/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

you should include tlcl in the pasta next time, it's very useful and I don't know why it was excluded in the first place

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Re-Asking from previous thread!

>>58700571

Posted this in last thread but it died straight away:

Anyone know why releasing keys has a delay on Ubuntu? 'Slow keys' isn't on.

When I press a key it stays on for a time after I've released it. For example if I use caps lock to type the first letter of a word, it'll still be on for long enough to caps the second letter (e.g. EXample). Also means that if I'm gaymen and I press alt to do something, then tab to check keyboard, it'll alt tab and minimize the game. Really fucking annoying.

I'm using a PS2 keyboard if it matters, and I don't have this problem on Windows.

Reminder that all distros are essentially the same.

>>58700902
Pretty weird. I've never heard of anyone having that issue before.

>>58701032
Ye all that comes up in Google is people having problems with delayed inputs. The inputs are fine, but it's coming off keys thats delayed. It's wierd because I'm pretty sure PS2 is interrupt based so I dunno why it happens.

>>58700902
Maybe you could try these generic ideas?
>Reboot
>Upgrade
>Install 16.04 if you haven't already

>>58701085
How sure are you that it's not just specific applications?

The thing you said about alt+tab and the modifier key sticking sounds like a bug I've had with steam occasionally thinking modifier keys are held down when they're really not

>>58701371
Even terminal does it so I'm pretty sure it has to be the OS.

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>>58700658
How do I stop compton putting shadows behind conky?
I already tried

--shadow-exclude 'class_g = "Conky"'

And I made sure I have "own_window_class Conky" on my conkyrc
I also tried

own_window_type desktop

But that makes conky float over all other windows.

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could someone recommend me a distro?
-sick of arch breaking when i update
-detest debian and fedora
-don't want to use a source based distro

>>58701659
>-sick of arch breaking when i update
if this is seriously a problem, then there's nothing that can help you

>>58701659
this >>58701680

>>58701659
opensuse

>>58701680
>>58701689
it's just tedious to have to fix things that worked before. it's not like it makes my computer unusable, it just inconveniences me

>>58701659

Manjaro.

is the f recursive yet

Why doesn't the Linux kernel have a Code of Conduct yet?

>>58701703
i've been using this same install of arch on my desktop since 2012, and i could count the number of update-related issues i've had on my fingers
honestly, i think i've had less problems on this than i did ubuntu/debian
either way issues are few and far between, and so, so much easier to figure out and fix than problems on windows are

>>58701658
i can't help you with your issue, but could you share that mamimi pls?

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>>58701734

>>58700707
it's in the copypasta collection -> shell scripting section

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>>58701659

>>58701725
Because they don't believe in doing things that way. Why do you think they reject Stallman's teachings?
They'd rather see it in the hands of corporations or slowly degrade over time than to risk inconveniencing the evil powers in this world.

>>58701659
void

>>58701734
http://orig13.deviantart.net/6a90/f/2016/363/9/3/junction_by_guweiz-dataf4q.jpg

Fucking sticky keys is fucking off, but if I pres alt, or tab, then I wait like 5 seconds, if the next key press is alt or tab I'll alt fucking tab. Why the fuck is this shit happening?

hey, is lxqt still shit?

I just bought my first Linux stickers for my Thinkpad, folks. I got an Arch logo, a GNU logo and a Linus the Linux penguin.

>>58702234
very nice! i have a big gnu sticker myself

>>58702234
>Linus the Linux penguin
he's called "tux", linus is the developer of linux
>GNU logo
very nice

>>58702234
Now get it signed by stallman.

>>58702234
not a sticker fan, they just collect dirt and after a while everything is sticky

Where can I get key caps to replace the windows key?

>>58702289
That's why I laminated the reverse of my screen.

>>58702302
aliexpress, probably

>>58701659
Manjaro. But really, the problem is pacman and using unsupported stuff frrom aur, those are what have caused my headaches with arch at least. Always some dependecy off, or some program called a now nonexistent library function. Not that it happens that often, but those are the problems if there are any from my experience.

>>58701659
ubuntu, if you just want a well working distro.

I have a font which, when installed, manages to make itself the font fontconfig chooses for some Japanese glyphs.

I tried disabling it with a fontconfig config that looks like this:

<?xml version="2.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
    <selectfont>
        <rejectfont>
            <pattern>
                <patelt name="family">
                    <string>EPSON Kyokasho</string>
                </patelt>
            </pattern>
        </rejectfont>
    </selectfont>
</fontconfig>

which works, but makes it so that trying to use the font explicitly won't work, which defeats the purpose of having it installed at all.

Anyone know how I can fix my problem?

I've been using Linux for years, but that hasn't cured my retardation.

What's the best rm alias/function I can use to avoid nuking up directories.

I am thinking about something that warns me if the directories to be deleted have a specific filename or if they are quite large.

I need some input. Common sense is not my repos.

>>58701659
What's wrong with Fedora?

