/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Which is the most quiet and cool running rx 470/480?

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>>58076440
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
To anyone considering one of those builds. Do NOT fall for this. None of those builds are good. OP is just being a retard for repeatedly including this shit.
Pic highly related.

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Pic related is my current build. However, I've started going into video editing lately as well as streaming. My pc is mostly ok for this, but could be a bit better, as well as future-proofing it a bit more. Therefore I thought about upgrading the following

>CPU to i7-6700k+Noctua NH-D14 HSF
>Motherboard to MSI Z170A GAMING M5
>RAM to Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2x8GB 3000 C15
>PSU EVGA SuperNOVA 850G2

Should or shouldn't do?

>>58076998
No actual evidence but considering the layout of the HSF that would probably be the MSI Gaming X and the Asus Strix. Just stay away from PowerColor and Gigabyte, the PCBs are trash.

Is it retarded to buy GTX 1050 Ti on a i5-6500. Or am i retarded instead?

>>58078175
no, it's ok

>>58078175
An i3-6100 or 6300 would be a better pairing, since 1050 Ti is more of a entry or budget type of card. But if you need four actual cores, that's alright. The i5-6400 would have been cheaper, but not worth it due to its slower clock frequencies.

Tell me if this is good

Motherboard MSI B150 GAMING M3
Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz 6MB Sk1151
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WF OC 6GB
Crucial 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4-2400MHz Single Ranked RAM x2
Cooler CPU Cooler Master Hyper103
Nox NX 650W Power Suply
SSD Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB
3.5" Western Digital Blue 1TB 5400RPM 64MB SATA III
ATX Nox Hummer ZS Zero Edition Case
Nox CoolFan 120mm LED Red 1200RPM

Is this decent? What do i change?

I picked all the parts from a site in my country.

i3-4170
1050ti
8gb ddr3

>>58078767
>Is this decent?
This is absolutely disgusting.
>What do i change?
Everything. See logicalincrements.com for starters.

Is it just me or this actually not retardedly priced?

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G20CB-WB71-GTX1080-Performance-Tower-Desktop/dp/B01K1JW796/

Seriously considering going with this and just swapping over building a desktop myself

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hsDdGf
>only cost like $250 with huge cyber monday discounts
>quiet, efficient, cozy aio box

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Anyone figure I can stick a MSI 1070 Frozr in there and get away with it.

Maybe use 80mm fans.

>>58079864
If you can fit an H100i in there, you should be able to fit a TwinFrozer in there.

Hey guys, console player here who wants to start gaming on a PC but I'm new to building a PC so I'm not really sure where to start. Realistically, would I be able to get by with a ~750 dollar build that'll run games like Overwatch, CS:GO, and other games at medium/high settings. Do you guys have any tips on what parts I should look into, as I literally only know about good graphics cards and processors.

>>58079945
No clearance at the top for pcie

I'm hoping the EVGA powerlink might help with that

>>58079800
>Biostar
Disgusting. But suprisingly good build, especially for 250 bucks.

>>58079990
> Do you guys have any tips on what parts I should look into
Reading the fucking OP for once won't hurt you..

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Sure LI is not always up-to-date and the list are far from being a gold standard, but it gives you a good general idea.
Also, if you have no idea about compurers, you should either invest time and do your research, or stick with a pre-built system.
There's no shame in getting such a system if you have no time/motivation to learn all the how-to's and so on.

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>>58080269
>ty; mfw repeating terminal digits confirm
>>58079800
^And, I'll be quite honest here: this machine *flies* compared to anything else I've built for myself (but it's the first machine I've built for personal use in the better part of a decade); I'm strongly considering building a few more similar (but even more lower-powered/cheaper) ITX tinyboxes for sale after the new year (if I can find cheap DDR3 when SSD prices return to normal).

Is Xeon the best CPU family currently available for servers? What's a good low tier Xeon that I could potentially run silently/passive cooled?

>>58077963
Sole bump. From what I can tell this is all compatible and should work, but I'm an absolute retard when it comes to hardware.

Around how much thermal paste do you usually apply to a CPU?

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>>58080983
Itty bitty blob, smaller than a normal GMO pea size
Unless you have some absurdly big CPU, then there's probably a manual

>>58080894
CPU, RAM and PSU are fine, try to find the G3 though. It should be no more than 20 bucks more expensive, but it's worth it.
The MSI (((GAMING))) mobo is pure meme, don't. Get something like Asus Z170-A, Gigabyte Z170X-UD3 or Asus Pro Gaming (only worthwile mobo with that meme name tag).
The Noctua fan is good, but unless you're going to torture your CPU you won't need it. Noctua NH-U14S is smaller, cheaper and also very good.
Note that there can be some problem with Corsair LPX RAM, Z170 mobos and XMP profiles. If may be that you have to OC the RAM manually, otherwise avoid Corsair and get G.Skill Ripjaws V.

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>>58076440
Yes? No? Alternative? My desk isn't super big but I have my desktop up there anyway. The constant buzzing sound isn't so bad if I have headphones in but when I'm not in the mood for music it can get rather annoying. I don't even overclock but I'm considering replacing my cpu stock fan for something quieter. I makes a high pitch whine under full load.

>>58081051
MSI is the "meme name tag" that indicates that it's shit if you're talking about motherboards. "Gaming" just indicates that it's expensive, and Jewish mobo manufacturers (especially asus and gigabyte) like to save a few real advantages for their "gaming" stuff
And the ram incompatibility issue isn't just Vengeance ram, look on the motherboards website, see if there's a list of compatible ram models, g skill usually works in xmp fine (so does vengeance ram, more often than g skill in my case) but it didn't for me (had to update bios to get it working)

>>58081063
So yeah, I'm looking for the quietest cpu fan for the performance. 157mm maximum height.
Also some ideas for dampening the sound.

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I was tempted to try and make a lian li thread but figured fuck it, lets just discuss it here.

They have some absolutely incredible cases. Pic related is $120 and is gorgeous, I'm about to order it on impulse right now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112444

They also have the best looking SFF case ever but it's like $250.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112464

Why isn't lian li taking on the mainstream case market? They were/are the enthusiast case of choice but they let nzxt and fucking god forbid CORSAIR(vomit) take all the sales from the explosion of PC gaming. Back in 2006 when I started lurking here all the cool kids had lian li

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>>58081097
>look on the motherboards website, see if there's a list of compatible ram models
Unfortunately this is not reliable anymore. For example, the UD3 has the LPX RAM listed on it's officially supported RAM list, but there are reports for the 3000 issue.
On Corsairs site you find the reason, the RAM is primarily designed for usage on X99 mobos. Manual OC works fine, but XMP might not work.
This is not the case with G.Skill Ripjaws V and Trident Z, both are officially supported on Z170 mobos by G.Skill.

>g skill usually works in xmp fine
This is why i recommended it. Only problem with G.Skill is their disgusting heatspreadder design which makes the RAM incompatible with so many coolers.

Really enables your shekles counting axions in your central nervous system.

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>>58081206
>>58081097
>>58081051
Replaced the MSI with ASUS and also replaced the fan. Can't find the G3 though.

As for the RAM, I found this on the compatibility list off the Asus manual.

