/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for "first for"

>>58030721
>page 3
>going 1 page an hour
>OH I KNOW ILL MAKE A NEW THREAD
retard

>>58030873
yo, wheres the upvote feature? i want everyone to be able to see this comment

>>58030895
>>58030825
why does every thread have to start with shitposting kill yourselves, you make linux look like the league of legends general on /vg/

>>58030920
just tell me where the feature is.

why is the linux community so toxic?

>>58030959
why wont you tell me?
also this general have been on a strong decline. i cant even the remember the last time someone came with a valid question

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>>58030920
Many wintoddlers frequent ITT, it's no wonder edgy ones would kill to post their dankest baits first

And the thread just reflects the kind of people shitposts here

>>58030998
Stop namefagging.

>>58030998
don't agree with me i dislike you too namefag

>>58031014
Oh boy here we go again

>>58030998
see: >>58031014
this isn't reddit

>>58031017
maybe a new rule to the website should finally be implemented if it derails discussion so much. oh wait i know, how about "using names/trips when it is irrelevant to the discussion" being a bannable offense

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>>58031014
>>58031016
>>58031027
Does my name tickle your autism?

This is a friendly thread.
Please be friendly.

>>58031036
are you guys the 'neo'-neo-/g/? get used to it already.

Literally the main reason I use Unity (Ubuntu) is because it's hardware-accelerated/composited out of the box

Are those WMs like Awesome or i3 also hardware accelerated/composited or can they be? I didn't like how Xfeces was clunky to set up for compositing even though I got it working okay with Compton.

(didn't get a clear answer to this in the last thread)

>>58031042
>chrome
>whatsapp
heh

>>58031056
>>58031042
fuck off back to R[spoiler][/spoiler]eddit.

>>58031036
Does it bother you?

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>>58030959
Toxic? Never seen it. We are fuwafuwa and kirakira.

>>58031077
>using spoilers
i take that as an extremely loud 'yes'

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>>58031077
>hurr durr reddit iz bad XDDDDDDD
Time to go back to /b/, little faggot

>>58031091
He uses spoilers because he's used to /v/

>>58031091
>>58031093
cry more, people will always continue to complain nothing you can do to stop it

>>58031109
>cry more, people will always continue to complain nothing you can do to stop it
nice reversal! i almost thought i was crying.

>/fglt/

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>>58031130
It's hard to not take the fucking b8.

>>58031066
>I didn't like how Xfeces was clunky to set up for compositing

>clicking one checkbox is "clunky to set up"

typical braindead xfce hater

If you don't use systemd you're just a hipster luddite afraid of progress.

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>>58031241

>>58031233
>>58031241

>wasting your first post of the thread on this

>>58031241
I don't care if you are too hip for systemd. But just don't even try to shove your sophisticated UNIX philosophy in others' way

>>58031066
You need to install compton and start it in .xinitrc to use compositing with i3 and awesome.

>>58031248
This will be the real Donald again after 2020.

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>>58031544

>>58031573
>>>/r9k/ :^)

>>58031629
>>
That SJW friendly bot made me leave that board permanently

>>58031645
>t. KDE women

>>58031233
I used xfeces for about 2 full years, I'm hardly a random hater, I hate it because I used it and it was clunky shit.
>>58031313
Thanks, didn't realize it would just be compton across all WMs but that makes sense I guess. I don't rice much which is why I don't know all this cool stuff, which is also why I was glad Ubongo just did it out of the box.

People who shit on Ubuntu really don't get why millions flock to it, it's the reasonably good default setup, pure and simple.

>he's using a DE
Are people really too retarded to choose their own applications? I understand that a DE with tandom terminal, random browser, text editor etc is useful for newcomers, but why would a poweruser brack baout "my DE is better than yours"? Grow up and choose your own software faggets.

>>58032158
I'm on Arch btw

>>58032158
read this you arch niglet >>58032128
>which is also why I was glad Ubongo just did it out of the box.
>People who shit on Ubuntu really don't get why millions flock to it, it's the reasonably good default setup, pure and simple.
Then triple-kill yourself

>>58032158
Why would a power user brag about being able to choose his own software?

I'm looking to buy a laptop when I go abroad to work. Which would be a good one, to allow me to do some programming while also serve as a work laptop for ubuntu?

>>58032536
What kind of laptop that runs Ubuntu wouldn't allow you to do some programming?

>>58032536
Thinkpads have good linux support. Stay away from surface pro, it has poor linux support. Hope that helps.

