/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>58095158

>>58097682
Get an i5 6500, otherwise it's fine.

>>58097707
Thanks, for the reply. Bump
>>58097963
>>58097963

Do all vendor certified ram on asus z170 gaming pro boards have XMP profiles?

>>58097977
>>58098008

>>58098028
I know and i'm done with it, having nothing else sucks big time. The main reason why i'm asking is Zen vs. Sky / Kaby Lake and how long will each CPU probably last me.

>>58095575
>>58095750
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/LyqZXH

More or less what I have right now, mobo/ram are not quite right.
How does the 6GB of vram affect the rendering? I understand a more powerful GPU, but I've never really understood how VRAM plays a role.


Speaking of ram, would more ram be benificial to cadding software? I tend to hover around 60-70% of my ram utilitization on average.

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>>58097650

Is raidz really necessary for a torrentbox? Would a JBOD setup actually be better? Is risk of disk failure while rebuilding the pool overstated? I don't like the idea of losing a many TBs of data instead of just the few in a JBOD setup. Convince me raidz is the way to go.

>>58098354
I can vouch for EVGA.

I've been pushing a EVGA 560 to its absolute limits since 2012 and it's still working perfectly. Probably over 10k hours of high load in all those years.

Probably gonna get EVGA for my next card next year.

>>58098354
>asking /pol/
That's like asking Hitler about what his opinion is on menorahs

>>58098354
>sapphire at bottom
sauce, delet this, etc.

>>58098545
>sapphire at the bottom
Because it's ayymd. It's the best for Radeon cards though.

>>58098256
>>58098494
who likes my sleeper/fuckaround/LAN party box?

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>>58098354
>asking the double digit IQ club that is /b/ on anything
>asking the autistic children daycare that is /v/
>asking on /pol/ for technology
>Zotac is somehow bad
>Palit not listed, Gainward is Palit rebrand, somehow bad
>Sapphire is somehow bad
>EVGA listed as good after 1070/1080 literal VRAM Housefire™
Get off this board, now.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tyLmNN

Goal is a near-silent HTPC build for ultra lite computer work (max load would be watching a youtube video).

It's the second computer for my wife and I, and so needs barely any storage; can access other content via network share. It'll be in our lounge room as a media PC/stream box for the kids to watch online content and conntected to the TV.

>The 450SF has a 0 RPM mode, which I want to use, which is why I chose it over the Silverstone SF models

any feedback?

>>58098657
You might want to check out the Node 202 from Fractal for a good ITX case.

>>58098749
It also has the option to get it with a PSU, by the way.

>>58098657
>The 450SF has a 0 RPM mode, which I want to use, which is why I chose it over the Silverstone SF models
Dude.. don't. That's 130 bucks out the window. Just get the cheap Silverstone and you're good.
Also, if you want a slient system, the PSU is the least of your problems m8.

How does my completely silent gaming build look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hg4Ld6

>>58099018
The perfect build to play pong on DOS.

if i buy a mobo that supports 2133 ram but my ram is 2400 will it still work

>>58098162
The point is that you're comparing apples to oranges. Intels mobile "i5s" are actually underpowered desktop i3s.

An i5 6500 will last you forever as a office PC.

>>58098239
If you need more RAM just buy another 4GB stick. The other guy's advice is solid (Haswell i7 + new gfx card).

>>58100071
Yeah but it will run at 2133. 2400 might be supported natively by Kaby Lake CPUs

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7200rpm 3TB HDDs. Which one, friends?

>Toshiba
124.30 AUD

>HGST
195 AUD

Hi /pcbg/ this is not exactly about PC building but I need some advice. I need to buy a gaming laptop. Yes it has to be a laptop because I move a lot. No, I don't play demanding things like FPS, mostly rpgs and strategy and old stuff. But I need it to hold up dammit. So from my research it looks like an i5-7 with a geforce 960m, and most possibly an Asus since in my long years using laptops it's been the most solid brand by very far. I think I'm not being very retarded here but I'd appreciate any input you might have.

>>58100147
Hitachi is love, Hitachi is life

>>58100227
Build a mini ITX PC

Otherwise get a 10XX series laptop

>>58099288
I'm planning on playing some 1080p games at Ultra settings. It's just one part of the network.

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Seasonic ECO Series 430W 80PLUS Bronze Power Supply

or

Corsair VS 450W ATX Power Supply

or something else? this is for a low end mitx build, and i cant seem to find a psu thats decent price for low wattage

>>58100378
or this one seems good because of the gold rating, but doesnt have the power chord?

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/614339/Seasonic-350W-OEM-80PLUS-Gold-Power-Supply

>>58098354
ASUS is the shittiest brand on the face of this Earth. I've literally never had a motherboard branded ASUS that worked without issues, and my STRIX graphics card is currently in RMA. (And no, that's not two products, that's 11 different models of ASUS crapware.)

gigabite or asrock?

>>58100147
HGST has the lowest failure rate. Toshiba has the second lowest.

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Finished this build last week from begging and giveaways

>>58100378
>Seasonic vs. Corsair VS
Are you kidding? That is no comparison at all. Seasonic is orders of magnitudes better. The only time Corsair was ever good is when Seasonic made their PSU internals exclusively. Then they've started shitting out low quality crap like the CX and VS series...

>>58100520
Both are decent, but generally speaking, you get more features for the same money with ASRock, and Gigabyte is pissing me off personally, by habitually releasing a fuckton of revisions for the same model of motherboard.

>>58098354

>SNSV
>elite tier


I went from Asus to Gigabyte on my last build and immediately noticed a huge positive difference. Asus is just overprice ricer shit.

>>58100596
just asking, so basically seasonic = goat?

on that note, who made the corsair ax 760i? got that in my other pc.

>>58098354

>PNY
>Asus
>XFX
>EVGA

>good

wow. just fucking wow

if my pcparetpicker says 200w estimate (which i wonder how accurate that is) is a 350w psu enough? its "gold"

>>58100622
Anything that was made either by Seasonic or Superflower is god tier. The i series of Corsair PSUs are digital, and made AFAIK by Flextronics. Those are good. But the VS and CX series is just total garbage.

A new I5 4690k costs the same as a 6400 in my country.
Which one would be better for emulation + 60fps/1080p gaming when paired with a gtx 1060?
I feel like the 4690k would be better but it would come back to bite me in the ass in future upgrades because of mobo + ddr4.
What do you guys think?

>>58100378

Corsair PSUs suck. I stopped buying them after several failed on me. Then I went PC power and cooling which I found out was a subsidiary of Corsair. Fuck me.

>Always state the purpose of your PC
General use mid-line gaming computer: Lenovo desktop k330. I bought it around March 2011.