I'm fucking around with my setup to use AMDGPU instead of radeon on my computer.
Currently, it works fine, but when I start my computer, there is a pink line down the left side of my monitor.
Apparently this is caused by AMDGPU not supporting HDMI audio (yet) and using such a connection.
The fix was to run

xrandr --output HDMI-A-0 --auto --set audio off

.

I don't want to have to run such a command when I turn on my computer though, and putting in my .xinitrc seems kind of hacky.
So does anyone know how I add this to my xorg.conf(.d)? I'm looking through the man pages and I'm not seeing anything about audio.

>>58702620
rmdir

>>58702620

alias rm='ls'
alias remove='rm'

>>58702658
>>58702673
Any way to see which files and directories will be deleted before deletion? And I don't mean one by one (I end up doing "yes | rm -r /whatever/") in those cases.

>>58702706
Check the directory before deleting it?

"I want a safenet, but if I have one, I disable it since it's incovenient"

when will debian 9 or wherever it;s at now be out
i'm itching for a change of pace from centos

>>58702726
I have a question that you might actually be able to answer. Why did you hit "Post" when your comment lacks any substance?

>>58702620

alias trash='mv -vit "${HOME}/.local/share/Trash/files/"'

>>58702620
GNU/Linux*

>>58702706

alias rm='rm -i'

-i will ask before each file if you want to delete it.
You can also use -I (capital eye) if you only want to be asked if it's a recursive delete or more than 3 files.

>>58702759
yeah and when you're on a different system that doesnt have that alias?

never alias the same name to something different

use del, delete, trash, but not the default name of a command

>>58702751
This is a good one.

>>58702759
Any way to show them all (or some of them) and ask for confirmation just once?

See
>>58702706
>And I don't mean one by one (I end up doing "yes | rm -r /whatever/") in those cases.

>>58702765
srm (safe rm)

>>58702765
Even on the same system it could break scripts in very annoying ways.

>>58702765
It's not like it actually changes the semantics of the command.
It's like

alias ls='ls --color=auto'

rm -i is what redhat does by default for the root user.

>>58702773
>This is a good one.
Well, the only downside is that it doesn't save the required info to restore files to their old location using the file manager.

>>58702814
Mh, could a function solve this? Where can I read about how the system trash works?

>>58702828
the info stuff is at .local/share/Trash/into
check the freedesktop site

>>58702839
info*

>>58702784
>redhat
who cares about them

>>58702856
>who cares about them
I'm just using it as an example of a significant distro using that particular alias as a default.

>>58702828
If you're lazy, there's the program "trash-cli"

>>58702860
Awful

>>58702828
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/trash-spec/trashspec-latest.html
>>58702866
>installing additional stuff by literally who instead of learning something or just using rm

>>58701659
Ubuntu.

>>58702918

[Trash Info]
Path=foo/bar/meow.bow-wow
DeletionDate=20040831T22:32:08

Seems pretty simple, thanks anon.

>>58702620
threw something together here, modify to suit, throw it in a script or function

warn=0
for arg in $@; do
    if [ -e "$arg" ] && [ "$(du -bs "$arg" | cut -f1)" -gt 10737418240 ]; then
        echo Warning: \"$arg\" exceeds 10G!
        let warn=1
    fi
    if [ -e "$arg" ] && [ "$(find "$arg" -type f | wc -l)" -gt 100 ]; then
        echo Warning: \"$arg\" contains over 100 files!
        let warn=1
    fi
done

if [ $warn == 1 ]; then
    echo Continue anyway? [y/N]
    read answer
    if [ "$answer" != "y" ]; then
        echo Cancelled.
    else
        echo rm $@ ## REMOVE echo FROM HERE
    fi
fi

sample output:

% ./a.sh ~/Videos
Warning: "/home/mikurok/Videos" exceeds 10G!
Warning: "/home/mikurok/Videos" contains over 100 files!
Continue anyway? [y/N]

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Do you know a nice offline guide for Freeciv?

>>58702936
Stop using echo. Use printf.

printf 'Warning: %s contains over 100 files!\n' "$arg"

>>58702976
i'll look into it/keep that in mind

>>58702976
there is nothing wrong with echo

>>58702975
>150 BC
>not building nuclear missiles

Are you even trying?

>>58702936
oops, did nothing if there's no warnings

warn=0
for arg in $@; do
    if [ -e "$arg" ] && [ "$(du -bs "$arg" | cut -f1)" -gt 10737418240 ]; then
        echo Warning: \"$arg\" exceeds 10G!
        let warn=1
    fi
    if [ -e "$arg" ] && [ "$(find "$arg" -type f | wc -l)" -gt 100 ]; then
        echo Warning: \"$arg\" contains over 100 files!
        let warn=1
    fi
done

if [ $warn == 1 ]; then
    echo Continue anyway? [y/N]
    read answer
    if [ "$answer" != "y" ]; then
        echo Cancelled.
    else
        echo rm $@ ## REMOVE echo FROM HERE
    fi
else
    echo rm $@ ## REMOVE echo FROM HERE
fi

after Arch fucked my xorg again, I switched to Mint which is comfy as fuck but also featured many outdated packages. some software is even missing from its repositories so I actually end up compiling and installing by-hand more stuff than I used to at Arch cause muh AUR

is Manjaro going to fuck my xorg just as often as Arch did? any other distro recommendation?
it doesn't have to be bleeding edge, but for fuck sake, Mint doesn't even have pyexiftoolgui in it's repo

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Thanks for all the input!

