/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Previous thread: >>57654256

Should I update the Management Engine firmware on an x201, or this going to cuck the laptop even more? What about the regular BIOS (which is only slave to the iME) update?

I lost my damn mind and got an X220, but very excited desu.

sorry for noob question where i can buy a good supply?
amazon? ebay? or other ?

>>57694082

Newegg has some x220 refurbs for under 200

>>57694286
is it deliver only us?

>>57694316

Some places they do check here: https://kb.newegg.com/Article/Index/12/3?id=1400

I just bought Thinkpad T30 for 10€ .
Problem here is that It didn't include battery or charger. By the looks of it, it has one stick of 256mb ram and 160gb hdd and the computer itself is missing a lot of screws.

And if I wanted to get this up and running, just the way I like it, it would cost me EUR 93,17 in amazon.
This includes the charge and battery but the 2gb ram is quite expensive (46€) .

Should I pull the trigger on this one or should I postpone and look for alternatives.

What do you guys think? What should I do with this?

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Does everyone else's X220s' get hot af all the time

>>57694815
It gets quite hot so use the windows power management thingy to restrict the amount of percentage your computer can use

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>>57693747
One interesting thing to note about T430:
it's designed in such shitty way, that it has a fan inflow in 2,5" cage, which means replacing standard 2,5" drive with much smaller msata to sata board increases airflow, which cools both SSD and CPU/GPU.
Notice like 5C dg drop in temperatures after replacing.

Can I improve the T420's battery life significantly by buying a 9 cell battery? I'm thinking of buying a T420 but the battery life is preventing me

hey /tpg/

I am looking for a relatively new 12.5-13" business laptop

what it should have:
-trackpoint
-relatively good screen
-good battery life
-at least 2 DIMM slots (or comes with 32GB RAM)

does such thing exist?

>>57696138
also 10/10 Linux support is a must

>>57696104
Yes.
You can get 9cell main + 9 cell slice, which should give you 24 hours of battery life

>>57696304
Should I buy a battery from Lenovo or could I risk buying from a 3rd party?

>>57696329
from lelnovo
9cell lelnovo one has 94Whs of capacity, while 3rd party are 70Wh max

>>57696138
x260
>yes
>yes
>yes
>yes (2x16GB)
>yes

I need a new laptop for programming. Help me decide:

> Thinkpad
> Dell XPS 15
> Surface Book Pro

>>57696853
Are you sure about the 32GB memory? As far as I can see, the X260 only has a single memory slot.

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guys I fucking NEED a good trackpoint keyboard for my desktop, I've been spoiled on the glory of the nipple pointer. Seems like the SpaceSaver II is the best neutral-ish one that exists but it's impossible to find, and the ones I have found are all damaged.
www.ebay.com/itm/252401268066
>All are missing feet
>Some are missing KEYS
wtf guys I just want a nice keyboard

>>57696329
3rd party never ever

>>57696912
>for programming
thinkpad ya dummy
what did you expect

>>57696782
>>57697009
Is the T420 for $300 and a 9 cell 94Wh battery for $75 a good price?

>>57697038
eh/10
you could do much better

>>57697051
It's hard as I'm in the UK

>>57697064
Careful of Amazon uk, lots of fake or badly described thinkpads being sold right now. Some guy was selling T60s but was sending XR1. Some of the 3rd party batteries on there are really cheap but have a habit of dying a few months in. I just bought a x220 from there was claimed as new. And it was pretty damn good looking externally, not a mark, but inside was mega dust.

>>57697265
Thanks for the warning, I think I'm going to buy a refurbished T420 so idk how that will go

So I just went and ordered a refurbished german T420 for 190€, seller described it as just having cosmetic wear on keys and touchpad.
How was it and what am I in for?

I'm not >>57697293 btw

M2-SSD works on x131e?
Yes or no

T430 with i5-3360M with an almost new battery for $260, is it a good deal? Or should I rather get a T420 with i5-2520M for $215?

What distro do you run on your ThinkPad?
I run Fedora on my T430s. I'm thinking of switching to Ubuntu. For the simple reason that more people use it so it's easier to get some random application or library up and running on it.

>>57698190
I would probably go with antergos or manjaro

Be sure to look for Lubuntu or Xubuntu because they are lighter
Ubuntu otherwise is shittier spyware botnet but it should not be that anymore after 16,04 version

>>57698190
I'm using Mint, pretty neat.

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So this thing fell off, and I kept puttin it back on and it kept fallin off

Might still find it and if I do I'll stop being a fuckin dumbass and actually glue it back on, but if not

What are they called? Are they sold separately, or would I need to buy another bottom plastic part of the laptop, which I don't know what it's called either

>>57698427
They are called rubber feet and can be bought by themselves.