>>58081135
>Why isn't lian li taking on the mainstream case market?
>not enough LEDs
>no window-kit
>no cancerous (((GAMING))) marketing

>>58081508
>Corsair Dominator Platinum
Jesus Christ, do NOT buy that. Get Ripjaws 5 or Trident Z, Both should be on the list, don't forget to check it on the manufacturers sites.

>>58081206
But like I said, g skill didn't work for me, it's not a brand vs brand thing, it's a case by case basis where any specific model, speed or channel config of ram you have might not OC

>>58076440
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3JbHqk

I replaced the case with a better one and added Windows 8 64 bit. Is this a good build for ps2 emulation or playing kerbal space program?

>>58081590
Welp, this is it then.
>G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4-3000Mhz 16GB DDR4 3000MHz
Is on the compatibility list (F4-3000C15Q-16GRR)

>>58081622
So I might as well go for the g skill then since it seems to be a bit "random" according to you.

>>58081622
One should think that by almost 2017 things like especially RAM should be so far standardized that such issues and incompatibilities don't occure..
But that would be to easy, wouldn't it?

>>58081689
Also here was an update for my bios including "better ddr compatibility" that fixed it for me
If it doesn't work I'm sure you could rma it for another model of 3000mhz, they all perform the same anyways

>>58081063
Yeah get better fans. You can also use noise dampening for automobiles (dynamat and friends) or bedliner. Really anything dense and sticky will do, even some roofing stuff at your local hardware store might work.

>>58079407
>tfw the build i've been putting together is the same price and is actually LESS powerful then that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqD2WX

Should I just return the parts and go with that instead? I'm also going between two different apartments at the moment so that would be a lot easier to transport around as well.

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>>58047519
Thanks for the recommendations. The NZXT 240mm (X52) is too tall though, but the Enermax 240mm seems just about right at 27mm.

I think I'll consider getting the Corsair H115i (AKA H110i GTX) 280mm instead though, as the case supports 280mm rads and it's 26mm high, giving more room for the motherboard power connector.

Pic related, it's the H115i in a Corsair Obsidian 350D, so at least it looks like it fits perfectly.

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nice video game consoles

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>>58083795
(You)

>>58081028
just wait until Zen Naples comes out, especially if it exposes all combined 8 DDR4 channels and 128 PCIe lanes.

How'd I do:

- MSI B150M Mortar
- i3 6100
- Radeon RX 460 2GB
- HyperX Fury Black DDR4 2133MHz 8GB
- Corsair CX 450M
- 1 TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
- Corsair Spec M2 case
- Logitech G300s mouse
- chink keyboard
- used HP 2159m monitor

>>58077951
Behold, the anally annihilated. What's wrong, friend?

>>58084169
It's fine. Really should go with the GTX 1050 at the 2GB level. Try to save up for the RX 470 and a 240GB SSD

>>58081663
Forgot your gfx card.

>>58081135
>external hueg bays

>>58079990
You can easily run those games at high FPS and and ultra settings with low end parts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/NCbjXL ~750USD
Check Overwatch benchmarks to see how the CPU and gfx stack up.

It's a great skeleton build (you may want a different case or a 3GB or 6GB 1060), but for meme games like Overwatch it's slightly overkill. It'll last you a long time and let you play modern AAA titles easily, and you can upgrade the CPU to an unlocked i7 somewhere down the line if you want to. If you know that you'll never overclock, just pick the other i5 6500 build from the pcbg pcpartpicker for slight savings.

>>58078805
Don't buy Haswell new. The 1050Ti is a prebuilt card.

>>58078767
Didn't you already post? Either get a cooler for the 6600 to maintain the boost clock or drop to i5 6500

>>58078175
i5 6500 is good if you get mid range card like 470/480/1060. If you're sticking with the 1050Ti get an i3 6100

>>58077963
With a 1080, your immediate need is a good monitor. Having a 1080 with 1080p 60Hz monitors is just embarrassing.
If streaming, get an i7 3770
You're looking at $800

What 3000 speed 16gig ram should I get? I'm looking for something around 100$

Friends first pc build how does it look?
I am giving him my old case Corsair Air 240.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BRvQcc

>>58084790
Get the i5 6500

>>58084619
Any will do

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buddy from work wants to get into pc gaming and has ~$800 budget. he went to microcenter alone yesterday (against my advice) and some jew working there fast-talk hustled him into buying a jerrys kid rig with an fx8350 and rx 460 and 16gb ram and some $80 microsoft mouse/keyboard bundle. buddy says he cant even max overwatch on this machine. I'm gonna go with him tomorrow to return everything except the HDD, but I haven't been into pc gaming for years and even then I always asked /g/ because Im a lazy faggot. whats the best possible build he can make for that money? also what are some good ways (on the technical side) I can tell the salesman how much of a stupid faggot jew he is?

>>58084169
Really good anon, the only thing I would have done different is shelled out for the EVGA 600w psu

updated version of >>58084790
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H2xvD8

>>58084922
Start here

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>58084922
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/NCbjXL
Have to add in the cost of the RAM. Can get a better case and a slightly better gfx card with the remaining money

I'm going to build a Zen+Vega machine as soon as it's released, should I go for water cooling?

we're ditching the ssd since it's not necessary.

why such an expensive mobo? I've seen similarly budgeted builds using like $50-80
why not a gtx 1070 8gb or some other beastmode card when his budget is so (relatively) big?


also I typod, meant ~$900 not 800. he went in looking to spend 1000 and also ended up buying windows for 100 bucks and already used the key and everything so he's stuck with it now.

>>58085067
meant to reply to
>>58085156

>>58085122
>I'm going to build a Zen+Vega machine
Wait for benchmarks / arch analysis

>should I go for water cooling?
Only if you're going mini-ITX

>>58085156
>we're ditching the ssd since it's not necessary.
No offense, but you're a retard.

>why such an expensive mobo?
Can upgrade to an unlocked CPU later and can use fast RAM in the meantime. You can get a B150 mobo but you'll be limited to locked CPUs and slow RAM.

Getting a GTX1070 will put you here at min, well over the original 800USD budget. At 900USD you're closer
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Fjyf7P
The 1070 is a 1440p card

>>58085265
>limited to locked CPUs
What I meant to say is that while you could technically install and use an unlocked CPU, you can't OC on a B150 board

I currently have a an i5 6600k and a 970.
I have the cash to upgrade to either an i7 6700k or a 1070.
Which would be the better purchase?

>>58085445
1440p Gsync >100Hz HDR OLED monitor + 1070 or bust

>>58085445
1070

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Is there anything wrong with this?

>>58085493
No SSD, and you have to inject the USB3 drivers into Win7 if you want to install over USB

Is the Crucial mx300 a good SSD?

>>58085531
>>58085265
whats wrong with no ssd if you dont give a fuck about load times or longevity

>>58085551
when you experience the difference an SSD makes you will give a fuck about the load times

>>58085551

>I don't value my time at all

Shit adds up you know

>>58076440
will there be a price drop in the gtx 10xx series gpus within the next month or two?

>>58085445
It depends. If you're a gaymer like 99% of this general, then the 1070. If you need the computer for rendering, virtual machining, advanced 3d modelling etcetera, get the i7.

>>58085535
Yeah they're fine though /g/ will probably tell you that anything other than an Samsung 850 Pro is shit.

