/pcbg/ - PC Building General

First for my 4.8GHz i3 6100 beating Kaby Lake i3 $7350Ks

Gonna be ordering https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128841

Hows http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820231888 for RAM?

Also are there any good CPU+RAM deals combos I should know about?

>>58326276
If you get a non-K Skylake chip I believe that motherboard can overclock it with a BIOS flash

>>58326294
Gonna be putting a i3 6300 or 6100 in it.
Only thing that concerns me is if the mobo has enough clearance for my 212 evo.

I'm moving so I'm replacing my entire ring, pls r8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3c9nn

>>58326342
See if you can get a Gigabyte Z170 HD3P. I personally have that, I've overclocked an i3 6100 to 4.8GHz on it so I can vouch for it, and I have a 212-style (Gammaax 400) cooler that doesn't interfere with my standard height RAM or graphics cards

>>58326342
212 evo is trash, either spend a bit more and get the cryorig h7 or spend less and get the deepcool gammaxxx 400

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>>58326405
>212 Evo
>Trash

>>58326381
I'd personally go 2x8GB and have room to expand later, no criticism otherwise.

>>58326424
It performs like a Gammaax 400 for $10 more. It's a perfectly valid choice if it's on sale or you don't like the Gammaax's sketchy mounting system

I need a bit of help with SATA numbers and what I should plug in where.
My mobo has 6 SATA, 2 GSATA 2, 2 GSATA 3 - I think the G is just because it's a Gigabyte mobo.
I have 3 HDDs of capacity 1, 1 and 2 TB and a Samsung EVO SSD.
Which disks should be installed in which slots?

Corsair cx550m
Sharkoon T28(€61 here)
I5 6500
Trust gxt 148
MSI GTX 1070/1060 6G gaming
OCZ Trion 150 120GB/480GB
WD 1TB/2TB
Sharkoon skiller pro
MSI B150 gaming m3
8GIG RAM
SPEEDLINK headset

Now tell me guys should i get 480GB and 2TB with gtx 1060

Or

1TB and 120GB with gtx 1070

Im going to buy this after 6/8 months
Will anything change that much in meantime ?
>no expensive mouse/headset/keyboard
>no "REEEEE CORSAIR MEME" neckbeards

Also is 4gig VRAM enough for the next 3 years ?

>>58326424
it is, overrated cooler, a pain to install and huge as fuck.

>>58326448
SSD on SATA3, the other hard drives probably can't make out a SATA port so put them wherever.

>>58326472
1TB and a 240GB boot / programs disk is more than enough for me personally but storage space is definitely personal preference.

IMHO buy the better graphics card and if you need space buy more space later. Space is cheap and gets cheaper. If you get a 1060 now you've wasted that money if you get a 1070 later.

Any suggestions for this build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8vBFd

>>58326502
You can save $30-80 by getting a cheaper Mobo.

>>58326502
The 212 might not be sufficient for overclocking the 6600K very far. My i3 runs into heat issues at 4.8GHz 1.4v on the very similar Gammaax, and you've got twice the physical cores pumping heat.

If you want to get sketchy Newegg has refurbished Corsair AIO water loops for like $40.

>>58326472
>Now tell me guys should i get 480GB and 2TB with gtx 1060
This, but 240GB is probably enough

4GB VRAM is enough but in 6/8 months there will have been a bunch of new cards and CPUs released, so you're going to want retool your build

>>58326381
Cooler already comes with good paste
Get 3000MHz RAM

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>>58326393
Any deals on it online anywhere?

>>58326593
I'm in Canada so your mileage may vary on the price

If you're using a different motherboard Google around to see if there's a non-K overclocking BIOS available

>>58326537
Thanks, I just wanted to have an almost 1200 build.
>>58326557
I don't think I will be overclocking soon but I do have in mind buying an AIO later. Thank you.

>>58326640
>Z170 board
>K series CPU
>not overclocking
You could save like $150 bucks with an H series board and a locked i5

>>58326562
480 is €20 more so fuck it i am going to wait 6/8 months for AMD to force nvidia and intel to lower in price. Also is 4gig enough for the next 3 years ?

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Hello g/ents.

What is the best card for i5-4690 non-k?
1060 or 1070? Will 1070 get bottlenecked by CPU?

Looking at 1080p gaming at max settings 60+ fps, not touching 1440, for that im gonna build top pc in a year.

Can this boy run BF1 @120 fps? I'm new to this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhtMXH

>>58326651
As I said, not right now but I want to have that possibility.

sup g

what is good monitor for 1060gtx 6gb ddr 5 g6

>>58326482
Ok cheers.
Do I need to buy any special sata cabless or will the ones I have reach 6Gb/s? They came with the mobo.

>>58326672
You could probably do that with a computer half that cost

>>58326718
>1060
>6GB VRAM
What is this meme?

You probably want a generic, good quality, G-Sync 1080p monitor.

>>58326755
Wait I missed a zero

You could probably do that with a computer that costs 20x less

>>58326755
>>58326825
>replying to the bait

>>58326751
Nevermind I will, the cables it comes with are only 3Gb/s.

Is i5 2320 with h61 motherboard and 8GB DDR3 1600mhz ram worth getting if the price is the same as new i3 6100(130$ here in Poland)?

>>58326838
try to look for a used i5 ivy bridge or haswell.

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quick question, can the can you run it site be trusted as far as a guide for upgrading pc parts.
I personally don't trust it as I can run FO4 fine unmodded and kinda shit and somewhat playable modded.

>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
>Memory 4294967295 MB

>4 PB (Petabytes) of video RAM

What is wrong with my speccy or did I just get lucky with my card?

>>58326957
>guide
logical increments bruh

>>58326660
Get the 1060. 1070 won't bottleneck, but if you're only keeping it for a year just get the 1060.

>>58326718
Any $50 used 1080p 60Hz monitor

>>58326838
Eh, IMO you should build fresh with DDR4

>>58326957
Eh, you don't need an i7, but a better CPU and gfx card are in order

>>58327018
LI doesn't really have the greatest guides. They more or less show you increments that can be fairly worthless depending on which tier you pick.

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>going to build new PC
>Have a Cooler Master HAF 912
>Love it because it's big and spacey so I hope I can use it for my new build
>The Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 390mm long, but video cards over 270mm may block drive bays. Since the MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GAMING X 8G Video Card is 279mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.
>Asus ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard has onboard USB 3.0 headers, but the Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.

JUST

When will Z270 mobos be up for sale?

>>58327147
https://www.amazon.com/SIENOC-USB3-0-Female-Motherboard-Adapter/dp/B00O0HC3Y0/ref=pd_sim_147_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B24V738CWHM96392WY5E

It it worth it upgrading my current i5 2500k and r9 290?
It's fast, but it could be faster.

