/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>>58392183
I can't wait man.

I just can't wait.

>>58392267
ryzen will be 5% slower and 10% cheaper.
Not worth the wait;

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What risks do I run with putting high-capacity HDDs in my system? I read the Puget Systems article and I'm considering expanding my storage with a 4-6TB WD Red drive because they have silencing technology and pretty good reliability it seems like.

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I forgot to post a picture in the last thread, but here's the most up to date version of my build. Only thing I've bought so far is the RAM, so feel free to suggest improvements/optimizations.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VtLP7h

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nice video game consoles :^)

Here are the parts I'm thinking of buying for my first build. What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mKK49W

>>58392588
I had three 5TB and three 4TB in my tower. They're cheaper than buying 4 or 5 1TB hard drives. People are afraid that a dead hard drive might cause them to lose all that data, but those same idiots don't understand the concept of backing up your data on a different hard drive, DVDs, or tapes.

...How reliable are the old WD 10K RPM workstation hard drives? I've had them for a decade and I'm worrying I might need to upgrade before everything rips pepperoni

>>58392183
so I'm assuming now is a bad time to build a machine, due to AMD finally stepping up their game?
how long should I wait for new stuff or significant price drops on skylake and other current architectures

>>58392786
>meme mainboard
>2400 RAM
>no SSD
>NEX
>shitty meme keyboard

>>58392552
10% cheaper?

If AMD wants to bring any competition to the game, it's going to have to be a lot more than "10% cheaper."

>>58392854
>meme mainboard
Which mobo chipset would you recommend?
>shitty meme keyboard
Is there any particular keyboard that you like to use instead?

>>58392880
He's making wild speculation and isn't even right. Ryzen is outperforming Broadwell E while underclocked and on a validation board.

>>58393027
Keyboard's fine for 60 bucks. Mine is worth over three times that.

You could go cheaper on the motherboard and get essentially the same features, but in an uglier package.

NEX PSUs are B-tier. You also don't really need full modular practically speaking, semi-modular does the job exactly the same.

>>58393027
>chipset
Z97, it's cheaper.

>>58393129
>z97
It doesn't show up on pc parts picker, I don't know why. Which is weird because i can find a z97 mobo on newegg.

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Where should I start upgrading this?
Can play most games on more than 60fps on Medium to High

>>58393182
Add it manually, PCP can be buggy sometimes.

>>58393193
When quad core Zen releases

>>58393182
it doesn't show up because the 6600k is lga 1151 not 1150

go for z170, z97 boards are in scare supply, and there will probably be deals for them

Which power supply should I choose?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D37Xhq

>>58393268
>>58393201
Would it be worth it to just change my CPU and find a z97 or is it better to just get a z170?

>>58393277
I'd worry about buying hearing protection first.

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PowerColor Red Devil 8GB 480 @ $235 ($215 MIR) AMAZON

ASUS Strix 390X 8GB $175 ($150? HAGGLE)
CRAIGS

WHICH ONE /G/

I want the 390 because it's cheaper and I'm not trying to put too much into this old 2500k but I want to last until RYZEN 4c8t

>>58393304
The best you could do would be to get a new Kaby Lake CPU for raw power, put it on a Z97 mobo since they are cross-compatible and OC it (auto OC is fine).

>>58393347
>Kaby Lake
>Z97 mobo
You're going to fry that shit.

>>58393347
>>58393390
So should I just stick with a z170?

>>58393305
Why?

>>58393496
>>58393390
No, Z97 is the way.

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>>58393502
WD Blacks are loud. Four of them would be even louder. If you need mass storage like that, use WD Reds. They have anti-vibration technology and are built for mass storage. Plus they're quieter
>>58393510
>LGA 1150
>For a 1151 pin CPU
You dumb motherfucker.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGccyf

>USA
>Not really a strict budget but 2500 is about where I was willing to draw a line.
>Gaming, Media, Twitch, Digital Artwork, video editing in the future.

Here's what I've got. I placed a pretty high priority on achieving the black and silver aesthetic. Only parts I'm still waiting on are the Mobo, Processor, and HDD.

I took a lot of inspiration for this build from this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zd4CmG

I really would like to get custom cables and cable everything the way this guy did as it looks really organized and the silver cables would fit the black and silver theme I was trying to stick to.

When it comes to placement of the radiators for the CPU and GPU I would do it the way he did if possible but I'm not sure if my case will allow that. This will be my first time building a PC.

>pic related is the look i'm going for

>>58393530
But they are compatible m8, don't be an idiot.

>>58393567
Not the anon you are replying to, but 1150s are not compatible with 1151s.

>>58393595
But they are m8, they are both from the 11xx series, that's why i'm telling him to do this. :)

>>58393613
No they aren't. Take ten seconds and google it.

>>58393646
>current year
>he doesn't know how compatibility works
WEWLAD

>>58393736
Care to red pill me on that then? Cite some sources.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zq7Xhq
this is my first pc build, how is it?

>>58393804
Everything you need to know can be found here: https://ark.intel.com/

>>58393804
socket 1156, 1155, 1150, 1151 are different.
You shouldn't need sources on this. try fucking google you mong.

>>58393842
That's a mini itx board, for that case you'll want a micro atx or full atx board.
>>58393849
This isn't telling me anything I don't already know.
>>58393854
No shit. You're replying to the wrong anon. I know they're different, but >>58393567
says otherwise. So I was asking where they got that info from.

>>58393736
1151 sockets aren't compatible with 1150 mobos. This is baby stuff you faggot

>>58392183
Is there a reason to get a 1440p@60hz IPS monitor if 4K@60hz IPS monitors are less than 50 bucks more expensive where I live? I don't really need 4K but for only 50 additional bucks I feel like I might as well just go for one.

