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first for my wife
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>>58043589
thanks for posting anime
what distro are you using btw?
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>>58043589
Your wife looks like she'd satisfy old men for free!
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>>58043589
my waifu
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What are some cool confings and alias for .bashrc?
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is it a good idea to run web browsers within firejail?
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>>58043699
>is it a good idea to run web browsers
no, use the command line like real arch pros
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>>58043710
command line web browsers
beat that arch
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>>58043728
no, using a fake gui is n00b-tier. use arch like me and do everything from the command line
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why does /fglt/ hate arch so much? Im using antergos as my first linux and It seems pretty good. The AUR has everything, and 'not audited' and stuff sounds more like memes just made to bash arch than real reasons, Ive never had any kinda issue with it.
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>>58043743
fglt as 4chan hates everything. Anyway who the fuck cares what 4chin thinks in the first place? This site is a big meme.
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>>58043519
I tried ubuntu for the first time, all it did was shut off my computer when i tried to boot it. Before i stick with windows for another 10 years before trying an alternative, can someone tell me what I did wrong?
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>>58043743
arch has crappy, lazy devs who are utterly and completely useless, see: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
there's no reason to use arch. all it does is make a situation more complex for no benefit. it isn't minimalistic, it isn't faster, and it's not worth anyone's time to use it. the only reason people do is because of 'look at me im so l33t not using gui installer fucking idiot noobuntu users'
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>>58043743
i think everyone here loves the ProDistro that is arch. your just a fucking n00b though, install Arch the Arch way and get a real lightweight and minimalist distro. yes, the unauditied memes are just that, memes.
>>58043771
how does it make anything complex lmao? is installing something without a gui really that hard? any retard with reading skills can do that.
>the only reason people do is because of 'look at me im so l33t not using gui installer fucking idiot noobuntu users'
nope, there are other distros which lack an installer so this can't be the reason.
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>>58043760
If anyone wants more 'deets I used pendrivelinux with the latest version of xubuntu installed on a usb stick. the unzipper got to like 99% but said the files were broken? even though I downloaded the iso from the official page
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>>58043771
>thinking that packages are installed to your RAM
kek
also, why would arch and sjwbian take up different amounts of ram if everything else is the same? seems like a fake meme to me.
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>>58043809
>Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module
available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat
related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional
features enabled across all the packages, etc.

did you even read the link i sent?
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Hey guys I'm trying to update the bios in a T61 I picked up to the Middleton bios, but am having trouble flashing directly from a bootable flashdrive. Is there a way for me to do this through Fedora 25 or Crunchbang. Every instruction online is for Windows xp. If nothing I'll try on xp if need be.
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>>58043834
>>58043833
>>58043793

please respond to >>58043760
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>>58043824
but i just did with this >>58043793
>>58043833
I see, so packages get installed to your ram?
>available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat
related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional
features enabled across all the packages, etc.
are you implying sjwbian doesn't do all of that?
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>>58043853
why is debian involved in this? we're discussing why arch is trash, if you want to discuss debian you should have started the discussion on debian. keep it related to the topic.
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>>58043834
Fuck Off. Use Arch (not memejaro, antergos or any other noob version of it) or gtfo.
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>>58043743
the only reason to install arch (just like gentoo) is to show everyone on the internet that you did
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>>58043771
But this is just more arch-hate memes, with no real basis. Im using arch right now, given that antergos is pretty much the same, and its easy. Nothing is complicated or hard, and I used a GUI install.
Do you just hate people who installed their OS in a different way from you for some reason?
>>58043793
>i think everyone here loves the ProDistro that is arch. your just a fucking n00b though, install Arch the Arch way and get a real lightweight and minimalist distro.
More of it. Ironically pretending to be retarded to bash it. Why do you fixate on your hatred of this one particular linux distribution so much, /fglt/? Its fine.
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>>58043873
did you even read the meme image you posted? it clearly mentions sjwbian in it you fucktard. Your "argument" is valid only if arch installs packages to RAM which it doesn't.
>>58043899
How can you know this without having direct access to thoughts of all arch users?
>>58043907
I love it and I use it every single day. Anything else is just NoobShit.
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>>58043809
>calling it "sjwbian"
>literally running sjwarch
https://archwomen.org/blog/post/responding-to-harassment.html
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>>58043907
there's a reason all of the arch hate memes exist. give me 1 reason to use arch over fedora or debian/*buntu
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>>58043917
why isn't this directly on their site? i don't give a fuck if sjws use something. call me when this gets moved to archlinux.org
the sjw shit on sjwbian comes from the devs themselves.
>>58043931
1. it isn't n00bshit
2. it's more minimalist
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>>58043917
DELET THIS
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>>58043743
Have you had any issues with drivers?
I want to start with Antergos too but I have a fairly new nVidia graphics card (GTX 950M)
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>>58043931
>there's a reason all of the arch hate memes exist
name me 1 (One) of them which is even slightly relevant. Stupid memes like "it takes up 400mb more ram xDD" without any real evidence to show this aren't a reason.
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>>58043899
>implying installing them is actually hard
fuck off, noob.
>>58043952
>Antergos
Fuck off noobshit. Use Arch or get the fuck out.
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>>58043954
if you haven't seen the arch memes you haven't been on /g/ long enough. every single one of them has relevency, and for good reasons.
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Arch is literally a bloated piece of shit. Why even use it?
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>>58043911
Everyone can tell you're just pretending to be a dumb skiddie who thinks they're LEET to imply anyone who uses arch must be like that. It just makes you look really petty.
>>58043899
But thats not true. It sounds like you just tried to install arch the normal way and didnt like doing it, and now you have some irrational anger towards some linux distro because you didnt like the installation.
>>58043931
I cant for the life of me tell what the reason is. Everyone just seems so angry and spiteful towards this linux distro and anyone who uses it and its beyond explanation. All the reasons just seem weird and contrived non-reasons, and even if some of them would be reasons you wouldnt use it personally they dont justify this weird, obsessive hatred.
Like, all this regurgitating copypasta about how terrible arch is with this haughty condescending tone to it, or ironically pretending to be really really stupid or obnoxious people(by your judgment at least) to imply 'anyone who uses arch is like this' half the threads. Thish isn't healthy.
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>>58043972
Post one of them. It should easy if there's a lot of them, right? kek
>every single one of them has relevency
nope, this image doesn't >>58043771
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>>58043743
arch is a meme and here is why:

