/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Is there really any reason to use Linux in 2016/2017? It doesn't even have good wifi support.

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>>58214437
Freedom.

>>58214475
I'm not interested in your religion though.

>>58214510
>freedom is a religion
>t. proprietary toddler

I got these 2 semi-old computers pretty cheap with Pentium D processors, and they apparently came with "Windows 7 ETSE" and an ubuntu derivate alled "so.xug" .
Anyone ever heard of this so.xug thing before ? from what i found in google its used in universities but i have no idea if its any good

>>58214437
>Is there really any reason to use Linux
yes, linux isn't effected by the year

>>58214542
What you call "freedom" certainly is a religion.
>>58214568
Linux is trash though and doesn't have good support for basic features like wifi. Also it has terrible sound.

>>58214437
>It doesn't even have good wifi support.
It does.
- posted from Linux over wifi

>>58214588
Yeah, maybe after you've spent a few days configuring it. And even then it drops every few hours or so. Great support.

>>58214579
>Linux is trash though
>wifi.
>terrible sound.
what does that have to do with 2016/2017?

>>58214579
>every linux install i made in my life
>graphics, wifi and ethernet work out of the box
>every windows install i made
>have to google the motherboard on a second computer to get ethernet, wifi, videocard and audio drivers

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Stop shitposting, faggots. Be friendly and useful or fuck off.

Reminder to try out some of these distros:
> Void
> Gentoo
> Funtoo
> Exherbo
> Slackware
> CRUX
> NixOS
> GuixSD
> Devuan
> stali
> LFS

>>58214608
The probability of it being even slightly better in 2016+x are a lot higher.
>>58214619
things that never happened the post

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>>58214626
kek

>>58214623
aww, did your problem not get solved?
ending your life would fix your parents' problem.

>>58214626
>no archpleb shite
good. i approve.

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>>58214644

>>58214579
>t. tech illiterate retard
Then how come 80% of the market of smartphones are linux?

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>>58214475
>>58214644
>>58214686
calle master race

>>58214579
>What you call "freedom" certainly is a religion.
Let's investigate it futher.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion
Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence"
None of those apply to linux or fs.

> Different religions may or may not contain various elements, ranging from the "divine",[2] "sacred things",[3] "faith",[4] a "supernatural being or supernatural beings"[5] or "some sort of ultimacy and transcendence that will provide norms and power for the rest of life."[6]
Not applicable either.

Let's see another article, that is referenced at the beginning of the former.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy
>Philosophy (from Greek φιλοσοφία, philosophia, literally "love of wisdom"[1][2][3][4]) is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.
That's more applicable.

>t. proprietary toddler

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>>58214686

>>58214626
>>LFS
Not a distro. It's a book.

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>>58214707

>>58214701
Wow. Didn't know Apple's based iOS runs linux.

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what's witth all the calle?

>>58214717
Nah, not interested in your freetard cultist crap.
>wikipedia
Stopped reading right there.

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>>58214761
It's a mystery.

>>58214718
>>58214735
>>58214761
>>58214773
>proprietary captcha
nice try, M$ shill

>>58214764
>Nah, not interested in your freetard cultist crap.
>t. proprietary toddler

>Stopped reading right there.
Pick any dictionary or encyclopedia you want. The result will be the same.

Proprietaries fags in full damage control.

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>>58214789
>not using the javascript free version

>>58214800
I'm not interested in your religious crap though

If I have devices disabled in the BIOS and install a distro, will that distro see and install drivers during installation for them?

IE, webcam, microphone

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>>58214751
>Thinking apple owns the smartphone market
Confirmed retarded burger

>>58214812
>using the "free"tard version
>not using the based proprietary version

>>58214836
This chart is obviously fake and/or exaggerated. I'm not american though, nice try, racist fuck.

>>58214816
>t. proprietary toddle

Proprietary fags at full damage control.

>>58214854
Fine, post an "objective" source then retarded fuck

>>58214830
No. I recomend you disable your webcam and microphone on a hardware level

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Is there something like `lsmod' that prints all available modules?

>>58214878
You claimed apple doesn't own the market, you provide evidence to back up this retarded assertion.

>>58214895
yes, do sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/mem

>>58214901
I already did you mongoloid if you can't provide a source that says otherwise then fuck off

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>>58214901
Apple doesn't own any market. OSX is actually good for nothing, there is a dedicated thread for that

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>>58214895

find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name '*.ko' | sed 's/.*\/\(.*\)\.ko/\1/' | sort

>>58214938
You didn't. Your provided a fake source and have yet to provide evidence to back up your claim.
>>58214944
OS X is worse than windows, yes. But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about iOS

>>58214959
>iOS
Comes with shitty """"phones"""". I'm not interested in phones at all but iPhones are trash if you ask me

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>>58214953
Perfect, ty.

