/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>haswell and broadwell cannot function properly without early microcode updates
>can't use a fully free distro

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>you can't pause/resume a thread nicely and safely on linux
it's 2016 for god sake.

I like GNOME quite a bit, and I'm thinking of going with Ubuntu GNOME as my first distro, but I also want to give XFCE a chance. Problem is, it looks and works ugly out of the box on Xubuntu. How do I make it not awful?

>>57936497
you can't.

just embrace it

>>57936497
Install a theme. I hate xfce too, though.

Just because other people recommend it doesn't mean you have to like it. MATE is garbo tier too.

>>57936497
https://www.xfce-look.org/browse/ord/latest/
Also look up Compton composite manager

>>57936527
>MATE is garbo tier too.
So I'm not the only one!
>Just because other people recommend it doesn't mean you have to like it.
I know, but I at least wanted to give it a fair chance. After all, there's the possibility that I'll like it even better than GNOME.

How come I can still use Deluge when I haven't set any rules/exceptions in gufw yet?

>>57936583
are you sure the ports aren't opened by default?

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>>57936713
I'm not sure. I'm a bit new to this stuff. These are my current settings. Are they not right?

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Give it to me straight /g/

Is Manjaro acceptable in 2016?

>>57936823
Just use arch if you want to use arch. Manjewro has no reason to exist.

>>57936823
no distro which is based on another distro will be acceptable in 2017, so enjoy it while it lasts

Debian is honestly a decent distro when you disregard the memes

>>57936378
what's the point of using a fully free distro in a chpset with baked in ME that can not be disabled anyway?

You know very well X86 is hostile towards anything but commercialized proprietary software

>>57936823
no
using any derivative distro is not

learn to use the root distribution or use something else

there is no reason to deal with shitty subcommunities

>>57936929
Your favorite DE is bad though.

>Suddenly opening in a terminal in a directory doesn't work in Xfce, instead it always opens in the home directory
What the fuck?

I'm using Arch Linux, if it matters.

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>>57936996
>>57937089
everytime

I'm a grill btw

>>57937089
cool, I heard it's pretty difficult to install, is it true?

>>57937111
Yeah, but I managed it. I'm actually a bit proud of myself.

>>57937108
posix or gtfo

>>57937108
>>>/a/rchwomen

>>57937129
wish'd I was that smart

>>57937089
Cool, epic, pretending to be me

I wasn't asking for solutions, by the way, just annoyed that an update broke something like that

>>57937108
stfu! your ID says male! >>>/g/bst

these threads are awful

>>57937253
They've really gone downhill over the past few years

>>57937111
>>57937129
It's easy to install, you just read the included text file and look up the wiki on your phone if you get lost.

>>57937253

they're actually good, thanks to the memers who search for every little flaw of distros they aren't using. this helps a lot to learn about differences between distros, developer competence, how things should work and shouldn't, etc

Does wayland work on other distros than fedora?

>>57937347
why would you care

hey guys i heard mint is very good for making android apps is that true

>>57937253
/g/ is basically tech satire.

>>57937382
The only thing /g/ is satire of is itself

>>57937111
Not really. Just don't fuck up when your partitioning/mounting drives.

>>57937359
No better than any other distro.

>>57936317
>Guix
Anybody Guix here?

It's NixOS but using Scheme(guile) instead of that weirdo Haskell-derived DSL NixOS uses so this means you can drive your whole operating system from emacs in a simple functional language(scheme). This has massive advantages especially if you're a dev making docker containers and other things you need to deploy exactly as is across eleventy billion servers.

Essentially instead of piles of programs and daemons that all require specific config files you have one scheme file that configures and deploys your system. You can super-abstract this like a lightswitch where you push a button and bam! dozens of servers deployed all identical to each other that will never have any production updating issues.

>>57937205
Just use Antergos, Manjaro or ArchAnywhere. Epeen will be shorter, tho.

>>57937432
>not using vim

>>57937463
>not using spacemacs

>>57937463
>>57937475
>having to type a keybind to begin inputting text in a text editor

>>57937463
>being a vim babby
Use ed like a real man.

So I'll ask again. When I use dolphin I want to be able to select a directory or some files and press a key command to open the files with a particular program. For some reason this appears to be next to impossible.

whats the most simple, autistic FLOATING window manager other than swm?

Im annoyed by only being able to resize from one corner of the window, not being able to move windows partway offscreen, and wmutils scripst for fullscreen, focus, and a few other things are kinda fucky, and im certain I couldnt do any better if I just made my own.
It was fun to toy with it though

>>57937518
cwm. Seriously. Just read the manual and create a .cwmrc file.

Alt click to move windows and alt middle click to resize. Click anywhere on the window to do that.

>>57937535
cool, thanks

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>>57936317
What is Stallman's problem? Why is he such a degenerate and always full of piss and vinegar?

>>57936897
Yeah, it's really good.

>>57936961
>what's the point of using a fully free distro in a chpset with baked in ME that can not be disabled anyway?
This is true. IntelME has full TCP/IP stack and memory access and shares flash with the BIOS. It operates totally independently of the main CPU and is actually really frightening. Glad I'm Librebooted.
>You know very well X86 is hostile towards anything but commercialized proprietary software
But what's a realistic alternative to the x86 arch? Are my other choices really Angry Birds processors or outdated PPC stuff?