>If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.
The actual question is should I keep my i5-2300 intel CPU that came with the Lenovo desktop k330 and just upgrade my graphics card from Nvidia GTX 550ti to Nvidia GTX 1050ti?

>>58100644
Only makes the Quadro Cards for Nvidia. ASUS generally has good products but muh RMA maymay. xfx is good. EVGA is ok
Go back to .reddit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FHzV2R
thoughts and suggestions?

Just got a new 1060 and it has the same problem as my old amd card. Lots of games get rendered without any regard for the AA settings in the the NCP/CCC, just the game's settings, which seems to be more and more bare bones these days. I used a 3rd party workaround years ago but I can't remember what, it was AMD only as well, I think.

So how do you force AA in games when the "override application settings" option won't do it?

>>58100743
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/stVvD8
Get a 1080 Ti in January

I'm looking to move my rig from an antec 1200 to as small and minimal a case as possible.

I have a full ATX board that I can't replace unless I also upgrade CPU so I'd like it to be able to fit that.

The smallest reasonable I've been able to find are only mid towers.

So I've got around $2000 to blow on building a pc, first-time builder here. Thinking about going for a GTX 1080 with an I7 6700K, 8GB RAM and 2TB HDD. Not sure about case/PSU/mobo yet. Are those parts about where I should be aiming with 2k? Is getting 16GB of RAM a better idea, considering it's $50 vs $100 that I could instead spend on, say, getting a $50 better mobo?

I have a 300W PSU right now in my prebuilt machine. I was looking to do a simple upgrade of a graphics card since the integrated one is garbage. What can I put safely into the machine without risking safety. Eventually I intend to upgrade the power supply as well, but I'm taking this one step at a time.

I was thinking about the Radeon 460 Windforce since i heard it could run without too much power. This is the first time I'll be fiddling with this computer at all, so I'm not really sure what my options are.

>>58100847
ahh, of course, thanks

>>58100743
>windows 10

>>58100520
Gigabyte of course, Assrock is shit

>>58100652
Post it, fag

>>58100669
4690K would be better for emulation, plus you can OC
But a modern platform probably isn't much more.

>>58100686
Considering your PSU has a 6-pin power connector, you can get a better gfx card like an RX470 (make sure it only requires a 6-pin) or a GTX 1060. You might want the 1060 if the power budget is tight.

Replace the CPU with an Ivy Bridge i5.

If your mobo has a standard power connector, you could replace the PSU if yours is very low wattage.

>>58101052
The other real issue is that I have a $300 budget. I'm trying to get both of them if possible, but my priority is the graphics card.

>>58100788
You can fix this through the NCP
There's a "use applications settibgs" or "use global settibgs"

>>58100857
Sell everything and build new. Post speccy

>>58100871
Don't forget SSD. Your money would be better spent on a nice 1440p Gsync VA panel monitor

If you're getting all that for a 1080p monitor you are clearly a shithead who doesn't deserve his money

>>58101065
RX470 - $180 new
i5 3550 - $70 used
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=3550&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_osacat=164&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H1.X3550+3.3.TRS0&_nkw=3550+3.3&_sacat=164

>>58101052
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hfMWJV
ram is just 1x8gb stick, pcp doesnt list it though.

I probs wont even get the gpu honestly, i dont do much stuff but its just there as an estimate of power if i decide to upgrade in the future.

it feels kinda wierd spending this much on an i3 build, but ive been told theyre good enough, no gaming.

Again, gpu is there for estimated wattage for in the future only!

was gonna get a 350w gold seasonic

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>>58101122
>Sell everything and build new. Post speccy
Sounds like a really shit idea

>>58101164
Low wattage PSU is fine. That board doesn't have wifi

>>58101194
Eh, unless you got a golden chip and OC'd it, why not? You can get quite a bit of money if you live in a populated area and use it build mini ITX

Otherwise mid tower is basically what you're looking at

>>58101210
>That board doesn't have wifi
funny you should say, the next cheapest board was an asrock one for $165, so i was just gonna buy this https://www.ple.com.au/Products/619484/TP-LINK-WN725N-150Mbps-Wireless-N-USB-Nano-Adapter instead. should work right?

why does old tech like ddr3, hd7970's and 8350's barely change in price? Here in australia especially, my pc only decreased by $100 in value when its over 4 years old, according to pcpartpicker anyway

>>58101335
USB wifi isn't great unless you're in the same room as the router

>>58101355
Used prices are a lot lower. New 7970s aren't being produced, so they hold their value. For instance the occasional hacintosh fag buys them, or at least they used to

>>58101363
mPCIe wifi adapters are the same
So are cheap PCIe ones
Really you just get one with an antenna and you'll be good
They're all temporary fixes until you buy an Ethernet cable thoug

>>58101385
PCIe adapters can draw a lot more power. Whole different ballgame.

>>58101409
USB 3.1 can too, doesn't mean it won't be trash anyways

>>58100908
I guess I should say that the machine is the Inspiron 3847

Intel(R)4600 Graphics Card

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Processors

300W PSU

>>58101409
I've been using my PCIe Wifi adapter without much concern for power. But damn it was fast (for Wifi). Large antennaes, long cables, and placement makes all the difference. Damn near peaked at 700MB/s on a LAN connection.

>>58101363
cant get above 10mb/s anyway due to aussie internet. are they really that bad though?

>>58101427
Your reply was pointless, irrelevant, and factually incorrect

would a really old cd drive use todays sata+power combo thing? im talking 2005/6 drive here

>>58101440
Exactly my point

>>58101464
It's about the signal strength from the router / losing connection, not bandwidth

>>58100908
>>58101434
1050Ti, unless you want to get a better PSU as well, in which case you would definitely want a better gfx card. The 1050Ti is the best "prebuilt" card, so they charge a premium but it's definitely worth it to people who don't have PCIe power connectors

>>58101566
No, but you can get molex + IDE to SATA adapters. Not worth it.

>>58101122
1440p obviously

>>58097650
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Great" tier build
I have 240GB SSD in there by default, now.

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>>58101601
Neato

>>58101572
So if I were to add a 550W like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm, what would be a good, still relatively budget option for a graphics card? I'm trying to keep the upgrade under 300 or so dollars, so 150 or less for the Graphics card would be about where I'm looking.

>>58101572
ah kk, it probably would just be though 1 or 2 walls, so nothing major. my other wifi devices work with it

>>58101659
RX470, the extra $30 is worth it

>>58101481
If 100 watts and 1.25GB/S isn't enough to get wifi then your problem isn't the adapter

speaking of all this usb wifi, is it very cpu intensive? or is it basically negligable

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So I'm looking to build a new 1080p based system and salvage as much as I can from my previous budget build (Speccy included). Budget shouldn't go above $600 USD (possibly even $500) but I can salvage the case (ATX Mid), the PSU, a 212 Evo fan, and the HDD.