it sells itself as "simple" and "lightweight", while it's actually the opposite as confirmed here >>58043771

that's actually not a bad thing, arch is nice, but people install it for the wrong reasons

why do we hate them?

kids who can't decide for themselves install arch linux or babby forks like antergos, a shell they don't even understand like zsh, and all the other crap they read on others screenfetches, then they come to /fglt/ and ask stupid questions like
>zsh: command not found: screenfetch
>please help
and at the same time they're telling everyone how superior their disto and software decision are
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>>58044008
> confirmed here
show me the two systems side by side. post the debian one which uses 400mb less ram here or your post is bullshit.
>a shell they don't even understand like zsh,
>implying there is anything to understand about it
>implying you understand your shitty black shell
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>>58044004
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>>58044036
Why do you keep trying to put Debian into a rant about Arch? Did Debian hurt your feelings in any ways?

>>implying you understand your shitty black shell

Go back to you home board, ugly /pol/ack.
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>>58044001
Anyone who uses arch isn't leet by default, but anyone not using it is not leet. That much I can say with certainty. Now fuck off with your little antergos installation.
>>58044044
Good meme, how is this relevant to the real world though?
>if x worked
It works though, why do you think it doesn't?
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>>58044052
Read the image here >>58043771
It clearly mentions debian.
>Go back to you home board, ugly /pol/ack.
I'm not a /pol/ack though, you retarded noob.
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>>58044053
saved
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>>58044053
which xorg.conf are they talking about? mine works fine
>>58044078
just remember that using false memes isn't an argument.
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>>58044058
>>58044053
>>58044044
and here we go again. now the threads just gonna descend into a circlejerk of memes, pasta, and blind hate about how arch users should be exterminated or something. This is not normal. if its about >>58044008 , then thats not a normal reaction to newbies being obnoxious sometimes.
>This isn't healthy.
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>>58044053
How can a .conf be broken? It's not even an executable, what are these noobs talking about? Are noobuntu users really this illiterate?
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What am I doing wrong here?
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Anyone got links to make understanding iptables/netfilter firewall in GNU/Linux easy?
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>>58044094
Fuck off, noob. You aren't welcome here if you can't even install arch.
>>58044099
Post something real next time with real screenshots. Examples pulled out of your ass don't count.
>weeks to manually compile openbox which is a tiny program
>compile
>arch
LMFAO
>>58044100
>What am I doing wrong here?
not using arch and using shitty noobuntu. At least try out manjaro but then upgrade to Arch.
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>>58044094
That's too late anon. This thread already became a shit one.
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>>58044073
Welp, if you want to compare Debian to Arch:

Debian does package splitting, which means, you get just what you need instead of the full package like on Arch.

Result: 300 packages on Arch are compareable with 6-700 on debian based systemds.

