408
>>58879439
I'd hope intel would make some kind of PCIe TB3 add-in card, but I'm not holding my breath.
I don't use WiFi or Bluetooth on my desktop
5 pin fan headers are a thing now with RGB though right?

>>58879457
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZzVCy
Got you a cheaper psu. Pretty sur eyou dont need the extra 50 watts. Also what is your budget?

>>58879506
4 way SLI? I dont know

>>58879408
>dont have wifi or Bluetooth built in
This cunt relies on wireless. What a fucking normie

>>58879457
case is a bit large for the build, what inclines you to get a full tower?

>>58879435

it would be more than enough. in case you ever want to go SLI you'll have enough juice.

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>>58879004
AHHHHHHH FUCK

The H100i v2 stock fans even at their lowest RPM configuration have this base sound you can always hear

I need to figure out replacement fans. Would corsair maglev fans be any more quiet at their lowest speeds? I don't want to do poo fans because this is a glass meme (don't do this) and you have to pay attention to aesthetics of parts.

>>58879273
so sound dampening foam isn't so silent? Should I be looking mainly for spaces to fit larger, quieter fans in there?

I'd go with tempered glass but I'm afraid it wont be as silent a the Define S

>>58879186
look to be about as big as a 8400gs or old firepro lol
>>58879101
google psu tier list. buy tier 1-2. I have SS>>58879116
>>58879237
>>H110/B150 (need BIOS update BEFORE installing CPU
You will need a skylake cpu or a shop with spl programmer to update bios, you cant post with a kaby. just get a 200 series board if you're going 7th gen for ddr4 2400 support.

missing a pci slot cover after selling soundcard in used system.

screen covers or solid
>mah 'tism

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d3Nbd6
>paying for OS
>optical drives

I'm curious if you guys find any compatibility issues etc... I think it'll be my new build over this prebuilt I've been eyeballing. Similar prices, too.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230180

>>58873247
I'll look into it, thanks.
But how is the AMD software compared to Nvidia? Are they on the same level? And a few years ago, using an AMD GPU with an Intel CPU could lead to performance drops, is it better now?

>>58879869
All software is shit, it's all personal preference at this point.

what advantages does an SSD stand to get me over a hard disk? is it really just faster boot times or are there other reasons to get one?

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>>58879633
Try finding some Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15.
Noctua fans the PWM F12 are good for static pressure too there's also some other low-price fan that is way better than the price make it to be but I can't remember if it was Aerocool or some other maker.

Look around, but make sure it's having enough static pressure since the FPI on the Corsair H series radiators is high, meaning it needs a strong fan to push air through, not a fan that have lots of CFM.

After typing this out I got some hints that NoiseBlocker Eloop B12-2 are good.

Just google "Best radiator fans" and you'll find something.

>>58880125
think about any time something has to load from the boot disk.
opening the start menu, starting a program, loading a game level. all that is faster. once you get used to it, mechanical drives feel really slow.

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Hey /g/, just put together a build. Is this looking good? What should I add/change? My budget is 950$.

>>58880170
try to find a 6GB 1060, a hard drive for bulk storage would be nice too. other than that I can't fault this

>>58879663
Just look for a nice case with closed sides.

>>58880183
Anything in particular when it comes to the hard drive for bulk storage?

>>58879729
why won't you cia niggers help me?

most difficult decision of my life. fuckin stressed. I should just part it out and build new.

>>58880205
7200rpm, 1TB or more, SATA 6gb. I like the ones with a big cache

Guys is the windows 10 Enterprise ltsb preactivated is good for my gaming and surfing? Or is that just a memes? This is due to my build which is kaby Lake as the stores in my place only sold kaby Lake chips.
Advice pls

>>58880170
Get the GQ 650w instead for $72ish. Almost the same quality, cheaper, more wattage for possible future expansion.
Get two sticks of ram. Your mobo has 4 slots. Dual channel makes a difference in a fair few games (like Witcher).
Your machine is going to be ugly as sin with stock heatsink and green bare ram/ssd, so I advise against a case with a window.
Get a 6gb 1060 or a 4gb Rx 480. The performance is within single digit% in almost all games.
Motherboard seems really expensive. Iirc that used to sell for $120. It's also a "z" series board meant for overclocking. Get a cheaper one or get a cpu with a "k" on the end (6600k, 7600k)
If Kabylake price is similar, get the i5 7500 instead. A b250 or h270 board.

>>58880271
W7 werks on kaby lake if you put effort into installing it
2 b honest though its too much of a pain so ill prob switch to loonix sometime this year

>>58880271
In order to keep insubordinate employees in check, Microsoft has heavily throttled game performance on Windows 10 Enterprise.

>>58880298
Really? Fuck me then
So what's the alternative?
Will I be arrested to misproper use of windows
>>58880291
Really?

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>>58880354
yeah

Speccy says my mb is 118C. CPU and GPU are fine.

There is no heat at all coming from inside the pc. It's all brand new.

Board is an asus z170p. I5 6600k, gtx 1070.

I am still running win 7 on it. Is speccy just wrong?

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>>58880630
Since you have an Intel, use RealTemp 3.70
Much better and more accurate since it have temp settings to show you the real temp values.

Not only that but it also has settings to show you GPU temps as well.
The reason I use it is because it also have a built in temp warning system (not that I ever need it with my temps) but it also records min and max temps at their respective time so you get the REAL temps huh huh.
I've made it so the Nvidia temps are green and Intel ones are blue that way I know exactly which is which without having to open the program.

If you want it to autostart on Windows 10 I can give you hte schedule script as well since Win10 and it's UAC ruins proper functionality.

