/pcbg/ - PC Building General

So I have a GTX970 right now and it's fine now.
However, I might soon upgrade to 4K since my current monitor has low dpi (1080p@27") and as I usually play at less than an arm's length most games look like crap.

My budget is around €300 which is around $250 in the US. I need 120+fps at 4K in CSGO and 60+fps at at least 1440p in other games like BeamNG.

Some of my options:
>Sell 970 and get used 980/980Ti
>Sell 970 and get new 1070
>Get another used 970

Rest of the pc is a [email protected], 24GB ram and a CX750M.

Any last words?


www.pcpartpicker.com/list/dvs8zM

>>58691608
>no SSD
>meme keyboard
>no AC wifi
>overpriced case
>cheapest mobo one can find
There you go.

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/c9Dgqk

I need some help finding a monitor to compliment this setup.

HARD MODE: In fucking Australia

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>>58691717
That 212X is going to cook your 7600K, especially in hot straya. The case is overpriced and not worth it imho and replace the NEX with a SeaSonic G or EVGA G2/3.
Your keyword is also overpriced meme trash and looks like rubber dome, there should be better options available, even where you live.
>monitor
What kind of monitor you emunigger, otherwise i will recommend you a 30 year old 15" CRT monitor.

>>58691641
Budgets exist. 120 GB SSD isn't even worth it. What's the point on gaming on a fast computer, with only 3 games on it?
Also not a meme keyboard, you're poor. Some of us don't live in one story crack dens, we like being connected to wifis a mile away.

Cucked

>>58691781
>is on budget
>buys retarded meme keyboard
>calls others poor
>gets offended after getting a useful answer to his question
So you're just some autistic underage retard with absolute shti decision making.
>>>/v/

I still have an R9 280 (rebranded 7950). I can get 40-50 FPS on mid-high on most games still. Is it worth upgrading to a 1060/1070 or should I stick with what I have until the next round of cards come out?

>>58691608
>no SSD
SSDs are a necessity. Get a cheap 120GB one at least.
>ASRock mobo
ASRock mobos are know to fail a lot.
>H110 mobo
You need a B150 for an i5-6500 to work at full speed.
>Not 3000MHz RAM
3000MHz+ RAM will give you a huge FPS boost.
>Single channel RAM
Always 2x4GB (or 2xAnything). Always.
>MicroATX mobo and full ATX tower
It's going to look retarded when you put it all together.
>Only b/g/n wifi
Enjoy your shit speeds on your poorfag wifi card.
>Overpriced keyboard
Get something cheaper that fits your need and put the money towards stuff in this build that actually matters, like the stuff listed above.

>>58691641
So what about the mobo? You should always get the cheapest one that meets your needs.

>>58691847
>3000MHz+ RAM will give you a huge FPS boost.
No, it's not

>>58691942
See >>58673806 from last thread.

>>58691775
>That 212X is going to cook your 7600K

well shit that's annoying - I just happened to have one lying around and hoped it would suffice

I'm waiting for the H7 to become available but I fear it will never happen

know any good replacements? I don't really go nuts overclocking CPU, I mainly fuck with the video card the most

>The case is overpriced and not worth it imho

I was actually starting to think I should just get a normal mid tower. Any suggestions?

>replace the NEX with a SeaSonic G or EVGA G2/3

I'll see what I can find. Fully and semi-modular PSUs are a pain in the dick to hunt for in Aus.

>Your keyword is also overpriced meme trash

I'll try looking outside of pcpartpicker, it's pretty limited there.

Anyway this monitor seems alright.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cx8gqk

>>58691847
Alright well these threads are mainly dirty weeaboos who live off welfare, it was my mistake coming here. goodbye, cuckboys

>>58691986
>hoped it would suffice
It will, but don't hope for reasonable OC with this, especially not during hot summer days.
Would be enough on Skylake though, but Kaby Lake runs hotter due to Intel being jews.

>know any good replacements? I don't really go nuts overclocking CPU
Anything from Noctua, Be Quiet Dark Rocks, Cryorig H/R series, etc. but if you don't plan on high OC you should be fine. Maybe consider 6500/7500 instead.

>a normal mid tower
Fractal Design Define, Be Quiet Silent Base, Nanoxia Deep Silence, Deepcool Tesseract, Thermaltake Versa, Cooler Master N.

Monitor is fine, we use the 1080p version at work, but no idea how it's for gaymen.

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>>58692076
Goodbye, underage nigger.

Is this a good build for $500?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2s9mQV

>>58692221
That motherboard isn't going to work with that CPU unless you have another Skylake CPU you can use. Get a 1050ti and a B250 motherboard instead.

>>58692259
I can afford to swap for a b250 motherboard is that the only reason to change to the 1050ti or is the performance a lot better per price?

Just got a 4k monitor

How do i get rid of black bars?

Running on 4096 x 2160
GTX 970

>>58692085

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fNRP9W

good semi-fully modular PSUs are pretty much non-existent here anymore

>>58692397
The NH-D14 is good, but see if you can get a NH-D15 or NH-U14S.
XFX TS is good, although not top tier. Seasonic G or EVGA G2/3 or Super Flower Leadex are not available?
Imho you should get a mechanical keyword, but that's subjective i guess. Your R4 case is ok, but the R5 is updated and better, see if you can get it.
Also think about adding 1-2 fans to the case. 2 intake 1 exhaust is usually the sweet spot.

>>58692309
run at 3840x2160

There are two main 4K resolution standards:
The DCI 4K resolution standard, which has a resolution of 4096 × 2160 pixels (256:135, approximately a 1.9:1 aspect ratio). This standard is widely respected by the film and video production industry.[5] The DCI 4K standard has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of DCI 2K.
UHD-1, or ultra-high-definition television (UHDTV), is the 4K standard for television and computer monitors. UHD-1 is also called 2160p[6][7] since it has twice the horizontal and vertical resolution of 1080p.[6] It has a resolution of 3840 × 2160 (16:9, or approximately a 1.78:1 aspect ratio). UHD-1 is used in consumer television and other media, e.g. video games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution

dont forget to keep breathing

>>58692397
>>58692455

I could get an i7-7000 and replace the stock cooler with the Cooler Master I already have, and it will cost a little less than getting an NH-D15 for the i5-7600k

>>58692455
>>58692487

also those PSUs are unavailable

>>58692487
Do you need the HT? If not it's wasted money.

