/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for bleeding edge windows

How can i rice my Gentoo GNU/Linux

>>58497009
you do not you learn about the kernel and package development and it rices itself

>>58496927
Yeah that's why you just use Windows 7 SP1 and disable updates.

I use Linux all the time for work and even dual boot it on my main machine, but I just don't see why anyone would use Linux as a primary OS for recreational use.

>>58497009
throw rice at your computer

>>58497036
win7 will die soon. Next gen CPUs aren't compatible

why does my terminal colorscheme influence my vim colorscheme?

>>58497113
A
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>>58497009
>"Gentoo GNU/Linux"
theres no disrto with this name.

>>58497149
what? why?

>>58497164
Well more like OCD, but you get my point.
Ricing is a slippery slope anon, after a while you want every program to fit in with your chosen aesthetic and color palette.

>>58497184
I'm not into ricing, I just want to install something someone else made but it doesn't look how it should look

>>58496927
why is the keyboard plugged into the screen but the mouse is not? USB hub in screen?

>>58497036
>I just don't see why anyone would use Linux as a primary OS for recreational use.

VT-d + QEMU will show you the light

>>58497036
Why? Recreational use:
>browsing YouTube
>Netflix / Amazon Video / anything streaming
>Spotify or music in general
>Gayming

So what exactly is the problem? Linux can do all these. There are even quite a lot AAA games available.

How do you know what's specific to your OS?

I got a pi and put Raspian on it. Apparently its tweaked Debian, but when I followed Spotify's instructions to install it (they even mentioned the instructions being for Debian), it failed.

Obviously the underlying Linux commands and stuff are all the same.
It feels superficially similar to the netbook I put Ubuntu on (makes sense because Ubuntu is derived from Debian?)

But just how far do the similarities go? I was under the impression that all Debian packages should work since Raspian is Debian.

>>58497113
Vim cilorschemes do not require explicit setting of colors but may instead say 'make this group color1' (where color1 is from your Xsettings/terminal).
Most good colorschemes don't however.

>>58497359
All Debian packages should work on Raspbian but Raspbian is made to be lightweight so it doesn't come will all the libraries that Debian comes with.

what do people who aren't developers do on linux

>>58497581
live generic lives
or watch anime

>>58497589
arch devs pls

What is <program_name>ctl? Is this ctl thing some systemd thing or what?

>>58497581

I play games natively or via Wine.

>>58497052
Next gen USB controllers aren't compatible you moron.

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I'm planning on installing gentoo on my new SSD, but it doesn't get here until Wednesday. What can I do right now to speed up the installation process later? Can I precompile the kernel in Arch and copy it to the gentoo installation?

>>58497654
whateverctl is a naming scheme for any cli control application for something else, and systemd uses that convention so you have systemctl to manage daemons and journalctl to manage logs.

>>58497654
>>58497772

I also assumed that ctl is shorthand for control, which kind of makes sense.

>system control
>locale control
>machine control
>timedate control

It's consistent and I like it.

>>58497766
You can install Gentoo into a chroot and then just copy it to the SSD later.

Kind of surprised something that easy doesn't occur to you by yourself and you have to ask, you must be kind of slow.

>>58497871
fuck you tripfag

and thanks

>>58497036
My recreational use is browsing the internet, listen to music, watch a movie every now and then, play roguelikes and play a few steam games that I like, which consists mostly of source games and indie games.
Is such a use case so hard to imagine that you can't see how someone would use Linux recreatively?

Hello, comrades.

I am politely requesting someone to post that meme pic about Fedora, Ubuntu, openSUSE implementing features and Debian whining about the patriarchy.

>>58497956

mkdir /gentoo
cd /gentoo
http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/current-stage3-amd64-systemd/stage3-amd64-systemd-20170113.tar.bz2
tar xf stage3-amd64-systemd-20170113.tar.bz2
systemd-nspawn -D .

^ Gentoo installed. You are welcome.

>>58498029
Er forgot the wget on the http line but yeah that should work for ya. No handbook required.

>>58498029
>muh systemD
people 'install gentoo' to seek refuge from systemD

>>58498046
If you don't use systemd there are like 20 more steps. It makes it easier why wouldn't you.

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Anyone uses XFCE on manjaro?
The weather plugin is outdated now and no longer display accurate astronomical data.

Do I need to update the XFCE or just the XFCE-goodies?
Or I can just install the weather plugin?

Also is there better alternative that you recommend?

>>58496927
The right side might be named as /g/ in a nutshell as well (the part of outdated software)

>>58498054
yeah I was looking to get away from systemd, maybe you could point me in the direction to these extra steps...

>>58498063
>Top10-Characters-Youd-Give-Chocolates-To-3
>Maki
>in a mini skirt + micro, sidetie whale tail combo

>Top10-Characters-Youd-Give-Dick-To-3
FTFY

>>58498113
>Not dipping your dick in chocolate

Why does this happen? That icon is obviously not 47%. Fedora 25 with GNOME Shell on X220.

>>58498147
wat

>>58498089
Gentoo handbook :(
Setting up the chroot environment is actually quite a few steps you have to copy resolv info and bind a bunch of kernel filesystems, systemd-nspawn is TONS easier because it automates it.

