Pcbg

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first for linustechtips

first for $250 Canadian 470s ;-;

>>58377234
>tfw ATI was a Canadian company

Any suggestions?
For 1080p
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gWVnNN

>>58377270
650W PSU is overkill. it even says 276W powerdraw at the top and youre obviously not overclocking or adding a 2nd GPU. 400-450W will be just fine

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>touted as a "living room" oriented case
>fuckhueg for no good reason, it's three times taller than it needs to be
>tempurd glass so can see your TV reflecting off the case
I love CES.

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w2c cheap ips 27inch 1080p monitor?

don't mind getting refurbished or pre-used. or where do you cop cheap monitors?

what If I use virtual gpu scaling to set the resolution at 1440p?
>1440p for cheap!!!!

Why wouldn't this work?

>>58377270
Way to expensive if you want an i3 build, get link below or get a 6500 build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j4D8xY

I'm planning on a mITX build, current case of choice would be cooler master elite 110, but I'm bothered by the lack of proper dust filters
anyone have the same case and have experience with the dust build-up?

>>58377270

Psu overpriced, 80 dollar meme case, b150 when you wont use the added features, overpriced ram for aethestics. And that 1060 is a great model but definitely overpriced. Get a simple 1060 model they dont run hot anyway and any factory overclock is negligible.

Make compromises and get an i5 6500 using the money you wont regret it. I have that monitor and its very nice for 1080p

>>58377270
You are already pushing $1k. Might as well get i5-6500 and make the system well rounded.

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So Finnfag here looking to move my big and noisy -ass poverty tier FX-6300 build to home server use and get an elegant Intel gaming desktop in the Silverstone SG13 case. I already have a MSI r9 390 which I will not replace yet. If the GPU fits and I'm pleased with the case when it arrives, I'll probably pull the trigger. I know memory is expensive now but I'm worried about other parts not being available too far in the future so I think I'm ready to bite the ~30€ bullet. The memory might even raise in price after Ryzen launches. Case fan I will nig from my old rig which has plenty, it's a Fractal so it's fine. So what do you think, /pcbg/? Anything else I should take into consideration?

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>Ordered all the parts for my PC
>Everything comes within the week I ordered it from Amazon and B&H
>Newegg is taking fucking ages to send two of the same items
>Supposed to come ten days after I ordered it

>trying to fix 7770s so I don't have to upgrade until Vega is released
>think I get it working, run Heaven to test
Working so far, pray for allepo

But the interesting thing is that 7770s in crossfire over PCIe (no bridge) seem to have near 100% scaling. 11ish fps at the super high quality settings I set in Heaven, versus 20ish running both cards.

Tearing is hilariously bad though

>>58377606
godspeed my friend

what amd card for media center and light gaming in small case?

>>58377653
RX 460 or a used card. Green team has low profile 1050Tis that look neat but I understand not supporting their business practices.

>>58377653
>>58377662
Oh, by the way, depending on how "light" your light gaming is, consider an APU or even a Kaby Lake chip with integrated graphics. If light gaming is TF2, CS:GO, Paradox games, etc; an i5's integrated graphics are...workable.

>>58377567
get a refund and keep the items, that'll show them!!!

>want to do a few upgrades
>realize my few upgrades ended up being the whole damn computer aside from the SSD's

fug

is 550w psu okay for oc'd 6600k and lightly oc'd rx 480?

had 550w in my original 6500/1060 build but now I'm not sure if I shouldn't go for 650w to be safe

>>58377858
>aside from the SSD's
I hope you have at least a intel 600p, otherwise you are deprecated

What's a good monitor for ~$100?
Currently looking at the Asus VE247H. Worth it or are there better alternatives?

>>58378073
Literally just Google PSU calculator

>>58378073
try here and round up for the OC:
http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

Should I get a 4590 + mobo for 300€ total? I'm currently using an AMD 955.

>>58378129
>>58378137
my issue with these calculators is that the result doesn't actually reflect the psu wattage

like, I got just under 300w out of that calculator, and corsair recommends me a 500w psu for I don't know what reason

>>58378216
Because a lot of PSUs aren't always preforming at their max wattage and you should regularly have lots more headroom for overclocking and upgrades

>>58378083
BENQ GL2250 is a nice budget monitor. I'm in the market for something 400+ dollars now but it served me very faithfully, even in high level FPS play.

Everything except the 2x2GB sticks, LED's, Fan Splitters and the GPU is already here, built the thing already but want to know if it'll werk with all the other shit installed

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y2r76X

>>58378216
Because if manufacturers recommend 500W, retards will go and buy 400W or some shitty paper-only 500W PSU. Now, imagine how many retards with blown PCs they'd have to deal with if they recommended 300W instead.

Also this >>58378238

Do modern motherboards for PC's have a bui,t in WIFI these days?

What is PCI and what difference do the 'normal', 2.0 and 3.0 have?
Looking at two MBs and one has a 'PCI' slot, not 2.0 or anything.

https://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-80mm-Express-PCIe-120GB/dp/B01MCZ4QTK%3Fpsc%3D1%26SubscriptionId%3DAKIAJ76EIXAV3V6D6JEQ%26tag%3Dglobalnetwork-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01MCZ4QTK?th=1

yay or nay???

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>>58378129
>>58378137
>>58378238
>>58378409
alrighty then, r8 please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQKZqk
I think I did it right

>>58378413
You see it more on ITX boards because you don't have room for anything else besides GPU. Most ATX boards do not come with it.

>>58378636
Here's a better build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCZ8xY

>>58377161
How's this desktop for ps2 emulation?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/newtopcs122/saved/w4BrHx

Or for PC gaming in general?

