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Previous Thread: >>58700658
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So my work decided to throw away a couple of Dell Optiplex 780 shitboxes that had Windows Vista. Being the poorfag that I am, I salvaged a couple of them that actually did turn on and POST. I'm Installing Ubuntu Mate right now, since the last time I used Ubuntu was about 10 years ago and Unity is shit.

I want to be a linux Wizard like my co-workers... How Do I start? How do I get rid of the fear of the CLI? I've been lurking this thread for only a couple days now.
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>>58713015
you see to be lost >>58712564
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It took me 3 days to dual boot linux mint alongside windows 10. The touchpad doesn't work at all and wifi breaks every 10 minutes. It even hangs sometimes. Why did I do it to myself.
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Anyone use onenote on Linux? Any advice/packages to make it easier? Thanks
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>>58713015
>I want to be a linux Wizard like my co-workers... How Do I start? How do I get rid of the fear of the CLI? I've been lurking this thread for only a couple days now.
It's very simple. Start with a good tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHFzr-akOas&list=PLS1QulWo1RIb9WVQGJ_vh-RQusbZgO_As

>>58713025
Go away Ali.
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>>58713033
you might be retarded
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>>58713069
Of course the problem lies in me. I am paying for not being a loyal Windows customer.
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>>58713015
Good start for newbies: http://linuxsurvival.com/linux-tutorial-introduction/
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You don't need NetworkManager to babysit you, all you need is wpa_supplicant, iw for discovering networks and dhcpcd (or dhclient) to acquire your IP address.
It's quite a simple config, here's how it looks᠎
network={
ssid="network1"
psk="pass1"
priority=3
}
network={
ssid="network2"
psk="pass2"
priority=2
}
network={
ssid="network3"
psk="pass3"
priority=2
}

The greater the priority integer is, the higher the prioity for that network is.
If networks have the same priority, wpa_supplicant connects to the one with the stronger signal.
If, say network3 and network2 are your friends' home and your home networks (respectively), and you're at your friends', when you get home wpa_supplicant will automatically disconnect you from network3 and connect
you to network2.
And maybe network1 is your phone's wifi hotspot (when you need a second IP for shitposting), because it has the highest priority you will connect to your phone's network first and when you turn off the hotspot,
you'll auto connect to your home network.
It won't auto connect you to a network of higher priority if you're already connected to a network of lower priority, so you'll need to restart the service for that.
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>>58713112 cont.
If you're using systemd, all you need to do is copy the systemd unit file from
/usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected]

to
/etc/systemd/system

and change this line
ExecStart=/usr/bin/wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant-%I.conf -i%I

to
ExecStart=/usr/bin/wpa_supplicant -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -i%I

because you'll probably use just that one config.
After that, enable wpa_supplicant service and the dhcpcd service like so
# systemctl enable wpa_supplicant@wlp3s0

# systemctl enable dhcpcd@wlp3s0

where wlp3s0 is my interface name, yours might be wlan0 for example, or something different.

You can always edit the config and restart the wpa_supplicant@<whatever> service as needed like so᠎
# systemctl restart wpa_supplicant@wlp3s0

if you want to add a new network, for example.

References
[1.] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_configuration
[2.] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration
[3.] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd
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>>58713112
>>58713121

what color ribbon do you want?
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>>58713121
for some reason dhcpcd is slow as fuck on my system, mainly I mean it's delaying my boot a lot
using systemd-networkd.service seems to be much better https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd-networkd
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I have a question about Sound output device names.

When I want to change the name of the output device, I see a huge string... something along the lines: "EMU10k2. ....... Analog Stereo"

is there a way to change that name to something I can actually remember or type out quickly?

Been googling for ALSA and conf files but was unable to find anything.

Anyone know how to rename it or change the alias?
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>>58713169
Thats the name of your device,what more do you expect?
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>>58713112
Nice pasta.Question though,how to network discovery? This example is a major pain in the ass for anything but a home network.
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>using the systemd botnet
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>>58713153
I do use systemd's core features because I have it on my system, but I try not to depend too much on it.
Although it does take a second for dhcpcd to start, so I'll see how systemd-networkd compares.
dhclient is always a good alternative too.
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you guys can call me a retard all you want, but know that i will always love you and I will always love GNU/Linux
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>>58713169
bulseadiu :DDDDDDDDD
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>>58713191
>Thats the name of your device,what more do you expect?
Yeah, but what's strange is that in different Linux distributions, the names are different. I now run Arch mostly but I also have Ubuntu installed. Name for the same audio card in Ubuntu is much shorter. Arch one is huge. So clearly, there must be a way to change it or customize it.

I just can't figure out how... I think ALSA sets the name (and not PulseAudio) but I have no idea where...
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>>58713278
kek. look at these...
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>>58713015
>1310MiB
Is Ubuntu this bad now?
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>>58713203
Use iw.
# iw dev <interface name> scan

It's best to pipe the output to less because there's a lot of text like so
# iw dev <interface name> scan | less

or just grep SSID's if that's all that interests you
# iw dev <interface name> scan | grep SSID


Also, wpa_supplicant comes with wpa_cli, which is a tool that can do network discovery, although I havent used it.
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>>58713326
Look at the number of packages. He must have installed a ton of shit.

MATE + Ubuntu isn't huge at all.
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>>58713112
>You don't need NetworkManager to babysit you
But NM is so damn comfy in Cinnamon & GNOME. You can switch between interfaces with a click and even has support for VPNs.

Why on earth would you want to manage that shit through the command line when you can do it with a click?
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Out of the blue both screens are tearing.
Using compton or compiz makes the problem even worse.Where else do i look?
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>>58713473
DE, graphics driver?
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>>58713503
fluxbox
nvidia
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https://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/fridays-us-executive-order-immigration

poo.init
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I'll create a partition and do everything tomorrow, when I'm on break.