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>>58076440
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/YwCQKZ
Already got the 6600k, just about to place the order for everything else now. I'm pretty confident in everything, I'll get a hdd further down the road but I like to run a clean computer so probably not for a while.
What case should I get? I don't want to spend any more than a hundred bucks for one with a window that will fit everything, anyone got any experiences with cases to speak of?
Pic for attention

>>58085535
Wrong.
Everything except for a Samsung 960 Pro is shit.
>>58085535
Any SSD is many times better than no SSD, but you largely get what you pay for with SSDs. More expensive SSDs aren't memes, the performance increase per dollar is largely linear up to the stupid expensive ones.

>>58085687
Meant to (You) >>58085658

>>58085602
Gaming is the most intensive use of my pc, yes.
The only reason I ask really is because I've heard that new games are getting more CPU intensive and actually taking advantage of hyperthreading. I plan to stick with my current 1080p monitor for the immediate future, so if there's any risk of the i5 becoming a bottleneck, I'll just save my money and upgrade both later. Maybe that's all a meme though, idk.

>>58085694
the i5 6600k is a very good cpu for gaming, it wouldn't even bottleneck a 1080 or a titan in most games. A 6600k won't bottleneck a 1080p monitor, either. Get the 1070.

>>58085576
Maybe the 1080
I guarantee nothing else will go below MSRP for at least 3 years unless vega is VERY competitively priced

>>58085658
The 850 pro is shit, the 950 pro is an old meme now that the 960 pro exists

>>58085777
thanks trips dude
guess i'll see if i can save a couple bucks on boxing day, if not then so be it

>>58085694
The 6600k kicks ass, and the 6700k is the exact same CPU but with hyperthreading. If your program uses hyperthreading (many rendering, editing, and modeling programs do), a 6700k will help. If your program does not support hyperthreading, the 6600k is the same as a 6700k. Replacing an already new CPU is retarded, the 6600k will be a great contender for years and years to come
A 1070 would be cool but at 1080p, you're not utilizing it fully.

>>58085719
Stop using bottleneck if you don't know what it means

>>58085810
thanks for the (You) matey
Here's a (You) in return

>>58085687
>>58085784
>recommending a 960 pro
>using an nvme ssd for OS and muh games
>most motherboards put the slot right under the gpu
>960 doesn't come with heatsinks

Bought a 250GB 750 EVO and couldn't be happier. Fucking memers on this board are ridiculous.

>>58085861
>t. fucking poorfag trying to justify his pathetic lack of disposable income
c-couldn't be happier w-with my subpar ssd g-guys haha....

>>58085667
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mDTfxY

>>58085894
>fucking poorfag
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>58076440

Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2
2 Noctua NF-S12A's
120GB Kingston SSD
2TB Seagate SSD
MSI Z170M MORTAR
Intel i7-6700k
MSI STRIX 1070
Hyper 212 EVO
Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3000hz
Corsair 450M Bronze Power Supply

First build, don't roast

>>58085982
>Corsair case
>120GB SD KINGSTON HOWLING
>MSI Z170
>i7
>MSI 1070
>Hyper 212
>Corsair PSU

try again

>>58086032

I'm confused, did I fuck up on the formatting? I've only been here a few days, my bad

>>58076440
EVGA G2 or Seasonic KM/3?

>>58086046
post budget

>>58086092
$1750 CAD, ended up $20 underneath

>>58085719
CPU load does not increase with resolution, only framerate.

>>58085667
Need a higher CFM cooler for a substantial OC
Get 3000MHz RAM
1440p monitor

>>58085982
Better PSU
250GB SSD

>>58079864
Can somebody tell me what case that is?

>>58086196
Looks like a coolermaster mini itx bench case / cube

>>58086195
What are the bonuses of getting a bigger SSD and PSU?

>>58086215
You can run an OC'd i7 + a 300W gfx card or mGPU
You want your games on the SSD as well. 120GB is cramped

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Using PC for gaming, hoping to play new releases on maximum settings

Budget around 1k or slightly more (1500 absolute max), pic related current working build

Thinking about reusing my old case that has a built in PSU, not sure if it would support my parts though

>Rosewill TU-155 II 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with 500W Power Supply

Case related

Also would playing in 4k be feasible with this build? If not what should I change?

>>58086231
Does this mean I'm bottle necking my 1070 because of my shit-tier power supply?

Also, will it give me any bonuses to install games to my SSD rather than my HDD? other than shorter loading screens

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LzxvD8

where am i going overboard/underboard

>>58086247
>Update
Also, would going for a pricier CPU be worth it performance wise? How much more performance would I see moving up to an i7? Any viable AMD options?

>>58086247
Drop cooler; use stock
Z170 is for OC, only keep it if you're going to upgrade to an unlocked i7 and OC later
Drop to B150 mobo if you won't
If you keep Z170 get 3000MHz RAM

Nice ultrawide. The 29UM68 is the newer model, supposedly better quality control. It's a Freesync monitor, consider waiting for Vega or getting a 480, but honestly the Freesync range is small. Of course ultrawide sucks for old games and movies.

re: 4K, Depends on the games. If you're trying to play new AAA at 4K you probably want to get a 1080Ti / Big Vega

>>58086252
>Does this mean I'm bottle necking my 1070 because of my shit-tier power supply?
No, but you don't really have much upgrade room. If you already have the PSU don't worry about it, otherwise spend the extra 5-10USD for a higher wattage

>SSD
Just fucking try it. The 120GB doesn't even have as good a GB/$ ratio as the 240GB.

>>58086290
1080 is way overboard. What res?

>>58086299
No, not much right now, no.

If you want AMD you have to wait for Zen, and there are no guarantees regarding performance.

>>58086347
Could I bypass getting a 240 and just running in a RAID array? I put the PC together back early September and haven't run into any problems yet

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What should I upgrade first?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tWLNYr
tell me how i'm wrong.
and help me choose a case/monitor
thanks.

>>58086347
(1080 overboard)

up to 4k when possible

>>58086196
250d

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>get 1440p korean monitor because I thought it's a good value
>only thing that will show on monitor is an endless slideshow of solid colors
Am I fucked or am I just doing something wrong? mfw I don't have an extra monitor and can't afford to buy another one

Ordering 4000mhz ram for dat 10% fps increase in the games that I play.

>>58086247
Oh, just saw that you already have that build. Personally I'd wait to get a 4K monitor until the tech matures

>>58086366
240GB SSDs are like $60. But if you already have the 120 just use that until you're irritated enough to buy a new one

>>58086384
Replace thermal paste
Get new gfx card (470/480/1060)
Get SSD
Get i7 3770 or 3770K
in that order

>>58086388
Not much reason to get a liquid cooler unless you're going mini ITX or have a windowed case

>>58086404
If you don't have the monitor wait to get a good gfx card until you do. Also the 1080Ti is around the corner, consider the EVGA step up program

>>58086466
If the monitor is the only new thing it's the problem; RMA
Otherwise test it with both discrete gfx card and iGP out from mobo

>>58086528
I did. Could the cable be the problem? I'm using a dual-dvi

>>58086500
Can you recommend a CPU cooler? ty

>>58086611
Not him, but I'd recommend the Cryorig h7

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>>58086500
So something like this?

>>58086554
Doubt it

>>58076440
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxvGhq
Rate pls

>>58086642
Gfx is fine
Get a smaller / cheaper SSD. 480GB would be plenty, 240GB is enough for a lot of games
Get the CPU used otherwise you get gouged. If you're buying new, time to get an i7 6700K with DDR4

>>58086500
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LzxvD8
I am
>>58086247

Can I still use my same old case from a previous build with the 500W PSU built in? Or will I have issues?