>>58692487
>i7-7000

i7-7700 even

>>58692518

HT?

>>58691781
>120 GB SSD isn't even worth it
>meme keyboard is tho
top cuck

>>58692535
Hyperthreading. It's usually not something games profit from.

>>58692487

nah that's absolutely pointless
just get an i5-7600 and use your current hsf

>>58691847
>3000MHz+ RAM will give you a huge FPS boost.
post benchmarks

I'm kind of getting annoyed at having to delete shit off my harddrive all the time, so I'm thinking of buying another one. Does toshiba make good HDDs? Been eyeing this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Cache-6-0Gb-Internal-DT01ACA100/dp/B008KXFEZK

>>58691847

>ram
>huge FPS boost

>>58692556
>hyperthreading
>not something games profit from

all this bait

>>58692579
>Does toshiba make good HDDs?
Toshibas entry consumer drives are decent. I suggest you buy the far better Toshiba P300 or X300.

>>58692591
Most games still don't profit from more cores/threads to justify the $100 premium over an i5 if you're on a budget.

>>58692618
P300 seems a bit steep in price desu, It's mostly for video storage. How much of an improvement are they really?

>>58692567

A friend just told me had had a spare H7, fuck yes.

>>58692556

ahh yeah seems a little overkill I guess

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9h6tr7

Does anyone here have the Strix Z270E motherboard from Asus?

If so, would you happen to know if that light can be turned off, at least when the pc is turned off?

I sleep in the same room as my pc, and that light is far too bright.

> first world problems

RX 470 4 gb or 1060 3 gb? I know the 1060 performs better now but which one is more future proof? It's for 720p.

>>58691847
>SSDs are a necessity.
No, they're a luxury you fucking retard.

>3000MHz+ RAM will give you a huge FPS boost.
Only like 3-7fps increase if your GPU is garbage. If you have a good GPU then the benefit of faster RAM is that you can alt+tab more smoothly and have nice benchmarks but faster RAM doesn't really add more to a game or other programs.

You should learn about the shit you post rather then give other anons shit for your stupidity.

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>>58692828
forgot picture

>>58692648
They do improve, but if it's just for storage of meme webms and shit it's not worth imho.

>>58692763
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9h6tr7
Looks gud.

>>58692843
>SSDs are a luxury
>better get some meme keyboard tho

>>58692830
The RX will do better in DX12 gaming, so that's your future proof. But I would spring for a 8GB RX if I could. Although I'm not too sure how long it'll take for DX12 games to become more prevalent since there's only a handful of DX12 games I can think of, like BF1, Hitman and Forza.

I am excited for Zen but I cannot wait for everything and am just going to build my new system with an 8350, am I truly stupid? (P.S. I want to install win7 and not shitty win8 or spyware10)

>>58692972
The memeboard was just stupid and another anon already explained that, no one explained why the faster RAM and SSD were something anons on a budget don't need. Also
>You need a B150 for an i5-6500 to work at full speed.
I mean come on, that's just autism.

>>58692763

nice kb/mouse choice

>>58691608

>Intel i-5

lol intel. anyway, this might be too much if you are on a budget. Maybe a i3 instead?

>dat mobo

don't. Please do not cheap out on your mobo. Buy something good, at least 150 dollary-doos from a good manufaturer like gigabyte, asus, or msi.

>1x ram
get 2x4. I don't know much about DDR4 after that.

>mechanical drive

if you are on a budget, i understand this, but if you can, try to also get a 120 gb SSD for your OS to boot off of.

Or instead, get a large capacity SSD, remember, nowadays you can keep most of your PC games on the cloud and don't need to install anything you are not activly playing.


>RX 480
you could save money if you got a 470, or even a 1050 ti


>Wireless adapter
just connect with a lan connection. why do people do this? do you live with people that think wires are ugly? re-route it. Wi-Fi is for dumb normies and libraries.

case and PSU are fine and that is a nice keyboard but I would just cheap out on that and put that money toward a better case.

>>58691608

>improper link
>those shitty parts

this is quality bait

Just posting here to say that the anon saying a hyper 212 isn't good enough for a 7600k is a retard. I overclocked my old Phenom 2 by 1ghz on the same 212 I use now. If you already have a 212, you should never buy another cooler so long as you can still use it, or you really want to get the maximum overclocked possible, which really isn't necessary for everyday use anyway.

>>58693318

The one I have is brand new too. I got it as a secret Santa last year. Thought I may as well make use of it. Also no, I won't be pushing the CPU that much.

>>58693318

I want to get a H110 instead of a 212 because I'm tired of having a giant metal thing in my computer but...that price difference. I can't do it, I'll feel like an asshole, especially since I don't OC.

>>58693451
I think that's fine, but you should keep in mind that it's an aesthetic decision. That other anon is saying a 212 doesn't perform well, but it does. As long as you actually know why you're doing it, I think it's ok.

Got all my stuff on a nearly 7 years old 2TB hdd from Western Digital.

Are my stuff living on borrowed time, or am I ok? I used some tool to check how it was doing, and it said it was healthy, but I also heard these tools don't help much, unless it's right before it dies.

>>58692302
That was the only reason. Just be aware that that Pentium might bottleneck that 1060.

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If you're considering rgb ram, just fucking do it. trust me.

>>58693757

>>58693499

back it up sempai, get another 2tb drive and back it up.

>>58693775

looks cool.

>>58693795
You have no idea man.
I wish I had a professional camera to share this shit.

This is my first build and its amazing.

>>58691213
>the eternal Juden that is Intel

Where does this meme come from, because Intel is neither owned nor managed by Jews?

It's pretty much mostly owned and managed by Americans, last time I've checked.

They have a factory in Israel, but they have factories in many other countries (most factories are in the USA, one in China, one in Ireland and one in Israel).

So it's far from being an Israeli or Jewish business, unless you mean that in a figurative way.

>>58691608
Get rid of meme KB and buy a 8gb 480 instead. It's like 40 bucks more.

>>58693830
How new are you?

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>>58693775

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How did I do?

>>58693830
>its not jewish if everything it does is jewish but it doesnt do this at the behest of israel

>>58693965
Get an 8GB RX480.

If I'm overclocking why would I want to incrementally increase the core voltage when the clock speed gets to high rather than just maxing the voltage straight away, and then pushing the clock as much as it can go.

