/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Just buy a Mac, you losers.

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>>58887563
Will do. I don't think I'll be able to list alternatives though, that's why I like to keep a .txt on the side too.

>>58887623
May I ask why the i5 7400 and not 7500?
Anyway I tried my hand at it, not sure what I'm doing though but here it is so far :
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/pbpTNN

Also, stupid question : is it possible to get delivered all pieces from same seller so I don't end up paying stupid amount of fees? I can't build the PC myself but I really don't feel like having to go to Paris and carry everything by hands, don't want to get mugged on the way.

>I can't build the PC myself
I mean I can.

>>58888123
>paying twice as much for obsolete hardware
no

>>58888132
>1x4GB RAM
get a kit of 2x4GB instead and you're good, less is not recommended.

>is it possible to get delivered all pieces from same seller
you can check which sites pcpartpicker pulls prices from and go to their site and make a shopping list and get everything from one place, but you might get a higher cost if you do.

and it says in the list if there's shipping fees or not.

dont you have a postal office near you?

>>58888200
t. permavirgin

>>58888211
>>58888132
also maybe get this PSU instead

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/xVkD4D/seasonic-power-supply-ssr450rm

>>58888226
>not paying out the ass for shitty hardware makes you a virgin
k

>>58888132
Get 2x4GB 2400 RAM and a cheaper PSU, 98€ is a fucking rip-off.

>>58888064
Fuck off you, just cannot lift a full tower fukboi

are AMD stock coolers any good? I mean, better than Intel's?

>>58888299
yes i can, you fucking manlet, do you even lift?

>>58888226
At least i don't suck dick like you

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>>58888211
Oh I meant to put two, whoops.
Fixed : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/64BKGf

Yeah I do, that's not a problem to get it delivered here. They're not listing any fees, it might be because it's set on amazon.fr, and amazon don't make you pay anything if what you're getting get too expensive.

>>58888235
>>58888283
>450W
Isn't that a bit too low though? Not that I know what I'm talking about.
Here we are so far, pic related.

About the RAM, 2133 is fine? I see there are more expensive ones with higher values.
Regarding the graphic card, does the brand matter? I was seeing a lot of variety.
Is the mobo ok? It's not doing useless shits I don't need with that current build? Though I don't think there was a cheaper one available.

>>58888064
I found a ring in the dirt near a curb at uni worth $700, my build will get better

>>58888349
Seasonic is a meme, cut that shit out and go EVGA

I just built my first PC and i fant get any of the fan connected to the motherboard to start spinning. (CPU Cooler fan, a case fan and the Graphics cards fans) what do i do? Ive reset the bios, messed with its settings and nothing works.

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>>58888064
Hi guys, I have this computer since December 2009 or 2010 I think. I would like to keep it. Here are my specs how can I fix my computer to make it comparable to today's desktops without replacing it?

I'm guessing getting more RAM and a new CG, I would like some propositions that aren't too expensive if possible. Thanks a lot.

>>58888377
Honestly just build new once Ryzen releases.

>preliminary price to performance for Ryzen seems to be shit
Should I just get go ahead and make my ITX build an i5-7500 65w and call it a day?

>>58888349
>Isn't that a bit too low though?
no you will barely use 300W

>>58888365
>implying EVGA isnt just rebranded Seasonic units
plus the cheapest EVGA is like €99

>>58888366
pics

>>58888377
use speccy instead

>>58888377
just get a 1050Ti and you're set

RAM is expensive now and not worth getting

your PC is shit so it won't be comparable to today's desktops at all but a 1050 Ti is inexpensive and probably good enough for you

>>58888349
The RX480 prices seems to have gone to shit I have seen some for $189, why not just go RX480.

>>58888349
>450W
Technically enough but imho get 500W.
>2133 is fine
Yes but 2400 costs the same and is slightly better.
>graphic card, does the brand matter
Yes and yours is fine.
>Is the mobo ok
Yes, decent choice but a bit pricey at 93€, there are other decent Gigabyte, MSI and ASRock mobos around 70-80€.
See if you find something. Also consider a <25€ cooler, Intel one is enough but that thing is pure shit.

>>58888418
Wait to see if Intel cuts prices. Also, will you be using a GPU? If not then maybe it's worth it to wait until the summer for the APUs, that's what I'm going to do

>>58888418
you're retarded because that was just the top models and should wait until official release and dont fall for rumours

>>58888452
>Technically enough but imho get 500W.
Why do people insist on bigger PSUs for literally no reason? He will NEVER reach more than 200W total peak with that build, ever. 450W is overkill and you're recommending more? Why?

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>>58888064
good upgrade from g3258?

>>58888422
>implying EVGA isnt just rebranded Seasonic units
EVGA G2/3 are based on Super Flower Leadex/II.

>>58888489
170 mobo + g4560

>>58888422
The EVGA GQ series are based on FSP units.

Made upgrade to 6700k and now I'm left with 3570, atx mobo and 8 gigs of 1600Mhz ram. I wanted to get something like a Silverstone Sugo 13 and slap a 400w PSU in it so I can have a nice mini itx PC to tinker with, using it as a router or media center pc hooked up to tv.

Only problem I have with is finding a Mini ITX 1155 socket mobo since they've been discontinued for two years now. Especially finding one that actually has support for frontal USB ports. I live in UK btw.

>>58888489
used 2500k or 2600k and OC

>>58888498
>>58888512
and the rest are seasonic.
seasonic is not a meme.