Can a Bishop cast Benediction on me pl0x?
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>>58713506
 glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"


what does it say?
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>>58713556
i can use clairvoyance
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>>58713562
direct rendering: Yes
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>>58713421
>spam
spam is against 4chan rules. >>>/global/rules/10
do what the rules say, folks, and get rid of this crap.
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>>58713576
>>spam
spam is against 4chan rules. >>>/global/rules/10
do what the rules say, folks, and get rid of this crap.
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>>58713573
Try:

 nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }"
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>>58713572
Thank you, father.
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>>58713435
Some people don't use GNOME, Cinnamon or any DE for that matter.
It's not like there's a lot to manage when you're done setting it up.
The only "management" you need to do is editing networks in wpa_supplicant.conf.
You shouldn't be dependant on one piece of software.
Reducing complexity reduces potential problems and if they do occur, it makes them easier to diagnose.
Also, you can conserve battery charge by not running xorg and staying in a tty (if you're programming or doing something else that doesn't require xorg).
There's no nm-applet in a tty, so you'll need to use the command line.
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>>58713349
uhh I only installed Numix...
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>>58713599
Maybe so but the issue is that your complexity will increase once you plug in ethernet cable or connect to a VPN. you'll get lost in all these conf files.
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>>58713590
Problem persists
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>>58713622
Try nvidia binary drivers. If that doesn't work.. welll.. whatever you've done, you've fucked it up good. Hope you have a backup to roll-back changes.
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>>58713632
I am using the blob.System hasent been updated in 22 days, i havent touched any configs in the system or locally for the user
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>>58713646
Hmm.. checked the temps on your graphics card?

If you haven't changed any settings and it has worked before, and if reboot doesn't fix thing.. well, then you HW must be fucked. I don't see what else it could be.
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>>58713616
I don't know for VPN, but for ethernet you just stop the wpa_supplicant@<wifi interface> and dhcpcd@<wifi interface>, raise your ethernet interface and start dhcpcd@<eth interface>.
If you're gonna be using ethernet for a while, disable those services that you stop and enable dhcpcd@<eth interface>.
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>>58713677
network manager is convenient and isn't really a bloat
it's good to do it manually at first, to learn how shit works
but there is no reason to make everything harder for yourself, I you switch network often, and use wifi/vpn then get network manager and save yourself some time
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>>58713677
See what I mean? Complexity just shoots through the roof. And you also have to worry about chaining interfaces. tun0 --> eth0 or wl0... NM does all that shit for you. It's kinda hard not to take advantage of that convenience.
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>>58713698
I'm wasting as much time as I would with NetworkManager.
>>58713716
>typing is hard
All that would take you less than about 30 sec.

You can get by without NetworkManager just as easily.
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>>58713782
>having a vendetta against a piece of software
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>>58713782
>All that would take you less than about 30 sec.
30 second of my life every time I change settings (which I do dozens of times a day) for exactly ZERO BENEFITS.

>You can get by without NetworkManager just as easily.
You just proved you don't.

You seem to have an irrational hate for some software that works perfectly for 99.999% of users. Get some meds for your autism.
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The default volume control in MATE doesn't play nice with bluetooth, so I have to use pulse audio volume control instead. However the standard volume control icon is hanging around in the notification area and I can't get rid of it. I've been searching for a while now and there doesn't seem to be any way to easily edit what shows up in the notification area. I tried using dconf-editor to see if I could find something but came up with nothing. I'm using mate-1.16.0_1
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>GNOME and KDE used to run on multiple operating systems including *BSD's and even Windows.
>Now they won't be able to run on different distros because of systemd dependence.
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>>58714157
>Now they won't be able to run on different distros because of systemd dependence.
lol have you used plasma before?
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>>58714180
we're getting there, anon
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>>58714157
fork it
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>>58714194
guess not then. Plasma runs like butter on openrc and nouveau. crunchy peanut butter if you like nvidia drivers
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>>58714157
why is systemd attempting a hostile takeover of loonics
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How am I meant to install a bootloader for Arch? I'm booting off the CD and have done everything in install guide but nothing on how to install a bootloader
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>>58714240
Red Hat CIA niggers
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>>58714243
You're lying.
l2read
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>>58714273
>See Category:Boot loaders for available choices and configurations

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Installation
>Install the grub package.

That's it.
Why the would I be lying about this?
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>>58714286
Do you know what sub sections are?
You're lying and/or retarded
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>>58714286
>>>/u/buntu
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>>58714292
kys
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>>58714302
>cant read
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>>58714286
you using mbr or uefi? also grub or lilo?
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>>58714302
>asking for help (spoonfeeding)
>tells the person to khs
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Ok, I am getting this problem in a fresh arch installation in virtualbox. I first tried to solve it by commenting out all the servers except one in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, and that didn't fix the issue, so I tried adding
nameserver = 8.8.8.8
nameserver = 8.8.4.4

in /etc/resolv.conf , and that didn't solve it. I got less errors than before when I commented out the the mirrors, but I still get these errors from the one mirror I don't have commented out. I also tried another mirror, but same shit happened. What do?
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>>58714317
learn to read retard
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>>58714317
>using google dns
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>>58713340
Thanks,very useful!
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>>58713948
>>58713948
>>58713948

Bumping this post and also assigning it to Thread Priority 1 (TP1), all available posters itt must answer to the best of their knowledge. gentoo and gentoo related replies will be forwarded to fglt administration for punishment.
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>>58714347
back when fglt wasn't full of archbabbies
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>>58714317
Do you even have a connection up? try ping 8.8.8.8 and ping www.google.com

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation#Connect_to_the_Internet
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What's the least resource intensive thing I can use to drag and drop thumbnail pictures on firefox?

Best thing I could find so far was spacefm
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I love both Unix and GNU is Not Unix
is there something wrong with me gee?
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>>58714365
a gui filemanager
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>>58714364
Oh shit mayn, I am dumb. I just thought that because I have a wired connection I am connected.
>>58714333
>friendly
no bully senpai
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>>58714389
You skipped setting up a connection for the installation in the chroot phase. Live CD sets it up automatically but that doesn't carry over
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I can remember getting the
fixme:wininet:create_cache_entry INTERNET_FLAG_NEED_FILE is not supported correctly
error while using WINE before, but I can't remember what I did to fix it. Do you?
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>>58714410
no
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>>58714410
yes
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>>58714410
maybe
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>>58714410
have you tried using microsofts' wininet?
winetricks wininet
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>>58714409
alright man, got it all set up. I ended up needing to load the driver and then used dhcpcd to get connected. thanks famalam
>>
What's the difference between TTY and the command line
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parole-0.8.1_2 (remove) breaks installed pkg `xfce4-4.12.0_5'
Transaction aborted due to unresolved dependencies.

what
how does this shitty media player break my entire enviornment
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Just reading about Linus laying the smackdown on systemd devs a few years back. He seems like a bit of a dick but also a bulwark against all the retarded shit that goes on with the kernel development. What will we do when Linus is kill?
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Any logfile masters around?

I have a program that has an option in conf file to write to a log file. Option in conf file looks something like...
log-file=/var/log/activity.log 


Problem is that the log gets big fast. It dumps 10MB of data per hour (it's a web service monitor).