>>58880630
Oh

I checked the temps while I was downloading updates for Windows and other things. Nothing else running. Tried checking the bios but i could only see the cpu temp but I can check again

>>58879016
You're doing in wrong if you remove the protective sticker from the bottom of the cooler at any time that isn't immediately before putting it on.

>>58880630
It's a common issue with asus motherboards, if you boot back up in bios the motherboard temp should be fine.

>>58880680
This.
Also the CPU is sitting firmly in a socket.
Even if it didn't it's not like the PGA pins on the AMD so no harm done by putting it on the table.
The only things you need to be vary of are the chips on the underside.

>>58880663
I can try that. I'm 90% sure I was getting a wrong reading. Because all fans were working, no warmth coming from any component. Didn't touch anything but I'm sure I would feel heat if the temp was 118

>>58879004
How do I build a Mac? Is it possible? Or does it have to be a PC if you build it yourself? Always wanted a custom built Mac.

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after finally receiving the screws I needed to mount the fucking H60 rad to the case, my dark-like-my-soul MITX build is finally complete

>>58880722
Look up hackintosh

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>>58880733
my old PC before I ruined it by driving with it through central NSW. it was good while it lasted.

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Rate me. First time desktop builder. Sick of using laptop for work/home stuff (email, spreadsheets, word-processing, movie streaming). Also want to be able to play some video gaymes with my NEET friends. Want to stay below $500 while having the ability to upgrade and fool around if I get into it. What would you change? Inb4 SSD; taking a 250GB from an extra laptop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3v9Fd

>>58880743
howd it get ruined

>>58880768
potholes. lots and lots of potholes.

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>>58880759
I understand wanting it to be upgradeable but thats full retard mode. Try again

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Give it to me straight, guys, how bad is the average high end IPS monitor for Backlight Bleed? is it really true, that people are returning their pg279q's and 271hu's multiple times before they get a tolerable panel, or are people just whining?

seems like no matter what brand or paneltype you pick, someones always gonna cry that it literally killed their parents, yet everyone seems to agree 1440p/144hz+ is where its at...help.

>>58880743
i like the pale blue aesthetic

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LsgM6X
What needs changing?

>>58880790
Looks fine to me, someones probably going to complain you're using seagate.

>>58880787
I made sure to take it on a cloudy afternoon so the lighting would compliment the unpainted steel. since my new case is an SG13, the most flattering part my build is the outside, but it feels redundant to post any images of it.

>>58880803
Whats wrong with seagate?

>>58880831
they had a bad batch of 3TB drives hit the market a few years ago, started a "Seagate a shit" meme

>>58880605
Mah nigga
Nice, so can I use ltsb or will it fucked my shits up? Do you think I should do it?
So you encounter any problem so far?

>>58880834
Well thankfully i got the 2tb hdd not the 3tb so its practically meme proof lol. Thanks for the feedback anon

So I have a 2gb gtx770 and its fans are about to completely shit the bed, because the bearings are all worn out. The question is, should I buy an arctic accelero xtreme cooler or just straight up a new card? It's just that I don't particularly feel like shelling out 200$ for a new card, since my current one is good enough for me at the moment, but I'm also kinda afraid of fucking up while mounting the cooler

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>>58880839
there's one minor issue but its a HUGE fuck around to fix it
>W7 doesnt recognise the new usb 3 chipsets so usb installers wont work
>so i boot a loonix live usb, clone my W7 installer usb to an onboard sata drive and use that as my install medium
>but then windows installs the boot sector to THAT drive and everything else to the drive you chose to install windows on
>so you gotta use easyBCD to put the boot sector on your windows install partition
>and that will fuck up the w7 installer on your install drive so you gotta copy everything from the usb again if you want to install W7 again
>and you gotta install your mobo suppliers USB3 drivers or else your mouse will act fucky
so its a non issue once you've got everything up and running its just the prep work thats a pain in the ass

>>58880872
>The question is, should I buy an arctic accelero xtreme cooler or just straight up a new card?

When my 7970's fans had this annoying clicking and I just got sick of the cooler, I bought a prolimatech GPU cooler from frozenCPU
>>58880743
it was fun to install and worked a charm. it might be worth investing in something to stop your card from sagging if you do get an aftermarket cooler, I saw some really nice supports that go into expansion slots the other day.

anyway if you do, just be careful with installation. also: if you don't feel inclined to install the included VRM coolers, then don't worry too much. the stock VRM coolers did the trick for me when I didn't bother to install prolimatechs, because I thought I would save them for a better card.

>>58880934
Fugg, so anon should I install the ltsb edition? Is there any repercussions from ms?

>>58880958
no way man, when the bentium arrived i was worried and installed W10 before i tried 7
its probably the worst OS i've ever used absolutely bar none

>>58880965
OMG, so which w10 should I install, my specs similar to you, except the GPu , which is 1070s.

Can ds4 be played in w10?

>>58880979
>so which w10 should I install
install W10 - 3

How does this look? Am I missing anything obvious?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QnRHN

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwCRHN

Building a budget build for my gf. Thoughts? Dunno about the i37100 but the 7350 breaks budget

I have a celeron g1610t lying around and have been thinking of building a small box out of it.

Is it still worth building ivy bridge machines? I've seen Intel motherboards for about £40 so I reckon I could get motherboard, case and ram for probably less than £150.

Thoughts? The CPU is cheap as fuck and if I need moar I can always find a more powerful used CPU.

>>58881011
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QnRHN
>>58881062
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwCRHN

>those two builds

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>>58879004
I have this case but in black.

Wish I had gotten something else instead.

Bought it because I wanted lots of HDD bays and because it gets really hot in summer here but I ended up having to remove one HDD bay to install my 3 fans 299mm GPU.