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>>58888422
The fans you see running are connect to the psu

>>58888530
What is a meme though is that Seasonic is the only decent PSU brand/OEM.

>>58888366
Are you using windows? Try installing your motherboard's software and see if it makes them spin
Try speedfan too

you might have a defective motherboard but it's strange that specifically all fans aren't working
are you sure you're connecting them right?

I wonder how much the 4c/4t and 4c/8t Ryzen CPUs will cost. I might consider selling my i5 4590 and making the switch, depending on the price.

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>>58888459
Yea I am somewhat interested in an APU, right now I am looking to build onto this. However I am also interested into building a Mac Mini size steambox.

I'm going to buy a RX 480, however which brand should I choose? MSI or Sapphire Nitro+? Don't care about overclocking, do care about frames&noise

>mom you don't understand I NEED a full tower!

>>58888562
>Switching from a good i5 to another 4c/4t with worse IPC

For what purpose?

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Ok, thanks everyone, changed once again.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pn9M6X

>>58888452
>Yes, decent choice but a bit pricey at 93€, there are other decent Gigabyte, MSI and ASRock mobos around 70-80€.
The thing is I'm not knowledgeable at all regarding mobos, I wouldn't know what to pick.

I apologize if this is the wrong thread to ask, but is it worth it to pick up a 1070 over a 1060? It's about 130 dollar difference

>>58888488
>He will NEVER reach more than 200W total peak
Not according to PCP. He can reach up to ca. 280W with a RX470 + 7500.
450W is still enough, even 430W is for such a build, but 500W will enable you for future upgrades and to reuse the PSU for virtually no cost.
You can get EVGA B, SeaSonic S12 (or so), XFX XT, etc. in 500-550W range for not much more, like $5 or so.

>>58888595
Two questions

What CPU do you have?

What monitor do you have?

>>58888509
man i just bought this mobo to replace a busted h97

>>58888530
z77 route? what would be good motherboards for that?

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>>58888565
The NCASE M1 gets my dick hard, but I'm not ready to give up my hueg tower coolers.

Do the fans just dangle there when you remove the dust filter?

>>58888530
>seasonic is not a meme
SeaSonic is a good brand and im another anon than to whom you were talking.
Ironically Super Flower based PSUs from EVGA are all so much better than SeaSonic based ones.

>>58888595
It will take more time before it becomes outdated, it will probably play games at high-ultra for the next ~4 years at 1080p give or take a year

>>58888603
i7 3770 And Acer G236HL

>>58888537
pic of the headers of the ones not working and please rotate the image so i dont break my neck

>>58888568
Sapphire is always reliable.

>>58888569
>tfw little brother went full retard and got a full tower
i facepalmed pretty hard and told him they had the exact same case but regular atx mid tower...

>>58888573
>worse IPC
[citation needed]

>>58888595
check some fucking reviews and compare benchmarks yourself jesus christ it's not hard.

>>58888608
eh i misread your chipset, just get whatever unlocked i5 or i7 for your chipset/socket and dont change mobo.

>>58888628
yeah but they're all more expensive in that guy's country

>>58888617
No it comes with brackets for the radiator and Harddisk. Trying to figure out how I am going to get my GTX970 inside this thing without breaking it on the other hand...

>>58888678
Your CPU is very good so it shouldn't bottleneck 1070. However if you actually are going to pull the trigger I would make the jump to 1440p ips or 1080p ultrawide whichever you prefer. 1060 is strong enough for 1080p imo.

>>58888687
No, it just looks like the fan and the dust filter are held on with the same screw. Which would mean that if you removed the dust filter, then the fan would be loose.

Also, practice your GPU gymnastics.

>>58888680
yeah, just offered $140 for a 4690k. lets see what happens.

>>58888602
I don't know what PCP is, but if it's a power supply calculator it's normal that the value is higher than reality. 280W will never happen on that build. Even at constant peak loads it won't go higher than 200~215W

I understand the concern with future upgrades, but we're moving to a more efficient tech world so the future is low wattage. 450W is more than enough. Personally I wouldn't spend extra, even if it's just 5$, for something I don't need at all

>>58888578
Something like this for example: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/y7MhBP
Never realized how sad french Amazon is, feel sorry for you. If you feel like upgrading in time consider a 500W PSU, otherwise 450W is fine.

>>58888718
Gotcha thanks for the info.

>>58888734
that seems like a bit much imo.

What happened to RAM prices, they have seen to gone up in price like %25 across the board. I tried googling, but couldn't find a reason for it. Is it a Jewish conspiracy?

>>58888608
Just get the best haswell you can afford. Theres no sense in changing your mobo or worst case mobo and memory if you go to kaby lake like that one poster suggested.

>>58888742
PCP = pcpartpicker

I agree with what you said about power usage and the future. there's no need to get a higher watt PSU

>>58888763
yes some shit with fabs

>>58888763
They will go up by another 25%. From what I understand it's usually some sort of a meme factory fire that gives them an excuse to skyrocket prices. We had the same shit going on with HDD few years ago.

>>58888742
>I don't know what PCP is
See OP.
>for something I don't need at all
If you don't it's fine. If you want some freedom those $5 are well spent.
Another thing to consider is that PSUs have peak efficiency around 50-60% load and degrade over time.

>>58888745
>1x 8GB
Isn't it better to get 2x4GB though?

>>58888763
Demand>Supply ATM

>>58888731
That's the V1, V5 comes with magnetic dust filters.