>>58693965
>4gb gpu

stop

>>58694001
Why would I pay another $50+ for an extra 2 - 3 frames at best?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pFKtr7
Ayyyy /g/ooks, I live in USA, going for a gaming build that's capable of 144Hz at 1440p. Any tips on optimizations? Budget of $2,275, planning on keeping build for a few years, with a later upgrade to SSD.

>>58694007
>not going for the most cost effective option

stop

>>58694020
You're right. You should downgrade your ram and cpu too.

Fuck it. Build for the past, not the future!

>>58693965

>4gb GPU
>650w PSU
>16gb ram for no reason

>>58694040
>>58694069
I built this with the intention of upgrading the GPU in the future

>>58694002
Because voltage equals high temps, clocks don't necessarily equal high temps but voltage does
And severe overvoltage can damage your cpu

>>58694100
Really think you should go with 8gb my man, but eh. do what you feel is best.

I think it will be a lot more than 3 fps you miss out on.

>>58694252
Even at 4K most games barely pass the 4GB VRAM mark, I've never seen anything past 6GB even at 4K

>>58694290

depends on resolution

gtav goes over 5 for me

>>58694465

didn't mean to say resolution

meant to say game and even mods

gtav with mods for me goes just over 5

>>58693789
Ah, so it's not just me being paranoid. Thanks for the heads up

>>58693965
Cooler and thermal compound are shit for OC, mainboard is meme trash, too expensive RAM, no 8GB RX480 and the Arc Midi is obsolete.
You did shit.

what is SATA express?

>>58694796
Google it yourself you lazy retarded nigger.

>>58694796
It's the SATA connections that took the first express flight to the trash

>>58694857

cbf'd

Can someone help me out? this is my first build.

I need to know what to do after I install my os (win 10).

Like, should I check for motherboard drivers, etc. or is that done automatically these days?

>>58694879
>motherboard drivers
>any year

>>58694796

meaningless

ignore it

>>58694902
bios updates or something

>>58694879
Your motherboard should have came with a dvd/cd with divers on it, for wifi, lan, intel chipset, etc. It depends what you want to work, lan would be useful atleast.

>>58694879
Windows 10 gets drivers automatically, but the BIOS can't be automatically updated, you'll need to download a program to swap the BIOS out or do it yourself. Usually BIOS updates don't do much except for maybe hardware compatibility (certain ram, Kaby lake on Z170, etc)
And GPU drivers have to be downloaded yourself
Windows 10 will do everything else though

>>58695163
>>58695114


Thanks!.

I'm looking at a QX9650 processor for 75$ and I was wondering if it'll work at full speed with my Asus P5B-Plus motherboard and 550w power source.

>>58695419
Also if you guys have any suggestions to not burn my processor through the coming Spring then that would be dandy.

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>video game console assembly general

So I got my hands on the following comp:
msi x79a-gd65
i7 3820, watercooled
8 gb ddr3 1600mhz ram
ocz agility 3 240gb ssd
sapphire radeon r9 280 3gb gpu
with a 500w psu
I am planning to upgrade it part by part but not sure from where to start, what do you guys think?

>>58695552

teehee

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>>58695552
>skimping on the memes
Off yourself, kike.

Can someone help me with my PC. Maybe some missed compatibilities, though I'm pretty sure everything is compatible.
My PC is bootlooping.

- i5 7500
- Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI
- G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-16GVR

Is the RAM not compatible because it says Z170 instead of H170?

Thanks!

Can the EVGA 600 B1 100-B1-0600-KR 80+ BRONZE 600W PSU https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014 be used in a setup with two 250W graphics cards?

The specs say not crossfire certified

>>58696060
1. You can always use PCP to check compatibility.
2. Always provide a link to PCP, your budget and location so we can help.
3. i5-7500 needs a Union Point board (2xx series) to work out of the box, Sunrise Point boards (1xx series) require a BIOS update, some shops offer this service.
4. RAM is good, but yours is way to expensive, for standard 2133/2400 RAM get the cheapest dual channel kit of your choice.
5. The questions you ask show lack of any knowledge whatsoever. If you plan on building your own PC i suggest you start doing some research before you break your parts. Alternative buy a prebuilt, there's no shame in doing so.

>>58696125
See if it has the needed power plugs and calculate if the wattage is enough for you.

>>58694786
>Cooler and thermal compound are shit for OC
agreed
>mainboard is meme trash
Can you explain what you mean by this and provide justification?
>too expensive RAM
agreed, sadly RAM is expensive as fuck right now and that was the best deal I could get at the time
>Arc Midi is obsolete.
Can you explain what you mean and provide justification?

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Whats a good extended mouse/keyboard HARDTOP mat?

Bonus if it has LED's.

>>58696207
I did use PCP to check compatibility, but thought I'd double check here. Thanks for the tip about the BIOS update, I remember I had read that but completely forgot about it.
Why do you think the RAM is too expensive? I run a lot of VMs, so I need 16GB.

This is my first PC build, you got me there. Thanks for your help though!

>>58696225
>provide justification?
It has gaming in it's name, it's overpriced and the VRM is trash.
>Arc Midi is obsolete.
R5, S and C (mini) are all better. If it's an old case you had before it's ok, but buying it new in 2017 is wrong.

>>58696284
>wanna know how I know you're fat?
Yes please enlighten me, senpai.

>>58696356
What i meant is that there are cheaper kits available. See if you can find a cheaper 2x8 kit from Crucial, Mushkin, G.Skill (NT series) or some other option.

>>58696207
>See if it has the needed power plugs and calculate if the wattage is enough for you.
That's what I thought too, but the newegg specs page is concerning.. why would the page say it's not for CF if it will work?

>>58696571
Because you should rethink.

>>58696627
>derp

Is it normal for everything to "just werk"
I booted up my computer for the first time and it went directly to my usb to install windows.

I was expecting the worse.

>>58696777
Sometimes.

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>>58696777
Only if (((HE))) approves of it. Consider yourself blessed.

>>58696794
>>58696831

It took me 2 months of meticulously researching every part.

I'm elated it all worked out. I was ready to just sell everything for a fraction of the cost if I had to send stuff back etc. Just so much hassle.

Feels good.
PRAISE KEK.

How are EVGA G1 cards?

>>58696777
Well, normally it asks you to confirm CPU and memory during first POST, but yeah, that's normal if you're not a mong and bought compatible parts.