Specially this.

>>58702935
>>58702936
>>58703101

>>58702936
>==
That's a bashism, you should either use [[ == ]] for bash, or [ = ] for sh. Furthermore =/== is for comparing strings, for comparing integers, use -eq, -lt, -gt, et.

[ $warn -eq 1 ];

Thanks for reading my autism.

>>58703293

[ "$warn" -eq 1 ]

If warn contains strange things you'll have surprise.

>>58703309
Correct, forgot the important part, kek.

elementary OS is aesthetically pleasing, but is it functional these days? Or does it remain really buggy and outdated?

>>58702975
what are the requirements to run this

>>58703425
from what i've found;
30M ram (server), 200M ram (client)
200MHz cpu
ported to lots of OS's

Somebody know a RPM packagement tutorial with easy exercises to begin ?

>>58703501
i amped to try this
thank you, anon

throw dem vim conf screenies, boyz

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>>58703541
but I only use my computer for anime and the internet

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noob here, what does it mean when someone runs a headless distro?

>>58703926

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https://itsfoss.com/arch-linux-windows-subsystem/
the end

>>58703999
>calling a system that doesn't even include linux, linux
reee

also, literally who will use that? nobody is using "ubuntu on windows" either

>>58703885
When there is no graphical environment (X11, Wayland) installed.
All interaction is using the command line, usually via SSH.
A lot of servers are headless.

>>58704052
/g/ will use it to proof that there's no reason to leave Windows. (Thanks Cannonical)

>>58704078
thank you, senpai
makes sense

>>58704079
what's the win for cannonical by cooperating with ms?

>>58704078
>When there is no graphical environment (X11, Wayland) installed.
close, headless is when the machine has no display directly attached to it

even something like setting up a game server on a windows xp box and then removing the display is enough to call it a "headless server"

though still, most actual servers don't have graphical software installed, for the other reasons you mention

How does Office 2016 run on loonix?

No, I'm not going to use LibreOffice. No sir.

>>58704181

As of right now, it doesn't run. 2013 is the only one that runs atm.

>>58704179
Yeah, I realised by description wasn't entirely accurate and didn't convey the whole "no monitor" thing.
For most practical purposes, it gets the point across.

>>58704181
gahnoo/loonix*

>>58704181

Fine.

Wine 2 supports it right out of the box.

>>58704190
newest one, you mean

>>58704216

Does it run now? Strange, didn't hear much about it, good to know.

>>58704320
yea, it's even mentioned specifically in the release note
https://www.winehq.org/news/2017012401

>Everyone hates systemd because it's made by red hat and NSA
>Everyone also blindly supports wayland made by the same two groups
Explain this

>>58704477
Because systemd aimed to replace a perfectly functioning init system, and then did a whole load of extra unrelated shit.

Wayland just wants to replace X, which is such a bad hack job everybody is surprised it even works at all.

Moving over to wayland is like taking your car to the shop to get the oil filter changed because you havent done it in like 5 years.

Moving to systemd is like taking your car to the shop to get a tire replaced because the tread is running low, and the mechanic changes ALL of the tires, throws away 3 in perfectly good condition, and runs a whole service you didn't fucking ask for. He also fiddled with the radio and now it cuts out for no obvious reason every 200 miles.

>>58704517
i3 and openbox perfectly work in X, they work only in X, I don't care about your car bull shit.

>>58704540
>>58704477
X is inherently insecure. There is absolutely nothing stopping one program from stealing the keyboard input (e,g, passwords) from another and messing with other clients in all sorts of ways.
It's also a monolith of obsolete hacks, and is basically intractable to everyone except the most senior of X developers.
There is more than enough reason to change to something else. Even most X developers think this.

>>58704595
>from stealing the keyboard input
What is secure keyboard?

I wrote a python program that uses splinter to load a page with some logging info, clicks a button and loads the next url until it's over.

However I don't know how to make it start minimised. Splinter doesn't seem to allow that.

Would Lynx be able to do this? I don't want to get sucked into testing a text based browser if it's achieving what I want is a pipe dream.

>>58700721
Just one partition, root. Then make as swapfile for 8GB just so suspend won't shit itself. In this day and age there's no reason for seperate /boot, /var, and /home unless you're autistic. It's leftover from the old Unix days when they were litereally seperate physical drives.

>>58704889
having things on seperate partitions makes it easy to migrate to a new OS, or restore and old one though doesn't it?

>>58701699
Please stop shilling Openshit.

13.3 was god-tier but Leap is utter shit.

>>58704908
It depends. If you're a distro-hopper a seperate home partition can be nice if you don't like making backups. Just make sure to clean out all the configs (especially in the hidden folders) or you'll fuck yourself fast.