>>58214901
Actually not. You claimed Apple does own the market. you have to provide evidence.
But since you are a mac toddler, here it goes:

https://www.idc.com/promo/smartphone-market-share/os

>>58214926
>cat /dev/zero > /dev/mem
Useless use of cat. Learn2cli.

I throw qurans into the volcano near my home so it will convert to islam and blow itself up; killing everyone nearby ,including myself.

What distro should I install?

>>58214959
>IDC
>fake source
Kill yourself retard believe whatever you want not gonna spoon feed you If you aren't capable of research.

>>58215020
bad post

>>58214985
iphone is literally the best.
>>58214995
I haven't though. You claimed the opposite.
>an obviously biased site
yeah, might have posted the android website itself.

>>58215020
Some edgy >>>/pol/ distro.

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>>58215041
>iphone is literally the best.
I wonder how Apple is allowed to milk money off poor tech inept userbase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXbrnJ6l4A

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>>58215034
>>58215050
are you is-llamaphobic or an Arch user?

>>58215041
>>an obviously biased site
>t. apple toddler
She doesn't know you are not supposed to trust the source, that is actually good for that matter, but instead read the research and try to find flaws in the method and axioms.

>>>/pol/
>>>/b/

>>58215020
moebuntu

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>>58215081
No I am an alt right uncucked white virgin that restores white justice with the power of my sucidial fuhrer

>>58215097
its a little too cute for me. maybe PonyOS?

>>58215079
I don't buy them every time though. Apple is the best, android is still pretty good though.
>>58215092
You posted a shitty source and got the appropriate response. Now find a good source that support your claim or fuck off. You will have to fuck off since you are lying.
>b
>pol
Huh? What did you even mean by this?

hello /g/entlemen. i need a distro recommend for my 8yo lenovo laptop. it has 120gb ssd, 4gb ram. i have been looking for lightweight distros but my searches doesn't satisfy me. what's your recommendations?

i'm little into gnu/linux. used ubuntu 10.04, and debian that i cannot remember which version it had.

>>58215113
KDE Shill,

You are on too many levels of satire for me
Anonymous.

>>58215143
Try Linux Lite

>>58215136
Did you like the video?
I got more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkbxzilVC4

>>58215152
>Linux Lite
did you even try it yourself?

>>58215136
>You posted a shitty source and got the appropriate response.
your opinion on the source is irrelevant. Check the methodology, basic assumptions and try to find a flaw.

>t. apple toddler
>apple toddler in full damage control

>>58215181
Sorry, I don't watch TV shit since I'm not retarded like you.
>>58215184
It's not an opinion. The source is biased and can't be trusted to provide accurate information of Apple and their technology.

>>58215183
Yes, It's actually pretty polished as opposed to you might think. I suggest people to try Linux Lite as well

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>>58215218
Judging by your response time I think you are watching them.

How does it feel to be a retarded sheep?

>>58215181
>1:12
lmao. as expected

>>58215152
>Linux Lite
>not GNU/Linux Lite
dropped

>>58215218
>It's not an opinion. The source is biased and can't be trusted to provide accurate information of Apple and their technology.
Kek. Not understanding what methodology and basic assumptions are.

>t. apple toddler

It's actually a nice source btw.

>>58215252
Have fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C0dJOrBHzY

>>58215265
Sorry

>>58215248
I don't watch TV shit.
What's this webm supposed to "prove" though? A kid is crying near something which appears to be Apple Tech. So?
>>58215270
It's a shit source which is biased towards Android. Now fuck off or provide good sources.
>>58215278
I don't watch TV shit as I've said earlier.

>>58215278
Stop posting this bullshit here when people are trying to have a discussion. Or provide relevant sources yourself. You really shouldn't be posting this here.

What's the equivalent of ccleaner for Linux? Or at least a way to clean all cache

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>>58215288
It displays how gullible Apple fans actually are, anon, Open you eyes
>>58215307
Ah now that came out a bit salty. Look I don't want to be rude to children so don't make me angry <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfktt22nUG4

>>58215332
bleachbit

>>58215336
So? How does this apply to me or the software? Even if you find 99% of iOS users that would still be meaningless scientifically speaking.

>>58214605
nope, out of the box and it doesn't "drops"

>>58215288
>It's a shit source which is biased towards Android. Now fuck off or provide good sources.
Failing to show a flaw in the methodology or basic assumptions.
Nice opinion you have there.

And yes, it's your opinion, not a fact, since you didn't back it up.

>t. apple toddler

>>58215332
You don't have any shit on Linux that you'd need to delete.

>>58215358
Apple hardware = trash
iOS without apple hardware = non existent

Is it hard?