Debian comes with a deblobbed kernel. You just add the modules you need. Arch comes with blobs out of the box to make it "simple", which is actually pretty much against "the arch way" and KISS.
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>>58044109
>iptables/netfilter
>GNU/
They aren't GNU specific applications and aren't part of the coreutils though. You can drop the GNU/ here.
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Who is more obnoxious, archqueers or people who bitch about archqueers?
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>>58044134
the only reason we have the problem is because of the archqueers.
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>>58044100
Id honestly reccomend you ask on the ubuntu forums or somewhere, anywhere but here.
Its obnoxious to have to make an account, but this place is useless. Its just for circlejerking about how much they hate free software, some particular linux distro(arch? void? debian? it changes day by day), and linux in general.
I dont know the answer, it worked fine when I did that, but thihs place probably wont be of any help to you.
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>>58044117
Is Arch user friendly? I don't want to have to type codes into my computer like a bitch, i just want a free Windows alternative.
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>>58044129
I prefer calling it GNU/Linux because I like free software.
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>>58044146
ok thanks
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>>58044128
>Result: 300 packages on Arch are compareable with 6-700 on debian based systemds.
I would like some stats on this one, how did you calculate this?
>thinking that binary blobs = kernel modules
Why the fuck are debiankids this stupid?
> Arch comes with blobs out of the box to make it "simple", which is actually pretty much against "the arch way" and KISS.
No, it has a generic kernel with all modules out of the box which is actually pretty simple. You can customize it later though, which all Arch users do unlike you debtards who think no binary blobs = less bloated kernel with less modules enabled. I guarantee you that your kernel is bloated as fuck and has more modules than you need.
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>>58044129
I'm so used to saying GNU/Linux that It's become a habit to say that when just linux is what you should say.
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>>58044129
>he things GNU just covers the coreutils
found the tech illiterate
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>>58044180
He's still right, there is no GNU software that covers iptables or netfitler. It's all built into the linux kernel.
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>>58044177
>I would like some stats on this one, how did you calculate this?
If you want the program, you get "program".
If you want to compile it yourself, you get "program-dev".
This example already doubles the package count.
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>>58044187
The system isn't the kernel only. Fuck off.
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>>58044166
>I prefer
But I don't care about your feelings. The applications you listed aren't specific to GNU or the linux kernel. There's no need to mention your OS there.
>>58044178
So? The applications aren't written by GNU or exclusive to Linux, GNU/Linux, busybox/Linux or anything/Linux.
>>58044180
What does it "cover" then? Things like grub aren't part of the coreutils so using them isn't enough to start calling your system GNU/Linux. By that logic my system should be called Firefox/Linux
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>>58044157
If you're not comfortable with the terminal, you'll have a hard time with arch linux. Thankfully, antergos is just arch linux with a GUI installer. Antergos uses the same repos as arch linux and the same package manager. Archfags at the arch linux forums get easily butthurt about antergos so just ask here rather than there.
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wew lad i'm glad the BSD family doesn't have this problem
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>>58044203
>By that logic my system should be called Firefox/Linux
By your logic your systems hould be called Firefox/Firefox
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>>58044212
except the complete OS is cucked by it's license
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>>58044202
How does it matter? Do you list your whole system when talking about file system support too?
>>58044212
Which BSD do you use?
>>58044225
How? Explain it with direct citations of the license.
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>>58044232
I run FreeBSD on one of my laptops.
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>>58044232
>How? Explain it with direct citations of the license.
Calling BSD a cuckold license is a meme, don't take it too seriously.
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>>58044244
I know, that's why I told him to do something impossible.
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If I start a process (runnable jar for example) via CLI on my vps (debian) as a daemon, how can I control it after for example logging out? Only possible way to search for the process and kill it in case I want it to shut down?
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>>58044203
You're correct. Technically the system is always a combination of random programs, kernels, libs, etc. So when you need to choose a name for it, why not promoting the system that started it all and promote free software instead of calling it "Linux", which tries to hide that important part just for convenience?
By the way, you're correct that stuff like embedded systems with busybox and linux or android aren't GNU/Linux systems, but how is this relevant here?
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>>58044250
>>58044244
>>58044212
The BSD license allows taking BSD code and making it proprietary. You're literally watching others fucking your code.
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>>58044268
I don't care about your feelings, habits or your "promotion" of anything. Just don't add unnecessary retarded shit when discussing a specific issue. Use GNU/kernel whenever discussing a GNU coreutils or GNU issue, use Linux when discussing a kernel issue. I couldn't care less about your particular choice of software which is irrelevant to the discussion.
>embedded systems with busybox
busybox isn't just for embedded systems. It can be used literally on any distro and alpine (a desktop distro) already uses it. Android is just a fork of Linux so calling it linux is retarded.
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>>58044293
>direct citations of the license.
Did you somehow miss this part?
>You're literally watching others fucking your code.
I'm not though, I'm not a programmer. If anything I'm cucking someone else by using BSD.
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>>58044293
forcing freedom isn't freedom
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Is this something like a /fglt/-Medley thread?
>arch vs debian
>gnu vs linux
>gpl vs bsd
>zsh bs bash
If so, I want to contribute:

I just installed Arch, how to remove systemd? I heard it is bad.
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>>58044293
see >>58044312
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>>58044312
>t. guy you doesn't understand why slavery is illegal

Forcing freedom is freedom, which means ensuring that nobody can enslave you. "Doing whatever you want" is anarchy, which always leads to slavery.
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>>58044333
How is proprietary software slavery? Are you retarded? If a install a proprietary application in a VM have I somehow become a slave?
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>>58044333
>Forcing freedom is freedom
no, forcing your choice of software isn't freedom. if you force me to not use any proprietary software I'm not free.
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>>58044355
Are you free to use the program as you with, to change the source code, share the results of your changes, or are you only allowed to run it as the developer (your master) wants you to?
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>>58044374
wish*