>>58704889
Actually, I have root on a 64gb SSD and /home mounted on a 2TB HDD. But I can't think of any other reason.

>>58704866
look into curl

>>58704954
Then that's a perfect use, honestly. Seperate drives are really the only reason to be using specialized partition setups, but you of course do really have the perfect reason.

>>58701699

>try Tumbleweed liveCD
>shit won't even detect wifi

I really wanted to use it, but this is unacceptable.

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can somebody tell me this font pls

>>58704968
I know curl. I don't want to download anything. Just load url, log in, press a button and get out.

>>58705043
go back to >>>/pol/ subhuman

>>58705053
ill go if you tell me font

>>58705046
look into curl

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly ARMv4 distro for web use?

>>58704349

>The main highlights are the support for
Microsoft Office 2013

But the other anon was asking about 2016...

>>58705068
I know curl. I don't want to download anything. Just load url, log in, press a button and get out.

>>58705069
>lightweight
>user-friendly
>ARMv4
Pick two

>>58705057
fixed 13 bold.

>>58705069
Ubuntu. I ran it on an ARM Chromebook and it runs like a bat out of hell.

>>58705074
yea, and the answer he got was that (up to) 2013 was supported

>>58705069
>ARMv4
>modern web
good luck with that

>>58705078
curl doesn't necessarily just download (although you ALWAYS download, all web browser download the pages to cache or ram)
http://www.codediesel.com/tools/6-essential-curl-commands/

>>58705083
the first arm chromebooks had ARMv7-A based cpus

>>58705127
Ooops my bad. Sorry.

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Firefox 51.0.1 update broke vimperator and my custom css.
I downgraded to 50.1.0 and now I can't access any google domains.
Is there a way to bypass pic related?

>>58705232

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings

>>58705232
Yes.

Use Midori, unless you need Chrome for something, in which case use that, then go back to Midori. Also kill yourself for using Firefox.

>>58705078
>>58705109
I'm not the one that posted it the second time, but I'm glad you changed your tune.

>>58705232
Wrong version of NSS, IIRC

>>58705306
THIS!!!!
=dev-libs/nss-3.28.1 has bugs

>>58705251
That doesn't help.

>>58705252
Midori doesn't have plugins for vim bindings.
I'm on qutebrowser right now and would continue to use it if the adblocking wasn't so shit and if I had a way to apply custom css to webpages.

>>58705306
I was just looking at pacman.log and these are the things that were updated that might have something to do with this
>openssl
>ca-certificates-mozilla
>nss
so I downgraded ca-certificates-mozilla and nss.
Fixed the problem.

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>suckless
>software sucks more

>>58705927
don't install it on one of those "smart vacuums" next time.

>>58705927
>too retarded to use program
>program is bad

>>58700658
What kinda computer is that in the OP? It looks neat

>>58706298
Some kinda Sony netbook or UMPC.

I have a time to waste, which should I install in a vm, Arch or Gentoo?

>>58706298
>>58706355
Sony Vaio PCG-C1XN

>>58706418
ty

i'm trying to

>install gentoo

i'm at the configuring kernel stage and ran the following line to view available modules

find /lib/modules/<kernel version>/ -type f -iname '*.o' -or -iname '*.ko' | less

is this command supposed to quit itself when its done or do i need to ctrl+z once it gets to (END)??

>>58706433
you're piping the output to less program which is used to view the output, you can do something like "> modules.txt" instead of "| less". This will redirect the output to modules.txt.

>>58706433
>>58706433
>

<kernel version>

here's your problem

>>58706433
where did you get that command? there are no *.o modules

Good thread.

>>58706935
Good post.

>>58706979
Good reply.

>>58706935
>>58706979
>>58706988
Good goy.

what is the best distro?

>>58707014
Kali

>>58707029
thanks

If I want to use linux do I need to get an nvidia card? The radeon drivers fucking suck shit and I can hear my card dying little by little every time I boot up Debian.

>>58707014
The idea has been around since the early 2000s and believed to have spurred from forking systems.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linuxisapos

>>58707014
Mine.

>>58707051
Try giving to greedy corporations as little money as you can

>>58707051
Radeon cards are OK as long as the free kernel-drm/xorg based radeon/amdgpu drivers support them well.

fglrx is SHIT and deprecated in modern distros.

Some /g/entooman got hired by AMD to work on fglrx, he once did a Q&A and said that the fglrx code is a fucking mess.
AMD also hired programmers to work on the open source radeon/amdgpu drivers, however I heard terrible things about them.

>>58706433
gentoo veteran here

never had to run such command. What are you trying to accomplish?

>>58707014
Debian I guess. Large community, large repos, provides stable and rolling, free as in freedom out of the box, but doesn't make it difficult to install nonfree stuff, best of all worlds.
/shill

>>58707014
the one that fits your needs

>>58707180
>no AUR
>no epic wiki

>>58700658
am I the only one who fantasizes about linus sticking his kernel into my hole?

>>58703151
arch doensn't break xorg and mint can has the same repos or ppas as ubuntu.
Otherwise install build-essential cmake git and get your shit from github. install checkinstall and build your own debs.