Since I never look at old data and just want to filter some data out, is there a way to write the data to RAM, for example, so it bypasses the disk completely?

How would I go about doing that?
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>>58714744
>What will we do when Linus is kill?
Have several different forks, each with even more bullshit regardless.
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>>58714824
tmpfs
make a mountpoint that goes to ram
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Ok, I tried to install sddm on my arch vm so i can use xfce, and I enabled it, but now when I boot up I get the the message
 SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr 
. I looked this up and I found a post on the ubuntu forums saying to disable nested paging in virtualbox, and I did that, but it didn't fix anything. Any tips?
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Hello everyone.
I'm working on creating a system which strictly follows the suckless.org/UNIX philosophy. I'm using my base as Debian GNU/Linux (Although some people would argue that Debian is suck), and I'm working on replacing quite a few things in this project. So far, I've done the following:

1) Setup a basic environment using just the suckless.org utils (dwm, dmenu, surf)
2) Completely remove systemd as the init system, and use sysvinit instead.

My further goals at the moment include removing the GNU coreutils (I guess it wouldn't be fair to call it GNU/Linux anymore after that...) I plan to replace the coreutils with busybox. I guess I could do that with quite a few shitty symlinks.

I've looked into the busybox documentation and it seems wonderful for this purpose. If you happen to have a better idea for replacing the coreutils, please let me know.

The second thing that I want to do is remove the incredibly bloated and harmful GRUB boot loader from the base. LiLO seems to follow the UNIX/Suckless philosophy, so I choose that as GRUB's replacement. Does anyone happen to know where I could locate the documentation for LiLO? It looks like it was adopted by a kind person from the Debian project who calls themselves "alioth", and I find some documentation hosted here: https://lilo.alioth.debian.org/olddoc/html/user_21-5.html#x1-20001

Is this the correct and latest-up-to-date documentation? I'd like to be well versed in all things in my system for when I release this operating system, so it is important that I have the most up-to-date documentation.

Thank you for reading this long-winded post.

-Suckless Anon
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>>58712941

If what Julian Assange said was try about Debian doesn't that mean that all Linux distros that depend on the same packages are compromised? Have any of you considers that no OS is safe because the feds have developers planted in every project that add vulnerabilities that just go un noticed?
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>>58714890
I should note that after the message pops up, I just get a blinking cursor, I don't even get a login screen.
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>>58714901
Nah, I wouldn't worry about Assange's comments on Debian.

If you're paranoid, use OpenBSD. Every LOC is audited. Every singe one.

As an alternative use that one distro where everything is compiled against musl libc and uses busybox. It's supposed to be quite secure.
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>>58714893
>1) Setup a basic environment using just the suckless.org utils (dwm, dmenu, surf)
Sounds like you're just about set, all you need to do now is spend your days whining on the internet about modern software and you'll be adhering perfectly to the suckless philosophy!
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>tfw fixed all my screen tearing issued editing amd config file rather than installing compton

what a great feelerino friendly gnu is not unix/linux thread
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>>58714901
unless you write your own code and/or audit every line of code you plan on using you are going to have to trust others. Even then who fucking knows what hardware manufacturers are doing nowdays it's literally impossible to be 100% certain NSA isn't spying.
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>>58714901
it's possible. way to protect yourself is to use layered security so if one part is compromised, you make it harder to break through to it.

>>58714922
>OpenBSD
same shit was said about OpenBSD and how FBI compromised it.
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>>58714926
Funny humor!

It's mostly a "fun" project. An added benefit is that if I can make it run as I desire, it'll be able to run on the shittiest of computers. Just think about it; I can help all those kids in Uganda learn to use Vim!
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>>58714948


How would they have compromised a BSD distro though? Don't the BSD devs work long term? and isn't there only a fraction of them per dirstro compared to Linux? Do any of you remember when the key for the new Linux kernel didn't match Linus' backup hash? The more I think about it the more I think the NSA has Linux and *BSD by the balls and nobody knows it yet.
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do I need a file manager if I'm already gud at coreutils?
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which distro should I put on my thinkpad? I have ubuntu mate on it right now and its been about a month, but I feel like it is too babby-tier, no offense to any users. I am split between debian or arch. All I really do is shitpost, watch anime/read manga, and write ruby and c programs. I know for a fact that I can install debian easily on a desktop and laptop, but I've never installed arch outside of a vm, and I always seem to have trouble getting shit to werk in arch, at leas at the beginning. Still, I want to push myself, and I don't mind trying new stuff, so which one do you guys recommend, debian or arch?
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>>58715015
Install PCManFM. If you ever need it, you can use it. It's also lightweight.
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>>58715006
>How would they have compromised a BSD distro though?
Apparently, some OpenBSD dev secretly worked for the FBI.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/openbsd_backdoor_claim/

Who the fuck knows.. I say this is nothing more than bullshit.

All OSes could be backdoored. Some claim Debian is/was backdoored. There was a serious key generation bug in there which might have been planted by the NSA. Who knows.

if you can't trust open source, then closed source is probably 10x worse wrt privacy and security.
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>>58715016
Go for Debian. If you want edginess use Testing (note: not stretch. stretch is now frozen)

If you really want to push yourself, use Sid. But be prepared for Mr Bug's Wild Ride.
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>>58714951
>Just think about it; I can help all those kids in Uganda learn to use Vim!
Don't forget to crowdfund a half-arsed (nearly) libre laptop for it to run on!

As to your actual plans, I don't have much experience with most of what you plan on doing but it seems sound to me. I doubt anything has been done to LiLO in a long time that would justify changing the documentation, so I'd assume that your link is up to date just on the basis of that.

Have you had a look at stali? It sounds like you'd probably be better off trying to get dwm working under it.

>>58715016
If you're struggling to get Arch up and running, Antergos or Manjaro should both give you a working system with as little headache as anything else. If you want up to date software on Debian you'll be stuck with testing, though at that point its a toss-up with Arch as to what's more stable anyway.
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>>58715215
I've been looking at gentoo's documentation on it. Seems sound, however, it's a really outdated piece of software. It still calls /dev/hda. Luckily that's as easy as a config file change.

dwm works under stali to the best of my knowledge. You could say that I'm attempting to hack Debian into stali. (for its community and software repos)
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Does Linux detect windows shortcut folders?
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I have a really weird issue with Linux distros not working on Ethernet but working fine with Wireless.