Any suggestions? This is my first time building my own computer to I would appreciate any criticism. Also looking for recommendations for a monitor to fit my build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pfqZGf

>>58696912
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pfqZGf
> 100+$ for 2400 ram

You can usually find 3000mhz for that

>>58696912
Get 3000 RAM, no idea about the SSD, rest is subjective.

>>58696865

psus, not cards. I heard G2s were good, but never heard about G1.

>>58696870
I didnt touch anything so it skipped it or confirmed on its own... not sure if bad thing..

>>58696931
>>58696932

Thanks, I will look into 3000mhz ram.

>>58696964

G1s are shit

>>58696848
>I was ready to just sell everything for a fraction of the cost if I had to send stuff back etc. Just so much hassle.

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

>>58697264
Not surprising coming from a kek worshiper

>>58697264
>>58697293

>yes goyim
>just keep sending us back your products for months until your computer works

>keep paying those shipping fees too

fuck off reddit

Reminder for anyone in the UK that the RX 480 8GB has hit £200 on Amazon, lowest its ever been. Great time to jump onto it though its backordered til next week.

>>58697457

So you're saying its a better idea to sell items for "a fraction of the cost" than just return the item for free. No one has any financial sense around here.

>>58697514
I said I wouldve rathered sell them them off basically for less than have to deal with sending them back and forth. Meaning just go back to using my laptop instead.

I have to be home when my package comes as they leave them on my porch for anyone to take.

You must not know the hassle of waiting for a package and then wanting that shit not to be stolen while you're busy.

Hey, does any have any benchmarks for the g4560 with an rx 480? Any bottlenecking issues?

>>58697643
The 480 is approximately 1060 teir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUapuF0y30s

>>58696912
>not getting DDR4-3000
got some
>16gb
I can't say I recommend it but go ahead
>SK hynix ssd
literally who?
>such a meh case
>Rosewill psu
good luck cowboy
>four additional fans
make sure your mobo can support all those, if not, get some fan splitters

>>58697714
Those are insane values for a fucking $70 Pentium. Sadly it's not possible to BCLK OC anymore, after all Intel is a major jew.
G4560 + GTX1060 or RX480 or RX470 seems like THE budget build now, doesn't it?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xGfTtJ

>the LED RAM is the cheapest 2×8 3000 RAM that's not bright red.
>fan controller allows me to turn fans off under load
>the chroma is the only good mouse with multiple keys on the side

Going for this aesthetic.

>>58696273
>>58696273
Nobody?

>>58697940
Enjoy your VRAM housefire.

>>58697961
Better ask there: >>>/fa/

>>58697775

>>not getting DDR4-3000
>got some
Fixed
>>16gb
>I can't say I recommend it but go ahead
Is 2x4gb what you would recommend?
>>SK hynix ssd
>literally who?
Found it here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891-2.html
I'm on a budget so I figured a cheaper SATA SSD would be better choice over the PCIe but I am open to switching if there is a noticeable difference between the two.
>>such a meh case
My buddies said similar. Any recommendations around the same price range?
>>Rosewill psu
>good luck cowboy
Any alternatives you suggest?
>>four additional fans
>make sure your mobo can support all those, if not, get some fan splitters
I was thinking of cutting down to 3 case fans instead of 4 if the extra 4th would bring diminishing returns.

Like I said this is my first time building and I have tried to research what I need so any better alternatives would be appreciated.

>>58697940
>razer
Don't

>>58697994
>housefire

>why do people keep saying that?

>>58698006

They've got solid reviews and everyone says good things. Who should I go with?

>>58691608
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJmsjc

Improvements:
Mobo
RAM
SSD
PSU
WIFI adapter

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJmsjc

ttt

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>>58697995
>Is 2x4gb what you would recommend?
I'm saying that chances are, you won't need it, especially with the recent rise in the cost of ram
>I'm on a budget so I figured a cheaper SATA SSD would be better choice over the PCIe but I am open to switching if there is a noticeable difference between the two.
very well
>My buddies said similar. Any recommendations around the same price range?
$50-$100 price range
Fractal Design R5
Fractal Design Define C
Phanteks Eclipse P400s
Phanteks Enthoo pro m
Rosewill FBM-05
that sort
>Any alternatives you suggest?
EVGA and Corsair are usually the go-to people for reliable psu's as so many people have been through that minefield before, so you should come out fine.
>I was thinking of cutting down to 3 case fans instead of 4 if the extra 4th would bring diminishing returns.
it's fine, but I would put one or two high airflow fans in the back and two or three static pressure fans in the front

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>>58691213
I posted this on /v/ but their help can be shaky at best, does anyone have an personal experience using an ultrawide and or curved monitor for gaming? I'm intrigued but would like some feedback from owners, the pros and cons. The main use is gaming.

>>58698480
>ultrawide
You mean ultrashort

Which GPU should i get:
6GB Gainward GeForce GTX 1060 Aktiv for 265€ or
8GB MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming X for 249€ ?
I'm leaning towards the RX480 since it's cheaper, comes with the Twin Frozr vs the generic dual fan layout of the GTX and is also cheaper.

What should I change?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mn7FHN

Going to build this probably around June. Is anything going to be outdated then?

>>58699004
definitely the 480. No brainer

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>>58698480
While I can't speak for gsync and 144hz ultrawide monitors it's quite nice and immersive. Programming on it is great and games look great. (but then again what doesn't these days) I recommend getting and ultrawide.

>>58699004
as in game performance goes, they're pretty much the same on average, past the point of giving a fuck.
but the 480 in this has the upper hand
>2gbs more ram
>better fans
>cheaper

Haven't built a PC since 2011. What is the purpose of M.2? Is that just a tiny SSD?

>>58699069
it plug on the PCIE port so it's a bit faster than sata SSD

>>58699047
>>58699059
Thought so, wanted to get a RX470, but prices here in Jewmany are just stupid. RX470 4G costs 200€, i can get a RX480 4G for 209€, makes no fucking sense to get a RX470 at all.
I'll pair it with Ryzen unless AMD fucks it up, then idk what i'll get.. maybe even just a G4560 because i don't really want a Kelvin Lake i5 or i7 and i3 makes no sense since BCLK is not an option anymore and the G4560 is such a beast.

>>58699004
RX 480. No brainer.

>>58699034
swap the Z170 for a Z270 as you will be able to take advantage of whatever the fuck kaby lake offers.
by the time june rolls around a lot will happen especially for some parts you're buying, EVGA's FTW2 cards, AMD is stepping back into the ring so keep an eye on that. other than that, it all will work.