>>57937359
Almost any OS is good for that. Just install Debian. Mint and Ubuntu are fucking abortions.

>>57937736
Ignore the picture. 4chan keeps fucking up my images for some reason. I run Debian 8 with KDE on a P8400 with 4GB of RAM.

Gentoo user here.

Should I install Gentoo on my laptop or GuixSD?

>>57937751
>P8400
Q3 2008, nice.

Debian 8 on T7100, from Q2 2007.

I've been thinking about a cheap desktop though.

>>57937909
before using guixsd check if your hardware works with linux-libre

>>57937909
Guix can also just be your package manager for Gentoo, you drop in some binaries and then can scheme your system configuration.

Since you use Gentoo, it might be easier to roll Exherbo on your laptop using their package manager completely schemed with Guix but only if you want rollbacks and dependability. Exherbo is all ex Gentoo devs

>>57937736
>But what's a realistic alternative to the x86 arch?
of course, one doesn't exists. I just feel like x86 is cornering free users more and more every generation. PC architectures I guess are just too expensive with R&D and hours for a functioning free alternative. I suppose that's why Talos failed

Should I switch to arch linux? I use slackware and kind of bummed at how old the software is.

Systemd is nothing to fear right?

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>>57938214
"systemd is an init program"

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>>57938151
>I suppose that's why Talos failed
Well that's fucking depressing.

I really hoped I would get something like that in the future once the price per unit drop.
My car was cheaper than this mobo.

>>57938236
it's also because they are trying to fit a newly release architecture with server budgets in mind into a workstation that it failed. Even if they raised the money it would be very difficult to get a userland going because development for a relatively obscure platform with free software would be a mess.

The grand reason GNU/Linux flourished is because there weren't too many architectures that fragmented the dev community so a lot of manhours went into x86

Power8 is just too obscure. It needs to commercially scale to workstation to even become relevant and even then it would still have trouble attracting devs


That's my take, maybe someone with a more technical background can fill in the details and corrections

>>57938313
majority of mainstream distributions already support power7/8

>>57937463
>>57937475
>>57937489
>>57937490
>using editors
echo, cat, sed , pipes and redirects are all you need
maybe tee if you cant into su

>>57938375
>clearly never worked on any project larger then 10 lines of text

>>57938397
clap clap clap clap

i want be pro elo emac pro
any resources or just use it until i know every thing

>>57938345
yeah but there is a difference between support and having a working workstation with proper ports of everything you might need

just install kubuntu as my first distro. I Didn't know it was a meme distro. Should i install gentoo or debian. I want to learn about networking, so debian seems like a good choice, right?

>>57938556
Will you fuck off?
What the fuck is a "meme distro" you dumb asshole?

Stop seeking approval for every single decision you make.
You're supposed to be grown adult not a child.

>>57938556
Install Gentoo

>>57938556
Gentoo might scare you off, you need to know a little bit about GNU/Linux before using it. But if you really want to learn and will not get too frustrated (and give up early) when you make mistakes, go for it.

>>57938601
>friendly

>>57938630
grow up

i don't like debian
i don't like arch
i don't like fedora
i don't like *buntu
i don't like antergos
i don't like manjaro
i don't like centos
i don't like slackware
i don't like void
i don't like solus
i don't like pclinuxos
i don't like sabayon
i don't like calculate
i don't like freebsd
i don't like openbsd
i don't like dragonflybsd
i don't want to spend 3 days in stalling gen/funtoo

what am i supposed to do now?
why is every single operating system so flawed

>>57938761
Install Solus

>>57938761
>what am i supposed to do now?
accept your special snowflake award

>>57938761
Windows/OS X

>>57938761
I agree with your assessment that every distro is flawed. Simply pick the one you dislike least (for me, it was Debian).

Also, if you say what your concerns/issues are more specifically, we might be able to help fix them or find better alternatives.

>>57938809
Obviously he doesn't want Windows or OSX if he's looking at Linux distros.

>>57938761
Gentoo takes only maybe a day to install.

>>57938761
I don't see mint on there

Obviously the solution is to install mint

>>57938860
dismissing gentoo is easier for babbies

So explain to me extended partitions. An extended partition is the same as the regular partition its a part of? They're both the same partition in a way?

>>57938860
I'm not the guy you replied to, but an entire day for installation is way too long.

>>57938877
The only good thing about Mint is the creation of the Cinnamon DE. Besides that, it's just Ubuntu maintained by incompetent devs
.

>>57938886
An extended partition is a partition that holds other partitions on a disk. You only need an extended partition if your system NEEDS to use MBR. Otherwise, you're fine.

What steps are needed to upgrade to gentoo testing, other than just ~amd64 in make.conf. Is that all it takes?

>>57939025
why would you move your whole system to testing?

>>57939220
New software?

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>fucked up X editing confs
>FUCK can't log into any session now
>somehow I can still see login screen
>oh right I'm on Fedora
>log into GNOME on Wayland
>Correct my fuck up
>everything works again
>feels good man

>>57939441
>fix error within tty
>go on about your day

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How can I get touchpad tap to click working on things like awesome wm?