>>58498147
what the fuck are you saying? I don't understand. Also, why use the horrible horrible GNOME Shell when you could use superior MATE

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>>58498147
forgot pic

Should I charge people for Windows/Mac binaries

>>58498201
because this
>>58498199
don't use GNOME

>>58498208
People do it actually.

https://www.aseprite.org/#buy

>>58498147
>>58498201
Are you mental? It's just an icon to save space.
You see the fucking volume slider, there's no need for it to be interactive.

The interactive icon is on the taskbar

>>58498199
>>58498176
I'm on a shitty edge connection and it takes me minutes to refresh the page/notice my mistake/correct it ;_;

>>58498276
I'm talking about the fucking battery indicator you retard. It's fucking annoying to use your laptop thinking you have over 50% battery then finding out that in fact you have something like 15%

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>>58497036
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Is devuan going to be fsf approved? From the website, they seem serious on supporting free software.

>>58497871
woah, how did you made that your tripcode is a word? looks fucking cool bro

>>58498529
go away richard. nobody likes you because you're disgusting and ridiculous

>>58497036
>Windows 7 SP1
Why not just use Tiny7?

>>58498542
If you weren't dumb as a brick you'd know that FSF requirements for a "free distro" are fairly simple and straighforward.

There's only one rule
>no-non free software.
No exceptions.

>>58498624
Debian is that and they still won't accept it.

>>58498624
>>58498656
he forgot to mention that there can be no non-free software in the repos either. You can access non-free software in Debian even though it's free by default, so FSF can't approve it

>>58498624
There's more. The documentation also shouldn't recommend nonfree software. Debian for example fails here.

>>58498656
Debian has non-free repository.
Therefore, the one and only rule of "no non-free software" is not followsed.

>>58498542
>>58498656
>>58498685
Why would one care what some arbitrary "foundation" declares what is right and wrong?
The kernel's still have firmware for closed source proprietary software to run the NB/SB/PCI/RAM/CPU controllers anyhow

>>58498656
The only way they would accept it is if it would explode when you try to apt-get some non-free (as in freedom) stuff.

>>58498712
>NB/SB/PCI/RAM/CPU
those are handled by the bios/uefi not the operating system.

debian out of the box comes with a deblobbed kernel with the possibility to install the required non-free firmware

My touchpad is really sensitive, so I've searched for a solution and I found this command

xinput set-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Noise Cancellation" 25 25

The original numbers are 8 8. It really solves the problem but it always comes back to the original number when I turn the laptop off. What should I do to fix this?

>>58498712
They're not declaring it right or wrong. They're simply giving you a list of distros that are purely free software

>>58498712
this, why would someone want to gimp his system

>>58498778
Put it in .xprofile.

.xprofile is supposed to run everytime X starts

>>58498788
s/gimp/de-cuck/

Isn't is good to know that your distro comes completly without cuckware? FSF endures distros aren't "gimped", you can install what you want on them like on every other distro else. The "only free software" requirement is about the default state a free distro should be shipped to the user.

>>58498816
nice english

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Can anyone help me with my alsa config?
I can get it working, but my asoundrc is missing something. When I boot, IEC958 is unchecked and sound doesn't work until I check it, and it resets after rebooting. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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I have some problems with Booting fresh debian installation.

So, basically I shrinked my SSD to 2 different volumes, one contains Windows and the other one was supposed to hold my Debian installation, so I installed debian on that shrinked volume and was asked to overwrite my master boot record with grub(? dont remember), I pressed NO, then the new dialog comes up asking me to install GRUB loader somewhere. I installed it on USB drive hoping that I could boot my linux installation only when using this specific USB drive.

What I expected: Without USB I expected that Win10 will boot normally using his own bootloader (and it does) but when pendrive is plugged and booted from it, the message would pop up asking me to boot up linux or windows.

Result: Win10 boots normally indeed but if I boot that USB with GRUB it just gives "no operating system" message.

So now, I'm locked out from that system, how do I boot into it now? Also, how to make my distro to boot using a pendrive ?

>>58497331
>Netflix
>Spotify
>Gayming
pretty funny you picked these examples. because for me, these are the only cons to linux (elementary os, yes i'm a normie):
netflix only works in chrome
spotify has no official linux client
games that go through wine don't always run flawless

and of course you can work around these problems and fix it, but that takes time and knowhow

>>58498857
GNU/Linux*

>>58498849
Use pulseaudio.

>>58498906
Stop tripfagging.

>>58498857
>spotify has no official linux client
wat? it has dude.
>Gaming
then stop using wine. I was talking about native games which are plenty nowadays

>>58498857
Netflix and Spotify are web apps. Steam is native.

>>58498816
>cuckware
I'd rather have 100% of my hardware working optimally then using some shitty reverse engineered shitpot.

>>58497359
Raspberry Pi has an ARM processor. Unless Spotify was built for ARM you're fucked, not gonna go well trying to install an x86 thing on ARM.

http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/37756/spotify-for-rpi

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>>58498918
Rather fuck around with static .asoundrc configs when you can literally click a green check box or select output from a drop down menu on a per app basis?