>>57698427
https://www.google.no/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=x220%20thinkpad%20feet

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>>57698454
>>57698463
>Feet

Cute af name
Thanks chaps, found 'em

Was about to post this and I've just realised, the body is actually of the x220 tablet for some reason, you can see the pen entry point.
Never noticed that before

>>57696962
well shit, you're right
Then I don't know. 12,5" with 32GBs of RAM will be extremely hard to find. The only option is 2x16GB

>>57693791
i updated bios and now it shows a error and requires a keypress on every boot to continue

Is the T420 outdated?

>>57698793
Depends on what you want it for, perfectly fine for shitposting and watching chink cartoons..

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I want something like x120e but with updated specs:
>i7 ULV
>6cell battery option
>2 DDR3/4 DIMMs, capable of handling 16GBs of RAM
>mSATA/m2 slot for SSD
>mPCIe/m2 for WWAN module
>mPCIe/m2 for WLAN
>11,6" screen, at least 1920x1080 res

Please tell me there is a laptop like that on the market. This form factor is absolutely superior

>>57694560
bump
I need answer pls

Chances there will be a daily deal on the P50? They had one for the P70 a few days ago.
Or should I wait until the new series which will hopefully be a better value?

>>57698916
x220 is the closes to that
>i7 cpu
check
>9 cell battery or 6 cell
check
>16gb is possible but official supports 8gb
look thinkpad wiki on this
>msata for ssd
well you can use the WWAN slot of that, but 2,5" is for SSD
>WWAN
check
>Wlan
check
>11,6" screen, at least 1920x1080 res
not quite, 12,5' screen with 1920x1080

Questions?

>>57698974
x220 is too big, and sandy bridge is 32nm, which means it's deprecated
I wan't ULV CPU so the laptop can be light and thin. x220/x230 is the opposite of that

>>57698998
fuck you too then

get a macbook pro then

>>57699019
Why so hostile, you little neckbeard dipshit?
If you don't have the answer then why bother wasting my time?
Get back to >>>/b/

>>57698349
The Mint project looks cool.

the thing i'm experiencing, as an example. i go download some software to work with a board, a project i'm working on. there's a blog post that shows how to compile, install and use the software, but the author based the guide on his ubuntu system, so he assumed you have access to ubuntu repos, commands, libraries, etc.
yeah, i eventually got it done and everything working (i believe) on my fedora system but it would have just been easier to use ubuntu and just be done with it.
i'm thinking of trying ubuntu cinnamon desktop or something. i don't think unity is awful and i don't have to worry about HiDPI support so thats a good fall back plan.

>>57699034
why having such a shitty taste on laptop?

there is no such laptop with those kind of specs in that form factor

And you come spouting shit in /tpg/ thread where thinkpads are shilled 24/7
What the hell did you expect?

>>57699112
>shitty taste
It's my choice, not yours. If you have nothing valuable to say then stay quiet, you dumb motherfucker. This is /g/, not /b/.
Arrogant dumbfuck.

>>57698998

Explain what kind of limitation you have that a 12' laptop little over 1Kg is not light enough.

>>57699240
>little over 1kg
>x220
top kek. Maybe without the battery.
x220 is an overheating piece of shit that should be put somewhere to the museum.

>>57699240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9Ccuhf_3Y

>>57699276
>x220 is an overheating piece of shit
Only if poorly maintained.

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>>57699159
>>57699159
>This is /g/, not /b/
not an argument :^)

>Arrogant dumbfuck.
I would assume that you are one of those because all under 13" laptops are powerless shitty netbooks with atom or celeron cpu with max 4gb of ram. If you have ever even used 12,5" x220 or x230, they aren't even large for what they can provide
>muh sandy brigde
I bet you haven't heard of X320 mod

Just leave the thread if you don't want to go through the fact that x220 is godtier by its size

>>57699276
then please provide us some other laptop with similar specs as X220

>>57699290
Nevertheless the size does not tell the whole truth. X220 laptop is way out of its league.

>>57699333
trips truth

Is $350 a good price for the T520 (core i7, 16GB, Nvidia Optimus, 512GB SSD)?

>>57699416
"Fully Refurbished, Tested and Preconfigured"

what do you guys think of the ASUSPRO BU201

>>57699342
2570p
12,5" laptop with dvd drive (so can be replaced with 2nd HDD), socketed ivy bridge CPU (so you can install quad core CPU) and non-whitelisted WLAN/WWAN ports
get shrekt, faggot

What distro do i put on my L460, tried ubuntu but it runs like shit. I'm new to linux so i'd rather not have something too autistic, at least not to start up with.

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>>57699453
NANI??!?