>>58707264
>implying only arch users can use the arch wiki

Having issues with open source drivers, want to switch to nvidias proprietary ones here's my screenfetch

        :-------------------::        OS: Fedora 
      :-----------/shhOHbmp---:\      Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.9.5-200.fc25.x86_64
    /-----------omMMMNNNMMD  ---:     Uptime: 2m
   :-----------sMMMMNMNMP.    ---:    Packages: 2248
  :-----------:MMMdP-------    ---\   Shell: bash 4.3.43
 ,------------:MMMd--------    ---:   Resolution: 3000x1920
 :------------:MMMd-------    .---:   DE: Gnome 
 :----    oNMMMMMMMMMNho     .----:   WM: GNOME Shell
 :--     .+shhhMMMmhhy++   .------/   WM Theme: Adwaita
 :-    -------:MMMd--------------:    GTK Theme: Numix [GTK2/3]
 :-   --------/MMMd-------------;     Icon Theme: oxygen
 :-    ------/hMMMy------------:      Font: Cantarell 11
 :-- :dMNdhhdNMMNo------------;       CPU: Intel Core i5-2500 CPU @ 3.7GHz
 :---:sdNMMMMNds:------------:        GPU: Gallium 0.4 on NV117
 :------:://:-------------::          RAM: 1649MiB / 7942MiB
 :---------------------://  

and the gpu I'm using is gtx 750ti

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NM3BTVG/

>>58707463
>here's my screenfetch
t-thanks?

>>58707483
I figured better to have it and not need it

Is Sway usable as a Wayland WM?

>>58707463

Can't you add the non-free repo to get those drivers painlessly?

                   -`
                  .o+`                 [email protected]
                 `ooo/                 OS: Arch Linux 
                `+oooo:                Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.9.6-1-ARCH
               `+oooooo:               Uptime: 8h 26m
               -+oooooo+:              Packages: 965
             `/:-:++oooo+:             Shell: bash 4.4.11
            `/++++/+++++++:            Resolution: 1920x1080
           `/++++++++++++++:           WM: i3
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`         CPU: Intel Core i7-4600U CPU @ 3.3GHz
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`        RAM: 2382MiB / 15477MiB
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`      
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.     
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.    
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-    
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-  
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso: 
 `++:.                           `-/+/
 .`                                 `/

>>58707631
im running arch btw

>>58707724
I would have never guessed.

>>58707014
Came from Debian to Fedora. No complaints so far.

>>58707740
>I would have never guessed.
But did you know im running arch!?

>>58707631
>

Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.9.6-1-ARCH

what's the point of -ARCH? or did they make their own fork?

>>58707772
They just add that string to the option. It's their configuration of the kernel.

>>58707772
That's just the kernel telling you that he's running Arch Linux.

Debian testing Xfce, installed Compiz for smoothnes. Smooth and no screen tearing.
How I can install and use other VM themes?
I tried gnome tweak tool but it didint do anything.

What's the new mpv PPA that everyone was using? I reinstalled recently and lost the link

>>58707791
download a theme and drop it into /usr/share/themes

>>58707751
Stop saying it. My boipussy is getting too wet for a Sunday.

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>>58707817
arch

feels like im revintenting the wheel
is there already a utility that does this?

[will@E502S prog]$ cat cpu
#!/bin/bash

CPU=`sed '/^model /!d;s/^.*: //' /proc/cpuinfo`
CPU_A=`echo "$CPU" | wc -l`
CPU_B=`echo "$CPU" | head -n 1`
CPU_T=`sensors | sed '/^Core 0/!d;s/^.*\s\([+|\-][0-9\.]*.C\)\s.*$/\1/'`

printf "%s x%s (%s)\n" "$CPU_B" "$CPU_A" "$CPU_T";
[will@E502S prog]$ ./cpu
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  N3150  @ 1.60GHz x4 (+53.0°C)
[will@E502S prog]$

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>>58707804
Missing something?

>>58708033
Looks like your gtk version is not compatible with the theme. If you're running debian then it is probably too old.

>>58708014
>all cap variables
H E H
E
H

>>58708075
why

>>58708048
Theme is from debian repos

>>58708083
run set
you'll see a pattern for system related variables

>>58708118
if i dont use those names or pre/post fix something, i should be good riet?

>>58707784
I snorted milk over my autism keyboard.

>>58708014
Please use $() instead of ``, thanks.

>>58706675
>>58707169

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel

its at the bottom of the page under "configuring the modules"

>>58708325
what's the difference?

>>58708014
>

echo "$CPU" | head -n 1

You're using bash, so use it's features:
head -n 1 <<< "$cpu"

>>58707985
Arch users, post (You)r pictures. I will plaster them on this thing and ram it with my manly superclit.
https://en-nls.com/pict1-32343?c2=9999

>>58708340
One is easier to read.