>>58215378
except nonfree software

>>58215378
You don't have any shit on your computer that you'd need to delete.

Oh yeah, the mactard OS. Sorry

>>58215378
what are orphaned packages? and web browser and program caches,

>>58215378
So what's taking up space when I use Firefox on Linux?

>>58215419
>orphaned packages?
thats your package managers job
>>58215419
>web browser and program cache
these exist for a reason and have space limits

Hello, noob here.

I'm ready to take the plunge from W10 to Linux.
I tried a live usb with Elementary and so far I like it, it sees my ntfs disks and the hardware works.

I have a question:
Will when installed it also be able to write to the existing ntfs data disks? (usenet, torrents).
I don't have the space to backup all my movies and music.

>>58215445
Then what's an easy way of removing them both easily

>>58215467
- remove orphaned packages on update
- leave program caches alone, they exists to make your shit faster

>>58215460
It should, you may need to add the ntfs partitions to your fstab so you don't need to manually mount them.

>>58215460
>Will when installed it also be able to write to the existing ntfs data disks?
Yes. it sues a module(driver) called ntfs-3g, comes by default with any distro.

>I don't have the space to backup all my movies and music.
I would recommend unplugging data disks during installation. Just for safety.

>>58215496
There's 300mb of space that I can't account for and Firefox cache seems to be the only culprit so how do I get rid of that shit don't care if it's slow

when did /fglt/ convert into a you-rage-you-lose thread?

>>58215524
Open Firefox. Ctrl + shift + delete. Mark cache. Pick "Everything" or "Since forever".
Click "Delete Now".

>>58215548
Summer '16

>>58214417

Will I get more women if I use Arch Linux?

>>58215568
nice, thanks

>>58215594
Not if you tell them that you're using Arch Linux.

>>58215617
what's wrong with arch?

>>58215635
it's broken ootb
then you fix it
then you update
it's broken ootb
[...]

>>58215666
What's broken ootb

>>58215635
Its "simple and lightweight KISS ArchWay" thing is a all meme, but when you ignore it and the userbase, it's a nice distro.

>>58215666

Installing Arch Linux and using Arch Linux proves I have extreme intelligence which women seek in a man. They also seek cool alphas and using Arch Linux fulfills that.

>>58215681
p y t h o n

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Can anyone help me?

I'm trying to copy over a Raspberry Pi image onto a Kali box, but whenever I try and mount the file, or unzip the zipped version, I get an error message telling me that there's not enough space.

I do df -h which shows that I only have less than a gigs worth of space on rootfs.

I have created a few new Kali VMs and specified 20GB size for them all to only show that I have less than a gig available.

What am I doing wrong?

I'm not given the option to specify how many gigs per partition like you usually get with Ubuntu

>>58215716
What python program is broken?
Cinnamon/GNOME widgets? Deluge? Name one

Is fedora mate the ultimate Linux distro?

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>>58215719
>719 ▶
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>>58215407
>complaining about 'nonfree'
>posting on a closed source proprietary imageboard software

>>58215759
>>58215719
>unironically using windows

>>58215719
>>58215759
Please help

>>58215804
I'll help: stop using windows

>>58215826
I'm not using Windows retard

Is there a command that shows the font you are currently using in the terminal?

>>58215889
just look at the character

>>58215889
screenfetch -n | grep -i font

>>58215920
>screenfetch
>grep -i
what is wrong with you anon

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>>58215932
what's wrong?

>>58215953
don't pretend like you don't know, doc tor GNOME shill!

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>>58215889
For URxvt:

xrdb -query | awk -F: '/font/ { print  $3; exit }'

>>58215889
>go to terminal config
>find "font" section

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>>58215959
>tfw actually reading up GNOME developers' handbook

>>58215988
>using a terminal with a gui "font section"

>>58216021
>not using a terminal with a gui "font section"

>>58216033
>needing a terminal with a gui "font section"

>>58216021
vi ~/.config/<terminal>.config

>>58216043
>I set my terminal fonts with .config files gurl, look at me

>>58215759
>>58215719
Holy fuck, call yourselves Linux fags and you can't even help me out with what should be a simple problem. Cunts.

>>58216046
>vi
>not ed
babbies everywhere

Why do you guys use terminal emulators? Just use the fukkin TTY.

good thread

>>58216371
questionable post

>>58216371
Thanks

>>58216072
I don't call myself Linux fag.

Why would you use anything but Ubuntu for desktops and Debian for servers ?

Looks like a lot of servers are on RHEL, why exactly ?

>>58216990
10 years updates
comes with official support

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>>58216406
>I don't call myself Linux fag.
wut?

>>58217023
I can understand the need of a support, but what about CentOS in this case ?