Also
I was thinking about changing the CPU to i7 6700k for overclocking fun. Would that dramatically change my PSU requirements?

>>58086648
Looks good but now you need a nice monitor

>>58086676
Thanks. Are there any high refresh rate ones that don't suck?

>>58086466

Wouldn't happen to be the QNIX QX2710 would it? I've had this happen to be a bit before. It's pretty much the monitor telling you it's not getting a proper video signal. (Out of Range, or whatever)

Maybe try booting into safe mode or Low-Res mode? Is there any picture before you boot into your OS?

i5-6500 with stock cooler
Asus gtx 1060 3gb
Gigabyte z170-d3h
PNY 120 gb SSD
WD blue 1tb HD
Corsair CS550M
Ballistix sport lt 8gb x 2
Rosewill tyrfing case

Cost me like 550 after rebates and black friday

>>58086733
>QNIX QX2710
yes
>Maybe try booting into safe mode or Low-Res mode?
How do I do that?
>Is there any picture before you boot into your OS?
Nope. I just get an endless rainbow slideshow once I boot my pc

>>58086675
The OC'd i7 won't drastically change build wattage, but if you're trying for 4K the gfx is the important upgrade. You old PSU is fine

>>58086695
I don't know, but you want 1440p >100Hz Gsync IPS, but you might want to wait for OLED + HDR

>>58086500
what if i have a 4k monitor?

What sort of performance can i expect out of the on board gpu on a i5 6500? Is it better a 2006 gpu? I think i have a 2790 in my old pc

I have an Nvidia GTX 760 and an AMD FX-6300.

I'm thinking about eventually moving to the new Zen if it isn't shit and an accompanying AMD based graphics card, just to satisfy my ocd, provided it's comparable or better than the GTX. What should I keep my eye out for? Most of my workload is Photoshop and Maya.

how does the i3 score higher?

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-6400-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6300

>>58087301
wasted your money desu senpai

Pulling the trigger soon. Anything look obviously wrong?

Internals
i5-6500
Gigabyte GA-H110M
8GB DDR4 2133 RAM
Sandisk 240GB SSD
GTX 1050 3GB
Rosewill R5
550W PSU

Displays
2x 1440p + 1x 1080p

>>58087494
higher clock speed

>>58087563
hows that exactly?

>>58087574
>Anything look obviously wrong?
buying an SSD and getting that shit GPU instead

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Rate my in progress build /g/

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This is my build, my main concern is noise and ventilation, i want basically silent computing

>>58087613
don't get a full tower case. thats a lot of room to fill. you can find plenty of mid tower or even smaller that will be perfect for your application

>>58087594
4K monitors are an overpriced, overkill sham right now, and have been for a while since it's almost impossible to work on one at native res

4K is a media consumption format, not a productivity format.

>>58087613
board, RAM, and case is overkill

>>58087618
get rid of the SSD and invest in a better GPU

>>58087625
I wanted a full tower because most likely I'll be upgrading alot. I might try and get another 960 in SLI and would like the extra space for air flow. What do you think?

>>58087642
I think it's still overkill unless you intend to buy 8 harddrives

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the ram, case, and cooler are already in my possession

>>58087665
thanks for the tip, any mid sized towers you would recommend?

>>58087586
so would it actually be a better buy, at a cheaper price? i have a stigma against i3 for some reason

>>58087665

this. full tower means you can fit 4 GPUs, 8 hard drives, tons of fans, liquid cooling, etc. go mid tower unless it's a $3000 build or otherwise you'll just be taking pictures of a lot of empty space and looking a freaking huge computer

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>>58076440
Rate my new build, its my second PC, didnt had a big budget.

>>58087641
ssd is staying, whats so bad about the 460 though, it seems good or does it overheat too fast or something.

>>58087682
How much did that run you, I wanna guess like 800$

>>58087676
>any mid sized towers you would recommend?
I mean, it all depends what you want
Corsair has a scaled-down version of the 750 that's pretty nice, Fractal has /g/-approved black boxes, I'm partial to NZXT myself because I'm a huge ricer faggot

>>58087692
I'll look into the scaled-down version. Thanks dude

>>58087683
>ssd is staying
that's too bad, I prefer Marvell to Sandforce

460 is just...lame, especially considering the 480 is mad cheap already

>>58087704
>that's too bad, I prefer Marvell to Sandforce
is this a reference i dont et?

i acnt find any 480s that fit and wont melt the computer.

just being "lame" is no reason

>>58087703
check out the 350D or 450D if you feel you really need the space

>>58087641
what about 4k for mostly gaming?

>>58087686
Around 900, the 2tb hard drives and ssd got them on sale but i mainly spent like 800 bucks on case, cpu, gpu, power supply, ram,mobo and a Corsair Carbide SPEC-M2, oh and a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

>>58087731
I know I probably dont need it, but not gonna lie I'm paranoid about airflow/temps and would always prefer just to have extra space in the tower.

>>58087718
>is this a reference i dont et?
memory controller
Marvell was always more reliable, don't know about now

a 480 will absolutely fit in that case, and heat isn't as much an issue anymore since cards don't suck volts like they used to

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My little brother just turned 12 and he's interested in computers. Parents are a little too poor to buy him a computer so I wanted to build him a decent entry level computer to have fun with. What do you guys think

>>58087732
>what about 4k for mostly gaming?
>>>/v/
also 4K gaming is a meme right now since there still isn't a decent single card solution OR monitors that do over 60Hz

>>58087756
Should also note I'll be adding an optical drive (because his school is prehistoric and still uses CD's for at home projects)

>>58087755
or so which ssd should i go for then?

also the cheapest 480 is literally double the price of the 460, i doubt the perfomance gain is there, especially when i dont game.

>>58087743
extra space for a single-card setup isn't really an issue - extra fans are
I would just find a case that has 2-3 fans in the front/bottom and 1 exhaust and isn't more than $100
Take it from someone that fell for the full tower meme and now has to sit next to a nearly empty fucking tombstone

>>58087671
anyone?

there are so many companies to keep track of, and combinations that dont work, i'm about to start ordering the big parts and i don't want to fuck it up

>>58087779
Crucial MX200
>i dont game
what do you need a gaming GPU for then?

>>58087671
>>58087792
its a literal dream setup for gaming, I hope you are running 3 monitors

>>58087805

3? No. But 2 is a definite. I want something that can run any game I throw at it while I shitpost.

>>58087793
because i dont think the on board graphics would be good enough for dual monitors would they? all only full hd, but i want to have say 1080p video on one screen and photoshop on the other.

>>58087817
get a 1440p monitor for gaming and a 1280x1024 for shitposting

>>58087821
you don't need a GPU for photoshop and shitposting

>>58087821
>>58087836
just to add, you also don't need an i5 and an aftermarket cooler to do that either

>>58087836

yeah look at macs. they just use design programs and try to defend them on reddit and they don't crash ever

>>58087836
>>58087848
i dont really want lag for one, and if i went say an i3 route would the onboard gpu actually be strong enough?

looking for long term life from this, maybe 10 years or more and i fear an i5 with no gpu would be shit

>>58087851
what?