>>58708340
backticks are deprecated syntax, $() is also better when nesting

>>58708348
>opened link
thanks, now my comrades will scan my computer

>>58708365
backticks are malpractice not depreciated

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>>58706418
>the C1 series is no longer supported by mainline linux
Just why

is it possible to tell xorg to start on tty1 via ssh instead of reaching for my desktop keyboard, logging in and typing startx?
it's easier to just press the power button on the desktop and use my x220 as a remote from over here

>>58708683
>boot pc
>ssh from laptop
>login
>export display
>startx

huh

>>58708683
why not just autologin and autostartx?

>>58708395
I'm sorry about that. On the other hand, the UK has very nice laws for retail investors.

+1 for Manjaro master race

>>58708851
-1 for Manjaro shit psoter

>>58708861
-1 for unfriendliness in a friendly thread.

>>58708851
-1 for not using $(MYDISTRO).

fasd, autojump, z or v?

>>58708915
>unfriendliness
>

why is it so hard to find non-obtuse documentation for something as simple as setting up rsync for laptop/desktop use through ssh

It's like they're all written by people incapable of explaining, succinctly, how to keep it safe, and how to actually do it at a basic level.
Ensuring you're safe is glossed over. >"Yeah make sure you're safe, disable password authentication"
Okay but how about telling me how to properly CHECK it?

Same with all the other shit, everything's so fucking impossible to wade through, and all I wanted to do was synchronize files
Is there some kind of actually decent resource that I've missed? Official documentation sucks ass for everything, because use cases are ignored in favor of the abstract

>>58708737
that was the first thing I tried, doesn't work

/usr/lib/xorg-server/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server

who are these "console users"?

>>58708805
it takes less effort to actually get up and use the desktop keyboard at that point

I just found out that I can make mpv start in framebuffer mode on tty1 via ssh, which is why i needed this in the first place
but I would still like to know if there's a way to do >>58708683, might come in handy

>>58708940
man sshd_config

>>58708940
have you read ssh documentation, ad hominem?

>>58708958
edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to include the line:
allowed_users=anybody

>>58704912
What's wrong with it? It's comfy and just werks in comparison to Debian, for me

>>58705039
Have you tried troubleshooting your wifi? It werks for me

Fedora, or Ubuntu. Which one offers the most compatibility and easiness to use?

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>>58704052
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, Botnet/Arch, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Windows+Arch

>>58709116
both are about the same, but i'd assume ubuntu has more support available (not that fedora would be hard to find help for)

>>58700658
"Linux" is just a poor copy of UNIX®. it was written completely disregarding all good practices in relation to OS design.
it's so called "developers" are nothing more than hacks with years of practice

https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/blob/master/plugins/lol/lol.plugin.zsh

>>58700658
Is raspian a good OS as a desktop? I'm thinking of getting a raspberry pi and use it for emulation on raspian.

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>sudo apt remove wine
>need to get 80mb of files

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>Ubuntu 16.10.
>Download something (Steam, browser, p2p you name the protocol) faster than 200kb/s
>Everything connected to Internet dies, can't even load 4chan pages or CAPTCHA.

This is quite literally killing me. I can't multitask at all. And I can't even find similar issues from around the web

>>58708969
Actually try reading it and feel free to tell me where it says how to set it up, without using terminology whose recognition implies already fucking knowing how to do it, with the manpages being an afterthought

It's like if I tried to explain to you how you can make a man-shaped molecule
>Yeah it's super simple, all you need is a conjugated diene and a dienophile with an anhydrous cycloalkene or cycloalkene, which acts as a dienophile, and you're good. It's the easiest thing in the world lmao don't you know your resonance structures
like, it's the most fucking insane way to write guides I've ever seen, and it only happens in Unix circles
The documentation SHOULD be precise and unambiguous and use the correct terminology, but it does NOT lend itself to learning at all, it is a reference manual for those who've already learned

>>58708977
I'm not sure if you don't know what ad hominem means, but yes, I have. sshd_config's manpages is just one huge list of keywords and aren't something one can actually use, because it does not teach good practices, it just explains what words mean

I don't have issue setting it up, I have issue setting it up and knowing that I set it up properly, and didn't just do a hackjob.

"Good enough" is not good enough, especially when doing something as potentially harmful as setting up ssh (albeit openSSH does mention disabling password authentication in its wiki, the whole thing is very anemic beyond just explaining in the general what words mean and how to do individual actions. It doesn't explain which actions SHOULD be done)

>>58709265
t. macfag

>>58709324
wine is a bitch to fully remove
just go in as root and delete all the files manually

>>58709350
bsdfag

>>58709350
the only reason people on this board use macs is because they take less effort to rice, are stable, and they piss people off
just let them be retards

>>58709360
how do you need to DOWNLOAD files to UNINSTALL a program

like nigger what are you doing so wrong that it came to this

>>58709388
it's a wild world out there
sometimes you just need to embrace the chaos

>>58709405
>this.

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>>58709382
Is there really a difference?

>>58704181
Its not gonna work.

>>58709010
awesome, thanks

Why cant I go to windows 10 anymore since installing linux? Every time I select it on grub it gives me an error

OK, fuck this shit I'm forced to go back to Winshit.fucking piece of shit Internet breaks down if 1 program uses more than 200kbps of bandwith, great shit good night

>>58709639
Your router is garbage.
Windows throttles new connections but Linux has no such restrictions.

