/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for the i3 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>58306637
>tfw only cases with the form factor you want are Cougar QBX, Ncase M1 and Lian Li Q10
>Cougar is covered in cheap plastic
>Ncase too expensive to import
>Lian Li has meme glass window

Just can't win.

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so after some careful consideration I realized I made a mistake buying a non-water cooler. i have some expendable income right now so it isnt much of a big deal to buy a more appropriate cooler. this one doesnt seem incredible but it will do for now until I get a better (bigger) case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2FVf8

here is the final build. I definitely payed premium on some parts for the brands, aesthetics, insurance, and shipping.

this is my first build, btw.

Today a friend asked for help for building a new pc

Found out gtx down to 1050's exists

How much of a meme card are 1050 & 1060 compared to the good old gtx 970?

>>58306637
G3258 or G4400 for budget gaming.

>>58307329
https://youtu.be/u0vBoXA4Tls
970 is better by a fair margin but is more expensive

Extreme poorfag here. A used 750 ti for $50 a good deal?

>>58307351
whats your price range?

>>58307494
yes if you're okay with medium-low settings at sub-60fps 1080p.

>>58307329
Go for an RX470 at that price range

>>58307579
I have a 1070 and a 600 w power supply and a micro atx case. So around 150 - 200

>>58306711
>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

Where did the $47 2TB HGST HDD come from? I can't find it anything less than three to four times that price anywhere.

>>58308008
>>58307579
I also have a hyper cooler 212 evo and HDD and SSD. I've been trying to squeeze the life out of my old PC and it finally died so I need a new processor, motherboard and RAM.

>>58307351
I wouldn't go lower than an i3 if you're planning to play any new games. Dualcore without SMT just doesn't cut it anymore.

>>58308123
What do you think about this.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDJLpb

Looking for a GeForce 1060 without coil whine

>>58308284
>600w psu

dude you dont even need 500w. even 400 might be pushing it

>>58307264
Core components are good, maybe would've done a 6600k if you're only gaming but meh.
That power supply is ridiculous, the ram is ridiculous. You have a case with no window, so why did you spend extra money on aesthetics? If you put it in a black or white nzxt S340 youll at least have a window to view your shit.
I'd say a 120mm AIO probably won't cool as well as a good $60 tower cooler btw.

>>58308284
If you want to save some money, you might consider the 6100 because it's only clocked 100 MHz lower. Or alternatively you could wait for Kaby Lake pentiums, they're apparently going to have hyperthreading http://ark.intel.com/products/family/29862/Intel-Pentium-Processor#@Desktop

>>58308341
I already own the 600w from a previous build.

Just ordered asus gtx 1070 dual oc, did I fuck up?

For use with triple 1080p displays.

>>58308351
thanks for the advice anon. i am upgrading the case later which is why i care. it also just triggers me having autistic "gaming" aesthetic gear with ridiculous led's and plates.

this is an overclocking build and I do much more than just gaming (programming, music/video production, VM's) so the cpu, ram and psu I think are appropriate.

>>58307329
1060 is slightly better than 970, but if you buy one used you'll get a great 1080p card. The RX470 is the best bang for buck card, especially since stock clocks are so low (good OC possible).

>>58307494
Yeah

>>58308060
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100167523%20600003300%2050001984%204814&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36
Might be Russian roulette. Some people who received "new" drives actually received used drives. Check drive if you buy one for around ~50USD

>>58308284
A little weak for a 1070 build. Consider an i5 6500. No reason to get a 6300 over a 6100

>>58308400
No

Pretty soon I'm going to want to update my CPU + mobo but keep everything else in my system the same, including my HDD+SSD. How easy will it be to upgrade? Will it be as simple as installing new drivers? I'd prefer not to reinstall my OS.

Currently running H97 chipset, either going to switch to Z97 (may get access to a 4770K for cheap or free, they're still very good from what I understand) or AM4 with Zen if the price is what I expect for similar performance.

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No more room for HDDs, what is a good enclosure to turn old ones into a USB device? Is it worth spending $20 on what is really a glorified adapter?

Bonus points if it accepts 2.5" drives too and runs on USB power, but I assume that's not practical.

>>58308407
The power supply is ridiculous because a much cheaper lower wattage unit will be more than enough. EVGA GQ 650 is $71 and even that's overkill.
Why upgrade the case later instead of just buying a good one to start with? Wasting $59 and going through the hassle of swapping everything

>>58308501
You'll have to reinstall OS

Any i7 3770K or greater is good

>>58308522
It's not worth the AC power hassle to run 3.5" HDDs in an enclosure.

>>58308526
at the time of purchase most reputable gold psu's from 650-750 were around the same price, so i decided to go higher for just a few bucks.

i bought the case thinking I was gonna get a 6600k, but I changed my mind a few days later (before i bough all the rest of my components). i also had to end up buying another cooler because the one i originally got just wasnt gonna be good enough.

my mistake for reconsidering my budget halfway into buying my parts.

>>58308577
>>58308526
to add to this, what is a case you would reccommend for the components I bought? something all-black with a window and nothing flashy

Reposting from old thread!

Anyone here have a Fractal Design Nano S, or maybe seen one up close? I'm planning to move my system to itx and want to use one.

Do I get a 850W PSU for my planned 6700K/1080Ti build or a 1000W in case I get a second later on and run them in SLI?

I plan to overclock and using the Titan X as a guide it looks like each card will suck 300W at max.

If there's a lack of power, what normally happens?
Would the hard disk begin clicking when the computer tries to use it, after post/bios screens?

>>58308376
you can edit out the price to 0.00

>>58307264
>6700k
>mistake by not buying a watercooler
6700k are extremely cool and a double fan aircooler would last longer and be just as good if not better

>>58308407
I'm sure you're aware the programming, music production and VMs take almost no CPU power

>>58308664
Nvidia themselves recommend a 600w PSU for the Titan XP
300w of graphics cards isn't unheard of nowadays

>>58309187
meme post

>>58306637
alright so my laptop just broke. Any of you fags have any experience building laptops.
Im looking at ordering parts for a known laptop set off of ebay. It looks promising as hell if I can get everything. I think if I can get the wifi card, ram from my current laptop to work the total for a razer blade 2015 could be like $400

>>58309303
But it's true, not a single one of those uses requires hyperthreading to run well
Programming and music production as "computer hardware demands" are embarrassing

>>58309329
to everyone grinding against a budget, you were just going to blow it on goofy nerd stuff anyway if you had more

silicon power ssds are cheaper for more. anything to be wary of here?

>>58309430
the cpu is primarily for gaming. programming, m/v and VM's were justification for the ram. learn2read

>>58309579
The only absolute requirement for that build is the aio cooler, that's what'll make it worth using

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hello /g/, what better buy, fx83** or i5-6500?
primary for game pc bild (use old 760gtx from old pc)
not steaming in twitch, just simple playing games
pc will be updated where the by ~ 4 years (only maeby video card update on halt this time)
sorry for my potato english

>>58309662
i5-6500.
You're gimping yourself with the 83xx series.

E5 1650 Sandy Bridge System for 200€
ye or meh?
With 8gb RAM, 425 Watt psu, shit GPU, generic case, three fans and stuff.

Just bought a Palit Super Jetstream GTX 1070. Did I do good? Upgrading from GTX 760

>>58309662
By far the i5 6500

>>58309820
Seems ok. If you're trying to add in a gfx card, make sure the PSU has an 8-pin

>Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fwvMXH
Budget 1K to 1.5 max
Gonna be used mainly at my office for web browsing, .doc and .xls editing, some light 4k gaming mainly single player games

>>58309883
I'm actually thinking about a 1050ti since it's pcie only and it doesn't come with a cable but it's PSU has a 8pin connector...
Another thing is I'd like to try doom which favors AMD afaik...