>>58699034
>June
>Not getting Ryzen.
>Not considering Vega.

Too early.

>>58699115
look around for sales i just bought a RX480 8G for 220 €

>>58699151
>look around for sales
I always do, which version did you get? Because i'm not getting a PowerColor or Gigabyte, even if they are on sale.
And i'm forced to wait until feb/march anyways because Ryzen.

>>58699175
i got a XFX GTR edition
but waiting for a good deal isn't a bad idea

>>58699141

It's gonna be shit

>>58699219
it should lower intel's price anyways

>>58699199
XFX GTR for 220 is a steal. Hopefully there will be some good sales around march. It's sad that i missed some good christmas sales.
Alternate had the Asus Pro Gaming AURA for 130 on sale, with the Asus cash back you get a great Z170 mobo for fucking 90€. Guess it was sold out within minutes.

>>58694023
I would change the PSU, for a few bucks you can use something fully modular with more wattage (maybe 600w to 750w), and you would never worry about the power on your upgrades
I say this because I see that you're going with a great CPU and a great MoBo, so I can infer that you want it for a long-lasting PC

>>58698422
Thanks for your feedback. I decided on the Phanteks Eclipse P400 case with 3 SP fans for the front like you suggested. I also chose the EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W PSU.

Do you have any suggestions for a monitor to fit my build? I don't really know where to start with that.

>>58694879
how much is your budget?

>>58699240
yeah this kinda sales doesn't last for long i got lucky
yeah it's not a bad mobo even at full price

>>58695438
Hyper 212 Evo

>>58695633
MoBo, by upgrading this, you will need a newe CPU and RAM
you can upgrade you GPU and PSU later, PSU because components nowadays consume less wattage than your components, and GPU because that 280 is great

Can anyone explain to me why I should upgrade my monitor?

I got an old HP w1858 and it seems to display everything fine.

>>58699333
it depends on what you do... for standard user i would recommend a 20-24 inch monitor

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What's the best 2-in-1 laptop for shitposting?
I went to Best Buy and checked some shit out but it's all atoms/celerons/pentiums, or has something stupid like a 4K touchscreen, some of them even have HDDs
Which ones are as good as a regular laptop? Any focusing on light weight?
Ironically the surface tablet+keyboard was one of the most powerful and thinnest "2-in-1's" out there

>>58696912
Updated parts list based on your suggestions.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JfjFHN

Still looking for a good monitor to fit this build.

getting a H270 for a i7-7700 it´s ok? or should I go for a Z270?

>>58699447
1080p 144hz gsync
Or forget the gsync and adjust settings to play at either 72 or 144fps

>>58699132
But with a firmware update the Z170 should be fine shouldn't it?

>>58699496
H270 only if you need SLI, otherwise B250.

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>>58699282
>I decided on the Phanteks Eclipse P400
make sure you go with the S, the extra cost is worth it.
> 3 SP fans for the front like you suggested
do know you can only put 2 140's, or 3 120's on the front, the rest will have to go in the back.
>any suggestions for a monitor to fit my build
Asus VG248QE on pcpartpicker is the most popular and from the specs, it seems to be the ideal 1080p monitor.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-19-Inch-Design-Monitor-S19F350/dp/B01CX27190

Thoughts? Trying to keep it as cheap as possible because I'm wasted in the bank.

>>58699509
yes, but you can just skip that crap if you go with a newer $150 mobo offering, there will be a billion more mobos for z270 out by june.

>>58699511
even if it is for future upgrades?

>>58699396
I game mostly. Can the HP w1858 display 1080p?

It's pretty confusing to me for some reason. It probably doesn't help though it needs a vga to hdmi converter.

>>58699447
Your motherboard has three fan headers. One for the CPU cooler, and two for case fans, so you're going to need some fan splitters.

You have two 140mm fans and three 120mm fans in that list, along with the two 120mm fans that come with the case.
Where are you planning for them to go?

>>58699595
What upgrades would that be?

>>58699496
The only time you want to go for a Z-chipset motherboard is if you're overclocking. And if you're overclocking, you'd need a K-series CPU.

>>58699517
>make sure you go with the S, the extra cost is worth it.
Alright will do.
>do know you can only put 2 140's, or 3 120's on the front, the rest will have to go in the back.
Im aware. The 3 SP fans are all 120mm.
>Asus VG248QE on pcpartpicker is the most popular and from the specs, it seems to be the ideal 1080p
Is the difference between a 24" monitor and a 27" just preference or are their advantages to a bigger monitor?

>>58699447
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2HyCgL

I tried to improve on your list a little bit.

The CRYORIG H7 is going to give you better temps, and since you're overclocking that's going to matter.

I managed to cut $10 off your memory while still going with a reputable brand, keeping the same CAS latency, getting slightly better timings, and matching the color of the previous sticks.

Changing over to a PNY GPU saved some money, and they tend to have better build quality than EVGA on cards that aren't flagship. The larger cooler and two fans should also help with overclocking if you choose to go that route.

Since all of those fans are going to make a bit of noise, I took the advice of a previous anon and switched out the P400 case for the S variant to keep things quiet.

SeaSonic PSUs are generally considered the best, and since it's covered up anyway it shouldn't matter what it looks like. Plus it shaved $10 off the cost.

I found some fan splitters to ensure you're able to plug in all of your fans.
The front 3 fans can take advantage of one splitter for the first header, and to top/rear fans can be plugged into the second. Your CPU fan can still use the CPU fan header.

>>58699613
>You have two 140mm fans and three 120mm fans in that list, along with the two 120mm fans that come with the case.
>Where are you planning for them to go?
My mistake; I should not have the extra high airflow fan on the list.

>Your motherboard has three fan headers. One for the CPU cooler, and two for case fans, so you're going to need some fan splitters.
Thanks for the heads up. How many fan splitters would I need to get all my fans working and do you recommend any specific type?

>>58699971
Someone already solved the problem.
>>58699863

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Guys I want comfy computing
>>58699438

>>58699578
ok so I updated the mobo to a 270. better?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DRtGVY

>>58699863
Thanks for optimizing my part list and explaining the thought behind those choices, it answered a lot of my questions. I will probably include all your changes when I purchase the parts so I appreciate the time you took to help me.