Basically I have an ASUS motherboard and have been trying to get the DHCP working with this in Linux with no success for months now. The weird part is that Windows will get DHCP just fine. All of my Debian 8 network config is the default and I have try tried to factory reset my router again. The only thing that comes up on Google is: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157969/dhcp-not-working-on-new-install

Could it really be that using an ASUS motherboard has fucked my Linux install?
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>>58715508
ayo hol up

Did you take an older hard disk and attach it to your new mobo?
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>>58715556

Yeah the HDD is an old one from my laptop. I thought of old meta data also though and wiped it clean before installing. The issue even happens with live CDs.

Also the Ethernet was working fine up until a few months ago. I've had this Debian install for at least 2 years now. All of a sudden though its like Linux and BSD don't support my Ethernet.
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>>58715623
Weird.. Debian's livecds don't include nonfree drivers. What Ethernet adapter are you using?
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I was surprised at how easy the upgrade from 32bit to 64bit was on Arch.
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>>58715229
>dwm works under stali to the best of my knowledge.
Looks like I misinterprereted their ""wiki,"" maybe I'll have another play around with it then.

>You could say that I'm attempting to hack Debian into stali. (for its community and software repos)
It feels to me like you'd be putting in a lot of effort to take a low level system that at least is stable for a good variety of platforms even some individual components are conflated, and replace it with options that might be simpler and as such better designed, but won't offer any practical value except perhaps to maintainers. To a user it's all still going to be Debian, and for the most part I don't see users enjoying any practical realisation of the suckless philosophy any more so than they could in ordinary Debian. That said I'm no huge fan of the philosophy beyond simple programming anyway.
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>>58715654
The end user gets stali and the suckless philosophy plus all the Debian packages. That is my vision.
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>>58715637

Here are my two internet devices. Like I said the Ethernet used to work on this machine which is why it's so puzzling.

(22:48:39 on master )──> lspci | egrep -i --color 'network|ethernet'
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-V (rev 05)
04:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
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Holy Shit I love NixOS now
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>>58713810
Dozens? Maybe reign in your ADD before you go accusing anyone else of mental illness.
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>>58715637

Looking online a bit more it looks like there are dozens of issues with the e1000e drivers not being supported on any Linux now. I think I may have to just buy a newer Ethernet card because the drivers from intel are for a 2.x.x kernel. :(
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>What distro are you currently using daily?

>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?

>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?

>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?

>Free or nonfree?

>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?

>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?
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When i use compton fading with i3 when I change workspaces it shows the wallpaper and then the windows fade in. Is there a way to fade directly into the windows?
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>>58716065
Arch
I3, I usually just use it as a tiling manager so I never see a desktop anyway
I would like Gentoo but portage is just annoying compared to pacman. Fedora looks interesting but I've never used rpm.
I used to disto hop a lot, went ubuntu>mint>debian>arch, not spending long on each one.
I don't care about free software that much. Best thing about debian is their policy on free software, which only someone as autistic as stallman could object to.
I can only fix very few things myself. I've used it for school but it makes me feel autistic when something doesn't werk in front of the class. I'll probably move to something that werks more on my laptop.

At the end of the day, there's barely any difference between the distros.
The only thing that can't be easily changed is package manager and init system.
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Should I install pulseaudio? What does it do?
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>>58716065
>What distro are you currently using daily?
Arch
>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?
openbox, wanna change to i3/awesome but too lazy right now
>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?
arch if not for systemd and some minor issues
>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?
I started on mint, moved to arch pretty fast and been with it ever since
>Free or nonfree?
free if possible, don't be a freetard though
>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?
I used to bumble, but quickly realized that it's better to learn how things work from bottom up
>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?
NEET
>>
>spend literally a day trying to get arch sound working
>Try shitloads of solutions and config file edits, ask here, on IRC and on forums
>Install pulseaudio
>Instantly werks
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>>58716227
Sure. Its typically used as sound mixer (inputs->outputs with amplification etc in between). But it can do a bunch more.
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is it possible to fully encrypt my main partition after having completed installing the distro? i mean i'm sure it is, but i've only ever set up fde when it was an option during install.
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>>58716274
PA helps in a lot of situations, but IDK how you didn't manage to get alsa or even that exotic OSS4 to work.
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>>58716297
Yea but not easily or with other methods only with another FS "on top". Better do it backup/restore style, less risk of data loss, and you can do it the way your distro prefers.
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>>58716065
>What distro are you currently using daily?
>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?
I'm current using LTS Ubuntu since I need to work with ROS which bests supports Ubuntu and I needed to reinstall when I was starting with it anyway so that's what I went with. The lack of up to date software is really the main downside, especially coming from Arch.

>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?
i3 for being productive, LXQT for comfy.

>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?
I used to, but I'm sort of settled on Manjaro as my favourite, though I still need to try Antergos at some point.

>Free or nonfree?
Nonfree. As much as I like the idea, staying completely free is a nuisance when you have broadcom wireless.

>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?
I know my way around now but I certainly broke a couple installs along the way by fucking around stupidly and trying every possible solution I found.
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What is arch Hardened? Should I use it?
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>>58716065
>What distro are you currently using daily?
Antergos
>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?
Openbox
>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?
I'm actually looking to switch to something, not sure to which though
>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?
Yup
>Free or nonfree?
I do appreciate free, but not to the extent of being autistic about it though
>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?
Mostly still google things, but I'm getting better at solving problems myself
>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?
My work doesn't require a computer at all, so not really relevant in my case.
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>>58716342
darn
it wasn't anywhere in the install process, so maybe i'll just have to find a new distro. thanks though
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>>58716065
Gentoo
Awesome
Many. Most package managers have too few power user CLI options. Too often you can't easily influence the resolver or staging on a package.
No.
Mixed.
Sure, but of course I need Google at times.
No.
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Is it possible to get image tagging on linux like how it is done in macOS?
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>>58716394

Most distros that are not Ubuntu will expect you to do a chroot install if you want LUKS + LVM. I know Debian has a gui installer that will do it though.
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>>58716065
>What distro are you currently using daily?
>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?
void with mate

>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?
ubuntu just werked but I don't think canonical can be trusted. also upstart.

>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?
void is the holy grail for me. rolling release, still stable, no systemd. Other distros I've tried require too much tinkering around like gentoo

>Free or nonfree?
I don't know how anyone can get any meaningful work done with a purely free computer unless you specifically buy hardware that has the best support. Nonfree for sure

>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?
I know nothing but i rarely try to do anything too advanced anyway so it's fine.
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>>58716431
Some file managers supported it at times.