>>58306711
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>including those retarded builds
Maximum autism.

>>58309948
Doom runs great on fucking anything
It's not an AMD vs nvidia thing when the game just runs that well

>>58309914
Why H170? Seems like a Z170 would be better at that price. You can use fast RAM and get an unlocked chip later to go with your cooler.

>>58309958
I'm starting to wonder if you're losing referral revenue or something

>>58309948
1050Ti is really only good if you don't have PCIe power connectors. Otherwise other cards are more powerful and have a better price/perf ratio

>>58310001
>Why H170? Seems like a Z170 would be better at that price. You can use fast RAM and get an unlocked chip later to go with your cooler.

I dont plan on OC ever, dunno about faster ram, would I see a noticeable performance gain?
As for the cooler I just want something more silent than stock

>>58310026
You'd see a bigger performance gain by overclocking

I am seriously considering using this TV as my monitor for my build. It's like 27" and I feel its too fucking big for my desktop. Will everything fit here? I'll be using a mid-tower. I guess I could put the tower below but still, is this 2 big? Will being so close to it affect my vision?

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>>58310090
pic related

I think there's enough space for the keyboard/mouse, but I am really afraid my eyes will fry or something

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>>58310026
H170 is for multiGPU. You might want a B150 or H110, but at your budget it doesn't matter.

>>58310001
Yeah I'm torn between the 1050ti and Rx 470. It's a price difference of 40shekels but I'm not sure if a 425watt PSU would handle a 470. Xeons eat up power under load.. The 1650 demands up to 180 watt.

>>58310115
Get a deeper desk nigga

>>58310184
yeah, that's my plan. But I'm still worried about the tv being to big and making me blind or something

I'm in a bit of a bind folks. Would a 4k@60 monitor be better than a 1080p@144 one? Both options are 24 inch monitors. I could also consider a 27-inch 1440@60 setup. Currently I have a GTX 980 Ti that runs 1500 mhz stable and an i5 4460

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>>58310216
>TWENTY FOUR INCH FOUR KAY MONITOR
>NINE EIGHTY TEE EYE

>>58310216
Get 1440p 144Hz Gsync. Why the fuck would you not list the best option?

>>58309159
>6700k
>double fan

You're getting meme'd on. My OC'ed 6700k barely gets above 60c at load with a 212 evo

>>58310001
Builds are shit m8.

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>>58310427
Nice criticism, m80

>>58309914
Ram, SSD, hard drive overpriced, get something cheaper.
2tb refurbished drives go for a bit over $30

For the power supply, get a cheap seasonic OEM one, you can get 550w/650w for between $20-$40

>>58310475
>>58309914
Also motherboard is meh and overpriced, look at elsewhere/Slickdeals

>>58310216
da fuck why would you ever want a 4k 24" monitor?

>>58310462
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
>Zalman T5
>shit as ugly case with only one fan
Deepcool TESSERACT for $34 comes with 2x120mm fans and has MUCH better layout.

>2x4GB Gayl EVO for $49
Retarded. Team Elite Plus 2x4GB costs $36.

>ADATA SP550
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7415/adata-sp550-sata-iii-120gb-240gb-480gb-ssd-review/index11.html
Shitstack of a SSD. PNY CS1311 destroys your ADATA.

>Corsair R200
>recommending overpriced cases when cheaper equally good cases exist

>PowerColor anything
Shit PCBs across the board: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nEbpn6NKPQ
XFX and Sapphire are both much better and offer great prices.

>EVGA 1070/1080
Enjoy your housefire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbl0fLY06U

>recommending EVGA 500B for a 6600K + 1070 OC build
>not recommending the EVGA G2 or at least SeaSonic G 550.

>not including H110 mobos for budget builds
>not including great OC mobos like the Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3 for high end builds


Bottom line: your builds are disgusting shit and a waste of money.

Is there a 144hz monitor that also comes in an identical 60hz version? I want two screens that look identical but dont want to pay for two 144hz when I only want one.

>>58306711

this is a pretty good list but they are also not valid because several parts are no longer avalible and dont have pictures, also the Mobo and GPU and Ram and Storage is constantly changing

sometimes others are much cheaper, the easier method would just be to post the actual parts, let the people click on the sorting and choose the cheapest

especially with how mechanical the GTX's are now a days

also you have a RX470 listed, you can get a 1060 6GB for the same price and its light years ahead

there is zero reason to use any AMD products anymore, outside of the 1 month the RX 480 came out this summer, before Nvidia released their 1000 series

>>58310328
But a good single fan radiator is comparable to a 240mm watercooler, I was just suggesting a better alternative if he actually thinks an aircooler was the biggest mistake of his build

>>58310743
480 is as good and arguably better than a 1060 now
The point is they are matched and there no reason to prefer a 1060 or prefer a 480 outside of specific circumstances

When is 1080ti dropping. I wanna see the 60 & 70 possibly drop in price

>>58310894
They won't.
Unless you think the 1080 will be pushed down 30% of its price, the 1070 and 1070 prices aren't changing at all
1080 and Titan XP are the only prices that will go down, and even the 1080 going down is assumption

>>58309805
>>58309883
thanks

>>58310959
Titan won't go down.
1080ti won't be faster than the new Titan.

>>58310743
>this is a pretty good list but they are also not valid because several parts are no longer avalible and dont have pictures,
Yes, but it's clearly stated that the reader should click the Build to read its description. The real point is the skeleton, and the parts are just examples.

>on also the Mobo and GPU and Ram and Storage is constantly changing
Yes, and how is this a bad thing? I'm trying to keep the parts somewhat up to date.

>sometimes others are much cheaper, the easier method would just be to post the actual parts, let the people click on the sorting and choose the cheapest
Not sure what you mean by this, but you can click on the build to see its skelly.

>especially with how mechanical the GTX's are now a days
U wot

>also you have a RX470 listed, you can get a 1060 6GB for the same price and its light years ahead
Doubt it.. aftermarket4GB RX470 is 185USD or less, while the 3GB 1060 is 200USD last time I checked.

>there is zero reason to use any AMD products anymore, outside of the 1 month the RX 480 came out this summer, before Nvidia released their 1000 series
Agreed regarding AMD's current CPUs/APUs, but the RX470 is the best price/perf card for 1080p, which is why it's listed in a lot of those builds. The notes section suggests that 470/480/1060 can be swapped out at will.

>>58311042
But 1080ti is the Titan GPU, with the Titan RAM, for almost half the price. The Titan XP of course being an overpriced card specifically made for the non-professional market that wants "the best" and is willing to drop $1400 for "the best"
"Better" or not you can bet your ass the Titan XP will go down

>>58311094
Eh I'm referring to the Pascal Titan x when I say Titan

>>58311137
Obviously

>>58311094
1080ti won't be as fast as the Pascal Titan x mark my words

>>58311137
Oh, the OLD Titan X, sure that won't go down, it's already down and it's already worse than last-gen midrange gaymen cards. So I don't see why you would want that when a 1080 (which probably will drop) is literally better than the old Titan X, and in much better stock

>>58311194
But it will be the exact same hardware for $600 cheaper
People birch about the 1080 only having 20% better performance than a card $200 less, you think a $1400 card that performs similar to a $800 card will still hold value?