>>58087851
u wot m8

>>58087865
>photoshop
>video playback

>lag
no

just do this>>58087851

>>58087878
youre saying buy a mac? theyre so over priced though

>>58087872
>>58087877
>/s

>>58087884
not as overpriced as your "future-proof" shitposting build

>>58087872
>>58087877

gf runs like 3 or 4 design programs in parallel and never has any lag with her macbook pro. but that thing can't even run fallout 4.

>>58087872
>>58087877
>>58087888

what's a good 1440p monitor that can do horizontal or vertical for ultimate battlestation aesthetics?

>>58087936
ASUS has a couple

Wanna build a hyper v/gaming PC. looking at having 2 gtx 1080s, INTEL e5 and at least 16gb ram. Need motherboard, fan, case suggestions

well i dont want an i3 6100 only to find out i cant do any shit with this computer, when i could have got a 6500.

>>58087961
roll for this

>>58087951
motherboard, preferably something that can run sli
fans, enough
case, something that can fit two gpus

it's really up to taste desu

can you deal with a big case? get a mid tower from corsair or cooler master. plenty of flexibility with cable management, etc. it can fit two gpus and a cpu cooler with ease

fans, find out how many come with your cpu then buy enough corsair fans to fit the remaining spots. positive pressure is the way to go

motherboard? if you're going to be doing big things then get one with 4 slots for ram, plenty of sata ports, and room for two gpus in sli.

otherwise, it's all up to color preference

>>58087961
any i3 will be a very capable CPU

>>58087951
>motherboard
Asus X99-E-10G WS
>fan
Corsair H110i
>case
Lian-Li PC-V2120X

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What do you you guys think? Any suggestions?

>>58082341
bumping this

I'm a manlet and am weak as fuck and can barely lift my current build from 5 years ago to transport it, let alone this new one which is in a heavier case and has beefier parts.

>>58088160
Get case wit handle

Best mitx cases? For lounge pc so want silence and good airflow

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Are there any alternatives to the Silverstone td03? I'm at the point where literally a millimeter could be the difference between it fitting and not fitting.

>>58076440
What is the most number of riser cables one would want to string together?

For a build I'm considering, I'd need to move the GPUs almost 2 feet from the Mobo.
Would 3 riser cables be ok, daisy-chained to each GPU?

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>>58088293
Do you have an orientation preference? The smallest tower style itx cases are the A4-SFX and the ncase m1 at the moment. I use the Cougar QBX which is just a cheap slav version of the ncase and I can achieve silence for my gaming rig.
If you're looking for a console-style form factor then the Silverstone rvz02 is your best bet at the moment, unless you want to pay the insane Lian Li premium. The case everyone is excited for is the Dr Zaber at the moment (pic related) so if you can hold on for a while then that might be a good choice.

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>>58088293

Literally why get a cheap AIO when you can just get good air cooling for the same price, with the same performance, but quiter?

>>58088657
Moving heat to a more convenient part of the case for performance/aesthetics

>>58088669
A Noctua NH-D15 is the best looking cooler in the world though.

>>58088679
Most people don't choose bare metal and vomit as their colour theme

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Very new to this, but been waiting to build a goddamned gaming PC for years. Finally at the point where I can say money isn't an issue and so I want it. Bad.

First off I should probably note that I'm only really interested in 1080 or maybe 1440p. 4k seems like some sort of meme to me right now. I'm more interested in frame rate and 1080p serves me just fine right now in that regard.

>inb4 16GB RAM
Some of these parts are being purchased simply because they will last through later upgrades and are relatively cheap.

Being so new to this though, I have a few questions.

As far as RAM goes, is it more efficient or somehow better for operation to run with 1x16GB, 2x8GB, or 4x4?

Are optical drives even recommended in an age where we download everything?

Part suggestions are also welcome if you think I'm underpowering or overpowering this thing.
I've been using Logical Increments as a template so I don't fuck up this thing at least functioning.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Q7jRG

>>58089043
>RAM
2x8GB.

>optical drive
You need it, you buy it, it's that simple.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Q7jRG
That's a bad list. You can save money and get a freakin SSD, it's almost 2017.
If money isn't an issue get different parts, but stay with i7 6700K and GTX1080, both will serve you for a long time, note that the 1080TI will be released in Q1 2017.

>>58089154
What's wrong with the parts? In what direction should I be taking them?

>>58089043
>ram
a bit of redundancy helps, so having 2 x 8 is probably ideal - the 8s will be usable for longer (4s will get outdated pretty soon now), and that way if a stick fails, you still have some ram while you get it replaced. Granted, I've been running on 1x8 for 4 years now.

>optical drive
I got a decent LG drive for 20 bucks. I have mine as a failsafe mostly - recently had to reinstall windows, which would be a pain in the dick without a disk. Also useful if you want to rip cds you own, watch movies you own physical copies of, or burn disks. Your call.

>other suggestions
Get an SSD. You've been waiting to build a gaming PC but you're overlooking one of the best things you can do for your experience.
Not sure about Intel parts, so no suggestions for mobo and cpu.
Looks like you're getting memed on with (((Founder's Edition))) and that case. You might also be able to save a few bucks on PSU, not sure about the power reqs for those parts.

>>58089172
You're overpaying extremely hard and reference design GPUs are shit if you don't want ITX or custom loop.

>>58089191
I should probably point out that none of these prices are final or even looked at yet.
I'm putting together a parts list first and I'll look into the pricing after that.
The PSU is honestly probably double what I need, but that just means it can carry over into later more power hungry machines so long as it lasts.

>>58089217
It's good to have about double what you need, and you want a good psu, but I *think* your build could do just fine with say, an 800W power supply.

the i7 (+ compatible mobo) + gtx 1080 will serve you well for years, but you'll want to look into aftermarket brands for your GPU to best suit your needs (and save you some money).

However, if you just want to play in 1080p or 1440p, dropping to a 1070 would save you a lot and that's still an extremely powerful card. Do you have a monitor available (or picked out) for this build?

For the case, what are you looking for? Full tower cases will almost certainly not have spacing issues, so most of it is aesthetics.

For storage, consider dropping to a 1 TB hdd and getting a 500 gb sdd. Installing windows and games to the sdd will save you tons of time in the long run, and you'll still have the hdd for storage of say, movies, pictures, music, or games you play less often.

>>58089306
>800W PSU
Nah. 650 or 750 W is fine.
Having double of what you need is a huge meme and it's stupid.
True, PSUs havr their peak efficiency at about 50% load, but it's not worth to pay 20 bucks more, you'll lose the saved money while idling under 20% load anyways.

>>58089342
thanks for clearing that up. I've been using an 850w power supply because "maybe I'll upgrade my machine!"

boy was I fuckin' stupid.

>>58089306
I'll look into the PSU. See what I dig up.

I chose the 1080 purely because the Titan is ludicrously overpriced for the upgrade it offers. I can more than afford it, but from what Digital Foundry is saying, its pretty underutilized if you aren't going full 4k and in some cases the 1080 and Titan are pretty much equal in terms of 1080p performance. Plus if gives me some wiggle room over the 1070 if I decide to go further with it.

I haven't looked into a monitor yet, but I probably should. Started building the rig itself first. Is there a generally accepted size most people aim for? I don't need anything TV sized, but I'm sure some size would be good.