>>57939541
xev
xmodmap
xbindkeys

>>57939441
>need nvidia drivers
>nvidia recommends 375.20 for my card
>drivers available in package manager
>clean install, no issues
>first time i have witnessed nvidia running smoothly in plasma
>feels good

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Why does this happen? Can someone help me fix this?

>>57940378
KDE is pretty fucky sometimes. Maybe try restarting plasmashell, if its just something that appears after a bit

killall plasmashell && kstart plasmashell

or, maybe change the rendering backend in the compositor system settings thing?

>>57940867
Neither worked.
If it helps, my mouse cursor is set on resolution dependent and my mouse cursor always get smaller when I hover over the title bar on any window. This happens with any window decoration.

I fucked up x (by using wrong options with compton) like 4 times and had to reset my PC. How dangerous is doing that for my hard drives? Did I probably corrupt something?

>>57940937
I'm afraid I dont really know then, those are just the things I do when something fucks up on my KDE desktop.
I'm a lowly winbabby convert, so I dont think I can be of any help googling couldnt, at this point

got ubuntu on my hp stream, but the wifi isn't working. I looked online and it told me to check the additional drivers part, and i did and it says its working, but no networks are popping up. its weird because when I was trying it out without installing it was working okay. also open to trying other distros that aren't too difficult as long as they work.

When I ls and it gives me a list of shit, is there a way to copy paths and filenames from the list?

Like if I ls in a download folder and it gives me a list of shit like

user@debian:~$ ls -1
tvshow.s01e01.1080p.etc.etc

Is there a way to just get "tvshow.s01e01..." without typing that so I can cd faster?

>>57941352
You mean tab completion?

>>57941387
That will work?

>>57941459
Honestly I'm not really sure what you're asking here.
As for tab completion, why don't you just try it? Are you not on a Linux machine right now?
Basically as long as you type enough of a files name so that it can be uniquely identified in your current directory and then hit the Tab key it will fill in the rest of the files name, including any escape characters. So if that "tvshow.s01e01..." file you have is the only one that starts with "t" for example then you could just type t, hit tab, and that's it

Does anyone know if the next kernel release of Linux, will include better amd gpu support? Currently stuck using fglrx bs, with an r9 390.

>>57941523
Yeah that works ty

>>57941554
4.8.13 did

>>57942001

Nice, I guess I'll use Solus distribution since they'll update to 4.9 for sure.

Thanks!

>systemd is even a boot loader
wow

>>57941554
amd and the loonix kernel aren't playing nice now, did you miss the kernel drama?

>>57937535
>>57937679
goddamn aside from
>can only resize from one corner
this is great
thanks anon

>>57942647
No problem

Stock Ubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, or Xubuntu?

I hear the various Ubuntu flavors can be unstable so that's why I'm leaning towards Stock Ubuntu and installing a different DE over it.

>>57942679
Ive never heard about any issues with Xubuntu, even though I have with Ubuntu MATE.

I installed AntiX but I can't get sound to work. Tried to install Pulseaudio and had no luck. What should I do?

>inb4 memes

>>57942772
Did you try unmuting it?

Seriously I've seen that happen a million times in here.

>>57942788
Just to clarify, Pulse Audio would not even install. Got this when I tried to install it:

"Package pulseaudio is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source."

>>57942730
I've heard lots of good things about Xubuntu, guess I'll go with that. Thanks, anon.

My first distro was Mint but I'm switching because I like that feeling of being up-to-date and I really wasn't getting that feeling since Mint 18 is stuck on Ubuntu 16.04.

>>57942852
Install alsa-utils and type alsamixer. Then press M to unmute it. You don't need pulseaudio.

GNU/Linux rookie here. Want to install some drivers for an ethernet adapter I got. Readme says to extract the tar.gz file using a command and tells me that I can use something called modprobe to mount the driver with another command.

I'm really lost here. Sorry, trying to learn. Hope somebody can help.

>>57943115
tar.gz is a simple archive format like zip, just extract it
the modprobe command loads the driver into the kernel
read up both things (man helps)

>>57943115
You need the driver to be loaded as a module into your kernel for it to work. modprobe does exactly that.
Extract your tar.gz and do modprobe ath9k or the name of the module you're trying to load

>>57943222
http://pastebin.com/rPkmnCrj

These were the directions in the readme. I just extracted the file with a few clicks and now I have the .ko file and I'm not sure exactly what to do with it or how to reference it in the terminal with the modprobe command.

>>57943314
Just do sudo make install now.
It will do the rest itself, which probably includes modprobe.

Any tips on adding a battery indicator to awesome wm? I've been trying for awhile and nothing I have done is successful.

>>57943384
Yeah, try using a non-shit WM.
Something like i3, dwm or xmonad perhaps.

>>57943393
please leave this thread

>>57943347
"No rule to make target 'install'. Stop."

Damn.

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>>57943393
This is a friendly thread

>>57943518
The make dance goes like this:

make clean
make
make install

>>57943538
Got this:

"No rule to make target 'clean'. Stop."

Might be out of luck with this distro, dunno. Appreciate you tolerating me thus far though, even if I haven't gotten anywhere just yet.