Looking to build a 1080p gaming pc for ~€ 1000

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hr2dM8

This is what I got so far. Unfortunately the i5 6500 is around € 225 here and the 1060 € 300.

Thoughts?

>>58306711
When did WD get so bad and when did Toshiba suddenly not be as bad as Seagate?

>>58311251
>the i5 6500 is around € 225 here and the 1060 € 300
Smells like Jewmany...
If your build is not meant to OC it's wasting money.

>>58310686
Sorry, didn't see this earlier. I'm not opposed to changing any of the parts if you link me to better ones.

>case
No blue, no LEDs, no window. T5 has SSD mounts and a low number of external bays

>RAM
Could be that prices have changed. The Geil is usually the cheapest and has compatability with the mobo I selected. I updated RAM not too long ago. Also you have to compare 3000MHz to 3000MHz, not sure that you are.

>case
It's a safe choice.

>Powercolor
The warranty is fine and stays cheap. If you have a particular model that you think is better, list it.

>EVGA
It's a tiny, tiny number of cards

>PSU
I'll think about it for the 1070 build, since the 50W might come in handy considering the user could easily upgrade to a 300W card

>H110
Basically same price as B150 with fewer RAM slots. I've considered changing to H110 with a single stick 8GB RAM config. I figure it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
>Higher quality Z170
The builds are the basics. If you're someone who's trying for insane voltage, you know what you need.

>Bottom line: your builds are disgusting shit and a waste of money
Bottom line: your criticism is minor and your opinions childish

>>58311730
It's all of the FTW evga 1070s and 1080 that lack the proper thermal connections
And a "safe" case choice can be made for $20

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>>58310686
Forgot

>SSD
ADATA and PNY SSDs are right next to each other in screenshot, 81 vs 83, but I'll change those over if there's only a $4 difference

It's kinda a pain in the ass to keep everything updated, especially for something relatively minor like the difference between the SSDs. The important thing is to get a good price/GB with SSDs, so that means no 120GB drives.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K6sTFd

What do you guys think? First PC... Been using a shitty macbook pro for the last five years and I can't handle another day.

>>58311771
As far as I'm aware there isn't a recall of EVGA cards.

Link case with a good price history

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I wanted to build this in a 5-gallon aquarium with mineral oil just for aesthetics. Is this worth it? Or is mineral oil a meme?

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>>58311251
Come on you should know that a 480 is the better choice if you don't play GTA V 24/7

>>58311865
>1000W PSU

>>58311899
>mineral oil
>guts swim around using CPU cooler for propulsion

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>>58311251
>>58311912
AMD is finewine technology it ages a lot better

>>58311921

Well, I was going to build mounts for the parts once I got the aquarium if not trolling.

>>58311877
No there isn't, they're shipping out thermal pads for free and replacing any cards that catch on fire
Probably because recalling every single one of the most popular line of the most popular gpus and then replacing them, replacing their entire GPU stack they bought from nvidia, would be kind of retarded, safety issue or not

>>58311937
Point is if the guts are submerged the cooler is unnecessary and the fans would probably burn out quickly

>>58311899
Mineral oil is apparently very high maintenance with cracked plastic/glass, oil cleaning and cleaning oil that creeps up your cables and out of the PC

>>58311921
I keep hearing not to skimp out on the powersupply so even though it was overkill it didn't seem like a bad idea. What do I actually need?

>>58311970
The fan is unecessary, the cooler still serves as a low-heat-density heatsink and should be kept
But yeah, get rid of your fans and put a simple aquarium recycler in

>>58311981
"don't skimp" means to get a quality brand and build quality, not high wattage
You don't need more than 650w, you don't need more than 550w, you just need a good PSU
People here generally recommend seasonic power supplies or EVGA's G2 whatever. Corsair rebrands other PSUs (like many companies), so while they have some good PSUs, they have some shit PSUs (like the CX series)
Seasonic isn't expensive and is pretty damn quality

>>58311730
>No blue, no LEDs, no window.
What?

>Also you have to compare 3000MHz to 3000MHz
No. 3000 RAM simply makes no sense for non-OC builds, therefore it's a complete waste of money.

>case
Sure a safe choice, but why? There are other cheaper options that are just as good or better: CM N200/300/400, Tt H15/25 and Deepcool TESSERACT.

>Powercolor
It's shit, end of story. Stick with XFX RS/GTR, Sapphire Nitro+/OC and for premium Asus.

>It's a tiny, tiny number of cards
So. It's also a tiny portion of Note 7's that exploded. It's a sign of bad design that one should stay clear off. EVGA is a good brand but they completely fucked up there.

>PSU
Include SeaSonic G for budget/medium and EVGA G2/G3 for medium/high-end.

>H110
No. B150 is still more expensive, this matters especially for low-end budget builds. H110 gives you everything you need and usually saves you 10-30 bucks.

>your criticism is minor and your opinions childish
>saving money and avoiding shit parts is minor and childish
Lmaoing at your face m8.

>>58311981
Check the upper right corner of pcpartpicker. 500-650W is the sweet spot for a build like yours

>>58311989
>>58311970

I can understand that. I really only wanted it for the appearance. I just wanted it to seem active submerged and didn't know if the power supply that I chose would be enough "activity for me."

>>58311974

I was worried about that. I know that I have to use plastic, and oil creep is the main thing scaring me. Oil cleaning and maintenance, I'm not so bothered by.

>>58311826
Just go on tweaktown and compare SP550 and CS1311 benchmarks.
Especially if you have to go budget every dime matters and you don't want to waste money on some mediocore parts if you can get much better ones for the same price.

>>58312040
>>58311974
>feed cables though small holes in top of aquarium
>uses chewing gum to seal the holes
No creepers

>>58312019
>What?
I'm telling you that the case you suggested is gaudy, and windowed is not a basic option. The T5 is black and windowless

>3000MHz
It completely makes sense for any build with Z170. See >>58310174. The B150 builds have 2133

My previous rebuttable applies to the rest of your points.

>saving money and avoiding shit parts is minor and childish
You probably saved $10 off a $6-700 build, nice job.
>shit parts
No parts are shit. I realize this is 4ch, but try to turn off the hyperbole for a minute

>>58312056
>much better
Not really much better, see the previous screenshot. They're right next to each other in value, 81 vs 83. But I agree, and I'll change it if I can find the PNY ones for a good price

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>>58312103

>Chewing gum

Fuck man, I got so much of this shit laying around.

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>>58312155
Unless it's oil-soluble

>>58312120
>I'm telling you that the case you suggested is gaudy, and windowed is not a basic option.
You realize that case comes with and without a window kit and who cares if there are one or two LED fans?
With a non-window version you only see the front LED fans and imho that's something you shouldn't care about considering how good the whole package is.
Also, you are not less autistic than the regular /v/tard who demands his LEDs if you say such a good case is not an option because it has a fucking LED fan.

>The B150 builds have 2133
Yes and it's still stupidly expensive "gaudy" Gayl RAM for 50 bucks when you can get Team Elite RAM for 35 bucks.

>My previous rebuttable applies to the rest of your points.
It doesn't. You willingly and knowingly include parts that are more expensive and/or of lesser quality.

>You probably saved $10 off a $6-700 build, nice job.
Nope. I save more and/or have higher quality parts.

>Not really much better, see the previous screenshot.
Yes it is much better, see benchmarks at tweaktown. SP550 is mediocore at best while the CS1311 offers excellent value and good results.
>if I can find the PNY ones for a good price
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#m=1,31&t=0&i=25&f=3&S=240000&sort=a10&page=1

Your builds need alltogether to be reworked.
Anyways.. we can discuss this later, i need to sleep. It's already 5am in EU.