>>58498849
>listen to 4chan
>alsa not working correctly
>listen to 4chan

>>58498959
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>58498857
>2017
>not using chrome
why am I even in this thread? obviously populated by tards...

>>58498975
>>>/r/eddit

>>58498986
low quality bait

>>58499002
I'm serious. Chrome is the most used browser in the world. It's fast and got plenty of extensions, best UI, top notch Google integration

>>58499067
nonfree pig disgusting botnet

>>58499067
i just answered your question

>>58499072
>nonfree
as if free software was actually useful

>>58498959
I know not of these green checkboxes. Installed pavucontrol, it only saw analog output. Followed instructions from wiki.debian.com for "Missing playback devices or audio capture" and now pulse audio is broken. mother fuckers

>>58499145
windows doesn't have this problem

>>58499174
I know, right?
But it ended up being a quick fix to get pulseaudio working again

>>58498849

>alsa config

What kind of hardware, special setup or use-case do you have?

>>58499145

>wiki.debian.com

Judging from the few times I skimmed through that Wiki, it's severely outdated or incomplete. Debian's Wiki is seriously poorly maintained and no one probably bothers with it. Therefore, take everything you read on there with a pinch of salt and try to consult some other more recent sources or figure out the practices with common sense.

>>58498959
>>58499067
>>58499092
>>58499174
>>>/out/

>>58499240
>feeding the trolls

>>58499240
chrome advocate here

1. sorry I'm not into hiking
2. I'm 100% serious about Chrome being he best browser

>>58499240
>sending people to outdoors board
pls go back to plebbit

>>58497160
They clearly meant the gnu plus linux distribution Gentoo

>>58499301
How retarded are you?

>>58496927
Seriously what are the difference between linux distros?

Arch
Mint
Ubuntu
tails
Gentoo
Debian
Fedora

WHY are there so many?

are they really that different?

are they not all LINUX?

>>58499323
don't wanna join your retard club, thanks

>>58499343
sad diversion

>>58499342
the main difference is all the error messages you get right on first boot

>>58499342
GNU/Linux*

>>58499355
gentoo never give me error messages

>>58499363
statically linked tarballs

>>58499348
If anyone here uses cinnamon, is there an easy way to make programs stack on the taskbar? I tried the two applets but I'm pretty sure neither of them worked.

>>58499208
Running debian on a AM1 motherboard, using HDMI for the sound output. Is there a better way to set the default audio output?

What's a good, light laptop to run Linux on for just web browsing, watching video, office work and things like that? And no, not a ThinkPad, I already have an X230 and the screen and battery is shit and I might as well put that money towards a new laptop instead of spending money on a new battery and panel.

Is a 1080p IPS Chromebook my best bet? Is there some kind of guide for which Chromebooks run Linux well?

>>58499638
intel atom N450

>>58499452
>>58499208
Update on my understanding, IEC958 is for S/PDIF but for some reason when it is muted so is the HDMI audio output. Probably this is a weird driver/HW configuration thing.

>>58499638
Anything with an Intel Core M. Don't fall for the Atom meme.

What's the best distro to put on an 2010 HP netbook?

Anyone know why during the install of Arch, my work connected flawlessly, but as soon as everything was installed, I booted into it, and tried to configure it, it fails to connect? I don't have Ethernet available because I'm using a shared router.

>>58499858
Wifi, not work.

>>58499858

You didn't specify what you exactly did.

The installation environment automatically acquires an connection (IP from your router with dhcpcd). You most likely didn't do such a step after booting into your new environment.

>>58499301
It's simply called Gentoo since it's a meta distribution with many kernel's and core utilities, not just GNU core utils and the Linux kernel.
>>58499342
Gentoo is not Linux because it is a meta distribution, see reply above.

>>58499904
I used Arch Anywhere to install it because I didn't want to deal with the hassle. Could that be the problem? Something not configured right during installation?

>>58497730
>not using qemu
>it's current year + 2

>>58499858
>>58499876
>>58499936
For some reason I got the same problem. During the installation I got internet and when I when I boot on it, it doesn't. I had to enable dhcpcd with

systemctl enable dhcpcd.service

I'm using ethernet tho, maybe it won't be the exact same problem

Alright so I installed archlinux, I have a window tiling system (i3) and i downloaded chrome. But I'm a beginner, and now for the life of me I can't figure out how to launch chrome. Everything else was difficult, so there were tutorials, but this basic kinda thing there isn't a single guide for.

>>58500033
i3 usually comes with dmenu
do Mod + d and then type chrome. Otherwise install dmenu.

>>58499936

I didn't notice your WLAN comment and not having a wired connection. That kind of changes things.

Either way, yes, that's why you don't use shitty abstraction layers which are against the very core principle of Arch Linux. Spending your time troubleshooting something that no one but the guy who wrote that shitty script messed up, you could have spent that time installing Arch on your own.

What are you trying to use to connect? Install Network Manager and use nmtui, it's as easy as it gets with that. If you have an X environment you can also use the proper Network Manager GUI like the nm-applet.

>>58500021

That's not a problem, that's expected behaviour.

>>58500054
I literally had to toggle my Wifi switch.
Jesus christ.