>>57943589
Post the makefile here. Or just post a screenshot of what's in that archive.

>>57943498
No, it is you who should leave this thread. I am prohibiting you from browsing it any further.
>>57943527
This isn't the website you came from. At least try editing your filenames so you don't out yourself instantly.

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>>57943635
What does that filename tell you? Nothing.

>>57943652
That combination of filename + image tells me that you are a recent immigrant from a certain website.
Your people aren't liked here, there's no way you haven't noticed that.

So at what level of skill should one be before trying openSUSE? I'm a KDE addict and like Neon, but the boost to overall control you get with yast looks pretty interesting.

It doesn't really look like it's much more than taking a few more steps in the installation process, adding a few repos/codecs at the beginning to start, and learning slightly different terminal words for installing software. Is there more to it?

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>>57943624
Here's the contents of the archive.

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>>57943672
You're not very smart man.

1)I've been browsing here since 2011.

2)reddit/imgur filenames are short combinations of numbers and letters similar to 4qSrAce.jpg

3)you're an idiot

*flies away*

>>57943724
Post that Makefile here, also try doing "modprobe ax88179"

>>57943739
One) 2011, right, that's exactly when you guys started flooding this place. Everything checks out. Thanks for admitting to it.

Two) What does reddit/imgur have to do with our conversation exactly?

Three) You've shown it to be the exact opposite, that is to say you're the idiot here.

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>>57943775
Get out. No one here wants to read your bullshit newfaggy drama.

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have a nice wallpaper friends

>>57943749
"modprobe: FATAL: Module ax88179 not found."

http://pastebin.com/H0PZhky6

Here's the Makefile.

>>57943714
It doesn't give you more control than any other distro, it just centralizes your power so to speak.

Haven't used it, but that seems about right.

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>>57943775
>>57943739
>>57943672
>>57943635
>>57943393

>>57943810
You should be able to do make install as it is clearly in the Makefile.
Try doing it without sudo.

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>>57943799
no

>>57943816
Good post. What exactly was the deeper meaning behind it? Surely you didn't just post it without thinking, right?

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>>57943851

>>57943894
I don't think this picture answers my question in the slightest.

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>using linux
>not going on with your life

>>57943918
pick one?

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>>57943923
pick?

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is arch a meme distro

>>57943944
no, but it's not a very good one.
there is literally no "meme" distro around as far as I know.

what is the syntax to disable systemd for transmission/configure.ac

# Check whether to enable systemd startup notification.
# This requires libsystemd.
AC_ARG_WITH([systemd], AS_HELP_STRING([--with-systemd],
            [Add support for systemd startup notification (default is autodetected)]),
            [USE_SYSTEMD=$withval], [USE_SYSTEMD=no])
AS_IF([test "x$USE_SYSTEMD" != "xno"], [
    PKG_CHECK_MODULES([SYSTEMD], [libsystemd],
        [AC_DEFINE(USE_SYSTEMD,1,[Use systemd startup notification])],
        [AS_IF([test "x$USE_SYSTEMD" = "xyes"],
            [AC_MSG_ERROR([systemd startup notification support requested, but libsystemd not found.])]
        )]
    )
])

-            [USE_SYSTEMD=$withval], [USE_SYSTEMD=auto])
+            [USE_SYSTEMD=$withval], [USE_SYSTEMD=no])

yes?

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Will this ever be fixed?

>>57943956
try these commands depending on your distro
apt-get purge systemd
pacman -R systemd
emerge -C systemd
dnf remove systemd

>>57943979
2017 is our year.

>>57943956
>

--with-systemd

>>57943832
Alright, so this is kind of embarrassing but I only just figured out I needed to go to File and then Terminal(like I said, I'm a total novice here). That being said, I'm only being met with more error messages:

http://pastebin.com/Zi3HZ0c8

>>57943979
i believe a patch called the k desktop environment was released for this

>>57944000
Oh, basically do this from the very beginning.
cd into your folder with the .c and .h file from the terminal
make
sudo make install
that should do it.

>>57936765

>incoming deny
>outgoing allow

Don't you want that the other way around?

>>57943979
When it's ready.

>>57944023
>>57936765

No, wait, never mind. I'm stupid.

How to secure WINE? Let's say I want to play a nonfree game in WINE, is there a way to put it in something like a sandbox?

>>57943944
Depending on your use case. In my opinion it is a good choice if you are going to use a tiling wm.

>>57936823
Manjaro is, Cinnamon isn't.

>>57944068
how is the choice of a distro related to the choice of the wm? are you retarded?

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>>57943979

>>57944068
what kind of retardation is this?

>>57944093
>he installed a 1,5 GB huge filepicker

>>57943815
Okay yeah, "more" wasn't the right word. Just a more convenient central hub for control.

>>57944083
>>57944104
arch is well known beeing the no.1 distro for ricing

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>>57944116
>he fell for the arch meme

>>57944116
are you literally retarded?
so you're claiming "installing" and "ricing" a wm is somehow different on another distro?
archn00bs are truly delusional.
>>57944129
it's not meme though, just a shitty distro.

>>57944129
0/10 gentoo logo
Was this bitch drunk when she drew that?