>>58044370
Nobody is forcing your choice of software. The GPL just ensures that free code will stay free.
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>>58044316
kek
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>>58044374
>Are you free to use the program as you with, to change the source code, share the results of your changes
no, what if i don't care about doing any of that? Most people don't.
>allowed to run it as the developer (your master) wants you to?
This, I am free to not use it though which can't be called slavery by any stretch of the imagination.
>>58044391
That guy implied he is okay with forcing everyone to use free software when he said "forcing "freedom" is freedom".
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>>58044211
Ok thanks, downloading antergos now. It says I need a constant internet connection to use it? Is there a way to turn that off?
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>>58044410
>That guy implied he is okay with forcing everyone to use free software
I didn't, but it's a good idea.
Proprietary software should be illegal.
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>>58044435
How can you be free if you aren't allowed to run a program on your computer? Whatever you are offering here can't be called freedom so stop using that term.
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>>58044435
>acting like you were me
foul play :^)
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>>58044459
>implying that isn't an actual position the vast majority of gnutards hold
kek
any gnutard can feel free to disprove this.
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>>58044450
>How can you be free if you aren't allowed to run a program on your computer?
I said proprietary software should be illegal, not running whatever you want should be illegal.
Stop the strawman already.
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>>58044485
So if I make my own proprietary license and distribute software created under it to my friend and he isn't free to run it this is somehow called freedom?
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>>58044502
No, I said proprietary software should be illegal, not running whatever you want should be illegal.

That said, what's the point in creating proprietary software?
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>>58044520
$$$
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>>58044528
There are better jobs than selling heroin or proprietary software. If you want to make money, do it like Red Hat.
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>>58044520
Why do you think this is somehow possible? Do you have authority over every single court in the world?
Even that wouldn't be enough from stopping me in particular from distributing proprietary software. I'll start doing that if it ever becomes illegal. I'll make my own state with my own courts if need be.
>That said, what's the point in creating proprietary software?
Ask the people who create it.
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>defending proprietary software
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>>58044587
>he thinks defending someone's ability to make and use proprietary software is the same as defending proprietary software
Are you really this stupid?
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>>58044536
>Equating heroin to proprietary software
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>>58044599
If malware is illagal, why shouldn't proprietary software?
>>58044602
Literally the same thing.
heroin: fucking with other health in order to make money
proprietary software: fucking with others freedom in order to make money
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>>58044626
>If malware is illagal, why shouldn't proprietary software?
because you haven't shown any good reason for it being illegal
>Literally the same thing.
>equating health to freedom
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>>58044626
I wouldn't compare it to drugs, if you use medics correctly they're good for you, while proprietary software is always bad for you.
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>>58044687
>while proprietary software is always bad for you.
Why? Explain
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Why should i spend years and millions of lines of code on a project i made solo, and then turn it around and give it to everyone to fork and then take credit for? The "Freedoms" are only beneficial to the user, not the creator.You guys just want some free source code cause you're to lazy to actually code from scratch.
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>>58044687
Games are fun to play and most of them are proprietary.
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>>58044704
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>mfw they dont realize they are using proprietary imageboard software
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>>58044704
Most gnutards don't know the basics of programming so it isn't really a surprise.
>>58044726
>they deserve to be punished
Literally never taking anything this "man" has to say seriously ever again. Thanks for posting this image.
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>>58044741
Friendly Linux Thread when?
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>>58044772
Right now in this very thread. Don't take the mental gymnastics and word games of gnutards too seriously.
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>>58044772
Create one, kernel discussion is fun.
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>>58044787
I'm on Arch Linux, how can I de-GNU my system? And hints?
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>>58044726
stallman just wants free source code.
What has he personally produced in the past 20 years?
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whats the best lightweight distro for an old laptop with 1 GB RAM, needs to be user friendly for someone who never used linux/gnu before
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>>58044839
lubuntu
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>>58044832
He made free software a thing. Aren't people allowed to get old after changing the world?
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Hello, yesterday I posted here asking how to build the newer Firefox with addon signature checks disabled.
I have successfully built Firefox 50.1.0 with xpinstall.signatures.required available in about:config by adding
MOZ_ADDON_SIGNING=
MOZ_REQUIRE_SIGNING=

to the mozconfig file.
Tested by installing a self-built git HEAD version of pentadactyl.
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>>58044839
>needs to be user friendly for someone who never used linux/gnu before
Don't install Linux then. Windows XP with posready 2009 patches and a proper AV software should do just fine.
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>>58044832
Freedom.
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>>58044870
Friendly Windows Thread when?
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How do I install and use GRUB
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>>58044876
You mean the 4 passive aggressive "oughts" that he belives is " freedom"? Those "oughts" arent free for the developer, just the user.If it isnt free for one set of people,then it isnt truly free
>>
>>58044790
It won't be just kernel discussion though. Busybox users are welcome to discuss programs running on their linux kernel. GNUfags are welcome too if they don't feel the need to mention their inferior choice of software.
>>58044828
>arch
Don't know then since it's running systemd.
>>58044858
So? Why hasn't he programmed anything?
>>58044876
How can you create a concept? Is he the first to coin the term "freedom"? Don't think so.
>>
Just don't fucking reply to the bait jesus fucking christ

when will you newfaggots learn that he comes here every 2 days and spews exactly the same fucking ruse

and you all like the drooling retards you are fly like the flies fly to cow dung.
>>
>>58044894
install syslinux and thank me later
>>
>>58044870
the person will only use it to watch youtube and browse the web
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>>58044894
Grub should be installed when you install an is to a fresh drive. check out the arch wiki (it's a good resource, even if you don't use arch) for details on it.
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>>58044891
It happens every few days anon.