>>58032590
>>58032778
Wait sorry, what I meant was, if you can recommend me one that will run good in the ~1k range.

Vim question, don't know where else to ask. Does anyone know if I can map a key to a command but make it not actually run until I hit enter? I want to basically be able to bring up :tabe in normal mode when I hit a key instead of actually typing :tabe.

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what the hell is debian's excuse for staying on such old kernels?

>>58033088
>muh stability

Does anyone else here use livestreamer? It keeps suddenly close the stream on me and I can't figure out why.

>>58033720
youtube-dl

>league of legends is in the AUR
That's pretty cool.

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>>58033809

>>58033809
i use arch, if that matters

>>58033088
There is none

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>>58033809
4/10

>>58033923
Stop namefagging.

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>>58033809
Holy fuck lol
Thanks based AUR

>>58030721
I'm using a browser called surf from suckless.org. How do I make it my default browser?

>>58033978
install gentoo

>>58033944
Does it trigger you?

>>58033088
Older does not mean bad.

>>58033088
4.8 is old?

>>58034013
Yeah it is bad. For people that don't use poorfag hardware from the past decade.

>>58034038
debian ships with 3.16

>>58034040
If you honestly must use a newer kernel and you cannot upgrade it yourself. I simply do not know what to say other than you belong on /v/.

>>58033088
They are older, buts its not like they aren't maintained. They get security fixes and select backports from newer kernels. If you want new packages, you should use debian sid, although you are giving up some stability.

>>58034053
Stable maybe. But why would you use it for the desktop? Sid is recommended for desktop use.

>>58034059
What's the point of an up to date kernel when y your mesa is from the stoneage?

>>58034059
I'd rather use the latest software packages with the latest kernel instead of poorly put together ancient piece of shit distro in a superficial delusion of ""((stability))""

>>58034099
>I'm a shitposting namefag who has no idea what I'm doing so I need my hand held the entire time.

>it's another scene of debian-is-outdated memes
So boring.

>>58034090
Whats the point of mesa when you are running thousands of debian servers?

Also compiling mesa isn't that hard.

>>58034099
>poorly put together ancient piece of shit distro
yep, goverments, the nasa, etc all run arch because le fresh packages :^)

>>58030721
>top new Linux

I don't get it.

>>58034160
The NASA actually lvld up to Ubuntu.

>>58034160
Oh look who we got here, NASA himself Lel

Enjoying your 2.16 kernel?

>>58034099
You've clearly never run anything at scale if you think brand spanking new kernels are stable.

Yeah it may only suffer 1 crash every 2 years, but if you are running data centers worth of servers, that means you'll spend all day, every day, putting out fires instead of building new things.

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>>58034176

Does a good alternative for livestreamer exist? It keeps interrupting videos.

>>58034199
Data servers use older kernel because they don't update and the older kernels do not have hot patching

>>58034180
which is basically debian with added shuttlecock

>>58034212
youtube-dl

>>58034212
It keeps closing mpv on me even if I say player-no-close. I have no idea what it's doing this because it shouldn't.

>>58034226
>>58034189
>>58034099
>>58034040

Could you please explain why you're acting like Debian Sid doesn't exist, which is up-to-date like Arch Linux?

>>58034212
mpv+chatty

>>58034269
Debian Sid has no security advisories/patches. It's even in their website.

>>58034269
He's a troll who enjoys triggering people.
Just don't reply and enjoy your day.

>>58034299
This. Namefags are subhuman and you really shouldn't reply to them in the first place.

>>58032855
pls respond

>>58034253
Yeah , I got the exact same problem sa you.

>>58034297
wtf I hate debian now

>>58034239
I want to stream videos not to download them.

>>58034351
mpv uses youtube-dl to stream.

>>58034351
Then stream them. Use youtube-dl and a player.

>>58034217
>i don't know how things work in enterprise
It doesn't really matter what your desktop runs but I want stable over all the servers, it's also easy as hell to patch stuff yourself but I guess you are far away from that.

>>58034363
>>58034368
How I can do this?

>>58034217
Do you think servers never get replace or rebooted? I build out new datacenters all the time, but I'm not going to put 4.11 on them because there is a lot of code that needs to prove itself before it is ready for the big time.

You are right that kpatch was only added in 4.0, but you are demonstrating how much you don't know if you think that is the only way to hotpatch the kernel. Various solutions for that have been around for a decade. Besides, you can basically only use hotpatching for very small changes. For instance none of the hotpatchers that I'm aware of have the ability to apply patches that include changes to data structures in the kernel. So you can go from 4.4.0-52 to 4.4.0-53, but you can't go from 4.4.0-53 to 4.11.0-1. There is also a performance penalty to the kernel because you have to intercept function calls and map them to the replacement code.