>>58499342
There isn't much differences. They all does the same thing, you can install the same software...
The differences is somehow the point of view of the distribution maintainers.
>what software are pre-installed on your base system
>which DE it's using by default (if any)
>how should it handle updates, upgrades...
A new user will only see the UI that differ. A more advanced users will start to think his distribution is superior because of his package manager or because some other stupid reason he heard of

>>58499858
You need to install kernel with proprietary modules for your wifi card.

>>58500033

Your window manager type has nothing to do with the way you launch programs.

>>58500050

It doesn't "usually" come with dmenu, because it's not related or created under the same roof as i3. Some distributions might suggest it during install, but Arch certainly doesn't install it automatically (even if it is in the optional packages).

Regardless of dmenu, how can someone be in a position to require an "advanced" window manager (a tiling one), but not know how to launch a program? Surely he knows how to open a terminal emulator. Because that's all he has to do to launch a program by typing its name in, since the executable should be placed inside his PATH as long as he's using a normal distribution and installs packages with a package manager.

>>58496927
Does anyone else see tux's head as similar darth vader's mask in this comic?

>>58500122
>It doesn't "usually" come with dmenu, because it's not related or created under the same roof as i3.
What is i3-dmenu-desktop? It's not made by the same people, but it's closely integrated.

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>>58499906

>meta distribution

>>58497265
>VT-d + QEMU will show you the light
But I like using my discreet GPU on Linux.

How would I "link" a custom shell script to the launch of a program?

For example if I was to run Chrome I would want botnet.sh to run at the same time.

Running Mint.

>>58498849
Final update, it seems that the alsa-utils service which is supposed to store and restore alsa settings is not running at boot which is why the settings aren't preserved.

>>58499799
Would I be better off to just buy a """consumer""" laptop in the $300 and under range instead? Storage space would be the biggest problem but even a 128 GB SSD would most likely be enough, and pretty much no Chromebook comes with more than 32 GB

>>58500199
But you can still have a dGPU while using qemu, that's what I'm doing with my RX 460 (for linux) and GTX 980ti (for qemu).

>>58500258
well if you already wrote one, you can surely write another.

>>58500359
Too weak. I play some native games and emulate. The RX 460 is too underpowered for that.

I installed lubuntu on my chromebook with seabios and now audio won't go through the speakers or the headphone jack... What do?

>>58500258
add this to your .bashrc

alias chrome='chrome && botnet.sh'

>>58500454
check alsamixer and see if anything is muted

>>58500451
than play the games in your Qemu machine, the emulators are probably available on windows. And the RX 460 is powerful enough for any pre-ps3/xbox360 emulator, mine can handle a 4k monitor with tons of desktop effects while watching down-scaled 8k video.

>>58500470

Pretty sure that would launch his botnet.sh after closing Chrome.

>>58500258

Literally spend 2 minutes looking at a Bash guide for beginners. It's 2 lines. Hint: use the "&".

>>58500408

Maybe he didn't write it, but found it on the internet.

>>58500509
>than play the games in your Qemu machine
If there's a Linux native version, then I will always pick that.

>the emulators are probably available on windows
True, but my autism likes to build them on Linux.

>And the RX 460 is powerful enough for any pre-ps3/xbox360 emulator
Post examples. Can you run The Last Story with no trouble on 4K? I doubt it. If you can, then it's good news.

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I'm in a bit of a predicament /fglt/ and I wonder if you could help me out. I need a laptop for programming, mainly C and Python for college. Don't got the money right now, but I do have a cheap $200 lappy that I got 2 years ago that came with Win7. It was already straining itself with Win7 but now it really chokes with Win10.

I'm completely new to Linux but I heard that Mint is a good starting point OS that is not very resource intensive is that true and is it good for programming as well?

>>58500560
The last story is for what system?

>>58500570
Linux and Unix is a good platform for leaning, developing and deploying C.

I suggest you install xubuntu instead of Mint. Mint has some update issues that undermines security

>>58499852
puppy linux

>>58500570
Debian testing minimal install, mint has way to many pre-loaded packages, making it as slow if not more slow than windows. Plain Ubuntu is also not bad.

>>58500470
Nothing is muted, only detecting my hdmi port

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Hello, what distro should I put on my new thinkpad laptop? :)

What are some DEs/WMs with decent Wayland support other than gnome?

>>58500620

>making it as slow if not more slow than windows
The number of packages doesn't make your computer "slower", retard. Stop filling up your harddrive with your Japanese cartoon porn then, because according to you it's slowing your computer down.

Hint: not every installed package runs in the background.

hey fglt
i just installed ubuntu for the first time in years.
Feels good, super fast, lightweight
Also, it's nice because I'm trying to cut back on vidya and focus more on school

>>58500583
It's for the Wii. dolphin is great and runs it, but it's very demanding.

>>58500560
>the last story
>weeb game
>don't want to torrent that shit
give me a download link and I'll test it

>>58500570
>I'm completely new to Linux but I heard that Mint is a good starting point OS that is not very resource intensive is that true and is it good for programming as well?

Mint is a derivative of Ubuntu. It uses a different desktop environment, and it does some other package management-related things.