The problem itself is not the GPU length but the HDD bays placement, there's like 40 to 50mm gap between HDD and one of the HDD bays overlaps just where the PCI-E slot is located, if they had been placed more throughly( just move then 2 or 3cm) they could have fit all the HDD bays and a big GPU without having to remove anything.

So in the end I only have space for 5 HDD, 4 if using only the HDD bays and 5 if screwing the HDD directly to the case floor which doesn't comes with rubber grommets.
The HDD bays do have rubber grommets where the HDD gets screwed but the bay itself doesn't and it gets docked in a way that it touches metal to metal and only one side can be secured by screws so while one side is tight and secure the other can be moved up and down.
Also the HDD bays can bend the case frame which causes noises.

The stocks fans aren't that great either, they need to run max rpms to push air through the HDDs even though the gap between HDDs is plenty.

The fan hub is cool but it it's impossible to run your CPU fan at low RPW and the case fans at high rpm unless you install an extra PWM fan just to control the hub which leads to the next problem;
if you have a closed loop like a H100i which reports a consistent CPU fan speed of something like 2000 rpm, you're forced to use a PWM fan just to control the Fan Hub.
A PWM fan gets connected to the hub and the hub connected to the CPU_FAN the all case fans report as the PWM fan(all cloned as 1 fan)

The case its big but temperatures aren't that great and there's zero sound dampening.

I would avoid this case and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, if you really want this case for some reason get the H440 instead, which is the same chassis but with noise dampening.

>>58880207
fuckin nigger cattle

>>58881011
Get a cheaper motherboard, a z170 is used for overclocking, you could probably do with 450w, but i would recommended 550w

>>58881062
Get a Pentium G4560 instead, get a 200 series motherboard, get 2400mhz ram of the cheapest brand, your 2666mhx ram isn't even supported by that mobo, it would have ran at 2133mhz which is a waste of money. Get a rx 470, 450w will be more then enough.

>>58881214
>your 2666mhx ram isn't even supported by that mobo
you cant use manual timing?

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>>58881239
I didn't notice you already had it, it will work i think, it doesn't cost anything to try.

Since you already have the gpu, psu and ram, keep it, you should still get a 200 series mobo and Pentium G4560

>>58881265
Why a G4560 over the 7100?

>>58881398
its a really good processor for the price
outperforms my 3rd gen mobile i7

I'm preparing for a Ryzen build; I'm bringing over my current drives and hopefully CPU cooler, but everything else is new. I'm in the US. My current system is a DDR2 Phenom II, so my idea of pricing may be dated.

I don't totally trust the "price leaks" for US pricing. Would it be reasonable to expect to get an 8 or 6 core for around 300 or 200 USD and a mid-high end motherboard for around 100? I have a Microcenter nearby - is it possible they may do some bundle sales at/near launch? They used to run some very good CPU deals, but that may not be the case anymore.

I have time to wait, so I'm trying to snipe out the odd good online sales while doing so. Are these realistic yet trigger-worthy sale prices for "passable" parts?
>PSU (500W) - 40
>Case - 50
>Memory (8/16gb) - 50/90
>RX 470/480 4GB - 125/135

The only thing is that I currently run 1920x1200 but am considering 1440p (maybe 144hz) in the future. By the time my computer upgrade budget fits that, though, Vega or even Navi might be out, so...

Is 1440p worth it?

>>58881935

just put up rant, ultimately its up to you, though. if you can live with BLB, the PG279Q is pretty impressive.
>>58882146

>>58880170
get 2 ram sticks

I'll be building a new computer within 1 or 2 months. My budget will be from 400€ to 900€. I live in France, Paris.
The reason for the odd budget is simply because I'm poor and count every penny I have and the last time I had to build a PC was nearly 7 years ago or something so I have no idea about anything that has happened PC-wise since then.

The PC I wish for :
Screen is 1920x1080. Being able to play pretty much all the games I wish, not necessarily in high settings but medium settings at least, and more than anything, smoothly and which would not damage or fatigue my computer in any way no matter what. With that said, I'm not envisioning myself to play a lot of the newer games, only recent one that comes to mind would be the latest Battlefield (or similar FPS games) as I'm more of a retro person. Still we never know. Oh I plan on emulating quite a bit, things like PS2 or Dolphin (N64/GameCube). I might want to try out the latest emulations stuff too (WiiU, etc). No idea if I need something super good or not for those.
I gamedev, for now strictly 2D, but in the future I might do lowpoly 3D models, those sorts of stuff, same here, no idea if it's CPU/graphic intensive or not. I draw (think Photoshop/SAI), sometimes I might want large canvas, same here I'd want something that could handle that.

All in all, more than top performances, I want something solid and consistent that will last me a long while and that could possibly not hinder me in anything I'd want to do, while keeping in mind that I'm not really a greedy person and that my budget can somewhat be limited. I already have a computer screen by the way, so this is just the PC itself. From my limited knowledge, I believe i7 would be too expensive and overkill, so I think an i5 would be good, but don't know about i3.

First time posting on this thread so I'm more or less testing the waters here, it's fine if I don't get spoonfed everything, I'm eager to learn anything I've missed. Thanks for reading.

>>58880934
You could also simply use an SATA DVD drive for installing Windows 7. It's like 10 bucks.

Will a GTX 1060 support dual 1440p monitors (never gaming on more than one)? Will it even support dual 1080p monitors?

Both 60hz.

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I have my GPU plugged into the second PCIE slot because it looks better

My bios says its running at x8 speed though.
How do I make it run at x16?
There is options for PEG0/PEG1 to change to "Gen 1 to 3". Is that what changes it to x16?