>>58393954
already switched out the case for a micro thanks man

>>58393842
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V9j2zM
Cheaper, better, reuseable case for mATX/ATX builds, the cooler is optional but recommended if noise is an issue for you.

>>58393955
Calm your autism, m8. Go to Intel's website, it even says you're wrong.

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mini atx workhorse

>>58394045
Right from intel's website, can you not read?
>Sockets Supported FCLGA1151
http://ark.intel.com/products/88191/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

>>58393804
>>58393854
He's fucking trolling the newfag, you mongs
Christ, whatever happened to subtlety?

>>58394045
>http://ark.intel.com/products/82012/Intel-Z97-Chipset?wapkw=z97#@compatibility

I don't like Newegg shipping.

>>58394169
>>58394123
You need to look at Intel's dedicated compatibility page over at ark.intel.com, it's written black on white there.
Please don't tell me i need to spoon-feed you on how to read and navigate on the web in the current year, too, since you don't know anything about technology.

>>58394277
You uh.. see the ark in my link here?
>>58394169

>>58392183
anybody here have a Corsair HX850 PSU?

>>58394312
You need to look at general cross-compatibility, m8, it's not that hard.

>>58394087
>i5-7600
>Z170
For what fucking purpose?

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>>58392183
two additional corsair 120 blue LED fans included,case is an F3 but they didnt have it as an option..not into gayming but may get a midrange card..not sure it would fit mind

is it a good time to get a new rig?
Or the prices just drop continuously?

Will consoles work on monitors through HDMI without any settings changed?
Also, will the reduced response time apply to consoles running on a lagless monitor through HDMI?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRTnNN

Here is my current build, thinking about switching to a core i7 around tax time cause i'm sick of getting 20fps in arma 3.
R8 and h8 pls

>>58394488
Wait for Zen, it's comming soon.

>>58392593
If you won't be overclocking just get an i5-6500 and use the stock cooler. Judging by the graphics card I assume this is for gaming, and the 6500 is more than enough.

>>58394592
Yeah, I'm waiting to see how zen turns out before i make any final purchases

>>58394617
Not that anon but is the GTX 1070 overkill for gaming or is it just right?

>>58394707
If you're playing at 1080p, its overkill. A 1060 is fine for anything at 1080p right now. If you're planning on gaming in 4k or 1440p a 1070 might be justified.

>>58394707
1070 is good for 1080p/144hz and 1440p/60hz gaming

>>58394700
It's the best thing we can do right now, i'm /waitingforzen/, too. If AMD drops the ball on this there's always the reliable 6600K/6700K option.

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Planing on building this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZnpHnn

It's for 1080p 120hz gaming.
Not sure if i should wait a little longer until Ryzen/Vega are released and the prices for Intel/Nvidia drop

>>58394826
If you're willing to wait, there's no harm in waiting.

>>58394826
That cooler is way overkill for a locked chip.

>>58394844
desu it's just for the look

>>58394826
>wait a little longer until Ryzen/Vega
It's worth the wait, so be patient.
>the prices for Intel/Nvidia drop
Yeah no, it will snow in hell before those jews drop prices on anything.

>>58394423
Because its for gaming and it says gaming on the mobo, duh.

>>58394455
bump

Is a RX480 too much for 1080p gayman?

>>58394455
Yes

>>58394935
Yea
>>58394948
Not if you have a pretty high refresh rate monitor or want it to last for a while. There really isn't such a thing as too much, if you have the money.

>>58394880
well, maybe they drop a little over here in europe.
Cheapest 1070 is 430$ and the 6500 is 215$

>>58394948
Just about right, 1080p60 fps/hz is literally perfect, at 144hz youll get probably 70-90 fps depending on title and settings used assuming these setting are full ultra. But since youll be a good part above 60 fps in most games at 1080p yeah geyt a 480.

>>58394991
>>58395004
Thanks.
Monitor is a 5yo+ Benq, max res 1600x1200 60hz, may upgrade it later on in the year.

>>58395000
>here in europe
Not going to happen, i have an eye on prices since october and they are ridiculously high right now.

>>58395073
Without upgrading 480 is absolutely just fine, do get a 1080p monitor or even 1440p 480 can do it too

Is a Thermaltake Toughpower a good psu?

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I'm a complete pleb who's intimidated at the prospect of building a pc because I'm clumsy and break things

How much of a ripoff is this pre-built for $1299?

my upcoming rig:

Zen 8core
Vega gpu, ITX version.
370x ITX.
Cryorig C7 Compact CPU Cooler
500watt FlexATX psu
2x 40mm fans
gpu riser (reversed)

and my custom 3litre case. it will be the worlds smallest 8core true gaming system. nothing comes close to it in terms of power/size ratio.

>>58395152
Don't do this the entire build is sideways. It would be bad for you head to try to use it.

>>58395156

forgot the m.2 ssd ffs. samshit 960pro 1tb.

and with vesa mounts the system can stick right on the back of my 1440p 144hz freesync ips monitor.

shit will be glorious,

>>58395152
>I'm a complete pleb who's intimidated at the prospect of building a pc
It's not like you have a choice.

After installing the OS on a new machine, in which order should I install drivers?
I am planning on
>booting install from USB
>motherboard from CD then online updates
>graphics card from CD then online updates
>sound card from CD then online updates
>mouse from CD then online updates
>Windows updates from online

Is there anything you think I've missed or should do differently?

>>58394027
>cheaper
>better

Generic RAM.
Cpu cooler for locked cpu ?
You just went for low prices this isn't better at all

>>58395152
Just build it yourself. I'm a dumbass and I managed it.

I kept thinking I'd damaged it by scraping the mobo on the standoffs or by dropping the CPU but once I put it all together it worked fine.

>>58395261
The same graphics card and processor alone are $900. How much money would I actually be saving

>>58395254
>Generic RAM.
It's RAM, it doesn't matter at all, it's 2017 and not 1997 anymore.
>Cpu cooler for locked cpu ?
Read, i said it's optional.

