/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>58201016
Budgie is a mess. It's just screwed and chopped gnome. It's worse than cinnamon.

Hi everybody.

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>mfw there are freetards in this very thread using google botnet captcha to post on a closed source proprietary software imageboard

Reminder that if you're not using one of these distros
> Arch
> Void
> Gentoo
> Funtoo
> Exherbo
> Slackware
> CRUX
> NixOS
> GuixSD
> Devuan
> LFS
you need to leave /g/ and preferably end yourself.

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Hello /fglt/, I have a question about lightweight distros. I am interested in getting a nice light gnu/linux OS on an old laptop, all I ever do on it is just browse sites and maybe torrent a few movies. What is the general consensus of Lubuntu for just doing that, or should I try Arch and just install it bare bones?

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>>58201122
Spotted the archfag

>>58201122
>>58201176
Way to go you ruined the thread

>>58201018
If I plan on getting a job working on servers and workstations, should I install CentOS or would any GNU distribution do

>>58201256
>>58201272
Arch did nothing wrong

>>58201176
Isn't CRUX just a more autistic Arch?

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>>58201256
We're just like you except not stupid.

>>58201249
It doesn't matter. You probably don't even need to use something as light as lxde.

>>58201296
>uses i3
>not stupid

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I just installed Arch Linux, what now?

>from last thread
Scenario:
need to run two(or more) consecutive commands on terminal on the same path, and/or dependent on last command completion.

What I do:
Option A:
$command A&&command B

Option B
$command A
open another terminal, cd to working dir, type command B, wait, hit enter.

Option C(just thought of this one)
Shortcut to open new tab/terminal on current path
this along option B so no need to type cd.

any other option? I think I have some OCD when it comes with things like these problems. I can't just be a normal person and wait. sorry for my autismo

>>58201412
whats wrong with &&

>>58201176
>LFS
That's not a distro. That's a book. Fucking imbecile.

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>>58201322
>ability to switch between ten workspaces blazing fast
>stupid
Nope

>>58201448
Not sure what you're behing, but maybe you're looking for a subshell.

(cd directory; ls;)

Your current terminal will stay like before.

>>58201451
-Often misstype, or just fails. Pain in the ass specially with more than 2 commands to find out what went wrong.
-Command A can be being executed while I type Command B.

>>58201486
>>>/pol/

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>>58201412
>>58201448
Stop

>>58201511
brb testing

>>58201547
>>58201486
>not ricing your 4keks css

>>58201486
>using workspaces
>>58201544
not browsing /pol/

>>58201418
install gentoo

>>58201544
So. What the fuck does one of my tabs have to do with this?

>>58201566
>>using workspaces
do people still navigate their shit by clicking things on their system bar? That shit is fucking stupid.

Whenever I want to run a scrip on terminal, do I always have to go to the folder the scripts is located and run from there?
always "cd /path/to/script && ./script" ?
It's a good idea do make a alias such as script="path/to/script && ./script" to simply use it as a shortcut or is there a better way?
If I add this script to /usr/bin, will I be able to execute it from anywhere?

Also, when running from the terminal, I end up locking this particular terminal and getting output in it. The "correct" way of NOT getting output in terminal and not locking it would be something like this? Using telegram as an example:
alias tl="cd /opt/Telegram && nohup ./Telegram > ~/.logs/telegram.txt &"

Thanks.

Why is arch so bloated?

Posted in the old thread also;

Can I have a Window "display on all desktops" using the i3 windows manager?

>>58201647
1. Create ~/bin
2. Save: export PATH="${PATH}:~/bin" into your profile or bashrc
3. ????
4. Run scripts located in ~/bin from anywhere

>>58201647
If you don't want any output or logfiles, you can redirect everything [stdout (1) and stderr (2)] to /dev/null.

sh: >/dev/null 2>&1
bash: program &>/dev/null

>>58201760
-sh:
+sh: program

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>>58200894

>>58201658
it's not

>>58201817
plain i3 is pretty ugly, add some rice buddy

>>58201855
It's not vanilla but okay pal

>>58201760
cool
And what about nohup, do I always need to use it?

>>58201961
>you can't deny a good distro just for that
you can. i also stopped reading at "bvg"

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I don't get this Arch hate meme.