>>57944068
In my opinion it is a good choice if you are going to use a anime wallpaper.

I am currently using an anime wallpaper. Should I install arch?

>>57944148
Are there other kinds?

>>57944019
>cd into your folder with the .c and .h file from the terminal

This is the only step I'm not clear on. Do you mean opening up the terminal and putting "cd" followed by the full filenames of the .c and .h files? Thanks again by the way.

>>57944162
help cd

>>57944162
No, cd means change directory, basically the same as clicking on a folder in your file manager.
Open your terminal, it'll start in your home directory. Then type "cd foldername" where foldername is your folder with the driver you wanna install.
Then do
make
sudo make install

>>57943979
there is a fix by some person but gnome has not and prolly will not merge it

>>57943997
is --without-systemd correct or should i remove the paragraph all together?

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I'm trying to obtain the CPU temps with hardinfo from puppylinux.
But the sensor menu doesn't display it.
I can get the CPU temps from the BIOS though, is it because of the old hardware?
It's Intel Pentium4.

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>>57944083
>>57944104

>in my opinion

>how is the choice of a distro related to the choice of the wm? are you retarded?

No. Choosing a distro based on your favorite environment is a good way to go. Package managers and repos and etc are irrelevant to me. Again 'my opinion'

KDE your favorite DE?
openSUSE has the best KDE experience

GNOME?
Fedora has the best GNOME integration hands down

i3/awesome/tiling?
Arch is a good choice because why would you want to install some distro that comes with another DE?

Personally I wouldn't use Arch for another use case. But hey, that's just like my opinion man.

>>57944156
How else are you gonna show off in Desktop threads?

>>57944223
cool xD
i guess ill install arch and opensuse now since i use both KDE and xmonad
didnt even know i was getting a """"Bad Experience"""" (totally not buzzwords) on gentoo
integration doesn't just mean a bunch of preinstalled programs right?
idk how its even possible to run firefox-kde-opensuse on other distros i mean it should have better """"intergation"""" with opensuse right?
>use case
don't fucking use that word if you think it means "choosing a distro based on the preinstalled software"
now "piss off" "mate"

>>57944266
gtfo out of the fglt

>>57944292
gtfo out of the (g/)lt
now "piss off"
dont reply to this

>>57944223
>I don't know what a net install is

>>57944312
but it wont have integration and a good experience mate!

>>57944223

You are the poster boy for Linux related stupidity. It's like someone took all the wrong opinions one could have and stuffed them into an existing idiot. Pretty much everything that you've said is wrong and there's no point in trying to explain to you why.

>>57944184
Alright, did that and didn't get an error message but the USB device still isn't being detected. The readme mentions this after the installation directions:

"Usage
1. If you want to load the driver manually, go to the driver directory and execute the following commands:

[root@localhost template]# modprobe usbnet
[root@localhost template]# insmod ax88179_178a.ko"

Should I try this next? Really would like to get this thing working if possible.

>>57944333
fucking this. if i could create a "person" from scratch to be a representation of every retarded meme about (GNU/)Linux, that would be it.

>>57944341
Yes, that should do it.

>>57944333
he isn't completly wrong, most distros patch their de packages with additional rice and fixes

So I have a weird problem where the backslash/pipe key outputs < and > for me. I found a command to fix it, and I put it in .bashrc to make the fix persist across reboots. But it doesn't take effect until I load Terminal up for the first time. Where do I have to put it so that I don't have to remember to open the Terminal?

>>57944381
>Fedora has the best GNOME integration hands down
You are mentally retarded if you think this statement isn't objectively false.

>>57944367
"bash: modprobe: command not found"

Used the normal terminal. Should I use the root terminal instead?

>>57944422
Yes, I don't think you can do modprobe with your normal user.

>>57944205
lm-sensors

>>57944437
"insmod: ERROR: could not insert module ax88179_178a.ko: Invalid module format"

So close and yet so far away.

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>>57944448
That's why I'm asking.
It doesn't detect the CPU temps.
Are there other ways to detect CPU temps/Fan speed in (puppy)linux?

>>57944577
sensors-detect

>>57944498
what does "rmmod axax88179_178a" output?

>>57944644
"rmmod: ERROR: Module ax88179_178a is not currently loaded"

>>57944600
Nope, nothing shows up.

>>57944200
>but gnome has not and prolly will not merge it
It hasn't even been submitted for review properly. I guarantee you the performance sucks with GtkIconView too.

>>57944654
do this
cd /lib/modules/whatever's your kernel version/kernel/drivers/net/usb
ls -a
and then screenshot that

>>57944498
You're trying to load a module into a mismatched kernel. The module must be compiled for your specific version.

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will linux (distribution and kernel) ever be viable for desktop?

Is there a keyboard oriented distro?

>>57944871
Arch has the best keyboard integration hands down.

>>57944867
define desktop, define viable
your post is meaningless without these definitions

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No memeing or shilling, is Solus actually a good OS for beginners?
I had planned to install Debian in a few weeks but Solus looks more polished.

>Are there any drivers for a dedicated secondary nVidia GPU?
>Does WiFi and audio work out of the box?
>Is it stable?