Please leave /g/
>>
>>58044905
I think this retard posts shit like >>58044687 and >>58044626 every single day, not just every two days.
>>
>>58044839
puppy
>>
>ITT
/g/ - the triggering
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>>58043684
alias cdo='CD $OLDPWD'
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>>58044960
Will this work in zsh? I'm on arch if it matters.
>>
>>58044960
alias -- -='cd -'
alias .. ='cd ..'
alias ... ='cd ../..'
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>>58043519
Is Discord botnet?
>>
>>58044993
learn what "botnet" means before posting retarded shit like this.
It's shit though so don't bother using it.
>>
>>58044953
/g/ has gone to shit long time ago.

I blame the largely increased post cooldown.
Now massive spillover from /v/eddit has the time to come here and contaminate this board in the middle of arguing which shitty kike studio jews them less.

And to think that /flt/fglt/ was a safe haven.

But now we got a tremendous influx of newcunts who are so desperate to fit in the "Linux world" they take and preach whatever they hear from their linux gurus as fucking gospels just to score good goy points.

Just chill out.
>>
>>58044960
>OLDPWD
just use cd - like any nonsubhuman would
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>>58044993
Yes.
>>58045013
>>>/r/eddit
>>
>>58045028
>doesn't know what botnet is
>>>/r/eddit
>>
>mfw they dont realize they are using proprietary imageboard software
>>
>>58045020
How was it before all of this shit and is /tech/ any better?
>>
>>58044993
Yeah.
It's a centralized service unlike teamspeak, mumble and other similar software and it's client is not released under gpl-compatible license (unlike mumble)

Think about it anon
>it's a centralized service meaning the owner of discord has to maintain fuckload of servers to maintain all those manchild losers
>it doesn't feature ads
>using is free of charge.
How do you think they profit from it? Is there a "Donate" button on their page?
>>
>>58045059
How exactly does this make it "botnet"?
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>>58045049
leave
now
>>
>>58045049
How's 4chan my computer again?
>>
Why don't we call this the gnu/shitpost thread?
>>
>>58045067
>>it's a centralized service meaning the owner of discord has to maintain fuckload of servers to maintain all those manchild losers
>it doesn't feature ads
>using it is free of charge
How do you think they profit from it?
>>
>>58045059
Just what I thought really. What would be a good video chat program to use? My friends are pushing fot Discord since the next update will feature video conference
>>
>>58045073
You just used proprietary google captcha to post this with a browser located on your computer
>>
>>58045073
When it interacts with your browser/system.
But you hate proprietary software so much, you spot FREEDUMBZ yet you're using prop rotary software.

Hypocrite
:^)
>>
>>58045096
based
>>
>>58045096
>defending proprietary software
>>
>>58045093
I didn't.

>>58045096
Not my computer
>>
>>58045096
>>58045112
samefag
>>
>>58045093
>he paid for a 4chan pass,he is donating and supporting a close source propritary system
>>
>>58045134
duh
>>
>>58045127
How did you post this then?
>>58045134
try again.
>>
>>58045127
>Not my computer
But it breaks your morals,even if you arent using a computer you own. Or are you that weak willed?
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Linux is cuckold communist trash. BSD is not cucked and is pro white and not controlled by kikes.
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>>58045184
BSD doesn't have enough drivers.
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>>58045217
Not an issue for me, it has everything I need. What is something you need and BSD doesn't have?
>>
>>58045217
linux is riddled with proprietary blobs
so much about "freedom"
>>
>>58045223
Proper radeon support and 5G support for my wireless adapter (only supports 2.4G).

Do you know if *BSD supports early microcode updates?
>>
>>58045242
based
>>
post your music player
>>
>>58045288
No.
>>
Hey. could use some help if you don't mind. I have a USB wireless LAN adaper, which needs the rtl8188ee driver, but debian doesn't include it and the only dl i see on the internet is on the shady .tw site of realtek with no verifiable download... wat do?
>>
>>58045302
Install a distro that isn't debian.
>>
>>58045317
i want to use debian
>>
>>58045302
Buy non-cucked hardware.
>>
>>58045302
Download from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek and install with dpkg -i
>>
>>58045325
thank you
>>
>>58045302
>sjwbian
just use arch
>>
>>58045264
I would say this is proper radeon support. - https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#AMD_.2F_Radeon_Graphics
What's your wireless adapter? There might already be something for it on freebsd.
>Do you know if *BSD supports early microcode updates?
I don't know if this is what you're looking for but check this out - https://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/compatibility-processors.html
>>
>>58045341
>swjarch https://archwomen.org/
Just use Fedora.
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>>58045317
>>58045323
>>58045341
Woah buddy if you have nothing to say just don't say anything.