Is there a good way to know the dimensions of what this thing will look like put together? Or as long as the tower supports ATX I should be solid?

Only reason I choose 2TB was because of how ridiculously fast I've filled my PS4's 1TB drive. My friend was suggesting I get a SSD as a boot,drive though.

>>58089396
Fair enough on the gpu. Yeah, you definitely don't need a titan for what you want, might want to wait for the 1080 ti if you have the money and want that wiggle room.

Monitor is largely up to personal preference. I've been using a playstation 3d display for several years though. 24 inches, 1080p, wider screen than average. In additional to resolution, you'll want to look up refresh rates - 150 fps doesn't really mean much if your monitor has a refresh rate of 60.

mobo will fit if it's an atx and the case is atx, but that doesn't include what you put on the mobo. for example, the gpu. pcpartpicker does a lot of standard calculations for you, but you'll want to be careful if you pick a mid size tower with the 1080 since it's a huge card, so check beforehand (google gtx 1080 with x case). With a full size tower, there's almost no chance of you having issues though.

Main reason I suggested dropping to 1 tb is that you should be installing any game you plan on using frequently to the ssd. but shit, if you could afford a titan, get more SSDs with the money you save by getting the 1080 instead lel.

>>58089372
Those PSUs are primarily made for SLI/CFX usage or other special cases.
For an i7 + 1080 a 650 or 750 PSU is everything you need.
See if you can find a EVGA G3 650/750W, should be around 100-140 burgerbux, has excellent build quality, almost plat efficiency and Jonnyguru almost came testing this PSU.

>>58088409
Tower like, not dvd player like

whats nvidias answer to the 460/470? is amd the best for that price point?

>>58088409
can that dr case even fit a gpu? looks nice though, whats the eta

>>58089749
1050/1060 respectively. About an extra 40 bucks, but you get what you pay for.

>>58089779
compatibility? seems better for emulation but worse for math or something like that?

>>58087677
Depends. But the 6400 is kind of a bad buy anyway, the 6500 is better value.

>>58083795
Kek

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/yyHgr7

How's my pooinloo build

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I got space on top and on the rear for fans, should my CPU air cooler blow to the rear or wouldn't it be more efficient for it to blow it out top?
If I would let it blow to the top should I put a 120mm fan on top too or remove the rear 120mm fan and use that instead? Would it even be needed?

I swear to god if I look this up on google all I get is some 14 year olds treating fans like witchcraft, like theres some speciality involved.
Anyone care to help?

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>>58089938
It's shit desu

>>58089500
I pared down the PSU by 70W.
Picked out a monitor that gives me 60hz. That's really all I need out of it. 1080p like I said. Looked at 1440p but with the price on those things, I'll just wait until I decide to pull the trigger on 4K HDR or something.
I'll stick with the chosen tower I think and I've honestly decided to stick with the HDD too. Load times don't concern me too much. Being able to afford an SSD doesn't necessarily mean I should. I might well get one later on though.

The mobo seems alright but I don't know much about them. Same with the cooler. Any advice on those two elements, /g/?

>>58090064
Should probably include the list.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tgZyHN

>>58089879
so basically get the i3 and if need a bit more power get a 1050 or something?

Reeee why won't my USB stick load the drivers to install win 7 when booting? Stupid z170 mobo/skylake cpu.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fyQbRG

I bought all the parts on black friday, some in microcenter and most off newegg. I think after rebates I spent about 550

4690k @ 4.4GHz (Scythe Mugen 4)
GTX 970
16Gigs of ram
512Gig SSD
Fractal R4
144Hz 1080p and 60Hz 4k monitors
Das Keyboard, G402
Beyer DT-770, Superlux e205u mic

What should I upgrade next? I'm thinking DAC and new headphones (namely AKG 702). I play shit like CS:GO and Overwatch.

>>58088293
node 202

>>58087951
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HfktLD
Build so far, any suggestions?

>>58090275
O2 DAC/AMP + DT770/880, unless you go professional and need 100% accuracy on footsteps.

>>58090397
Well, I kinda want to move on from DT-770s since I've had them for years, and I never cared one bit about them. So the plastic hinges are broken, the cord has issues and the ear muffs are disgusting. Spares are hard to find where I live.

And I kind of want open headphones since nowadays I live in a flat and I am quite loud with closed headphones.

Good call on the O2 DAC/AMP, though I might be too much of a jew for it.

>>58090446
DT 880 or 990 maybe? 990 have a treble spike though.

>>58087756
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/
cant you swap out the processor for an i3 and replace the 480 which will be heavily bottlenecked by a g4400 with an rx 470?

>>58090515
I am not really convinced by their open headphones, the AKGs are also cheaper.

>>58090580
I have no experience with AKGs, but it sure is a good brand. Better ask about this on /hpg/.

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Roast my ass /g/

>>58090669
>NEX
>Red Dragon

>>58090699
But going with the 650W G2 and the Sapphire 480 will make it $60 more expensive. Worth?

>>58090669
Not K series CPU, obsolete in 2 years

mITX to ensure shit expandability.

Fast memory because spending money with no return is fun

M.2 SSD which isn't nVME, are you absolutely fucking retarded?

>2016
>buys HDD

1440p on radeon, glhf

60Hz in 2016

>Razer

>>58090713
Hell yes. Alternatively you could get the XFX GTR, great card, too.

>>58090715
Go away you big bully

>>58090740
>asks to be roasted
>gets mad when someone does it

Why, though?

>>58090715
> Not K series CPU, obsolete in 2 years
Just recently moved from FX-8320 to i5-2400S. No difference whatsoever in games, if we're talking about it.
> Razer
Yup.
>>58090669
PowerColor is shit, Sapphire always have the superior tech. I also have had a good experience with HIS, but YMMV.

Looking to upgrade from an r9 270, should I get the 1060 6gb or RX 480 8gb? the 480 is currently ~5% cheaper

>>58091490
the cheaper one, in this case 480

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>>58089771
Yeah, in fact it can fit an oversized GPU.

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Update from last thread. Still need a CPU for this build, best bang for buck that won't bottleneck. ~250€ budget.

All parts that have a price can still be changed.

Doing heavy video editing with 2x 1440p. Rarely game, maybe GTA 5.

No plans on overclocking.

>>58092218
That ass is so disgusting, holy fuck. Looks like partial body obesity.
Anyways. The only CPU in the 250€ range is the i5-6600K.
>Z170 Pro Gaming for 95€
Where? Considering the 40€ Asus cashback where i live it still costs 110€.
>4x4GB 2400RAM
Fucking don't. Get 2x8GB 3000 RAM
>Asus 1060 6G
Well, i know cash back and all, but Palit Jetsream 1060 6G should still be cheaper and it's an excellent card.
>Define R5
Unless you need the 5.25" bay or that many 3.5" bays, get the smaller and cheaper Define S or C.

>>58090800
Wow I too moved from a HD 5750 to a GTX 280 and got no difference!!

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>>58081508
Slight update in this PC: decided to give my old PC to family, and build the new one in a new case. (Giving family old case and throwing in a cheapish decent GPU and HDD)

Pic related should do more than fine for new setup, r-right?

>>58090669
H170 is for multi GPU. Get B150 or H110
Can't use memory faster than 2133 at its full speed with a board besides a Z170. Your 3000 will be "downclocked" to 2133

480 is generally too weak for 1440p
That's a shit monitor for gaming anyway

Is this needed? its an amd motherboard it says TB_Header

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>>58093207
forgot pic

>>58092840
Price?