>>58882582
also the manual says this:
3x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots (support x16/x0/x4, x8/x8/x4 modes)

>>58880993
B-but windows 10 senpai

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>>58882582
>>58882618
also this

Guys which windows 10 should I install for gaming? Is enterprise ltsb is the best option among all?

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Poorfag building a pc here.
Is this good? Budget is under 450$

>>58882652
The manual says it: Only the leftmost slot runs at maximum speed. It's stupid but that is how it is.

>>58879121
RX470 or 480

>>58882687
Damn, was hoping it was changeable.
Thank you.

>>58882582
>>58882618
>>58882652

Can't tell if retarded or troll.

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>>58882755
this desu

>>58882755
>>58882764

Fuck off faggot

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What yall think?

>>58882671
RX460 2GB really isn't a good option, see if you can get a 1050Ti. Rest is decent. Is $450 your hard limit or could you spend or save up to $500?
You could then fit a RX470 4G in which would make a difference, see: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gMqZr7
In time you could then add another 8GB RAM and a 120-240GB SSD when you can afford it.

>>58882801
>that rendering
My eyes are tearing more than your pic right now.
Mobo is likely to be muh overpriced gaymen maymay, rest looks good. PSU is decent but not meant for OC.
Get a EVGA G3/G2, SeaSonic G or Corsair RMx instead. Also why that one black Noctua fan?

>>58882856
Will not be doing much or any overclocking really so the PSU is fine.
The fans are to collab with my current build that I'll hook up to my TV and watch movies, youtube and such.

>>58882829
If the RX 460 can run modern games and any settings 30-60 FPS then its good enough for me.
Right now im on a 2010 laptop with intel HD graphics and a shitty dual core cpu.

>tfw you remember to enable your XMP profile after like a year of having your computer
Feels 10-20 extra cinebench points, man

>>58882929
The 460 probably *can* run any game at 1080p/30 medium, but it won't in a year or two; while the 470 will easily last you three or four years at the same settings and do high/ultra at 60 in most games today

Going from the 460 to the 470 is night and day.

>>58882331
>slow
>like REALLY slow
>need to have a blank dvd
>cant just buy ONE blank dvd
>need to have some dvd burning program
>versus just having any old sata drive laying around that you can re purpose

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>>58879004
>posted this shit in 2 /sqt/ threads yesterday
>eurofag
I have an asus p8p67 board with some gpu (hd 6970?, can't check right now), installed void linux on it, but still want to play vidya. Heard of pci passthrough to a windows vm and want to get an extra gpu for my host system. Want to spend as little as possible for a pci.e 2.0 card (x8 slot I think); hd 6450?

>>58883126
>need to have a blank dvd
Actually you only need to have the printed Windows 7 DVD.
Windows 7 was never sold digitally, so if you bought it properly and didn't pirate it, you own an installation DVD, flip it into the drive and are ready to go.
This is how I installed Windows 7 on my new 2016 Skylake laptop with its built-in SATA DVD drive and built-in PS/2 keyboard+mouse (so USB wasn't needed at all).
>like REALLY slow
The DVD is spinning for like ten minutes before all the files are on the internal HDD and it's way less effort than going through that cumbersome internal HDD installation method manually.
(You can still avoid all those caveats buy doing a proper unattended installation over network via a Remote Install Server, but that's even more effort.)

Is there a website similar to pcpartpicker for mini itx or small computer builds?

>>58883230
>Bought Windows 7
Literally why

>>58883618
vidya

>>58883618
Because it's the best Windows made after Windows 2003 ("XP x64 Edition") and Windows 2000.

>>58883655
>>58883627
The problem was
>Bought
Not
>Windows 7

>>58883627
>>58883655
>bought

>>58883655
He means that it's a pointless purchase at this point, as it's not updated anymore. It's literally easier and cheaper to just pirate it.

>>58883511
But anon... pcpartpicker does sell small build parts.
The stupid question threads is over here friend >>>58877654

>>58883705
>>58883707
>pirating an OS
Enjoy your hidden malware

>>58883705
I tend to buy good stuff, so I can keep it.
Living in first world with an average income I can afford it.
>>58883711
>as it's not updated anymore
It gets updated until January 2020.

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>>58883748
>pirating

>>58883748
Try harder. There are reliable activators with a license server which can be turned off, as you only need to do it every once in a while to keep it active.

Also, this is /g/, take that underage "muh malware" paranoia somewhere else.

me >>58882280

I did check http://www.logicalincrements.com/ but I'm still unsure of what would fit me best. Something around 400-500€ looks good but the same goes for something around 800-900€. I do not want to have regrets, whether by buying something too cheap which would end up not powerful enough to satisfy me, but also something too expensive I might not even fully use everything it has to offer.

I've had the same Windows 7 loader since 2014 and never had any problems with it. Still get updates and all of that.

Considering this is something I had picked up at random back then I don't think Windows 7 is any hard to pirate.

Was anyone else scared before they built their first PC?

>>58883850
no

So I'm thinking about building a new PC, and I'm looking at the "superb" tier from logical increments. It recommends me a €124 motherboard, however is it possible to use a way cheaper one? Where do cheaper and more expensive motherboards differ in functions?

>>58883865
maybe PC gaming isn't for me then

>>58883892
>>58883850
pcpartpicker and logicalincrements hold all the struggle away from you...

>>58883850
Yep. Because I lacked knowledge and couldnt really afford (money-wise) to make mistakes. And without tech savvy friends I only had google and youtube videos for guidance.

>>58883796
But the botnet paranoia is okay? What's the difference? I still can't see how being able to retrieve information I accessed several months ago and all but forgot about but suddenly need is anything but useful in chrome.

>>58883850
I was nervous, nervous of a lot of things, but I had the help of a friend who put his pc together before, so I trusted him.