>>58034396
mpv <link>

>>58034379
People in enterprise are retarded. Arch linux is stable and secure, corporations should be using arch linux, but they don't because they're stupid and don't know linux.

>>58034297
Because it gets fixes upstream already. Read the docs.

>>58034297
You only need security advisories if you are running at scale and you don't run at scale with sid.

>>58034396
Install mpv, install youtube-dl. Then mpv *url*

>>58034460
Why does this work better than livestreamer? It hasn't closed on me yet?

>>58034460
Ty anon.

>>58034379
meh, Not only do kernel updates bring with it security fixes, but it can fix other issues that could possibly make the system crash through regular use. Some people argue that constantly updating the kernel actually decreases the overall system stability because you’ll be running on a kernel that you’ve never used, so you cannot assume that it will work as well as the kernel you were previously running on. While this is also true, that margin is rather slim, and only people who run servers or other important systems really need to be cautious. For most normal consumer-type users, updating your kernel outweighs those issues by a lot.

Also many major updates to the kernel improve the overall speed of the system. While some changes can be very subtle, others aren’t and can make a big difference, such as the famed 200-line patch (see https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1 ) that increased the overall productivity of a Linux machine by quite a bit. There are even some crazier changes such as this, where Linux can run off of zero CPU cores (see https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA4MTc ). If you’re a speed demon (and I know many of you who use Google Chrome are), this is a good way to get a bit more juice out of your hardware.

>>58034504
please stop namefagging

>>58034580
Does it trigger you?

>>58034587
you're welcome to jack off to yourself at reddit, why not go there?

What's the "right" way to encrypt large files on GNU/Linux?

Is containers and dm-crypt the best approach?

The biggest problem seems to be having enough space for the container and the content. Is there something glaringly obvious that I am missing?

>>58034623
Seems it does.

How about now?

What are some cool and useful cli progams? I discovered aria2 recently and now is my default download manager. Atool is a great one too.

>>58034626
>container and the content.
What?
Just use gpg. The container is all you need.When you open it access the data when you're done you just seal it back up
You should never have multiple copies at the same time

>>58034641
https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/

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How plausible is pic related?

>>58034652
>use gpg
but the problem with gpg is that it doesn't delete the original data after encrypting (unless you extend its functionality with scripting). This means you essentially need double the space of the original file to encrypt. Unless I'm missing something obvious there is no way to make gpg encrypt and only keep the encrypted version.

>>58034430
>retarded
Good luck with your shitty distro, we run ~400 Gentoo servers I can say that Gentoo runs perfectly fine and secure see ( hardened Gentoo ).
You might wanna learn how to run shit yourself instead of installing bins.

>>58034724
i dont think that post was ment to be taken seriously anon

>>58034683
DELET THIS

>>58034741
Doesn't matter :)

>>58030721
Torvalds actually flies fighter jets on his spare time tho

>>58034683
>obama is compromised
is he implying obama is a computer?

>>58034683
>plausible
DNS spoofing is a thing, compromising a server too. If it actually happened is a different thing.

guys where did the friendly arch generals dissapear to?
i use arch btw in case it matters

>>58034794
>where did the friendly arch generals dissapear to?
Should I make one?

Except for the userbase, is there any reason why Arch is not the best distro?
- secure
- fresh packages
- breaking is a meme
https://www.archlinux.org/news/

You're all just jealous that I use Arch Linux.

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who is richard stallman info graphic

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>>58034857
Nonfree software.

>>58034881
You can use what ever software/firmware you want.

>>58034857
broken python

>>58030959
>why is the linux community so toxic?

This is 4chan. All 4chan is /b/
If you come to 4chan for anything beyond porn, trolls and shitposting you are too stupid to go to real forums with real information so suck it up, buttercup.

>>58034913
No python software is broken

>>58034910
It shouldn't come with nonfree software out of the box.

>>58034914
>real forums
Where i have to:
Create a user profile
Forced to interact as a new user
Forced to abide by their " rules" and "standards"

>>58034928
Why do you stallmanist insit that everything has to be one way? You get to choose what software/firmware you want. Blocking either option is no better then being forced too,which you stallmanist can only handle.People have a choice

>>58034928
Your fault for not using parabola

>>58034928
New PCs don't work with free softawre because they REQUIRE early microcode updates. Not everybody uses only a thinkpad from 1973.