Is the Intel SSD 600p Series (512GB, M.2 2280 80mm NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D1, TLC) a good BUDGET NCMe SSD?
>inb4 get (insert ssd here)
Im not looking for the best out there. I said budget

>>58888794
Dual channel is a meme if you're not using integrated graphics.

>>58888782
wasnt the hdd shit flooding? i remember pics of the factories standing in meters of water

>tfw i bought several HDDs for cheap just a few weeks before it happened

>>58888794
depends if the mobo has 2 or 4 dimm slots

>>58888573
>For what purpose?
If the IPC turns out to be at Broadwell level or higher, then it's not worse IPC compared to Haswell. But the unlocked multiplier and XFR are really appealing.

>>58888794
the difference is negligible despite the common belief that dual channel is always better

Also, one 8GB stick would give you more room to upgrade in the future

>>58888780
>>58888782
I am planning on ditching my i5 2500k and switching to Ryzen, an AM4 mobo and 2x8GB of DDR4 RAM in April.

Should I just buy my RAM now before prices possibly increase more?

>>58888794
Yes and no. 2 ram cards is more unstable, but by a tiny bit. But if you only have one and it fails, youre fucked

>>58888718
Would you consider it wasteful to get a 1070 for 1080p?

>>58888123
LOL... Idiot...

>>58888831
I'd wait, they will have come down again by April

What should i upgrade or should i upgrade anything?
Delidded i3 4170
Strix 285
8gb 1600mhz cl9
1tb seagate
Getting some sort of 128 sdd on sunday.
Not going to upgrade the i3, i just upgraded to it from g3258

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>>58888831
Doubt they will increase

>>58888837
not the guy you're quoting but I efinitely would unless you want to be as future proof as possible

>>58888811
imho it's not worth it. 600p performance is about that of a mid range traditional SSD.
I won't suggest other m.2 drives, but you want 4x lanes, don't get B config.

>>58888754
the cheapest i can find, i5/i7 k wise is 179 otherwise for a 4670k

Rolling again for 888888888888 please

>>58888794
Yes but performance gain is minor. I selected 1x8GB because the mobo comes with only two slots, this enables you to upgrade to 16GB without having to buy a new kit.

>>58888888
(You)

>>58888858
>DELIDDED i3

Just....


Why?

Anyway a SSD just as you said and you look set.

>>58888888
bitch faggot

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>>58888888

>>58888888
There you go.

>>58888888
oh shit waddup

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>>58888888
HAHA WINRAR
holy fucking kek im a god

>>58888322
AMD's wraith cooler is pretty decent apparently

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>>58888835
>2 ram cards is more unstable
99.9999999999% not true especially if you buy a KIT. not even worth bringing up.

>>58888858
post speccy instead ffs
>updating from 2 cores to 2 cores
fucking kek. and if you dont wanna upgrade CPU then there is only one thing left to upgrade, isnt there?

>>58888888
OH SHIT

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>>58888888
reported to the NSA enjoy your alcatraz you shitter

>>58888888
runt

>>58888888
fugg what a shit GET

>>58888915
>imageless script post

nah bruh just a faget

>>58888888
What a fucking waste you fucking asslicker turd faggot

>>58888907
Got it cheap and it was already delidded. Anyways the temps are great

>>58888907
it greatly improves temperatures apparently

>>58888888
FUCK YOU FAGGOT I WAS 58888887

>>58888888
CHECKED

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>>58888888

>>58888888
You wanted twelve and only got seven. You are a failure m8

>>58888837
I kinda would. I personally have 1070 and even 2560x1080 at 60 fps it often feels like overkill. Futureproofing isn't smart, especially with Nvidia and their lack of hardware supported async in dx12 games. Unless you're some sort of CUDA engineer I don't see a point. You'd be much better off buying whatever suits you now, use it for 2-3 years and then sell it for half price thus saving 50% on next purchase. That's what I did with my old 970 gtx, bought it for 300 quid, sold it to some British Pajeet for 160 almost 3 years later via Ebay (Well 144 desu cause of 10% tax).

>>58888915
kys

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>>58888888
Couldn't you have thought of something more creative to say? Now the screencap is going to be disappointing.

>>58888888
include me in the screenshot haha :D

>>58888919
Im a budget gamer and there really is a difference between 2c/4t and 2c/2t. In some games the difference is huge. And the upgrade cost me like 30€

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>>58888956
I didnt count.
And it worked too

>>58888858
GPU then, Cheap 4c Ryzen or unjewed i5 with ht that Intel will probably have to release in order to stay competitive.

>>58888858
>Delidded i3 4170
>Delidded i3

WHY THO

>>58888888
God of 4chan

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>>58888064

Hey guys whats a good pc tower to get for playing games?

Last game i played on PC was age of empire 3 so i dunno what id need to run things like 'we happy few' i bought in december.

I dont like the neo looking ones, i think a nice plain thing like OP's pic would be nice.

Willing to pay up to £500, any good?

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I rolled for 77777 yesterday. GOT that too.

>>58889003
Buying budget gaming rig in UK for 500 quid is suffering but it can be done. G4560 + RX470 is probably your best bet but that's without including shit like monitor etc.

More info on what you can expect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dichjs9HXTg

>>58888888
Sadly a miss. At least you got dubs.