It might surprise you but nobody actually cares about your shitty opinion on the topic not to mention you weren't actually asked for one right now.

He asked for help, if youre incapable or unwilling (which is understandable) to provide forementioned help just click the little right-facing arrow next to the post number and click "Hide"

Here I even got you a screenshot of it so you aren't lost.
The image file was named "arrow.png" for your convenience.
>>
>>58045361
Is this an an official arch project?
>Just use Fedora.
lmao.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Adviser
>>
>>58045361
>sjwora
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Women
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Adviser
install ubuntu
>>
>>58045388
>install sjwbuntu
https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/diversity
http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/
>>
>>58045381
Okay, if he already installed debian, he could enable the nonfree repo and install linux-firmware-nonfree. But if he used another distro entirely his adapter would already work.
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whats the least resource consuming distro out there? of course it must have most features of a normal operative system.
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>>58045407
>needing to enable a repo to install nonfree firmware
kek
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>>58045387
nope
>>
>>58045417
arch
>>
>>58045417
gentoo
>>
Got problem with Arch i3wm
After some time i cant change keyboard layout, i use cyrillic and latinic layout.
It get stuck on cyrilic and i cant switch it, anyone know what is problem?


btw, to make it work again i run command:
setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,rs
>>
>>58045424
>>58045427
stop trolling
this is a friendly thread
>>
>>58045417
gentoo. the initial install/config will take a lot though if you have shit hardware. But it's worth it.
>>
>>58045427
>least resource
>gentoo takes minimum 25gb to install
>>
>>58045429
Forgot to add, I'm on Arch.
>>
So ubuntu, Debian, Arch linux, and fedora have been infected with SJWs? Is gentoo the only pure one left?
>>
what DE should i use, kde or xfce?
>>
>>58045351
I have an r7 260x which it says is unsupported.
>>
>>58045470
Did sjw infiltration altered software in any way?
>>
>>58045471
Forgot to add, I'm on Arch.
>>
>>58045471
Your choice, anon. http://women.kde.org/
>>
>>58045429
Just bindsym whatever key you use to switch between keyboards.

One bindsym using latin keycode to switch to russian keyboard.
One bindsym using cyryllic keycode to switch to us keyboard
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>>58045464
nice one faggot
>>
>>58045464
People always mention their distro when they want help.
>>
>>58045443
why do you think this is trolling? gentoo is pretty easy on your resources.
>>58045460
really? why do I have it on my raspberry pi which is just using a 4gb sd card then?
>>58045470
Yeah, someone tried to start a gentoo women on the forums a long time ago but it didn't happen. The only thing about "diversity" related to gentoo on the internet is this, kek http://www.gentoogroup.com/about-us/equality-diversity/
>>
>>58045484
It alters what software is going to be allowed in the repos. Have a controversial opinion or political position? Don't be surprised if it gets removed later.
>>
>>58045486
fuck you no im not
>>
>>58045506
wtf... do you have any example ready?
>>
>>58045484
sjwbian changes "slave" and "master" which is a direct alteration of software. also this >>58045506
>>
>>58045524
There was this one game that got removed from the Debian repos because they didn't like it and debian women were demanding to remove tux racer because they claimed it sexualized women.
>>
>>58045491
i have bind alt+shift for that, but it stops working after X minutes
>>
>>58045526
so does fedora, mpv, firefox, and many others
sjw is a linux problem, not a debian problem
>>
>>58045526
which software?
>>
>>58045549
*a free software problem
Windows doesn't have this problem.
>>
>>58045577
windows doesnt really have a community though does it
in comparison to linux ones anyway
>>
>>58045484
sjw infiltration especially when officially backed by the distro is already a problem.
>>58045549
>sjw is a linux problem
Nope, it's a western culture problem. I wish it was just relegated to linux or tech but sadly that isn't the case
>>
>>58045577
Microsoft has a full diversity quota and bill has dedicated the past few years to stuff related to africa.
>>
WHICH FUCKING SOFTWARE CHANGED "SLAVE" AND "MASTER"?
>>
>>58045597
What's wrong with helping africa?
>>
>>58045588
linux doesn't either. your idea of "community" is retarded. I didn't join anything when I started using linux or my distro in particular.
>>
>>58045616
it's absolutely destructive in results both for the economy of africa as well as societies in africa
>>
BSD doesn't have any of this shit. I think I'm going to make the switch.
>>
>>58045616
Most of the time, money that gets sent to africa is taken by the corrupt government or some warlord claims it. There will be no helping africa until the corruption and civil wars come to an end.
>>
>>58045671
is this why the millions of dollars we donate each year to 'charity' clearly has no effect
>>
>>58045667
"this shit" includes drivers as well I hope you're aware of that.