I checked the pcbg link in the OP and was wondering if it was worth it to replace the mobo for an Intel CPU, or instead, can I stick with my current mobo and CPU and not risk bottle-necking a new card like a RTX 470/480 or GTX 1060 and spend the money on a new display and SSD?

>>58101829
just get an a10 chip and a 470

>>58101828
Almost completely negligible
If you're permanently using wifi (why the fuck would you? But assuming you would) then get a dual band PCIe/mPCIe wifi adapter, a dual band router and an antenna or leads for an antenna
But if you just want your wifi to work, get a $8 USB wifi adapter and work on finding a big Ethernet cable

>>58101829
Unfortunately you can't use FX CPUs with that board (from what I read off gigabyte's site), so you definitely want to upgrade your mobo/CPU/RAM.

So you're looking at (at min)
>i3 6100 + B150 + 8GB DDR4
>240GB SSD
>Gfx card
>1080p 60Hz display ($50 used)

You can probably get $75 for your mobo+CPU+RAM

>>58101899
>get a dual band PCIe/mPCIe
Can't, he's on mini-ITX

I'm about to buy a z170 setup after having 10 year old 775-stuff. How much different is overclocking memory & cpu now? Is raising the FSB clock and having that boost both cpu and memory still a thing, or is that gone completely? I'm reading some conflicting information on how clocking memory works in relation to the FSB/whatever it is called now.

>>58101829
With your budget, you cannot get all six items, so you have to weigh the benefits of each path. Getting a new screen, new card, and SSD will do much more to improve your overall experience than getting new CPU, mobo, and RAM. Sticking with your current CPU means that you will be bottlenecking your new card in CPU-intensive games, but it will not be THAT big a bottleneck, as the 955 is still decent. Having a weaker CPU is something that you can live with until you can upgrade, and the new SSD will help make everything feel faster.

Is there such a thing as 1080p144hz IPS? My search leads me to think no, and I refuse to accept a TN panel. Considering 1440p144Hz, what is the projected performance if I were to get a 1070 to power it? Would I have to accept lower frame rate in a couple years? Even going that way and justifying $500-$700 for the monitor, I still am forced to take 27" instead of 24".

Can someone please illuminate this quagmire?

>>58101952
He can get a mPCIe wifi card though, that's what 100% of "onboard wifi" ITX boards use, they just wire an antenna plug to the I/O

>>58101997
A 1070 can run a lot of games at 1440p/144hz, and even more if you're willing to lower settings, but it can't play everything. It CAN basically play everything at 1440p/60fps though.
You refuse to buy a TN, that's your mistake and your money, TN panels have gotten great, and you can get 10-bit color with them (most panels including IPS use 8-bit) for reasonable prices
You can't get a high Hz IPS monitor for a reasonable price, that's just unrealistic 1080p or 1440p

>>58101997
Look into VA panels. You probably don't need 144Hz, but you definitely want more than 60Hz

>>58102012
His board doesn't have it. He's looking at an H110

>>58101990
>With your budget, you cannot get all six items,
Yes he can. 1080p monitors are a dime a dozen these days

>>58101997
1080@144Hz screens are all older models. You are most likely correct: They are all TN panels. If you want IPS@144Hz, you need to get 1440p, and it is quite pricey.

I am using a 1440p@144Hz screen right now, with an R9 290. It is fine for most mainstream games. Your 1070 will get 100+FPS in most games other than Witcher 3-tier stuff. You will still get ~60FPS in Witcher 3, but that is not really making the most of your 144Hz screen.

>>58102012
would that require soldering?

its good to know its almost negligable. I really dont need fast speeds though, as 10mb (1.2MB) is the fastest available to me

>>58102095
They have lead screws

>>58102053
New card: $200
New screen: $150
New SSD: $80

That is $430 already. Seeing that the fellow is budget conscious,
>Budget shouldn't go above $600 USD (possibly even $500)
it would be better if he saved the remainder until he has enough for an i3 ($120), mobo ($80), and RAM ($40). Maybe the Zen stuff will be cheaper.

Of course, if he can get the card/screen for much cheaper than what I put up there, then he can make it fit.

>>58102095
But like anon said, make sure your board actually has a mPCIe slot

>>58101884

Why the A10 if I'm getting a 470? For the increased CPU clock speed? Just a bit confused since I don't know much about the A10 APU thing.

>>58101952

Yeah, I knew that if I wanted Intel, I'd have to switch boards. It'd be nice to upgrade to DDR4 from DDR3. Thanks for the suggestions.

>>58101990

I'm definitely feeling that tug to upgrade now, but was fearing that was the case, or at least was close to the case. I think if I had to pick parts, I'd go screen, card, and SSD too, but thanks for giving me a second opinion on it.

>>58102053
>>58102146

I may be able to get the card for cheaper through discounts, but not by much (Looking at the 470 and the Gigabyte version is $180 because of Prime on Amazon). Screen could also be less pricy too. But yeah, I feel stuck doing one or the other all the same.

>>58102160
yeah it doesnt, oh well. i honestly doubt its gonna be much of an issue

>>58102265
because its the best cpu you can get for the socket, although if its the am3 socket there might others. 8350s are way too expensive to run, so dont do it imo.

could just replace the board and get an i3. but that means replacing the ram ie saving almost nothing but your old case, which youll wanna replace for looks probably

>>58102304
Usb is fine until you get a cable

>>58102265
If you live in even a moderately populated area you should be able to get a great 23" - 25" 1080p 60Hz monitor for $50 off craigslist, in which case you can get everything for less than $600.

I got a AOC 2330V for $50 about 6 months ago on a whim.

>>58102304
I don't think his board will run new APUs. It seems to be AM3 only

>>58102373
oh if its not + then he probs shouldnt keep anything, just sell it for a quick buck

>>58102265
>Looking at the 470
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137050

I've had my PSU for like 8 years, and I'm about to upgrade almost everything in my computer. Should I get a new PSU?

>>58102304
>>58102373

Yeah, my mobo is AM3 socket currently, so most of the AM3+ stuff wont work without some weird peg based, bios-demon summoning voodoo.

>>58102445

Thanks for the link, hopefully the MSI version is alright.

After thinking about it, the easiest route is to just replace the GPU, then add a new screen and an SSD for now, and save the rest up for preparation to switch to a better mobo / chipset and Intel CPU. Thanks for all the help /pcbg/.

>>58102589
if you can just update the bios to use am3+ do it then, but i think upgrading a pc is almost always a bad idea. what you need to do is use it till its dead and dusted sell it and start again.

of course ram upgrades are g, but most of the time its not worth it. Shame they keep changing the socket type

Anyone have some links to some good PC building guides for COMPLETE ignoramuses like myself?