>>58888990
Would that i3 bottleneck 470? It probably does but how much. And is the jump from 285 to 470 big enough to be worth it

>>58888064
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djgCgL

posting budget build for beginners

>>58888985
alright not a bad upgrade then

>>58888995
because it reduces the temp by a lot

>>58889003
at least get the fucking lingo right you tard.

read the fucking sticky thread and links in the OP

>>58889052
fuck off retard your build is shit

>>58889046
It won't with few exceptions like Watch Dogs 2 that nobody plays anyway. I think it's something like a 30-40% upgrade but in many countries you can buy a RX480 for something like 10 bucks more.

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>>58888940

See you in 30 days

>>58889046
In some games, but an i3 is fully capable of running pretty much all games. The 480 is about on par with 390, which in turn is about on par with 290x, and the 470 is obviously a little weaker than the 480, so it wouldn't be a very big upgrade.

>>58889052
That build is disgusting trash, fuck off.

>>58889052
Even in 2014 this wouldn't be considered acceptable.

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>>58889024

well im willing to push to 700 all in first time. I dont want much out of it. Can i just use my t.v pc option and a HDMI cable instead of invest in a moniter? i like playing in bed with the missus watching (on the ps3 i mean).

Im sick of consoles now so really i see it as a long term investment in playing games.

>>58889057
Fuck the lingo if everyone can understand what im saying you turbo-spaka. I only wanted help as a beginner buying a tower i can play ok-ish new games on.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

So this is where people get their PSU information from right? Seems pretty legit.

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Why am i so obsessed with silence. Last week i made a dedicated pwm fan controller for my shitty psu with temp sensor measuring psu exhaust.

Pic related

>>58888064
Ordered an Enthoo Elite.

Am I a madman yet?

>>58889108
Ok so ill propably stick with the 285 until 2gb becomes too small.

>>58889198
TV monitors have an absolutely dreadful input lag. Still you should be able to buy really decent rig that plays most games at high details in 1080p and 60 fps. Give me a second and we will try to build something for ya.

>>58889237
I thought 2 gigs of ram is already too small. Also seriously if you already consider 470 why not add 10 dollars and get 480?

>>58889211
jonnyguru

>>58889218
I have that problem, it's a fucking disease I tell you and you'll never win. As soon as you silence the loudest component, you just start hearing the next loudest until youre dumping hot glue on every coil and shoving foam everywhere.

>>58889211
It's far from legit. Don't ever look at that, go to jonnyguru and read reviews.

>>58889244
The difference is bigger in my country.
Ans so fr 2gb has been enough for me because im just fine with high,even medium textures.

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>>58888888
What a waste of a get

>>58889270
Yeah so far ive gotten far enough to be distracted by hdd noise. Which is already rubberbanded. They really shouldnt warn kids about drugs but silencing your pc.

>>58889318
Mine's in a USB3 enclosure at the back of a cupboard on 2m extension cable.
Yeah, I know.

>>58889218
That's not really being silence obsessed. You're just cheap. IIRC, some of the Corsair PSUs have that functionality.
>>58889235
You bought a very large and expensive piece of decorative furniture that doesn't even look that good.
>>58889270
My case fans are 90% Noctua and my next target is my HDD storage.

>>58889264
>>58889284
Is there a way to find the reviews you're looking for so you don't need to scan all 45 pages...

>>58889343
Ironically it's going to save me a fuckton of space since I plan to move my mini-ITX storage server inside it.

And my next motherboard is going to be an SSI-EEB or E-ATX board.

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Still looking for a new mini-ITX case guys. Needs to fit a full-sized GPU and maybe about 5 HDD/SSDs.

Pic related is my current mess right now :(

>>58889357
The search bar.

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>>58889198
Hey thanks man,
Also is there a thing i can get with lots of USB plugs? my mate has 4 on the top-front of his computer.

>>58889343
So does my psu but it had noisy as hell yate loon and i didnt want to replace it with another voltage controlled fan because i like pwm. And tinkering.

>>58889370
Lian-Li has what you need. Browse their website directly to see all their models.

>>58889393
I just replaced mine with a be quiet silent wings and it did the trick.

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>>58889377
sorry mean for you
>>58889244

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>>58889370
The Node 304 is $60 on Newegg and it pretty much fits your needs. Seems like it's being phased out in favor of the Core 500, but the Node is the superior case.

>>58889374
Oh I tried that, but he doesn't have reviews on sharpoon. If he doesn't review it you should stay away from it I suppose? The toms hardware list mentions it's garbage.

>>58889439
if tomshardware says its bad and jonny doesnt say anything about it, it's probably bad.

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>>58889439
>sharpoon
>sharp poon
I would stay away from that no matter what.

>>58889407
Oh i heard good thing about those. But im more of a noctua guy. With one exception: thermalright ty147

>>58889430
That Node 304 looks like a fat bitch.

What about the Nano S? Seems a little bit bigger than I wanted, but looks like it has all the space for plenty of HDD/SSDs and decent cooling.

What would be a good graphics card for my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QnhjvV

Also, the reason it's an matx board with an atx case is because I got the case for $9, brand new.

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>>58889368
>>58889343
I would've gone with Caselabs but their fucking pedestals only come in PSU-flavor.

If the Magnum pedestals could host a mini-ITX system instead of 2xPSU I would've gone with the STH-10.

Instead they went with 4 PSU mounts for a single node chassis ...