>>57944909

IMO Solus is, at best, redundant and obsolete.

>>57944909
No, it's shit
nope, debian is shit too.
Someone of your intellectual standing would probably find it good though

Of course, it is.

I've tried it and it's amazing. I still prefer Ubuntu 16.04 because of the more packages, but EOPKG (Solus Packages manager) it's great, very sleek and updated repositories.

>>57944909
it's meme distro, since install gentoo grew old.

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How accurate is this?

>>57944867
The day when Linux gets a desktop enviroment module.

>>57944946
lmao
>>57944959
explain to me how are they similar even in the slightest

When will people stop jacking off to distro logos and realize that all distros are the same?

>>57944992
please take this shit back to your website

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>>57945012
IIf all distros are the same, why not choose the one with the best logo?

>>57945012
in what way?

>>57944762
On it.

>>57944843
How do I address this problem?

Hey just wondering, new to Linux and trying to download Java, do I use Linux x64 java or Linux x64 RPM.

>2016
>not using Antergos+GNOME

>>57945066

>Antergos

>>57945064
you use Open JDK

At the moment, I'm torn between XFCE and MATE. KDE and Gnome 3 are both way too bloated for my taste, Cinnamon is kinda meh, and I still want a full desktop environment. Anyone want to argue which one is better?

>>57945064
Try using a better programming language instead.

>>57945066
>arch-based shite
>gnome
lel
>>57945084
define bloated
define full desktop environment
your post is literally just a bunch of words without any real meaning

>>57945084

>At the moment, I'm torn between XFCE and MATE.

MATE. Definetly MATE.

>>57945084

>At the moment, I'm torn between XFCE and MATE.

XFCE. Definitely XFCE.

>>57945097
"Bloated" as in a resource hog with a ton of shit you don't need. "Full desktop environment" as opposed to just a window manager, such as i3.

what

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>>57944762

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>>57944762
>>57944762

>>57945139
>resource hog
Neither of the DEs you listed could be described as "bloated" in that case.
>shit you don't need
Like what?

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I'm trying to install Ubuntu GNOME as a dual-boot alongside Windows 10. In Windows 10, Disk Management listed my partitions in the following order:
>260MB, 100% free EFI system partition
>371.85GB, 35% free NTFS C:
>499MB, 100% free Recovery partition
>558.91GB, 100% free NTFS D:

I want Ubuntu GNOME to go on the D: partition. Is that what pic related is showing me? If so, why is there a divider? I'm guessing that the part on the right is the Ubuntu GNOME installation, and the part on the left is my personal files (like my home folder and stuff). In that case, how much space does the Ubuntu GNOME installation need? What should I do? I understand that this is probably a very stupid question, but I don't want to have any uncertainty at all. After all, if I didn't need Windows anymore, I wouldn't be dual-booting, and I don't want to risk destroying it.

>>57945153
well, your module is definitely there. seems like it isn't compatible with your kernel version.
What distro are you even running? Try updating the kernel and kernel headers then try doing make, make install again

>>57945097
So.. Tell me a good rolling release distro better than arch

>>57945194
Why not just shrink a new partition?

>>57945205
https://gentoo.org/

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>>57945194
Just noticed the "advanced partitioning tool," so here's a screenshot of that.

>>57944577
Do you have a sensor chip displayed by lm-sensors? A jack-of-all-trades with temps, voltages and possibly rpms?

CPU temp is one of the temperatures. Usually the highest.

>>57945211
Not sure what you mean. I'm sorry, I don't know much about how drive partitions work.

>>57945216
>gentoo
Nice waste of time

>>57945194
That should do it.
Set a mount point at /boot/efi for sda1 though
and mount /dev/sda5 as /

>>57945204
AntiX.

A bit of a related question to linux. Which distro should I use, if I buy a laptop specifically for programming? I'm looking at around 1k range, so that if I decide to do some more demanding hardware work, it can handle it.
What are your suggestions, also, which laptop should I go for?

>>57945240
I'm not sure I quite understand your retarded post.
How exactly is it a waste of time?

>>57945259
This isn't even tangentially related to linux
Pretty much anything these days works with it so that really isn't an issue.

>>57945244
How do I do that? And how much space does the Ubuntu GNOME side need? Because if it's just going to consist of the OS and software, I don't think it needs 300GB of space.

>>57945259

Pretty much all currently active distros are suitable for this role.

If I had to suggest something I'd say openSUSE, but that's just because I personally love it.

>>57945285
>And how much space does the Ubuntu GNOME side need?

you can bash a full-featured binary based gnu/linux distro on a 20gb partition and still have free space m'lord.

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>>57945084
>I'm torn between XFCE and MATE

>>57945285
Just double click on the entry with /dev/sda1.
If you want to make a new partition for ubuntu then just hit on /dev/sda5 and pick change, i'm guessing that should do it. then shrink the partition to whatever you want
also better look up a video or something so you don't accidentally do anything unintended.

>>57945285
>And how much space does the Ubuntu GNOME side need? Because if it's just going to consist of the OS and software, I don't think it needs 300GB of space.
50 gigs should be more than enough. It's the OS + any system-wide stuff you install.

>>57945012
That a problem which is naturally solved by the users age.