>10 years updates*
Isn't Debian stable as fuck too ?

Should I use f2fs instead of ext4 on my SSD?

>>58216990
Also, Ubuntu is now a popular server option. It has 5 years plus support. Its WAY easier to update than RHEL. It's has MUCH more software in the repos that do receive security updates over it's lifetime.

>>58217055
no

>>58217057
>Ubuntu server
Why ? Isn't Debian more stable and viable ?

Also, I see that there is a Fedora server version, why use it and not CentOS ?

>>58217054
CentOS still has the 10 years updates.

>Isn't Debian stable as fuck too ?
Yes. But each version has a lifetime of about 2~3 years + 2 ~3 years of security updates.

Most servers I've used were debian or, more recently, ubuntu.

>>58217082
>Why ? Isn't Debian more stable and viable ?
Ubuntu server is pretty stable, mainly the LTS version. The main vantage over debian is that new versions of software are made available and the old ones receive security updates.

For example lets suppose debian 8 was released with django 0.9. Unless there is a massive security update that can't be backported, it will end it's life with only the 0.9 version available, which will receive security updates.

On ubuntu you will have the 0.9 version always available with security updates, but they will also make 1.0, 1.10, etc available.

>Fedora server
That's a meme. They support each version for like 12 months and red hat OSs usually require a reinstall to update.
It's changing with they new package manager, dnf, but debian and ubuntu are still far superior for version upgrades.

>>58217087
It's getting more and more confusing

So, if I should choose for myself or my company between a deskop distro and a server distro (DEB or RPM) how should I compare ?

/g/, I am new to linux mint and I don't know how to customise it. Please help me

>>58217222
What do you want to customize

>>58217276
My desktop

>>58217177
To make it simple, if you are going to use the same version of a software over a decade or if you develop your software against a stable API/ABI and won't make use of new features that may be released, then RHEL/CentOS.

Otherwise ubuntu/debian.
(If having the *option* to use newer software is important then ubuntu has advantage)

Note: By Ubuntu I mean Ubuntu LTS.

>>58217287
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

>>58217177
But in most cases is a question of preference. If you are already familiarized with one of them, use it.

>>58217307
I have thw cinnamon version of mint. How can I customise it?

>>58217357
What exactly do you want to change?

>>58217337
I'm playing with Raspbian at work for a Owncloud server
Gonna try Fedora XFCE in a VM to understand the differences, but I guess I won't understand if I don't use it 24/24

In final we wan't to cancel a lot of shit and do it ourself on a server, and we still don't know what Linux we'll use and learn.

>>58217371
I dont know, in general I guess

>>58217397
>Gonna try Fedora XFCE in a VM to understand the differences, but I guess I won't understand if I don't use it 24/24
It's basically the same. The differences are mostly in the package manager and package nomenclature.

>In final we wan't to cancel a lot of shit and do it ourself on a server, and we still don't know what Linux we'll use and learn.
I recommend ubuntu then, it has more widely available documentation. Anything that woks on ubuntu will probably work on debian too.

What does the server do?

>>58217422
That's hardware to answer. Do you have a general idea of what you want? Like change color schemes, background image, font etc?

>>58217456
Right now we have a lot of problems with :
-1and1 hosting our email
-Google Drive doing nothing when we update a doc
-hmailserver on a Vista who crash too many times
and some others little things

>>58217469
Like the things on /wg/.
I guess the thigns you are saying.

>>58217529
https://www.lifewire.com/customize-cinnamon-desktop-environment-linux-mint-2202086

>>58217540
Thanks bro

>>58217504
>-1and1 hosting our email
Be aware, hosting your email server is usually not enjoyable.

>-Google Drive doing nothing when we update a doc
I'm not into the botnet, I can't help here.

>-hmailserver on a Vista who crash too many times
>hmailserver
>Vista
There two clear problems here. Do you NEED to use those? Postfix on linux works much better.

Digital ocean has plenty of tutorials for beginners to setup servers.

neither xev nor xbindkeys detect my thinkvantage button. what do?
t420/arch/i3

>>58217625
>Be aware, hosting your email server is usually not enjoyable.
Can't be worst than emails not working for days/weeks and their support doing nothing.

We're switching for Owncloud

>Do you NEED to use those?
No, but we're a young company and at the begining my boss got a Vista and hmailserver was the first answer for our needs on Google I guess.

Hey guys, i've been playing around with Ubuntu for some time (a few months). I have installed it along with windows on dual boot. Now i want to try learning Kali and thinking about triple booting it. Is there anything i said that is wrong? Is Kali as good as they say?