There were some security concerns with Mint as-of last year, with how they managed their website and neglected to apply security patches from upstream. They're not usually recommended right now.

With regards to dev tools, it doesn't matter what distribution you pick. They'll all supply gcc & python, and you'll be interacting with them through a terminal.

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>>58500709
Welcome

>>58500708
It does when many of them are opened on start up. It's also very inconvenient to have a bunch of packages you won't need installed on your system.

>>58500722
Fuck if I know where it's at right now. Wii roms aren't out there publicly. Just drop it then, I was just giving an example of a demanding game.

>>58500750
Fuck, i wish i had a drive that could read wii dvds, I have a hundred+ games for my wii.

>>58500747

>It does when many of them are opened on start up
Read again: only a minority of packages does that, idiot. Even then, autostarting installed packages is a stupid thing and the only distribution which does that as far as I know is Debian/Ubuntu. You can turn that off, so it's not an argument.

>It's also very inconvenient to have a bunch of packages you won't need installed on your system.
How is it inconvenient? It doesn't affect you, unless you have a hard drive from the 90s size-wise.

>>58496927
What distro is best at power management?
I have a thinkpad with a dying battery, and FreeBSD is really shit for that

>>58500804
Prepare for people suggesting their favourite distro. It most likely won't differ much. The programs you run will likely make the difference.

>>58500804

Every distribution is the same, because you can install the same software on it.
Stop being an idiot and thinking there's a distribution for every tiny use-case.

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https://libreboot.org/

Will there ever be truly free laptops that aren't from 2008?

Not knocking old Thinkpads, however it would be great not paying ~$700 for legacy hardware.

>>58500787
It's just very cumbersome to have so many useless packages in the applications menu, it's a pain to remove them all.

>>58500861

Only GUI programs appear in those menus. That's a very small minority compared to the number of packages installed.

>>58500946
Mint has both problems, to many GUI programs and too many packages.

>>58500857
Probably not.

Hardware manufacturers will pay through the nose to keep the user locked down.

There are effort to render IME and all similar technologies useless but all the security holes discovered by various enthusiasts that could be used to achieve it are patched within the next microcode update.

To make a modern x86-based machine free you have to invest a lot of time and resources to reverse engineer everything on it.
No company is interested in doing this because a) it brings no money b) you would get sued by OEM day one.
And enthusiasts do not have the combined time, money, resource and knowledge to do this.

In 2017 there is only 1 motherboard model that is considered truly free which is an ASUS D16 server motherboard with custom firmware that was reverse engineered by a group of autists.
But the most basic configuration with a single AMD Opteron CPU, 16G of Ram and some basic GPU you have to pay over 4 thousand dollars. For the same cost you get a full-blown prebuilt workstation from an OEM like dell with a modern xeon CPU, ecc memory and a workstation gpu.
The price of freedom is expensive. Too expensive.

At this point our only hope are RISC architectures (like ARM, Power9+, RISC-V etc gaining enough traction to replace the x86 architecture which is at the core of the problem)

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>>58501075
That was very informative. Thank you.

I'm thinking of just buying a 2008 Thinkpad and installing Libreboot myself, however I surmise it will be quite complicated. Perhaps if I stumble upon $700, I'll shell it out to Ministry of Freedom. I hope better, affordable alternatives come out in the future. I'd be willing to pay 1.5x of what I'd pay for comparable propriety-locked system.

>>58501152
Probably the easiest (and i assume the cheapest) way to get a stallkike approved computer would be getting an ASUS C201 which is an ARM based chromebook that uses a chinese Rockchip CPU which (surprise surprise) does not require proprietary firmware even in the default configuration.

The process of loading Libreboot on it it's fairly straightforward.

https://libreboot.org/docs/install/c201.html

I honestly think that their method of write protection (the screw in the motherboard that acts like a switch) is one of the most ingenious methods of making a device tamper-free without completely locking the device I've ever seen.

I would actually buy one If I had "money I had no use for" but unfortunately I'm eastern european.

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>Emacs's tramp mode
absolutely great stuff man

>>58496927
>/**Experimental:
>*Wire chat - add @helix to get started
>*/
you're kidding, right?

>>58501842
>>>/r/eddot

>>58501871
I know you came from there, now fuck off back

>>58501900
no need to get mas just see >>58501871

I can't believe that these threads have become such a circlejerck that they even made a fucking chatroom to circlejerk from their phones

>>58501914
kill yourself cancerfag

>I can't believe that these threads have become such a circlejerck that they even made a fucking chatroom to circlejerk from their phones
>>>/r/eddit

>>58501971
no need to get triggered just see >>58501871 or >>58501974

lol /fglt/ is a walking corpse

>>58501842
OP can't into IRC

>>58501994
they all went to the chat that you were whining about

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why didn't you faggots use IRC if you needed a chat so much?

>>58502042
>>58501871
>>58501914
>>58501974
>>58501992
>samefagging so hard

>>58502093
Why use an external chat?
Whatever they choose to use won't allow ~60 users named 'Anonymous'.