But honestly, try Hydrus. It's not integrated in the file manager but the cool thing about that one is that you canuse tags from giant repositories of tags so you don't have to do it all yourself:

https://github.com/hydrusnetwork/hydrus/releases
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>>58716454
compare void vs. arch?
besides systemd
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>>58716495
I haven't used arch. I don't like the idea of systemd. Plus arch still requires a fair bit of manual config no matter how well documented. Aside from making sure your services are running void just werks.
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>>58716495
pacman is better than xbps imo, plus you get the aur, but void has been totally stable for me,
>>
Yaourt or pacaur?
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>>58716394
Might be prudent.

You certainly could still DIY but it could be an annoying downtime if you eventually update your system, it break the required setup because they didn't think you used encryption, and kinda don't remember entirely how you did it back then.
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>>58716564
pacaur objectively better
>>
Have a T420 coming in, what should I put on it? Have minimal GNU/Linux experience (Puppy and Xubuntu as my main OS a couple of years back)
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>>58716676
bunsenlabs could be fun
>>
ive been playing with solus for a bit and it seems neat, why do people hate it again?
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>>58716684
>bunsenlabs
Is that like community driven #!?
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>>58716676
Xubuntu is going to work about as well as anything if you were happy with it in the past. If you want to experiment then get a meme distro like Arch.
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>>58716693
fuck off, kevin
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>>58716065
>What distro are you currently using daily?
>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?
Fedora 25 WS with GNOME on XOrg. Recent installation of Nvidia drivers from negativo17's repo is surprisingly fine, but it seems the driver does not go well with Wayland so that I have to fallback to XOrg.

>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?
>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?
Fedora is what I wanted, but if I have lots of spare SSDs/USB3 sticks and time I would like to also try openSUSE and Ubuntu GNOME.
And I do not distro hop for now. I have a job now and I just hop from Windows 7 to Linux.

>Free or nonfree?
Technically doesn't matter, I just care whether it works. If you talk about whether I need to pay... well someday I will find a software that I am willing to pay for.

>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?
As a motherfucking Linux beginner I rely very much on Google. And I believe no one can ACTUALLY be Google free to solve problem 'cause things go complex nowadays.

>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?
Windows 7 for work. My company is as lazy as any non IT/computer related company.
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Is enabling bash on windows potentially making my computer more secure?
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>>58716676
I often go with Sabayon. Their and Gentoo's tooling makes a lot of sense.

But I guess most people these days go with like, Mint or OpenSuse.
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>>58716806
less secure*
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>>58716806
Uh, no? Why would it.

Disabling the administration account except through su on BASH might do something, but it's not actually workable. 'cause Windows isn't really Linux even when you stick BASH on it.
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>>58716822
sorry i meant less secure
because i heard linux had some security flaws or something
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>>58716818
I don't think so, but who knows.

Just pretend everything you're running or installing opens a security hole on Windows. It's close enough.
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>>58716696
yeah, it;s a continuation. there's also crunchbang++, but that is p old i think
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>>58716833
> because i heard linux had some security flaws or something
You can make security as lax as it typically is on Windows... but generally speaking? No. It's extremely secure.

They run extremely juicy for criminals targets like stock markets and payment platforms off Linux.

There are no widely known vulnerabilities that stay open for like half a year or a year as happened on Windows regularly (and kinda still happens). And many distros are configured more securely by default than the average Windows installation is.

Plus again: Putting Cygwin or BASH or whatever on Windows doesn't make Windows Linux. It's still Windows. Even if you run a full Linux VM under Windows, it's still Windows outside that VM.
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>What distro are you currently using daily?

Gentoo

>What DE, if any? If not what do you use?

Xfce4

>What distro would you like if not for a few certain issues?

Debian - because of old packages

>Are you still distro hopping, do you try new distros all the time?

No

>Free or nonfree?
Free

>Do you actually know how to fix problems or do you just bumble through using google to solve everything?

I know it.

>Do you have to use a certain distro for work or school? How is it?

No.
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BEST PDF reader?


* Should be simple
* Should be efficient
* Will be used extensively for highlighting and noting.
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>>58717156
firefox
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>>58717156
The last requirement means it's not going to be a "simple" PDF viewer because it needs to do something that PDF itself doesn't even really support.

Maybe Okular or Xournal? I think a bunch of the proprietary cross-platform viewer-editors also support it.
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>>58717156
>best
The one I'm using.
>pdf reader
I use mupdf, because it can also read epubs and sucks less.
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>>58717156
less(1) masterrace
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>>58717215
>The last requirement means it's not going to be a "simple" PDF viewer because it needs to do something that PDF itself doesn't even really support.

Good point. You are right.

Keen to avoid something ultra chunky -- just came off an old PC marred by slowness.

Should be, "as simple as possibly while still supporting extensive highlighting and noting."

Epub support (though not a requirement) would actually be a plus as well!
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>>58717156
>BEST PDF reader?
This is the best PDF reader/editor for Linux.

Unfortunately, it's not open source but it's free for non-commercial use. I've been using this for a year and it has saved my ass so many times. It's got the best annotations and drawing/highlighting capabilities I've come across and it's super-fast.

https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/#thinkupshortcodesthinkup_builder_tabs-1

Could some Arch master add this to AUR so I don't have to check every few weeks for updates??

Anyway, pic related...
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>>58717470
Well, I'd try Okular. Probably will work for some stuff.

You can define a sidebar with annotation methods you like (squiggly underline in pink and green highlight or whatever) and draw.

Should work okay in most cases. Epub and other things are supported as well if the distro maintainers compiled in support for it.
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in cli torrent clients, can i add torrent by just typing like:
torrentclientname magnet:adsjjaksdjak

at make the download start at that moment?
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>>58717782
deluge works pretty much like that, with having a daemon in background ofc
>>
>>58717782
Yup, can be done.

Some like aria2 even allow simultaneous downloads off torrent and HTTP and stuff. (Mostly something you'll encounter for like, linux distro images).
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>>58717792
fuck deluge man, i dont get it what is problem with that shitty app
When i try to download something with it, max speed is like 5 KiB
>no limit set, max connections set to 100 100 everything is ok
same settings on qbit i get real downloading with real max speed of my internet
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>>58717826
on the other hand qbit likes to make a torrent S T A L L E D even though there are enough seeds and no reason not to download
rtorrent is propably the only good torrent client, but I'm always to lazy to try it
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>>58717792
Basically every CLI capable client does that. Even the Java-based Vuze and such.