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Should I buy a 1050 TI or RX 460 / 470 for pic related?

>>58699854
no difference, many people have many different reasons for wanting a bigger or smaller screen.

>>58700753
is your computer on fire

>>58701101
Common issue with asus mobos, proprietary sensor firmware or some shit, temp should print out fine in bios

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>>58701133
o-oh

>>58701133
Yup.

>>58700753
for best performance, 470, or 1050ti if you don't have the proper cables.

Any final thoughts on this part list before I start buying anything? A couple anons already helped me compile this list but I'm curious if anyone wants to give their input.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2HyCgL

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Trying to downsize.
Anyone need an HDF

>>58701705
Selling your stuff? How much for the ssd?

>>58701515
K ty.

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so why would you ever buy an expensive case? pic related, my temps stay fine in a 200R, this is running 100% cpu usage after a few minutes with prime95 26.6

>>58701870
What cpu cooler?

>>58691485
Sell your 970 and get a 1070. Or sell your 970 and get two 8gb RX 480.

>>58691781
>"you're poor"
>can't afford ssd

lol OK m8

>>58691828
If it's holding up well and you don't have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, sit tight for Vega. If Vega crashes and burns, maybe the 1080ti will be out at least.

>>58693013
Might as well go full retard and buy a 9590.

Just wait, you turd.

>>58701735
I unno. Like $100

>>58701991
What size and where from?

>>58701705
Where did you get that mouse pad and is it customized?

>>58697494
I got a Sapphire RX 480 8gb Nitro+ for $185 on Jet but I think it was the only one.

>>58701906
corsair h60

>>58702001
Newegg. 256

I also have a 128 for 60$ you may be interested in.

A guy I know does bidding with manufacturers to get parts for considerably cheaper than they would be. I asked him for a suggestion on a decent build that he could get me for 500$ usd. Does it look good at all?
OMEN X Desktop - 900 - 140VT gaming HP computer. Windows 10 operating system, 7th generation intel core IS-7400 processor, intel HD graphics 630, 8GB memory, 128SSD+1TB HHD storage, Nvidia GEFORCE GTX 1070 by HP.

ADVICE NEEDED!

I am considering the i3 7350K, and whether it is a logical recommendation or not.

Pro:
-Cheapest K-series CPU from Intel
-Very high clocks out of the box, can OC even higher

Cons:
-Barely $5 cheaper than the cheapest i5
-Requires an aftermarket HSF

Would love to hear some feedback.

>>58702171
Currently considering adding it, with a warning that it is for OCers only.

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>>58702171
>dual core

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I need 1.32 volts to keep my 6600k stable at 4.5GHz, should I be fine with a hyper 212 evo? It stays below 70° while running cinebench over and over

>>58702171
>>58702180
Why not add hyperthreaded G4560 and G4600 Pentiums before that? They can replace FM2 860k

>>58702427
Am looking into those as well, but looking at the i3's first.

>>58702387
If it stays below 70 in a benchmark, you're fine.

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For a home server. Thoughts?

>>58702753
The bigger the hard drive, the more likely it is to fail.
Where's your fault-tolerance?

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Has anyone here had any experience with the Dell Ultrasharp range? U2412M, U2414H, U2417H etc.

I was thinking of getting one after being dissatisfied with the Asus VX239H.

>>58702777
They're solid monitors. I have a 2408WFP and a U2412M. The stands are great and the displays deliver exactly what they're specced to.

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how the hell do i OC?
my cpu is 333mhz stock clock and i can get to 399 with 0 problems, but 400 makes me get stuck in a boot loop until i drop the cmos battery

>>58702797
Alright thanks anon, that'll make me feel better about shovelling out 400 bucks for a U2414H.

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Hey /g/,

I'm looking to replace my current OEM 1TB Segate hard drive. Its coming close to 5 years old and its beginning to show its age (pic related was the most recent CrystalDiskInfo drive check). I've been looking at different HDDs such as Toshiba P300s or X300s (preferably the X300s due to their speed) for mixed storage of steam games and video recording/editing, but I'd prefer the price to stay closer to $100 or so. Along with drive lifetime, should I be interested in a drive warranty just in case it shits the bed when said warranty is still valid? Data recovery wouldn't be much of a concern, its mostly shit anyways, I'd be more concerned about replacing it.

In addition to the drive itself, I'm wondering what kind of cloning software I should use to transfer the data from my current 1TB drive to the new HDD. I have a Kingston 120GB SSD as my primary drive, so running an OS will still be possible without the 1TB drive.

Any input is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

>>58702777
I got U2414H. It's a great monitor, I love it.

>>58702171
>>58702180
Feedback please.

>>58703077
I haven't seen any reviewer recommending 7350K. locked i5 is cheaper when you factor in the cost of more expensive z*70 mobos

>>58702769
I have a few drives lying around, i could put them in RAID as a redundancy. I'll down size the drive and pick up a couple 2Tbs.

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>>58702514
Is 1.32 a lot of volts for what sounds like a normal 6600k overclock? Are temperatures really the only danger about overclocking?

why do you hate water cooling /g/

>>58703361

a lot of people hate it to be edgy. if you go through the /guts/ threads, there are a bunch of people with liquid CPU coolers

cant i just snip some of my cpu heat pipes and run water through them?

>>58696777
I've build 3 pcs in the last couple of years and all of them worked just fine from the get go

>>58691213
I had a prebuilt PC from the 2011-2012 era sitting around that I never really touched. I always sort of planned to upgrade it but I never got around to it and now I'm out of touch with PC-building in general.

Should I just keep it aside as some sort of linuxbox and start from scratch or should I try to put money into it?

What has changed in the past 6 years? HDDs and SSDs are increasing in price, which is nice. And GPUs seemed to have come down in price and are competitive between AMD and nVidia. But I see we have upgraded to PCI-E 3.0 which I'm assuming means I have to throw a new MOBO into the mix too.

So what's the recommended build if you can drop about ~$800-1000 and like nVidia? I'm guessing I'd aim for a 1060 but I never really knew anything about CPUs. Is everyone running an i7 nowadays?

Who is the gold standard for GPUs? Is EVGA/MSI still top dog or did someone else take over?

>>58703713
>HDDs and SSDs are increasing in price, which is nice

I meant increasing in size, whoops.

>>58702769

Why is a bigger HDD more prone to fail then a smaller? Is it because of more sectors means that there is a bigger chance for smart errors etc?