>>58883892
don't let fear get in the way of your desire to pc game, as I have learned, it is fear over nothing.

>>58883931
Feds looking at his kiddy porn collection concerns him more than malware.
I personally love windows 10s new features.

>>58883910
I know about those sites, still find it a bit daunting though

>>58883968
binge-watch how to build pc videos on youtube.
ask questions in these threads >>58877654

>>58883731
I'm talking about builds not parts because mini builds require specific pieces you can just buy random parts.

>>58879004
Don't those kind of table are always charged? Why whould you put your mobo directly there?

>>58883968
here, give us what you want to play or do, and for what price, we'll help you out.

>>58883980
and this

LEGO building general

I'm laughing my ass over these threads. You guys talk about things 8 year olds can do and make it sound complicated.

>>58883887
Z-series chipsets are needed to overclock Intel chips, and the correct chipset and socket are needed for the generation (Z270 for Kaby, Z170 for Skylake)

Expensive Z series boards will have better power supply circuitry, allowing you to overvolt further without causing a housefire. They're also usually going to have features like a built in amp or faster networking

>>58883996
ha! got em!

How good are pcpartpicker's build guides? are they reasonable or just memes?

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>>58879004
New fa/g/ here. Built a rig last year and have had no problems until recently; my PSU is emitting an awful coil whir.

I've dug through forum posts/videos, and everyone says that it's not a problem but just annoying, and the only way to "fix" it is to buy a new PSU.

I'm not looking to buy the same PSU as I worry the problem will just start again. Looking to upgrade. Budget is $80. What do you guys recommend?

Specs:
Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
8GB RAM
Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card
Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case

>>58884034
Theyre posted by users and rated by the users. Most know what theyre doing. Read the comments.

>>58884054
Should clarify, old PSU is SeaSonic S12II Series S12II 620 Bronze (SS-620GB) 620W Intel ATX 12 V 80 PLUS BRONZE

What is a good, but cheap (~50$) video card for a pci.e 2.0 (x8) slot? p67 mobo chipset

>>58883993
ok
pretty much only going to use it for gaming, budget is around 650 GBP (around $800)
don't care about maxing graphics on new games that much, will mostly play games from the last few years (e.g. XCOM 2, Witcher 3, CSGO) since i've lost interest in gaming on consoles, but also some older stuff will keep me interested

>>58883999
not him, but I also had a bit of a problem finding the right CPU and motherboard combination. So far my list is heavily based on logical increments and what my local Micro Center has to offer.

I'm going with a i5 6500 skylake and Z170A MSI M3 motherboard with no plans of overclocking. But like you said the motherboard does offer other things like the built in amp which is nice.

I'm just getting back into pc gaming, and I'm trying to upgrade my video card. It seems like GTX1060 is what I'm going to go with for affordability

Will this card work with the computer below? i5, not i7 version.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-1060-6GB-G1-Gaming-Graphics-Card-Nvidia-/172514295719?hash=item282aa73fa7:g:BT4AAOSwNnRYlRb8

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015JVBAPI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Other suggestions for improving the rig would be greatly appreciated. I've been out for 7+ years and don't even know where to start back.

>>58884173
Use this as a starting point. Then take it to pcpartpicker to add/swap things until youre happy
https://choosemypc.net/uk/?budget=650&oc=false&options=

>>58884260
cool, didn't know about that site, thanks anon

>>58884273
np

GTX 1060 vs RX 480?
price is relevant

>>58884191
You would more than likely also need a new power supply. The one in there will be very low rated and won't have the required connector for the card.

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me >>58882280 >>58883804

Attempted a build. Could I get critiques taking into account what I said earlier please? If the price could drop I'd be happy, as 950€ is kinda high.

>>58884321
US: 480
Rest of world: toss a coin or just pick whichever looks nicer, they're essentially the same.

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>Ryzen R5 will start at under $300
>overclockable 6-core for the same price as an i5-7600K
>overclockable 4-core for the same price as an i5-7400
Why are you faggots not waiting?

>>58884431
Because it will be shit.

>>58884445
but it will be cheap shit, and you could still get the i5 performance with their i7 marketed equivalent much cheaper

I'm planning on building a PC with the parts from the "Superb" tier, however is it possible to get a (way) cheaper motherboard? Which one do you guys recommend and what are the pros and cons?

>>58884431
at some point you have to bite the bullet

>>58884521
But you can't wait two whole weeks?

>>58884546
I do understand if they don't want to buy AMD. But not waiting two weeks for the AMD release so they can buy their Intel CPU after they have dropped in price to be more competitive, is just retarded.

>>58884582
Intel doesn't do price drops. They do damage control and intense marketing.

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Poorfag's first PC here, everything here look alright?

Anyone recommend a cheap monitor while keeping the budget somewhere around 450-500 USD?

>>58879004

About to build a RIG; I want to play current gen games at 1080p on my 144hz monitor. Doesn't have to be at ULTRA HIGH graphic settings, just has to be at a solid, silky smooth frame-rate.

Just need the tower and guts; is $1,500 too much or too little?

>>58884615
I fucking hope they do price drops this time, because that's all I was waiting for before buying an i7 for my mobo.

>>58884678
You'd need a GTX1080 so I'd say too little.

>>58884680
They won't. Intel is losing a few hundred million dollars this quarter and the next from faulty embedded SoCs and lost revenue from their shuttered ultramobile departments. Plus, Intel has this annoying habit of not admitting fault or defeat and playing as if they're the victors.

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>>58884697
>GTX1080
>for 1080p

>>58884700
Yea, I heard about those atoms. Awkwaaard. Fuck this, I might as well just get rid of my motherboard then and invest in an AMD setup then.