>>58217666
Its a hardware key, it does not send it keycodes to the os, it is a level above so you can do special keycodes that only access outside

>>58217684
>Is there anything i said that is wrong?
Yes.
> Is Kali as good as they say?
No. It's for script kiddies and won't teach you anything useful. If you want to be a l33t h4ck3r pick books on programming, operating systems, network and hardware.

>>58217720
Why the hate? I actually wanted to try pen testing, and the best Linux based OS i found is Kali, closely followed by Parrot.

>>58217684
are you baiting?
if not:
>triple booting it
kali isnt really supposed to be used like that. rather install it on a usb or use it through a VM.
also, there is no >learning kali but learning its tools. it is more or less a collection of pen tools.
>Is Kali as good as they say?
what do they say? it is a pretty fun distro to play around with. professional pentesters/security experts dont really a preorganised assortment I guess.
t. not a security expert.

>>58217675
>Can't be worst than emails not working for days/weeks and their support doing nothing.
Gmail has a business mail, it works pretty well for me. USD 3,50 per month per user.

>>58217775
Not baiting, just saw the "friendly" tag and thought i'll ask some really newbie questions. Wouldn't booting it through usb worsen its performance?

>>58217777
>USD 3,50 per month per user
We have nearly 200 mails so nope

>>58217765
Kali is fine, but don't learn the tools
You can use the tools at beginning but you want to learn the workings and how to pentest where the tools stop, this requires a huge amount of reading,learning because there is lots too it ( networking,OS security,application security,programming,web applications,crypto, inner workings of the OS ) and alot more.

>>58217765
It's not hate, I'm dead serious. It's for script kiddies. No one seriously uses it and you won't learn 'pentesting' with it.

Actually 'pentesting' is not a real thing, no one that works with security uses that word.

Some good books:
The C programming Language(not exactly for beginners)
Computer Systems a Programmers Perspective
Operating System Design and Implementation
Unix Network Programming vol I & ii
The TCP/IP Protocol, IBM Redbooks
The tutorial for Scapy

More related to security/malware but require knowledge of the above:

Practical Malware Analysis
Reversing - Secrets of reversing egineer
The Rootkit arsenal
The shellcoders handbook
The art of software security assessment

Some other good books:
The Art Of computer Programming
Artificial Intelligence a Modern Approach
Computer Organization and design


I've heard of but haven't read(both introductory)
How to Think like a computer scientist
Computer Science from bottom up

After you have a good notion of how things work, you can just search: software do to X and read the manual.


Note: I prefer to learn things by doing them, I'm not trying to scare you with a list of books os pass as a hacker l33t. There just are somethings you won't learn on tutorials.

>>58217892
Yeah, you will probably want to use postfix + postgres/mysql then.

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>not playing gnu go in your terminal

>>58217960
But on which Distro ... ?
Does it matter at this point ?

How long would it take to install gentoo with i3/awesome on a first gen mobile i5?

>>58214417
How do I create a desktop shortcut on Fedora 25?
I cant find my app in /usr/share/applications because the program is a .exe file on a virtual drive.

>>58217968
I love this board game.

>>58217765
Kali is indeed the only "serious" pentesting distro. I'd stay away from all the other homegrow ones.

>>58217973
>Does it matter at this point ?
Not much. All the software you need for email is available on all distros. New features, the few of them, are not deal breakers. Most of the time it will be just running updates and keeping track of stuff.
Use whatever you find more convenient.

What is best distro on your opinions anons?

For someone who use it to listen music, watch movies, browse, develop(c/c++/java/php/js)

>>58218055
ubuntu

>>58218055
For development, you want a rolling release with fresh stuff. So get something like Fedora, Arch, Debian Sid, etc.

>>58217912
Yes, i've actually started learning cryptography a few months back, and it was what got me into trying to find a different OS other than Windows, which i was using for the past 12+ years.

>>58217926
Thanks for the recommendation! Most of the good books you posted i have already read or generally looked into. I wanted to put some of that knowledge to use, even on an experimental level. If not Kali, then which OS would be most preferable?

>>58218112
Yeah, so the API/ABI for the library you are developing against changes out fo nowhere, everything stops working and you can't figure out why.

>>58218122
My 2 cents:

- choose a topic
- install related programs on your current distro
- learn them
- choose a new topic

With installing Kali you have 1000000000000 tools and basically don't know where to start or what you want. IMHO pentesting distros make only sense if you're pentesting on a daily basis.

>>58218138
Well, you aren't going to develop stuff for outdated other stuff, right?

>>58218122
>Most of the good books you posted i have already read
Why are you asking about kali then?

> If not Kali, then which OS would be most preferable?
Any GNU+Linux that is well maintained, has good documentation is a good collection of packages.

Kali only has the last, which it inherited from debian.

Arch, fedora, *buntu and debian are good options, in no special order.