>>58889377
>>58889418
no problem

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ That's 421 quid + 160 quid for https://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/amdradeongraphicscards/radeonrx470series/strix-rx470-o4g-gaming.html which gives you a full rig with monitor for a total of 580 pounds, probably 600 if you include shit like cheap mouse and keyboard. Remove monitor and you have a 500 quid rig. It was a quick pick so

a) Keep in mind pcpartpicker isn't perfect so check each part for lower prices in stores that aren't listed like scan or novatech

b) You probably could get something better when it comes to pc case, I just went for first thing that looked decent had positive reviews and was rather cheap.

But yea this is a pretty good start that you build upon, went for b250 mobo so you can easily upgrade to another more powerful kaby in the future.

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>>58889502
The online specs for the Nano S suggest a maximum of 4 dedicated drive spots, though I'm sure you can fit more with velcro tape or brackets.

is mATX worth it

>>58889548
Wait for Vega

>>58889565

I'm wholly convinced caselabs is only worth it if you go full custom loop - otherwise their cases are just expensive fractel cases.

>>58889575
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jzs2TH oops my bad. forgot to actually copy the link to the build.

>>58889565
clearly it's meant for a manchild who will fill it up with giant radiators for his gaymen pc

Does anyone know a good silent 200mm fan? And i know, they are rare. Considering that coolermaster or that one nzxt which name i cant remember

>>58889595
I'd like to see Fractal make an expensive case. Black plastic and steel gets kind of old.

>>58889595
I just don't understand how they seem so well designed but also do idiotic things like four PSU mounts for a case that doesn't even support multiple motherboards.

Dual-node chassis are a specialty item, and caselabs HAS several but won't manufacture them with Mini-ITX compartments. Instead you get four fucking PSUs.

>>58889617
Water cooling doesn't use that much power.

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>>58889618

>>58889640
the mounts are just for providing options for where to mount the PSU

>>58889642
HOLY NOCTUA
I consider myself some kind of a fan enthutiastic but i hadnt heard about this one yet.

>>58889642
I don't want to even think how much this will cost when it comes out.

>>58889439
sharkoon is shit. everything they make.

why would you even consider this?

>>58889687

Noctua love to announce things at events and never deliver on them.

>>58889687
corsair also has one (transparent and black)

http://www.corsair.com/en/black-200mm-case-fan

>>58889687
Most recent ETA they gave on that fan was Q1 2017 according to some dude on the LTT forum. Apparently, it's really hard to make a 200mm fan that doesn't suck ass with regards to static pressure.

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Should I be looking at anything else besides the formfactors, brand and price here for these b250 models?

>>58889750

Not really unless you have a million drives.

>>58889743
I bet its noisy. I wonder how low voltage it starts spinning at.

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>>58889642
that is a big poo. push slow or your b-hole is gonna tear

>>58889731
as much as your case

did I do good /g/? Poorfag willing to roll the dice for $60

>>58889750
features

>>58889778
it lists the dB right there you blind fuck, also it's not noticable (i have a 600T with 2 of those in it) and i only hear my HDD vibrating the case

>>58889746
Sounds great.
But why the fuck would you need pressure with 200mm fan. They are almost always case fans.

>>58889794
DB ratings are worthless without any information on how it was actually measured and ~30 is very easily audible.
If you're legit concerned about silence you don't want anything over 20.

>>58889218
You're a fucking idiot. You could've just bought a decent capacity psu that never turns its fan on.

>>58889794
I dont trust manufacturer db ratings. And a 200mm fan running at 1000rpm will be too noisy for me.

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coming from a fx 6000, is this ok for a new upgrade?

>i5 6600K
>Asrock z170 fatal1ty gaming k4
>HyperX fury 2133 16gb (2x8GB)

>>58889843
Fuck you building the controller cost like 10e. How much would have a new psu cost?

>>58889838

db or dba?

A subtle but important difference.

>>58889767
Thanks, do you know where I can find comparisons between the different brands? the "tomshardware" tier list is outdated.

Is there even a huge quality gap between gigabyte, MSI and ASUS mobo's? Should I just go with the cheapest one?

>>58889845
>200mm fan running at 1000rpm will be too noisy
Now THIS is Autism.

>>58889318
get an sdd

>>58889861

Shitload faster single threaded, decently faster multi depending on clocks.

>hard mode

Wait for ryzen and then upgrade (be it intel or AMD).

>>58889879

Given you aren't overclocking in my opinion its all the same shit for the most part.

>>58889890
Im not sure if i dare to go full ssd mode. What would i start to silence then?

>>58889873
Most or all fan manufacturers use dBa in their spec sheets

>>58889872
>new psu
That's why you do things right the first time. You could've paid like 10 bucks extra and got another 100 watts and never seen the fan turn on.

>>58889812
Overcoming things like drive cages and dust filters. There's probably not that much resistance, but 200mm fans are typically very poor when it comes to that. I don't think very many manufacturers scale up the fan thickness when they scale up the fan radius.

>>58889931
My psu is perfectly fine, if a little bit old. 600w bronze and with desent sized heatsinks.

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>>58888064


Is my AMD FX-8120 3.1GHz 8-Core Processor

Bottlenecking my AMD R9 390?

I just want to be able to play games on high and use Android studios emulator (AMD processor won't let me).

Please help

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>>58888888
checked

>>58889957
>bronze
>not titanium

>>58889964
Bottlenecking HARD

Wait for Ryzen

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>>58888888

>>58889964
depends on the application, but AMD cards scale better with faster single core performance only

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>>58889983


why do bad things happen anon

>>58889964
>bumps the desk
>gets a face full crt

>>58889838
>>58889845
this is recorded with my Galaxy J5 right inside the case next to the fan:
https://a.uguu.se/jyhdpHEHmquj_200mm_fan_noise_corsair600t.m4a

this is right outside the front intake:
https://a.uguu.se/6EhbUsUvzhSk_200mm_fan_noise_corsair600t_external.m4a

Both CPU and GPU drown out the case fans.