>>58326481
Huge = Good
But it's really not huge at all
Also it's $20

>>58327147
I don't see the problem.

>>58327148
Probably in a few weeks, (((techtubers))) already have their hands on them.

>>58327189
But the chips are out, how can the mobos be so far behind? I already have my 7700k out for delivery

>>58327205
Get a z170
Samsung 960 pros are already just as fast as Intel promised their optane shit would be long ago

>>58327180
>Also it's $20
What? No, 212 EVO usually goes for $29.99.

>>58327218
But it would be just about the same price to go with Z170 over the Z270. Might as well build on z270.

I'm coming from a X58 build

>>58327234
But why?
I just said 960 pros are already as fast as optane was promised to be
And I'm sure you've done your share of research into Z270, you already know that it's 100% Z170 + Optane support right?

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Check out what I picked up today for $140!

>>58327224
In the 2 months that I was constantly browsing computer parts recently, I've only seen them for $25, or $15 after rebate
But then again ram was priced for 16GB 3000mhz at $67

>>58327253
>But it would be just about the same price to go with Z170 over the Z270. Might as well build on z270.


I already said why

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>>58327273
Came in the box and everything, although I suspect he kept some of the accessories (really no idea what it comes with)

>>58327273
>he didn't offer $120 like /g/ told him to
If that guy is selling a GPU because he desperately needs $160, odds are he also desperately needs $120

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>>58327284
As you can see from the sticker there is no bullshit here, it's not a different card in that box or anything

Do people actually buy the $200 mobos?

What benefits do they have over cheaper ones?

>>58327282
It's *about* the same price? But there's none on sale and none in stock
There's two reasons right now to get Z170, you're able to

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>>58327302
I've had this flashed HD 6950 (that I also bought used) for five years

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>>58327324
Look at how clean it is! I almost feel bad at how little use the guy obviously got out of it

>>58327303
More unecessary ports
A USB 3.1 port in the form of USB C maybe
Metal reinforced garbage
red paint
LEDs
Motherboard armor

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>>58327334
New guts shot

>>58327298
Nobody told me to offer $120. I said I was going to offer $120 and someone told me it was a good price even at $160. I offered $120 and he countered $140 so I took it

>>58326259
Unless anything avx related is involved of course.

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>>58327351
Only problem is I didn't realize this card only has one DVI port, so I need a DisplayPort cable to use the second

>>58327334
A can of air will do that

>>58327363
I didn't see -any- dust or smell any dust. No can of air is that perfect

If planning to overclock non-k chips, get MSI motherboards. They are the only manufacturer who still allow it on the latest BIOS updates. You do the want to be stuck using a buggy beta BIOS from 2015.

>>58327409
MSI also makes the worst motherboards
Just don't update your fucking bios

>>58327316
They will be sale in like a few days though

>>58327425
All motherboard manufacturers are the worst according to /g/. I've seen no actual evidence to back any of it up.

>>58327499
It's true and I've seen plenty of evidence
Motherboards are the number one most failed component, and it doesn't change much by spending hundreds of dollars on it
All motherboards are chinkshit and all motherboards are bad, you just need to find the least bad one

>>58327523
Obviously having such a large number of potential points of failure motherboards are especially vulnerable. Still, the only data I can see shows Asrock have the highest RMA rate, but all manufacturers are below 3%.

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I've noticed all the smaller capacity SSD's i've looked at slow down immensely as they fill up, which seems to be further exacerbated by the fact that they are easy to fill up. Seems to be because they use fewer rather than smaller chips under the hood and try to compensate for this swindling with dynamic write/caching memes that help them along in benchmarks so they can jew? It's like extra problematic because they are easy to fill up.

Anyway, on the same site i'm using to see this information, I see larger capacity (512gb-1tb+) SSD's don't really bench all that different whether they are 10% full or 90% full, probably because they don't use these gimmicks.. My question is, are there ANY smaller capacity SSD's that don't have these annoying 'features' that just make them slow down as they fill up? Is not one manufacturer using smaller chips instead of fewer chips? Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post. Looking for an SSD is painful.

How important/difficult is cable management?

>>58327625
They mitigate the slowdown by overprovisioning, usually by 10% of the drive capacity. Obviously on a 120gb drive, 10% isn't a lot and has little effect.

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>>58327625
All SSDs use those "gimmicks" look up how nand rewriting works you dummy
Cramming a thousand 1MB modules into an SSD won't solve anything, and less, tiny chips is the way to go if you want durability

>>58327631
It gives you +100 in autism power and is required for posting in guts threads.
It also slightly improves airflow and makes things in the case easier to clean and maintain.

>>58327631
Not important
Not difficult

>>58327652
>>58327688
So it's a literal impossibility to get a smaller capacity driver that won't dramatically slow down as it fills up? Fug, I guess I have to save some more shekels then..

rate my new build pls, i already have a gtx 1080 i hope to put it together in may
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LDQbyf

>>58327729
Just buy a new drive when you're at 95%, Shirley you can expect consistent high speed, high capacity and a low price

I'm looking to get a blu-ray player and an ssd, what brands should I get?

>>58327303
>>58327347
>More unecessary ports
>unnecessary
Questionable, I actually use most of the ports and headers on my board (including the TPM header)
>A USB 3.1 port in the form of USB C maybe
Not useful enough right now
>Metal reinforced garbage
Not useful at all, it will cause the fiberglass on the board to separate over time.
>red paint
Not useful and ugly
>LEDs
Ditto
>Motherboard armor
Unless you're referring to the meme-tier Tuff boards from ASUS, those are "armor" are actually heatsinks for heat-sensitive parts like the VRMs, chipset, and auxiliary controller.

But you forgot to include
>better NIC
Intel or bust for lower CPU overhead and latency
>better audio controller
Meaningless in this day and age.
>PCIe slots
They used to put a PLX switch on higher-end motherboards, you could tell because LGA 115X CPUs only has 16 lanes of PCIe, but PLX-equipped motherboards are 3- or 4-way SLI compatible.
>more voltage regulators, power phases, etc
Better stability when overclocking, but not strictly necessary.

>>58327284
It comes with an install CD and that's it. I just installed one.

So far got everything bar the GPU which I'm waiting for a few days to buy to see if prices are influenced at all. Currently sitting at:

NZXT 340 Elite
EVGA 850W GS Gold PSU
NZXT Kraken 62X
I7 6700k
16GB Corsair 3000mhz DDR4
Asus Z170 Pro
525GB Crucial SSD
3TB Toshiba HDD

Is there anything I should change in this while I can still return things?