The best way is to learn a software at a time. For example, I want to sniff networks, I install and study wireshark. I want to make custom tcp/udp packages to test vulnerabilities in low level software, I install scapy or use netcat.

Good forums are kernelmode.info and tuts4you. Also subscribe to the development mailing list of software related to what you are studying, if low level networking openssl and the linuc network stack are good options.

>>58214417
Hey look, a huge list of GNU/Linux news that might come handy

https://distrowatch.com/
https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=home
http://www.certdepot.net/
http://freedompenguin.com/
http://linuxmednews.com/
http://www.muylinux.com/
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/
http://www.unixmen.com/
http://itsfoss.com/
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=home
http://www.linuxlinks.com/
http://www.linuxveda.com/
http://iart.linuxers.org/
http://linuxwire.net/
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
https://news.opensuse.org/
http://www.osnews.com/
http://www.thegeekstuff.com/
https://tlhp.cf/
http://www.tuxmachines.org/
http://www.webupd8.org/
https://lwn.net/
http://xmodulo.com/
https://tuxtweaks.com/
http://www.linux-mag.com/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/
http://magazine.redhat.com/
http://www.fsdaily.com/
http://www.ilovefreesoftware.com/
http://www.entirelyopensource.com/
http://www.tuxarena.com/

plus for gaymes
https://linuxgameconsortium.com/
http://www.penguspy.com/
https://lgdb.org/
https://libregamewiki.org/Main_Page
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/
http://www.linuxgames.com/
http://www.tuxgames.com/index.cgi?referrer=linuxgames
http://www.tuxarena.com/intro/ref_steam.php

>>58218247
I just rss subreddits.

>>58218211
Yes, you actually are. If you start developing your software with the libXYZ1.0, you will want everything to work with thins version. You will also not want everything to suddenly stop working.
If the new version of your software uses libXYZ1.1, then you carefully read the changelog, change your code and test things.

>>58218247
Thanks.

>>58214417
Just finished watching the RMS talks from the copypasta collection and I've seen the light. I fucking love this man. Y'all need to check out his speeches. Thanks for ready my blogpost.

>>58218363
unfriended.

>>58218266
what are some good subreddits?

>>58217978
Pls respond
I don't want to use arch
I'm not fat enough

>>58218363
Wish there was a podcast on the OP all times for the GNU/Linux news. Also the Revolution OS documentary is minblowing.

>>58218379
Not sure that's applicable to a blog friendo.

>>58218363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqfhSF4zP8A

>>58218398
Depends on your hardware and if you get everything right at first.
Between 1 hour and 1 week I would say.

Gentoo is no less of a meme than arch.

Use trisquel or fedora.

>>58218442
>>58218398
Also Parabola

>>58218442
It's a laptop, so the processor should be the only thing I have to worry about

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whats the best online guide for troubleshooting kernel panics?

anyone else heard of linux being successfully installed on a Lenovo Z70

>>58218517
I've never ever heard of a lenovo z70

I just installed openssh-server and I want to be able to connect to my computer on my phone via ssh. I tried connecting using my username@hostname, but it can't resolve my hostname. How can I get it to connect?

>>58218500
>It's a laptop, so the processor should be the only thing I have to worry about
Compiling an OS is not as simple as picking drivers. Compile options depend on what software you are going to use.

How do I wipe EVERYTHING off of a hard drive.
I want to get my solus install off of /dev/sda, but this fedora USB won't give me the option to install over existing data

>>58218538
They are in the same network?
Can you ping the server from the phone?
Is port 22 open on the server?
Did you try hostname.local?

>>58218551
A light wm or de, and all I'll be using it for is Firefox and maybe some VMs

>>58218575
Just to reinstall? Delete the partition table on the disk. Do you want to override everything? dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourDisk bs=1M

Do you want to override everything securely? dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/yourDisk bs=1M

>>58218586
You are going to have two main hassles, xorg and firefox. Remember to enable kvm, at least.

>>58218579
Right now they're on the same network, I think. But I want to be able to connect while I'm out and about.

I'm using Connectbot on Android. No idea how to ping my home computer.

>>58218617
>No idea how to ping my home computer.
Search: Android Ping

>Right now they're on the same network, I think. But I want to be able to connect while I'm out and about.
Try adding the .local after the hostname.

To use it over the internet you will need to know what IP your modem currently has. You will need to setup port forwarding on the router and maybe on the mode.
You might want to use a service like no-ip.

>>58218603
I have no valuable data on the disk
I just don't want the other OS taking up gigabytes on my hard drive

>>58218247
opensource.com

>>58218614
Ah. Guess I'll just try arch then

>>58218429
Somewhat related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-k7ftaUw2c

>>58218663
Just delete the partition table and create a new one, with new partitions. Any installer should have this option. Usually under "advanced partitioning" or something.