I know it is associated with some of the most obnoxious shitposters, but you can't deny a good distro just for that.
Those shitposters are just a small subset of its userbase and because they are mostly present on /g/ it's easier for you to generalize.
And even if they are the majority, even if they're all the lowest scum of the earth, you still can't deny this:
> Arch has a great package manager.
> Even though it's rolling release and has the newest packages, it's still quite stable (never had a problem).
> Official repos combined with the AUR have approximately as much packages as in the Debian repos.
> Even if a program is mising from the repos, the ABS allows you to easily make a package out of it and install it via pacman.
> Also, it spawned the greatest GNU/Linux wiki that mankind has ever known and 99.9% of it can be applied on any distro.

If the distro is good and works for you, who cares about it's userbase?
Nobody's making you interact with them anyway.

Overall I think Arch had more good than bad influence on the FOSS world and I don't think it deserves the hate that it gets.

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>>58201018
>>/t/'s GNU/Linux Games:
>>>>/t/707928

Reminder to update this link because it reached bump limit, new link to GNU/Linux Games Thread
>>>/t/749768
>>>/t/749768
>>>/t/749768

>>58202010
I'm drunk

>>58202019
The AUR is not an official Arch repo. It's the same as git clone literallywho's github repo.

>>58202019

people who cant own up to their mistakes. (not paying attention/reading)

>>58202059
Im running arch

>>58202051
So? It still makes installing those programs easier than on Debian for example.
Also, if you just git cloned literallywho's github repo on Debian, apt wouldn't know about it, but on Arch you can keep track of packages installed via PKGBUILD scripts with pacman.
It's basically the same concept as ports on *BSD.

>>58202019
Following these threads, Arch seems to break a lot. I don't want to have panic on every update. ;_; Or... are all these people doing something funamentally wrong?

>>58202070

im talking about the people who give it a bad rep

>>58201647
put you're scripts in ~/bin
mkdir ~/bin
most distros will add ~/bin to your path, once it exists, if you log out and in of your de.
otherwise, do it live.
PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" in .bashrc

>>58202084
You can build packages and install them with apt too.

>>58202090
run arch?

>>58202019
If arch is so good, why don't they add a simple installer?

>>58202101

i do. just hit the one year mark last month

>>58202086
Arch doesn't break often at all.

>>58202113
To weed out the weak, an not take all the fun out of installing it.

>>58202114

read the faq. no matter how big the distro gets, there'll never be an installer. You can write one though.

>>58202086
>Or... are all these people doing something funamentally wrong?
Probably.
I never had problems with Arch since I switched from Debian.
I've had Debian break on me though (but that was probably my fault at the time).

>>58202137 was intended for >>58202113

>>58202019
Thoughts to this:
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html ?

Is it possible to do a debian net install over wifi?

>>58202159
I think so, read the wiki.

>>58202019
The shit userbase is indeed a problem. Once you instal Arch, you're one of them.

>>58202086
I think they are straight up lying or "memeing" or whatever. If you've ever actually used arch you would find that it's rock solid.

>>58202157
Butthurt tard upset about systemd.

>>58202179
Did you learn to read in school?

>>58202180
Yes. Good guess.

>>58202189
Obviously not.

>>58202175
Now that the meme about mom having to cancel your meetings because pacman broke xorg.conf again is generally accepted as bullshit, let's redirect our slander at the userbase.

>>58202179
no, it's an arch dev anwsering and debunking all the memes about kiss, minimalism, being lightweight, etc

read it faggot

>>58202195
Obviously not a good guess?
You got it first try, bro.

>>58202203
No it's a butthurt faggot flinging shit everywhere because hes pissed off about systemd. You read it again. I read it in 2015.

>>58202230
>he doesn't accept the truth when confronted with it

>>58202086
I see lots of people with very little to none GNU/Linux experience hop on to Arch here for those internetz points.
I've used Ubuntu for about 6 months before I was fed up, after that I used Debian for a couple of years (and Fedora, but not too long).
I had no problem installing Arch the first time (did it under 15 min probably) while I hear people complaining about it here all the time.
I think most of the time someone complains about Arch "breaking" it's somehow his own fault.

Like I said, when I was inexperienced, I even managed to break Debian stable.

>>58202253
Whats your experience with Arch so far, compared to other distros?

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>>58202157
>Arch has *never* been minimalist
So, basically, current devs are idiots?

Abandon Arch.

>>58202157
Most FSF approved distros runs systemd and you still won't have a choice if you use something that depends on it.

>>58202279
Except GNewSense, the distro Stallman uses.

Nice try anyway.

>>58202253
>Debian
Should be renamed to Dependency hellian.

>>58202268
i used it for 2 or 3 years. There's nothing wrong with it. I like the way it handles .conf files on updates especially. (arch wiki pacnew)

>>58202279
The post isn't about systemd holy shit. Learn2read.