I'm quite poor and so afraid of messing this up.

>>58102637
A lot of the higher end boards that originally were shipped as AM3 could be flashed to AM3+ (like my 990).

I like the idea of upgrading over time. This board has a 4300 that I replaced with a 6350. I'll probably upgrade to an 8350 after Zen gets released. After selling the 6350 the upgrade will probably cost me 15-20USD for a 33% theoretical upgrade in CPU power.

I'm hoping that my Hyper 212 Evo will get an AM4 adapter kit, so that I'll have one fewer consideration when I'm deciding between 1151 and AM4

>>58102734
is zen confirmed am3+? if it is i might upgrade too... perhaps this means we'll get some new matx boards at last...

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>>58102746
>is zen confirmed am3+
No, AM4.

>>58102637

Unfortunately this one didn't get that luxury. If it was a higher revision of my mobo. Mine, I think, is one revision model right before my mobo got am3+ support. (1.4 compared to 3.1). Sucks.

>>58102734

Taking a look at Gigabyte, my board has hardly gotten support since 2009, but then again, I think my board was budget back when I got it instead of high end.

>>58102767
really? what benefits does am4 have?

>>58102556
Quality PSUs work for a long time, then die quietly. Some of the best quality PSUs have 10 year warranties, so you getting 8 years is good. If the PSU is not giving you any trouble, keep it till it dies.

>>58102913
Can't it go out with a bang and fuck my entire system up though?

>>58102912
It's not gay

>>58102912
>Native PCIe Gen 3.0 support
>no hot-as-fuck NB
>DDR4 support

>>58102927
Low quality PSUs do that, but they do that a lot earlier than 8 years. If you have a low quality PSU and you got very lucky with it living for 8 years, then change it for sure.

Also, if you are wealthy and can afford to replace a working item for something new just for peace of mind, you can get a new PSU as well.

>>58102942
ah i didnt know 3+ didnt support ddr4. no wonder amds sales are shit for cpu right now

>>58102932
i thought amd was the choice of lesbians

>>58102957
holyshit the falcon is still here... its been like 6 years, do things ever change?

>>58102957
Not sure if it's considered high quality or not. It's a corsair tx 750w, apparently only had 5 year warranty.

>>58103145
The original TX?
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/tx750w
This one is lower quality. Worth replacing after 8 years.

Or the V2?
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/tx-series-tx750-80-plus-bronze-certified-750-watt-high-performance-power-supply
This one is quite good. I bought the 650W version back in 2011 or 2012, and it is still working fine.

>>58103020
Yeah, and still doing the same things.

>>58103192
can i ask why? i mean sure people appreciate you for it, but what about the rest of your life? or is this a sole hobby?

>>58103192
It's the original. Worked perfectly, though sometimes when I turn the computer off, the PSU fan keeps spinning for a good 5-10 seconds, even if I cut the power completely.

What PSU would you recommend if I don't mind paying a bit extra for reliability? Computer is going to run Z170, 1 GPU, and 3 sata drives.

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Making a computer for college, should last me all 4 years, is this good? I already have all the peripherals.

Also, what should I run? I'll be gaming/working on this, so I was thinking about pirating windows 7?

>>58103253
This is not the only thing: I am a programmer, and doing my Masters as well.

>>58103257
If you are looking to get quality stuff:
Corsair RMx and RMi are good. HX and AX are great.
EVGA G2 is good. P2 is great.
Seasonic G-series is good. The Platinum-series stuff is excellent. The new Prime line (titanium efficiency) is probably the highest quality consumer stuff you can get, but it is extremely pricey.

>>58103334
>8gb of overpriced ram
>1060
>Z mobo with non k
>480gb ssd
>bronze psu for that price
>gaudy case

>lasting 4 years
>college
what does "computer for college" even mean

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/sqt/ is slow so hope y'all don't mind me asking here.

Is there an easy/easier way to wipe an OS from an SSD and use it as storage? Or are those dumb BIOS setups the only way?

>>58103334
Switch to DDR4 RAM.

>>58103350
whats your masters in? what about job?

>>58103362
>8gb of overpriced ram
Honestly just going off http://www.logicalincrements.com/, what ram should I get instead?
>1060
What's wrong with 1060? Should I get 1070 instead?
>Z mobo with non k
er not sure what that means...
>480gb ssd
Yeah, probably excessive, 220 gb and 1 tb harddrive would be better, right?
>bronze psu for that price
ah shit, what psu should I get instead?
>gaudy case
I disagree
>computer for college
basically gaming, working, programming, leisure...
>>58103389
Is DDR4 worth it?

>>58103381
I usually use a bootable linux thumbdrive like ubuntu and use gparted to change stuff.

>>58103381
gparted live usb, google the rest

>>58103403
if you dont know what it means google it.

dont just saay "for college" thats possibly the broadest description, you could be an engineer or designer who needs heaps of gpu rendering power, or a business student who needs pdf and word capabilities.

seriously do more research you underage roach

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Hello guys. I need your opinion on Asus Z170-P motherboard. Logicalincrements recommends it as suitable solution for midrange i5, is it really worth buying? Also I's it okay if only half of power phases are covered with heatsink?

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I have an Alienware X51 R1 from 2012.

I want to migrate to a custom PC build.

How much of it can I salvage?

How much of it should I salvage?

>>58103435
this isnt sqt, at least give us more info.

>>58103403
>Is DDR4 worth it?
That is not the issue: DDR3 is not compatible with that mobo.

>Honestly just going off http://www.logicalincrements.com/
If I am recommending incompatible RAM+mobo, I will tear my hair out.

>>58103408
>>58103411
Danke.

>>58103424
Oh well I'm an engineering student. Also asking you guys is part of my research
>>58103446
Oh shit, fuck me then, thanks, almost fucked myself

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>>58103441
Right.... Here you go.

>>58103459
>Also asking you guys is part of my research
research isn't begging for answers.

>>58103334
Buy DDR4, not DDR3
Get an i5 6500
and a full sized 1060
and a case without excessive optical bays

>>58103381
I would try putting it in a SATA external case and then formatting. Haven't tried it, though

>>58103446
>If I am recommending incompatible RAM+mobo, I will tear my hair out.
You know you're not, m8. Don't try to act like there's any chance you'd have to take yourself up on that oath

>>58100950
yep, problem?

>>58103480
>i7 l33t
>gtx555

whew

you can just upgrade the gpu, nothing would bottleneck. maybe get a less gaudy case.

>>58100847
was this list all suggestions for me or as that your list?