>>58312555
Geil ram is even cheaper than heatsink-less ram, as are many "gaudy" ram sticks

>>58312555
>case
Again, nothing wrong with the T5 except that it only has one fan. Find me a black case with two external bays and SSD mounts for the same price that's better, or better yet link a few.

>Gayl RAM for 50 bucks when you can get Team Elite RAM for 35 bucks.
It's not on pcpartpicker, and I can't be updating and checking mobo compatibility every fucking sale. I just checked on pcpartpicker, and Geil is $2 more expensive than the best deal on there. AND I know it's compatible with the mobo.

>SSD
I already updated the first two SSD containing builds.

For a dual monitor setup, does it make any sense to have one monitor be IPS and the other TN (each maximizing visuals for graphic design and gaming purposes, respectively)? Or should the monitors be the same type but compromising on both qualities?

>>58312698
It is on PCPartpicker....
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhM323/team-memory-tpd48gm2400hc16dc01

And it is compatible, if the Mobo is rated for working with 2133 MHz Ram, then the Team Elite 2400 gets downclocked to 2133.

>>t. Avexir Core 2400 Ram with H110 2133.

>>58312846
It probably wouldn't matter, probably wouldn't even be noticable with different backgrounds on each, just make sure the tn is facing you more head-on

>>58312846
I would go 60hz ips and 144hz tn, I already have the ips and my plan is to get a tn for competitive games

>>58312884
That RAM is $54 on Jet. Sold out on newegg. Geil is better for the list

>>58312884
You can't just assume that the mobo can use the RAM.. you have to check the documentation if you want to be sure.

Be honest, is a Bronze PSU remotely reliable?

>>58313526
the 80+ rating means the the PSU can supply its rated watts continuously and the Rankings are measures of efficiency . What really matters for reliability is the source. If the PSU is from a trusted manufacturer like Seasonic it will be perfectly reliable.

>>58313591
Is Thermaltake reliable?

>>58313607
With thermaltake it really depends on the model, If you are feeling unsure then just look up the model on johnnyguru

>>58313011
It's in stock on Newegg.

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When the fuck is Vega/490x and the 1080ti coming out.

>>58313778
Out of stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313517&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

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cop or nah? i'm thinking about offering 120

>>58313857
Even at $160 it's good. Go for it, try not to get raped.

>>58313869
i want to save money tho and it probably won't sell before tomorrow around here. it's a good town and we have mutual friends so i don't think i'll get raped

>>58313857
Is there blood on the cooler? On second thought, don't do it.

>>58313839
Ah.
I Do'nt know why, but I read your post as "Out of stock on Jet.com"

Gotta stop staying up all night.

>>58313857
Noticed you're using gumtree, i need a new GFX card and might offer him $170.
:)

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>>58306637
Just bought a radeon fury fully aware of the PCI passthrough reset issue when the card is passed to a VM.
Only two known methods of reset: Disconnect GPU before planned shutdown, Hibernate host machine and wake it up in case of failure to carry out first method/ it crashes

Have I fucked up?

>>58313965
it's a local facebook page, try again sweetie :-)

Want to build a system that I can play games on and also do some intensive MATLAB stuff, I have a few questions though

>is 4K a meme? is 1440p/144Hz good?
>are AMD products really shit on Linux?
>if I had a Mini ITX setup, could I easily carry it? Are the mini ITX cases with handles memes?

850 pro 512gb a waste of money? i really hate the concept of SLC caching or any kind of turbo dynamic ultra pro write boosting BS that lower capacity drives seem equipped with so that they can cheese through benchmarks for better reviews even with less NAND

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zwQkqk
Never built a pc before and I'm wondering if I'm meming myself with these parts, any tips would be appreciated.

>>58306637
phenom 8450 @2.1 here
what do?

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can this build support two monitors running in unison? i'd like to game on one and run bullshit /g/ and shit in the other

>>58314382
Looks good. Don't buy Windows.

>>58314301
1440p high hertz is good, as long as you don't want HDR. 4K is a meme

>>58314438
Yes, but why spend so much on 1080p 60Hz monitors? That's a lot for muh aesthetic

all pretty and shit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpcwD8

relatively cheaper parts shit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jbJrpb

ultrawide shit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FpcwD8

??

>>58314632
Thanks.

I just found out my mobo's sensor are faulty after 3 years, right after the warranty ends. Everything runs fine but the cpu fans sometimes jumps to 18k or 32k rpm when it normally should be 800 but the fans run steady so it's just the sensor it seems. The auxtin1 also jumps between -128 and 127C only which just seems impossible. Should I be worried at all?

i guess ill ask here, which should I get?

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/611695/Microsoft-Basic-Optical-Mouse-Black

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/609705/Microsoft-Comfort-Mouse-4500

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/617916/Thermaltake-eSports-Ventus-Laser-Gaming-Mouse

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/621834/Thermaltake-eSports-Ventus-X-Laser-Gaming-Mouse

or anything else about that price range. i like the basic optical mouse from past experience but they all seem good. the third button would be helpful..

>>58314882
If that shop is the only place you can buy from, try to save a bit more and get https://www.ple.com.au/Products/617117/Logitech-G302-Daedalus-Prime-MOBA-Gaming-Mouse

Is Ryzen gonna be good? Considering waiting for it to come out

>>58314897
nah not the only one. theres stuff like officeworks and jbhifi i guess. does this mouse have a better sensor or something? i do care about that too now that ibthink about it

>>58314909
Yes if you're encoding; if you're gaming, wait for benchmarks.

>>58307469
>>58307676
>>58308470
thanks

>>58315021
I game and also do a lot of shit on MATLAB

I'm in kind of a dumb situation. I have to go back home from uni on weekends and am looking for something that I can carry in like a backpack and then have a monitor/keyboard at each location. Thinking of building in a month some mini ITX w/ Ryzen and a 1070

>>58315057
lol what the fuck. jus go home after your lectures

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>>58315066
my uni is like a 1.5 hr drive from my house and I already have a lease on my apartment til June, I have to home on the weekends to take care of my grandma

>>58315081
big deal you redditor. also why would you pay for half a months rent jesus

>>58315101
when you buy leases on apartments at my uni you buy for the whole year term, Sept-Jun

>>58315145
smart

>>58315145
the thought occurs to me it's probably not worth buying something I will use for the next few years because of a situation that will only affect me for a few more months

will i get some kind of bottleneck with this build? also should i change something? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93hfVY

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>>58306637

It's been a long time since I built a pc. After installing windows do I let update do its work and download all the mobo drivers, or should I get the mobo drivers from the manufacturer?

hi guys

I can fit an ATX board in a medium case right?

I'm trying to replace my old msi p67a gd55 with something compatible just so I don't have to make a full upgrade and can still use this 780ti my cousin loaned me.

So far I know the requirements are

DDR3
LGA1155

and I absolutely need
PCI x 2
SATA3 x 2, ( at least. I have 3 ssd )
SATA2 x4, ( and I need a total of 6 drive slots )
USB3 x 1 ( at least. I have an external drive and 1 usb to sata adapater )
USB2 x 4 for my mouse, kb, wireless receiver and the occassional usb drive.


I know I'm being awful specific but the thing is I have no idea where to begin looking. Also, I can't find the same board anymore. I tried amazon and got the prices I paid 5 years ago. I tried ebay and found nothing but broken mobos. fry's but everything is so over-priced there now. I have only mom and pop shops to try and maybe you guys.

halp?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sq69nn
How fucked I am?