>>58034971
WIth only free software***

>>58034921
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Educate yourself about the differences and especially the incompatibility between python2 and python3. Arch devs are literally so extreme retarded, that they link python, which should point to python2 (like every other distro correctly does), to python3 because "muh bleeding edge". They don't understand that python3 is incompatible to python2, which literally breaks EVERY program with python2 syntax and module names.

>>58035009
>using python

>>58034971
Why buying cuckold hardware in the first place?

>>58035030
because you're into it!

>>58035009
*sigh*
>this butthurt toddler again

Show me one python program that is broken in Arch. One.

You might try
>Deluge
Works
>Mailnag
Works
>Cinnamon applets
Work
>mailnag
Works

Go on. Post one that is broken.
Here:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=

>>58034857
>- secure
>- fresh packages
nice logic

>>58035126
>packages go in to <testing> repo
>check for insecurities, check for bugs
>address status
>push to <main> repo

You arent even trying anymore

>>58034881
You do realize that the imageboard software you are using right now is proprietary and closed source, correct?

>>58035071
Since you're the stupid toddler here, I'll help you.

Let's start with module names.

python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080

While this command will work on all distros and serve to current directory, but on Arch it will fail, because the python3 module is called "http.server" instead of "SimpleHTTPServer".

In the same way, all programs that use python2 syntax, module names, etc will and do break on Arch Linux.

>>58030721
Why do freetards always steal the work of others? Where does this sense of entitlement comes from?

>>58035184
why isn't there a single distribution that just does everything right? ;_;

>>58035283
Because developers are human beans and human beans cause bugs.

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>>58035283
http://debian.org/

>>58035283
But Gentoo does everything correctly.

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>>58035555
Except that it shills malware.

>>58035387
He said "right", not "wrong".

>>58035555
>quads of truth
clap clap clap clap
I will be installing gentoo then,

so im little retardet and i've tried installing spacemacs
i emoved .emacs git clone spacemacs and run emacs but nothing happens

>>58035628
Make sure your version of emacs is supported (I think you need at least emacs24).

>>58035610
(You)

>>58035596
Providing a guide for users who already decided to search for it is not the equivalent of shilling.

>>58035674
25.1.1
do i have to downgrade?

>>58035718
https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs#emacs

>>58035596
lel, even arch linux is warning it's users https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/skype#Restricting_Skype_access
why is gentoo such a failure?

So I followed the gentoo handbook, did everything up to rebooting. At the grub menu gentoo isn't there, just the kubuntu install on the other hdd in my laptop.

Do I even bother trying to fix this or should I just start over again? I followed the book exactly I don't even know where to start troubleshooting it.

>>58036143
>falling for the gentoo meme

>installing debian
>want to try many DEs, so mark every available DE for instalation
>taking forever to install
Kill me

>>58030721
Anyone know why my GRUB theme is fucked up? I upgraded from Fedora 21 to Fedora 25 and now when it boots it says it can't find the background image and then GRUB loads as white text on a black background. I've checked and the image is where it is supposed to be, it's in the correct format and resolution, etc.

>>58036232
>fedora
found your problem

>>58036231
When you're finished, run

sudo apt-get install .*

to install all programs in existence so you can try them all.

>>58036301
>curious
>try it
>expect error
>screen starts scolling
>^C ^C ^C HELP
holy shit man

>>58036301
>install all programs in existence
I don't think I can handle it

>>58036251
This is the first real problem I've had in a long time. I have tried other distros (OpenSUSE, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Debian) and Fedora gave me the least issues getting things configured how I want them without spending days on wikis.

>>58036301
>>58036323
>>58036324
>makes debian vm

>>58036143
>just the kubuntu install on the other hdd in my laptop.
Do you have GRUB on said HDD?
If so, try to boot from the HDD with Gentoo.
If not, you haven't configured GRUB correctly before rebooting.
In that case, you just have to chroot into your system again and just run

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

. OR you didn't install the kernel into /boot. Which could also happen. So, you might have to do that instead of the GRUB thing.
Perhaps even both.

How am I supposed to manage the additional drivers on debian?

>>58036589
read the rules, le-mans require a switch out every few hours iirc

>>58036585
So i can't boot back into the gentoo installing thing I had going before (on sdb), so I'm, using the kubuntu install on the other HDD (sda). How do i run commands the effect the gentoo install?

>>58036705
install gentoo

Which is better, mpd+ncmpcpp or cmus?