The build is, in fact, both better and cheaper.

>>58395151
Its made by CWT so I'd say yes.
Good review of the 650w here http://www.hardwareinsights.com/wp/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-650w/

Next time just google it. Retard.

>>58394409
Two of the 115- sockets are compatible, I believe it's 1150 and 1151

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hv2m7h
Any changes?

>>58395254
It's definitely a better build

>>58395394
Or at least cheaper, the same performance and with an ssd

>>58395243
Bin the CD, just download the latest drivers from the webnet and use those. Order doesn't matter.

>>58395352
Source please? This could really help me if I could just get a Z97

>>58395429
Not him but see >>58395352 or just take a look at Intel's documentation. Can't give you much else right now since i'm on mobile.

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>>58395364
Looks good but how long until Z270 is ready to buy? Why even get Z270, are you planning on buying optane when it comes out?
Also that 1070 can power that 1080p/144hz monitor, but it can also power 1440p/144hz on some games or with slightly lowered settings, I got a Asus PG278Q for $500 refurbished ($600 new) might be something to look at

>>58395429
I'm sure at least one person has tried it and posted on google if it fully works

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where can I find an I5 6500 quad for less than ten bucks ?

>>58395470
Sorry bud, lockpicking kits start at $11

>>58395451
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3094338/lga1150-cpu-lga1151-socket.html

This is what I found. They are not compadiable.

>>58395505
Bignastyid wouldn't lie on the internet would he?
And of course it's not forwards-compatible, but I have heard of more cases where 1151 accepted 1150 CPUs and ran fine
Wasn't that the whole point of the DDR3/DDR4 dual compatible motherboards?

>>58395505
That's because you need to flash a custom BIOS, just like on the Skylake Z170 boards to OC locked CPUs, both are still possible even in 2017.
You just put it on an USB stick, boot up, let it do it's job, reboot and you're good.

>>58395085
meh
thanks anyway!

>>58395549
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3094338/lga1150-cpu-lga1151-socket.html

The internet says otherwise.

>>58395505
Please don't listen to them, they want you to get the wrong board.

>>58395658
I already heard of bignastyid's technological gospel, but I've also heard from other people on the Internet otherwise

on a scale of 1-10, be serious, how easy/hard is building a computer

>>58395726
A lot easier than buying it

>>58395671
Please share then, instead of just saying "i heard x"

>>58395769
Isn't that what you're doing?

>>58395726
Can you read and follow directions? Or even a youtube video? Then like a 3.

>>58395769
I'm just saying don't end your research at bignastyid's comment on a forum

>>58395726
its a 4, its basically Legos+

>>58395726
It's harder to plug the power button in than build the rest of the computer

>>58395726
Its like lego/meccano.

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>>58395916
It's like a big erector

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>>58392183
Will this cool my 6700k @ 4.7Ghz well enough?

Not sure if I need to get the 280

going to put it in either manta or s340

>>58395812
Intel's website says the same, as does Gigabyte's. What else is there to research?

>>58395802
At least I'm posting links and quoting people.

>>58395995
And I'm not trying to argue, I'm saying that a random comment on a forum saying it works holds just as much weight as a random comment on a forum saying it doesn't
But clearly Intel says it doesn't work, all I knew was that there are two 115- sockets that are physically compatible with each other

>>58395956
>120mm AIO
>ever

>>58396065
140 actually

the new NZXT have better fans too but they dont have that shit and I have to use store credit so AIO is my only choice other than a 212 EVO

>>58395726
easier than legos those fucks are tiny shits that hurt my hands this shit is literally screw in the motherboard then throw a GPU at it

>>58396070
Single radiator AIOs are generally shit, they are loud, get beaten by air coolers and are expensive.

>>58396158
280 it is then

I have the 280 kraken but was going to return it and get something smaller to justify the $120 price for a Manta

Im finally building a computer with parts i bought from Black Friday til now and after watching hours of youtube reviews i never realized how tiny all the parts are.

the CPU is 1.5 the width of my thumb. ram about as long as the palm of my hand... i now think every Pc Reviewer on youtube is 3 feet tall with Hobbit hands, because the parts looked so much larger in their hands.

even the PSU which looked like a hulking mass in picture is only the size of 2 sandwiches stacked.

>>58396195
PSUs are chunky, "two sandwiches" is a really bad comparison, but yeah, ram sticks and CPUs are kinda small, it's not that big of a deal

>wonder why i hit 60c in games
>notice cooler is a bit lopsided
>spend a fuckload of time seeing wtf is wrong

Im a tard and one of the mounting points was loose.

>>58395726
A little bit harder than Legos due to the fact that you can be turbo-autistic about cable management like me.

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This is now a LinusTechTips appreciation thread

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Does this look good? I'm looking for a cheap computer to watch anime with and future proof myself just in case Daiz does something to fuck with old computers like what happened with 10bit.

I don't really care about gaming really other than low requirement shit my laptop can already max.

>>58392183
so vega runs d44m at 4k 70fps? How does that compare to a 1080? I'm hoping it can perform 1440p 120fps, if not i might wait a few more years

>>58392183

>fatal1ty
>still a thing

i wish i owned a hardware company and make lines that are not stupid.

>pink PCB
>traces make a picture of random waifus
>$2000 price tag
>retire in 2 onths

So I'm putting together a 1080p gaymen build and ended up with this. What do you guys think?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PLZwCy

Also I'm trying to shave off a bit of the cost. I already understand that I should knock off the CPU cooler. What else would you guys recommend?

>>58396789
It was 4k 70 with literally everything as high as it goes, even 8x TSAA. This should beat a 1080. Which can get 60 in some games, 45-50 in others.