>>58378659
I don't really feel like turning this thread into a 1060 vs 480 shitfest.

>>58378667
Try to shoot for an i3 if you can. If you want to run games at a higher resolution, a 750 ti or 460 will be all you need.

>>58378636
a bit more gets you a 1070
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HnXHnn

>>58378449
It mainly has to do with bandwidth. You can put a PCIE card in any version slot and it will work.

>>58377228
He's come a long way since NCIX Canada, huh?

>>58378718
He sure has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgfXLe7rTSg
>this was five and a half years ago

>>58378667
get cheaper psu, cheaper memory, ssd and better cpu

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>>58378705
even better!!!

>>58378636
See: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xkbjqk

>>58378645
damn it. thanks.

>>58378762
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGd6KZ

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What's your favorite SFF case?

>>58378667
i3 6100 would take you much further
slapping on a dedicated gpu later on would open you to actual pc gaming too

>>58378767
>>58378705
why do you hate m.2

>>58378762
>Gamaxx 400
Great cooler, but push-pins suck ass.

>>58378796
Nothing wrong with it, but most people/applications won't make much use of it an imho the only worthwile M.2 is 950/960 Pro.

>>58378796
cuz I'd rather get a more powerful gpu.
in real world tasks, sata ssds are enough for 90% of users.

will i need to buy any cables separately?
like sata and stuff. or will they come with other parts?

>>58378823
buy some.

>>58378846
what ones?

>>58378774
It's probably for the best. 802.11ac is out and n is old tech now. You don't really want an ever changing technology embedded to the board.

>>58378870
sata, hdmi, displayport.

>>58377406
It works.

>>58378870
Sata maybe some fan splitters/cable extensions if youre working with a fuckhuge case

BIOSTAR mobo DOA lads.

Replacing with Asrock 970

AVOID BIOSTAR

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>>58378897
True. I just hope the usb wifi adapter I have is good enough.

Its one of these pic related, but an older model Im sure. I bought it 2 years ago and used.

>>58378927
>biostar
LOL

>((((((((upgrading))))))))) to ASSrock
even more LOL

>>58378902
>>58378917
the mb i'm looking at comes with 2 sata cables it says.
that should be fine for an ssd and hdd right? and the other components should come with their own cables?

>>58378933
In your opinion, is a USB any worse than a PCI/PCIe WLAN card?

>>58378950
>Asrock and Asus are both owned by Pegatron Corporation

Huh, makes me think....

>>58378977
Can't tell you. Better to ask in a /sqt/ thread or pc building thread.

I only used it for like a few days before my thinkpad arrived and I realized I didn't need it anymore as the built in thinkpad wifi is awesome.

>>58378977
I changed from pci-e ac wifi to usb3.0 ac wifi when I changed to a smaller case and noticed to change in speed or stability.

>>58377552
a tiny little bump

>>58378977
I've never had any issues with usb, and I've been using it for quite a while if that helps.

>>58379029
no change

Is R5 a meme case?

do gpus need specific cpus to work or will they all work with any?

>>58379098
What do you mean by that?

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Intel Core i5 4590 @ 3.30GHz

8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 666MHz

ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (Asus itx)

Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB ATA Device (SSD)

1863GB Seagate ST2000LM003 HN-M201RAD ATA Device (SATA)


Probably gonna throw in another 500gb


Its a small gaming and work computer

I travel a lot so it built it to be carry on or fit inside a handled cabin bag.

will i7 7700k work with H110M motherboard?

>>58378977
USB2 is okay for 802.11n, but you would need USB3 port for 802.11ac. PCIE will alway be higher bandwidth so you can't go wrong there. I guess I should also point out, your router must be ac capable if you want to take advantage of 1Gbps speeds.

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>>58378762
>mfw I got my Gammaxx 400 for $18
>$18 Canadian rupees
>212 Evo costs $40 Canadian rupees
>everything else in that benchmark costs even more

>>58379139
it would but what's the point?

>>58378897
It's not really embedded into the board I don't think. Under the "WIFI EXXXTREME GAYMEN" shield, there's a riser card that does wifi that can be easily swapped.

>>58377161
rate muh completed 1080p waiting for good 4k cards build

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7xNNBP

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>>58379139
>will i7 7700k work with H110M motherboard?
>considering Volcano Lake
>on a H110
>ever

>>58379127
Any

>>58379165
>>58378762
Just checked, the Dark Rick Harrison Pro 3 costs $109.99 Canadian monopoly dollars on Newegg right now

>>58379165
>the bequiet costs 80usd
>is not even that quiet
really makes you think

>>58379188
why did you buy the most expensive ssd and a pricey case

>>58377406
an iMac
[spoiler]It's also in 1440p[/spoiler]

So, I finally got my newly built pc to actually boot, and I cloned the OS from my HHD to my SSD with crucial's migration software. How do I get it to actually run the OS from it without formatting everything and installing it from a USB drive?

>>58379217
ssd cause it was on sale fro, like $130 and case because it looks nice and I don't want to look at some black garbage box on my desk for the next couple of years

>>58379176
Unless they used something like micro PCIE, you would have to rely on that motherboard manufacturer for updated extreme gaymen shields everytime some new 802.11 standard came out.

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>>58379252
Doesn't look like a hard swap though.

>>58379246
>caring about the aesthetic of a computer
why is the market for this booming?

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>>58379286

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>>58379299
Ever since personal electronics stopped being made out of mainly plastic.

Still waiting for some brave fellow to bring Abee cases to the US market.