>>58036739
mpd+hotkeys

>>58036739
bluez-alsa and a cellphone

>>58036739
The one I'm using.

>>58036739
mpv

I installed to dual boot 2 different OS - antergos and solus linux - and that they both installed fine, but when I boot i don't get grub but straight into windows. Using super grub disk i can boot into linux fine, but i cant without using it.

the original os was win 7 pro downgraded from win 10. the computer is a thinkpad t460.

thanks guys!

so when i try to use chan thread watcher with mono when i click add thread it crash.
Any other downloader? Everything i found work only in thread or have random errors

>>58036787
no problem

>>58036788
wget

>>58036787
I had this same problem on my t460. There's actually a physical switch somewhere on the motherboard that you have to disable.
This turns off the new proprietary standard that lenovo has started using in some of the newer models called "safe switch."

It's kind of like the bootloader on a phone where it prevents any changes from being made to the bootloader so it won't let you install grub.
I wasn't able to find any guides on this online, but I figure it out myself pretty easily. If you open the bottom and post a picture I can walk you through it.

>>58036705
allright fug so it just appeared in grub without me doing anything. maybe I was just out of my mind when I gave up last night at 2am.

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How can I create a bootable windows 10 USB on fedora?

I have the ISO. How do I get it on there in my OS?

>>58036855
>>>/sqt/

>>58036855
there is too much wrong in that image.

>>58036855
Why would you want to boot malware?

>>58036855
you can't.
Funny thing about making a windows ISO is that you need to use the windows media creation tool which is only available on windows or os x.

>>58036905
this is bullshit

>>58036905
rufus works so dd probably does too.

>>58036916
ur bullshit

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>>58030721
can't wait for Wayland, with it we can ditch X11 cancer and move on to actual modern UI designs

>>58036941
nice bait! you'll have to wait 10 more years though.

>>58036941
The display server hardly has anything to do with UI design and X11 isn't going anywhere in the near future.
We will actually lose features and will need to gradually fill holes left by those.
Another related thing is that Wayland is being gimped in some areas because security considerations, a lot of people use environments where said security issues aren't a concern.
So we end up with a lot of usage cases that compositors need to fill, yet again extending the protocol. So we are doing fragmentation even before the project is in widespread use.
Most likely more extensions will crop up with graphics stacks etc.
We might end in situations where say kwin doesn't support proprietary nvidia drivers, but mutter does.

Wayland maybe the future, but it's no looking so bright anymore is it?

>>58036941
Welcome to /fglt/. Please select your bait:

>sjw
>systemd
>wm vs de
>communism
>cli vs gui
>bash vs zsh
>gnu vs linux
>x11 vs wayland
>arch vs debian
>1337 vs it-just-werks

You have selected:
>[x] x11 vs wayland

Your current stats:
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- You counter: 2
- Bait counter: 1
- BTFO counter: 0

>>58037189
I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

Is debian decent as a daily use desktop or is it more suited to servers?

>>58037224
Both.

>>58037224
stable for the server
testing for the desktop
unstable for cutting edge

>>58034449
>you don't run at scale with sid.

Because it doesn't have advisories

>>58037224
None

>>58037287
too stable (read old) to be of any use to anyone
testing is just frozen stable
unstable breaks more than other distro, arch never breaks in comparison

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what did it mean by this?

>>58037910
it means if you're on gentoo DONT FUCKING DO THAT!!!! HOLY SHIT!

>>58037922
How to fix?

>>58037964
sudoku

>>58038014
which method?

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Gents,
I'm installing Arch on a brand-new SSD that I got today and I'd like to implement full disk encryption.

I've been looking at Arch wiki and options for dm-crypt and it appears that I cannot use LUKS because that fucks up TRIM.

From the Wiki, it appears that the best option for SSD drives is #Plain dm-crypt.

Does anyone know if that's right or has done this and can offer me some advice?

Thanks!

>>58038164
install generation two

>>58038262
this a /fglt/, pls no bully/memes/shitposting.

>>58038270
its real though

>>58038273
my Q has nothing to do with the actual base OS. even if I were to install gentoo, I'd need to partition first. so installing gentoo won't do shit to solve my problem... or are you too dumb to see that?!

>>58038288
holdup , why are you talking about gentoo!?

>>58038288
this a /fglt/, pls no bully/memes/shitposting.