I totally forgot that one
plus you gotta love that nice metal body it packs

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>>57699452
forgot the pic

>>57699475
lubuntu or xubuntu

do note that ubuntu is botnet spyware and can't be trusted

>>57699056
So far every guide for ubuntu was working for my Mint.

>>57699491
I wouldn't recommend asus laptops

Have you done your homework about this laptop? Just so, you know where you are getting yourself into

>>57699453
>quadcore in a 12.5" HP laptop
There are more efficient ways to kill yourself, anon.

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>>57699240
>being so weak that 1kg is too much weight
feels good to not be a weakfag. few kgs feel like nothing to me.

>>57699541
i haven't researched this laptop, no. i just think it looks cool, like a combination of macbook pro and thinkpad.
i wouldn't be surprised if it was shit quality though.

>>57699557
It might be sometimes a problem for people who leave their houses. :^)

>>57699557
>tfw I have 14" 3,6kg laptop that is 5cm thigh
I don't get these thin and light fags at all

>>57699575
then don't buy if it only looks "cool"

You know, all thinkpads look alike for the last 20 or so years
It means nothing. Get atleast T420 for functionality

>>57697009
>mfw i have one and its nice
Kdeep looking and you too will have an RT3200 some day anon.

I still need to get one of the IBM keyboards with a blue enter key to see if i can swap it over.

>>57699609
i already have a thinkpad. i was thinking about an upgrade.

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>>57699589
is it a toughbook?

>>57699546
like telling your mother to spread her legs?

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>>57699662
Yes
This is a semi-rugged laptop but my dream is to own cf-31 with i5-520m or sandy brigde because they are cheap enough so my dream can become true

I bought this because the climate here is cold so I need something that can withstand that

>>57700110
Buy a Pentium 4 laptop

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how do you deal with this, don't these speaker gratings catch dirt fast?

>>57700172
Those are cheap as hell, but I would be shitting myself because finding software for those might be quite problematic and windows xp is helpless with ssd management

But those i5-520m and later models cost like 550€ but I think I can deal with that because my current semi-rugged has i5-560m and 8gb ram

>>57698642
Doesn't sound too good at all. Did you update directly to the latest version (i.e. 1.40)? Did you try restoring the default BIOS settings?

>>57700226
My left grating looks like shit, no idea what to do.

>>57700226
Might as well get a new upper cover.

What are some of the differences between a T420 and T430? A friend is really pushing the 430 on me hard because Newegg is having a sale.

>>57694560
Its use will be quite limited even if you restore/upgrade it completely. The performance (both CPU power and RAM amount) can be matched or even surpassed by netbooks from the 2009/2010 period, which also support SATA - you can install a modern HDD or even SSD in a netbook, while you're limited to old PATA HDDs with the T30.

>>57694837
How about cleaning/fixing the cooling system instead? Lol.

>>57694815
You need to do the above asap, all the components are being cooked right now (for instance the HDD is at almost 50 degrees which is way too much). You are drastically reducing the unit's lifespan if you're trying to use it like this. Download the HMM for your model and do the required maintenance.

>>57700475
Fair point

What are your temps with x220 then?

>>57700385
i have a T430s. i really like it. One downside is that the keyboard isn't quite as good as the T420s. But it's faster and I could put on a T420 if I want.
Another downside is the T430s fan is always at audible speeds. It's something to do with the type of CPU in it and the cooling configuration.

These are all old machines though. I also have an X1C3 laptop which is my main computer. It's a lot faster, a lot lighter, a much better display and overall a much better experience. It's expensive and the keyboard is terrible though.

>>57700385
I should add that I wouldn't be using it very often. Only for a week or two, every couple of months when travelling as I have a full desktop.

>>57700427
I full knowledge that and I do believe this laptop won't be serving me other than some light use and probably some vn if I get it to work

I saw a pata adapter which could take m2 ssd

>>57700385
T420:
Classic keyboard
You can put in every chink battery without need to flash custom bios

T430:
Ivy Bridge (+5% on CPU, + 30% on GPU)
USB 3.0

In other aspects they should be identical. Correct me if I'm wrong,
I'm typing this from stock T420 and it's neat.

>>57693791
If BIOS is not broken, why change anything?

>>57700110
How is the display in bright sunlight?

>>57700908
no problem at all

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>>57694078
me too.

>>57700816
Unrelated to the post you're replying but upgrading (or downgrading) the T420 to modded 1.46 BIOS should be a must imo.

Aside from removing the whitelist and unlocking 1600/1866mhz ram it adds a fuckton of settings to tweak.

>>57697823
please

>>57701102
Get whatever, the only difference is sb vs ib cpu and usb 3.0, everything else is the same or worse like the keyboard.