>>58087756
I3 + 470

>>58093594
€170,50

>>58093704
Holy fuck no. You can get the Define R5 for 95-110€.

>>58093207
>>58093225
Thunderbolt header and no its not needed. What happened to it?

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How do you see what the pure performance of ram is? I know that latency is a function of frequency and the cas latency number. My 8 year old 800hmz ram has 5 cas latency, so the true latency would be 1 / (800 / 2) * 5 = 12.5ms. If we look at a modern 3000hmz ram with 16 cas latency, it has a true latency of 10.7ms. Surely the performance of the new ram compared to my old shit is more than 20%, so what's missing? Would something like (frequency * true latency) measure raw performance?

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>>58093740
This one I assume? Thanks

>>58093795
Define "performance". If we're talking solely about latency, then yeah, new DDR4 is basically identical with DDR3 and not much better than DDR2 or DDR. RAM is not integrated on the CPU, so the information from RAM has to travel not-insignificant distances, thus introducing more latency. And there isn't really anything that can be done to reduce that latency by much short of switching to optical computing or integrating the RAM into the CPU by increasing the cache.

The real improvements are in bandwidth and capacity.

>>58093750
I accidentally bent it when installing a new fan

>>58093876
Yes, excellent silent case, if you don't need a DVD drive and all the HDD bays you can also get the smaller Define S or C.
Since you're from Netherlands, the Nanoxia Deep Silence 3 is also an option. It's basically a cheaper version of the Define R5, but check if you're cooler fits because the case only allows up to 158mm i think.

>>58093903
>Define "performance"

We can define performance by higher FPS in a game where ram can be the bottleneck (Fallout 4 is an example of this http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page6.html )

How would I for example know if 3200hmz ram with a true latency of 12 is better than 3000hmz ram with a true latency of 10? How do you in numbers quantify the performance?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbdV2R

A compact workstation/video editing/gaming machine around $5000 (with a quality monitor included). I added some peripherals as well, along with some that were already purchased beforehand.

>>58094027
>How would I for example know if 3200hmz ram with a true latency of 12 is better than 3000hmz ram with a true latency of 10? How do you in numbers quantify the performance?
Talking specifically about games? Short of benchmarking them yourself, you can't.

>>58094113
It's pretty likely they will perform identical. Generally speaking... If I were you, I'd go for the 3200mhz kit and tighten the timings manually.

suggested 1440p 144hz monitors?

I got a prebuilt computer last year because I was too stupid to just buy and build my own for cheaper. Now I want to upgrade the graphics card. My question is how do I see if my computer is even compatible for a graphics card upgrade, and how will I know that the graphics card will fit in the curgent case I have?

The CPU I have is decent enough so I'd rather not build from scratch if I can help it, but I've heard a lot of prebuilts may not be designed with future upgrades in mind

Gigabyte Nvidia GTX1070G1 8GB
EVGA Supernova G2550W Gold
Enthoo Pro M Midi tower Case
ADATA Premier SP550 240GB 2.5 inch SSD
Gigabyte Z170-HD3P Skylake ATX Mobo
Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB HDD
Crucial 8GB DDR4 RAM
i5-6500

The only thing I'm really wondering about is whether its worth getting anymore cooling, no plans to overclock. Will the PSU be high enough wattage?
UK, decent gaming rig

What is the significance of the qualified vendors list of ram for motherboards? If I buy ram that isn't on it, will it not run as stable?

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>>58094817
>G2550W Gold

>Always state the purpose of your PC
Having an assload of tabs open (in firefox /firefox dev), for games like EUIV, Deus Ex Mankind divided, Witcher III and hoarding memes.

>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside USA
Belgium

>If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.
I'd like the price to go around €700, less if possible while still having enough performance for the stated purpose of my pc. As well as just critizing what could be better.
No mouse, keyboard or monitor (my monitor LG 24M35) needed.

€192.80 Intel Core i5-6400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
€54.95 MSI H110M ECO
€39.00 Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
€39.00 Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
€79.90 Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
€77.90 Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
€202,78 XFX AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB Single Fan Triple X
€63.90 EVGA 430W Power Supply
€54.50 Corsair Carbide 100R
+-----
€804,73 TOTAL

I'm looking to upgrade my current SSD, which is an 840 EVO of 120 GB. I'm looking at either getting the 850 PRO or 950 PRO, at 500 GB. Which should I go with?

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>Current setup
AMD Phenom 965 BE (4Ghz oc
GTX 750ti

I realize both of them are shitty and i'm worried about bottlenecking so i'm wondering whether to upgrade the CPU or GPU first.

>GTX 1060
>~$220

or

>I3-6100 and Mobo
>~$2100

Currently leaning towards the cpu/mobo but I want some input before I pull the trigger as a poorfag

>>58094925
G2 550W

>>58095166
>SATA vs. M.2
>apples vs. oranges

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mw4fxY

I shall name it Ypres

>>58095475
You shall name it retarded build.

Hi, I'm looking to upgrade a bit to a computer catering more towards heavy CAD stuff. My PC is mostly a mash up of parts that were on sale/replacements that were purchased as things broke down over time, so it'll seem like a bit of a mess.
Occasionally I'll probably play some Dota2/StarcraftII/Path of Exile.

Budget of ~$1000CAD
Also would like to power 3 monitors. (All 1080p)

Current Build:
Corsaire GS700 700W
EVGA Nvidia GTX760 2GB
Crucial MX300 750GB 2.5 inch SSD
R4 Define
Corsair 16GB DDR3 RAM (Bought this years ago... Can't remember model number)
i5-4300

I don't need more hard drives; I have lots.

I want to build a PC for video editing, what would be the difference between the build of an Editing PC to a Gaming PC?

>>58095575
You can get an i7 non overclockable for your mobo, hardly any difference haswell to the new Kabylake stuff coming up. Get to keep your ram this way.
I recommend a new gpu for CAD rendering though. Gtx 1060-6gb and Rx 480 are pretty much the same performance. Just decide red or green. Keep everything else.

Hey guys, I'm not too knowledge about PC building but I plan to build one and I can get my hands on an i7-6850K or an i7-6700K for less then 200. Now I wasn't planning on spending a lot, so do these processors only fit in a more expensive build for gaming or can I use these in a ~$750 build?

>>58095791
Gaming? 6700k is better. Still pretty tight for a $750 budget. Only leaves $550 to play with. Do you count the OS and monitor as part of your budget?

>>58095791
6850k only fits in the x99 chipset, which will be significantly more expensive, with little benefits if you're gaming.

>>58095854
No I didn't include those are part of the budget. What would you estimate a gaming build around the 6700K to cost, taking into consideration that I can get it for ~130

>>58095917
Wherever you are getting this 6700k so cheap, how much does an i5-6500 or 6600k cost? This will determine a lot.

>>58096065
Through my job, but unfortunately I can only get those two i7's for dirt cheap

In skylake, do you need to overclock your CPU to overclock your memory (have it at its highest rated speed)? I hear people say this but I thought this was a thing of the past when we didn't have the multiplier unlocked?