Any thoughts on what 1080 to go for after CES?

>>58326991
It's reporting the memory as -6GB
2^32 B - 6GB = 4PB

>>58327861
kek, he has negative memory
He literally has to pay Nvidia for memory every time he turns on his computer.

>>58327815
Okay, I guess it did have everything

>>58327758
i was just looking for consistent speeds at low capacities.

>>58327276
Where the fuck do you life with such prices?

>>58327742
Come back in May. Probably you'll want to change things up by then

>>58327631
Depends on the case, usually pretty easy if the case is built for it. If you're going windowed its mandatory

>>58327303
Sometimes better voltage management

>>58327179
Not yet. In a few months upgrade to an i7 3770K, then save up $1K for a 1440p Adaptive sync monitor + gfx card

Asus Z170 pro gaming Mobo
6700k CPU
H100i AIO CPU cooler
1080 GPU
16 GB 3000 MHz DDR4 ram
128 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
AX 760 Corsair PSU
Fractal R4 case

How did I do?

You overspent on memes and ended up with 2009 tier storage.

>>58327805
I didn't say headers I said ports
And the second half of what you said is uncited, maybe if you believe in "newer is better, Love, MSI" then sure, but we're not talking about last year mobos vs this year mobos, we're talking about Z170 vs Z270. Z270 is Z170+Optane support, nothing else.
looking at the $400 MAXIMO GAYMEN 8G AMROR CLOCKMASTER Z270 motherboards that linustechtips posted is not the same as looking at Z170 vs Z270
They're the same chipset

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>>58327974
I live in Trump's America™

>>58328413

terrible considering ryzen vega and volta are on the horizon

gg

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>>58328479
>build computer of any kind
>FUCKING RETARD WAIT FOR EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT TO GET BETTER NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT

>>58328413
>AIO
>R4 instead of R5
>Corsair PSU

>>58328498
It will be coming out in 2 days

>>58328498
Oh come on you retard, they're right around the corner.

>>58328413
>128GB SSD

>>58328589
But will they sell at MSRP in 3 days?

>>58328604
I can upgrade later, right now I just need my OS and certain editing software on it.

>>58328605
Idk man but if you'd wait a little bit more you'd get intel and nvidia cheaper. Or new AMD stuff for a good price

>>58328589
>>58328604
But saying to wait to buy the new CPU and GPU applies to literally everybody in this thread
Obviously not every single person in this thread wants a 1080ti, 490 or as of now unproven line of CPUs
The gpus aren't even applicable to people on 1080p, the majority of this thread

>>58328647

1080p is plebian as fuck and not even worth discussing

everyone here knows that

>>58328647
That's not my point.
If the new gpu come out the others will lower their prices

>>58328629
Nvidia just released a $1200 card when people were expecting it to be $800 and push prices of their $600 card down, it won't. Intel just released a new gen just as good and cheaper than their old gen.
Where are these Intel/nvidia bankrupt and finished sales I keep hearing about?
I mean the 490 is expected to be over $400, nobody is lowering prices on old, capable hardware

>>58328647
A $64 Pentium will have hyperthreading. Talk about a new budget king, depending on benchmarks

About to order my parts.
Are the vendors from PCPartPicker legit?

>>58328680
The 1080ti is 3 times more expensive than a card that is considered capable of any game on any non-4K setup
The RX 490 is expected to be over double the price of an RX480

>>58328696
490 = 400$
Gtx 1070 = 450$

Sure they won't lower the price.

Is the GA-Z170-HD3P worth buying? Anybody got any horror stories?

>>58328711
You think i'm talking about amd lowering their prices ?
R490 will be cheap why buy a 1070 if you can get a 490 ? That's my point they will lower prices and if the price range between 1070 and 1080 is going to be more than 700$ people will go for sli so they are forced to lower prices on all their cards

>>58328709
No they are going to steal your money. I mean who even heard of shit like "Amazon"? Obviously a scam.

>>58328718
Fury X = $320
980ti = $360 (the price I paid for my 1070 btw)
Both are competitive against a 1070, both are being outsold by the "new stuff", both are still fucking expensive
But I mean that's gpus, that's debatable, saying Intel will lower the prices of their old gens is just fucking ignorant

>>58328737
Please stop pretending you know anything. You have no fucking clue how much the 490 will be or if such a chard even exists.

>>58328742
Amd zen will be fucking cheap everyone will buy amd if intel wont lower their prices

What is the cleanest mid/fullsize ATX case for a non modular power supply?

>>58328752
All i'm saying is we all know AMD is cheaper and this will happen. Not sure about pricing but it wont be much

>>58328766
Are you retarded? If it competes with Intel on performance they will price them in a similar range. AMD is not "the good guy", they are not going to pass on profits to make people happy. They are a business.

>>58328739
>d-do i fit in yet?

>>58328766
I hope so
Even then I doubt Intel would lower their prices. If they lower MSRP on the chip being sold to you, they'd have to lower the price of the 1000-stacks of CPUs they ship off to pretty much every PC oem across the world, the guys who say "oh it's new Intel so people will buy it, so I support Kaby lake!"

>>58328790
>implying if they release it for a low price people won't change to AMD

Please this is the way to defeat Nvidia.

>>58328790
Are you retarded?

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>>58328783
>we know AMD is cheaper
Who knows that?
>>58328811
>if
Anybody with CPUs that compete with Intel has a pricing system to match
Intel inflated prices for PC builders and AMD is gonna ride the $400 CPU wave

>>58328811
They won't. Price isn't everything in the OEM world.
>>58328826
No just old enough to actually remember when AMD were last relevant and they did not undercut Intel just to get good buy points.

>>58328830
>who knows that ?

This conversation is over

>>58328865
No, I'm pretty sure you're a retard. There are reasons for pricing much cheaper than intel other than GBP

>>58328881
Yeah I remember all the $30 AMD CPU/mobo combos, those great deals really showed Intel huh?

>>58328830
AMD has a reputation of shitty CPUs.
Most people won't buy a new $400 AMD cpu when they can buy an Intel cpu for the same price, and with Intel, you will at least now it's good.

If they want Ryzen to succeed, it has to be just as good as intel's cpus with a lower cost.