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>making the T431s bearable
>tfw can't find proper synaptics driver and currently have the gimpy middle scroll

>>57700110
>käyttää ruggerisoituja läppäreitä läpällä
ttett

Can a Thinkpad Edge i3 330m run CSGO and League?

>>57701186
go to pussy¨
xdxddxdxdxdx

>>57701186
venaa
olinko sittenkin tunnistettu'd?
voihan kyrpä :DD

>>57701196
probably LOL but idk about cs:go.

give the exact specs.

does thinkpad that looks like L440 (no sound grills on side like T420) and has ivy bridge that is not soldered on board exit?

How is the IPS screen on the x230t/x230/t430?

>>57701440
t430 doesn't have ips

>>57701087
How to downgrade from 1.49? Can't find shit about it.

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>>57701357
naa nigga. cf-19 tuli intissä tutuksi niin huutikset sille joka käyttää noita pussy satans muuten kuin pakosta

>>57700753
Does the ivy bridge make a noticeable difference?

I don't really know much about thinkpads desu. I had a T410 and it no longer powers on (the stock battery was dying before that), even using a new battery and cord wont make any lights turn on or anything. So I'm thinking a T420 or T430 on sale will be cheaper than diagnostics/fix since it's probably the port or something internal.

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Finally join the master race. Pic related is my battery life with 68++ without internal batt

>>57701486
mutta veli kulta
nämähän on sellaisia saatana järkäleitä jotka eivät hajoa mistään eikä vesi tai pakkanen ole mikään ongelma. Tosin siinä samalla kyllä käytettävyys kärsii kun ovat niin painavia ja isoja.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n6mX8Q1waA
tämä video sai myi minut täysin 5/5 kone

>>57701496
It would make a difference, if you want to play games on integrated graphics. Otherwise - no difference.

Was in a shop in town, offering W510 for 400$ with
- nVidia fx880M,
- 8GB RAM + 4 DIMM Slots total,
- i7-x920 @ 2.0Ghz
- 1600x900 TFT (I think)
- 500GB SATA

He also had some T420/430 and s variants. Just curious if the W510 is a solid performer. I read some stuff on the thinkwiki that makes me uncomfortable, like the melting audio, and the power/whine issues.

>>57701725
Those first-gen quadcore i7s are pretty mediocre, and $400 can get you a much better W520 on ebay.

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>>57701577
>vesi tai pakkanen ole mikään ongelma.
jep jep joo, juttu on siinä että milloin kuvittelet dataavasi noissa olosuhteissa? on se kiva että ukko omaa kaiken maailman CERTIFIED UNITED STATES OF AMERIKAN ARMEIJA MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS kriteerit täyttävän koneen, mutta loppujen lopuks sulla seisoo se 5kg lumppu kirjoituspöyällä suhteellisen hermeettisissä olo suhteissa

t. t420 blaze it ukko ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>57701458
You'll need the custom bios (i'm using sendspace.com/file/0whb9r) and then forcefully flash it with a command prompt window running as admin to skip the date verification.

I need a laptop for college and personal use (gaming, consuming media, etc)

I'm thinking about getting a t420. I've read a lot of good stuff about it but i have some questions.

How's the battery life? I haven't found clear info about it yet.

Do I need to get new parts for it or is it great as it is already?

How's the WiFi on it?

What's better than this "legendary" machine for under 300 dollars?

>>57700226
The grilles are just stickers. You can order new ones for cheap.

>>57701920
>How's the battery life?
My 9-cell battery does about ~5-6h with normal usage, ~9 idling.

>Do I need to get new parts for it or is it great as it is already?
It's great as it is, unless you got the version with 1366x768 then you'd have to upgrade the screen to 1600x900.

>How's the WiFi on it?
Good i guess, never had any issues with the WiFi dropping or the like.

>What's better than this "legendary" machine for under 300 dollars?
Dunno i'm not from usa

>>57701972
Are the stickers for the t420 the same size as the ones for the t430? I peeled mine off because of how grungy they looked

>>57701991
how do i know if it comes with a 9-cell battery?

If it doesnt, then where can I get a genuine one?

>>57695485
I don't think that's true. I think it's just cooler because small HDDs get fucking hot while SSD's don't.

>>57701972
what the... what's the point of them even existing then?

>>57702031
The 9-cell one sticks out at the back.

If you see a T420 looking like a rectangle it has the 6-cell, if it has a giant tumor on the back then it has the 9-cell.

Amazon i guess, i'm not from usa.

>>57702009
Should be. The two laptops are almost completely identical.

>>57702074
To make the speakers look like they're bigger than half-inch circles and to keep dirt from getting into them I guess.

>>57702082
THANKS a lot for that.