>>57945233
Nothing shows up.
It's really old hardware from 2003.
The CPU temps shows up in BIOS.

>>57945341
do a sensors-detect as root

post the full output

>>57945313
So I can drag the slider and make the /dev/sda6 side be about 20GB and be fine? In that case, how do I do what >>57945244 said? Do I do that from within the installer? How?

>>57945361
Double click on /dev/sda1, it should bring up a menu where you can set the mount point
Then set /boot/efi (not /boot, that would fuck everything up)
For your ubuntu root partition select your new one, i'm assuming it's /dev/sda6 and mount it as /

>>57945240
The install doesn't take much longer than arch, the usage is about the same really if you don't have a piece of shit as your processor

>>57945234
If you don't know what that means you should probably read up on what you're doing some more before continuing.

But you could probably go into manual partition selection and change D to be the ext4 file system and the mount point to / and be fine.

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>>57945379
Double-clicked it, but got pic related.

>>57945407
Try clicking change then, I haven't used the ubuntu installer a lot so i don't really know

>>57945423
Same thing. It doesn't look like there's a way for me to set the mount point for any partition.

>>57945444
the installer is a piece of shit then, is there some way you can manually partition the drives with it in another menu?

what is the best linux distro for gaming?

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>>57945477
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>57945407
Just follow one of the many guides that hold your hand doing exactly this.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation

>>57945458
Not that I know of. I'm thinking of going into Windows and just eating D: up into C: to make the installation easier on me, though I'm wondering if that
>499MB, 100% free Recovery partition
would be an obstacle, since it was displayed between C: and D:.

>>57945499
whatever you do don't touch /dev/sda1 as that is sure to fuck things up for you.

>>57945477
>what is the best linux distro for gaming?
a lot of people says ubuntu and steamOS are the distro to go because they are officially supported.
I didn't tried them so I can't tell, but using a bleeding edge distribution might be a better idea. When I bought the talos principle few months ago it runned like shit and had to lower the settings to the minimum. In just a few months I can play it with everything set to high.

Maybe it would be the same with ubuntu or fedora or whatever the distribution, but my experience is that I saw great improvement all this year with a bleeding edge distribution.

Now the problem with /fglt/ is that once you say arch, gentoo or debian testing it will result in an endless shitposting.

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I finally got everything working just fine on my little server using quickbox.io but it feels bloated as shit since I'm using ubuntu (desktop) an stuff

to try to unbloat it a little I just did sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop + sudo apt-get autoremove I wonder if I will break anything

There is any better (easy) alternative to quickbox?

Should I just use ubuntu server or I will notice no difference?

>>57945615
why you didn't went with ubuntu server in the first place ? or with another distribution more suited for servers ?

>>57945634
It was my first time I didn't even know ubuntu server was a thing and quickbox need ubuntu or debian and looks like debian fails a lot with it

i'm going to install debian
But I have over 100GB of ripped music on my harddrive
I have two hard disk. One with windows and the other one with some random data
How should i manage the instalation to have debian and my music?

>>57945614
>debian testing
people should stop installing testing
stable is good for stable servers or complete newcomers, unstable for the average desktop user

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So I'm back. I deleted the D: partition, and according to the instructions in https://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation, I plan to use the free space as follows:
>20000MB ext4 /
>600122-24096MB ext4 /home
>4096 swap area
>Note that there usually is an existing EFI System Partition (short ESP, efi in the screenshot), that the installer will automatically detect and mount to install EFI loaders and programs.
Am I good to go, or is this going to royally screw something up?

should i go with fedora instead of debian?

What do I have to consider when I want to install Debian? Is the package situation really that bad?
Does WiFi and audio work out of the box?

>>57946101
Consider not installing a piece of shit on your computer.

>>57946175
>>>reddit

>>57946175
Please stop already.

>>57946216
Yeah, that's where I think he got the idea of installing it in the first place.
>>57946217
Stop what? How can I stop something if I don't even know what "stop" entails?

>>57946239
The "Friendly" in the thread title means not being a faggot towards necomers or trolling them. Make yourself useful or fuck off.

>>57944046
please respond

>>57946402
For native programs there is firejail, not sure if it also works for WINE stuff.

>>57946101
>Is the package situation really that bad?
Nah, just use aptitude instead of apt, it helps solving problems when you fuck something up.
>>57946101
>Does WiFi and audio work out of the box?
Depends on your hardware, if you need a nonfree driver for your wifi, you just need to enable the nonfree repo and install your driver, that's it.
In case you're lazy, just go with Ubuntu.

>>57944046
>Let's say I want to play a nonfree game in WINE, is there a way to put it in something like a sand


Your life was a mistake

>>57946483
see >>57946290

>>57944046
You could use a firejail.
Or better yet chroot.
Or do like me.
I have mSATA SSD with windows on it and I use it when I want to play games.

>>57946470
Different guy, using Ubuntu. Been using apt - what exactly makes aptitude better?

>>57946521
I'm using apt too, but I think aptitude is good for noobs because it provides friendly [y/n] solutions, while apt just prints an error message and the user needs to solve the problem manually.

should I learn bash or zsh for scipting?