>>58202298
>>58202253
not debian's fault, here's why:
breaking debian based distros is easy
beginners usually add all sorts of shady ppa's, which mostly also contain different versions of libs and all that jazz. if the user then tries to update or install something, he's running obviously into conflicts and then complains that debian is shit

>>58202268
I have yet to see something break.
So far it's been really good and I like it more than Debian.

>>58202310
Try reading the whole thread. It's about systemd.

>>58202157
> dependencies aren't made optional
whenever possible
Debian is much worse in that regard.

>>58202358
Not really, apt has flags to disable recommended dependencies or suggestions. Most people just don't use them.

>>58201176
> LFS
That's not a distro, thats a driving sim
I'll always use ubuntu variants just because I'll always be a newbie and only scratch the surface of what linux actually is.
Is there anything wrong with that?

Question: Why, every time when the topic reaches Arch faggotry, Archfags start hating on Debian?

>>58202340
He didn't post the whole thread. Stop trying to change the topic to systemd, faggot.

I'm on Arch, btw.

>>58202395
I still don't get the point of trash talking about arch linux personally.

>>58202395
simple

>someone complains about arch?
>it's the invisible debian boogyman

>someone complains about debian?
>it's the sivisible arch boogyman

red team vs blue team in eternity

>>58202507
What about Fedora?

>>58202432
Well google it then you fucking retard. And in the meantime quit telling those who actually DO know what it's about what it's about.

>>58202019
>it's still quite stable
this meme is quite funny. In 6 year of using linux, the most unstable piece of shit I had was ubuntu. Debian had old packages so I had some issues with it. Fedora was nice tho.
Arch never crapped on me in 2 year

Friendly reminder to post your meme papes here: >>>/wg/6785580

>>58202540
Luckily not everyone is unable to read like you. Feels comfy. :^)

>>58202432 >>58202157
I (this guy >>58202019) read it.
So what?
For now I have no problems with the developers' decisions.
If that changes I won't hesitate to switch to another distro.

The developers don't feel the need to cater to users and that's part of the reason why Arch is what it is.
They will make some basic decisions (maybe they won't leave the users any freedom there) but the rest is up to the users.
Thosse who disagree with the developers' decisions are free to leave.

I never said it Arch provides as much freedom as Gentoo or some other distros.
But I am fine with it.

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This is a warning and I am going to make it clear for the non-technical people. The pseudo object oriented framework DBus, can expose a chain of processes and is network enabled and as a remote procedure call can be issued actions through the network like systemd. This is madness. The control over cgroups systemd has gives extraordinary advantage from developers over users as to debug these frameworks from the userland, without offering additional security because remember that developers always challenge anyone to fork the project instead of accepting legitimate bugfixes to be done.

Moreover, systemd makes possible to random processes snoop into your desktop and take snapshots if you use wayland thanks to the wayland implementation using a fbdev backend.

I don't criticize the DBus object path or than it can't expose connected processes, it would be interesting to have an OPTIONAL object oriented framework, but the remote procedure calls, the cannibaliztion and extreme intrusion of systemd, and adding to such an intrusive framework in the hands of such dubious corporation like RedHat, is very dangerous.

>>58202582
>memegenerator
>>>/r/ebbit

Reposting from last thread, is there any Window Manager or theme that can look like Early Mac OS, like System 7 or OS 8?

>>58202582
I simply use it.
Get fucked faggot.

>>58202274
Not really. I think devs and users aren't on the same definition of what is "minimalist". For devs it means technical stuff (dependencies, etc.) while for the users it's just having a system and the software they need only (and they don't give a fuck about dependencies, cflags etc.)

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>>58202597
>>58202604
shills detected

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what aur manager is /fglt/ using?

>>58202671
none

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>>58202159
>>58202166
O fuggggggg u Sdallman XDDDDDDD

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>>58202742

>>58202603
bump

>>58202742
>>58202763
What hostname?
>inb4 Kevin

>>58202671
cower

>>58202629
whereas for the design fags taking over the industry it means "deliberately removing features, UX and options because my art professor said it was bad"

>>58202603
>>58202778
Some anon made an xfce theme

>>58202788
x201 of course

>>58202742
>debian
that's what you get

>>58202802
Do you have a link for it?

>>58202823
Nice, isn't it? Instead of bloating up your kernel like on Arch, you only add what you need.

>>58202788
pls no "somethingbox"

>>58202852
I just went full autism and did >>58202816
Real problem is the domain name

>>58202840
>bloating up your kernel
>like convenience is somehow a bad thing
I'm not running an embedded system here and Arch is not meant for that anyway.
Why the fuck should I care?