Is the T420 good for hackintosh? Can I use it for live performances without it crashing on me?

>>57702165
You're welcome, feel free to ask if you got any other questions.

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>>57702167
its fucking great for mackintosh
battery life is actually better than windows

>>57701782
I was also looking at T530's with nVidias, but I'll look for 520's. Thanks.

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>>57701812
Suunnittelin kyllä aluksi hankkivani tietokoneen inttiä varten ja sitten toisen koneen (esim X220) yliopisto perseilyä varten.

Tosin tällä hetkellä minulla on niin saatanasti koneita etten enään pysty keksimään hyvää syytä semmoisen ostamiseen. Noh tulen tänä talvena saamaan lisäkokemusta, jonka pohjalta voisin miettiä tuollaisen ostamiseen.

Sekä yksi toinen projekteista olisi hankkia tietokone battery bank, josta saisin virtaa pitkään mobiilissa paskapostailuun jopa 20 pakkasessa. Kuullostaisiko tämä liian absurdilta ja turhalta? Tottakai, mutta on sekin mielenkiintoinen kokemus kun tehdä mitä vaan missä vaan ja pitkään :DD

>>57702307
ignore the artefacts dunno why it appears like that

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>hasn't bought the meme backpack yet
What's your excuse?

>>57702307
>packages: 43
what

I'm considering buying a T430, but there are a couple things I would like some confirmation on.

What's it like to play vidya on a T430? We're talking about stuff like EU4 and Minecraft.
I've got a Dell Precision M6500 with Quadro, and I'd like to know what kind of downgrade I'm looking at with Intel HD.

Also, I've heard people talking about ThinkPads having poor audio quality. If I'm trying to listen to my vast collection of swamp-power electronics with my $2,000 Sennheisers, what can I expect in terms of quality?

>>57702429
App store apps and system utilities don;t count as packages, must be some meme package manager installed

>>57702429

i think its the number of home-brew packages installed

Anyone have the x61/s with SXGA+ ?

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>>57702342
itekkin mehustellut x220:kymppistä jo pari vuotta mutta haluan juuri välttää tuon romurautakasan hankkimisen. http://www.lapstop-online.de/ yks mitä tullu kuolailtua aika tiuhaan.

battery bank koneille on kyllä ihan housut päässä retarded homma, ihan täydellisen epäkäytännöllinen. sijoita mieluummmin hitto kunnon puhelimeen.

mitä meinasit talvena?

Is the ThinkPad 13 any good? Been hearing it meme around a little bit.

>>57702441
The poor audio quality is in reference to the laptop's speakers.

What do you think of Toshiba Satellite laptops? Are they just usual shitty laptops?

>>57702663
ongelmana tässä nykyisessä semi-rugged koneessa on se, että akun kesto on se 5-3h, joten joudun kantamaan laturia mukana jos kerta käytän koulujutuissa.

Getac:n akut on harvinaista tavaraa eikä niitä löydä monestakaan suomalaisen yritysten hyllyiltä. Siten päädyin että ostan "universaalin" eli siis se battery bank,josta sitten voisi ladata molempia koneita ja myös puhelinta.

Kyllä minun mielestäni on hyvä ratkaisu ja pystyn käyttämään sitä näin kolmeen läppäriini

>>57693747
What thinkpad do you guys use and what upgrades x os did you put on it?

t420 with dual HDD and arch here, rest of it is stock for now

>>57702917
T420 with Windows 7.
>i7 2720qm + 16gb ddr3l 1600mhz ram with modded BIOS
>msata ssd + ssd + optical drive to rip music CDs
>9-cell battery, 1600x900 screen
>Docking station + eGPU setup, waiting for my 1050 Ti to arrive.

>>57702736
I just ordered one at a decent enough price, using just EPP. Black friday is the same 'deal'.

>>57702993
damn son

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I'm going for my second year of CS and my 15.6 inch ASUS has had its day (pic related, I did not take very good care of it). Should I drop 200 buckeroos on an x220?

>>57703181
you might as well since you are shit at taking care of your computer.

>>57703181
That looks like a 15" laptop so maybe an x220 would feel too small imo, maybe the 14" t420 would be better.

>>57703216
To be fair I used it very heavily for 5 years. Then I fucked up and used super glue to put in the rubber stoppers and the drop of glue I used spilled out over to make those hideous white stains on the screen.

>>57703181
did you melt it wtf

What is the maximum resolution I can get from x220 by changing the default screen? And where can I find a new screen?

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What are the keyboards like on the T430 and above models?

>>57703301
1920x1080

>>57703411
How ?

>>57703378
chinklet keys thus giving you shitty water resistance when compared with T420, X220 type keyboard

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>>57703378
I was using pic for a while, and that keyboard is awful. Maybe T430 has something better.
And I am very happy with keyboard on my T420.