>>58502121
you don't realize what 'samefagging' means
>>>/r/eddit

>>58502142
>they
it's just you faggot OP, go find friends IRL or on reddit

>>58502093
I would be facepalming too if someone had such a shitty eyesight and had not noticed it until they started working with computers. Dear god. 20 cm from the screen? What, she can't afford eyeglasses?

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>>58501152

>>58502093
OP is a newfag who can't into IRC
there's proably no one in that chatroom besides him
just ignore it

>>58502169
>it's just you faggot OP, go find friends IRL or on reddit
how cute.
how are you so sure i'm not mining (You)'s. you retards really eat up anything related to kde_shill.

>>58496927
This comic would be more accurate if Windows 10 kicked the shit out of the kid to install the update but UPDATE FAILED so Windows 10 walks out the door and walks right back in and this just repeats ad infinitum

>>58502230
>how are you so sure i'm not mining (You)'s
since you're mining for attention, I guess that's an implication

>>58502230
Hello KDE Shill

what the heck is "Wire"

>>58502344
botnet

>>58502315
I'm actually 'Physician Assistant Gnome Free Advertiser'

>>58502312
>mining for attention
if that pleases you

>>58502344
voice/text chat. don't waste your time with it

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Would this be a good partitioning scheme for dual booting W10 and some distro?

240GB SSD

/root
/home
Combined 60gb

NTFS Windows 10 180gb since games are no less than 50gb

NTFS 500gb hard drive for general media storage for both systems


I have 8gb of RAM and buying another 8gb later this month maybe, so I dunno if I need a swap partition.

>>58502344
>The researcher praised Wire for its open approach to security, but identified serious issues that still need addressing. These include a man-in-the-middle attack on voice and video communications, possible audio and video leakage depending on unspecified codec parameters, the fact that all user passwords are uploaded to Wire's servers, significant attack surface for code replacement in the desktop client, and the fact that the server is still closed-source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_%28software%29

>>58502361
you're actually a cancerfag and should end yourself

>>58502344
some shitty dumbphone app like whatsapp, aka cancer

>>58502394
and you're a triggered

>>58502392
>>58502392
I'm worried for you anon, you seem to be on the verge of killing yourself, pls seek help

guys, this is a friendly thread, not a tell-each-others-to-kill-themselves thread

>>58502462
pls stop

>>58502490
kysOS is looking promising.

>>58501871
>>58501914
>>58501974
>>58502042
>>58502142
>>58502230
>>58502361
>>58502412
>samefagging so hard

Alright, so if I have my asoundrc configured to the right soundcard and device, somehow the channel for that card/device gets muted.
But if I don't have the asoundrc, volume is restored correctly but since the card/device isn't configured there's no sound.
There's no auto-mute to disable. What do?

>>58502538
install pulseaudio again then kys

>>58501871
>>58501914
>>58501974
>>58501992
>>58502042
>>58502142
>>58502230
>>58502312
>>58502361
>>58502392
>>58502412
>this ammount of circlejerking
>mfw /fglt/ has the desktop thread syndrome

>>58496927
desu this triggers me a bit
but not that hilarious claim that you always spout out about how windows forces updates
the fact that even people that use linux and believe they are somehow intelligent don't get that this isn't true and you can just disable automatic updates and popus about it

>>58502550
> kys
> Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
pulseaudio came with the debian install, but pulseaudio doesn't seem to be able to see the sound card devices as the only output device is "Analog Output"

>>58502553
/fglt/ is bankrupt and finished

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>>58502553
thanks bruh, you got me over quota for the night
word of advice: don't samefag so much

I want to try out Manjaro. I currently use Xubuntu with i3, so I figured I'd try Manjaro-i3. Has anyone used it? Does it work well or should I try a different flavor?

>>58502600
Don't use Manjaro. If you want easy-mode Arch, try e.g. Antegros.

>>58502620
your trip is foreign to me.
what board and thread[s] do you hail from?

>>58502620
got lost on your way to >>>/r/eddit?

>>58502674
>this faggot is still here
off yourself already

>>58502645
I was formerly known as NezumipFxw.

>>58502696
>>58502720
nobody cares faggot, gtfo

>>58502740
--purge yourself

Help.
I have an i5 4590 and MSI rx480. Running Linux Mint 18.1 with Cinnamon. The video drivers are proprietary, straight from AMD site.

The problem is screen tearing when playing video (mkv mostly) in full screen. It is especially noticeable in the place of the panel. What can I do to make it disappear?

>>58502900
What player are you using?
Also, are you using AMDGPU, like you should?

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Pretty new to Linux.

I got reaver a few days ago as I won't have a proper wifi connection for the rest of this week. I know how to use it, but how do I make myself untraceable? Saw online that I can use a "zombie" and display my IP as someone else's, but I have no idea how to do that

>>58502926
I tried using Xplayer (Mint default) and VLC.
Yes, I'm using AMDGPU.

>>58503035
Try MPV with the opengl driver (mpv -vo opengl <file>).

>>58503068
Thanks, I'll try that.

Fedora or Debian Testing for my new XPS13? Will be running GNOME (Wayland)

What is the easiest way to rename files after patterns based on a list?