>>58202840
Are you stupid?
The kernel only loads the drivers it needs.

>>58202913
pls learn2kernel

>>58202840
I think he's talking about the price of freedom that is
>no wireless drivers

>>58202944
>buying cucked hardware in the first place

>>58202961
I fell for the meme, okay :^)

>>58202944
>price of freedom
I don't get it. What prevents someone who likes free software from installing proprietary wifi ucode?

>>58203012
The FSF is cucking Debian, so no proprietary software, including drivers, are included by default
Thank Stallman for the current state if Linux... sorry gannoo slash linux

What the hell is a logical volume manager, and why would I need it?

>>58203038
Nobody is """cucking""" Debian. Debian decides for itself not to ship nonfree shit out of the box (which is actually nice). It also doesn't prevent anyone from installing nonfree shit, so how is it """cucked"""?

>>58203060
don't feed him

>>58203060
>>58203087
I'm just saying that Debian doesn't include proprietary software in the iso
Also, they're cucked because they're a libre distro, but the FSF doesn't want to endorse them

>>58203038
>thinking non free software doesn't cuck you

Is Linux communism?

>>58203135
Linux is a kernel, developed by Linus Torvalds.

>>58203135
No, communism and Finns cannot coexist together

Solus, Mint, or Debian for a third OS on my MacBook? It'll be used primarily for developing.

>>58203306
Debian
Also
>macboom
Tried one out at Best Buy
Trackpad was absolute dogshit

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If you're on Telegram join the GNU/Linux fan club.

https://telegram.me/linux_fan_club

Oh fuck, the default DE for debian is GNOME 3

I got a new laptop that has both an SSD and an HDD in it. When installing openSUSE on it the HDD wasn't being detected at all. I continued with the install using the SSD as I was going to make the HDD a data partition so nothing was being installed to it. After installing it still won't find the HDD. However the HDD is still visible in the BIOS and was still available in Windows beofre installing openSUSE. The HDD is also detected when I boot a gparted live system. So the HDD isn't dead nor is it a linux specific issue. Any ideas why this is? and how I can make it usable in openSUSE?

kek https://github.com/jayphelps/git-blame-someone-else/commit/e5cfe4bb2190a2ae406d5f0b8f49c32ac0f01cd7

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What are some easy kernel customization tasks to feed my autism?

>>58202671

$ git clone && makepkg -Cc && pacman -U

>>58203713
Gentoo (I'm not memeing).
It has ncurses-based pseudo-graphical menu to select kernel features you want, no need to set FLAGSHIT.

>>58203922
Done 5 months ago lmao.

>>58203935
Congrats.

>>58201018
linux babby, winfag for over a decade

Using Mint on new laptop for CompSci course next year

I've always heard linux users boasting about customisability and such (esp in ricing/desktop threads), but I've one found similar or lesser custiomisability than Windows.
Am I just looking in the wrong spots?

Also, where can I find general noob advice?

>>58204059
If you're looking for customizable DE for ricing, you might wanna try XFCE, not to mention every DE is customizable (at least as far as I know).

>noob advice
Learn terminal, package manager, and you're good.

>>58204128
>you might wanna try XFCE, not to mention every DE is customizable (at least as far as I know).
is Cinnamon going to make ricing harder/restricted?

linux

>>58204059
Cinnamon is just one environment. Check out:

KDE
GNOME
Xfce
i3
Awesome
Herbstluftwm
Xmonad
LXDE
Openbox
Fluxbox

etc
etc

>>58204141
You're better off leaving the old paradigm of desktop usage behind and start exploring hot corners and workspaces or tiling. To be honest.

>>58204141
I don't know, when I used it a long time ago, I've never tried to riced it.
Ricing DE isn't that difficult compared to pure WM, you don't even have to write configuration file.
I'm not even using DE right now, so I can't be so sure.

>>58204182
>You're better off leaving the old paradigm of desktop usage behind and start exploring hot corners and workspaces or tiling.
Just tried hot corners and workspaces; it's pretty cool. Reminds me of those 'desktop cube' programs I used for fun when I was like 12, that had 6 desktops you could switch between.

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>>58204257
KDE does it best imo.

>>58201049
Whats bad about cinnamon?

>>58204467
It's a screwed and chopped fork of gnome. It's not horrible but it is what it is.

>>58204527
Isn't that how forking works?

>>58204551
Yes. Budgie and Cinnamon are just bastard children.