>>57703425
by being a russian and having no money
dunno

http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1

I'm planning to install an Alienware M14X R2 HD+ screen on my T430, I read it's really good and I don't want to install the X1 Carbon's one because I don't want to do shit with extension cables (the Alienware's screen has the connector in the right place)
Has someone of you already done this?

I'm looking at getting an x220 and eventually upgrading it (16gb RAM + 850 Pro 512GB).

I really want the model with the i5 2540 and the nicer IPS display.

I found one on ebay that has all of that and comes with a good battery and an AC adapter. It looks like it's in really good condition.

The only thing is that it's 270 dollars.

I have seen some others for 100 dollars less that still have the 2540 and seem to be in decent condition, but I'm still waiting on replies about the panel type.

Assuming they all come with windows 7 (and I'm probably just going to install linux anyway)

is 270 way too expensive for what I would be getting?

Is $300 an ok price for a refurbished T420?

>>57704293
Specs: Core i5 2.50GHz, 8GB Memory, 128GB SSD

>>57704312
if A ware and 1600x900 then yes

>>57704328
It's 1600x900, but what's A ware?

>>57704357
good condition

>>57704391
Ah, it's from amazon so hopefully it'll be okay

My T430's charger port won't take the whole length of the male plug, is something wrong with it?

>>57704407
My refurb came in beautiful condition from Amazon, have faith.

Any of you try to run an eGPU setp on your thinkpads? I'm thinking of doing it for my w520 using the mobile express slot on the side if possible.

>>57704606
I mean the express card slot not mobile

Which modern Thinkpad has the best Linux compatibility?

>>57704293
>>57704312
$300? I got a 1600 x 900 500gb hdd i5 for 120 quid in pristine condition minus a sketchy battery (has like 4 hours battery despite the OS telling me its fucked) so that sounds a little pricey to me

>>57693747
Is this correct thread if I have to buy a brand new thinkpad?
The story is, on monday I'm applying for business startup dotation. Big part of business plan is listing of all hardware required to start a business. I want to spend around 2500 (usd equivalency) for laptop only.

I need help because I never even looked at stuff as expensive as this. I believe at this point it's more about avoiding one bad choice among 5 good ones rather than the opposite.

Around this price check I see options like W541, T550, T560... what do tpg?

Bad thing is - I have to state exactly the amount of money I need for it before I receive the money and then, if I do, I can't change the model for slightly cheaper or more expensive one.

just picked up an x230 from an ebay seller i recognized was just 10km away, 240€, claimed it to be IPS but i think it is TN, i5, 4GB RAM, SSD, perfect conditions except for the battery with a broken dent, i payed it 60€ less than he was asking first and it is a great price for where i live.
happy as fuck, this fucker looks great to use, and i like the keyboard too even if it's not the classic thinkpad keyboard

>>57704606
I do, see >>57702993

>>57704899
That's the t420 though. What I really was wondering was if by using an eGPU but connecting it through the express card slot in the w520 would it work well?

>>57703683
Yeah, was piss easy.

T430 i5-3320M
4 GB
500 GB HD

For R$600 ($175)

Should I buy it? This is the cheapest I could find here

>>57704976
Both have ExpressCard and connecting an eGPU via mpcie is fucking awful, ExpressCard is the best way for a **20 thinkpad.

I don't see why wouldn't it work really.

>>57705053
That express card slot you're talking about is the one on the side of the outside right? I've just finished installing one of those mSATA drives on the inside by taking out the keyboard and was worried that the only available slot to use an eGPU was taken up by that mSATA drive I just placed. I've also read somewhere that there's SEVERE bottle necking by using the express card slot.

I appreciate your help.

>>57705020
Yes, mine is the same except it was $150USD and I live in SoCal.
Go for it.

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>>57705141
>That express card slot you're talking about is the one on the side of the outside right?
Yep, makes it convenient because it's plug and play.
You could use the mpci-e slot too but it's messy as fuck since you'd have to open the laptop every time you want to plug the eGPU.

>I've just finished installing one of those mSATA drives on the inside by taking out the keyboard and was worried that the only available slot to use an eGPU was taken up by that mSATA drive I just placed
Nah as you can see in my reply earlier i also use an msata ssd + 2.5 ssd with the eGPU on.

>I've also read somewhere that there's SEVERE bottle necking by using the express card slot
This is another meme just like the "sata2 speeds aren't enough" one and the "QM processors are housefire" one.
There IS bottleneck but isn't severe, see pic related for a difference between expresscard gen1 and 2.
Also here >>57687138 is an old screenshot of mine with a 950, it's running on expresscard gen1 at pcie x1.