>>58103480
Update gfx card
Get SSD
Get new monitor

>>58103518
obviously suggestions

>>58098841
Australia sux m8, the Silverstone is only $20 cheaper

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OK so I tried to unfuck my shit up, what do you guys think of this build? Again, I'm going to be using this for gaming and engineering stuff like programming or 3D modeling etc.

>>58103696
Not bad if you're planning to upgrade to an unlocked i7, but the case is way too big. Also it seems like the PSU, RAM, and SSD are slightly expensive for what they are

>>58103504
>>58103520
>new gpu
>ssd
>new case
Thanks. The case really pisses me off too.

>>58103721
Damn, should I go for a mid-sized tower? Also I don't mind the price, this is a gift and what I have right now is at budget.

>>58103426
Help plox.

someone redpill me on pico psu.
are they a good option for building a fanless system?

>>58103730
Definitely need that monitor

>>58103739
Yeah

>>58103810
I looked into them at one time. Seems pretty cool if you don't mind a power brick flopping around

>>58103874
I don't.
I'm just wondering whether they're safe to use or not. they seem housefirey.

Is this case a good case?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119314&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-VigLink2-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=8167422&SID=iwyntng9xu0035wt00053

(sorry about the long ass link)

Also, RX480 8gb or 6gb gtx 1060?

>have 295x2 for about a year
>radiator fan recently started making a ticking noise
>VRM fan now starting to make a loud whirring noise
>the room this computer is in is always considerably warmer than any other room in the house
>trying to update or even fresh install newer drivers always results in failure with no error message
man what the fuck

>>58104129
Why would you buy that thing?

>>58101647
what is the context to this photo?

>>58104261
It's all contained in the photo.. the cheerleader at a high school basketball game just did some trick

>>58104261
>>58104277
Or maybe that's college, probably college

>>58097650
are the 1070s getting cheaper any time soon? Hesitant to spend 630+ bucks if they're gonna drop by any noticeable amount soon.

>>58104345
Also, what is the best 1070? Was thinking of the Gigabyte G1. Anyone had any experience with it?

>>58103946
Seems like a decent budget case. Enough room for fans, but based on a couple reviews they have stopped supporting the case, so if you wish to buy extras or whatever they're doing for a 'modular case' you'll be disappointed.

As for the graphics, personally I'd go 1060 6GB. But in all honesty the performance difference is miniscule, probably 5% performance difference, going up or down depending on the API. Go with what you feel comfortable spending the money for, they're both solid choices at this point.

Keep in mind G-Sync has a hefty premium if you ever wish to opt into A-Sync monitors, however.

>>58103497
As in "with frustration". But yeah, I checked, and am fine.

>>58103696
If you are still here:
-G1 -> G2 if possible. They should be the same price.
-RAM ->8GB, and SSD -> ~500GB is a better option than 16GB RAM and 240GB SSD.

>>58104345
>>58104356
1070's should be ~$400 now, and widely available at that price. Most of the big names (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus) have excellent units for that price. The only one with an issue (iirc) is one particular EVGA unit, which explodes when under stress. Avoid that one, unless you want to take it apart and add the thermal pads they are giving as a fix.

>>58104633
I'm Australian which is why it costs so much desu. the cheapest 1070 here is 580ish. Sorry I should have specified that in my op.

>>58097650
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wLTyHN
which mobo should I get with this build?

>>58104657
asrock extreme 4 and switch that ram out for corsair 3600mhz

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fv96NN

I got hit by a road grader and injured, check is coming. How does this look goys.

>>58104646
Check out the 1070s that are in your price range, and find the reviews for them. Or post them here.

>>58104760
Extremely poor choice on that Kingwin fan colour. Yellow? Really?

>>58104760
garbage
one 34 inch monitor is overkill enough let alone 3
get another one if you really think you will need it, i'd personally sli another 1080 desu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6MhHqk

>>58104200
Because /g/ recommended it and it was quite heavily discounted at the time. Love the performance, but this thing has been a bigger hassle than I expected, considering the price.

Guess I'll try to sell it and put the money towards a 1070 or something. It's a real shame AMD has no high-end offerings.

>>58104850
>Because /g/ recommended it
/g/ has never been pro dual-GPU cards. Not the 5970, 6990, 7990, 690, Titan Z, or 295 x2. Dual-GPU cards have been consistently bad for at least 6 years.

>>58095158

>>58105004
To drop 100 Yurokurrency, switch to an i3. Alternatively, drop a stick of RAM, and switch to a cheaper SSD.

I would get a better PSU, for your budget. That PSU is for lower-tier builds.

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nice video game consoles you have there :^)

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someone build me a PC for lan parties pls

something I can take to my friend's place every weekend


under $2000, don't need peripherals

>>58105075
Look at mITX builds, or try a laptop.

>>58105075
mitx m8

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what directories should I be looking to copy over to my new pc to keep my game saves and such?

any other tips for the big move? here's an image I saved when I got this pc

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YN8NYr

decent?

>>58105038
Will i3 be strong enough?
Can you recommend me a good psu? (had this before: Cooler Master 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply but I've been told it's a overkill and fully modular isn't really needed).

As for ssd here is a cheaper one (50€ Toshiba Q300 (15nm) 120GB) does have less GB but won't matter since I'll use it only for my OS right?

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How is this for a NAS build? Realistically I'm going to just re-purpose an old work computer but playing around with building a new one is fun too.

Any suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFQJpb

Can someone ease my mind about RAM voltages against motherboard specified voltage?

I plan on putting four of the same 1.25V 4GB RAM sticks on a 1.5V motherboard (the RAM capacity is fine)... that's not gonna fuck anything up is it?

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Lads I think I fucked up

I got an RX 460 and completely ignored the fact that my monitor is VGA and the RX 460 doesnt have a VGA port.

No big problem I thought, just get an adapter right? Well I'm looking into them now and it looks like they don't support 1366x768 for some reason (which is my shitty monitors resolution.

I found one that lists 1360x768 as supported, but not 1366. Do you think it will support it anyway? Maybe it is just listing 1360 because it is more popular?

The only alternetive I have is to have my monitor in 130x768 res, but it makes everything just blurry enoughto hurt my eyes.

Is there a way to have my monitor display 1360x768 as a native resolution? So that it does not stretch the image?

>>58105719
1. Get a new monitor. Seriously they are not expensive.

2. Use a TV as a monitor in the meantime.

3. Donate your old crappy monitor to a church or public school.

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Anyone have any experience with the NZXT Phantom 820? The headroom it lists in the specifications for the CPU cooler is too small for the one I'm buying, but in parentheses right beside that limit, it lists a larger limit "without fan".

I assume this means the fan is easily removable?

>>58105752
>1. Get a new monitor. Seriously they are not expensive.