Good luck anyways.
Dragonflybsd is p good
>>
>>58045692
what about freebsd?
>>
>>58045602
Worse:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/1798/files
>>
>>58045704
no drivers as well
>>
>>58045722
how can you say that without knowing anything about my pc?
>>
where can I find the screen brightness options on cinnamon?
>>
>>58042831

How do I make Konqueror that I just installed my default file picker?
So that thumbnails would appear in file picker
>>
>>58045739
why dont you go and find out for yourself then anon
>>
>>58045739
By "Good luck" I assumed you'd understand that I sincerely hope you succeed in installing *BSD system on your machine.

I'm saying from my experience.
No need to get so insecure bub.
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>>58045721
???
>>
>>58045757
Forgot to add, I'm on Arch.
>>
>>58045761
but i wasn't asking that. you said dragonflybsd was pretty good so i asked about freebsd too.
>>58045768
already did that once when i was playing around with different linux distros, installed bsd for fun too. what's so hard about it?
>No need to get so insecure bub.
i'm not though...
>>
>>58045760
File picker used by an application is dependant on the graphical toolkit it was created with.

Firefox uses GTK toolkit and depending on the version will use GTK2 (older versions and ESR versions of Firefox) or GTK3 (everything else) file picker.
>>
>>58045798
>what's so hard about it?
Having the right hardware that actually has drivers written for it?

Holy fuck how dense are you?
>>
>>58045805
>trying to sound so fucking smart by using "graphical toolkit" when talking to an obvious noob
>not knowing that firefox can easily use the kde filepicker
kek
>>58045760
What distro are you on?
>>
>>58045787
stop pretending you are me. I'm on ubuntu
>>
>>58045816
how is that hard? i did that without any additional effort.
>Holy fuck how dense are you?
why so rude? :(
>>
>>58045784
>>58045602
There: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/9024cb168586dcc7808893e944edb217b34aa56f
>>
>>58045805
So you're basically saying I can't get thumbnails on firefox at all?

>>58045819
Ubuntu 14.04 with uniti
>>
>>58045757
>>58045822
btw I've just found it
>>
This thread isn't friendly.
>>
>>58045805
I can't wait till ESR 52. FF 46 was the version that dropped GTK2 and uses GTK+ 3 instead and ESR 45 is the current ESR also the final version to use GTK2.
>>
>>58045883
s/thread/board/gi
>>
>>58045887
and i honestly hope debian will keep packaging the esr version compiled for gtk2.

i would hate to recompile it everytime there's an update
>>
>>58045902
But the thread title explicitly says "Friendly".
>>
>>58045867
He's a fucking retard, don't listen to him. You can easily get the kde filepicker if you use the patched version of firefox which is called firefox-kde-opensuse
Wouldn't know how to get it on ubuntu though.
>>
>>58045917
So? How does this prevent me from being unfriendly?
>>
>>58045912
What's the problem with using GTk3 firefox? Debian will probably use the official version (GTK3) since firefox doesn't do official builds with GTK2 anymore.
>>
Why are the gnome devs so obsessed with ignoring filepicker? Even when someone solves it they ignore them and don't merge the changes. Why are they so incompetant?
>>
>>58043878
I used them the standard Arch and Manjaro, but they were completely fine!
>>
>>58044100
You need to check the md5 sum of the ISO to make sure it isnt corrupted, or just try re-downloading it. It looks like your download might have been corrupted
>>
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How do you make xfce not shit? I tried dockbarX with grouped icons no titles, its buggy as fuck. I tried Window Previews, also buggy as fuck and Minimized previews are questionable at best (barely work)

I tried standard window buttons with Icon/groups no text, but you can't pin things to the taskbar.

The only way to make XFCE function is the default panel setup.

Why are Linux DE's so ass?
Please show me your XFCE
>>
>>58045994
one word
gnome
>>
>>58046037
Forgot to add, I'm on Arch.
>>
>>58045994
>>58046041
Thankfully, GTK3 doesn't have this problem.
>>
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>>58045849
kek
>>
>>58043809
can you go into a little detail on why debian is sjwbian, its kind of important to me, thanks
>>
>>58046084
People doing that are stupids. People accepting such commits are even more stupid.
>>
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>>58046084
Hopefull people who are triggered by "sjwbian" will now also uninstall mpv.
>>
>>58046085
Read the debian social contract?
>>
>>58046025
yes the torrent worked
>>
>>58046107
I like debian, I just don't like the community.
>>
>>58046085
It isnt, debian is still a meritocracy.
>>
>>58046120
You mean the community /g/ wants debian to be.
SJW is everywhere in tech. This isn't a Debian thing.
>>
>>58046151
Gentoo and slackware doesn't have this problem.
>>
>>58046074
answer me this anon, If I update my install to ubuntu 16.04 will I get the thumbnail view?