>>58884714
He said silky smooth and 144Hz you fucking moron. If you don't care to read, stop writing and god forbid, wasting other people's money with offering shitty advice!

>>58884641
Get a G4560 and RX470, much better combo than a i3-6100 and 1050Ti, PSU is overpriced, get the EVGA 500B, case idk about and if you can fit a SSD in, do it.

>>58884518
If you're getting a non-k CPU, you can go with a B250M mobo which are much cheaper.

>>58879101
I would just like to interject and say that my EVGA is anything but quiet, it's a Supernova G1 750W

>>58884714
>not wanting it just for the irony of using a 1080 to play in 1080

>>58884740
I own one of those Atoms
And ASRock won't replace it until it goes dead, even though the entire stepping is known to have that fault.

Given I've already decided on an i5 7500 and a RX 480 the rest doesn't matter right and I can just pick the cheapest for everything else right?

i5 6500 or 7500?

>>58884801
Can't you make it go dead faster?

>>58884855
The cheaper one. There's zero difference during use.

>>58884801
>I own one of those Atoms
>And ASRock won't replace it until it goes dead, even though the entire stepping is known to have that fault.
Thank god for EU regulations:
http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm
This covers anything which is faulty on delivery. And this manufacturing defect is easy to prove, so I can return it to the store before the machine bricks or the period expires.

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>>58879004
>build PC
>really fucking excited
>it doesn't start at all/it doesn't post
is there a worse feeling?
having faulty parts and you have to send them back and wait for new ones?
knowing the whole process will take like a week?

>>58884867
Won't having the 7500 matter in the future though? I looked into it and while as of now there are much differences won't the 7500 get worth in the next few years?

>>58884814
>the rest doesn't matter
Idk, buy a chink PSU, no name HDD and find out, will you?

>>58884855
6500 if you want to save money, otherwise the 7500. Performance wise there won't be much of a difference, if any.

>>58884872
This is why you start with a pre-built and upgrade it.

>>58884883
>chink
I didn't mean stepping that low eh.

>>58884879
Maybe, but I'm the kind of purchaser who is asking "what will my money get me now" instead of "what can I hope for getting in the future when I buy this and that". Never spend your money on a promise!

>>58884883
>>58884925
Thanks for the insight. I'll just decide at the end depending on how much the entire build cost since ultimately it's just a 20~€ difference.

>>58884904
http://i.imgur.com/361pNaI.png
Outdated list but should give you an idea of what to buy and what not.

>>58884968
If you're going to wait anyways then wait for Zen, it's comming in less than a month.

>>58884989
Yeah I won't buy it before a month or so, still I'm already informing myself now to get back into it.

But Zen is AMD? Previous computer I had built was AMD all around and never felt really content with it, on the other hand other less powerful Intel secondhand computers I've had felt more reliable all around. I just don't want AMD ever again I think, just gives me a bad feeling.

>>58885019
Weird, I had the opposite experience. I switched from AM3+ to LGA-1151 and it just feels less stable. I get application error messages on high CPU usage that I've never seen before on AMD.

>>58885019
Just wait for it and the benchmarks, if it's shit, then you can always get Intel.

>>58884753
Thanks!

>>58885040
>>58885102
I'll wait and see then.

The RX480 is probably here to stay though. If Intel drop prices I might go with an i5 7600K too.

>>58884753
Thanks, is this also relevant for EU?

1050ti or RX 470?

>>58885287
Yes, absolutely.

>>58885292
RX470, that's not even a competition.

Hi, should I change anything about this build? also got some questions.(EU!)

CPU: i5 7500
GPU: gtx 1060/RX 470 (which one is better? price is basically the same in EU)
PSU: Is 500W sufficient or should I get a 600+ one? Logical increments recommends 620W
Motherboard: No idea here, looking for a cheaper one than the €130 on logical increments. Suggestions?
8GB RAM
250GBSSD
1TB HDD

>>58884368
Oh I see, how do I figure out the ideal one to purchase? Looking for the best compromise between power and price.

>>58885367
If you can then get a RX480, 500W is still enough and for the mobo just get a cheap/decent B250, usually cost around 70-90€.

>>58880164
I can get two maglev for $30 so that is decent $15 per fan

Really quite pissed however that corsair end up making you pay more for their shit even though it seems like you get a cheap priced $100 radiator with them

>>58885367
at that price point the amd RX gpu is currently the best

>>58880733
How does that shit actually cool your CPU at all

I guess no OC will be applied

>>58885412
>>58885439
Thanks a lot, what features do more expensive motherboards (€100-€150) have that make them more expensive compared to the cheaper ones like the B250?

>>58885481
None. H270 is only an option for SLI, Z270 is useless since your CPU is locked.

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>>58885412
Should I just get the cheapest one here or is there something off

I jist picked up a Logitech F310 gamepad on Jewegg Canuckistan for $25 Canadian Pesos including shipping and tax. Did I do good or fuck up? I need some sort of half decent analog controller.

>>58886178
Logitech F310 is garbage. Way worse than the wired 360 controller, which costs the same.

>>58886235
>Wired 360 controller
$40-50 plus shipping. We're in Canadian rupees here.

>>58880777
TN my nigga
None of the the qc problems of IPS and a PG278Q is $300 cheaper than a PG279Q

>>58886267
Wait for a sale or something, I got mine for $30 cad from amazon.

>>58886033
Alternate prices are shit, buy at Mindfactory or maybe Amazon.
Generally speaking there's nothing wrong with the HDV if it has the features you need, what's your complete build like anyways?