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>switch from X11 tiler to Sway (Wayland clone of i3)
>configure profile-sync-daemon for Firefox and Qutebrowser
>install acpilight to allow xbacklight functionality without X running
>mfw
Holy FUCK, Wayland is fast and smooth. There are a few bugs in big, ugly X programs that don't stay within their toolkits (Firefox, Emacs) but porting work is underway.

>>58038164
There's no way to do proper encryption of any sort with TRIM on an SSD since you're leaking data by allowing the firmware to reshuffle shit around. If your threat model is just random nogs stealing your laptop then go ahead and turn TRIM on, but if you're worried about state actors leave it off.

>>58038694
Wish I could make the switch. But I needs the nvidia proprietaries

>>58038694
Ye i liked it a lot on gnome. Does anyone know if there is someone porting dwm?

>>58038786
https://github.com/michaelforney/velox
It's not dwm exactly but it's based on the same paradigm.

>>58038733
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverresults.aspx/100577/en-us

Looks like that's in the pipeline. Have you tried the beta driver?

>>58038820
That's great news, I thought we were a long way off before having a solution to this.
I'll still probably wait until it makes it into their normal driver releases though. (mostly because I don't see the beta driver in my repositories)

>>58038728
wew lad

>>58038795
It is but i kinda really like the multi tagging and the configuration in dwm. I will test it this evening but can you tell me if it supports border snapping in floating mode and starting certain specified programs in floating mode by default somewhere? Didn't find the relevant line.
Thanks for the recommendation though.

>>58038728
Thanks anon. So... I should basically go with dm-crypt + LUKS. Leave boot partition unencrypted and just encrypt the root. Will that work well with SSDs?

>>58028032
turns out that I think linuxes don't like my built in speakers. using an earphone it seems there is no distortion.

I hate this shit called linux but I have to get good at it. what do?

>>58039267
Install debian gnu/kfreebsd

>>58039288
I tried debian but i wasn't able to make that shit recognize my video card

>>58039299
So basically you are a slave of your gpu company that makes proprietary drivers for no valid reason and you were too inexperienced to add nonfree to your repos?

Does GPU passthough mean I can play /any/ native windows game with no weird WINE bugs?
I want to fully convert to linux but muh games.
Linux is pretty comfy, I have a linux server and it's on my laptop.

>>58039328
I've followed the guide at debian's site but it didn't work. All I got was a black screen before the login screen.
I've tried more than once btw.

>>58039072
Yep.

>>58039366
GPU passthrough gives you a full Windows VM for muhgaemz, with real direct access to your GPU. The only bug you have to watch out for is that if you have the Nvidia driver, Nvidia will periodically push updates to block you using geforce cards in a VM until the KVM devs find another workaround. They do this because they make fucktons of money on selling Quadro cards for people using GPUs on servers and don't want to give up the shekels. If you have an AMD card it pretty much just werkz.

>>58039459
Thanks anon.

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Question for the pros. I'm looking at LVM for my PC with a bunch of disks and haev a quick question about Logical Volumes in a particular group. If I set one logical volume to 40GB and other to remaining space and if I don't use 40G volume much, will that space be wasted? I remember reading about volumes that grow as space is needed but can't remember it anymore.

Anyone know how this stuff works?

installing kde on ubuntu. I hope it doesn't break everything.

>>58036855
Those are big guys!

>>58030721
Requesting help again

>>58012924
Anyone?

>>58039977
You are almost always better off using mdadm to handle the disk juggling and combining (you even get RAID status info in /proc/mdstat!) and using LVM on top of that.

>>58040485
thanks anon!

How to fork an existing process?

>>58033088
Stability, reliability, ease of maintenance

Also
>what is backports?

>>58035596
>2016
>still using the skype native client on any os
>still using skype

If you have to use skype at least use the web client.
Don't install malware on your system.

> Fantastic idiotic movement from Ubuntu. If for whatever reason I need to page-out because of memory shortage, now I know that it will crawl even more if I use Ubuntu, thanks to having to cross the filesystem layer to reach the storage. They should call the distribution Microsoft-Linux and recommend it only to desktops.

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/918704-ubuntu-to-begin-making-use-of-swapfiles-in-place-of-swap-partitions?p=918752#post918752

I don't know much about swap space, partitions and hard drive internals to dispute him, but it sounds like he's an idiot who has no idea what he's talking about.
How is this going to make the access times significantly slower (or faster)? It's still on the same disk, his disk still has to spin.
Holy shit how can someone be this retarded? Apparently he's such a power-user that he knows what he's talking about, but apparently he doesn't know how to turn the swapfile off and use a partition again.