>>58096095
$825 if you want to get a little overclock on it. My recommendation is leaving it all on stock settings to not stress this weak PSU. Then you can get a slightly cheaper motherboard and CPU cooler, bringing back to your original budget a bit.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L86tLD

>>58096234
thank you, I appreciate it. How does that graphics card compare to a 1060?

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What can I do to make this a better office computer?

>>58095158
Also dont need to be overclocked.

>>58096360
Almost exactly the same as a 1060.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkhcgL
Here's a list without overclocking btw. $800.

>>58096391
Cheaper or what? There's a lot of questionable parts there. What do you use it for? Is this for business? Home use? Programming? Casual web browsing?

>>58094381
Fuck TN panels. 100hz is plenty given the IPS gainz

If you have an NVIDIA card, get one of the G-Sync capable monitors: Acer Predator x34 or an ASUS PG348Q. Whichever is cheaper (many prefer the Predator, from what I've seen personally)

If you have an AMD card, get the Freesync capable Acer Predator XR341CK - this monitor comes out of the box @ 75hz, but most are capable of an 100hz OC. Also $300- $400 cheaper than the first two gsync monitors.

>>58096360
It's slower than the 1060 at stock speeds and even slower when you compare them both overclocked. There's no reason to consider the 480 unless you want a slower, useless card that eats power compared to the faster, more efficient, and highly overclockable 1060.

>>58096464
business and the price is ok Im just wondering if I could do better parts for things like Microsoft office and very light rendering

>>58088657
>>58088739
Don't forget air cooling lasts longer, that's why I decided to save $80 and get an aircooler

>>58096555
also not so big of a computer

>>58094027
>ram performance = high fps
Good luck with that, some kind of ram-heavy program that swaps on a massive scale is a better benchmark of ram, better than a game who's performance is 60% GPU, 30% CPU and 1% having over 4Gb of ram

>>58094381
PG278Q, fuck IPS panels
>>58094900
It might not work using xmp

>>58096555
well if the case isn't windowed, get the actual cheapest ram you can find. You don't really need platinum PSU either, gold is more than sufficient. Given that this whole machine uses the power of 3-4 lightbulbs, spending more in that area will take about 5-8 years to "pay off" in terms of electric bill.
I don't trust Asus low-end mobos. Their high end stuff (sabertooth TUF series) is great, but ehh. I'd rather go with asrock or msi personally.

the gpu you're buying is probably less powerful than the intel graphics. If you want an actual step up for the rendering, get a gtx 750ti / 950/ 1050 whatever is cheapest. They all run off only motherboard power.
I strongly recommend you don't use wifi on a desktop, but if you /need/ to that isn't a bad adapter.
I think the $19-25 extra for a 1920x1080 monitor will be well worth it. Extra screen space is nice for office stuff. e

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>>58096683
>is rather go with asrock or MSI motherboards

>>58096659
Did you look at the benchmark...? Games are the only benchmark I care about because that's the only reason I would ever buy faster ram.

>>58096729
Well it's situational, a case by case basis, and the best you can hope for is 4 more fps
I'm gonna say get the highest frequency ram that is less than $10 more than stock 2133mhz (3000mhz is usually a good price, 3200mhz starts getting expensive quick)
Don't overspend expecting better performance, but if you want faster ram then at least get a good deal

>>58086247
desu I think the 6600k may be better but the 6500 isn't a bad choice either.

>>58096729
I almost was surprised but then I realized its DDR3, DDR4 is what nets you maybe 4fps by spending twice as much

>>58086642
dat chrome theme

>>58096786
Well the price difference between 2133 and 3000 is like 20 bucks.

>>58096812
Two months ago stock speed ddr4 was $63 and I bought 3000mhz for $68
This shit goes on sale every single day, look around

>>58096723
Well let's review our options here for mainstream lowend motherboards.
>MSI
>Asus
>Asrock
>Gigabyte
>those two or three biostar boards
I've had several gigabyte boards die on me, so I won't recommend them to anybody. Asus's low end products don't get the same level of care and development their high end stuff does. They also have notoriously bad customer service if you have any issues.
Granted, Asrock doesn't have a great track record either. That pretty much only leaves MSI, which is what I usually buy. Mid/High level go with MSI or Asus.

>>58096848
I'm hoping for some spicy sales after christmas, but sadly the NAND shortage is driving up ram prices right now.

>>58096856
MSI has the same kind of track record as asrock, I personally thought they were dead in the motherboard market last time I built a PC
People like gigabytes ultra durable stuff but clearly they haven't had one die on then either

>>58096907
So what you're saying is they all have problems and just go with the design/ features/ price you like

>>58097119
Pretty much, all motherboards are chinkshit

>>58095553
How is it retarded?

>>58097176
First time builder?

>>58097176
If you downgraded the motherboard (Z170 is for overclockable CPUs and ram), and got a non-blower 1060, it wouldn't be so retarded

Should i get 6500, 6600K, 6700K if i found one on a good sale, or wait for Zen?
Fuck AMD for not already releasing it or giving us at least more information on Summit Ridge.

>>58097452
6600k for gaming, definitely.

is this bad ? http://h20386.www2.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=X6F76AA&opt=ABL&mastersku=X6F76AA&masteropt=ABL&sel=DTP

>>58097495
Primarily for work (webdev and some programming, maybe some photoshop/indesign) & min 4 year future proofing, that's why i also included the 6700K.
I am really in conflict right now, a 6500 build will cost me about 650, 6600K like 750-850 and 6700K up to 1K. European by the way, so jewish prices.

>>58097311
Also not spending $99 on a case, also not spending for a 212 evo for no discernible reason on a chip that can't overclock. Or just got a 6600k.

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>>58097452
Personally I'd say wait as long as you can.. tech only gets better and prices go down, generally.

>>58097597
The i7 will last a long ass time, but personally if you're not gaming, i5 6500 is the only sensible choice.

>>58096755
You are a fucking cunt. If you want to delude yourself, fine. But don't confuse the anons in this thread

>>58096391
>>58096555
Drop to i3 6100, use integrated graphics instead of a silly gfx card like the 230 unless you need multimonitor. Not sure why you're getting the 230

Consider a mini ITX build

>>58096219
>In skylake, do you need to overclock your CPU to overclock your memory
No

>>58095475
Straight outta logical increments
But seriously check the pcbg pcpartpicker link in the OP. Can pay $200 less for the same specs

>>58095169
Upgrade both at the same time.

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>>58097707
>if you're not gaming, i5 6500 is the only sensible choice.
Even for a minimum of four years for primarily work? My 6 year old Lynnfield i7 870 is ded and i'd rather invest into a new future proof machine for another 4-6 years.
Currently i'm kinda getting by with an i5-4200U laptop, but it's not a very pleasant experience. I start my IDE, everything else just goes bye.
For me it's either now over the holidays or wait until late april / early may, because i'll have a buttload of work to do.
I really want AMD to have a great comeback and get a Zen system, but it's so long until then and the CPU that will release in Q1 is no choice for me, everything else is still a gamble.
It will likely cost approximately 500 USD and it doesn't even have an integrated GPU which means another 150 bucks for a 1050/ti or RX460. That's way to expensive for me.

>>58097963
>i5-4200U
m8, that's a 2c / 4t CPU with a 2.6GHz clockspeed. WAY worse than an i3 6100 (2c / 4t, ~4GHz). The i5 6500 is miles ahead of that.

>>58076440
That picture. .. two naked daleks ;)