>>58884445
This
Already the tdp is a lie and the clocking is a lie

>>58886267
You just going to waste $25 to then buy another $40 controller, because a F310 has unusable triggers with the wrong springs, unusable analog sticks with huge deadzones (in hardware), a d-pad worse than the 360 one and mushy face buttons good for few weeks, before they break.

>>58884700
>shuttered ultra mobile department
Their mobile Y and U lines are thriving this gen, the Kaby Lake commercials are really drumming up hype in normies

>>58886364
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10288/intel-broxton-sofia-smartphone-socs-cancelled

>>58886235
A real controller does best, even the Microsoft-branded $20 third party Xbox controller I got was complete fucking garbage, but luckily I was able to swap it for an actual $40 Xbox controller after comparing about the triggers and vibration noise

>>58886399
So tablets still have Y CPUs, what were cherry trails even used for other than umpcs?

>>58886334
What do you mean with alternate prices? Also mindfactory seems to be germany only, I'm from Belgium. Amazon also a bit too shady imo.

CPU: i5 7500
GPU: RX 470
PSU: Sharkoon WPM600 (600W)
Mobo: ?
8GB RAM
250GB SSD
1TB HDD

>>58886429
IoT devices, smartphones, embedded devices, etc.

>>58886400
>vibration noise
The F310 doesn't even have vibration feedback.
It's like a $3 Chink counterfeit, but it costs $25+

>>58880170
Maybe get a cheaper mobo and add an extra stick of ram

>>58886429
And also keep in mind that Intel poured billions into this department to compete with ARM-based competitors, so they've been losing far more money over the years and now have no chance of recuperating those loses with non-existent sales.

>>58879408
Thunderbolt is proprietary crap, though.

>>58886440
>alternate prices?
Alternate.de
>mindfactory seems to be germany only
They do ship internationally, but it costs.
No idea about what shops you use or even have available, imho just get a <90€ B250 mobo, more isn't worth it. Amazon.de is fine as long as you don't buy from some shady seller.
>Sharkoon WPM600 (600W)
Do not buy a Sharkoon PSU.

>>58886442
>IoT
Nice, kill it dead while it's still a fetus

>>58879004
So I've been running a Sapphire 7750 since it came out and wanting to upgrade to a 1080.
Wanting to play loads of games on Ultra with at least 60 fps.
Anyone know where to get one as cheap as possible? Also currently on my first build, only thing missing is the GPU

So my friends pc has some chinese noname psu and he is looking to replace with something decent.
What do you guys reccomend for a
i5 6400
750ti
8gb 2133 ddr4
1 hdd ,dvd drive m/k nothing fancy

>>58886613
EVGA 500B, no point in spending more.

>>58886497
haha right alternate.be, was confused.
What's wrong with the sharkoon PSU? Which one would you recommend instead?

I have an NZXT Source 530 case and it annoys the god damn fuck out of me. It randomly starts buzzing and I have to press into it or smack it to make it stop, but that happens about 20 times a day. Tightening the bolts for the side panel actually makes it worse, loosening helps a bit. What should I do to get rid of it once and for all?

>>58886927
Buy some of these
https://www.amazon.com/120mm-Anti-Vibration-Rubber-Fan-Gasket/dp/B007Y5NS0S

>>58886898
EVGA, SeaSonic, XFX, Be Quiet, Xilence and Corsair Veangence are budget PSUs i'd consider, see what you can find.

Can you guys recommend me a pcie wifi adapter?

Also, whats the meme SSD these days? Is it still samsung 256?

>>58887054
Any Intel-driven adapter. Atheros is a close second.

>meme SSD
Samsung 960 EVO is faster than the old 950 PRO and cheaper.

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Stupid question ahead:

With the recent activities around AMD;
Do I need any of those unlocked multiplier / high tdp whatever stuff If I probably just gonna stick the CPU in, activate boost if not already done and don't touch it ever again?

>>58887111
No, a 65W TDP Ryzen R7 1700 will do you just fine for ~$330.
Or you can buy an 85W Intel E5-2640 v4 for $500.

>>58887076

Overspending for M.2 SSDs is meaningless unless you really need the extra sequential speed. Go SATA.

>>58884372
Stock cooler is good enough for the 7500 and you don't need z270 chipset, a H110 or B250 would be sufficient(unless you want to be able to upgrade to a 7600k or 7700k later).

>>58886828
Hmm yea that looks good

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>>58887139
Yeah that's pretty much where it will go to, just wanted to check if there would be a practical plus I was unaware of so far...

>>58886607
>1080
>cheap
buy a dead one

>>58886828
>500B
sub-par

>>58886613
something about 500-550W gold rated from one of these brands anon listed here >>58886961
modular is really nice to work with but not required and can save you a bit of money.
just check jonnyguru reviews

>>58887198
>>58887139
>>58887111
pretty sure they will all be unlocked, the X branded ones are just higher binned (higher potential OC).

>>58887167
>1xx chipset mobo
needs UEFI update BEFORE inserting kaby lake CPU unless mobo can update without CPU (very few can do this).

>>58887111
>>58887198
stop posting this fucking retarded looking bitch

>>58885452
It's a H60 with a Fractal Venturi fan.
It gets the job done just fine.
But yeah no OC, hence the chipset.

>>58887230
>500B
>sub-par
Are you retarded? EVGA 500B is a perfectly fine budget PSU.

>>58887298
it's like the corsair CX series, it's sub-par to everything else you can get for another $15-20

retard

>>58887198
>>58887111
dont listen to mr negative over there, that bitch hella fine

>>58887348
except for her fucking eyes

>>58887334
No it's not you autistic retard. EVGA 500B doesn't explode unlike shit Corsair trash, it's a good budget PSU for abour $40-45.
>it's sub-par to everything else you can get for another $15-20
>HURR A MORE EXPENSIVE PRODUCT IS BETTER DURR
Well... NOT SHIT SHERLOCK. Might as well import a Super Flower Leadex titanium then.