>>58890003
>AMD has no drivers

>>58889964
yes, my ivy i5 @ 4.0 is just enough for a 390x
clock the dick off that bargain basement octo and aim for games that multi thread

>>58889980
So youre telling me i should buy at least 200e titanium when i can "fix" my current one with 10e? An before you tell me i should have bought titanium originally, i bought that psu when titanium was a brand new thing and titanium psus cost a fortune

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>>58888888

>>58890032
Yeah and some of us like me run all the fans in the case when just shitposting at 500rpm. 1000rpm is too noisy.

Why is a b250 mobo adviced over a b85 for example? Just asking because I have no idea

>>58890072
anon, you just took the bait.

>>58890106
pretty sure you can run them at lower RPM.

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>>58890070


Fuck.
it does a good job but i never knew it could do better


last request.

what is this all about?
been happening ever since I bought it, never really cared 'cause it only pops up everytime I restart.

>>58890124
Newer platform.

And b85 isn't even the same socket, christ man. You probably mean b150 vs b250.

>>58890124
there's something called SOCKET and CHIPSET. google it.

>>58890144
I know i did.

>>58890124
Retard.

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>>58890154
>that desk

>>58890012
A great way to die

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>>58890154
found the cutfag

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>>58890154
>vaseline

>>58890106
my curve is set to whisper then ramp up quickly to helicopter. I don't care how loud it is under heavy load as I usually am wearing headphones or have the speakers cranked.

>>58889782
not bad I remember reviews when those came out because Ti on a 550w was an anomaly. poor 5v regulation or something but still rated well.
>prob didn't even need 450w tho

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>be massive poorfag slaving away in uni
>have no money for PC but want to build a ~$1,000 one for gaming
>decide to get shitty work study job last semester at campus woodshop
>months of yelling at dumb chinks to put on their safety glasses and clean up after themselves
>next week will finally have enough money to get all my parts
>mfw going to make it

>>58890221
Hope you're waiting until March before you buy.

>>58890156
>>58890163
Thanks, and yes I meant b150. I know about sockets. Getting tired haha.
>>58890175
:'(

>>58890215
Same here

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>>58890183


I'll get around to cleaning one day brah,
just my life on the table

>>58890203
what

>>58890237
I am, but I haven't felt this fucking giddy in years

>>58890237
Because?

>>58890239
because you cant use kaby lake CPU in the old chipset without updating UEFI and you cant update UEFI on most mobos without a CPU installed.

>>58890258
Ryzen

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>>58890251
>vaseline
>toilet paper
>more vaseline

>>58890268
What's the price drop supposed to be on it?

>>58890144
Of course you can but how low is the real question

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>>58890154
artifacting. prob from noise on the 12v or not enough amperage. you got a bargain basement psu too didn't you? you're gonna need at least 50 amps to push a more cores and a Radeon 3-hungry

>>58890203
wat?

>>58890262
>Buy Celeron
>Update BIOS
>Return Celeron
>Buy CPU of choice

>>58890251
>needs lotion to fap
mutlated dick

also
>cocoa butter to prevent dry skin
coconut is better

>>58890262
it's 2017, most motherboards allow you to update directly from the BIOS

>>58890283


fuck

cheated myself again
tahnks brah

>>58890292
lol my room is tiny
and I had a running nose for a whole month.
but okay

>>58890274
>>58890268
To expand... Right now I'm theorybuilding and I have a goal for an i7-6700k. Did the prices drop in response to Ryzen already or are they waiting for Ryzen's release?

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>>58890283
>to push a more cores and a Radeon 3-hungry

>>58890286
or just spend $20 more and dont have to do that shit

>>58890297
and most motherboards cant boot without a CPU installed so you cant even get into BIOS

>>58890315
>runny nose for a month
clean your fucking room

>>58890316
They're waiting for Ryzen release

And they will be BTFO
>>58886924

>>58890316
no and they probably wont drop because LOL INTEL never cuts prices

>>58890331
Which will? Ryzen will get BTFO? I mean, par for the course?

>>58890343
No? They said so?

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>>58890315
>my """"""nose"""""" is itching

>>58890360
Sheeeeeeeeeit.

>>58888123

But I'm heterosexual, senpai.

>>58890262
Thanks!

>>58890356
I mean expect Intel to lower prices to match Ryzen SKUs or be forcibly shoved out of the market for being so Jewish (greedy) and non-competitive.

>>58890356
>No? They said so?
no, they just have never cut their prices in the last decade so there's no reason to believe they will now.

>Which will? Ryzen will get BTFO? I mean, par for the course?
intel. there's good chance they finally catched up to intel thanks to Jim "PUSSY CRUSHER" Keller

>>58890389
>>58890400

Did AMD add some new technology to their CPUs? Because their eight cores don't compete with Intels quads usually. Wouldn't this be the first time AMD grabs the market? What's the expected new tech from them?

>>58890389
Intel might be panicking now, but they won't be once Ryzen comes out and is revealed to have horrendous single core performance.

>>58890389
you'll be surprised how many fanboys will still support kikes and shill this board to death

>>58890400
>>58890389
Also, I'm totally okay with Intel slashing prices. I don't have a horse in this race. If I can get a cheaper CPU off this competition I'm okay with that.