>>58379299
>caring about the aesthetics of absolutely anything

Shoggodoggodoo

What's the most you could do with a 2GB GPU? Where would it start bottlenecking?
Not sure if I should go with 2GB to save money or 4GB just in case. I don't do much PC gaming.

>>58378080
850EVO 500GB + ultra II 960GB
If I move to the NFC S4 Mini my plans are
>6700T
>L9I
>Strix Z270I
>Gskill Trident RGB
>Zotac 1080 mini
>HDPLEX 300W
>2x 600P

right now I've got
>3570K
>Cryorig M9I
>P8Z77I Deluxe
>ref. 980
>SX500LG
and those two ssds

Updated 1080p build from earlier
What is a better case for the price and is 550 watts still overkill?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QgHNBP

>>58379540
550W is ok but you'd be fine with a EVGA 500B, too. If this is meant to be a silent build i suggest you get a custom CPU cooler because the stock one is loud as shit.
If you don't care about noise i suggest you save yourself a few bucks and get a cheaper case like the Deepcool Tesseract for $35-39.

i5 2500k OC'ed to 4.2
16GB RAM
970

Will I notice any difference with a 480 at 1440p?

How different are the chipsets in GPUs?
What would be better out of a 4GB 1.18GHz RX460 and any old RX470? What are the differences?

>>58379662
Probably not. Maybe in dx12.

>MSI Z87-G45
>Intel 4690K
>Corsair H80i V2 CPU cooler
>EVGA 1070
>16GB RAM
>Corsair 600W
About to get some SSD's tomorrow, What company sells the best SSD's lads?

>>58379703
480 > 470 > 460

>>58379711
Samsung

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nice video game consoles

>>58379487
Is 3570K really obsolete? I wanted to buy it used as I'm a poorfag and only want to do 1080p gaming.

>>58379799
3570K should be fine, especially when overclocked
however, you're still buying a legacy platform

Hey fellas, I was looking to make a frankenbuild transition to an ITX build with parts I've already got. I don't mind gaymer internals and price isn't a huge issue; what's a decent (reliable) ITX board at/under $160?

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>>58379799
it's not no
The purpose of me upgrading to the 6700T is the 35W TDP with roughly the same performance as my 77W TDP 3570K
Looking to go even deeper into the SFF world and lower TDP=lower noise

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>>58379831
what socket do you need?

Franken ITX is fun, here's mine while I waited for the case to come in

>>58379831
Anything from the big three really (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI). I'm going with the Asus Z170I Pro Gaming because it has vertical SATA connections and good wifi.

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Is there anything interesting coming out later this year besides Zen? Even casewise?

I really want to upgrade this year but everything seems shit at the moment.

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About to do my first build.

Assuming I do everything perfectly, what is the likelihood of it failing due to a faulty component? Is it more likely than one would think?

>>58379982
No, it's less likely than you probably think.

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Britfag here, got a budget of £600 and wondering if there's any improvements to be made before buying all the parts. I've got a 240gb SSD in my laptop that I'll probably use too. Any suggestions?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/gKqkbj

>>58379851
I've been kek'd in the past by getting a "new" socket months before new sockets get released, but right now I'm running a 4690k (not overclocked). I'm kind of ok with a frankenbuild just being my video card and disk drives, worst case.

>>58379854
Figured it would be best to stick in that neighborhood. Funny enough, I was looking at the same board for moving to a new CPU.

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>>58379947
Cases are getting worse than ever. Screw having something unintrusive, well built, and practical. Just shove lights and glass on it and add five inches in every dimension for the 3% of people that will do a custom water cooling loop.

Every component they're showing is a slightly retooled thing from last year but with RGB LEDs

We have ridiculous gaymin laptops that only serve as demonstration pieces.

We have an RGB cupholder.

I'm thoroughly disappointed.

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>>58379982
This is the funniest picture I've seen all day
Thanks

Have this rare Pepe

>>58380009
Okay, I'm glad you say that, because it's something I definitely would prefer to think. I just worry when I consider how complex the parts are and also how many of them there are, all working together... I suppose all the loud complaints online about defective parts make it seem like a more common occurrence than it really is.

>>58380033
You really don't need a 640w gold PSU. Get any 430w seasonic based unit for £40 and put the savings into something else.

>>58380070
That's a nice pepe, mind if I save it? As for my picture, save it. It's all yours, friend.

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>>58380066
>Screw having something unintrusive, well built, and practical.

I remember wanting a lovely looking flashy case and going for going for pic related. Just a box with a load of holes punched into it for cooling, essentially. Feels like a good choice three years later.

>>58380097
Save it but don't tell the policeman

>>58380077
Few people have a reason to come online and say everything worked. When it doesn't work, people want to vent.

You can be unlucky. My GPU randomly died after a couple of years. Then EVGA sent me one that's two generations newer and better and quieter because it was within warranty. Free upgrade.

>>58380066
Dan A4 is shipping to kickstarter backers next week I think, ETA on OCUK stock is next month

Josh from NFC is shipping the next run of the S4 mini's and selling extras soon

Zaber is running their indiegogo right now

>>58380137
Link to any of these?

>>58380095
It's 550w, not 640. Are you sure? I know it's not likely but I really don't want to cheap out on a PSU and have my first build blow up on me.