>>58204623
I don't get your implications there.

>>58204632
Okay

>>58204059
Install a windows manager and compile your own packages if you want customizability on mint.

>>58204879
He is already running a window manager probably

>>58204897
alright, a WM without a DE then.

>>58204971
He is already running a Desktop Environment probably

>>58204978
Yes, but he said he wanted to rice and customize his desktop, you can't achieve very much of this with a DE.

>>58204879
>compile your own packages
please explain. I am a complete unix noob

>>58205026
You need to do this in order to install any package you want that can't be found in your official repositories, I suggest you to look into the documentation of the distro you're currently using.

>>58205026
>google.com
>*click*
>"compile packages linux"
>*click*

>>58205072
>google.com
>implying
but yes point taken

>>58205144
>not using based google.com
Fuck off, redditor.

>>58205142
This site is proprietary though

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>>58205142

>>58205187
>>58205207
lmao. typical "free"tard

>>58204355
On that topic - is there a way in KDE to make certain programs always open to a specific workspace?

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Okay faggots, I decided to install Debian.

Convince me to install another distro instead, or I'll do it.

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>write shell script to get a random pic from /wg/ and set as wallpaper
>finally it works
>wallpaper is a desktop thread screenshot

>>58205283
why would I? what would i gain from doing so?
it's a lot better for me is you use that piece of shit "distro" since you won't be shitting up my distro instead.

>>58205293
kek

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>>58205303
>won't be shitting up my distro instead
And which distro would that be?

>>58205315
why are you so interested? wouldn't want your kind shitting it up.

>>58205315
i'm using arch, if it matters

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>>58205349
Just curious. I promise I won't shit it up.

>>58205357
>>58205372
yeah use arch it's a good distro for your pleb kind
i promise i'm using it too! please come and use it as well

>>58205420
arch linux. use it too friend! we need more of us to use it!

>>58205349
not sure if correct, but I guess you
- dislike freetards, gnu, debian
- think bash is a nigger shell
- use gentoo

how many hits?

>>58205443
one, i'll let you guess which one it is

>>58205471
damn, I'm bad with profiling 4channers ;_;

>>58205479
you should stick to reddit since that seems to be your area of expertise judging from your posts

>>58205490
ok bye

>>58205479
He is an A**tralian shitposter, He uses windows XP, he is insecure about being technically a bustard, (his mother cucked his dad) and he is on a mission to "destroy" GNU by shitposing in fglt.

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>>58205283
>>58205315
>>58205372
>>58205420
>that faggot pics

>>58205522
Mission accomplished.

>>58205554
""""mission"""" ""(((accomplished)))""

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

>>58205599
that , should be a ;

>>58205599
that is impossible, these threads should be permanently renamed to "hostile gnu/linux thread" because forcing people itt to be "friendly" just makes all the posts passively aggressive

>>58201018
what does it mean to make bootable USB

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Hey /fglt/, I want to try Debian, but I'm not sure if I should use stable, testing or unstable. What is recommended for the average user?

>>58205875
Start with stable as it won't break as often so less you have to troubleshoot.

>>58205862
You can boot from the USB image

>>58205911
why can't i just copy and paste the .iso on the usb

>>58205875
Stable

>>58205932
Because a seperate bootable partition may be required to boot certain live systems

>>58205875
you start with stable and if you need anything newer you think about upgrading to testing or unstable. remember to check if you need any proprietary drivers.

>>58205896
>>58205957
stable is ok IF all hardware is already supported. if you have i.e. a polaris GPU, you'd be better off with testing or unstable.

whats the point of antergos linux when the arch architect installer already exists

>>58206011
whats the point of architect linux when the arch archanywhere installer already exists

>>58206024
what is the point of arch linux when void linux already exists with an installer made by distro devs and not some pajeet

>>58201018
Is it possible to install only linux kernel on usb stick? If yes, what would i need besides kernel itself (maybe grub, systemd)? What would it look like if i boot it?

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>>58206042
>Void shills
They try so hard

>>58206042
>>>/pol/

anyone have trouble with wifi on x201? Mine seems to come on and off random times on fedora.

>>58206103
Possible IMO. But I don't know how to accomplish it.
With just kernel you can't do anything, even command like ls or cd wasn't there, so at least you need an init system, boot loader, and linux utils.

>>58206266
>linux utils

How is that command in linux that allows me to set fine grained access permissions for folders?
Basically i want to take the user Anon and give him read and list permissions for the folder /poop

>>58206291
and all of its subfolders of course

>>58206291
So you want to give Anon access to a directory? Is the folder already locked from everyone else?