>>58890413
8 core 16 thread Ryzen is on equal footing with at least a 6900k (which also happens to be 8 core 16 thread) at nearly the same clock speed.

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>>58890413
it's a brand new architecture.... just fucking look it up ffs

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I can currently uprgade 2 of 3 things I want.

>SSD (dont own one)
>A monitor (currently using an old one with an adapter for the VGA)
>Graphics card, currently own a 670ti

Any recommendations?

>>58890428
Ah, okay. Well, I'm not aiming for cutting edge. Just a near top workhorse.

>>58890436
I am. But I'm still fairly new to it all. It's not easy to sort through most of the tech-mess so just looking for direction.

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>>58890373
>Sheeeeeeeeeit
AYOOO

>>58890448
Are you even getting the most out of graphics card with that monitor?

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>>58890413
its called IPC gains from a better architecture you dumb nigger, or has 5 years of the exact same archictectures from all vendors resulted in people not knowing what that means?

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>get this in the mail as-is
>turn PC on
>NO VIDEO INPUT
Motherboard is dead, isn't it

>>58890322
An 8 core and a 390 are very power hungry. what's the confusion?

>>58890469
Well, I haven't been around for five years so...
>tfw only three years old posting on 4chan

>>58890448
Doesn't make sense to upgrade only the monitor or graphics card because one will always be throttled by the other so just upgrade both of them.

>>58890477
get out while you can, this place is eternally spiraling downwards

>>58890461
Most likely. My current GPU is starting to struggle with certain games these days.

>>58890481
What kind of combo would you recommend? I can probably spare around $500.

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Talk dirty to me about 38mm fans. I have a few possibly lined up for some delicious ryzen cooling (got a cooler capable of handling over 200w) and i'm looking to push extremes of air cooling.

>>58890448
post speccy screeny ffs how the fuck are we supposed to help when we dont know what your system is?

>>58890477
>implying it's a 4chan term
christ

>>58890471
>to push a more cores and a Radeon 3-hungry
>An 8 core and a 390 are very power hungry
how do you fuck up that sentence so bad?

>>58890497
Too late. Already been posting here for years.
>tfw born shitposting

>>58890470
reset cmos, disconect drives and see if it will post.
any error codes/beeps? 1 short is bios found and loaded. vga issue is 1 long and 3 short beeps Iiirc

>>58890512
>>implying it's a 4chan term
>christ
wat?

>>58890428
for 600 euros

>>58890533
you implied you didnt know what IPC was because you've only been on this website for X years when IPC is computer lingo that has nothing to do with this website

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>>58890512
>post speccy screeny ffs

Ignore the 660. I switched since my 670 is getting KIA'd

>>58890556
No, I said I was three years old.

>>58890563
GPU & SSD

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>>58890373

>>58890556
>intel shills literally losing their minds

>>58890563
monitor and graphics

>>58890529
problem is, I'm completely illiterate when it comes to this shit, has no direct motherboard input though, only HDMI/DVI through the video card

"windows detect" audio plays when using the usb slots in the back

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>>58890585
>calls someone retarded for implying IPC is 4chan lingo
>DURR INTEL SHILL

Should I buy an rx 470 /g/? I have an old and shitty card that doesn't do nice things I want it to do anymore.

>>58890600
Just wait a few more months when last year's stuff begins to drop in price

>>58890599
>making up people that don't exist
wat?

>>58890600
Do you like BIIIG textures?
If yes Rx 470 8GB if no 4GB Rx 480

>>58890513
ive been here for 8 years, dont get too attatched, because sooner or later this place will become somewhere you no longer enjoy being.

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>>58890618

>>58890622
>Rx 470 8GB
>4GB Rx 480

>>58890643
But I don't enjoy anything already? There is just varying degrees of hatred and depression.

>>58890614
Yes I'm probably going to buy around May, but I figure nothing is really going to happen in the GPU market other than general price drops hence my question now.

>>58890622
I was looking at the Sapphire 4gb RX470. 8gb cards 2expensive4me and so is the RX480.

>>58890656
then leave, fill your time with something more worthy. youll be far better for it.

>>58890676
Too late. I'm here forever.

>>58890673
Ah well that's okay anyway the Rx 470 4GB is solid.

>>58890673
get a used 290x, if youre in the UK you can get one for the price of a 470 with 2 years warranty from Cex

>>58890688
Alright, thanks anon.

>>58890692
There's not a solid used GPU market in my country.

>>58890684
in the sense that youll pop back once every now and then for the rest of your life, sure, but you should never ever fucking let this place be your life.

>>58890701
Wait, there are losers here that never leave? Do they post pictures of the mentally challenged?

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Any suggestions for UPSes? Total system load is around 600W (450W PC, 150W dual monitors) and would like to be able to just shutdown safely in case of power failure.

Budget is $250.

>>58890711
Leaving? What are you, a fucking normalfag with a life? Fuck off.

Is there a meme monitor /g/ recommends?

>>58890711
i spent a year of my own life like that, never again

Is it worth upgrading from an i7 4790K/16GB/GTX 980 for photo editing? I've already, completely switched over to SSDs and it's been a massive improvement, but still thinking everything can go faster and smoother.

Also only play games casually, Skyrim is the only thing I've installed right now.

>>58890914
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe

>>58890923
professionally? probably yes. wait for ryzen before you upgrade tho.