>>58887398
learn to read and stop moving goalposts you butthurt autistic faggot

sure it's ACCEPTABLE but you should know: DONT SKIMP ON PSU

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/zNK7YJ,DPCwrH/

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>>58887167
Thanks. I'm taking my time as I won't buy it before a month or two. Pic related of the ideas so far.

If anyone has any suggestions they're welcome. Budget is maximum €800~+.

>>58887370
really? gotta admit that hazey glare is doing it for me

>>58887423
Your opinion is retarded and objectively wrong you tech illiterate retard.
Budget builds with locked CPU do NOT require a perfect PSU, you're essentially telling people to waste money, fucking retard.

> FedEx truck left for delivery at 7:30 AM today
> It's almost 4:00 PM

Oh fuck

Rate my build /g/
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h
>inb4 buy noctuas
Dont talk to me about your cheap shit and cum colored fans

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>>58887491
You think a good PSU is only for overclocking? Are you for real? Please leave this board and never come back.

>>58887426
Use pcpartpicker.com

>>58887426
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/tMZM6X
mobos, gpu and psu depends on your country.

>>58887545
i7 and 1060 is unbalanced, u want a 1070.
and you're going full fucking retard with the fans, you wont see any difference with more than 4 (and your case already comes with at least 2)
Wifi is shit for gaming.
m.2 is outdated, get NVMe
What are you gonna do with that much RAM?
Get a modular gold rated PSU, you wont regret it.

>>58887623
Or maybe he need a powerful CPU and plays games at 1080p. "It's not balanced" is literally fucking retarded

>>58887545
Stop posting this already
You only need three fans

>>58887623
What the fuck is NVMe, WiFi is a nice to have, red pill me on gold rated psu. Im already at my budget, so im not that willing to spend more

>>58887684
Look it up you retard.
If you're willing to drop hundreds of dollars on a computer part you should probably have the mental capacity for 40 seconds of Google

>>58887545
Shit cooler won't handle even a mild OC on that CPU
Too much ram for obvious gaymer build
Shit old case
Underpowered gpu
Below average PSU
$150 on fucking fans

Probably should just kys if that's the best you could do.

>>58887721
I did. Still dont understand why
>muh storage is better than yours

>>58887552
EVGA 500B is a decent PSU for budget builds and won't fail. Clearly you are some butthurt tech illiterate retard with buyers remorse, a retarded shill or a bad troll.
Time to go back from wherever you came from you autistic retard.

>>>/b/
>>>/v/
>>>/leddit/

>>58887623
>m.2 is outdated, get NVMe
M.2 is a socket, that can accept pcie/nvme and sata drives.

>>58887738
Because what you have is SATA, which is much cheaper in the 2.5" form factor
And NVME has over 5x as fast of a limit, and is an adequate use for M2, considering it actually needs the 4 PCIe lanes for that speed

>>58887545
It's absolute shit and you already know this, fuck off.

>>58887750
He probably meant [that] m2 is outdated

>>58887632
there's no fucking need for an i7 then

jesus fuck just kill yourself you massive retard i bet you're the same fag that's trying to argue about power supplies because the god damn newfag wannabe stench is reeking from you

>>58887684
NVMe is better version of m.2
gold rated is higher quality and more efficient and will protect your shit from getting fried better than cheaper units (except rosewill shit).

>>58887748
>EVGA 500B is a decent PSU
again, was never the argument and dont skimp on PSU. just stop posting you tard.

>>58887750
you want native NVMe support and not all m.2 supports NVMe.

>>58887684
> Im already at my budget, so im not that willing to spend more
then dont get expensive stuff like m.2

>>58887790
>all I actually know is nice video game consoles

>>58887790
>maybe he needs a powerful CPU
>maybe people don't just use their PC for gay men
>"YOU NEED AN I5 YOU RETARD"
you're the guy who keeps shitting on i7's because video games aren't you

>>58887767
Alright. Can you suggest a nvme ssd then

>>58887852
Did he even mention what the PC is for?

>>58887876
950 or 960 pro, honestly the only NVME drives worth getting
If you think that's too expensive, then don't get m2 at all, get some SATA 2.5" drives

>>58887790
>it's sub-par
>was never the argument
Nice backpaddeling you autistic faggot. Time to go back.
>protect your shit from getting fried
Any decent bronze PSU won't fry your components.

>>>/v/

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>>58887923

>>58887876
see >>58887813

>>58887979
>posting those retarded 9gay memes
At least now we know that you have no arguments and where you retarded autist came from.
Time to go back, faggot.. >>>/9gay/

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>>58888071

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>>58888071
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>>58888105
>>58888084
Autism.

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>>58888264
>butthurt retard thinks a budget bronze psu is anywhere as good as a good gold rated unit and dont know how to read

>>58888291
>anywhere as good as a good gold rated
1. Some are and
2. never said that.
Maybe you should keep in mind the fallacies you posted yourself and learn to read yourself you autistic retard.

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>>58888319
i said 500B is sub-par, then clarified what i meant, then you go full autism and refuses to acknowledge anything i say.

you're the only one that used fallacies here, boyo.

and to make it even clearer, there's no fucking reason to get a 500B when you can get a vastly superior gold rated for $20 more.

>>58888372
>you're the only one that used fallacies here
Now you're blatantly lying. You just used fallacies yourself, retard.
>there's no fucking reason to get a 500B when you can get a vastly superior gold rated for $20 more
Yes there is. People come here and ask for budget build, especially with small budgets wasting those $20 is just stupid.

>>58888544
>wasting
now you're the one lying