>>58206291
>>58206296
GNU chmod, GNU chown

>>58206303
No, but i can just chmod it to 0000 if needed

Will I get the same settings on all of my programs if I just copy /home? It will be the same distro.

>>58206291
chmod and chown

>>58206978
Yeah.

If you're distrohopping all you have to do to move to another distro is wipe your / partition and keep /home.

And all your personal configs, browsing history, bookmarks etc etd will stay the same.

>>58206978
>>58206994
Bear in mind that if you don't have a user config for particular piece of software, the global config might be different between dsitributions.

>>58206994
>>58207002
Thanks.
It will be the same distro with mostly the same packages but I'll copy the global configs too.

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Does anyone do vala here? Do you prefer .typelib or .gir?

Is there an option to have GTK3 scrollbars show always?

>>58207338
In what application?

>>58207324
I'm going to steal this animated anime gif. Thanks anon.

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>try to get arch working in virtualbox because why not
>install virtualbox-guest-utils
>start up xfce4
>cant change out of 640x480

>>58207361
>virtualbox
stop being a babby

>>58207365
Wanted to get some practice before I possibly fuck something up and ruin my only computer.

>>58207345
I'd like to set it once in my user theme so all GTK3 programs don't drive me nuts with the disappearing scrollbars

>>58207361
Can you not use xrandr?

>>58207379
It's not possible to set scrollbar to show always

>>58207419
xrandr shows the only possible resolution as 640x480.

>>58207419
Oh well. GTK3 once again confirmed shit.

>>58207419
Looked up some info about xrandr. Didn't work.

>>58207497
what's your host? Did you try ARandR?

>>58207579
[spoiler]I'm not entirely sure what that means.[/spoiler]

>>58207675
Back to your subreddit

>>58207675
Your host operating system, also make sure that the virtualbox guest kernel module loaded properly, try rebooting if you haven't since you installed the guest additions.

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>>58207694
I'm trying to learn, at least.

>>58207728
er, pic related

>>58207751
I wasn't talking about you not knowing what "host" is in this context. that is neither a problem nor a reddit thing

>>58207776
I hit crtl+s and the message came up, "spoilers aren't on /g/ you fuckwit." I posted anyway. Is that what you meant?

>>58207751
Check the output of lsmod to see if the kernel module loaded properly, if not try loading it or reinstalling virtualbox-guest-modules-arch

>>58207813
What module am I specifically looking for?

>>58207795
"What I meant" should be clear to anyone not from reddit. To simplify for you - posting before lurking for x amount of time is a reddit thing to do, which is exactly what you did and this is proof that you are indeed a redditor. Also the "er" in your second post is the last thing needed to conclude your redditry (as if such a thing was even needed after your first post)

>>58207853
Summerfag of 2008. Never left since. My time on /g/ is limited though, you're right.

>>58207868
>My time on /g/ is limited though, you're right.
Why did you even feel the need to post this if it's incredibly obvious from your reddit attitude of posting before lurking?

>>58207847
Not sure never ran arch as guest, it must say vboxsomething, did you use the arch-anywhere iso? if so you probably already have yaourt, type yaourt virtualbox-guest-modules-arch and select the package

>>58207914
No, I used the one off the main site. I'll pacman yaourt and report results.

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>>58207914
>>58207946

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>>58201176
>Devuan but no Debian
>but there are other distros there with systemd
what

>>58207962
Follow the instructions here: https://archlinux.fr/yaourt-en

>>58207962
nevermind it's in the official repositories try installing it with pacman -S virtualbox-guest-modules-arch

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>firefox doesn't differentiate between lower case and upper case letters when choosing the default download directory
fucking sjws

>>58208003
Installing that worked, thanks!

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>>58208025
You're welcome

>>58201176
>arch
you need to leave /g/ and preferably end yourself.
>void
you need to leave /g/ and preferably end yourself.
>sjvuan
you need to leave /g/ and preferably end yourself.
>everything else
pretty good. you can stay.

>>58208051
Anything like that that I'll need to know when I install on live?

>>58208071
nah, just install it already

>>58208105
I'll pick up a USB disk to use as a bootdrive, I guess.

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>>58202253
I used Arch as my first Linux distro like a year ago now and it's not hard to use or install as a newbie and it shouldn't be possible to break it that easily. If it's constantly breaking, it's not even necessarily because of a lack of inexperience, as you are saying. It's definitely because of retardation.