>>58328830
I7 6700k= +1000$
AMD zen= 400$

Yeah people will choose for i7

>>58328881
>There are reasons for pricing much lower than Intel
Because it's not as good as Intel
If Intel can sell a $1600 CPU and you can make the exact same CPU, you can bet your ass they'll want to squeeze as many 1600's of dollars as they can out of the market

>>58328906
Exactly, and you can't assume that it's gonna succeed or that the pricing will be reasonable.
They're claiming to match Intel IPC with ryzen, that's insane historically. AMD is not gonna let this money grabbing chance slip past them by anchoring themselves as the "budget CPU brand" that they already are

>>58328917
Holy shit you're special.
If they'll try to squeeze 1600$ then people would rather play safe and go fir intel.
If they price it way lower then the performance/price would be too good to pass on

>>58328908
>AMDtard gets tricked nto paying $1000 for a 6700k
The 6700k that ryzen took years of work to match is about $300
The 6800k that ryzens best CPU barely matches is $400
The $1000 6900K is made to be good at both multicore and single threaded performance, ryzen (from the benchmarks seen) don't have the single thread performance to even match the $180 cpu

>>58328971
>price/performance is too good to pass on
That's been AMDs thing since athlon64, how's that working out for them?

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Hey guys, I was in the previous thread asking about video cards and such, here is my speccy.
I was just on amazon looking around and I started wondering, if I can only grab one piece at a time to upgrade my PC, which should I grab first? Also, I am on a low budget at the moment so my current idea for a build is as follows, please feel free to give suggestions.

CPU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009O7YORK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

GPU
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-RX-480-4G/dp/B01KIZUF7Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1483583856&sr=1-1&keywords=rx%2B480%2B4gb&th=1

Motherboard
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008RPZ5SC/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I can afford these, but if you have better suggestions for the same total, my eyes are open. Thanks.
Also, why does my current processor cost more than the one I posted up there?

>>58328993
Im sorry i meant 6900k have you even seen the fucking reveal ?

>>58329031
200 dollar difference is not the same as 600$ diffrence

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>>58329049
Yeah I saw fucking blender

>>58329070
Also im not amd fanboy im going for an intel cpu im just saying that amd is going all out this time

>>58329069
So is ryzen specifically going after the 6900k? Because it can't match the low end for single thread performance, and i haven't seen anything about the ryzen lineup other than "LOOK GUYS IT MATCHES A 6900K IN THIS INANE PROGRAM THAT UTILIZES 100% OF OUR CPU WERE LIKE INTEL NOW"

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Any input in general would be appreciated. This is my first time building a PC. Would at least like to run Overwatch on max.

>>58329131
Also going for a purple color scheme

>>58329115
They used 6900k as a reference. I think every company both intel and amd are trying to outdo theirselfs not eachother but fanboys can't understand this.

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>>58329131
>>58329149
(you)
Also my budget is 1000

>>58329131
Buy a locked cpu and a cheaper non oc mobo. Invest in 480 8gig
Upgrade later for locked cpu the stock cooler is enough use the money you saved on cooler to buy a SSD. This way you'll only need around 500W psu. Use the cash you save on that to buy 2TB HDD. There you go you're settled for the next 3 to 5 years for AAA games

>>58329151
AMD is clearly trying to say that they are a serious competitor to Intel with ryzen, nobody would be impressed that they're outdoing themselves, as they have every generation and failed to match Intel every time, cementing themselves as the "other" option
They are going after Intel with ryzen, there is absolutely no doubt about that

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Once in a lifetime thing came along and dumped enough money in my lap that I wasn't supposed to spend on anything 'boring' or 'practical' but instead was supposed to spend on something I 'wanted' that would make up for months of my life being shit.

I ordered all of this. How did I do, /g/?

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Quick, what's the most cost effective hard drive in terms of storage space, taking into account reliability?

>>58329186
Get windows alternate for 30$
Dont forget to include price for mouse, keyboard, headset, monitor

>>58329151
Because they didn't have a thousand failed CPUs to test it against
Notice how the don't mention the performance compared to a 8350 or such even once, even when comparing it to a Intel core series?

>>58329241
Could you recommend a mobo? That's the only reasonably priced one i could find. Graphics is a pain too, but I have a few I was thinking about.

>>58329241
Also go on pc partpicker.com
You can see if the parts are compatible

I recommend MSI PC MATE its very cheap and the i5 6500 you'll do perfect in gaming. Cpu wont make much of a difference for games

>>58329309
MSI B150 GAMING M3 is really nice PC MATE SERIE is cheaper tho
Also you may want to go for a 1060 (quiet and cool) BUT rx480 is cheaper

>>58329260
Get a better cooler.

Is there a difference between the 480 Gaming X and the 480 Armor? I would prefer the Armor because the red/black ruins my aesthetic

>>58329131
Don't buy from MSI

>>58329036
Unfortunately, I don't think that your current board supports FX CPUS
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4N68TM_V2/HelpDesk_CPU/
Your best bet is to hold off for a minute on the CPU and check the benchmarks for the G4560
http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz
You can get a new mobo+RAM+that CPU for about $150 or so that will be equivalent to the FX 6300 in games.

..Holy shit, I see that you're suggesting buying a new board for that FX 6300. Fuck. No.

>>58329131
Drop to 650W PSU at most. For your use a 500W is plenty
Get 240GB SSD
Consider an i3 6100 or an i5 6500 with stock cooler
If you get a locked CPU you can get a B150 or H110
If you keep the Z170 get 3000MHz RAM
Buy an RX470

>>58329260
Not bad

>>58329264
HGST 2TB 7200RPM, newegg $50

>>58329392
Thanks

>>58329371
I think the armor version does not have a backplate

>>58329131
>RX460
>no cooler
>700 fucking watt for this shit
>no SSD
>NZXT
>LED
>absolutely shit H60 cooler
>minimum Z170 mobo
>2133 RAM
Absolutely disgusting.

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>>58329369
Already ordered that one, but I will eventually once I feel the need to OC. I don't think I will need to OC for a while yet, so I went with a cheaper cooler so I could afford a better SSD. Eventually I would like to get a Noctua cooler.

>>58329241
>>58329276
>>58329319
>>58329357
>>58329392
You and i /g/ent are the same.
I sti think he would be better off getting a rx480

>>58329428
This is his first time. Cut him some slack and leave the fag alone. He came hete for help

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Daily reminder that AMD said the 490 is for 4K in the same way that the 470 is for 1440p

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>>58329703
Your containment thread is here >>58329363

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>>58329778
I just looked it up, it's true, I'm concerned about it myself that they're calling the RX series "1080p/60fps capable" and the 470 a "1440p card"
What can that mean for the 490 as a "4K card"? Werent rumors already putting around a 1070/1080 level? Those are barely 4K cards themselves
The vomit-senpai is bait, the reminder is not. How do AMD look at their own cards in terms of capability?