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Will my i7 thinkpad t410 still be there tomorrow if i keep it like this for like 20 hours?

>>57705314
I don't see why not, the CPU will throttle itself if it can't keep up with the temperatures.

>>57703378
The feel of typing is great. Feels clickier and less mushy than my T420 does. The keys are unironically not bad. They curve in just like regular-ass keys, which sets them apart from chiclets.

The thing people don't like is the layout, especially the Home/End/Insert/Delete zone and PgUp/PgDown/PrtSc being moved to the bottom of the keyboard

That being said, the X240 and up have lower travel distance for the keys than the other non-X models, so those keyboards do suck

>>57703683
Just make sure you're not ordering from lapscreen.com, because you don't get the exact panel but rather a 'compatible' one (meaning you're likely to get one just as bad as the stock T420 screen)

Ebay is the best place to look

>>57704703
I recently purchased one with the same specs for 160 USD: 1600x900, 8GB, i5-2540M, 320GB HDD, the only "bad" part is the battery (lasting only 3 to 4 hours) otherwise, it's in near-perfect condition. There's no need to spend over 200$ for a decent t420.

Someone explain why a T420/T430 is better than the e6420/e6430 besides muh trackpoint.

I'm looking for a new laptop to replace my old macbook for college. Maxed out t460s is my top choice right now, as I'm looking for a 14-15.6 inch. Price doesn't really matter to me. Any suggestions?

>>57706030
Keyboard on T420 slays everything before and since.

i have a t430s coming in soon

whats the best way to preserve battery?
can i remove the battery and plug in with the ac/charger while im home and mobility is not a use?
where can i get a good replacement battery (just in case)?

what distros are you guys running and do you have issues with keyboard shortcuts? fn only works with the volume on my asus.

>>57693747
Why X61 series havs no Libreboot/coreboot support?
Libreboot website says we can put x60 mobo in x61 case, but they don't explain why.

T420 for $180 decent?

>>57706030
i have both. the quality on the thinkpads are so much better.

I'm thinking of buying a thinkpad off ebay. Does it make sense to spend 50$ on a 1 year warranty for a 200$ t420? I have had squaretrade before for headphones and it was great, but I only needed it after 3 years.

Anyone's thinkpad off ebay needed a 3rd party warranty in the first year?

>>57707584
I never used any kind of warranty in my entire life so i'd say no.

>>57699034
>>57699159
>why so hostile
>little neckbeard dipshit
>dumb motherfucker
>arrogant dumbfuck
>2x "back to /b/" insult
Christ man, not only are you a hypocrite, you've really got nothing to add here.

>>57707584
how does it make sense to pay an additional 25% of the item's value on insurance for just one year

id say no, but im like the lad over here >>57707644


>>57707174
probably if the condition and specs are good

>>57700500
I don't own an x200 but I can ensure you that no Thinkpad is meant to be operating at temperatures approaching 100 degrees Celsius as a matter of routine. With a good cooling system they should be somewhere in the 70-80 range under sustained heavy load.

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>>57702167
Most likely. Chrome causes me to KP sometimes, but thats it.

Need help finding a ~300 laptop for college. Thoughts on this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430s-14-i7-3520M-2-9GHz-8GB-500GB-NVS-5200M-2355-2S8-/142190896029?hash=item211b3ce39d:g:tacAAOSwMVdYGKzv

>>57707150
Because Intel iME/AMT botnet

>>57708042
Quality post

>>57704847

Your money or what? Whats it going to be used for?

>>57708074
http://www.stallman.org/intel.html
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/intel-me-and-why-we-should-get-rid-of-me

Comparing today's /tpg/ with that of 3-5 years ago, is the T420 the new T60, and the X220 the new X60?

>>57702793
Oh, that's a relief.

>>57693791
Bump. Should Management Engine firmware updates be installed, or is it likely to make the suspected backdoor features even worse?

>>57702917
X240 with Ubuntu 16.04.1
>i5-4300U + (4+8)GB DDR3L 1600 MHz RAM
>Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
>6-cell + internal 3-cell batt

Got almost 20h batt life on idle.

Best X220T battery? Mine sticks out so I think it's a 9 cell, but it only lasts an hour or two. upower says I'm at about 75% capacity for the battery. I'm also looking into slice batteries. Which one do I want and are they affordable from anywhere? Probably want to get a better regular battery first, though.

>>57694815
>windows
what the h*ck
>on a ThinkPad
dude...

>>57698190
kind of weak reasoning, honestly. You can generally get pretty good info from the Arch wiki or the IRC channel for your distro. If you're really lucky you can find a more casual IRC with knowledgeable people but that isn't aimed at a particular distro. This way you can get some of the smart users of Arch/Gentoo but without having to use their distro.