Say I have a file called alloneword.jpg and I want to rename it to "All One Word.jpg"
If I have a list, where "All One Word" is a part, how would I do this?

>>58503068
That actually solved my problem. Thanks again.

>>58500976
are you for real? you're astoundingly retarded.

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>>58502976
anybody?

>>58503203
You can try using opengl output driver in vlc as well (says it's experimental).

Where would I put startx to make it run when I log in from the tty, without having to type it in manually everytime?

>>58503419
.bashrc/.zshrc

>>58502273
Sounds like you've never used Windows 10

>>58503445
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mis take in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>58503534
What are you so mad about? Shesh.

>>58503534
>>>/r/eddot

>>58503534
Just put them in the filter brah

>>58503760
>brah
looks like youre lost, your normie friends are over here >>>/b/

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>IRC
So.. How did the IRC go? Dead? Had to merge with /sqt/?

>>58500834
>>58500804
let me rephrase
What OS family has the best built in battery management

>>58504052
systemDOS

>>58504079
dank you
a server OS isn't exactly good at being light on power

>>58504079
Serious question what do people have against chromium based browsers? It's open source and you can use a fork with no google integration if you want

>>58504173
Whoops, wasn't meant to quote.. General question

>>58504173
Chromium browser ,still, uses some chrome binaries given to them from google
Its questionable whether browsers based on chromium also use those binaries

What am I doing wrong here?

if [$a < 50]; then echo failed; elif [$a < 80 && $a >= 50]; then echo passed; else echo distinction; fi

Says 50 and 80 is not a file or directory?

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Can I switch GPUs on the fly? For example, let's say I have a RX480 and RX460 on the motherboard and use the former as the main card on Linux, can I switch to the RX460 to passthrough the RX480 to the KVM or do I need to reboot regardless?

>>58497265
>tfw don't know how to get this to work on my Sabertooth X58 motherboard

>>58498854
You can boot from a livecd and mount your debian partition to see what went wrong.

>>58504304
yes

>>58504298
>

elif [$a < 80 -a $a >= 50];

is what stands out to me

>>58504403
That's great. What's the catch? Running two cards doesn't seem that crazy to me anymore. I might just upgrade to Zen on the summer.

>>58503170
Fedora without a doubt, Debian Testing is trash.

>>58504446
the only catch is that you have to have the hardware that supports it.

if your motherboard/cpu doesn't support hardware passtrhough then youre bonked

>>58503170
Either one is fine. Fedora is shipping with Wayland I believe. I'd rather run Debian Sid, but that's just my preference.

>>58504489
>the only catch is that you have to have the hardware that supports it.
I'll make sure of it. AMD doesn't disable features from their CPUs, so I should be fine on that front. I would need to read a guide on how to setup a GPU passthrough and a way to change my graphics card so I can use the most powerful one on both systems.

>>58504504
Thank you for the response, the only thing that bugs me about Sid is the lack of a security team and no security updates, but I suppose those come from upstream?

Please excuse my English, It is not my native spoken language.

>>58504298
[ and ] shouldn't be beside anything ie, "[ $a -lt 50 ]"
In sh, use -lt, -gt for numbers and <, > for strings (in perl it's the other way around)
If doing multiple tests, do

[ $a -lt 80 ] && [ $a -ge 50 ]

For maximum autism, quote all variables unless you want word splitting. And quote what you want to echo.

PSA:

This is a friendly reminder not to use any DE that does not run on Wayland.

If you are using xorg/xserver you can not ever assume that your system is even remotely secure, and not completely open and vulnerable to attacks.

>>58504699
>&&
-a is the correct syntax
fix your shit

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How do you do xmodmap, xbindkeys, xcape things in wayland?

>>58504623
Both Testing and Unstable are insecure and vulnerable, if you want security use Debian stable or pick another distribution (Fedora/OpenSUSE/Arch)

>>58505116
I just want to say, good job on using Wayland, you are on your way to a more secure computing experience.

Good job :^)

>>58504837
Why would -a be the correct syntax?

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>>58504699
>>58504837
>>58505365
>>58504406
Fuck Bash anyways. Why is the language so autistic?

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>>58505365
>>58505425

>>58503252
>not an argument

>>58502976
>>58503258
Buy a vpn, nigger.

>>58504832
>NSA employed redhat shill
go suck poettering's cock

>>58505563
Don't you ever get bored of your shitty overused jokes?

>>58505563
Enjoy your lack of security, idiot.

>>58497052
I don't get how they made W7 incompatible with the new CPUs. Do they refuse to boot old OS? Doesn't that mean old linux distros won't run either? Do they just mean it isn't officially supported?

>>58496927
what is this "gentoo" I keep hearing about?

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>>58505793
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/windows-7-wont-work-intels-current-next-gen-cpus/

>>58505799
slang for "windows 10"

>>58505968
Oh, when I thought people were telling me to install a freedom respecting highly customizable OS, they were just telling me to install a microsoft botnet? that's a bit akward

>>58506085
it's 4chan "culture" at its finest
say one thing and mean the total opposite

>>58506123
I mean, I wasted all that time installing gentoo, and I can't even meme properly since I installed the wrong OS?