Some beta with a custom built PC gave it to my cousin's GF as a gift and now he wants to sell it to me for $600.
Specs that I know of:
16GB RAM
Crossfire AMD Radeon R9 380 with only 2GB memory each.
amd fx-8320 @ 3.5ghz

Worth? It has water cooling in it. I figure I might swap some parts and sell the rest but I don't want to get raped because of craigslist either.

>>58329890
My OC'd 470 runs Mad Max at Ultra at 1440p VSR 60FPS locked, but I haven't seen AMD calling it a 1440p card. It definitely can run lots of games at 1440p if you turn down the settings.

Not like I'd suggest it to go with a nice 1440p monitor.

>>58329916
Ehh, I got an FX 6350 + CF 280x + ssd + 12GB of RAM for $550 over a year and a half ago, so no, I don't think it's a good deal. I'd say 400 is about right

>>58329392
>Unfortunately, I don't think that your current board supports FX CPUS
>https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4N68TM_V2/HelpDesk_CPU/
>Your best bet is to hold off for a minute on the CPU and check the benchmarks for the G4560
>http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz
>You can get a new mobo+RAM+that CPU for about $150 or so that will be equivalent to the FX 6300 in games.
>..Holy shit, I see that you're suggesting buying a new board for that FX 6300. Fuck. No.
What about the GPU? Is a 750Ti pretty much the best I can get with my current CPU? Or would a 470 be good without a massive bottleneck? Thanks for your input, I guess I will finally crossover to intel when that CPU launches, unless I find another intel cpu before then.

>>58330037
>Is a 750Ti pretty much the best I can get with my current CPU?
Yeah, they're about matched. Don't forget to check out Zen/Ryzen if you want to get something better than that Pentium

>>58328790
No, they pass on the profit to grab up market share. That's how business works.

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Updated. Input is appreciated. If you think a part is shit or something, please recommend something near it's price.
>am i missing anything
i obviously know little about computers.

>>58330199
Jesus Christ, who the fuck suggested an FX6300? It's shit on a dead socket. AMD themselves is about to make it obsolete with the launch of Zen.

Get an i3 6100 or i5 6500 + B150

The RAM you have doesn't even work with the AMD CPU

>>58330126
Thank you for your input.

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>>58330306
Is this better? Is everything compatible?

If I'm not necessarily in any rush, should I wait a month or so to see how ryzen, Vega etc look?

>>58330493
You don't need that CPU cooler for a locked processor, and you should definitely get a cheaper motherboard (SLI plus and you're buying an RX 480? wtf). The keyboard and mouse are dumb as fuck and you shouldn't bother paying for Windows, especially Windows 10. I'm not going to comment on the LED shit

>>58330565
Yes

>>58330635
I was very iffy with the mobo. If you could recommend one I would be eternally grateful. That's the one part that consistently fucks with me in terms of compatibility etc
I can't remove the purple LED shit as I'm making it for my friend and he said that was a must.
>cpu cooler removed

>>58330742
I don't know much about this socket and range of chipsets in particular but I would just look for one with the same socket that's around $80 or so. I briefly looked on Amazon and there seemed to be some good ones. They're really all the same so just pick whichever one is on sale or has the best reviews

>>58330742
>>58330635
And he said he needed Windows 10. I use W7 on my current build because I'm too lazy to deal with Linux.

>>58330771
Aight. Thanks for the input my dude.

Hey, I'm not really a great technophile, but I really need a new computer, so I started searching for gaming pc's in my area for sale, I was just checking if someone could look over the specs for me and see if it is worth buying?

>>58330820
Looks great br0

>>58330778
You can get Windows 10 home for free from Microsoft (unactivated but fully functional, there's a small watermark and you can't change the taskbar color)
Or you can do the same thing but activate a home/pro edition with a cheap activation key from kinguin or such

>>58330825
PC Case- Corsair 780T Graphite Series with LED Fan - Black/Red

Motherboard: Asus Z170-DELUXE Motherboards

CPU: Intel Core i7 6700K Processor (4 GHz, 4 Core, 8 Threads, 8 MB cache, LGA1151 )

GPU:Asus STRIX-GTX980 256 Bit Nvidia Gtx 980 Graphics Card (4GB, GDDR5, Dual Link, PCI Express)

RAM:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) -Black

PSU:Corsair RM850i ATX/EPS Fully Modular 80 PLUS Gold 850 W Power Supply Unit

PC Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H100i GTX 240mm

SSD: Samsung 2.5 inch 250 GB 850 EVO

HDD: WD 1 TB (7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s 64 MB Cache) - 3.5 inch, Black

SoundCard: Creative Sound Blaster Z PCIe Gaming Sound Card with High-Performance Headphone Amplifier and Beamforming Microphone

>>58330834
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it.

>>58330851
How much is that? You really don't need an 850W PSU.

>>58330851
That's bretty good, but it's probably expensive. Buy it if you can afford it.

>>58330904
>>58330893
It is £1600, but the guy is open to offers as well

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009728&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0
Quick, i need a new monitor, and recently got a 1070. Should i drop 230 for this?

>>58330923
Build your own instead.

>>58330950
>Refresh rate: 60hz
DROPPED
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>>58330923
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MmVjvV

It's reasonable, factoring in the OS and labour you're getting a good deal.
If the PSU doesn't have some eco mode then you're going to be burning through money on the electricity bill.

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>>58326214
Just got most my parts in, waiting on my 1070 and p400s case now boys

Should I upgrade my 2500K and my HD7950
It doesn't feel as competitive anymore but after overclocking I can still run most modern things on high 1080p, with the exception of Forza Horizon 3. It doesn't feel like the 480/1060/Kaby Lake will be that much of an upgrade in comparison.

>>58331059

>i5
>gigabyte mobo
>only 550w psu
>air cooling

you could have done better

>>58331048
After checking, it does have an eco mode!

>>58331076
I could have also gone
>64gb of ram
>x99 board
>i7 6950x
>quad titan xps
But you gotta draw the line somewhere desu

>enough people buy Falcon-NW computers that they are still in business

Boggles my mind

>>58328729
>>58328729
>>58328729
Anyone?

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I’m not sure if this is where I should post this, but here it goes.

I want to build a gaming PC. I’m tired of the shit console gaming, and I’m ready to finally move out of this scene. Problem is, I don’t really know a lot about actually building a PC or what parts are good. I would want to get a high-end PC, which I know would be pretty expensive, but I think it’ll be worth it to not have to be on console ever again. Any advice on where to go to figure this out, or what to avoid?

>>58331129
I just bought one. Give me a couple weeks and I'll tell you.
>>58331059

im going to convert my ps3 into a linux box any other suggestions on what to run on it besides a firewall, dhcp, and dns-bind

>>58331153
Lurk here and learn for yourself.
If you have any more stupid questions go to the stupid question general
Around 20 people exactly like you come to this general every day.