But then again, we already know that if you were using Arch in the first place. After using it for a few months, I realized that having the same distro as all of the other autists isn't worth putting up with a subpar package manager, massive bloated packages, a severely autistic dev team, a severely autistic userbase, shoddy code in the few things the Arch dev team actually wrote, no packages without going to an insecure and user-maintained (and therefore largely unmaintained) repository of shell scripts that download source from git and make it, etc.

To anyone considering Arch:
By all means, try it out in a VM or on bare metal or whatever, but don't just blindly accept that it's the best because of /g/ memes. And the "you learn so much" thing is a meme too. Arch does practically everything for you, even compared to something like Debian. The installer doesn't really teach you much because when you install Arch you either:
1) Already know how to do all of the steps
2) Don't know all of the steps and are mindlessly copy pasting because there are no explanations of what the steps do on the wiki

And the installer is pretty retarded overall. It doesn't take more than 15 minutes (and that's including downloading all of the packages on my shitty internet) and it's easy as f if you have any idea what you're doing, but it could take 5 minutes. The Arch TUI interface installer was taken away so Archfags could be more eleet. Nothing about Arch installation benefits from the lack of a GUI or TUI installer. Archfriends constantly cite all of the increased freedom from the bare shell, but the installation process is currently just:
Holy fuck im nearing 2000 char

>>58201111
>quads of true

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>not using the most advanced operating system ever created

wew lad

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>>58208164
Is currently just:
2) partition
3) mount
4) fstab using a pre-written script that does it all for you
5) chroot using a pre-written script that does it all for you
6) download base packages using a pre-written script that does it all for you
7) install grub using a pre-written script that does it all for you
8) reboot

Literally none of this benefits from the lack of GUI/TUI installer, and the installation steps don't depend on your hardware because firstly all of these steps are hardware agnostic and secondly Arch only supports certain hardware in the first place. Only x86 and amd64? top kek

Regardless, the fact that the distro practically installs itself after you type a few commands is pretty much proof imho that the only reason for the CLI installation is that the Archfag elitists want to scare off newfags with a super spooky terminal when they boot up.

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>>58208248
Step 1 should have been to into the internet btw. I don't know what happened to it.

>>58208237
minix3 is still a bit beta

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>>58201176
>not including tacos

Y

>>58208248
It's funny because if you replaced GRUB with LILO you just described Slackware installation. Partitioning followed by all of those steps (except the chroot part, but that's just because it's unnecessary in reality), except that Patrick isn't retarded so he has a TUI installer to do it. And most distros' installation processes work in this exact same way, but they use GUIs and TUIs. And Arch used to work in this exact same way, using a TUI, and it worked fine until somebody on the forums suggested making the installation more special snowflake. Really makes you think.

>>58208274
Mac0s

>>58208261
>C_Data_Users_DefApps_AppData_INTERNETEXPLORER
leave, windows babby

>>58208425
Windows >>> linux
This is true and always will be.

>>58208425
see >>58208444

>>58208444
>>58208482
see >>58208425

>>58208489
see >>58208444 and >>58208482

>>58208574
reference >>58208489 then preform >>58208425

>>58208711
look at >>58208444 then substitute "windows" for "linux" at >>58208425 then perform the sentence

>>58208754
y-you too.

>>58208988
"me too" what? what are you even rambling on about?

I'm looking for a new distro. Currently running fedora 25, but I'm getting sick of having to upgrade every 6 months.

I'm a physicist - and I mainly need something that can run matlab/mathematica fairly easily. I also do a fair bit of python/c++ with openGL and GSL.

>>58209180
Arch Linux, Debian Unstable & Gentoo.

All of these distributions are rolling release and provide the software you require.

Does anyone else have issues with i3 crashing after resuming from suspend?
I'm running an i3 session in Xubuntu on a Thinkpad x230. I'm using the the ubuntu ppa for the most up-to-date version. I did a clean install and haven't messed with the config to see if maybe my past config screwed it up. The issue still exists.
When I resume, i3 hangs, then crashes to the login manager. Has anyone else experienced this? It happens every single time.

>>58209180
Each Fedora release is supported for 12 months

Test

>>58209504
watse your first post on >>>/b/ next time

How can i hide username in terminal
i want just to say machinename, not username@machinename

>>58209504
did it work?

>>58209553
very carefully

>>58209372
>ubunu
>ppa
just use debian and install it drom the official repos

>>58209733
>unironically using sjwbian
how about... no?

>>58209733
I'm mainly trying to determine if it's an Ubuntu issue, an i3 issue, or a thinkpad issue.
There's one person with a similar semi-closed issue on the github page, but their resolution did nothing to help me.
I have no desire to use debian. I'm almost considering doing an Arch install at this point (almost).