>>58316174
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nNnxTH

Fucked enough that I fixed it for you.

>>58316030
as for the use

I just want it to be compatible with 780ti
I only intend on playing Fallout 4, maybe ps2 emulators, League of Legends, Starcraft 2 and maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe overwatch but I don't want a total graphical overhaul. Playing the games on high would be the ideal for me.

I also do programming and manage linux machines from time to time. I would be booting possibly several linux distros, w7, w10.

If it's capable I would like to do some light photo manipulation and image creating, in case I start JS soon, maybe light light light video editing ( fraps, obs, vdub ) and some audacity.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Z77-MPOWER-LGA-1155-Intel-Motherboard/142227072589?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D573e8b97e5a74320ba9b453b2c1acfea%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D252691968730

this one fits the criteria but I'm not sure the gpu will fit that pci-e 16x slot. It has everything I need but the gpu slot. ;_;

>>58316227
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nNnxTH
>ASRock
No-no-no! Been there, done that. Fuck that flimsy shit with garbage components.

>>58316299
Really?
That bad?

I was wondering why their shit was so cheap.

Probably have to go with the next brand up then.

>>58316030
What parts do you have already?

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>>58316247
uhh....can the 780ti be installed from either side? I just saw that it has pins on both sides. One appears to inserts itself on the wider pci bridge, the other seems to rest on the plastic for the shorts pci_e3 bridge. Is that correct?

I realize it would be kept out by the capacitors or the io panel so how exactly does this work?

>>58316174
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmG9nn
Bit more expensive but added a quality mobo, SSD and a HDD that isn't one of those fucking second hand Hitachis /g/ likes to meme about.

You didn't add a case or PSU so I assumed you either already have them or haven't browsed for them yet.

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>>58316425
No. There is the PCI-E interface on one side, the other has the 8+6 power and the SLI interface.

>>58311212
Titan's were never about value in the first place. Titan XP won't go down in price unless AMD releases something that's better.

>>58316365
I have a processor core i5 LGA1155
8gigs ram, corsair or patriot. I forget.
3 ssds
3 mechanical drives
1 external
2 gpu - radeon HD6670 and gtx 780ti
1 psu - BX850AE
some asus optical drive

and I have 300 bucks but I really don't want to have to spend more than 200.

>>58316465
Many thanks.

>>58316486
Thanks for that, I'll look it up.

>>58316505
this one looks kinda good but idk what kind of impact the chipset might have.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-B75A-G43-motherboard-MS-7758-Socket-LGA-1155-DDR3-Intel-B75-100-working/172309241473?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D573e8b97e5a74320ba9b453b2c1acfea%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D252691968730

>>58316505
Can you be more specific with the processor? If you're running it right now, post a speccy.

Also be advised that you can't just swap out a motherboard for a new one without reinstalling Windows.

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Will an i5 4460 bottleneck a 1070 in any occasion?


Looking to upgrade from an r9 380 to a 1070

>>58316030
>>58316505
Hmm

>I can fit an ATX board in a medium case right?
If by medium you mean mid-tower then yes. If in doubt check the manufacturer's website, it will say which form factors are supported. ATX is the most common so all but the smallest cases will support it.

>I'm trying to replace my old msi p67a gd55 with something compatible just so I don't have to make a full upgrade and can still use this 780ti my cousin loaned me.
The MSI P67a GD55 supports the 780 Ti just fine. It has PCI-E 2.0 whilst the 780 Ti is PCI-E 3.0 but it's backwards compatible so it will work.

You motherboard already has 2 SATA III and 4 SATA II ports so there's room for all your drives.

Unless there's another problem with your motherboard you don't need to change it.

>2 gpu - radeon HD6670 and gtx 780ti
Wait, do you mean you want to use both at once? Not possible. You're trying to mix two different cards, one AMD and one nVidia.

When you see people with dual GPU setups (SLI for nvidia cards, Crossfire for AMD) they're using two identical cards. Same manufacturer, same model, they even run at identical clock speeds (the speed of the slower card).

>>58316576
Understood about the Windows. As for the processor, here is everything on the back verbatim.

intel core i5-2400
SR00Q 3.1ghz
Costa Rica


There's another set of numbers but I think that might be my unique processor id and I maybe should hold that a bit...

I have thermal all over my hands now

>>58316714
cool, good to know about the gpu. Also, the mobo blew out. I'm trying to replace that. I don't want to jump the gun and be forced to buy a new processor and new ram. If anything, I'd like to at least have this machine for playing my emulators and some of the lower end modern games like league and steam titles. Mostly for working on software running C and probably JS soon too.

>>58316728
so I just realized I have 1333 ram but a 2400 processor.

Could it be that the slight chug I feel after a quick type and scroll is that difference between those two values?

It only just now occured to me..

>>58316794
No. The CPU model number and the RAM frequency have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

so i switched my old piece of shit case for a slightly less shitty case, and my temps just seem to be fucking insane for some reason while the cooler and case barely feel even warm.

thermal margin in amd overdrive is about 10 when im playing and cpuid claims my cpu is at 120c+ under load. are the sensors busted or is my pc a fucking house fire waiting to happen? im kind of shit at PCs but im too cheap to buy prebuilt ones

>>58316814
How many system fans and in what orientation?

>>58316823

just one in the back, set to blow out. tried it the other way too but it didnt make any difference

>>58316771
Ah, that makes sense.

You need a motherboard with either P67 or Z68 chipset, unfortunately they're pretty old now and difficult to find as I'm sure you've already noticed. Here's the only one I found on Newegg, and it's a refurb:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6BM42Y9636&cm_re=z68-_-9SIA6BM42Y9636-_-Product

It meets all your requirements re: SATA III, SATA II and yes it will happily support a 780Ti.

>>58316845
does your cpu throttle at all?

>>58316868

nope. thats kinda what im worried about. you know if it doesnt realize to throttle itself if something is actually wrong and fucks itself up

>>58313857
Test it out and see how it works.

If it works fine, you should have warranty just in case.

>>58316894
then your cpu isn't actually that hot

try a different program like afterburner and see if temps are different

>>58314438
Why are you buying old CPU and MOBO when there are newer generations?

>>58316814
1) Check the temp with some other programs like Speedfan, Real Temp and Speccy. Sometimes a single program will give a weird result. If they all say super high temps then you have a problem.

2) If you're actually running hot, check the fans are spinning. You might have forgotten to plug the CPU fan in or knocked it loose.

3) If you removed and replaced the CPU heatsink, did you remember thermal paste? Is it definitely seated properly? If in doubt remove it, reapply thermal paste, re-seat it.

4) Check fan orientation, make sure they're blowing the way you think they're blowing and that you don't have to fans blowing towards each other, creating a stalemate.

Most likely 1) will 'solve' your problem.

>>58316848
Noice! Thank you!

And to think I had bookmarked a few z77 mobos with intent to purchased blindly.

Thanks again!

I may be back in a few weeks or months to build a budget ddr4 i5 6700k gaming build. I figure for that I'll just need the processor, ram and mobo. Maybe I can get like 500 between now and then.

Once more, thank you!

>>58317006
Don't listen to that faggot, any MOBO with 1150 socket will work, including z77 chipset ones.