I'm poor man, I'd happily do that if I could but I can't at least for another month or 2.

>2. Use a TV as a monitor in the meantime.

My TV is too big and fat for that.

>3. Donate your old crappy monitor to a church or public school.

Fuck that I'd sell it when the time comes.

Is there no way to run a lower resolution without stretching then? I can deal with 3 black lines on each side of my monitor for a while, can't really handle the blurriness though.

>>58105752
>1. Get a new monitor. Seriously they are not expensive.
...dude he bought an RX460 for a reason, guy is probably broke.

What do you guys think aboutthe MSI GS60 2QE for 450 euromoney?

>>58105255
Decent overall. For the price, I would expect a better mobo and higher SSD capacity.

>>58105485
i3 will be fine, especially considering your budget. Cheaper SSD should not be 120GB, but ~240GB or higher. You will put your OS, games, and frequently used programs on the SSD, so 120GB is quite small.

>>58106557
I'll keep it in mind, what PSU would be good for my build?

>>58100324
Thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myWpQV

Thoughts?

Do i upgrade to a Benq XL2411Z or gtx 1060 first? Currently running a gtx 960.

Should I get the ASUS z170 pro gaming or the Asus z170-A? They're the exact same price.

>>58107373
For what fucking purpose? That's 2.6k of autism.

>>58107560
I play video games professionally and I need a reliable setup.

>>58107555
Checked. Both are good, if you don't mind the features/OC capabilities get the cheaper.

>>58107572
What kind of games and do you stream?

>>58107665
But they're the EXACT same price. I need to pick 1.

>>58107684
CSGO mostly, but maybe some BF1 in the future.

>>58107686
Personally i'd get the Pro Gaming is meme this may sound, but this board OCs better than the Z170-A.

>>58107692
>CSGO
Jesus fucking Christ. You're overpaying like $2k. If CSGO is all you play and BF1 is a question mark, then don't spend over $1k.

>>58107733
>just buy a computer for today, don't worry about tomorrow!
Retard logic. If you have the budget, spend more. It'll last longer and you won't be pissed about having to upgrade in a year

>>58107760
nigga, it's csgo

You don't need anywhere near that to run 144fps AND stream it with your webcam and overpriced mic.

>>58107771
Who says that's what he'll be playing a year from now? That said, SLI is retarded, that HDD is retarded, and that power supply is full on double nigger retarded

>>58107760
It's CSGO. That shit runs on a G4400 + RX460.
You want a $2.6k i7-6700K + fucking SLI 1070 for a stupid shooter that runs on the valve engine. Even for 144FPS, don't get anything above i5-6600K + single 1070.

>>58107373
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/myWpQV

Never go SLi if you can go better single gpu, that's the rile of thumb

>>58107804
Yes, we know, CSGO is the only game ever and ever will be. By that logic, I should still be running my P4 and 9800 Pro because I still play 1.6 a lot

>>58107824
I asked him what he want from his build, he said CSGO and maybe BF1 in the future.
If he wants 1440p 144fps a 6600K + single 1070 or 1080 is all he needs. There is not a single argument to get the build he made, there just isn't. His build is pants on head retarded.

>>58104261
>>58104277
>>58104288
It's a high school. covcath.org

>>58107846
he doesnt have ssd

>>58107875
Then he's even more of a retard. $2600 PC that's slow as fuck doing basic tasks.

>$200 copy of Windows 8 PRO

It's got to be bait anyway.

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>>58107804
>mfw I'm also planning to get a 6700k + 1070 build for tf2 and see this anon's rage

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>>58108162
>mfw you're just as retarded as mac fags who spend four digits on their facebook machine

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>>58108204
>tfw you spent $800 on a faplet

Money well spent kek. I'm pretty sure other retards have done far worse with thier money.

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Tell me it isn't the most flawless upgrade you've ever seen.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xGNMM8

MSI GS60 2QE for 450 euromoney? thoughts?

question, i5 vs i7 and whats the difference between the k and sans k?
for gaming, cad. programming type of work

>>58108933
>please spoon-feed me i'm too stupid to google
Fuck off.

>>58108933
i7 has hyperthreading(and is clocked a little higher), so anything that can efficiently use more than 4 cores(like CAD and compiling, games not so much) will benefit from one. The k models are clocked a little higher and can be overclocked1. They're probably2 not worth getting over non-k models unless you're planning to overclock them.

1Locked Skylake CPUs can also be overclocked via increasing the base clock(as opposed to increasing the multiplier, which is how overclocking is usually done), but only with specific motherboards and with specific versions of the BIOS. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, though.

26600k isn't really good value over 6500 or 6600. 6700k is debatable, since it's only like $10 more than the non-k version so if you're already paying $300+, it's only marginally more expensive.

>>58100227
>>58100324
Yeah, with gaming laptops you will want something as current as possible. Because once it is depreciated in power (which will happen very fast, like 3 years) you have no way of upgrading it.

>>58100499
I have an asus z97-a. Works pretty good. Does what it should. Literally nothing to complain about.

>>58106557

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CLxzXH

Better?

>>58109035
Hyperthreading is not more cores

>>58102724

https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>>58109035
>spoon-feeding a lazy retard
>being so retarded to think cores equal threads
>6600K isn't really good value over 6500 or 6600
The definition of tech illiteracy.

>>58109173
Need a1440p monitor too

>>58108529
>no SSD

>>58105719
A 1080p monitor is like 50 bucks used

>>58109802
Already have an SSD.

I'm planning on ordering a 1070 is ASUS the best make to go with?

>>58109802
>A 1080p monitor is like 50 bucks used

I have literally £4 to feed myself for the next 2 weeks, I'm fucking poor mate.

Is there a way to set a resolution of 1360x768 on a 1366x768 monitor without it stretching?

I just want the 3px black border on each side, I thought that would be easy enough to do but I can't figure it out, mainly because I'm not even sure what the name of what I want is.

>>58110388

>I have literally £4 to feed myself for the next 2 weeks, I'm fucking poor mate.

So your priorities are shit. I guess that was obvious from your problem in the first place.

Over the last month I'd been putting a desktop together. I finally got it up and running on Saturday.

- ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger motherboard
- Intel i7-6700k cpu
- EVGA GTX 1080 HydroCopper gpu
- 16gb DDR4 RAM
- 256gb M.2 ssd
- 2tb HDD
- Full loop water cooling, aquacomputer & hardwarelabs mostly. EK cpu block.

I built it to play Planetside 2, Star Citizen, War Thunder, Squad, things like that.

I've been fucking around now for a few days just trying to get some fairly basic shit working under Linux. Is this indicative of what my entire Linux experience is going to be like? I haven't even begun trying to set up WINE or a VM for gaming yet.