>>57946619
First learn bash, then learn POSIX sh, then, if you want, learn something else. POSIX shell scripts > every other shell scripting language, because of portability, which is useful when you switch systems or want to share your scripts. A POSIX compatible shell script will run in most shells, while a script with bash, zsh or fish-only elements only works on the specific shell.

>>57946002
Make the free space ext4 and make the mount point / and don't touch anything else and you're good.

Friendly next thread: >>57946686

>>57946402
>>57944046
WINE is fine. A malicious executable for Windows can't do anything to Linux.

>>57946711
Sorry but you're completly wrong.

I'm new as shit to Linux and I know the sticky says that /g/ isn't for personal tech support ... but how the fuck do I install Linux as dual boot without needing an external Hard Drive to boot from. I just want to launch my PC and choose which OS to use.
I managed this a few years ago on a laptop, but I can't remember how and then the motherboard died.

>>57946290
How does "friendly" stop me from doing that? Is it physically compelling me to do so? I am I contractually obliged to do so when I'm using this site? Is there anything that states I can't go against whatever notion of "friendly" you have dreamt up in your head? As far as I'm aware I didn't sign anything when making my first post in this thread.

Don't even consider posting this bullshit if you can't answer all of this.

>>57946290
You are fucking retarded, just saw the second part.
Who defines "useful" here? How can you possibly know if someone is "useful" when he doesn't have an account? What is the objective measure of "useful" that every single poster here has agreed to? I assume I missed some kind of registration process which explains the terms and asks me for my agreement if I want to post here.

And how can you stop me from being unfriendly if I didn't sign a contract with you and I'm not breaking 4chan rules?
Please take your retarded bullshit to some other site, reddit.com would be a good choice for someone like you.

>>57946726
Do people actually create viruses intended to infect linux through wine? Otherwise wouldn't closing wine kill it?

>>57946779
The "Friendly" in the thread title means not being a faggot towards necomers or trolling them. Make yourself useful or fuck off.

Opinions about openSUSE Tumbleweed?

>>57946735
It's really brainless on most "user friendly" linux distros. They do everything for you.

Filesystems on disk use something called partitions. Even windows uses partitions, and in fact a lot of computers will come preinstalled with an extra partition on the disk for system restores or some crap.

One partition usually, very tiny, houses the bootloader that fires up the OS. If the bootloader is configured for multiple OSs and knows which partition they reside on then you can dual boot.

All you need is to create extra space on your harddrive to create a new partition, install the distro on it and overwrite the windows bootloader to GRUB which will let you choose which OS to boot.

But like I said all of this is pretty much done for you on distros like Ubuntu and Manjaro I think, and you'll get a chance during the install to specify how much you want to shrink your windows partition by to make space.

>>57946869
I haven't agreed to that though. Does posting here require signing a contract stating that I will be friendly?
If not, fuck off.
You still haven't answered a single question.

>>57946735
There are lots of great guides online to do this.

Essentially you need to shrink a volume from disk management in Windows. Boot into a live usb and install the distro onto the partition you created. Most installers will configure grub for you so that when you boot up you will be able to select what you want to boot.

>>57946711
Yes, it can.
I've been doing WINE and malware research because I'm sick of /g/ contradicting opinions.
wait for it in next BH.

>>57946979
I'm pretty sure when people say it can't do anything what they mean is it is extremely unlikely that you're going to run into anything Linux specific while running WINE applications.

Which means no privilege escalation, and only windows specific infections (which can't be run without you starting up wine again anyway)

On the other hand, if some evil mastermind gets you to run a windows application knowing that you'll use WINE and hides Linux specific malware inside it then sure, maybe you'll be vulnerable.

>>57947050
>I'm pretty sure when people say it can't do anything what they mean is it is extremely unlikely that you're going to run into anything Linux specific while running WINE applications.
Not necessarily.
Try running MEMEZ under WINE.
Or any malware that overwrites your MBR.

>>57947116
So WINE will interpret syscalls or whatever to linux but how does it get root access? I've never given WINE root access.

>>57947050
On a standard wine installation the home dir of the user gets symlinked to the windows appropriate, so any mlaware nuking that will be able to really hurt your system.

>>57947153
It doesn't need root access.
Try it.

>>57947187
Yeah, but how much malware out there even "nukes" anything? They don't just fuck with you for fun, most malware serves a malicious purpose that benefits from you not even knowing you've been infected.
It's just going to do what it does on windows, install itself into the locations for autostart on windows (which will be inside the wine directory) or add shit to your registry (which is still contained in wine).
Say it goes looking for executables in your home folder to infect, is it even going to detect Linux executables as valid targets?

Have you ever been infected with malware that just randomly does shit to your computer to fuck with you with no real purpose? Because I remember back in the days when I was still using windows, going to shady porn sites and getting infected, and I never came across anything like that.

>>57947314
The point is that wine is not a security-layer.
How likely or unlikely an infection would be is a whole different question, and most malware targets pebkacs anyway (and I suppose if you're here you'd be above that level of incompetence)

>>57947314
A simple malware that delete your partition tablet is more than enough.

I want to install openSUSE.
Will my WiFi and audio and my second GPU work out of the box?
Here are my specs: http://pastebin.com/USJPkmHj