>>58396195
for the really tiny shit use a pair of tweezers and be very fucking gentle around the wires

>>58396755
quit using that shitty cooler master, get noctua, cryorig, or bequiet!
hyper 212 is one of the most annoying coolers to install

>>58396872
neato, but doom runs better on amd to begin with doesnt it? But yea ill probably get a 1440p 120hz free sync monitor once non reference versions come out, im pretty hype, might rebuild my whole pc and use old one for game servers

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yJKpVY

Here is my new build, what do you guys think?
>Budget
$800-$1000
>Purpose
gaymen

>>58396916
Only Vulkan, OpenGL runs well enough, but Vulkan is basically a direct PED injection for AMD cards.

>>58396916
My 1070 runs doom on ultra 1440p 120fps

>>58396951
Vulkan has two games.
TWO.
It's not game-optimized for anybody, which is why both games (doom and Dota) are constantly shilled by AMD

>>58397090
Well considering it debuted just last year i wouldnt call it DOA. Besides its not like well be on DX11 until the end of time. We both know it wont take long before MS starts to """"push"""" DX12

>>58397072
cool, hopefully ill be able to push 144hz then.

>>58397193
DX12 is objectively superior to DX11, DX11 looks like a shitshow compared to these new lower level APIs, Microsoft doesn't have to push it
>>58397227
Doom runs amazingly on everything, that's not a difficult task to accomplish with doom (on "high" my 1070 does it fairly consistently) but settings don't make as much of a difference in doom as in other games

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Poorfag Britbong here, paycheque came in so I'm about to pull the trigger on this build. Posting it again to see if anyone has any more suggestions. I've got a 240gb SSD I'm going to be using for the build too.

I have a budget of £600ish. Hopefully for 1080p 60fps gaming if I can.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t2BbVY

Okay- a few questions.
It's time to upgrade, but I don't want to throw a huge amount of money at my pc.
1- my keyboard died and I'm looking for a good sub $50 keyboard. Suggestions?
2- I'm running a 4GB msi GTX 760, would I be better off running sli to upgrade, or straight buy a new card?

Sooooooo, anons, what i wanted out of this build was....
Kind of quiet
Smallish case
Storage set in raid0
With wifi cabailities
I want a sound card

This is meant for nice vidya

Meant to run on a 1440p display

And tons of fps
At around 1500$

Any reccomendations,

Https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7mbKNN

>>58395956
212evo holds my 4.9ghz 7600k at 75c with 40c ambient temps.

>tfw australia and no a/c

>>58394423

maybe i'll switch CPUs if the 7600 isn't that great.

>>58396755
Oh fuck, I'm actually thinking of selling my Z170-A PRO. Would you or anyone else be interested?

What's a decent, cheap and quiet CP cooler?

I was looking at cryorig h5 ultimate. Runs around 57USD here in nippon.

I doubt I'll be OCing to more than 4.5Ghz in the immediate future.

>>58397503
That cooler is shit and I assume loud, spend the 10 extra dollars and get a hyper 212 evo or cryorig H7 or whatever
Why do you want a sound card? You don't need one and if you do need one, an external DAC would be better
You do NOT need $80 of noctua fans.
That's a rebranded Intel wifi card, the original one is like $5 cheaper
That SSD is SATA only, you want a NVME drive for fast M2, and specifically a 950 or 960 pro is a step above most other NVME drives in speed. I have an Intel 600p NVME drive, it blows away SATA SSD in seq reads but is near equal in all other tests. The 950 pro is like 3-5x faster in all tests
Why get HDDs in raid as a requirement? You could just get cheap drives or a big SATA SSD for speed and capacity, they're getting cheaper per TB nowadays
It will run 1440p at tons of fps, my 6600k/1070 build does

>>58397373
An i3 6100 will do but the i5 is fine too. Depends if you really need to make it cheaper. Other wise its a good build for 1080

Is it finally time to upgrade from muh 2500k @ 4.5 or stick to the waiting meme?

>>58397503
>>58397594
And you don't need to pay for Windows home, and if you want pro getting an oem activation code is cheaper
If you don't use cd/DVDs a lot you can skip the optical drive and just buy one when you need one
You can also get faster ram of you want, 3000mhz is usually at good prices

>>58397594

Coo coo,

i do not want a cpu cooler to be a block on sticking out, ie. Small form factor.

I have a lot of important files, i just NEED the reliablility of hdd in raid0.

Plus i want most of the pcie and m.2 slots to be filled

I do not inted on removing drives, so i dont care about a 2.5inch ssd

What would you reccomend for quiet fans, thats what im going for..

>>58397627

Rodger

I forgot to add that im going to install a card reader.

>>58397705
You have a full ATX case, small form is out of the question and the cooler is inside the fucking case
Raid 0 is actually less safe than no raid at all, you want raid 1 for the constant backup
That doesn't explain why you got a SATA m2 instead of an NVME m2
What the duck does removing drives have to do with 2.5", get a regular ssd

euro is weak, cant wait for AMD to get their shit together, kaby has temp issues, cant get this below 1k edition

purpose: gaming triple A titles at 60fps, competitive games (dota2, cs go etc) at 144fps+. upgrading to from 1080p to 1440p 144Hz when more affordable
streaming to twitch
rendering youtube videos
>futureproof

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/NsH2zM

>asus cashback makes the asus stuff more attractive €40 on the motherboard €30 on the GPU
>not upgrading storage
>dont want to cheap out too much on case (dissatisfied in the past) s340 elite not available yet in Schland :(
>not sure how cheap i should be with PSU

>>58397790

The case wasnt final either....

Basically the only thing i have for sure is that ,

The grapchics card
The micro atx motherboard
The cpu
Hhd in raid

The wifi card and sound card could change but are still a requirment
The rest of the components can be ex/changed, but i want slots to be filled.