Most GUI clients also can be invoked that way, of course they won't stay on the CLI...
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>>58717842
If there are enough seeds you probably have incorrectly forwarded ports on your router or something.

qBittorrent is reliable and even Deluge isn't that buggy anymore.
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>>58717842
yes i know that, that happens after some usage but usually when i have like 100/200 torrents in client
>>
Why would anyone use poobit or deluge when transmission is available?
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>>58717854
200 torrents is not much. This shouldn't happen on qBittorrent. (Then again, you could try Vuze for an experiment - it's quite fat, but you can usually throw tens of thousands of torrents at it and it'll not explode).

I remember past versions of Deluge couldn't handle more than a bunch of smaller torrents though.
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>>58717842
qbittorrent will stall as much as anything else, it just says stalled instead of otherwise. Though by default the maximum number of connections is pretty low so that in particular will make it seem like it's stalling for no reason.
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>>58717853
I swear I want to punch you in your fucking stupid bitch face so you do a 360 and maybe something will finaly click in your brain

It's a legitimate bug with qbittorrent which exist since forever, exists both on windows and linux, and despite tries it has never been fixed

no other torrent client has those problems, of course we assume the same settings, ports etc.

how can my ports be incorrectly forwarded you stupid fucking piece of shit nigger if I have another torrent that downloads happily (doesn't take 100% of bandwidth) at the same time?
why do we have to write down the same post every fucking time because some shitbrain retard shill like you will always claim that everything works beatifuly and it MUST be something on our end
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>>58717910
Find me the same kind of thread on any other torrent client's site:
https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/947

I FUCKING DARE YOU
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>>58717920
> It's a legitimate bug with qbittorrent which exist since forever, exists both on windows and linux, and despite tries it has never been fixed
Never had it on either OS. So that doesn't check out. Probably just shitty or misconfigured networking equipment.

> how can my ports be incorrectly forwarded you stupid fucking piece of shit nigger if I have another torrent that downloads happily (doesn't take 100% of bandwidth) at the same time?
Maybe because you don't have it configured with the same ports. They don't tend to default to the same ones when you start them.
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>>58717966
>Probably just shitty or misconfigured networking equipment.
kill yourself
>Maybe because you don't have it configured with the same ports. They don't tend to default to the same ones when you start them.
kill yourself
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>>58717929
>Errors with Win7 needing admin that are long patched
>Fuckwits who don't understand torrenting and expect their client to pull seeds out of nowhere just because the tracker said they existed
There's legitimate errors from early in development but they're long since gone. But you should have been able to figure that out from how inactive that thread is now. How desperate are you to hold onto this shitty meme?
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>>58712941
need a linux (fedora) friendly printer on amazon uk anyone know of one?
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>>58717991
using a Brother MFC-8380DN, works like a charm (the scanner, too)
although it's a large-ass printer so probably overkill for your needs
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>>58717973
Again, no such stalls here.

Killing yourself is your duty, if anything. It removes one problem.
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>>58718004
please use a trip so I can ignore you
you are triggering me
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>>58718020
That's absolutely your own problem, including blowing up over normal suggestions.

Almost no one else seems to have this problem, so it's probably on your end. Such >>58717826 things, too.
>>
Is Xubuntu a good platform to start learning on?
>>
>>58718335
yes
>>
>>58718335
Sure. If you want to experiment with different programs a bit Ubuntu might limit you, but I think up till that point stability is probably just as important.
>>
any way to make this less retarded?

working()
{
while [ -d /proc/$1 ]
do
echo -ne "w \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "wo \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "wor \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "work \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "worki \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "workin \b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne "working\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " orking\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " rking\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " king\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " ing\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " ng\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
echo -ne " g\b\b\b\b\b\b\b";sleep .08;
done
}
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>>58718379
what the fuck is this shit
>>
>>58718379
>>58718391

oh, usage like this:
sleep 10 & working $!
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>>58718379
Alway quote variables.
>>
Why won't me GRUB resolution change?

I've changed GRUB_GFXMODE and set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep as per many online tutorials and it has no effect. I have sucessfully changed the countdown time however.
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>>58718379
I'd use printf and \r.
Pretty cool idea, btw.
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>>58718359
I don't think it really will limit anon much. The programs are mostly there. It's not like people *generally* want to tinker with all the compile-time options, else we'd all run Gentoo.
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>>58718379
You could have a string which is the complete/middle state, then swap back and forth between a loop that iterates through copying each char across, then another loop that goes back and replaces with spaces instead. That'd be a more proper way of doing it, though probably not much more or less practical now you've already written that.
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>>58718413
Usually you change /etc/defaults/grub like that AND THEN also run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to generate the new configuration grub2 actually uses.

Some distros use "grub2" in that name or other variants, but the point is, maybe you didn't generate that new configuration?
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>>58718379
that's retarded programming, breh
generate the animation dynamically, so you can use whatever word instead of just "working"
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>>58718433
>>58718419
>>58718414
>>58718402
>>58718391
thanks for the input
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>>58718424
PS: Another mistake you might have made is not mount /boot first if it's on a different partition or [sub-]volume.
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>>58718416
My problems I've had getting specific programs on Xubuntu have been a fair bit less ambitious than that. Just shit like trying to get Wine installed has given me issues like apt not wanting automatically resolve i386 dependencies like pic related. For the most part I'm probably just spoilt having come from Arch though.
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Been bored.
interject() {
str="I'd just like to interject for a moment ..."
while [ -d "/proc/$1" ]; do
for ((i=0; i<${#str}; i++)); do
printf -- '%s' "${str:$i:1}"
sleep .08
done
printf '\e[1K\r'
done
}

sleep 10 & interject $!
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>>58718538
ebin, thanks
>>
In Windows I used Visual Studio (C++) and WinGHCI (Haskell).

I believe VS has a Linux installer, but WinGHCI doesn't.

Can anyone recommend an alternative?
>>
>>58718564
grow up and use vim or emacs and program in C
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>>58718577
Well meme'd friend.

I use both of them for Uni.

I work with Java and I already installed NetBeans :^)
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>>58718503
I guess you have a point, apt can occasionally do something like that. Aptitude helps a bit with the alternative resolutions.

Then again, pacman also murdered itself during upgrades, had insane resolutions, and so on before. Plus it has very odd syntax if you ask me, it couldn't just be "install/uninstall" or something.

But I'm probably just spoilt by having used Sabayon's equo, eh.
>>
>>58712941
I want nice looking KDE apps but not the whole Plasma desktop.

Can I install something like Kubuntu and i3, log out start an i3 session and still have low RAM usage of i3?