>>58709668
GNU/Linux*

>>58709713
Neither Linux or iptables are GNU projects so in this case just saying Linux is correct.

>>58709668
if the router is garbage why does it work perfectly under windows, using most of the bandwith through multiple programs and never fucking up like Ubuntu?

Ubuntu just fucking breaks down like a piece of china shit. Put steam downloading something, nothing else works. Direct download something from browser, nothing else works not even the tabs of the browser etc.

real nice multitask OS, how can it struggle so fucking much

>>58709752
Windows throttles new tcp connections so that it can only make like 10 or so per second and it will wait to open new ones.

Where as say on Linux you tell your torrent client to connect to 400 peers or something stupid and basically your shitty consumer router shits itself and new connections stop working.

>>58709783
Does not explain why the fucking OS shits itself when I use browser to direct download something and the same thing happens, nothing else works, not even the tabs will load.

>>58709742
you're being disrespectful and unappreciative
stop that

>>58709808
Well you probably need to reboot your router after you fucked it and figure out what you are doing wrong.

>>58709783
>>58709742
>>58709668
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>58709783

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How do I make firefox use kdialog/the qt/kde filepicker?

>>58709331
play with iwlwifi's module settings

Do tiling WMs need a compositor?

>>58709382
>>58709383
>>58709713
>>58709752
>>58709808
>>58709819
>>58709856
>>58709880

>replying to a tripfag
>>>/r/ebbit

>>58709896
by telling me who that cutie is
but it doesn't do that by default for you?

>>58709324
>>58709360
>>58709388
>>58709405
>>58709413
This shit made it worth browsing this thread. I estimate I got a 7% over the time invested doing so, thanks to the rejuvenating effect of laugh.

>>58710040
it uses the awful gtk one
idk where I set the setting to make it use another picker

idk actually
homestuck mage?

>>58710049
what, that i'm a retard or that i have a point?
my insecurity will never let you get away with it

>>58710096
Nah, the whole conversation. The absurd situation of having to download to uninstall, the anon noting that, the chaos reflection... I enjoyed it all.

If anything, I'm impressed by how the fuck did you do it.

Also,
>2017
>still struggling with insecurity
Perfectly normal. It's natural to do so.

what the fuck is going on in this friendly gnu/linux thread anno domini

>>58710140
Get this hothead outta here.

can someone give me the word on fedora vs centos

I just installed arch in a VM. Should I install guest additions now or should I get a de first? Also, should I download a file manager before a de?

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What are some oldschool looking icon themes for Linux?

Preferably ones that you know have been uploaded somewhere and will actually work when I download them
(I've asked before and just got responses with old icon themes that don't have the right formats)

>>58710834
Why would the order matter on any of that stuff?

Do it however you want. Getting your DE first would make the most sense though because it usually comes with most things you need, including a file manager.

>>58711159
Thanks man.

Another quick question, which would be best for a 32 bit arch installation with 768mb ram, xfce or lxde? I hate the look of lxde but I'm afraid xfce would be too heavy.

Question about Gentoo.
I'm bored, so I wanna install Gentoo. Long time Arch user, so how badly can it go? I'll figure it out. So scoping out what packages are where- and I see everything I want/need. Except for my wireless drivers.
tl;dr I need to use Broadcom-wl on Arch. b43 and brcm80211 both give issues (b43 constant drops, brcm I get a consistent drop every 5 minutes on the dot. I've determined I need broadcom-wl, even though I'd love to use the proper open drivers...)

This brings me to my question- This is the AUR package, named Broadcom-wl (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/broadcom-wl/). I see that there's a package through gentoo named broadcom-sta (https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-wireless/broadcom-sta). These both link back to the same Broadcom page, so I'm going to assume they're the same damn package?

>>58711229
yes

>>58711254
gentoo ebuild
>SRC_BASE="https://docs.broadcom.com/docs-and-downloads/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-v35"
>amd64? ( ${SRC_BASE}_64-nodebug-pcoem-${PV//\./_}.tar.gz )

arch package
>source_x86_64=("https://docs.broadcom.com/docs-and-downloads/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-v35_64-nodebug-pcoem-${pkgver//./_}.tar.gz")

Looks like the same download URL to me

>>58711345
That's what I figured. Time to jerk off while the kernel configures I guess.

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>>58700658

Never realized how much Linus looks like Sam Hyde.

>>58700658
what is that palmtop?

Can I install Fedora over the network by downloading a base tarball like I can Gentoo? I can't find my fucking flash drives and being forced to wait on Gentoo to compile will make me more likely to tear my and my neighbor's houses down looking for them.

>>58711413
No

>>58711501
Do you know how I can get the one flash drive I did find to quit telling even root it's read-only? Of course it's corrupted; that's why I'm trying to format it.

>>58711538
what's stopping you from using dd to write the iso to that flash drive?

>>58711560
The fact that it won't let me.