>>58397627
>don't need to pay for Windows home
How to cop for free?

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Afternoon there, I have some trouble choosing a MB for kabylake. So basically I have a pci soundcard which I will keep at any cost, so it comes only to 4 choices:
*MSI Z170A GAMING M3
*ASUS Z170-A
*ASUS PRIME Z270-K
*ASRock Z270 Pro4
They all look nice and smooth, but which one should I pick and what should be important?

>>58397959
My vote goes to asrock. I have an old one the UEFI is really nice to work with if you're planning to OC.

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First time building a gaming pc, please give me feedback
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJ7QKZ

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hello fellow gamers what do you think of my rig?

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>>58398662
check out my heatsink

>>58396934
bump

>>58398567
for a build this high tier, you are cheaping out on the psu, go with a 600w 80+gold full modular psu.

if you are going to watercool this high tier, go all the way with it and get a watercooled 1080

I don't know how good nzxt's watercooling support is, but fractal design's cases have great support, consider them.

overall, the build will tackle just about anything you throw at it with ease.

>>58398567
Spending that much money whilst cheaping out on the PSU is beyond retarded.

>>58396934
>>58398712
rx 480 8gb is a better card while being cheaper, beware the H7 is a big offset cooler, so your hands are left with little room to work in the upper left. otherwise you look fine.

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>>58398850
not the anon you are responding to but
>rx 480
>amd

Does anyone here buy used parts off Craigslist or whatever?

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3s3CM8

plsr8

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>>58398890
ah, but it's true, the tales of the return are coming to light, more or less. point being somehow amd pulled the extra frames and with the extra ram, it becomes really compelling over the 1060.

>>58398991
looks good, but look into that psu, it's best to play it safe and go with psu's that are made by very reputable brands and products that are praised by great reviews in the hundreds. I recommend going with a "EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply", it will get the job done.

>>58398991
>mid tower memery
>kaby lake i5 memery

let me help you friend

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bz9cyf

>>58399177

There's literally nothing wrong with XFX.

>>58399216

You're an idiot.

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>>58392183
Couldn't they have at least tried showing off better looking AM4 boards? The ones in ces looks like $80 budget boards.


Or do the manufacturers know something we don't?

>>58399240
>preferring inferior performance for the same price

contanza-mocking-you.tiff

>>58399254

>using outdated parts
>superior anything

>>58398748
Thx

>>58399046
Except its not. The 1080 literally outpreforms the 480 in every possible category.

>>58397525
loud as fuck

>>58395152
>Find a friend or classmate that knows how to build pc
>Spend $1200 on pc
>Spend $100 on beer and pizza
>???
>Profit!

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Bought this back in 2009 and has been running flawlessly since. Can run most games at >40fps on high and any valve game on maximum

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>>58399287
>but it starts with a 7 instead of a 6
>hurr durr it's obviously better

no.

buy a 7600k and watch it get minced by a 2016 title like BF1 on the first day you switch it on.

buy a 6700k and look back in 3 years and think "what a fucking glorious purchase"

If you're exclusively into single thread benchmarking (pro tip: not a single soul alive is) then get the 7600k.

I'm looking to get a sata ssd, ~250GB, what should I go for?

So just looking for parts to practice putting together and maybe use as a side pc for just surfing the web and shit posting on 4 chan

Anyway, i put this together by just picking cheapest or near cheapest parts
[PCPartPicker part list](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mjgByf) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mjgByf/by_merchant/)

My only question is, should i spend a bit more and practice putting together a liquid cpu cooler? The cpu in the build i posted didn't give me any options for it

>>58399369
850 evo like everyone else

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>>58399299
what the fuck are you going on about? you are comparing the performance of a 200-240 dollar card to a 600-780 dollar card.

>>58399397
I apologize, I meant the 1060.

>>58399369
850 evo, may not be the faster but anything faster is negligible and waste of money. Lifespan is really good too.

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afraid the 460x single red fan that comes with the build will be one you can't turn the LED off, which would ruin the entire aesthetic of this temper meme build

Any improvements? Should I just go with NZXT shit for tempered?

>>58399216

might as well get a 7700k as it's only thirty more bucks

why the fuck would you spend 2k on shit that will be outdated by the end of the year

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>>58397560
pls respond

>>58399420
alright then, allow me to argue from there, the amd relive drivers somehow pulled enough power out of the card to result in the rx 480 to edge out the 1060 in most games and pull even further ahead in dx12 and vulcan (not that those really matter this generation). there are videos on it, check that shit out.

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Hey /g/ I'm building a PC and wanted to know what improvements I can make to my parts list.
I'll be playing games like Battlefield 1, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. CoC, Rust, ARMA 3, CS:GO , Star Citizen, Civilization 6, DOOM 4, GTA Online, METRO, and Witcher 3.

I'll be using software such as Sony Vegas, Photoshop, and Microsoft Office.

A few questions I'd like answered:
1. Should I get a CPU cooler?
2. How many harddrives is enough?
3. How many case fans is enough?
4. How shit is my taste in vidya?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNbjqk1

Should i get an i3 6100 for a poorfag build or wait for kaby lake CPUs?

Assuming that i won't upgrade from 1080p and using a H110 mobo.

>>58397560
>building a PC in nippon
good luck from burgerland senpai. i personally like the h5 so that seems good for your ghz.

>>58399471
Or spend 30 seconds in your bios and change the clock on your 6700k to 4.2GHz

Congrats, you've now got a 7700k.

>>58399533
I'm just buying the parts here and harvesting the rest from my desktop at home. It's actually a bit cheaper to get them here because
>australia prices

Recently Learned Protip:

If you buy a Noctua NH-D15, it might be a good idea to setup the mount first, but wait until everything else is done before placing the Heat Sink on it. Its super easy to install but a pain in the ass to work around.