I've always wondered how that worked, does whole DE still start in the background or is it only just i3?
>>
>>58718564
There are various good C++ IDE but they're not Microsoft's. Codelite, Codeblocks, IDEA, Eclipse with CDT, Netbeans, Kdevelop, QT Creator... and many more.
Or just (Neo)VIM or EMACS and the console if you prefer.

Many of them support LLVM/clang which I personally like.

Haskell also has a few IDE and editor options, but again not WinGHCI.

Substitute, eh.
>>
>>58718424
>>58718456
I ran sudo update-grub to generate the config worked just fine, that's why I mentioned that I managed to change the countdown, that seems to me that its something not config related?

Still no on the mounting, I have about as basic a disk setup as possible.

I always love Linux until something that seems simple takes you three days to fix.
>>
What's the state of switchable graphics in Linux so far? I have a laptop with Intel HD3000 and AMD Radeon HD 6490M. Will I be in a world of pain if I switch to Linux?
>>
>>58718601
KDE doesn't even have that much RAM usage, usually.

But yea you can use KDE applications on other desktops.
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>>58718653
>>58718657
GNU/Linux*
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>>58718379
I threw together a quick solution in python.

import time

statelist = []

statelist.append("work")
statelist.append(" ")
current=list("NNNN")
state=0

while 1:
for i in range(0,4):
current[i]=statelist[state][i]
print(current)
time.sleep(0.8)
state = ~state

Output isn't perfect just because python a shit and I had to use a list instead of a string.
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>>58718648
The only problem is that I believe I need VS because the university has a framework that the students need to use to test their shit
>>
>>58718653
I don't know update-grub. Must be something specific to your distro.

Can't tell you if it's config related either, but grub2 has a command line on boot in which you can poke around and, for instance, see which possible graphics modes it detected.
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>>58718667
>>58718538
>>58718379
>>>/g/dpt/
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>>58718668
Wait, you don't just submit code to "test shit"?

Anyhow once you need VS and .NET and other ultimately Windows centric stuff, you're usually back on a Windows VM.
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>>58718685
>implying programs for GNU/Linux aren't GNU/Linux related

>>58718667
>>58718538
thank u2
>>
>>58718685
>I can't program, the post
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>>58718686
you submit it once it's done or you ran out of time

but they tell you to do something, like a stack and the framework has like 300 tests to see if you fucked up

the tests output to a text file detailing each passed or failed case

it's pretty great desu
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>>58718379
Bash isn't really the language I would normally use for this type of thing, but here you go:
working()
{
text="working"
len=${#text}
i=0

# Make cursor invisible
trap 'tput cnorm' EXIT
tput civis

while [ -d "/proc/$1" ]; do
if (( i <= len )); then
printf "\r%-*s" "$len" "${text:0:i}"
else
printf "\r%*s" "$len" "${text:((i - len))}"
fi

((i = (i + 1) % (len * 2)))
sleep .08
done
}

You could change 'text' based on another argument if you wanted to.
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>>58718716
They also did that kind of stuff for a course when I studied.

Well, usually you can code C++ and certainly Haskell files in Linux fine, but if they compile and run on .NET there may be odd errors.

If you want to be sure, I guess you need a VM.
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>>58718673
I'm on Debian, but it's what I found while looking around.

Just had a look at the command line options and apparently only 640x480 is detected, any way to fix that?

>>58718665
t-thanks
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>>58718732
Okay, will get a VM for VS, then.

I can manage just fine using ghci without the GUI.
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>>58718739
> Just had a look at the command line options and apparently only 640x480 is detected, any way to fix that?
Try this guide's diagnostics and methods first:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Visual_configuration

Could be that your BIOS+GPU just don't report more modes and it only starts to really work load a full windows or xorg graphics driver.
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>>58718769
Oh, you can get GUI, just not that WinGHCI software. I actually think some of these are *generally* more popular across OS':

https://wiki.haskell.org/IDEs
>>
I've already tried Debian and Debian related accessories. As well as Gentoo and Arch. What distro should I try out that is kinda of unique?

Is openpepe better as the rolling or fixed release?
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>>58718867
Sabayon maybe.

Gentoo derivative but with its own binary package manager as default.

Not that I think you need to try out as many distros as possible? Doing something with programs is usually more meaningful.
>>
>decide to install PlayonLinux to try some erogames in Linux
>install it from the Fedora software centre
>error box pops out
>it says that I can't download the latest mesa-libEGL or something
>open the terminal and type sudo dnf install playonlinux
>says the same
>sudo dnf list installed "mesa*"
>those are 13.0.0.x or something where x are 4 on some components and 1 on others
>try dnf install playonlinux --allowerasing
>just tell me that those mesa components are downgraded to v12
>thatsnotfuckingright.jpg
>Google "broken dependencies mesa" and found 1 record which was at 20 hours ago
>just see that someone may have fucked up with some problem or something that I don't really know
>doesn't matter, dnf --enablerepo updates-testing upgrade mesa-\*
>upgrade all mesa components to the same version with some other components installed along
>reboot
>still can't install playonlinux via software centre
>install via terminal
>installation successful and I can open playonlinux

I thought the mesa thing is not needed when I have the nvidia driver installed. And it seems that the software centre isn't necessarily trustable at all.
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>>58718974
>doing something with programs

What do you mean? I know what software I need to get stuff done and that is usually pretty consistent across distros.
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>>58719060
Yea. It's not that the software will be different across distros.

It's just that effectively using that software is probably doing something more useful for you than trying yet another new distro. You likely still have lots of programs that you didn't use a whole lot, in and outside the package manager.
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>>58719004
Try wine 2
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>>58719094
playonlinux is a wine frontend
>>
I have a script where I want to check for -h and --help. I'm using [[ "$1" == '-h' || "$1" == '--help' ]], is there a way to combine these two tests into one? Something like [[ "$1" == -h|--help ]] ?
>>
Is there a way to show what a package is being used for? I'm not sure why I seem to have the entire perl and php suite.
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>>58719240
just go to remove it and see what else will be removed
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>>58719218
maybe:
[[ '--help' =~ ^-h$|^--help$ ]] && echo help
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>>58719240
>>58719289
and for a more "proper" way, that depends on your package manager, for example;
% pacman -Qi x265 | grep "Required By"
Required By : ffmpeg
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>>58719218
I think you can regex this one? h with optional elp.
>>
>>58719218
[[ "$1" =~ "^--?h(elp)?$" ]]
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[test]test[/code]
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Why are file managers named after ocean stuff?
>nautilus
>dolphin
>thunar
>>
[test][test2][/code]
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>>58719371
Hm, I think BASH fucks up here if I have the space before and after that =~ ...
>>
[test2]

test3
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>>58713121
>>58713599
>>58713782
you're just as bad as people using NetworkManager for using systemd
>>
>>58719571
test4
>>
>>58719538
>>58719557
>>58719571
>>58719578
did it work?
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>>58719541
spacefm (what I use)
mc
xfe
pcmanfm

But I guess I don't know the story. Maybe just 'cause they dive deep into filesystems / a sea of files?
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>>58719596
Can't solve the "["]" problem
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>>58713121
>>58713599
>>58713782
>>58719572
Use connman if you want something nice enough yet small. Size on disk is under 1MB and 1/3 of a MB in RAM, typically. And I've not really managed to get it to fail yet.
>>
Here's the deal:

I want to add VBA-M to my dock in eOS, but if I add the exe I get that ugly icon-less icon and then when clicked wine opens the pretty one.