>>58379482
Pls

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>>58380161
>Dan A4
https://dan-cases.com/
https://hardforum.com/threads/dan-a4-sfx-the-smallest-gaming-case-in-the-world.1799326/
>NFC S4 Mini
http://nfc-systems.com/s4-mini/
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/nfc-systems-s4-mini.96/
Zaber Sentry
http://zaber.com.pl/sentry/
https://hardforum.com/threads/sentry-console-sized-gaming-pc-case-project.1832126/
Forgot about the L27
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/lz7-quiet-mini-gaming-cube-with-internal-sfx-psu.596/

Got this recently. How did I do/what did I miss?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x2d6KZ

>>58380185
100% sure, you are not cheaping out by getting a seasonic manufactured PSU. That build will draw 200w under absolute peak load.

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>>58380102
I wanted something less vent happy and more compatibility so I got the Node 304. Nice that it doesn't have top vents so I can set things on it without potentially fucking something up.

>>58380281
Did you miss the part where it says the PSU is too big to fit in that case?

>>58380307
pretty sure that extra 5mm will be fine

>>58380066
>inb4 they start selling those at starbucks

>>58380282
All right cool, anon. I can't seem to find a SeaSonic PSU for £40. Got a link?

>>58380305
I prefer the frontside USB and I like the extra airflow from the top but the Node does look nicer.

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is M.2 a meme ?

>>58380239
Thank you, you are a cool dude.

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>>58380379
No problem anon, sff has been a passion of mine for about 3 years now, the hardforum SFF subforum is a great place

>>58380357
Xfx PSUs are all seasonic rebrands, check those.

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>>58380374
>buying an OS

>>58380500
can you even pirate windows 10 without being kidnapped by goon squads ?

What would be better out of Sapphire RX460 Nitro and Gigabyte RX460?
They both seem the same but the latter is like £30 cheaper.

>>58380523
Don't pirate it

How will a 1060 perform on 2560 x 1080p monitor? Should I just stick to regular 1080p?

>>58380750
Just stick with 1080p

>>58380750
I have a 1060 and I tend to run things at 1080p.

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>>58380434
What can you even fit in those tiny cases. Wouldn't you prefer something like this?

>>58380899
the A4-SFX can fit X99+a 1080 if you want it to
The S4 mini is more limiting, but it's possible with zotacs new 1080mini + some modding to fit it and an i7 6700/7700 in there

Zaber fits longer GPUs than the S4, and has internal PSU

L27 isn't really my taste but is neat if you don't mind short GPUs

>>58380899
Also, ew, no.
That case is disgustingly huge, and doesn't even look good to make up for it.

>>58380955
It was a joke, the case is hideous. Apparently it's pretty nice to work with though and has liquid cooling. But no, it's ridiculous.

>>58377161
I'm getting an MSI RX 480 8G soon. My current monitor is 1080p@60Hz. Should I save for a freesync/144hz monitor?

144hz or ips?

>>58381006
144hz for fast paced games like eSports or racing games. IPS for cinematic games and productivity.

There's only two things concerning computers that made me never go back. 144hz and wireless mice.

>>58381066

Meant to quote:

>>58381006

>>58379191
>Volcano Lake
DELET DIS!!!!!!

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8 or 16 GB of RAM?

and why is DDR4 so expensive, DDR3 was dirt cheap by this point in it's lifecycle.

>>58381250
8 GB of RAM. Get a better Mobo.

Looking to build around an i7. Not a gamer, but seamless HD video is important. Will integrated graphics suffice?

>>58381066
>wireless mice are good

You're joking, right?

Input lag, having to constantly recharge it, connection dropping out

Fuck wireless mice

>>58378811
This, don't fuck around when buying an m2 there's only like 4 NVME drives worth a damn at all

>>58381307
i'm trying, but the only "better" ones i can find on partpicker are all "GAMING" mobos that cost $300 and are full of pointless shit.

Of course i want overclocking, but i also don't want to blow half my budget on a mobo exclusively

>>58381325
The only wireless mouse that isn't garbage is the G403 Prodigy.

>>58379252
They do use mPCIe you bakas
>>58379286
Have you never seen that card connection?

>>58381325

>input lag
>constantly recharge it
>connection dropping out

Don't have any of those problems with the G900. My biggest concern was the battery life but it's great if you disable the leds.

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>>58381338

>>58380523
You can get it straight from microsofts own goons

>>58381006
144hz.
IPS doesn't actually give you any benefits at all anymore, the color is no longer an argument and viewing angles have become insignificant

>>58381325
I've never lost a connection or had to recharge my $20 mouse in a year
And I don't notice the input lag, what I do notice is the non-exact sensor

Why the fuck is the Intel CPU cooler so loud? Every time I boot it annoyingly revs up loudly for a few seconds.

>>58377161
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PTWDm8

just got these to replace my brothers old build (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4LPtqs)

thoughts?

>using wireless peripheral in a static application
fucking why

>>58381380
i know i should be aiming for a Z170 but like i mentioned its hard to find a Z170 at a decent pricepoint.

i'm also not above bumping down to an i5-6500 as overclocking isn't _too_ big of a deal for me right now. I'd like the option further down the road but it's not a hard requirement for me

>>58381550
>he doesn't have a treadmill desk

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/3s3CM8

Any amendments?

>>58381500
Just a little extra spent on a Z170 board would be worth it - you can easily get an extra GHz out of the i3 with the BCLK overclock

>>58381555
You need z170 to overclock you dum

>>58381322
Specifically the i7-7700K with HD Graphics 630. How robust is that thing?

i3 7100 when

>>58381637
What are you going to use it for? I can almost guarantee an i7 is overkill for anything you don't need a GPU for. Plus, the same Intel 630 graphics module is in every Kaby processor released so far – the i3 will work just as well.