>>58306637
PSA for anyone buying parts, had an absolutely horrid experience with pccasegear over the christmas period. Ordered the parts on the 21st and they only shipped from their warehouse yesterday. Took days (business days) for them to respond to my enquiries, assuring me that I would have the parts at my door by the 30th, but here we are. Also they wanted 80 dollars shipping for a case that Kogan shipped for 10 dollars less and $24 shipping. I ordered the case a full week later and it shipped earlier than the pccasegear parts did.

>>58316990

realtemp wont work for me, speccy gives completely ridiculous temps, which seems to be the case for a lot of people using the same CPU(x4 860k) after a bit of googling, speedfan gives me somewhat believable numbers(55-70c) under load.

shit like afterburner has them ranging from 5(lol) to 90c. its pretty fucking confusing

>>58317023
>order just before Christmas
>surprised when there are delays

To be honest, I have no clue whether pccasegear is supposed to be any good or not, but come on.

>>58317048
I'd believe those speedfan temps, 70 under load on air cooling is fine.

What GPU do you have? Some honestly do run at 90 when under load.

Anyone used the Z170 HD3 before? I got one for a 1070 build, never really saw the point in blowing stupid amounts of money on motherboards. It has heaps of USB 3.0 slots and can overclock, but has anyone got any experience with them?

>>58317022
I'm using 1155, though...

will I experience throttling, or maybe more cache drops?

>>58317048
>>58316990

also yeah, i checked all the fans. i have the case fan in the back blowing out, should i mount my cpu cooler with the fan towards it?

>>58317062

my gpu is fine. its a gtx 560 i got for free from a friend and he had installed another cooler on it, never goes over 50c

>>58317057
I expected delays, but not two weeks of them. Besides that, one of their reps told me that they'd be here 5 days ago, and they only just shipped. I can wait but I don't like being lied to by people I'm buying 900 dollars worth of shit with.

>>58317070
Sorry, I obviously meant 1155. There shouldn't be any issues using an older CPU with a newer MOBO, as long as they're socket compatible. If you tried to use Ivy Bridge CPU with 60-series chipset, THEN you might run into issues if the BIOS hasn't been properly updated.

>>58317095
What do you think of these four choices then?
Intel core i5-2400
SR00Q 3.1ghz
Costa Rica
8Gigs ram patriot
3 ssds
3 mechanical drives
1 external
2 gpu - radeon HD6670 and gtx 780ti
1 psu - BX850AE
some asus optical drive

and these three mobos, also including the refurb in that newegg link above:

www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-Z77-MPOWER-LGA-1155-Intel-Motherboard/142227072589?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D573e8b97e5a74320ba9b453b2c1acfea%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D252691968730

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-P8Z77-V-LK-LGA-1155-Intel-Motherboard/201769205187?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D93baef81f01c4ddf9a65ece872179aed%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D142227072589&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-B75A-G43-motherboard-MS-7758-Socket-LGA-1155-DDR3-Intel-B75-100-working/172309241473?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3D573e8b97e5a74320ba9b453b2c1acfea%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D252691968730


sorry about the disgusting links, tinyurl was being flagged as spam.

Alright, which PSU brands do I stay away from?
Which are reputable?

>>58317229
Any of those except the B75 (bottom one) should be fine.

The B75 would be ok but you stipulated two SATA III when it only has one.

>>58317332
Anything manufactured by Seasonic or Superflower is good regardless of the brand. If you're not sure about a specific PSU, http://www.jonnyguru.com/ is considered the go-to site for reviews, I believe.

>changed boot priority
>saved changes to cmos
>computer failed to start twice
>third attempt successful and throws up an error message about CPU voltage

It's not overclocked as far as I'm aware, though the capability is there. CPU-Z shows everything as it should be, so need I be concerned?

>>58317359
Thank you as well, my good sir. I'm a bit more pumped up about all of this. Wish I could repay the favor. Maybe when I get the build running again I can offer you guys something. IDK what but maybe something. Maybe a gift card.

You may not know it but you two just saved me about 200 dollars.

>>58317449
No worries, this is what these threads are for.

When it comes to replacing the motherboard this is what I recommend:

>Backup your files externally
>Format all your drives
>Install new motherboard
>Clean install Windows
>Copy over your files

I tried to transplant drives from one pc to the next once and it was a massive fucking headache.

>>58317489
I'm right there with you. I actually lost my main OS on that last rig like three times. Just earlier today I wrote over my win7 boot volume by dd'ing to sda instead of sdb. I officially have nothing but storage devices. I did burn about 5 OS DVDs prior, though.

I'm currently running parabola from the optical drive. Hoping I can wipe sda cleanly now so I can install and boot from hdd and not have to mess with these CDs. It seems that after a burn the computer starts to chug real hard and my keyboard hiccups to buffer the text. But maybe that's just the arch cache being written over in ram for the higher ( more random? ) values I have set from the wipes earlier.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkJcBP

Rate!

>in b4 "too low wattage"

>>58317955
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Anyone here know what could/would happen to my computer is somehow the bottom part of the motherboard touched some aluminum foil while it was running?

I had a some hanging over the tower because I was holding screws in it and I'm worried maybe I will set something on fire this way. Should I keep the foil away from the bottom part of the motherboard? I've dropped it on the top while it was running and nothing happened but I'm imagining I just got lucky.

>>58317979
Yeah, I wasn't actually planning on spending money on the OS (but my current rig still has some old un-activated Windows 8.1 so I should probably look into finding a newer base to upgrade with the assistive shit)

>>58317955
What is the build for and why are you getting 32 GB of RAM? Also, since you're getting a z170 chipset, you might as well get faster RAM.

The wattage of the PSU isn't a problem, but with your budget you really should get something 80+ gold rated that isn't corsair.

What do I need to buy to put a HDD/SSD into a disk drive bay?

>>58318014
It's for gaming / web browsing / general development and art use (preferably with the possibility to do those things at the same time). My last entirely new rig was in 2010, and I'm sort of splurging to celebrate getting a decent job with a decent wage after living in poverty for my five years in the university.

On the RAM, as far as I've been told, there's not a huge bottlenecking difference, and getting the 2400hz ddr4 would be almost twice as expensive. The amount of ram was just a decent package deal (and the possibility of multitasking with some decently heavy applications like Zbrush / After effects and other rendering shit)

>>58318014
>something 80+ gold rated that isn't corsair.
Why not corsair?

>>58318083
How much did you actually pay for the RAM? Because at least according to pcpartpicker, you could get 2x16GB DDR4 2400 RAM for about $150.

Beat choice for a 1440p 120/144hz monitor?

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>>58318209
seconding this

>>58318179
I paid like 120€ (which should translate to around 150$), but PC parts in general are a lot more expensive in Europe than they are in USA. Excluding the monitor, I probably paid around 1850€ for the parts.

>>58318209
>>58318353

I just bought a Dell S2716DG, and it's pretty awesome. My requirements on the screen was G-sync, 144hz, and 1440p, and the Dell was the one with the best price to rating.

>>58318410
>900 dollarydoos

t-thanks anon. I mean I could buy it but I was really hoping to not spend much on a monitor.

>>58318594
It came up as $400 for me. I was looking at the 24" model on amazon.

Personally that's the perfect price for me, although i need to sift through reviews to check the color/contrast quality

>>58312698
>Find me a black case with two external bays and SSD mounts for the same price that's better
Already told you. Deepcool TESSERACT. You only don't accept this answer because you're an autist who can't have a fucking LED fan.

>It's not on pcpartpicker, and I can't be updating and checking mobo compatibility
Yes it is on PCP. Team Elite 2400 RAM for 35 bucks. Why check mobo compatibility? It will run at 2133 anyways.