I want to get the pretty one in the dock, but there is no option to add it.

What do?
>>
>>58719787
why are you using windows version or vba-m?
isn't there a linux native GBA emulator?
>>
>>58719796
It's the recommended one

http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators

It has a linux version but it won't install in eOS
>>
>>58719541
>>58719603
there's also nemo (cinnamon)
>>
>>58717470
Evince-gtk if you don't mind how ugly GTK3+ looks.
>>
Okay it finally happened
Pacman broke GNOME
Uninstalling GDM made it so I can boot normally but now when I login gnome doesn't start (exec gnome-session at the end of .xinitrc not working? When I try to use it on command line it does nothing too)
What do I do, where is the error log for this?
>>
>>58720295
Also when I'm done with this whole kerfuffle should I
a) switch to another Display Manager
b) just go to Fedora already
>>
>>58719688
I'll look into it, thanks.
>>
>>58720295
>using a DE
okay, but
>using GNOME
you should expect bad things to happen
I'd recommend openbox + tint2 + pcmanfm and feh for wallpapers
or just use lxde or xfce
>>
>>58720447
Well fuck it, uninstalling GNOME rn
>>
>>58720314
also
>using a display manager

if you really want to use GNOME, fedora is where you should go
>>
>>58720474
Yeah that was a typo, meant Desktop Environment
>>
>>58719371
you don't quote regex
>>
Just found this http://2048.fi/shellalt.txt
Discovered some new cli-fu, maybe you will too.
>>
>>58721613
lots of pitfalls right there
also most stuff is osx crap
>>
>>58719289
>>58719314
Apparently DNF has this built in with autoremove (which I've used in the past), but it currently shows nothing but mpv-libs and youtube-dl which I naturally don't want to remove. I'll have to try removing packages manually and see what comes up.
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I have an amd radeon HD 7400M series GPU and recently switched over to Ubuntu GNU/Linux. The problem is that I can't download proprietary GPU drivers for my GPU on the 16.04 version, because apparently the last supported driver for my GPU is only available for the 14.04 version.

Is there a way to make those drivers compatible with my version of Ubuntu, or do I have to downgrade to 14.04 to install the drivers?
>>
Whenever I open the file manager it opens in the wine folder instead of my home folder.

How the shit do I make it open in my home folder?
>>
>>58721903
No, there isn't.
Thanks for buying AMD hardware, enjoy.

Open source radeon drivers are superior stability-wise anyways despite the ~5% performance loss.
>>
>>58721914
preferred programs, exo etc.
>>
>>58721966
What?
>>
>>58722016
preferred programs
exo
etc
>>
What is a good foobar equivalent for linux? Is there a program that lets you organize your music folder easily like you could in foobar?
>>
>>58722079
mpd with client of your choice is all you will ever need from a music player/organizer no matter the OS
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>>58722079
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>
>>58722079
foobar in wine is the only good option
if you do not want wine, you have some bad options, like deadbeef or >>58722110
>>
>>58722079
try deadbeef
>>
>>58722287
nonfree software is never a good option
>>
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>>58722304
Do you know RIGHT NOW you are using google botnet captcha to post on a closed source proprietary imageboard software?
>>
>>58722079
They're all inferior to Foobar.
>>
>>58722334
a common tactic of a botnet sheep is trying to tell itself that **everything is botnet anyway** in order to justify using nonfree stuff, but anon, did you know that you can prefer free software and at the same time using your favorite nonfree tool, because there's no better replacement? never go full retarded
>>
>>58722334
This pasta is getting old, anon.
>>58722411
>replying to pasta
>>
>>58722372
Enjoy your slavery.
>>
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>>58722411
>no better replacement
So you completely disregard your own merits and morals when it is more pleasant for you to do?

Hypocrite.
>>
>>58722455
if you hate freedom, why using free software?

Hypocrite.
>>
>>58722411
>your favorite nonfree tool
nonfree pig disgusting
>>
>>58722479
I use what i want when it suits me and i dont need to base my decisions on some blatant lies you tell your self to be "cool" with a pedophile bird raping toe jam eating neckbeard
>>
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>replying to the same shitter every
>single
>fucking
>day
Stupid like a dog that runs back to you after you kick it in the ribs.
>>
>>58722522
but he is right
>>
>>58722334
idk about others ITT, but my calculations tell me that, at the end, it benefits freedom more than not posting on 4chan, especially in this thread, where people help each others to jump off the botnet train
>>
>>58722588
>reffering to yourself in the 3rd person
o b s e s s e d
>>
>>58722603
How can I be sure that my Ubuntu isn't a botnet
>>
>>58722637
On Debian-based systems you can do:

# Find nonfree packages:
dpkg-query -Wf '${Section} ${Package}\n' | grep '^contrib\|^multiverse\|^non-free\|^partner\|^restricted' | sort

# Find nonfree drivers:
find "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)" -name '*.ko' -exec modinfo {} ';' | awk '/firmware:.*ucode$/ { print $2 }' | sort -V
>>
>>58722699
how to do this on arch?
>>
>>58722720
kek
>>
red hat is to gnome like x is to kde.
who is x?
>>
>>58722699
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/vrms
>>
>>58723044
suse.

and the proper statement would be "fedora is to gnome like opensuse is to kde".

RHEL/SLES use whatever upstream release used.
>>
>>58723061
vrms is nonfree software, anon
>>
>>58723138
It's free software, but sometimes prints complete bullshit results (lists free software as nonfree, etc) http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#vrms

Example output/discussion:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2007-02/msg00027.html
>>
Anyone know a good short video that explains TCP/IP?
>>
more thread: >>58723259
>>
>>58715689
You do nothing but distro hop
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