If you're just watching HD video, listening to music, doing Excel and whatnot, get the cheapest i5. You definitely don't need to be overclocking.

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currently own a phenom/660ti in a mid-size case, and while it can still play older games at 1080p, it's time for something new.

looking for
-mini atx
-able to do 1440p at crazy fps on a a large TV and do day-to-day stuff on a monitor simultaneously

reasons for my selections
-kaby lake because new, but still unproven
-locked processor because i don't want to run into mini atx cooling issues with the big gpu
-1080 because it's the go-to
-32 gb of ram because why not

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Which RX480 should I be looking to buy? Does it even matter which manufacturer I get it from?

>>58381912

though the case might change, because it's designed for water cooling, here is some of my inspiration

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/MgYrxr
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/FbsJ7P

similar set-up. full-size power in a small case, all air-cooled.

>>58381935

bump

>>58381912
stock cooler should be fine for a locked chip. If you must, get a quiter tower cooler, no need for a loud ass 212

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>>58382136
But the 212 ain't no quiter

if somebody is up to it can yall find a node 202 1080p gayming rig that can handle DF and ""some"" video work/photoshop stuff.

>>58382161
>i7
>480
>computer case
>wires and poptarts

>>58382136

cryorig H7?

it's rated as the quietest at 1-25 db.

but, would a stock cooler really be fine? does o/c really bring out that much excess heat?

>>58381935
get a dual fan at least. Powercolor are not built as well as others. I don't o/c so doesn't really matter

XFX GTR is the best
Sapphire Nitro+ 2nd best and they have one for $244 with a $15 MIR as well

MSI 480/4 for $199 w/ $15 MIR and free shipping on amazon right now is the best bang/buck I would say

>>58382187
>does o/c really bring out that much excess heat?
Yes.

>>58380578
pls

>>58382158
I said the 212 was too loud and not needed on a locked chip.

>>58382187
>cryorig H7?
that would be a better fit.
>but, would a stock cooler really be fine? does o/c really bring out that much excess heat?
You're not going to be overclocking a locked chip. May as well downgrade the mobo and stupid o/c ram as well. not going to do much with a dedicated gpu. 16g is plenty unless you are doing professional work, get a 2x8 kit and a board with 4 slots so you can upgrade later IF you need it.

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>>58382190
I'm UK based unfortunately so those pricings are out of the question.

Gigabyte 4gb is by far the cheapest here at around £185 (about $227) but it seems like it has a lot of issues. XFX GTR is around £245 ($301) which puts me waaay above budget. The MSI 480/4gb is £222 ($273) which is still pretty high for me. My budget's only £600 so I have to be a bit of a Scrooge with this one. You reckon I should just save up or is the Gigabyte version good enough? I don't really have any intention of overclocking, nor do I care about

I'm this anon: >>58380033

>>58382330
*nor do I care about ultra settings

>>58382261

i was asking about about the o/c just to get an idea of what goes into the process. a lot of people with this case run the standalone coolers even on locked chips for the airflow alone since the stock cooler blows perpendicular to everything else.

and the mobo only supports 32 gb of ram, might as well fill it up.

>>58382330
g1 gaming is junk,windforce is okay. spring the 20 quid and get the xfx 4 gig for $205, shop around your local big retailers too. I found the MSI rebate on newegg but the form says any us reseller is eligible so I picked it on amazon.

>>58382438
Thanks for the help, anon. You're a cool dude. I think I'll just go with the XFX.

Just to clarify, that's the XFX R480 RS you're talking about, right?

>>58377161
Gonna upgrade from this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/seinthebear/saved/KXmkLk

To this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CKNQLD

Thoughts? Or just shit on my purchasing decisions lel

>>58382569
yeah. not as good as the better xfx cards but will be fine at stock speeds.

scratch that this just popped up

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01IQS6QE6/?tag=pcp0f-21

one of the best 480/4s

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Looking to build a computer for gaming. I would like it to be at least 60fps and at 1080p if possible. I have a little idea how about stuff, but for things like RAM and when looking at speed and seeing if CPU supprts it says yes but only up to say xxxxMHz


I live in Aus and my budget would be about $2500AUD.

Been using a laptop that i bought 3 years ago for $1000AUD pic related. been serving well but didn't realize how bad it is until i looked to build my own pc

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retarded question but is it ill advised to plug in my PC to a multioutlet/power strip like this one

U2515H or an extra 200AUD for U2715H?

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>>58382743
Ah shit, anon. You're a fucking godsend. Hopefully still there 'til my paycheque comes in. Gotta get better at searching for this shit.

>>58382675
Well, I'm jealous.

>>58382786
No, you're supposed to. Try to avoid plugging it into a wall. The strips have surge protectors.

New to PC building here: How does GPU compatibility work with motherboards?

For CPU's, it has to match socket types right? But how does that work with GPU's? Say, 4-5 years from now, will then modern GPU's still work with today's Z170 mobos?

>>58381388
Even Pro?

Also, I heard they removed functions from W10 pro recently, anybody got details on that?

>>58383062
just "create installation media" from Microsoft website onto USB drive and boot from it, don't activate it (you only lose taskbar colors and "personalization" but you can change background still)
It works for home, I don't know if pro works unactivated

>>58383035
Unless some new technology comes out that nobody knows about, yes.