>>58331153
Your PC will become outdated eventually

Even if you bought a Titan in a few years it will be obsolete, whilst people today will still be using their Xbox 1s

>>58331182
I apologize for the inconvenience, I know you guys probably get this a lot, I just wasn't exactly sure where to go. A lot of this stuff seems up to a matter of opinion, so I wasn't sure on relying on somebody in a store who may or may not know what they're talking about.

This is my current build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8q6CCy

What are your thoughts?

>>58331223
Don't rely on people in stores because 90% of the time they have no fucking clue and 100% of the time they're trying to screw you out of your hard earned neetbux
Like I said just lurk here and learn, and go to /sqg/ if you have any pressing questions

>>58331223
Google logical increments

>>58326214
not sure if you guys get asked this regularly, but what do you suggest for a chair? I'm willing to spend ~$1k. Been looking at the Herman Miller Embody but I have no clue if it stands up to the reviews and price. Thoughts?

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I have a grand saved up, should I continue to save or go all out and buy something soon? Mostly for gaming.

>>58331305
Wrong general
>>58331312
Save more desu. You probably want 1200ish if you're american, or 1600ish if you're not.

>>58331312
>mostly for gaming
Continue to save, you want to spend $12-300 on a high end build.

>>58331364
you're not getting a GTX 1080/Titan build for $1300 goofy

>>58331412
i5/7 + 1070 can be had for $1300.

>>58331348
what's the right general? /chair general/? /cg/?

>>58331454
how does the original 920 i7 compare to newer versions?

>>58331496
>920

if you're still meme'ing on LGA1366 just get a X5650

Could OCing your CPU fuck up your Motherboard or CPU or could I just mess around with settings freely since it would apparently fail to bootup?

Also can I OC a i3 6100 or G4400 on GA-Z170-HD3P?

And is this RAM good? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UFF7Y72/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>58331412
Yeah, a $1200 computer is a definitive step above a $1000 computer for gaymen
But that implies getting a bomb ass expensive monitor for your 1070 as well

>>58331514
LGA1366 is my jam. why do you suggest what you suggest? is a more expensive upgrade not worth it?

>>58330742
>mobo
Look at the pcpartpicker links in the OP.

>>58331048
>you're going to be burning through money on the electricity bill.
The fuck? It's only going to draw whatever his system pulls. It can supply up to the maximum capacity

>>58331059
Can't see your mobo, if it's a Z170 for your CPU, you should have gotten 3000MHz RAM

>>58331062
Wait

>>58331129
newegg reviews. If it's near 4 stars with lots of reviews, it's good.

>>58331265
You have all that, or you're asking for advice? Just post a speccy if you already have it

>>58331312
Do you have anything now? If you do, just wait and save. At least wait until Kaby Lake and Zen are on the market.

If you're considering 1440p you need to save more anyway. 1080p you have plenty saved up

>>58331496
Not that well

>>58331518
RAM is fine

You can break your components when OC'ing. Not sure how easy it is to do

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I'm about to do my very first build. Spent the last 2 days reading and making sure I know what to do, but I'm still nervous. I've been reading horror stories of PSUs and components catching on fire. I live in student housing with a sprinkler right above me, so if it set them off, my entire rig would probably be toast. Do you suppose I should build it in a more open area? Any common noob mistakes I should be advised about?

>>58331553
take a look

http://ark.intel.com/compare/37147,47922

The X5650 is like $50 on ebay senpai

>>58331577
>>58331584
I'm looking to do a new build, what do you suggest? I'm expecting to pay ~$2k without monitor.

>>58331582
mobo. standoffs.

>>58331602
What are you using it for?

>>58331582
Stick with SeaSonic, SuperFlower and SilverStone for PSUs. The rest are rebrands.

>>58331604
Yeah I do know about that one and how it can kill a board. My case (corsair 200r) apparently comes with pre-installed standoffs that should match my mobo precisely (z170a)

>>58331483
probably battlestation general is a good place to look

>>58331621
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sQbp99/seasonic-power-supply-ss650km
This is the one I got. I'm hoping it'll be fine, I've been reading about a lot of people receiving defective models

>>58331618
I don't know how to quantify that. I'm not a gamer but I like to have that option open if something 'good' ever gets released. I do a lot of multitasking, if you can call it that. Seems like the 920 does a good job however I could definitely use a ram upgrade.

>>58331638
If you're just shitposting and watching movies, no real reason to upgrade from a 920. 12GB of RAM is fine. If you needed more (for instance, multiple VMs), you'd know.

If you don't have an SSD you want that for sure.

>>58331635
That one's fine it has a high score on johnnyguru.

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>mfw paying MicroCenter $100 to build my computer because I'm worried I'll break something while building

whom /beta male/ here?

>>58331690
The possibility of playing games makes me think an upgrade is warranted, however the majority of my time is spent watching media, programming or browsing the internet. I only have 6GB of RAM currently and it gets 80-90% depleted by Firefox, so is 12 enough or is 16 preferable?

>>58331717
Literally why? There's nothing you can fuck up unless you're doing custom water.

>RAM
Make sure the tab lines up and then push it in until it clicks
>GPU
Literally the same thing but you don't even have to worry about lining up a slot
>CPU
Literally just fucking drop it in so the arrows line up
>Heatsink
Push four pins into holes, fucking wow
>Everything else
Connect the cord that fits to the socket that fits until everything works

>>58331742
12 if you have DDR4 so you can 4x4 quadchannel, otherwise 16 for 2x8 dual channel

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>Spend $900 on a new PC
>End up just playing Doom 2 because all the new games are boring

>>58331744
I bought a Titan and it's my first building, I'm just a beta male and scared I'll drop it or shock it or something

>>58326214
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pK3h2R
Rate pls. I'd go kabylake but Z270 boards only support Windows 10.

>>58331717

dude... just.. god damnit man.

did you even try?

its fucking adult legos

>>58331717
How much does your rig cost? I suggest you save some more to replace(potentially) broken parts.
Then you can use this money to buy a lot of beer to celebrate a successful build.

>>58331753
I upgraded so long ago I think I'm on DDR2 still. How can I determine whether it's 2 or 3?

>>58331717
You didn't even use whom correctly, faggot

>>58331742
12GB is plenty. No reason not to upgrade if you have the money though. Better performance in games and a lot more efficient than your current 130W CPU. You should probably come back in a week and ask about upcoming CPUs

>>58331799
It's 2

Last part comes in tomorrow. I have no anti-static equipment. From what I've read, this should suffice to prevent ESD damage:
>attach PSU to case and ensure it's off
>plug PSU into power strip connected to outlet, PSU still off
>touch case of PSU when handling parts
Anything else? My floor is carpet so I'll also be wearing shoes.