>>58399511
>Should I get a CPU cooler?
If your CPU doesn't come with one then yes, you should. A CPU with no cooler will overheat in minutes.

>How shit is my taste in vidya?
>Star Citizen
I suspect you've had a lobotomy. Shouldn't you be spending your money on $1500 hypothetical ships?

>>58399326
How much did you spend on it back then?

Built my system almost 2 years ago, have yet to add anything to it. lol

>>58399511
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNbjqk1
doesn't seem to work

>>58399326
>gaymes
>>>/v/

>>58399593
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNbjqk

try this

Is it worth it buying a cheap Kingston 120GB vs using only my 7200RPM HDD I already have? Are the speeds that different? The SSD I had in mind is the Kingston UV400 120GB

>>58399532
you can buy kaby lake now

had an i5 7600k show up today from amazon, not sure about the other chips.

>>58399618
BF1 will annihilate an i5-6500

source: had said processor and watched it bottleneck a GTX970

It'll be fine for CSGO. Can't comment on the other titles

>>58399511
1.yes, even if you are running stock clocks, get a low profile one to get your pc to shut the fuck up.
2.one or two
3.you hit peak at 2, one in back and one front, from there you get diminishing returns but dont let that stop you, put more fans in, run them at ever lower rpm.
4. I can't say I have any better

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first BUILD boys

how did


I DO?

>>58399620
>are the speeds different.
43 seconds in friendo.

https://youtu.be/3bs3ZGvCOd0?t=43

>>58399643
>win10

>>58399647
Yeah but that's a Samsung SSD. I'm talking about the cheapest most budget SSD I could find

>>58399643
a solid effort

why is your SSD angled?

>>58397959
Asus prime. Assrock has solder issues. Fuck assrock.

>>58399675
ran out of screws

>>58399669
a cheap ass SSD will still wreck a mechanical drive

>>58399498
Please cite your sources, everything I have heard or read has said that the 1060 6GB pulls ahead of the RX 480 (unless you are talking about the 1060 3GB, in which case I agree with you.

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What were they thinking?

>>58399626
I can't in my shithole.

But I'm asking because i don't know if there's an increase in performance between skylake and kaby i3s that would be worth it.

I won't use any of the new things like 4k hw decoding and unlocked i3s as i mentioned.

>>58399669
That's not the point I'm trying to make.

>>58399685 gets it.

>>58399363
Arent they the same cpu. Just the 7600 has a better igpu?

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>>58399703
>tfw it's $180 here

>>58399718
where is your shithole?

>>58399729
well no. a 7600 is an i5.

but if you compare a 6700k to a 7700k you'll see they're essentially identical in every respect. basically intel took a 6700k, clocked it 200MHz higher and then printed some new boxes with a 7 instead of a 6.

it took them 18 months to complete this innovation. it's the sort of thing apple fanboys would be proud of.

>>58399695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo
actually, I take back my previous statements, here, hardwarecanucks does seem to cherry pick a little with dx12 and amd favored games, but what still stands is that the rx 480 has nearly, if not completely closed the gap between the cards, edging out the 1060, and getting edged out by the 1060 depending on the game. also the 480 is pulling further ahead in dx12 (again, not that it matters too much).

Can I be sure a dark Rock pro 3 or Cyrorig will keep quiet enough when I run it at my 4.7ghz 6700k in games?

The Kraken X61 I expect will be loud.

>>58399577
about 2.1 grand

>>58399246
>Or do the manufacturers know something we don't?
They're not too thrilled with AMD after all those failed launches with Piledriver, Bulldozer, Steamroller, etc.
Also, Ryzen a shit. Low quality boards are one sign of no confidence in the upcoming CPUs.

>>58399577
also the second radeon wasn't in it at the time

>>58399806
I will admit that the difference between the two cards is slight. The 480 wins in some games, while the 1060 wins in others. In the end it just comes down to preference.

>>58399326
isnt it overclockable?

>>58399927
i don't know how

>>58399922
beside performance, whoever is buying will just have to weigh the pros and cons, rx480 lower cost, gtx 1060 greater efficiency, that sort.

>>58399985
Heres a guide that should still work even though its still old. http://www.overclock.net/t/538439/guide-to-overclocking-the-core-i7-920-or-930-to-4-0ghz Overclocking is a great way to get more performance on older CPUs. If you dont wanna risk destroying the CPU I wouldn't do it though since you said you don't know how

>>58400004
I have overclocked my GPU with afterburner before. From what I understand you need to increase voltage with clock speed until it is stable making sure not to go over x degrees?

Can I get some advice for this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XZpqNN

My budget is 15-1700 USD. Could I get a look at the case, card, and motherboard I chose? Feel free to critique the entire build, but I have greatest uncertainty with those 3 parts. For example I could save 80 dollars by going with the Zotac AMP! card seen here: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KC648d/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-8gb-amp-edition-video-card-zt-p10800c-10p

I'm aiming for 1080p 144hz or 1440 60 hz gaming.

>>58400023
Yep I'm pretty sure that's it (I haven't overclocked anything desu)

>>58400028
>EVGA Firepro Edition GPU

Lol.

Go with the Zotac AMP.

And make sure you have a monitor with Gsync.

>>58400105

Why the AMP over the EVGA? I am heavily leaning towards the AMP because of the 80$ price difference but I'd like to know what it's sacrificing to make itself 80 bucks cheaper. Is it much louder? I was hoping for a quieter card this time around as my current is very loud.

>>58400131
Im not sure if they fixed this, but some of the EVGA cards had defective Transistors that would spontaneously explode. EVGA got unlocking with the batch they were using in the past few months.

not sure if they corrected it yet.

>>58400273

I see. Can I get any advice on the mobo and case I chose? Is there something better available for similar prices or cheaper? I'm trying to minmax my build as best I can.