>>58383035
PCIe is backwards compatible and gpus don't use nearly all the bandwidth
PCIe 2.0 x8 will run most gpus, not a single ones uses the whole x16 bandwidth, and PCIe 4.0 should theoretically run gpus fully on x4
The way PCIe is going, it'll be fine

ok ill shoot.
4790k
gskill 16gb ddr3
msi 1080
samsung 850 evo 500gb and 250gb
WD 3tb hd
asus ROG hero 6
850 watt Power Supply
Acer XB270HU

>>58383217
3TB HDDs seem to have worse failure rates but that could just be a meme
How much is that PSU? You don't need 850, you don't even need 750, if you can save a few bucks or get a better brand by going lower wattage, do it
That motherboard sounds expensive even for an old socket, how much is it?

>>58383234
3 hard drives because my first ssd got full and the 500 gb was like 100 dollars so i had to buy it. and i got the 850 watt because i was running the 970 in sli. MB was like 225 or some shit its about 1.5 years old

>>58383217

Where are you getting the Z97 Hero?

>>58383294
it was a while ago so i think i got it on newegg

>>58383305
still considering upgrading the cpu ram and mobo

>>58383323

I personally wouldn't be in a rush. I just upgraded to the 6700k from the 4790k. There's no real world performance difference that I've noticed.

>>58383347
I hear ya, all the online tests say the same, i will probably wit for the next architecture to be released if it has a legitimate positive gain in any fps

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/q7BbVY

This is my current build. Everything is overclocked (i3 at 4.6GHz, cards at 1100MHz).

What should I upgrade over the course of this year?

How do I find out if a board has secureboot or not? I hear it makes older window OS's and linux a hassle.

>>58383406
Could probably add another stick of ram and trade those two cards for one more modern card.

>>58383498

this. 16gb and one solid card and you're set until your cpu starts to show its age.

>>58377161
this makes my amd friends sperg when they come over :^) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zyNQLD

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Please help me fine tune this before I start buying parts

CPU cooler is only on there for ideas, but I'd like to watercool this so I can overclock each piece and extract as much potential as possible.

>>58383749

And for the inquisitive, this will be used as a main rendering and design machine for a for-hire engineering workshop.

Maybe some R6:Siege when the boss leaves ;)

>>58369060
>>58369045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfwtlf30Ad4

Elite S340 or Manta ITX?

>>58382768
here gamer fag

is 240hz worth it?

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I was planning to upgrade my old i5-750 to 6500, mostly for gaming so I'll reuse my GPU and PSU until I get more money for a 1060/480.
The only local stop near me have replaced the 6500 stocks to Kaby Lake so I have no choice but its only a few price difference anyway.
Should I replace anything else?

>>58383934
No

>>58383986
Might as well grab a modern SSD if you don't have one. Not sure why you think you need to replace your case tho.

>>58384042
Yeah I have 120GB one just for OS stuff and 2TB HDD for the rest. For the case, I'm just looking for a smaller one than the current which is as old as the processor.

I'm about to pull the trigger on an i5-6500/GTX 1060 build. The last variable is whether or not I want to drop a little extra to get a Z170 board that can support non-K overclocking. I'm 95% sure the stock speed is good enough for me today, but I figure the OC option would be an insurance policy in case I need the extra cycles to extend the lifespan of the build in three years or so. Thoughts? In non-K overclocking a bad idea?

Relatedly, any word on non-K overclocking for Kaby Lake?

>>58384147
Go for it if you don't mind the work of pushing the bios back. Personally I'd just get a 6600k and make it easy.

>>58383986
Do you already own the RAM? If not, get DDR4-2400 vice 2133, because they're the same price and Kaby Lake supports 2400 natively.

>>58384187
I considered it, but If I went 6600K, I'd be out an extra $40 for the processor, $20-30 for a cooler, and I'd still have to invest the extra $30 in the mobo. Since this is all just speculation about what I might need in three years, that seems really expensive for an insurance policy. The 6500 saves me ~$70 today, with the option of OC-ing for the price of a cooler down the road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Hr-KOY6Ww

Need something small (enough, perhaps a mid tower isn't so bad) with decent 280 rad support

Manta looks good but the GPU may suffer

>>58384348
>Manta
>small
Buy a Define C/Mini C or something. The Manta's too fucking big for an ITX case. You're also going to have trouble finding any case you could call small if you want 280mm rad support.

>>58384105
Sure, smaller is a valid reason, but age isn't. The ATX standard hasn't changed for thirty years.

Is there a way to put the os on an msata ssd thats like 40gigs and have everything else run off a 2.5 hdd. I have a few applications that does let you install anywhere but the os drive. I dont really know anything about raid. Is this what Im looking for. Id like a smooth fast OS with probably only chrome and maybe 1gig reserved for extremely used small programs.

>>58384410
I'll just get the s340 then

The glass panels are nice

>>58384249
by your logic a or 7600 on a cheaper motherboard will be a better option. prob cost about the same as a locked skylake on a z mobo

>>58384602
I've been told (and it seems likely that) an OCed 6500 would seriously outperform a 7600 at stock speeds. If non-K overclocking of Kaby Lake was possible, though, I'd be seriously tempted by a 7400. Haven't seen anyone confirm non-K OC for Kaby, yet, unfortunately.

>>58384681
Actually, never mind. 7400 is overpriced, now that I look.

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-480-DL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-Graphics/dp/B01JGQBSV8

should I Pull the trigger on this for 215? or get the red dragon 4g for $170

I know they're shit but I have an old freesync monitor. Building it as a guest/ backup rig.

Should I go for 144hz even though I don't plan to play games that utilize it often? I'll occasionally play some shooters that would benefit from 144hz, but I intend to play a lot of games where I won't go past 60fps or games that only reach around 70-90fps.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMq49W

my current pc. could't find the case i actually use but its a rosewill.

Can rosewill ever become a respected brand?