>>58318594
>>58318612
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/5hemd7/dell_s2416dg_or_dell_s2716dg/

>>58313327
No you don't, the RAM is standardized for a reason. At worst it will run at 2133.

>>58318667
The viewing angle issue of TNs has always irked me but getting 1440p/144hz/1ms/gsync/good hybrid stand/great color after calibration seems like a fucking steal for $430 compared to other options

I'm sold

alrite lads

I'm trying to put windows 10 on a usb but I have a sandisk usb and it wont detect it so I i did some research and apparently I have to mount the ISO to USB with rufus

I followed some diskpart shit and cleaned the USB and formated the partition as NTFS but then the guide added if I will be using UEFI i should set it Fat32.

I loaded up rufus and it automatically set the file system as NTFS but when i click on the drop down menu it has Fat32 (default)

I'm kinda lost here and unsure what to do I don't know which once (Fat32 or NTFS) I was supposed to use. Just want to make sure I'm not doing something stupid.

If it helps I'll be installing win 10 on an Asus z170.

>>58306637
I don't know this thread is not exactly a correct thread to ask but I would rather this then making a new one, so:
Which place is good to buy PC parts, as well as games consoles in Moscow, /g/? I also wanted to fix my M50 jack and buy new pads for my SR80i so does anyone know a good headphone shop in Moscow that provides these kind of service?
And what about site that you can find deals of second hand stuffs)?

>>58311267
Somebody, anybody

>>58318874
I don't get the viewing angle meme. Sure it looks shit viewed from the side. Don't you sit at a desk and look at the monitor head-on?

Shit viewing angles would be bad for TVs but I don't see the big deal when it comes to monitors. I have 3 TN displays on a VESA mount and they're all perpendicular to my viewpoint.

Looking for a 2nd monitor that is mostly going to be used for video while I do shit on my 144hz main monitor. Anyone got any recommendations for what I should get or stay away from? Looking to spend under $200.

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Whats the best under $70 budget 1151 motherboard right now for gaming?
Like, if I wanted to slap an i7, 16gb of ram and an 1080 in there and be set.

>>58316489
But nvidia is releasing something that's better, for 2/3 the price

>>58320382
don't go full jew on the motherbord you fucking kike, spend more shekels to support your other components

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>>58320407
But I only care to have one video card.
The only benefits I see are on other more expensive mobos are fancy designs and more PCIE ports.

Which brings me back to my first question, Whats the best under $70 budget 1151 motherboard right now?

>>58306637
Alright my old gtx 560 TI is on its last breath and i'm looking for a upgrade. I usually play overwatch and battlefield 4 but when i get the new card i want to lay battlefield 1 any suggestions.?

>>58318733
Incorrect. Yes, the RAM will have an effective speed of 2133 on anything but a Z170, but some controllers are unsupported by a mobo's BIOS.

>>58318655
>RAM
Again, that RAM is out of stock on newegg, and it's 54USD on Jet. Probably a pricing error or a sale or something. In other words, it's fucking useless to me.

>>58320445
The controllers aren't on the ram modules

>>58320382
>>>/v/

>>58320445
Incorrect. The mobo will tale the RAM and run at 2133. The memory controller is on the mobo if you didn't know.

>>58320396
The 1080 ti won't perform as well as the Titan xp, guaranteed.

>>58320738
This. Nvidia would be torpedoing their own flagship if they made the 1080 Ti perform better than the Titan X.

What they are hopefully going to do is offer 90% of Titan X performance for 66% of the price.

What is the hardest component to install?
What is the scariest component to install?

>>58321057

The PSU in regards to wiring everything to look good. That's honestly the hardest part.

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Is this a bad idea?

I'm saving $50 by getting a slightly used monitor from amazon warehouse. Unfortunately there's no description details as far as potential dead pixels go, just that it only has minor cosmetic imperfections.

I know amazon is pretty great when it comes to CS and returns, just curious if it's a bad idea in the first place to buy a monitor used like this

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I guess this is the most appropriate place to ask this.

Haven't paid attention to hard drive shenanigans for a few years. Last time I remember people suggesting to avoid 2tb hdds because of high failure rates or something. Are 2-5tb drives more stable now? I desperately need to replace my existing external hdd because that thing is old and was giving me read errors a couple of years ago, so I'm too scared to use it on a regular basis. What are some good hard drives I should be looking for? Seagate is still a brand to avoid, right?

Anyone have any experience with the MSI Bazooka Plus and the 212 Evo? I wanna know if it causes any clearance issues with either the RAM slots or bigger PCIE cards because it looks a little too small.

>>58321057
Scariest is the CPU heatsink. Feels like you're going to break the mobo every time

>>58321229
The only bad part about buying used stuff is that the usually don't have the manufacturer's warranty.

Most of the time, if a product is going to suffer a major fault, it's going to be within the first few weeks or month of use. The good news is Amazon has really consumer friendly return practices, so if something does go wrong you should be okay.

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>>58306637
Im trying to build a cheap 175 dollar USD build, I already have a GPU, RAM, and possibly a HDD

This is my current progress

>>58321364
>>58321364
Anybody?

>>58316587
What the fuck why has nobody responded to me


Is it a stupid question?

>>58321356
nah dude new seagate drives are good, most shitty harddrive companies fucked off, but if you stick to any wd/seagate product you'll have a good time

>>58321821
Cool shit, thanks man.

5V and 400mA
12V and 700mA

These are the ratings on one of my hard disks, so what is the power draw? 2W or 8.4W? Or neither of these and something else?

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is ddr boost a meme?
Should I not care about that shit because I was gonna grab https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128841 but saw it didn't have it.

Hey guys, I have a computer hardware related question.

I have an old HP prebuilt computer (no bully pls), and it has ran very well for the last 7-8 years.

Now, while it still works fine, the CPU fan gets abnormally loud under heavy load.

The same thing happens on multiple operating systems, and running multiple kinds of software. Before, the cpu fan would get a little louder under heavy load, but definitely not this loud.

How would I go about diagnosing and fixing this problem?

How likely is it that i just need to clean out the dust?

>>58322025
Would this motherboard fit in a NZXT S340

>>58322359
>>58322025

Anyone?
Wanna know before I pull the trigger.

does anyone use any shipping services to get stuff from the us that amazon won't ship to your country??

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Oh god, I fucked up didn't I? I'm a fucking retard...

Do I just return this mobo now? It's beyond saving right?

Fuck I'm so pissed at myself


... Also I got some thermal paste on my cpu(on the part that's not supposed to get thermal paste). Is that bad!

>>58323020
if it's under warranty return it

>>58323020
It's just the pins, bend them back into position very carefully.

>>58322108

clean dust, replace thermal paste

>>58323356
With what? Tweezers?

>>58323020

how did that happen

and depends if the thermal paste is conductive or not. if it is i think even a tiny amount could completely fuck your shit up

>>58323408
No, your dick should be large enough

>>58323408
Yeah non-magnetic, use a magnifying glass.

>>58323408
nah, with your dick

>>58323020
bend the pins back into place, then if that works, get someone who knows what they're doing. It really isn't hard to build a PC

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>>58323020
How do you fuck up this badly?

>>58323447

this, garden scissors are also good if you need to really get in there

>>58308620
Not him, but I'd go with an s340 (consider the elite version) by Nzxt

>>58323422
It happened because I'm retarded I guess. I don't know, I double checked the arrow placement, and followed the directions, guess I fucked it up
Also it isn't conductive thank god

>>58323449
Ok, might as well try it out

>>58323467
>>58323468
I've literally done this before, I don't know how I fucked up this bad. I feel like a total idiot...