and generally asking what other DE that doesn't have this problem can I change to without losing data?
>>
>>58046161
When you use programs like linux, mpv or firefox on gentoo, you indeed have this problem.
>>
>>58046181
I was talking about the distro itself, not the programs the distro uses.
>>
>>58046193
Gentoo doesn't use linux?
>>
>>58046206
You can use the freeBSD kernel and a few others kernels with gentoo.
>>
>>58046206
gentoo/freebsd uses freebsd kernel
>>
>>58046213
>>58046214
Gentoo doesn't use manpages written by the Debian project? Are you sure your manpages aren't "cucked"?
>>
>>58046163
check your thread mate...
>>
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>>58046084
>its discriminatory or something
>>
>>58046107
>uninstall mpv
why? it isn't hard at all for me to get the source and change it back
>>
>>58046084
>It's discriminatory or something
This has to be the work of a very clever troll.
>>
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>>58046266
I thought it archived,
well I just checked

>tfw your thread 404s
>>
>>58046373
>>>/a/
>>
>>58046373
Just install firefox-kde-opensuse. It's a patched version of firefox which uses the kde file picker
>>58046421
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/b/
>>
>>58046373
or just use kde (a file picker pretending to be a DE), it already does something to make everything use the kde file picker. I have it on both chromium and firefox. It's a lot better than unity
>>
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Which is the best distro with KDE? I want to give KDE a shot. Never really used it.
Is it even any good?

Using ubuntu right now. Is Kubuntu ok then?
>>
>>58046490
>sjw kuckde
no
>>
>>58046503
Any distro.
>Using ubuntu right now. Is Kubuntu ok then?
Yes. If by ubuntu you mean ubuntu with unity. Kubuntu is a lot better.
>>
>>58046490
You can use dolphin without having to have the whole KDE DE installed. Is there any other file managers that don't have the file picker problem?
>>
>>58046503
The one I'm using.
>>
>>58046533
>filepicker, filemanager
lolwut
>>
>>58046536
You could've make a better meme, bruh :-)
>>
>>58046517
I am using the uncucked version of it i forked myself
>>58046533
Dolphin isn't the thing that handles previews in kdialog i think, it's konqueror. You can have the kde file picker if you use the patched version (firefox-kde-opensuse) but I don't think it's in the ubuntu or debian repos.
>>
>>58046560
It's the best response for people who can't decide what's best for them.
>>
what's that VapourSynth thing on mpv? should I get it?
>>
what's that systemd thing on linux? should I get rid of it?
>>
>>58046574
yes

>>58046588
yes
>>
>>58046588
yes, it's a common virus installed on many linuxes
>>
>>58046612
i think you mean lini anon
>>
>>58044991
>>58045024
The problem with `cd -` is that it reprints the directory path. `cd $OLDPWD` gives your your new prompt on the next line, which is good.
>>
>>58046612
Please be friendly. This is a friendly thread.
>>
>>58046820
How can a thread be friendly if I'm obviously unfriendly? Or are you telling me "friendly" in the thread isn't actually binding and is just a retarded name? Hm... So this means I can be unfriendly without any repercussions right, yeah, that's what I'll do then. No need to post your meme replies though.
>>
i3-gaps is so comfy
>>
>>58046942
it looks pretty ugly by default.
Or did you mean your own "rice" of it is comfy? Why didn't you fucking say so then, retard?
>>
I'm on Arch guys. What now.
>>
>>58046981
Start watching anime on it. i'll do that in about 10-15 minutes. I'm on arch too so let's imagine that we're both doing it at the same tim
>>
>>58047011
What is the best anime?
>>
>>58046972
for_window [class="^.*"] border pixel 0
gaps inner *value*
gaps outer *value*

Which is what it says to do on i3 gaps git page.

Wow, so much rice I can't stand it.

Then change the colors on the bar a bit and you're done.
>>
>>58046981
oh, and post a screenshot of your arch with screenfetch and an anime playing in the background.
>>58047039
anything that can run on Arch
>>
>>58047046
I see, so did you commit your changes and they are default now? Nope? So you're retarded and just wasted two posts in this thread? Why did you do this?
>>
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>noobs not using the most hackerish of all hacker man distros
>>
>>58047075
>blackarch
Was it developed by a black?
>>
>>58047075
why is the logo a fat guy holding a triangle murdered by a sword?
>>
>>58047073
I'm sorry that you're lazy and can't type 3 lines. Life must be hard being so disabled that you can't achieve such a small feat.
>>
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>>58047075
>blackarch noobs
>not using archassault
>>
mint babby here, how to defend myself against arch hackers?
>>
>>58047073
dude, chill. go take a nap man, and maybe eat some food, you seem to be in a funk.
>>
>>58047229
Just give up.
>>
>>58047206
does it come with baby killing HIGH CAPACITY xorg error logs?
>>
>>58047114
Where did i imply that, you fucking retard? I said you were fucking wrong by saying that i3gaps is comfy. It looks ugly by default. If you would've said your rice of i3gaps is comfy that would be more correct.
>>
lazy fags, new thread: >>58047407
>>
>>58047343
go away dude, take a breather
>>
>>58047463
Where? I don't have anything to eat btw...
>>
>>58047584
you need to do a fifo out in mpd's conf. consider using cava for visualization, it's nicer than ncmpcpp's internal.
>>
>>58045417
If you want full customizability: Gentoo, Arch
If you want "it just werks": Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Puppy, Damn Small Linux
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