>>58384802
I don't care how respected they are, as long as if they keep giving out free fans and cables.

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>>58381360
Those didn't look standard. If they are, I wonder why Asus doesn't list mPCIe on these boards at all?

>>58381555
get this one. its cheap and delivers just like those 300$ mobo

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/01/06/msi_z170a_sli_plus_lga_1151_motherboard_review/7#.WHHlb1UrKUk

Anyone got a recommendation for the best budget cheap ass keyboard and mouse I can get for a younger sibling?

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Is it safe to use this thing to fit a DDR3 1600 8GB SODIMM RAM into a AM3+ board?

I'm just wondering if anyone has tried one of these before.

Is an i5 2400 (with 1050ti) good enough for 720p recording/livestreaming modern games?

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>>58382809
Any input would be great.

>>58385217
It should work, but I don't think your RAM will register as dual channel.

>>58385542
200 more for 2 inches more? It would be difficult for me to justify.

>>58385614
I'm more worried that 1440p at 25" might make shit too small.

>>58381568


Nah looks good

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Hey /g/,
Could i get some feedback on my upcoming build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pG8Tjc

Not sure if i need a better PSU

Also looking for some feedback. Really expensive, but I'm also going to nab the Video card from the website once it becomes available. Gaming, and video making.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

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>>58386463

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>>58386463
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Sorry, fucked up my link. This is the actual link:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FytpVY

>>58386463
wow anon, great list! It's the exact same as mine

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>>58386508
>>58386504
I'm tired and an idiot.

>>58386529
if anything I'd suggest maybe going with a different CPU/mobo so that you have socket 1511 (and then can upgrade to Kaby Lake sometime later)

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I'm looking at 200-series mobos
I will most likely be running on a G4560.
Which mobo do I pick? I have to strong contenders

ATX:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1306985-REG/msi_b250_pc_mate_gaming.html
mATX:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAGY084/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Is there any advantage over going ATX?
Because other than having more PCIe slots, the ATX seems kind of unnecessary.
Plus the mATX is cheaper.

>>58386208
No feedback?

>>58386662
Could you elaborate what you intend to do with this?

Also: it's fucking 5am here desu

I don't know how it happened, but my motherboard's network adapter died. What are the decent network adapters on pcie?

I got my i7 5820K in the mail the other day. Haven't unpacked it yet.

Should I exchange it for an i7 7700K?

It's for a gaming PC.

>>58386670
Gaming, and a bit of software development when working from home.

>>58386789
cool, it looks really good desu

Hey you ignoring faggots (like me), let me put it in simpler words:

Buy DDR4 now even though it's expensive, or wait for a miracle to happen in a couple of months? Probably it'll raise in price even more as Ryzen will be released sometime soon?

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>>58386463
>>58386529
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

to cute

Been trying to figure out a build for my first PC for a while now.
>Purpose
Mainly gaming, but also general misc stuff
>Budget
$800 for just the computer, but around $1000 for monitor, keyboard, ect...

>>58387086
Whoops, forgot my list.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mKK49W

Luckily i have a few months before i'm going to do a fresh build, but it's real hard finding cases that tick the boxes.

I guess the simplest way to put it is i want a Small form factor Silverstone style layout, with Lian-Li's clean looks. Unfortunately what silverstone has on display at CES is a bit disappointing, i was hoping for a new aluminium chassis from them.

>>58387086
>>58387093
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6FGd6

What's the recommended OS?
Is W10 really that bad?

>>58387812
No, it's fine if you just do gaymen.

I want to make a mini-ITX build that is quiet, cool and powerful; should I wait for AMD's Zen CPUs and Vega GPUs to drop or will I be waiting for an eternity?

Hi. Currently using an old i7 860 / gtx 660 pc. The new one will be used to play games in 1080p, full details (maybe 1440p in a couple of years). I will keep my old hdd. Keeping the old 425w no-name psu is also a possibility. I'm french btw, so prices tend to get higher here.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/2D9Gd6
Alt build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pyhgCy
Any suggestions welcome.

How much you'd pay for little used

Strix 970 (OC)
4690K
Z97-A
16Gb DDR3
250Gb Samsung 850 Evo
1Tb WD Green
RM 550 & DVD

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Raven1218/saved/7QGkLk

first time putting together a high end pc. i wanna do 1080p vidya

Will 2133 ram not work for kabylake since the minimum is 2400 now?

First time buying parts in a while. Is now a good time? Should I wait? What's my bottleneck here and am I missing anything?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j6QDnn

>>58389027
650$

Why aren't there any RGB's in PSU's yet?

Are there any low profile PSUs for an eGPU?

I want to use an eGPU but don't want to lug around a massive PSU

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Anything I should change up before pulling the trigger? Heard a few bad things about the case but it's dirt cheap compared to everything else.

>>58389527
This reminds me of those people who live in shitty houses with Bentleys outside

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>>58389574
I live in a council flat with no car, anon. You're hurting my feelings here.

>>58389527
Not bad. If you have a little extra dosh though, you may want to pump another 8gb of ram into your rig. Depending on what you use it for of course.

>>58389574
No, that's more like a shitty house with an early 2000s Chrysler 300 (the V6 one, not even the V8 300C) and a Bentley badge on the grille with cheap aftermarket 20" wheels.

>>58389609
Kek

>>58389527
You really should get an SSD, if just 120 GB

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How's this?

>>58389640
I should've mentioned that I've got a 240gb SSD in my laptop that I plan on using. Just have to find my spare hard drive to stick it in the laptop so it isn't useless chinkshit.