Do I stick with it? At what point is it just not worth it and I should just install windows 10?

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>>58105075
Here's the build I'm finishing. I have everything on an matx case and mobo, swapping to these parts. All I need to get is the mobo and the case, the rest I have but it's a super solid build and way below your budget friendo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M3cXVY

>>58110501
I have some food already so I'm not starving, and I have already bought the HDMI to VGA adapter.

How does that make my priorities shit? They would be shit if I was starving myself to buy a new monitor I shouldn't need like you suggested.

>>58110779

They're shit because you have no money at all right now and you obviously don't have any more coming in for another two weeks.

If you don't have one months living expenses in your bank account at all times you're just doing things wrong, regardless of what your income level is.

Piss poor financial management like yours is basically the reason capitalism doesn't work for poor people. Too bad at making responsible choices and decisions.

SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

OR

EVGA 100-W1-0500-KR

OR

Corsair CX500

It's for this build desu


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kwVV2R


It's mostly stuff i already had but i lack the powersupply.

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>>58110721

Pic related, btw.

MSI GS60 2QE for 450 euromoney?
REEEEEEEEE

>>58110868
I'm NEET scum, my income is £250 a month, how on earth am I supposed to have one months living expences in the bank?

If I was talking about spending tons of money then fine, but I'm talking about a FREE solution to my problem and you're suggesting I just buy a new monitor so I don't understand your logic.

>>58111974

I'm not the one that suggested you buy a new monitor.

Where does your 250 cuckbuck a month income come from if you're neet scum? Allowance from mom? The government?

>>58110953
>Corsair with anything CX in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-p-l8pYQH0

>>58112134
>The government?

Yes.

Also "cuckbux" is pretty funny coming from the wageslave

So this isn't a build of my own, but rather a build that I planned for a friend. All he really does is play league and run chrome, so it only has to compete against his 2012 laptop that he gets 19fps on. Most of the components are either preowned by me or salvaged from his dying laptop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gRvrqk

>>58112652
Don't unnecessarily throw money at this build, get the cheapest shit available. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F6dLd6

>Always state the purpose of PC
Want to learn some programming languages, do some programming, normal Web browsing

>Budget
$750 (but the less the better)

>What I want changed
I wanted to see if there was any way to make the cost go down but for the performance to go up, while sticking with reliable brands.
If it can't be done, just have the price go down with the specs going down as little as possible

>current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/63hBGf

>>58113484
>Want to learn some programming languages, do some programming, normal Web browsing
None of that warrants a discrete GPU.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XXWkHN I use it for gaming and streaming. I'd like to improve gaming performance, since I'm 1080 ATM I haven't tested higher, I'd also like to be able to do ALOT of coding on it

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>>58113524
I'm dumb this is build pic

>>58113520
So I should take out the GTX 1050?

>>58113484
Hmm I'd say maybe just get a EVGA supernova 550 gold PSU instead of that bronze one, price difference is like $10

>>58113550
Yea you don't need it if your not gaming. Integrated should be enough for you

>>58113484
Ditch the GPU and upgrade the CPU to the budget limit, and get gold PSU not bronze. Other than that you should be good

>>58109014
hahahha, no.

>>58109778
>being lazy enough to comment how lazy someone else is and not just answer the question if its so easy

Is i3 6100 and gtx 1050ti a good combination?

>>58113911
>>58113933
>t. butthurt tech illiterates
>>>/v/

>>58112972
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F6dLd6
that makes it more expensive, and without the wifi that it needs

>>58113994
That is cheaper, but nevemind. If you need wifi, stay with the mobo, but get cheaper RAM.

>>58113933
hey, not everyone can just sit on 4chinz and the internet all day, got things to do during the day

>>58113986
1. trying to learn some new shit from other poeple instead of just reading an article that i have no idea if its accurate or not. experience based info is much more helpful
2. i know i can ask a question like this and have it answered rather quickly here while i go about my daily business, so its kind of convenient to do, even if you think its stupid.
3. in the end someone answered andi got my answer, so..... it worked out in the end in my favor?

>>58114098
>question, i5 vs i7 and whats the difference between the k and sans k?
The answer can be found on Intel's site. Takes ONE minute to google.

what's the best way to troubleshoot motherboard/psu/cpu issues? my desktop started having a problem where turning it on would rarely work, only after I unplug it and let it sit for several hours unplugged will it turn back on. not sure what component is failing here.

>>58110721
Well, As someone else who's basically played all of those, you're going to probably want to try and get Windows 7/8/10, depending on preference i guess.

I used to have a mac which used WINE to play all of my windows steam games on it, but wine inherently has flaws which can make games break, mostly relating to improperly installing drivers and missing corefiles, these carry over to linux as well when i tried them. If you can put the effort into it and prefer the look of linux, go for it, you'll likely be able to do more, but if you simply want to game get Windows and just rice it, you'll get about the same looks at better native performance.

>>58103426
there are a few variants.
Z170A is also good

also gigabytes z170 UD3

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA1151-Intel-Motherboards-GA-Z170M-D3H/dp/B012N6ESTC?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Z170-A-ATX-DDR4-Motherboards/dp/B012NH05UW

i picked up a UD5 (not much different from the UD3) during a sale. the reason i bought it is because of the power phases, i wanted a stable overclock without fear of breaking anything. (im new to this and i dont want to buy things twice)

but the Asus and gigabyte boards seemed well reviewed.

Thoughts/comments please.
friends first pc ill be giving him my old case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BRvQcc

>>58112472

Any here he is boys, a perfect example of the failings of Western civilization.

Sorry NEET, throw the term wageslave around all you want but my monthly income is ~5x yours, and I can quit my job whenever I want with more in the bank than you've had maybe in your entire life.

I can afford a monitor or a new GPU without having to worry about being short on cash for a new cable or something stupid like that.

You're a burden on society and should be left to homelessness.

>>58114169

Fuck, kind of what I was afraid of. I just don't know at this point if I should go through the effort of getting a VM set up with pci passthrough or if I should just wipe everything and set up a dual-boot situation.

I don't prefer anything about linux besides it not being controlled by Microsoft and the opportunity to learn some new OS skills.

>Recently replaced PSU from budget EVGA 500w 80+ to Supernova G2 500w modular 80+ gold
>a couple days later suddenly my OS is fucked, have to boot in safe mode most of the time, would always restart, etc
>eventually can't do anything without BSoD
>try to reinstall OS (win 7), gives me errors installing to my SSD
>install Ubuntu instead, works fine except for a few graphics drivers bugs

Is there any way that swapping my PSU would somehow fuck up my SSD, or do I need a new one at this point?