>inb4 arch

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>>58218536
its a piece of shit gaming laptop with hybrid graphics and i get kernel panics every so often when i am browsing or especially watching video on the net

how do I stop xfdesktop crashing when using terminus as the default font?

>>58218703
Use mate instead

>>58218702
>hybrid graphics
Most likely the problem.

I never had one of those, so I don't know how exactly how the kernel deals with it. What the KP say? Try installing toher driver versions.

>>58218755
>fix problem by installing a different program
found the retard

>>58218764
Xfce is shit, anon

>>58218654
Forwarding worked, thanks.

>>58218787
Remember to associate your servers mac address with a fixed Ip on the router. Otherwise you it will stop working when you restart the router.

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>>58218429
>that talk about the history of printing press/copyright
thanks for posting anon

>>58218900
You are welcome

>sign up to gentoo forums to get some help
>4 days later still haven't had my account approved by a mod to post there

I fully installed everything, but when I ran

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

It returns "device node not found" about 50 times, then it finds both the linux and initrd image, then returns another 50 or so "device not found messages. weird by it finds the images. then when I reboot and use grub it sees a gentoo install on sdb, but when I go to boot into it it says "device node not found" again, it can't find the image. Anyone have a suggestion to what I could be doing? Should I post the grub config and whatnot here too?

I'm not on arch btw.

I want to purge SystemD from Arch and install runit.
Has anybody done this?

I was thinking about modifying Obarun (distro) to do so. Is this a reasonable approach?

>>58219031
Follow the wiki on how to do it

>>58219060
I think I need to specify: I don't want to have SystemD installed.

http://systemd-free.org/ offers some instructions, but they are Open-RC specific as far as I can tell.

>>58219077
I think i need to specify. Read the wiki

>>58218363
>>58218429
>>58218900
>>58218914
Here is a torrent for the documentary named "The Code" I am currently viewing

>magnet
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:1b2fde54b1692c9c67dfaa088e41fd6a52982ce6&dn=The+Code+-+Story+of+Linux+%282001%29+DVDRip+x264+AC3&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

>>58219088
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/runit

where does it say anything about removing systemd?

fucking jew

>>58219112
>If you just want to get your feet wet and not replace init just yet, runit-musl can be installed side-by-side with the regular Arch systemd PID1, providing just process supervision of those services you put in /var/service.

>>>""""""""""reading comprehension""""""""""

>>58219135
So, the other anon is right, the Arch wiki doesn't explain how to remove systemd.

>>58219155
>sudo pacman -R systemd
Next

>>58219001
You probably misconfigured fstab or something is not mounted. Also the problem might be related with mbr/gpt.

Looking for a distro to put onto an few years old asus eee pc, should I go mint or fedora? mostly going to be doing some minor CAD shit on it and some 3d printing stuff

>>58219490
Fedora. Go with the xfce spin, tho. GNOME 3 sucks ass, and MATE users up too much screen real estate

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>>58218760
sorry what is KP?

right now i just put ubuntu on it but it had the problem with arch as well even with the hybrid graphics disabled

atm im trying to figure out how to do a kdump but the guides on the net have differing instructions
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe

https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kdump

one is straightforward and the other is talking about setting up a seperate virtual machine to dump the logs to? and then the arch one is using systemd

>>58219501
thx, I'll give it a whirl tonight

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Would you write drivers in C++ instead of C?

>>58219591
I don't know how to program, so neither

>>58219591
In C, C++ is very prone to disaster.

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I was going to install fedora until i saw this guy on the fedora website,

just...

NO

>>58219712
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

http://www.qnx.com/content/qnx/en.html

>>58219540
do you have that pape without the text by any chance?

>>58220463
To be honest C++ creates .obj and .o files which are vulnerable to exploits

>>58219540
>>58220589
nvm found it

>>58218429
I guess I'm officially redpilled about copyright, holy shit. Thanks for posting. Are there more talks about different topics like this one?

>>58220419
there's a better reason not to use fedora; they're trolling you into "strict guidelines about free software" but ship the thing with nonfree drivers. not saying that it's bad when you need them, but claiming to be free and shipping nonfree stuff is staight trolling and they do this for the sole purpose of getting more users to betatest for rhel, don't they?

>>58221073
Afaik only rawhide gets alpha stuff.

>>58221073
I'd happily test for RHEL. This is one of the way you can contribute to the community

>>58221252
Which community? Nobody is using Fedora nor RHEL (except companies).

>>58221307
RHEL is maintaining a very large portion of Linux and Linux software. If there was no RHEL Linux would be like unusable garbage like FreeBSD

I switched from unity to xfce on my ubuntu machine, currently running it with no problems. What exactly is the difference between what I have and xubuntu? Would I see any change in performance if I switched to xubuntu over ubuntu?