>>58505821
>Windows 7 was designed nearly 10 years ago before any x86/x64 SOCs existed. For Windows 7 to run on any modern silicon, device drivers and firmware need to emulate Windows 7’s expectations for interrupt processing, bus support, and power states, which is challenging for WiFi, graphics, security, and more. As partners make customizations to legacy device drivers, services, and firmware settings, customers are likely to see regressions with Windows 7 ongoing servicing

Basically, they turn CPUs into fucking SoCs? Fucking hell.

Anyone have any experience with Solus? How would it be for a daily driver?

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>>58506138
happens to everyone. since you have installed the real gentoo, consider sampling it more.

>>58506158
ask kevin, he's pretty enthusiastic about it

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Any of you dual boot? After two years of backlog, I'm incredibly tempted putting Windows on a small SSD. Does m$ still doesn't like it when there's an existing OS before installing? I remember fucking shit up two years ago. I can't GPU passthrough with my current hardware, but an eventual Zen build a few months after the release might fix that.

>>58506158
well, it eats up 20Gigs on your hard drive that you can't get back when you try to install a better OS

>>58506412
>I'm incredibly tempted putting Windows on a small SSD.
what for?

>>58506739
Videogame backlog mainly. I like them, but there is no immediate rush in playing them.

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What am I supposed to do here?

>>58507231
cry

>>58507231
btw you don't need to convert them, they already work as bdf

Thoughts on the QTWebengine drama? Will KDE be botnet?

>get laptop specifically for linux
>basically first time with anything other than ubuntu
>pick debian cause want lightweight for cheap laptop
>doesn't have "sudo" installed by default
it was really fucking with me when "sudo x" would return "no such command sudo". Thankfully it was an easy fix.
I have found that I am liking linux so much I wan to install it on my desktop computer which is just for gaymz now. But looking through steam and GOG linux libraries is blowing my mind.

>>58507960
https://wiki.qt.io/QtWebEngine
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374808
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2017-01/msg00009.html

tl;dr kde migrates their programs to qtwebengine which contains chromium under the hood

>>58508061
is you set a root password during installation, you don't have sudo, if you don't set one, you get sudo automatically

>>58504832
>tfw headless master race niggers

Is there a way in ranger (file manager) to edit an existing filename? so to keep using the filename and not give an entirely new one like with :rename

>>58508061
Debian wasn't friendly for me at all and I moved to Ubuntu for a week. I came back and have been enjoying it for three years now. Debian Sid is pretty nice, but I've had it almost break on me once with an apt upgrade removing almost a GB of packages. Having THE debian based distro is very advantageous since Ubuntu is very popular.
On the games, the Linux game library is still lacking, but it has some nice titles. Wine isn't perfect either, but less demanding games run neatly on it if you wish to use it.

>>58508524
GNU/Linux*

>>58498622
not him, but the only thing i use windows for requires 64bit windows, and tiny7 is 32bit-only

>>58502600
I used Majaro for about 2 mintues. After installing it, it would kernel panic and I couldn't find a solution, so I installed Antergos instead.

When I tried it out on a VM, it seemed like rolling release Ubuntu without the botnet. Probably decent if you have no idea what you're doing.

Ive been googling furiously and I have successfully setup Elysium WoW 1.12 in playonlinux, however I can't get sound to work.

I am not 100% sure what is going on but after lots of dicking with it I think the problem can be fixed by switching from alsa to pulseaudio but for some reason I can't do that.

I'm not really sure what is wrong but none of the forum solutions I have found match up to my problem and I was wondering if someone can help me figure out what I need to know to fix it or do it differently.

Also I am having gross graphics problems, but one thing at a time.

What is the absolute oldest GPU the linux kernel has support for in the newest releases? I kind of want to build a really old PC that still supports Linux.

Hi all, how do you restrict apache access to a Centos 7 folder? IE I dont want a folder that is being hosted on my Cent OS box to be publicly accessible

>>58509129
check permissions on folder and user

>>58509443
nice. just went through and did nginx on a tutorial and I believe part of the tutorial covers my ass on security. Ill verify but I want my shit locked down.

80K attempted logins -.- 5 days.

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What's a pdf annotation program for linux that lets me add inline text annotations without a box around them?

I used okular but the box is un-resizable, and sometimes is smaller than the amount of text, so I have to click it to show the full annotation.

Pic related is the type of annotation I want, what PDF reader can do this in linux well? I used to use Foxit for this on windows.

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>>58509677
Here is an example of Okular annotations, "acid" is cut off to "aci" and the textboxes have backgrounds, i want them to be transparent

I have a 2010 Macbook Pro running Linux Mint 18.1. With the nouveau video driver, the laptop won't sleep when I close the lid. With the nvidea driver, sleeping works, but brightness controls are messed up (I have to close and open the laptop before the new brightness takes effect).

>>58509677
GNU/Linux*

>>58505793
>>58505821
It'll work just fine faggot x86 is x86, but none of the fancy new power state and energy savings shit will be supported.

NEW THREAD

>>58509963
>>58509963
>>58509963

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>>58496927
>mfw 14 core Xeon + pcie m.2 ssd + 64GB ram
>mfw can't even tell when it's updating