>>58711572
if it were just corrupted you'd have no problems rewriting the partition table with fdisk and formating it or using dd to write over it
maybe you physically damaged it somehow?

>>58711646
If I did then how would I be able to read from it?

>>58711655
how are you not able to rewrite the partition table with fdisk?

>>58711655
post the output when you try dd or something

>>58711666
I told you; it tells me as root that it is a "read-only filesystem".

>>58711686
the filesystem doesn't matter if you're making a new partition table

>>58711703
That's not my decision.

Check this:

# fsck -f /dev/sdb1
fsck from util-linux 2.29.1
fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)
0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt.
1) Remove dirty bit
2) No action
? 1
Perform changes ? (y/n) y
/dev/sdb1: 1779 files, 494666/1952139 clusters
Writing 512 bytes at 0 failed: Operation not permitted

I wonder how I'm able to read from a damaged disk?

>>58711749
what happens when you run this

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb

>>58711782
dd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': Read-only file system

>>58711796
that doesn't make any sense
/dev/sdb does not represent a file system (single partition), it's a device (a whole drive)
check the permissions for the /dev/sdb file
should probaly look like this brw-rw----

>>58711796
also, is it by any chance mounted?

>>58711796
>>58711846

I've had a similar situation happen to me before; the problem was hardware failure. No matter what I tried, it insisted it was read-only. Your USB drive is probably toast, sadly.

>>58711881
It definitely is, but how come I'm able to read from it?

>>58711939
Who knows. All I know is that attempting to write to it likely won't succeed. You're probably better off trying to locate a different USB drive if possible.
Sorry.

>>58711881
Some kinda failsafe mode to recover data?

I'm going to do something radical: I'm going to clone my phone's SD card to an ISO image, clone my installation medium onto it, see if I can boot from it, and pray I don't knock a cord in the process. Wish me luck /g/entoomen

>>58712119
drivers

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trying to compile icecat on debian stable

this error message keeps showing up

http://pastebin.com/raw/tmkctE5B

how exactly would you resolve it?

>>58712214
It tells you right smack dab in the middle faggot. Come on

>>58711749
Maybe it's mounted ? Unmount the partition.

>>58712246
I'm sorry I should of clarified

I know it's looking for Virtualenv, but when I check to see if I have that with sudo apt-get install virtualenv, it says I already have it

at that point I'm not entirely sure *how* to "define the
MOZILLA_CENTRAL_PATH environment variable" or if the file itself is borked since it says it "the source archive was
likely not created properly"

you're right that I did overlook mentioning that, but I do still would like to know how to continue

>>58712330
You find out how to set an environmental variable.

If only there was a gigantic fucking resource of knowledge somewhere

>>58712265
You're supposed to mount a partition before running fsck I think. Otherwise it also complains about being read-only. I've already thrown the damned thing in that little area in the corner of my room I call the trash, and am now trying to use my phone's SD card as a live USB.

>>58712348
friendly gnu/linux thread
he;s allowed to ask a question dog

>>58712384
There is "friendly" then there is "enabling retards who cant fucking google".
Come back after setting the path

>>58712348
Yes, well, the resources about environmental variables are rather comprehensive about bash when I am just looking for a simple solution so I can compile this thing

I am not saying I'm not looking it up -- because I did, and I actually always do look things up while posting a question here

but I am just curious if there was something obvious that I missed to fix this because I am absolutely sure it's as obvious as you make it seem to be

So step-by-step, how would you do resolve this if you're such an expert?

>>58712400
>google
you're setting a bad example, friend

>fresh Fedora 25 install
>everything smooth and happy that wayland werked on my RX 480
>update and reboot
>stuck on boot

I can't boot it at all, not even with the rescue option. What the actual fuck is wrong with Fedora?

I really wanted to use it, but goddamn.

>>58712444
check out >>58712400 for cool tips and tricks

>>58712457
when the system is booting, press f to pay respects.

>>58712485

Funny thing is that I played around with it for at least a month after launch and had no problems.

>nonstop jokes about void's lack of programs
>still installs it
>still had high expectations
I'm worried about the future of /g/

New thread:
>>58712564
>>58712564
>>58712564

>>58712246
>>58712348
>>58712400
>>58712472

well, I figured it out -- the problem was that one path name isn't supposed to have a space in it

I didn't need to mount an environmental variable at all

thanks

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So my work decided to throw away a couple of Dell Optiplex 780 shitboxes that had Windows Vista. Being the poorfag that I am, I salvaged a couple of them that actually did turn on and POST. I'm Installing Ubuntu Mate right now, since the last time I used Ubuntu was about 10 years ago and Unity is shit.

I want to be a linux Wizard like my co-workers... How Do I start? How do I get rid of the fear of the CLI? I've been lurking this thread for only a couple days now.

New thread (NON POLITICAL, NON PRO-ISLAM VERSION):

>>58712941

>>58712941

>>58712941

>>58712941

Just GNU/Linux

>>58712951
>fglt has safe spaces now

>>58712350
>You're supposed to mount a partition before running fsck
absolutely not