>>58221307
>implying the size of the community matters
Let's compare Red Hat with Canonical. Compare the amount of community and compare which company is worse. It would be great if more people would drop Ubuntu for Fedora, because they care (maybe not 100%), but much more about freedom than Canonical.

>>58221353
Who even gives a shit about RHEL. Anyone with a bit of technical knowledge would decide to use a gratis as in no payment version like centos.

>>58221382
fedora comes with selinux, a program developed by the nsa :^)

>>58220419
>guy
Pretty sure "Christine" is a female name, anon.

>>58221382
>Who even gives a shit about RHEL
Kernel developers

>>58221413
How so?

Is it illegal to pirate rhel? Serious question.

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>>58221431
I'd just like to interject for a moment. Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

>>58221378
Xubuntu has better battery life than Ubuntu, and also uses less RAM

>>58221460
Battery life isn't distro related, retard. It's related to how you use your computer.

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>>58221431
Good question. Is RHEL Free Software?

>>58221421
https://www.cnet.com/au/news/who-writes-the-linux-kernel-an-update/

>>58221497
cnet should get a better web designer

>>58221513
I hardly believe anyone uses cnet or softonic any more

I don't know may be normiest of the normies might use it

I have a question related to distros that are hosted at sourceforge. I heard that it's bad because sf bundled crap into random software like GIMP. Now I've read that sf changed ownership, but does it also mean that sf stuff isn't cucked anymore?

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>>58221568
Change of ownership is not relevant to it being (un)safe.

Just torrent, my man

>>58221568
Always cut out the man in the middle, which means, not using sourceforge.

>>58221597
which also means, not using github, AUR, PPAs, etc, right?
what a retard

>>58221585
if they changed ownership, how does it mean they're still assholes?

>>58221623
how does it mean they are not bigger assholes now?

>>58221623
I'm taking ownership of the Dr KDE Shill namefaggotry, and I'm an asshole aswell.

>>58221627
Y so pessimistic

>>58221642
Sorry

if we all use Dr KDE Shill, is it still namefagging?

>>58221661
No it's called a little fanclub

>>58214953
some distros gzip their modules, so "*.ko" won't always work
also, you can use basename to strip off paths, which is probably faster than using sed

find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name '*.ko*' -exec basename {} \; | sort

>>58221661
Yes, and it belongs to >>>/r/ebbit where identity is welcome.

>>58221670
Very nice. Thanks & saved.

>>58221670
just compared, seems basename is slower
basename: real:0m4.549s user:0m0.100s sys:0m0.432s
sed: real:0m0.380s user:0m0.216s sys:0m0.028s

>>58221750
come to think if it, sed is only run once, and has buffered input from the pipe
only considered avoiding regex, i guess find's "-exec" isn't that efficient

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Friendly reminder to fire up ur GIMP/Krita and cont. here: >>>/wg/6785580

>>58222012
>hakon
literally who?

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>>58222029
`hakon' is the original fag who reported the famous filepicker bug 12 years ago: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

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>>58222061

>>58222082
Stop abusing my name faggot

Why is the Debian installer so poor for manually partitioning and encrypting, the default disk config it provides only gives 10GB for root too

>>58222061
that bug will be a teenager soon, will someone make it a birthday cake?

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>>58222061
>NEW

>>58222061
>12 year complaining
>not commiting a patch

>>58222267
Actually, some 4channer committed a patch for GTK2, but GTK2 is frozen and most programs use GTK3.

>>58222061
>open source development

Whats a good distro for LiveUSB that can be fully copied to RAM ? I dont know the technical name for this but wifislax could do it

>>58217980
Bump

>>58222316
you can run any distro from ram with a simple initramfs/shutdown hook

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I'm trying out i3 for the first time on my manjaro xfce installation but pressing $mod+d gets me whatever the upper thing in the image is. So I have to type dmenu-desktop to get into what I want $mod+d to get me.

So what do I do?

>>58222329
Im a bit of a newb
I want a distro that i can put in a usb and do the following
>boot from usb
>see option to load the Os on ram
>press enter on it
Just that

>>58222363
wouldn't be difficult to do

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>>58222353
no idea what the lower one is, but the upper one is vanilla dmenu

LINUX/THREAD: >>58222436
LINUX/THREAD: >>58222436
LINUX/THREAD: >>58222436

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I'm actually going to rewrite the file picker
>>58222325
https://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop

how do I delet a structure and its values in a text
I want to get rid of this kind of appendage in an url
'?fref=ts&__nodl'
'?fref=hovercard'
and so on

what do I put after the = sign so I delet it all