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>>58326214
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Herplooza/saved/rfH3CJ

I made this, should I build and get the htc vive with it?

>>58331849
how do you know?

>>58331849
what CPU is being released that I should look for? I've allotted ~$500 for a processor when I upgrade.

>>58331862
as long as your plug has an earthing pin, you should be fine mate. If at all possible it's probably a good idea to do it while standing on tiles though.

>>58331891
i7 - 7700k

>>58331891
AMD's Ryzen line, and Intel's 7th generation chipset, specifically the 7700k.

>>58331790
about $2800, I'm using MicroCenter to absolve myself of liability in case something gets fucked up

>>58331910
>>58331914
is it worth the purchase? I can't find an accurate price - $126 according to a google search which doesn't seem appropriate.

>>58326381
Don't buy windows

>>58331956
you gotta wait for the chip to release
and for compatible motherboards to release (z270)
personally I'd just get a 6700k, that will be good enough for a while yet

>>58331891
http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI
Actually it's 3

>>58331956
It's going to be around $340 at launch, possibly higher. Jayztwoshills got his OCD to 5 GHz.

>>58332002
whom does he shill for? watched his vid on RyZen last nite

>>58332018
Cooler Master, EVGA, MSI and others.

>>58331953
Ok, dude. I won't judge, but maybe you should shoot for something a bit lower for the first time.
You're missing a part of the fun if you aren't building your rig by yourself.

>>58332002
air or water cooling? speaking of which, what water cooler do you suggest?

>>58331305
I haven't sat in the Embody but the Aeron is really good. I've sat in one at work for the past three years, never felt uncomfortable, sore, or anything like that. I even bought one for home a few months ago.

>>58332087
I've seen an Aeron go for $300 but Embodys insist on $900+. I don't know where to side with that big of a disparity.

>>58332062
He had his on a H100i, but I'd recommend getting a large Air cooler rather than a AIO. They're more cost effective and quieter.

Rate my monitor choice, going to be playing Counter strike a lot, so mainly want 144hz.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/GbNp99/benq-monitor-xl2411z

>>58332099
quieter than water cooling? are you trolling

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Have I made any glaring errors yet?

>>58332116
AIO pumps are fucking loud. They sound like a fish tank. And no I'm not, Noctua's NH-D15 will be quieter than any AIO.

>>58332134
what's the alternative to an AIO? will air cooled compare in terms of performance?

sorry for the noob questions, I've been out of the "hardware game" for many years.

>>58332098
I paid $300 for mine - some dude had a side job repairing used ones and selling them for pretty cheap. I think they're more common so you're more likely find deals like that.

According to some guy you can try out the Embody for a year and send it back if you don't like it: https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Embody-better-than-the-Aeron

>>58332156
Any decently sized air cooler will do the trick. I'd recommend the U14s or NH-D15 from Noctua, or Be Quiet!'s Dark Rock Pro 3. The Cryorig R1 Ultimate is a good choice as well.

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>>58331759
The new doom has classic maps in glorious HD

>>58332162
thanks very much for the link. I haven't found something similar in my search.

the aeron looks "shittier" than the embody, but I have no reference point from which to judge.

>>58331108
>tfw bought a Falcon-NW cuz I got racks

u mad ?

>>58332191
are you just biased against water cooling? I've always heard such good things. not trying to be an asshole in asking.

>>58332214
No, it's just that air cooling provides just as good performance for cheaper. AIOs are mostly for aesthetics.

>>58332243
danke, I appreciate the advice.

>>58332296
Also aircoolers last longer and generally quieter than cheap aios since there's no pump noise and usually quality fans

>>58332306
just goes to show what marketing does to a person. I always assumed water cooling was better.

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>>58332214
Higher end air cooling is on par with AIOs, occasionally even beating them.
One biggest advantage of air is the noise.
All Noctuas are practically silent, I can't even hear my computer when it's on.
Kraken X61 sounds like a jet engine, even when the RPMs are relatively low.

>>58332321
It could be but cheap aios don't have great performance, and a dual-fan aircooler has the same maximum cooling as a 240mm standard thickness radiator, so unless you're doing a custom loop with GPU cooling and a large or maybe two radiators, air cooling will be easier, lower maintenance and just as good, plus cheaper

>>58332335
wow. this changes everything I knew about cooling sound.

thank you.

>>58332321
It is, in some cases.
But in mostly for the tightly-packed high-heat systems, something like a Quad-SLI TitanX-es.
It's either that or noisy turbines in this case.

>>58332357
I thought everyone knew that air cooling was whisper quiet when you spend money on nice fans. I'd still say get an aio if you have a pc case with a window. They look much better than a massive heatspreader with fans and they allow you to see the rest of the mobo and your ram. I'd post my guts but this board is now so gay the image is now too big when it wasn't before

Tfw my post was ignored ;_;

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SCENARIO:

My Motherboard chipset needs a BIOS update before I can install my CPU. I also want to load a USB flash of Windows 7 to my new PC. The order I should tackle this is:

>install BIOS from USB to Motherboard
>install CPU
>install Windows 7 from my other USB

correct?

>>58332975
mine too. here's a (you)

>>58332121
Size of the case?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yN8fVY
rate my list anons

I don't want to use PCPartPicker so here goes, r8 my gaming rig. I also want to know if my PSU is shitty or if it is acceptable based on how low wattage my system actually is. Also wanting to know what kind of OC I should go for on the CPU if any.

This system is meant for gaming at 2560 x 1080 resolutions at 60Hz

MSI GTX 1080
Intel i5-6600K
Deepcool Captian 240X Cooler
Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3 Mobo
EVGA 750B 80+ Bronze PSU
G.Skill Aegis 16GB DDR4 RAM (2x8GB)
HGST 7.2K RPM 3TB HDD
Kingston HyperX 120GB SSD
NZXT S340 Mid-Tower Case
Some shitty external DVD RW drive

>>58333108
Get 240GB SSD and GTX1070
650W is plenty, can get away with 500

>>58333103
Try to save up for an SSD and an RX470.

>>58333170
Agreed on the SSD, I already own this build, so why should I down grade to a 1070? I know it seems a little overkill for that resolution but I'm also wanting to be somewhat futureproof

>>58333224
>I already own this build
This thread isn't a specs thread. It's for people picking parts for PCs

>>58333224
There's that word again
(((futureproof)))

>>58326214
Looking at:
i5 6400
GTX 1050Ti
ASRock Z170 Pro4s
8Gb DDR4

Buying parts in Japan will be building and using in Ausfailia.