>>58703713
pci-e is backwards and forwards compatible, i'm running a 3.0 card in a 2.0 slot atm with 0 issues
gigabyte and asus make good cards 2 be honest

>>58703745
It doesn't get bottlenecked? Also is there a site to see if X part would compatible with your existing rig?

>>58703781
i dont notice it, on the other hand though i'm running a 750 TI on ddr2 so i guess the pci bottleneck is tiny in comparison

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how well would this flow work? 3x120mm in the front, 2x140mm on the top, 140mm in back, and 135mm on the cpu cooler. also, fan controller allows me to switch off/control fans manually

>>58703887

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gTG8zM

parts for reference

>>58704056
>>58703887
Heat rises

>>58703738

The more parts there are in any device the higher the risk of failure of said device because there are more parts that could possibly fail.

This is why redundency is a thing.

>>58704070
The fire rises, brother

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>>58698480

>Pros
-Everything that supports 21:9 looks phenomenal

>Cons
-Everything that doesn't support it means you have to play in 1920x1080 with black bars or stretched.

friend asked me to build him a PC, he wants it for hobby photography and video editing in Micro ATX case for budget of 600 euro
I came up with this
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sL4zCy
used UK prices since I cant choose his country: Ireland

any help welcomed (even with good ireland shops since he doesnt know any)

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Going to start now by saying that this cart is done based on the assumption that AMD Ryzen isn't feasible for one reason or another. Let's say I bought this today, how does this look? Also, I will be paying only 60% of the 'total' cart for a number of reasons.

Any suggestions/alternatives to the Synology NAS? I wouldn't mind building one myself for FreeNAS but would it be significantly cheaper? I've seen the HP Microservers, are these still viable as a long-term NAS system?

The main purpose of the Desktop itself is to function as a system for Lightroom/Photoshop and some gaming on the side. I wouldn't mind using a single system for working on and storing data... but I think it might be for the best to use a dedicated device to store data.

This isn't building related, but couldn't think of another thread to ask this;
To any anons with T420 chinkpads, is the CPU replaceable?

>>58705691
Maybe the ThinkPad General Thread that has been running for the course of years would be a good place to start...?

Yes, you can.

What do YOU personally believe the sweetspot budget for an enthusiast PC builder is before he starts to embarrass himself with unnecessary costs?

>>58705794

If you are asking the question you have already failed. An enthusiast build budget is meaningless - its all about purchasing so suit your needs.

I currently have an Athlon X4 880k with a cheap MSI A78M motherboard;
>MSI GTX 750 Ti overclocked to 1493 on core and 3130 on memory (***)
>am wanting something more powerful
>[used] 2x R9 280x for $300 AUD
>[used] HD 7970 for $150 AUD
>[new] RX470 4GB for $300
I'm retarded and don't know which to buy

-And to go with my CPU, am wanting a new CPU cooler, because the stock is shit, and I'm blind and can't seem to find FM2+ coolers
>cheap
>decent quality
>preferably comes with decent thermal paste

Any advice and comments on my autism would be appreciated; thanks anonymoose

>>58705828
the (***) = reference @ pccasegear.com/products/26933/msi-geforce-gtx-750-ti-gaming-2gb
Sorry for autism

>>58705821
>not autistically conforming to illogical /g/ opinions

Why else would I get a worse case for my build just because it doesn't have a window and I can avoid non-existent ridicule?

>>58691847
>You need a B150 for an i5-6500 to work at full speed

what did he mean by this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mZqtr7
Does this make for a decent gaming build? I'm going for 1440p/144Hz gaming with games such as Civilization VI, GTA V, Minecraft, etc etc. How long will this last? Is it worth the price? What optimizations could be made? Thanks in advance.

>>58691828
>>58701953
Or just wait for Volta to be released.

>>58705866

/g/ also thinks enthusiast means throwing more money at a build, which is not what it means at all.

>>58706037
>i7-7700K
>212 EVO
Enjoy your housefire.

>>58706099
I doubt it will overheat. If it does, I'll probably return/toss the 212 EVO and get a Corsair H100i

>>58706137

>Corsair H100i

There is a time to stop and you missed it.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pNtr7

This is my first built and I'm using 100% Pure Canadian Maple Syrup currency. I plan on playing Civ VI, Stellaris, Planet Coaster, mostly other 4X games, and the upcoming Mass Effects.

I plan on buying a soundcard somewhere down to line for music related shenanigans (plugging my instruments, rudementary sampling, etc.).

Would like this built to last for at least 4 to 5 years, so I left some headroom for OC when I can afford to buy a cooling system. But I'm really wondering if it's worth the extra Caribou bucks, and if I should forget about Zmobos, k CPUs and OC all together.

>>58706356

If you are planning on spending that sort of money I would definitely wait and see what Zen brings.

>>58691847
>3000Mhz+ RAM will give you a huge FPS boost
Well, no. What could give you FPS boost is more RAM, but 16gb is a lot for gaming. above 1600Mhz CL9 you will have no performance boost in games, it is alreadly too fast for loading stuff. and games usually don't load more than 4gb to RAM. 8gb is fine 16gb is overkill, above 1600Mhz is placebo for gaming.

Unless you are trying for futureproofing (3-5 years) you are alreadly doing wrong by getting a skylake.

>>58692843
Isnt a 240gb Sandisk SSD (wich is alreadly faster than any HDD and loads stuff really really fast) for less than $70?

What apu should i order for my younger brother? He's 11. Wants a 'gaming pc'. Parents wanna keep the costs to a minimum. I don't really see the point in him getting a gpu until he has enough for something decent. Integrated graphics can't be that shitty.

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So I was looking around to see what the wattage of this piece of garbage was.

From what I'm seeing it's as the marked model, PX-600 is 600w. Am I getting it right?

I still gotta change it though, since the brand looks like shit.

>>58706619
>please halp me build budget gaymen machine
>doesn't specify the budget

>>58706619
He wont play anything good with even the latest integrated graphics.

Just buy him a rx480 8gb cheapass

>>58706632
It clearly says MAX 180W for PX-600

>>58706667
If I knew the budget I would post it sperg, anything below 200

>>58706679
not gonna spend a penny on that spoiled lil shit

>>58706632
>>58706692

That and the absurd 3.3v and 5v amperage tells us its most likely not going to deliver what it claims it will.

>>58706697
>anything below 200
Topkek, buy him a used PSP from craiglist.