>>58323499

well if its non-conductive and you didnt smear it everywhere like a retard id say youre ok as long as you clean up what you can and fix the pin

>>58310621
Retina memes?

>>58322010
approximately

>>58322108
>How likely is it that i just need to clean out the dust?
Very

>>58322359
>Would this motherboard fit in a NZXT S340
Yes

>>58322025
Not sure what DDR boost is. It has XMP

>>58311267
before 2014

Is there a way to reliably determine the power draw of my PSU (without physical equipment).
I used http://powersupplycalculator.net/ and my system would be 100W at idle (i5-4690k)

So, I'm in a bit of a quandary. I've currently got an i5-2500 (not the K because I didn't know what I was looking for when I built my PC originally), and I need to upgrade. Upgrading to a new CPU means I need a new motherboard, and probably new RAM, so I'm looking at just building a second system at this point. My problem is, should I stay with Intel, and go with the i7-6700K, or should I switch to AMD (which I know not enough of to decide on which CPU would be close to the 6700). Any advice would be appreciated.

tl;dr upgrading from i5-2500, stick with Intel or switch to AMD

Why overclock?

help me with this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wgy62R

I want something small

So I have a Phanteks Enthoo Pro and the manual says to plug its PMW fan hub into CPU_Fan. If I do that, where do I plug the cpu cooler into? The hub? one of the other fan headers on mobo?

>>58324152
Has nothing to with case.
All to do with mobo.

>>58324089
>I want something small
Look between your legs, faggot.

>>58324152
Some mobos have two CPU fan connections. I would plug the case fan into your hub or one of the mobo's non-CPU fan headers if you only have one CPU fan header

>>58324089
Spend a couple hundred more and get a higher Hz monitor with Gsync. Easy to avoid tearing, and you might get some low framerate compensation

>>58324042
Intel right now, but at least check on any developments at CES (happening now) before you buy

>>58324089
Small is mini-ITX

>>58324026
System load divided by efficiency, so like 100 / 0.8. You can also by a $5 wall watt meter

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>>58324440
>Small is mini-ITX

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nice video game consoles

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/cQjKnn
First build, got the CPU.
Will be used for emulation/game dev.
Ideally looking for £550 without the CPU included.
Any changes?

>>58324683
>tfw you got memed into buying a 1080ti just so you can run dota at twice your screen refresh rate

>>58324697
go for a 500w to be on the safe side, I think you're cutting it fine with 430w
those are my only comments

>>58324944

i just quit the game because the new patch fucked my fps lmao

>>58324962
Are there any basic rules on picking a PSU? Like what wattage is needed etc?
The estimate watt usage for this build is around 250. Why do I need a 500w PSU for it? One of the only parts that I'm unsure on.

I have an old FX-6300, and I'm planning on getting an i5-6600k (if ryzen turns out to be shit), BUT right now I need a new GPU, something better than my GeForce GT 710 around the $200-300 price range, that would also be good with i5-6600k so I won't have to buy another GPU when I build my new PC.

Any recommendations?

>>58325023

>its not a big investment
>good quality PSUs wont shit themselves and your parts with it
>if you ever want to upgrade you wont have to do all the cable management again because that shit is fucking awful

is it worth putting the money into getting a mechanical keyboard?
never used one but i'm not sure if it's worth investing in one. don't really do much gaming.

>>58325056

its a fucking meme to sell razer keyboards to 13 year olds

>>58313857
Speaking of selling shit, how much should I sell my MSI Z170A-PRO for? I'm thinking that 40 or 50 bucks is an okay price.

>>58325023
Oh and go for full moduluar you won't regret it.

>>58325076
Why? What's the difference?

>>58325056
I've been using a G710 with cherry blue switches for about a year now, I'd say it's definitely worth the 60€ I spent on it. The only problem is that you quickly become aware of how much cheap keyboards suck when you have to use them.

should i get any thermal paste? anything else i need for building the pc other than the components?

>>58325072
Flash it with the newest BIOS so it supports baby cake.
Adds value I would say.

>>58325093
A modular PSU makes assembly a shitton easier & cleaner result.
Maybe it improves airflow too, some people believe that.

>>58325056
I got a Das a while ago when I still played vidya and I currently own a Novatouch. If your livelihood depends on typing, I'd say it's a worthwhile purchase. Just don't fall for the gaymen hype.

>>58325120

paste is required, just dont use too much of it, was a mistake i made with my first pc. get an after market cpu cooler if youre not already getting one.

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guys what RAM brands and sizes are good/recommended right now?

These ancient 4GB vengeance dimms are no longer cutting it and I think they're actually causing some blue screen crashes.

>>58325159
does the cpu/cooler not already come with it preapplied?

>>58325050
rx 470/480

>>58325212

what? of course not if youre building it yourself. and the stock cooler(especially the AMD one) is a piece of shit

>>58325185
whatever is cheapest. it makes no difference, most ram is made by only 2 or 3 different companies.

>>58325185
at the moment 16GB is the sweetspot, get something with decent speeds and stability, shoddy RAM is one of the main causes of blue screens.

>>58325244
>at the moment 16GB is the sweetspot
makes no difference for gayman
8gb is still fine

>>58325230
okay thanks.
what should i get with it then? any remover?
any cable ties needed?
none of the things i've read mention what else you need other than the components.

>>58325303

would help if you posted the stuff youre going to buy

>>58325322
all the components that a pc needs to function
i.e.
cpu
cooler
ssd
memory
psu
gpu
monitor
kb/m

>>58325356

well a case obviously, and you will need the thermal paste if youre installing a non-stock cooler. cable ties are pretty good also, yes

>>58325356
What's an i.e.?

>>58325403

incredible erection you get from finishing your first build

>>58325424
Sounds dangerous.

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What would be the best video card for a this setup? I know I need to upgrade everything but I want to get the GPU out of the way first, also since I am sticking with AMD people said wait on upgrading that.

>>58325508
Oh I am on a 1080 60 monitor.

>>58325508
>amd processor in the (((((current year)))))))
I'm sorry lad

get
>used i5 ivy bridge or haswell
>used mobo

and
>used gtx 970
or rx 470/480

>>58325388
thanks.
any particular way to apply the thermal paste? is it worth getting paste remover just in case too?

Corsair cx550m
Sharkoon T28(€61 here)
I5 6500
Trust gxt 148
MSI GTX 1070/1060 6G gaming
OCZ Trion 150 120GB/480GB
WD 1TB/2TB
Sharkoon skiller pro
MSI B150 gaming m3
8GIG RAM
SPEEDLINK headset

Now tell me guys should i get 480GB and 2TB with gtx 1060

Or

1TB and 120GB with gtx 1070

Im going to buy this after 6/8 months
Will anything change that much in meantime ?
>no expensive mouse/headset/keyboard
>no "REEEEE CORSAIR MEME" neckbeards

>>58325602
Not going to oc btw
First build

>>58325595

watch some youtube videos on it, just dont overdo the amount.

isopropyl alcohol is good for cleaning the paste from the cpu and cooler if you ever need to re-apply it

>>58325589
I was looking to get an rx but I need to know if I should get a 480 4GB or a 470 8GB, 480 8GB is too rich for my pocket.

>>58325602
480 4GB.

>>58325658
There's pretty much no point in the 8GB version of 470 unless you plan to crossfire. Games just don't use that much VRAM at settings it can handle.

>>58325792
Thank you for your input.