>>58114686
>You're a burden on society and should be left to homelessness.

this makes me sad. im also a neet, but i think i have psychological problems and social skills that were stunted at a young age from childhood trauma and years of stress... homelessness worries me as im stuck in a permanent state of depression.... what worries me more is knowing people dont care. that they would see me as a burden and wish for me to disappear when ive tried my best to stay out of the way.

>>58114146
k. have fun calling people stupid. no worries on my end.

>>58114630
remove $30 from your PSU and put it into your GPU

>>58114705
I've tried dual-boot before, and to be honest i'll tell you that if you want to go for that, do it BEFORE you start using either of your OS's. It's not particularly hard, just fiddly, and will probably work better than otherwise cuz you can launch your windows for gaming and linux for whatever else you want.

Don't ever try to dualboot with a macintosh, despite owning one it is the most fucking difficult thing i've ever encountered in my life, even the tool they provide is a piece of shit that doesn't let you do it in the best of situations

>>58114705
I also forgot to mention that WINE will not like DX12, at all. i've been there, and sometimes it will work fantastically, other times it will just shit itself and you actually have to rebuild the wrapper for it to be able to play again.

>>58114775

It's obvious from your post that your "psychological problems" are 100% self diagnosed and you're just using them as an excuse for your personal failings. Even if you do have genuine psychological hurdles to overcome, you're still obviously using them as an excuse.

Childhood trauma and years of stress? Nigger do you really thing your story is unique? Do you really think your struggles were truly adverse? Do you honestly believe that anything you've been "subjected" to in your short and comfier than most life excuses the way you've chosen to live it. It IS a choice.

You're worried about being homeless and that's why you're depressed?

No, you're depressed because you recognize your own helplessness and you're too fucking useless to do anything about it. You're depressed because you KNOW you're a burden. "People like me" don't see you as a burden, you ARE one. I don't give a fuck whether you disappear or not, I just don't want to carry your weight.

>>58100593
Thanks for kek.

I hope you have a good Xmas and new year.

>>58114811

Dual-booting really does sound like a pain in the ass, and honestly I'll probably skip that option entirely. I'll give Ubuntu until the end of the week and if I can't play a fucking game by Saturday or Sunday I'm going to try all over again with Arch / Antergos. I'll give that another week and if by the following Saturday I'm not playing games the Linux community can suck my cock and I'm going back to using Windows.

3 weeks is long enough.

>>58114874
i hope one day i can be so productive that i can forget my current state and treat people in my position horribly. nothing says Decent human being like stepping on those below you.

>>58103334
Get something like this, better value, and all the parts will work together (unlike in your list).
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qwrNYr
Also yes, Windows 7 is the wisest choice.

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>>58115079
And nothing says decent human being like victimization and self-pity

>>58103696
see >>58115114

>>58113964
6100 and RX 470 is better.
20 bucks more for a major step up from a 1050ti.

Better price/performance ratio

I have a new Msi 1070 and there is a squeeky noised from one of the fans what the fug is this

>>58112248
fug i have a cx750m will i die

>>58115303
You might. Shitty caps and dangerous wiring all over.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=416

>>58115459
It's not coil whine I already returned an ASUS STRIX for that and I'm not hearing it

Coil whine only comes when playing games anyway and this just came to me instantly on the desktop.

With that said who the fuck even makes a good 1070? EVGA is a literal housefire, ASUS is a coil whine mess and questionable heatpipes, and now this.

>>58115476
>>58115459
Oh somehow had thought you were replying to my 1070 squeeking post

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Lads, so I bought parts for a new machine but I'm getting BSOD whenever I try to install windows. Computers posts, goes to bios, and then shit gets weird. I'm getting windows error 0xc00000e9, which says hard drive issue. But I've tried 3 hard drives, and nothing. I've tried two sets of ram, nothing. I've tried installing windows from DVD and USB, it doesn't matter. I can't even boot into ubuntu from USB.

So I'm thinking it's either the motherboard or the CPU. Does the information above suggest one over the other?

CPU - i5 6600k
Motherboard - MSI Z170a
Every other part I've swapped with alternatives. Can't get this fucker to install an OS.

>>58115488
You've maybe put the drive you're installing windows on in a sata port that needs non-intel drivers to work. Check the motherboard manual and put it in one that's intel.

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who /spenteverythingonthebuild/ here?

>>58115536
Thanks for answering, I'll double check the manual on the SATA ports.

>>58100673
Corsair is the shit youre just a bitch

>>58116098
>>58100673
Corsair's CX series were pretty shit, but the RMX and RMI are great.

>>58103411
>>58103408
>>58103381
Why not just use windows disk management and delete all partitions?

>>58115488
>>58115536
Check the SATA cables.

There might be a problem there too.

I need a decent graphics card that is 9.5 inches or smaller. The Prebuilt PC I have doesn't have room for anything larger. Anyone know any smallish Graphics Cards they've used? I was thinking the Radeon RX 460 since the 470 was recommended to me earlier, yet it seems a tad too big for my current case.

>>58116824
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150781&cm_re=rx_470-_-14-150-781-_-Product

Gotta look hard man. 8.66 inches

>>58116915
Thanks. Sorry, I'm pretty new to all of this. I appreciate the help!

>>58115488
Could be corrupted install media

>>58115550
>PC is bigger than desk

>>58116958
If you have a prebuilt you probably dont have the required 6 or 8-pin connection

>>58117048
I'm buying a new PSU as well, and I've seen a couple people upgrade this particular prebuilt PC online.
Specs >>58101434 here.
I was initially planning on not upgrading the PSU, but I decided I'd get a 550W PSU to help myself for the future. I think that should mean I'm good, right?

>>58117261
550w 80+ or 80+ Bronze rating.

>>58117366
80+ Gold Rating
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gYMFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12g550
This one was the one I was considering.

>>58117381
Bit excessive, but seasonic is a good brand.

I feel like you'd get a better deal with a 750w seasonic, if you decide to upgrade your CPU/GPU to some serious high grade parts, it'd work out.

But for the most part, a 500w PSU should work out, and if seasonic/evga doesn't have it, then I guess go with that.

But if you really want to save money, go EVGA 80+ Bronze 500w, half the price.

>>58117448
Thanks for the recommendations. I think I might upgrade to the 750w in that case. It doesn't seem that much more expensive, and if it helps ensure I'll be able to upgrade in the future, ten or twenty bucks may just be worth it.

>>58117261
Your prebuilt may have a special connection between the mobo and PSU, in which case you can't just swap it out

>>58117579
I believe it uses standard connectors. I've checked in it myself as well as seen a few people online upgrade this very same prebuilt and I don't remember there being anything fucky with the PSU and mobo, I'll certainly check again though, just to be sure. I think the only thing I need to keep in mind is making sure it's the same size or close to the size of the old one.

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