>>58038694

>test Wayland with GNOME
>resize a window
>it's the smoothest thing I've ever seen
>move the window around
>no tearing, no artefacts, just a window moving around

I don't know why, but it was oddly satisfying. God it was so smooth and snappy.

>>58035184

>work on all distros

Except those where a person uninstalls Python or those where a person doesn't install Python.

>he's still trying to find that one idiot who will believe him, just so he can finally tell himself and his mother that he's not a retard for making the claim

>>58040700
This post gave an idea.

>>58040700
I suppose it a mechanical disk especially with a bad filesystem (like ntfs) and with a single partition it makes a difference because a swapfile that resizes could increase fragmentation a lot and slow down file access

But in a SSD I don't think it makes a difference and it's easier to maintain. A good move imo.

>>58030721
Where did the BSD General go? Why no more?

Can I request a beginner BSD distro here?

>>58040748
Freebsd if you read the manual. Debian/kFreeBSD if you are interested.

>>58040726

But no one uses ntfs for his Linux partitions.
Speaking of ntfs, I hate it so much in combination with Linux. It fucks up file permissions and makes everything 777. Whenever I have to copy something from an USB flash drive I want to kill myself.

>>58040873
Exactly, Linux file systems are good at avoiding fragmentation and with SSD the physical position of data on the drive doesn't make a difference as it did in mechanical drives

So it makes sense to abandon the swap partition because it makes things easier to figure out for new Linux users. Experienced Linux administrators can always use a swap partition if they prefer.

>>58040873
NTFS is good for usb hard disks because it makes file sharing easy with any OS and you can connect the disk to a TV

Before NTFS-3G I had to have 3 partition on every external disk, one EXT3 for Linux, one FAT32 for file sharing with Windows, and one NTFS because fat didn't support >4GB files. It sucked.

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>>58040748
GhostBSD.

Just downladed Linux Bible 9th Edition into my Kindle, is it any good?

>>58040721
>what are dependencies

>>58041712

They're packages required to make some other packages work in the package context, or libraries or other programs certain programs depend on.
I don't see what it has to do with your retarded claim. Nevertheless, any sane distribution adjusts its packages and does... no, sorry. I still don't understand your retarded, no-sequitur claim.

>>58041873
well, he posted proof, tried it myself, it didn't work and I had to start the program explicitly with python2 to make it work
easy to fix tho, just linked python back to pyton2 and everything works

>>58041502
Well, you've already downloaded it.
Why not read it and tell us if it's any good?

>>58041918
>admits that Arch comes broken out of the box
>needs to "fix" his distro so it works correctly

>>58041873
If you install a python program, you'll have to install python to run it. Easy like that.
>any sane distribution adjusts its packages
So you're trying to tell me that Arch patches all python programs in order to justify the retarded decision to fuck up a link? That sounds funny, but if far away from reality.

>>58041918
>not linking python to perl, perl to ruby and ruby to python2
>no fun allowed

>>58041978
>he can't read wiki pages
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/python#Installation

>>58042055
>he's using a broken distro
>he needs to fix retarded defaults

>>58041918

>it doesn't work

Obviously it doesn't work because it's a different programming language. Do you also try running Ruby modules with Python 2?

>>58041978

Yes, it patches those required. With patching, they mean adding python2 in the shebang. The majority of Python libraries have been ported to 3, but they still keep the 2 versions around for idiots like you.

>>58042064

By the time you have spent trying to rectify your retardation on here, you could have learned about the differences between Python 2 and 3, or just acquried common sense in general.

>>58042091
They don't, users need to do it manually. Read the wiki.

>>58042102

I have literally never had to manually intervene to use anything Python related from the repositories.
Kill yourself if you had, because you obviously don't know how a distribution works.

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You don't make mistakes do you anon? Your OS wants nothing more than to help you, why would you hurt her?

>>58042187
I actually never make a mistake when writing scripts/typing in CLI. I'm super paranoid when it comes to my computer and check everything six gorrilion times before sending the command.
Only when there's data manipulation involved though.
std{in,out,err,} not so much.