>>58209836
>I have no desire to use sjwbian
Good. It's scrub trash. Install based Arch

>>58209857
I really want "it just werks"
With i3 & ubuntu I'm getting a nice 13 hour battery life. All I use this thinkpad for is browsing and coding. I don't need bleeding edge, prone to breaking, rolling release Arch. If I could just fix this stupid suspend issue then it would all be fine

Is there a way to use only proprietary software on Linux? I'm can't stand the freeware crap it's trying to push but I want to try it out.

>>58209966
You can add and remove anything you want... Just add the proprietary shit you want and remove the free shit you don't

>>58210010
Nice. Thanks. Is there a way to check if something is freeware? I don't want any of it if possible.

I have chmoded a folder as 0444 and now when i try to cd into it, it says permission denied, why? I allowed everyone to read it, so why can i?

>>58210222
*can't

>>58210237
*deki nai

>>58209938
You've never used Arch, so you wouldn't know, so let me tell you: Arch is not prone to breaking.
Stop reciting memes.

>>58210258
good meme. off yourself djttard aka reddittard

>>58210222
you need to make it executable:
sudo chmod 7777 yourefile

>>58210222
is the folder executable, faggot?

>>58210346
how is my *original* post a "meme"?

>>58203682
wtf happen here?

>>58210383
>he clearly said the file is 0444
>"hurrr is it executable??????"
you are the faggot here

>>58210404
heh, did i hurt your feelings?

>>58210346
>djttard
what is that?

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>>58205875
CUTE

>using gnoo+lonux
>not using hurd+busybox

>>58210482
>using hurd+busybox
>not using windows

>>58210493
>using windows
>not using freedos

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>>58207751
>installing arch
>on virtualbox
>on windows
jackpot

is funtoo fun too?

>>58210557
no, arch is funnier

why is Arch so misunderstood?

>>58209553
There should be a "PS1=somethingGoesHere" variable in your .bashrc, change it to something like

PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[00m\][h] \[\033[00m\]'

or

PS1='\[\033[00m\]<\h> \[\033[00m\]'

depending if you are on Devuan/Debian or not.

>>58210557
2 fun 4 u

I am searching for the hacker that goes by the alias of "R.M.S".

>>58210390
your post >>58210258
is a shitty meme you should be ashamed for posting it and you should seriously consider suicide
>>58210419
someones who posts memes which are exactly like reddit memes but still denies being a redditor

>>58209553
modify your .bashrc.

There should be a line like

PS1='\u@\h | \w] '

remove the \u

>>58205875
install stable
realise that packages are too fucking old, some DE lack of features you are used to on other distributions, that old kernel and drivers makes your video games perforamnces not great
modify your /etc/apt/source.list to switch to the testing version.

>>58210583
>.nashrc
Sorry, I don't use nash.

>>58210576
Don't feed the retarded trolls just enjoy it like the rest of us
>>58210637
What's your shell?

>>58210637
Use GNU/Linux.

>>58210655
yeah, be a pleb like the rest of us

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>>58210637
>.nashrc
>nash

>>58210655
xsh
where x is something not equal to "na"
>>58210682
Epic reddit image. Could you explain what you meant by it though?

>>58210698
nigga you blind, there is no "na" on the post you were replying

there are things living in my head

>>58210733
what do you mean by this?

>>58210698
>le reddit meme
4chan made memes like these before ples like you came

kys

>not using based tcsh

>not using python shell

>not using based rc shell

>>58210698
edit your .xshrc file then

>>58210746
>an image predominantly used on reddit with a non-4chan file name is somehow not a reddit meme
>le
okay

>>58210752
>>58210767
>guys to i fit in yet/ XDDD

>>58210767
>python
sorry, i don't use trash.

>>58207377
>virtualbox
That's not how you test distros. Use liveCDs/USBs.
>practice
You mean, run once and never go back again.

>>58210802
it wasn't funny the first time you posted it and that hasn't changed. off yourself, redditor.

>>58210782
x is undefined here

>>58210862
nah, i'll look like some sort of retarded animal if i do that

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>>58210866

i have yet again proven my hypothesis about generals. i'm currently writing a paper on it

Would I be superior to all of you if I used LFS?

>>58210910
tell me about it

>>58210917
certainly not superior to me, but to most plebs yeah

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>>58210910

>>58210917
not for long

>>58210941
What OS do you use?

>>58210917
Use LFS to build something generic like ubuntu for ultimate special snowflake status