Harvesting HDDs from existing desktop at home but may get another for redundancy since they're pretty old. Would a 650W PSU be fine? Should I get a cooler or just stick with stock? I was a bit concerned about heat in my old desktop in summer but as I'm not OCing and everything is more efficient than my current build it may not be necessary.

>>58333224
A 1080 is way too much for 60hz anything except 4k. The people who get a gpu that can outrun their monitor don't make any sense
>>58333292
I really think you could get away with an i3 if you are looking at a 1050ti. Can't be bothered to check myself because I have an i5 and a 980ti. Don't have a need for an i7

>>58333068
A (you) for you too

>>58333093
>Carbide Series® 200R Compact ATX Case

>>58333337
My main concern about i3s is if I upgrade the GPU down the line I may run into bottlenecking though. Is that not really an issue these days?

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who else buying 2 vega gpu's on release date

>>58333385
I saw eurogamer benchmark video that had i3 doing 1080 60 max witcher 3 with a titan x

I assume they had the retarded hair stuff turned off but still

>>58333093
497mm x 210mm x 430mm, atx

>>58333385
I think it will only be a problem if you get a monitor with a refresh rate greater than 60hz

>>58333518
I've got an IPS as my main monitor so I guess I"m good. Saves me another $40 or so. Thanks.

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>>58333394
Literally nobody

what model of studio monitors do you guys use?

>>58333740
what is a studio monitor? I use an x34

>>58333740
Mackie MR5s, previously Yamaha HS7's

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>>58333789
as in the speakers. i'm probably gonna buy these, just wondering if there are better options under $300.

my room is untreated so quality will only go so far.

>>58333801
thanks, i'll look into them

>>58333812
i found the LSR305's on sale slightly used for 200$ so I nabbed a pair.

>>58329890
1080 runs 4k.

Does corsair still make cases that only fit corsair psus

>>58329966
Not the newer games. Believe me rx480 runs newer ganes 50 fps to 60fps

Tfw my friends are making fun of my new i3

>>58334126
Yeah the 1050 runs 4K too, doesn't mean it's a "4K card"
I mean I guess the 1080 is a 4K card if the fucking 470 can be called a 1440p card

>>58330199
>>58329357
>>58329319
>>58329276
>>58329241
Read my shit please.
Also buy a cheaper reliable keyboard like sharkoon skiller it has adjustable rgb leds (purple).
And buy an ASUS ROG STRIX 8gig rx480. Rx480 are known for becoming hot. ASUS ROG STRIX is one of the coldest rx480 with adjustable purple led.

if rx 470 4GB and gtx 1060 3GB cost the same which is better buy?

Patiently waiting for the "nice video game consoles" dude
Thread's nearly over man cmon dont let me down

>>58330493
Do as i say or you're going to kys as soon as you learn more about pc.
First of all if he is going to play a lot of games you must get a 480GB SSD with 2TB HDD. If he is not going to game then 120GB SSD and 1TB is more than enough already.
Buy an ASUS ROG STRIX RX480.
Buy a MSI PC MATE SERIES mobo.
Stock cooler is enough so remove the aftermarket cooler.
Sharkoon skiller.

>>58331621
What about corsair ? I know people who say it does the job and works good. Overpriced tho

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Newfag here, are any of these builds any good?

https://elitegamingcomputers.com/top-gaming-computers/#22

>>58332002
Boohoo he gets stuff for free so he is a shill. You're pathetic

>>58326472
Im probably going to get the gtx1070. Ive been thinking to buy OCZ Trion 150 SSD is it any good ? Should i get samsung evo ?IF i go for gtx 1060 how would it run on a 1080p 75HZ monitor ?

>>58334417
OCZ used to be shit, but since toshiba took them over they've been decent budget SSDs. A much better deal than a 850 evo. I think you should get a bigger SSD like 250 or 480 GB because bigger SSDs perform better and last longer
A 1060 6GB should hold up 1080p 75Hz, maybe not totally maxed but on high settings for sure, probably still maxed on many games though

>>58334468
No no no no. Gtx 1060 would easily run at ultra. Also isn't it better to upgrade SSD later ? It's not much to upgrade right? If i buy the 1070 later (for maybe 400$ idk) then i would've spent 700$ on gpu's. If i upgrade SSD later then i pay at max 120$(w/o prices deflating) more on SSD(480GB) and maybe 50$ on the HDD if the prices don't deflate.

If the prices do deflate nicely then i would upgrade HDD 2 TB extra.

>>58334547
A gtx1060 will not run any current AAA games in ultra on a 1080p screen and not drop below 60fps.

>>58334579
55fps to 60fps it will i can't really tell the difference. DOOM 90fps easily. Gta V easy over 60fps. Witcher 3 60fps. Not sure about FF 15

>>58334605
Doom could get 90fps on a laptop

>>58334547
1060 runs ultra 1080p, but keeping a consistent 75Hz is the tough part, I wouldn't trust it past 60fps
And I said you should get a bigger SSD, not to follow your plan involving a bigger SSD

>>58334644
Unless of course you use high settings instead of max, that should EASILY net you 75fps

>>58334644
Im either going to get 120GB or 480GB (250gb is only 20$ less than 480)i'm really just not sure. With the games i have now and all the files i fill 470GB would 1TB and 480 be enough? Or 2TB with 120GB. Imo i think SSD is a little bit unnecessary i just want to use it for windows and maybe 2 or 3 games.

>>58334699
>I'm just gonna use it for windows
I hate when people say that, it's 480 GB and a dozen times as fast as the alternative drive, you should fill that up (not 100%, but fill it up) with anything you want to load quickly
If you want a boot drive then buy a shitty 32GB msata SSD for $10 or something

>>58334699
>SSD is a little bit unecessary
I can tell you've never used one, just drop the day's worth of minimum wage on an SSD and realize there can be no modern desktop computer without one
Don't just assume that SSDs were made up as a joke on /g/ last year because they're popular

Guys I currently don't have a desktop. Should I just build one with a second hand ivy bridge i5 and OC it (paired with an Rx 480) or should I opt for an i5 6500 (which can't be OC'ed and mobo and ddr4 ram also costs more.)

Basically the most intensive game would be gta V at 1080p. Preferably around 60fps. By opting for the older 3570k I would save a lot of money.

>>58334732
I don't really care if i load a game somewhat faster im inly using it for windows AND a couple of games.
>>58334761
You're right i have not

Both of you: i think im going to wait another 6/8 months for prices to lower on components then i'll buy gtx 1070 with 2 TB and 480SSD

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nice video game consoles :^)