>>58392183
looking for the cheapest 1080p ips 27inch monitor. need help.

pls halp!!!!

>>58400381
>Step One
>Go to pcpartpicker.com
>Step Two
>Select Monitors
>Step Three
>Left of page, sort monitors by specifications you just listed
>Step Four
>Sort by Price
>Congrats, now all that's left is a little research and you're done!

Someone fucking help me because I have no way of being able to tell what's what

I want to have my 6700k and 1070 @ 2100 Mhz running reasonably quiet while the 6700k is @ 4.7 or so Ghz

I have an NZXT x61 and could use that in whatever case but there is a good chance those stock fans will be fucking loud

Im building cheapo computer for dad that im hoping will last him a bit, he plays older games and the usual browsing etc.
Do I need to invest into good motherboard or can I just pick cheapest from usual brands?

>>58400613
Eh, stay away from Asrock if your budget can help it.
Gigabyte, MSI, Asus are a good group of brands to pick from.

is fractal r5 overkill for budget build?
seems 100R Silent is pretty much same but in budget package

>>58400674
depends on what you mean by "budget"

Got my Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0, serves me fine right now.

What would be a good build for gaming with about a 600€ budget?
Would also be nice if the shipping to my third-world shithole would be cheap

>>58400722
500-600

>>58400787
Go with the Core 1000 in that case.

It's a bit tough to build in, but as long as your videocard is under..200cm or so, you'll have to check, you should be fine.

>save for 6 months to buy gaymen pc
>finally build it
>no game interests me anymore
kill me

>>58400969
welcome. that's what usually happens when you get yhour gayman pc.

I am moving to China soon and my old build is both way too big (Define R4) and really old and outdated (6870 that fucks up a lot). I have heard PC parts in China are really overpriced, so I want to make a micro-itx build small enough to take onboard as a carry-on, because I don't want to risk having the parts get damaged or lost with my luggage as a checked in bag. Questions:
>Are the TSA retarded enough that they would think it's a bomb and deny it as a carry-on?
>Any case recommendations?

Anyone ever done something similar?

can someone help me choose a 250gb ssd?

leaning towards the samsung 850, either pro or evo

>>58401112
those are pretty good ssds anon you wouldnt regret getting one of those

>>58401153
is the pro worth it though?
it's 35 bucks more

>>58401158
i would just go with the evo

Any tips on my build ive bought a few parts including the motherboard i kind of regret it but i got it for pretty cheap
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sJCdJV
Also should i go for the 500gb ssd or the 250 m.2
Any advice would be appreciated

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>>58392183
DO I NEED AN EK LOOP TO MAKE MY CASE NOT SIMULATE JET ENGINE NOISE

FUCKING STUPID SHIT H100I V2 CREATES ALL THE SOUND IT MAY WHEN YOU OC A 6700K TO 4.6

YES THE FAN CURVE IS ON """""""""""""SILENT"""""""""

How much watt should my psu be if i use gtx1080/vega

>>58401158
No. It's pretty much identical in performance, the main benefit is the extended warranty and write cap IIRC

>>58401208
500-550W one is enough. Look at the power draw estimation on this >>58401196 build, it's fully tricked out and still only 440W at max load.

>>58401196
I'd go for the SATA SSD, m.2 is only worth it if you're doing large file operations. Look at the graphs on this review:
http://techreport.com/review/30993/samsung-960-evo-ssd-reviewed/5

>>58401201
>he doesn't like a loud machine

>>58401267
Thank you gonna change some things around

So I have a couple questions about my upcoming build for this summer. Part list so far, going for a black and white theme:

>Thermaltake Core P5 case
>Gigabyte Aorus GA-AX370-Gaming 5 mobo
>High end Ryzen CPU
>High end Vega 10 GPU in white/black/both
>16GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 ram
>Western Digital Black 5TB HDD
>120GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD from my current rig
>Corsair RMx PSU


So, now my questions:

Would it be worth getting the 4x4 instead of the 2x8 Dominators?

If I want to slap a second GPU in there at some point, will an 850W RMx be enough or should I spring for the 1000W? I Plan on overclocking as much as possible which leads me to-

I want to do liquid cooling in this build. I have not done liquid cooling before. What is the best kit (keeping the white and black theme in mind) I should get for this build? I want hard tubing, a triple radiator, reservoir and pump, the whole shebang. The coolant is going to be white. Also, how much of a pain in the ass would it be to add in a second GPU down the line if going with liquid cooling? Is draining the coolant to add more tubing, and a crossfire bridge, to the loop a bitch or is it relatively simple?

Last small thing. where would I find custom cables for the modular PSU I'm picking up? I want to get cables that are black and white patterned.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Kd89RG

I have no functional computer right now. Laptop died. It's all backed up happily.

> Going to hold off on GPU for 2 months (budgeting)
> I have SSD & HDDs, mouse & keyboard
> Want something to put on the desk out the way of a 2 year olds sneaky fingers
> Cause it'll be at face height I want something quiet

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>>58401196
what the hell do you need a 1200w psu for? you are not running an FX-9590 with 300 series 4 way crossfire with the addition of 10 hdd's, like hell man. also why full tower? I know those things are comfy but do you know how big those cases are compared to even a mid tower?

go for the 500gb ssd

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>get a 7600k they said

>>58401352
>prime95
>not aida64
enjoy killing your cpu

>>58401352
Which cooler?

>>58401433
>not being prime95 stable
enjoy your unstable overclock

>>58401449
>prime95
>real world
pick one

>>58401433
[citation needed]

>>58401459
>stable OC
>crashing
pick one

>>58401433
>aida64
Nice try shill, how many copy's have you sold today?