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>>58389609
Bully me one more time, faggot.

So is it worthless cheap shit or is it good enough for a poorfag like me?

>>58389650
>locked CPU
>Z170
>2666 RAM
>GS

>>58379191
Kombustion Lake
Kelvin Lake

>>58389650
You can make do with a 5oo watt bronze, if you don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

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>>58389034
can someone please rate my build?

Built a lot of headroom in this pc on purpose so if I ever wanted to spend the money I would have good parts everywhere and everything to support it. I used it for regularly for mid (I guess) level gaming. Some of. The parts were gifts, so I didn't pay for some of it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pWn76X

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>>58389725

Actually, I upgraded to the 6600k. Is there something wrong with 2666 Mhz in general or is it just because the MoBo doesn't support it?

Also, what's wrong with my power supply? I don't get it.

>>58389772
Just get 2x8GB 3000/3200 RAM, pick the cheapest kit.
>what's wrong with my power supply?
Swap it out for the G2, it's a better platform and 550W is enough.

>>58389809

After further research, it looks like the G2 is more well respected. I don't really know what "platform" means in this context, but it looks like the G2 and GS are made by different people. I'll look into that. I'll also look into new RAM, but I don't really think I need 2x8GB. Thanks.

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pc is for games, music, movies, streaming/recording games, photoshop (digital art). in US.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBbv2R (ignore the other shit like peripherals)
any improvements to make it a better possible "bang for the buck?" i dont want to spend too much more if possible

>>58389721
Give me a few minutes

>>58389855
>I don't really know what "platform" means
It means what the PSUs "core" is. In the case of the G2 the OEM manufacturer is Super Flower and the platform is the Leadex II.
>but I don't really think I need 2x8GB
If it's for gaming only you don't, but imho it's not that much more expensive and allows for extensive mutlitasking and RAM hungry applications like heavily modded games and work if you do that.

>>58389865
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L4CzHN
Slightly improved and nice choice of headphones, X2's are fucking awesome.

>>58390027
thanks matey :)

>>58390027
oh, also, why that motherboard over the other? just curious. im not really that tech savvy so tell me like im 5

>>58389721
Nah, you're fucked

>>58390123
Why?

>>58390136
Because you're in Bongland and there isn't much I can do to remove the cheap Chrysler-with-a-Bentley-badge feel without going over budget or demoting your hardware.

>>58390113
Better value, more ports, better sound and costs like $1 more.

>>58390209
ah ok thank you again. i definitely want a good sound card with headphones like those. (i mean, if it does sound kinda hissy then i can always get a dac/amp lol)

>>58390172
Thanks for trying at least, anon. Should I not bother at all then? It's a bit ridiculous that a similar build in the US would cost me about a hundred quid less. This $1=£1 shit when it comes to PC parts is beyond annoying.

I only really plan on using the PC to save money on the stupid amounts of money I pay on multiplat games so I may just go for it regardless. I've come to terms with being ripped off for being a Bong now anyway.

>>58390352
Won't sound hissy but the GA has a better chip on board, also shouldn't be a problem with X2's since they are like what, 32 Ohm?
My PC can power DT990's 250 Ohm, sometimes i'd like a little more power, though.

>tfw you're not a Bong and don't get ripped off in prices

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>>58390559

tfw no reason to upgrade

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>>58390559
pls no bully

>>58388742
Zen CPUs won't offer good thermals and wattages, and most likely there won't be many, if any, mini-ITX boards at launch. Intel prices might drop depending on the category you're aiming for, but DDR4 prices might raise. The GPUs tho, they are probably worth checking out.

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Well hello, fellas. Got a bit of money so I thought it may be time to replace my last (wrecked) PC.

Here is the list of the components I found, I'm on a budget (900-1000€ absolute maximum) and unfortunately I live in France which means I won't have these sweet prices they have in Britain.

Its purpose would be to be able to run some high-tier games (GTA V, Arma III, Fallout 4) and more modest ones (Space Engineers, Subnautica mostly). Do you think I chose well ? I'm thinking that maybe the MOBO is not a very good choice.

I would be extremely thankful.

>>58390967
You can save yourself ~$30, if you drop the CPU fan. Unless the CPU states that it's OEM, you should be getting a stock CPU cooler, with your processor. Since you don't have a 6xxxk processor, you should be fine with a stock cooler, as you won't be overclocking. Other than that, looks good.

Here's my updated build. Is the 1060 good enough or should I shell out for a 1070? I'm only doing 1080p, will I be able to play all modern games at high settings with this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2NThtJ wasted my fuken money. Build is mostly a year old now

>>58391105
I want to go smaller...Like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m3RLpb

>>58391058
Okay thanks a lot, it's nice that you answered so quick.

>>58391099
The 1060 should be more than enough for 1080p gaming, on ultra settings. I have a 960, and am able to game at ultra/tweaked ultra on most everything. The 1060 is basically a more efficent, and powerful 980, which can game at resolutions of 1440p just fine.

>>58391105
>>58391160
Maximum autism.

What are some good aftermarket air filters I can put on a 120mm fan? The pantyhose solution has met a grizzly, tangled end and killed one of my fans.

Right, I got probably lost in translation or some shit but I'm baffled;

What's the difference between a GPU with and without power connector?
If we're talking about a budget pc build for casual normies (GTA V, etc) which one is prefered?

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>>58391446
>What's the difference between a GPU with and without power connector?
You talking about this thing?

>>58391602
Yes, I suppose so.

If I'm correct, GTX750 or RX 460 do not have those, right?

>>58391383
Silverstone sells some.