>>58042187
>her
sorry, i use OSX

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>>58042187
Just reinstall

>>58042113

>Today, I got an email from an user of one of my Python scripts asking why the script t does not work on Arch Linux anymore. As it turns out, the Arch Linux team decided to switch /usr/bin/python to Python 3.0 and use python2 for Python 2.X versions. By doing this, they decided to make their distribution incompatible to almost any Python script in the world.
https://juliank.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/arch-linux-python-3-and-users/ :D

>In Arch Linux, /usr/bin/python points to Python 3.x and not Python 2.x. So using http-serve results in the following error: /usr/bin/python: No module named SimpleHTTPServer
https://github.com/sorin-ionescu/prezto/issues/1080

>My Python 2 scripts begin with a shebang, "#!/usr/bin/env python" which launches the Python 2 executable, wherever it is installed, on OS X or Linux. Unless you are running Arch Linux, in which case you need to go in and manually change the script to point to "python2" instead of "python". Except "python2" is essentially unique to Arch, it doesn't exist on Debian or Fedora or OS X or whatever. So no portable script is EVER going to point to "python2".
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4473235

>bleachbit is now completely broken on arch
https://www.bleachbit.org/forum/compatibility-python3

>Arch Linux: python and python2 are in conflict
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8963/arch-linux-python-and-python2-are-in-conflict

:D

what would be the best alternative to speccy for xubuntu 16.04

What would be a good choice of portable distro to run a local server?
Puppy linux/Slax with Apache,MySQL,php?

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Tablet using ubuntu y/n

Smartphone Ubuntu Y/N?

>>58042375

None of those are issues with any official packages, you idiot. Learn to read.

My Python 3 script doesn't work on Debian without modifying it. According to your beyond retarded brain, Debian is broken.

>>58042642
No to both, you slut.

I normally use 'amixer -q sset Master 2%-' bound to a key to change volume but I want to use -D or -c to specify which device or card is being changed, I can't figure out what the command would be though.

I tried 'amixer -D hw:0 -q sset Master 2%-' but that doesn't work. I also tried 'amixer -D [92HD81B1X5 Analog] -q sset Master 50%-' but that dodn't work (tries in quotes and without the [ ]).

How can I do this?

aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: 92HD81B1X5 Analog [92HD81B1X5 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Loopback [Loopback], device 0: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 1: Loopback [Loopback], device 1: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
  Subdevices: 8/8
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
  Subdevice #3: subdevice #3
  Subdevice #4: subdevice #4
  Subdevice #5: subdevice #5
  Subdevice #6: subdevice #6
  Subdevice #7: subdevice #7
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

>>58042711
+ Programs follow standards and expect these.
+ Most distros follow the standard, Arch doesn't.
= Arch is broken.

>>58042773
why is arch such a special snowflake?

>>58042772
amixer -D pulse set Master 2%-

>>58042794
It's not pulse I want to change, I want to change the device itself.

>>58042781
muh bleeding edge

>>58042781
you're expecting good work from a bunch of weeaboos?

>>58042804
it's not bleeding edge, it's simply incompetence

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what is the best linux for gaming?

>>58043153
Go back to windows. Linux is a tool, not a toy. Linux is made for coding only.

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>>58043153
4.9

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>>58043153

>>58043153
Windows 7 VM

>>58043308
he asked for linux, learn2read

>>58043153
The latest.

>>58043153
4.9 ck
i recommend running with Gentoo

>>58043153
just install arch

>>58043353
>using a sjw distro
Why.

>>58043322
>there are people ITT who didn't compile Microsoft Windows with the Linux kernel instead of NT

>>58043340
What's "ck"? Please no bully.

>>58043340
>gentoo
A waste of time.

>>58042599
Funtoo

>>58043391
>>>/ck/
A cooking board on 4chan.

>>58043421
In what way? It's literally the best distro.

>>58043353
>broken python
dropped

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>tfw can't get Doom to work

>>58043433
>an update is available
>everyone is like: YEAH new free stuff
>gentoo users: GOD DAMN, compiling all that shit again???

>>58043441
>scripting in python
>using python scripts

>>58043456
not all gentoo users have processors from the last century though so your meme response is irrelevant.

>>58043454
zdoom -iwad doom.wad
>>58043457
you don't use youtub-dl?

>>58043503
no, i don't feel the need to download any videos from there. i would rewrite it myself if i used it though since it's written in a garbage scripting language

->
-> >>58043519
->

>>58043527
>he thinks youtube-dl is for downloading youtube videos
top kek

>>58043547
i don't use it though so how would i know?

>>58043322
Yeah you can run a win7 VM on linux. And it's the best option for gaming on linux.

>>58043547
Not him, but if you want to be technical about it, it is.
It's just mostly used for piping the stream into mpv.
And if it wasn't, why is it called 'youtube-dl'?
I know that it can be also used for various other sites and not only YT.

>>58043631
It started a simple youtube downloader, but now it supports thousands of services and is used by many programs to get the stream link.