>>58397944
Google "download Windows 10 installation media"
Download it
Install Windows
Don't activate it

>>58401475
>Stable oc
>On a virtually impossible situation that your CPU will never be in while reducing its lifespan
Lmao, some will even run prime95 for days lol

>>58400969
Emulators senpai
Make a $2000 PS1

>>58401475
My 6600k ran prime95 for half an hour but still blue screens every now and then

>>58401514
>Lmao, some will even run prime95 for days lol
Thats right, as a shitty CPU will die and its better to find out while under warranty.

CPU's and graphics cards come with ridiculous amounts of safeties nowadays that will prevent any damage from normal operation. You'd pretty much have to intentionally try to harm your CPU to damage it.

>>58401538
thats because you used prime95 and damaged it

>>58401350
lmao i know the psu is super overkill but i got it from a friends job for $100 and i got the full tower only beacause i liked that one specifically and definitely will go for that ssd
u think everything else is fine or should i make any other changes its my first pc build not tryin too mess it up

>>58399643
I can't tell but that Hyper 212 Evo Fan better be in pull or I'm going to flip a bitch.

I'm not the best example of wire management but there are a few improvement areas.

If the psu has a dust cover on the bottom I prefer having the fan facing down for reasons but it's preference there.

Why is the ssd diagonal?

No complaints with the parts.

Dark Cock Pro or Noctus?

I don't like poo color

>All this shitposting over my PRIME95 screenshot


>>58401446
212EVO, seen another anon claim his 7600k ran around 75C @ 4.8ghz with one. He must have a golden sample as mine runs hot as fuck at stock.
Thinking about putting a Noctua NH-D15 on it.

>>58401615
My 6600k runs 4.5ghz at about 65° with a hyper 212

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So I'm about finishing my build and upon turning on for the first time the system doesn't boot up every time, and when it does it says to connect a power supply cord to the graphics card in the PCI-E slot.

I'm reusing the powersupply that was in my case from my last build (like 6 years ago). I think it has enough output to handle what I put in it still, but my new GPU the GTX 1070 has a 8 pin power slot and the largest my PSU has is 6 pin, only one 8 pin and that is plugged in for the motherboard. Can I just buy an adapter for the 6 pin? Will a cheap one fuck my shit up?

Pic related my issue, my GPU power slot with the largest available cord. It fits but leaves two open obviously.

parts for reference:

>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147117
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875

>>58401621
>6 yo el cheapo psu without 8pin connector
>GTX 1070

If you had 3 12v (yellow) wires I'd say you'd be fine, but it doesnt look like it.

it probably wont fry your system but the GPU may not even power.

>>58401601
deepcool gammaxxx, same performance.
or cryorig h7

>>58401621
Just buy a new PSU, You can get molex adapters but that is a bit dodgy.

>>58401590
well lets see
1.I don't know why you bother with rgb fans if the paint is not color neutral.
2.at this high tier, you can afford to go all the way with watercooling, so get a watercooled or hybrid 1080 to minimize heat contamination and reduce temps.

other than that you are gold.

>>58401621
6 to 8 adapter should work but it's not recommended, you PSU is not designed to power that graphics card.

What are some recommended SSDs that aren't Samsung?
Or is Samsung the best one?

>>58401621
You clowns never fail to amaze me
>buy premium GPU
>continue to use shitty, old, possibly worn out PSU that came with a shitty case

>>58401780
Samsung is the best one, yes. 960 or 850 evo. You can get a Kingston or Crucial one if you'd want something cheaper.

>>58401780
PNY is a sdd manufacturer that makes some good, low cost ssd's

>>58401780
sk hynix, mushkin, sandisk, pny...the list goes on

Not directly pc related but my mouse's left click is dying. Good cheap replacement mouse, will any logitech do?

>>58401780
OCZ (or as I like to call it, OCZ+Toshiba) is good and cheap
>>58401795
Kingston switched out a popular model of SSDs for a lower performance one at some point, so they're shifty for doing that

>>58401818
The G402 is on sale and it's decent enough.

>>58401717
Pic related it does have 12v output and that is a 12v cord theres just shit everywhere

Is it dangerous to try an adapter or will it simply not power my things?
>>58401733
>>58401763

What would you recommend as a minimum? Output and money wise, I dont really have much of an idea on what to look for in a PSU I thought I'd be ok.

>>58401895
>>58401717
PCIe is 5V

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>>58401895

Forgot pic

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Bump, still can't decide.
>>58401831

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>>58401949
Missed
>>58397959

>>58401963
you will need to use a skylake cpu in the 170 chipset boards to update bios to make them compatible with kabylake

>>58402001
Yes, I'm aware of that, thanks. Only need to decide which one to purchase.

help pls

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/200_328/networking/network-adapters

>>58402031
I'd go with the Asus 270, because I hate assrock.

How can I make a bootable USB for windows 10 in Linux?

>>58402058
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/18067/asus-pce-n15-wireless-n-pcie-adaptor

>>58401895
A thermaltake toughpower 550w will do the job fine

>>58402093
cheers
do i just manually install it or do i need some software drivers first?

>>58402146
Just stick it in and if running windows it should sort itself out.

>>58402092
WinUSB

>>58402168
I tried installing it on Debian using a repository but it didn't install it.

>>58402158
thanks again

lastly, how is this for an external cd drive? https://www.pccasegear.com/products/19209/silverstone-ts06-external-usb-slim-optical-drive-enclosure-black

new thread

>>58402312
>>58402312
>>58402312

>tfw want a new pc because want to upgrade to 4k and 4670k + r9 290 couldn't handle it
>tfw don't want to go with intel and nvidishill
>tfw have to wait for ryzen and vega

I got a 120GB Kingdian because I was going for a relatively budget build but with Christmas sales and a bonus from work, I ended up buying an 850.
What the fuck do I do with the Kingdian?

I'm a good damn retard.
I was so happy with my new PC until i found out it had Cool Whine.
How do i prevent that from happening ever again?
I did research on the parts of course before i bought them.