>>58706697
>200

hahahahaha, check craigslist for someone tossing their ancient gaymun pc for that price.

>>58706718
>>58706719
i meant for the budget of the apu, not for the entire build lmfao

>>58706692
>>58706715
Ok then, I'm fuckin dumb then.

Another thing, I wanted to change it for an EVGA G2 or G3, and it looks like those have the fans on top.
My case only has a grill on the backside, as this PSU has the fan on the backside as well, next to the mains connector.

Am I being dumb again or how can this be solved?

>>58706734
>apu
>for 200
Autist.

>>58706755
can't exactly be that expensive i mean fuck i saw one on amazon a few months back for $100

>>58706739
Are you trying to frankenstein a 90's PC you found in the trash with new parts? You should start fresh.

>>58706781
Nigger for $200 you can get a Pentium and a decent entry level GPU, why waste money on a shitty APU?

>>58706811
maybe try reading the thread you stupid faggot

>>58706785
It's funny you say it, it's actually a poorfag build from like 5 years ago.

I think the CPU and mobo can still hold for a while, but the PSU and GPU are complete shit at this point.
In fact, if I had a good PSU I'd just have to get the latter and could call it a day, but that sure ain't the case.

>>58706823
>gets useful advice
>gets mad
Topkek. Maybe the underage brother is really you, retard.
>>>/b/
>>>/v/

>>58706842

Go look at jonnyguru's death of a Gutless Wonder articles and be enlightened.

>>58706859
not my fault you're not able to read m8

>>58706893
Stay mad kid, you're not getting your shitty gaymen machine with that money or the lack thereof and your ignorance.

>>58706914
except it's not supposed to be a gaymen pc, it's a fucking base build until the kid saves up his shekles you dense fuck. can't tell if you're projecting your shit onto me or what

>>58706937
Regardless the purpose, APUs are a waste of money on an obsolete platform. Pentium runs circles around it for half the price.
But go on, waste your $200 on a shitty APU, be my guest.

>until the 11 year old kid saves up
>

>>58706992
you've already proven you can't read, i'm not going to take advice from you kek

>>58707050
>i am a retard and will waste $200 of my parents money
Go on you underage retard.

>>58707075
stay in school lad, you'll need it. reading comprehension is a hard skill.

>>58707105
>What apu should i order for my younger brother? He's 11. Wants a 'gaming pc'. Parents wanna keep the costs to a minimum. I don't really see the point in him getting a gpu until he has enough for something decent. Integrated graphics can't be that shitty.
Maybe you should reread your on post you illiterate retard. I also already told you that APUs are shit and you can get far better stuff for $200, but go on, be a ignorant retard. You'll get far in live with this attitude, kid.

>Integrated graphics can't be that shitty
>can't be that shitty

Autism 101.

>>58706619
AMD A8-7600 is $80. He can just switch it out with a better and a new gpu later on

>>58707162
You're not comprehending the situation, stop trying to. If you're using kid as an insult you're probably no more than 18.

>>58707179
better cpu? thanks senpai

>>58707224
>You're not comprehending the situation
Obviously you aren't since you prefer to burn $200 for obsolete technology.
>using kid as an insult
Because you're acting like one, seems like i hit the spot.

>>58691213
Bsod fag from previous 2 threads reporting in.

I finally solved this. Thx for all anons who replied.

Long story short I was having bsods right after bios screen.

brought the rig back to the store, we tried every possible part combination. And it turned out to be the cpu. A brand new i7 6700k can look normal, boot normal but it can also fail after 5 days.

Moral of the story: Always invoke the machine spirit before activation.

>>58707284
$200? I said anything below 200. I honestly think you might have problems there m8

>>58707416
Was the cpu doa?

>>58707434
You might have a problem in the understanding of the fact that a $75 Pentium shits on any similarily or even higher priced APU.

>>58707475
Yea that's kinda why i bothered making the post. But you had problems reading it, which is why I'm not taking your advice ya dickhead. If i walk up to you in a shop, and you have problems understanding english, i'm not going to take your fucking advice

>>58707523
As you say, kid. I won't stop you wasting your parents money on obsolete tech. Go on and be a retard.

>>58707564
where did I say I was going to definitely buy the apu? where did I say i was going to spend $200 on some fucking part i would swap out for him anyway? jesus christ you assume a lot. maybe you would call in reading in between the lines, but i would just call that projection. are you mentally ill?

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>>58707619
>>What apu should i order for my younger brother?
This is what you said, it's pretty clear you wanted an APU, but now, after i told you how retarded that is, you're backpaddling hard.

>swap out for him anyway
Good luck swapping anything out on FM2+.

I cannot build a computer myself. I am missing my left arm and have minimal use of the right.

With that, are there any companies in the UK that offer a build service? I'm not that bothered about the cost, just that they know what they're doing and have a good reputation.

>>58707450
Yep

>>58707861

OverclockersUK and Novatech both offer a semi-custom build service. I'd lean towards OCUK due to them having a larger range than Novatech.

>>58707861
No idea what you're looking for, but see if you find something here: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/

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How is this for a 600 dollar budget build?

Will be using it for gaming and school work, I would like to be able to upgrade it in the future as well, and yes, I really do have many uses for my optical drive.

>>58708186
>GTX 1060 3GB
it's shit

>>58708186
Get a cheap 240GB SSD, yours is shit, 1060 3G is gimped, see if you can find a RX480 around that price and the Deepcool Tesseract is a cheaper case with two fans preinstalled

Make a new thread

>>58706585
Going from 1600ddr3 to 3000mhz ddr4 averages like 4-5fps better across most games, and you can go up to 4266mhz ram, which provides even more benefit to that
And like you said, gaymen is a task that really doesn't benefit as much from fast ram, swap heavy programs like photoshop will get an even bigger increase in performance from fast ram
And I have a game that uses 9GB of ram, and audio programs that use the full 16 any time I want it to

I thought XMP mode was supposed to just OC my ram, but it ended up turning my kaby lake to 4.5ghz per core, doubling my temperatures.

How do I get just my ram to be xmp?

>>58708788
Did you just turn on XMP

>>58708864
Yeah on my MSI motherboard there is a button for XMP. ON/OFF.

Seems to control both cpu and ram though..
Would prefer not to OC my CPU as its 4.2ghz already. Want to wait a few years before I boost it.

>>58708883
msi motherboard bios*

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