>>58890923
>Is it worth upgrading
Entirely depends on how much you're willing to spend. Surely a new i7-x700 or higher with DDR4 will be an improvement.
Point is, if you have to choose between such an upgrade and other maybe more important investments, don't upgrade.
Your system is still very potent for productivity.
Also wait for Ryzen, you are a good candidate for an 8C16T Ryzen, they'll probably range from approx. $340-680.

>>58890983
Provided they benchmark at the promised quality. If they do compete with the 6900 (which is over $1000) it's going to probably result in price warring or intel releasing another model up.

If they don't? Price adjustments will probably be local to the level of the intel CPU it's at, just so intel can screw over AMD.

>>58889370
jesus fuck, compressed air is 2$

>>58890816
APC is excellent. My work uses them.

>>58891026
>not just buying a mini air-compressor
Air up your tires, too.

>>58888888
What a fucking waste, you faggot.

>>58891026
Removable dust filters bro.

>>58891024
>Provided they benchmark at the promised quality
Of course. No sane person will buy a CPU for 600 fucking bucks if it benches like shit.
>compete with the 6900
From the official AMD event is supposedly does, i know.. official event benchmarks and shit, but i doubt they'd lie.
If AMD doesn't deliver with Zen they are finished. They hyped Zen into the heavens and if they fail to deliver not only they'll lose a probably delicate amount of money from production, marketing and R&D, but which is even worse, goodwill and trustworthyness.
In the case is really fails imho AMD should just shut down it's CPU/APU market and focus on GPUs or focus on the budget market to compete with Pentiums and such.

>>58891110
Or just make it really cheap. That is their niche. They're, what, 15% of the market or something?

>>58891128
Even if they dump the prices, goodwill and trustworthyness will be damaged after their viral marketing.
They could try to compete in the i3 range since Intel doesn't offer anything worthwile themselves.
Imho 7th gen i3's aren't worth it like at all. G4560 is too good and the unlocked i3's OC like shit.

>>58891110
>>58891151
this

they cant afford another bulldozer

>>58891194
So it's a Last Hurrah, then? Good luck, AMD. We need the competition.

>>58891217
yup. their stock will be kill along with reputation, no coming back from that

>>58891194
>>58891128
They're making a killing with the gaming console market though. If anything, they would stick with the SoC CPU/APU market before anything else.

>>58891254
>a killing from consoles
no they're not

>>58891254
Nah, it's an incredibly low margin market that nvidia and Intel want nothing to do with. They don't even get any brand recognition out of it as they couldn't even manage to negotiate getting their logo displayed anywhere on the products or even mentioned on the box.

I need a small computer that will not break the bank but can still play online games and be used for watching movies on my TV. But I am in Australia and the choices are not as much and are more expensive.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JWWpNN

Any suggestions to reduce the cost of the built. I will be ordering the components this week.

Is there ever a reason to get a motheroard that isn't a z270 for gaming?

>>58891495
get this

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/8gKhP6/intel-pentium-g4560-35ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80677g4560

>>58891511
only reason not to get z270 is if you're in a shitty country that doesnt have z270 mobos for close to $100

>>58891495
Waaaaaay too expensive overall

>CPU Cooler
Not necessary
>16GB Ram
Not necessary
>Seagate 3TB
Christ do you really need that much? Also Seagate is known for being unreliable.
>GTX 1050 Ti
"Online games" "watching movies"
Your IGPU will suffice.
>$20 for a case fan
Granted Noctua is awesome but this along with all the above is just completely unnecessary.

>>58891495
>>58891558
Also Pentium G4560 instead of i3, forgot to add.

Literally the same thing only cheaper.

>>58891495
>>58891558
>>58891575
Actually if you're gonna be using your IGPU the G4600 works better, much faster IGPU.

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new thread: >>58891588
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>>58891558
i think he meant multiplayer games, not shitty browser games.

but i agree with the rest.

>>58891495
>ITX
>shitty aussie market
>not break the bank
lad... just import from california in a brown unmarked box marked as "gift"

>>58891495
It's shit. Get a G4560 + RX470 on B250 or H110/B150 if you can find boards with updated BIOS.

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I'm thinking of getting one of these old prebuilts with the i5-3470, stuffing my old GTX460 and an old pair of 2gb ram sticks inside for 8gb total, and using it for muh cnc programming.

Is this a decent use of $100?

Will I even be able to fit a graphics card inside the weird compact HP case?

Is that a fucking pcie parallel port? Will it work with Mach3?

>>58891745
yes.
low profile card or with a pci-e riser and ghetto-mod so it doesnt move around inside.
what?

>>58891802

Mach3 is CNC software that drives stepper motors through a parallel port. But it's a pit persnickety about the exact details of the parallel port timing, and usually won't work with ye olde PCI parallel ports. They sell special USB d But I've never really tried using a PCIE one before.

forgot my link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-6300-Desktop-Computer-4GB-RAM-Intel-Core-i5-3470-3-2GHz-NO-HDD-/322416512360?hash=item4b11858d68:g:fU0AAOSw6DtYTv8A

>>58891575
>>58891594
>>58891697
>>58891717
If I go with this, Will I be able to play Skyrim at 4K?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bWYxtJ

Thanks for the advice, I can buy the mouse that I wanted.

>>58891964
>4k with a pentium G
fuck no, not even close.

just wait until after ryzen release in march and see if it's any good before you buy

>>58891988
>>58891964
also
>4k with a rx 460
lolno

look up a fucking 4k benchmark u tard