>>57698793
It's honestly still pretty good. If you get it with the nvidia GPU it can even handle modded minecraft pretty well.

>>57708452

Yep.

I have a T42 and an X40 coming.

Excited to do some "last of the classic" Thinkpad, pre-Chinkpad computing.

I'm going to order an SSD for each of them, as well as the X4 Ultrabase and the Thinkpad Dock II. Any tips or tricks that I should know?

I know they're old, but they have the nicer keyboards still and are more than powerful enough for what I have in mind (amateur radio use).

So how do you deal with being cucked by ME/AMT on all Thinkpad models since the T61/X61?

>pick only those where it can be disabled somehow, such as the x200
>try to disable as much as (theoretically) possible via the BIOS/UEFI/MEBx
>not give a fuck at all, just succumb to the botnet

>>57711075
A mix of the last two i guess, using Windows 7 anyway because of my eGPU setup but disabled AMT in BIOS.

>>57711147
>disabled AMT in BIOS
You do realize that this only disables access to the Ctrl-P MEBx menu, but does not actually disable any of its "features" (quite to the contrary, resets them all to default, i.e. enabled)?

>>57707150
>but they don't explain why

But, they do.

https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel

Oh, and also

https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd

if that's of any comfort (I guess it isn't).

>>57711294
Actually no i didn't knew that, i thought it was disabled because the AMT popup after the POST slowing down the boot sequence disappeared.

Well i guess i'll keep being cucked by Jewtel.

>>57711580
Good post.

is the cooling of the nvs3100m in a t410 with thermal paste or thermal pad ?

>>57711580
Wtf. How did your post quote itself? You couldn't have known in advance what post number your post would have.

>>57711359
https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/intel-business-client-software-development/topic/563988

x220t or x230t?

I'm looking for a new laptop to do some programming, web browsing and watching porn. Nothing too crazy.

So I found this T420s for 320€. Should I go for it?
i7-2640M
4 GB DDR3
160 GB SSD

Seems pretty good for me, but just looking for some affirmation before I lock the deal in.

Im stuck between the i7 t430 and a macbook pro 13" mid 2012 with the same i7.
I plan on upgrading either to an ssd and 8gb of ram.

Any good reasons to get the thinkpad over the macbook?
Any drawbacks to using Windows 10 on a Macbook pro?

lads I cannot express how much I love my t420. This is the best tech purchase ive ever made, if anyone is lurkan this thread and trying to decide if they should buy one JUST FUCKING DO IT

>>57712604
Same. I still need to upgrade the screen, but even with 1366x768 it's the best laptop in my life.

>>57712630
I lucked out and got a 1600 x 900 one and it's pretty fucking sweet considering its TN

>>57712604
Could it work as a main computer? If one isn't planning on playing any videogames, of course.

>>57712482
>i7-2640M
>4 GB DDR3
>160 GB SSD
You will really want another 4GB of RAM and possibly caddy for HDD, the SSD is nice, but I would say it's not worth it for the price. for 200 sure, 250 tops. Not 300+.

>>57712604
I agree.

Running >>57702993 and the only thing left to make T420 my laptopfu is to flash coreboot, the 1080p mod if rmsmajestic releases it and add a 1080p IPS screen.

>>57712646
Of course, i use it as my main computer since i go outside a lot and even works for videogames with an eGPU setup.

>>57712270
Always go for the *20 models for their capability to take 3rd party batteries with a simple mod. Also I'd actually recommend going for a non-tablet version unless you really want to use the tablet fuctionality, because the tablets can't take 9 cell batteries and also weigh rather more.

>>57712646
get dock, 2 screens and you're golden, external keyboard optional

>>57712646
Yeah you can even get a docking station which allows you to just dock it (obviously) and have a pseudo desktop at your fingertips. Shit you can even plug in an extrnal gpu and play most games,

Make sure you get the 1600 x 900 screen though and get one in flawless condition because they really are a e s t h e t i c

What are some period accurate accessories for a Thinkpad 380ED?
I was thinking an IBM Spaceball serial mouse and maybe a Connetix Quickcam on the parallel and mouse port

leaving my vga port left for an old IBM LCD i have

i already have a single pcmcia to ethernet adapater (works great, i can shitpost at 12kbps)
so im thinking maybe another pcmcia card for something?

also, can i do anything cool with irDa by any chance?

>>57712693
2screen then you need NVIDAI GPU and then it runs HOT AS FUCK

What's the TLDR of T430 vs T420 ?
Besides being "one generation ahead", obviously.
I'm seeing same dock, same screen resolution, same dimensions, same RAM sticks.

>>57712714
The HD3000 can do dual screens so it can run two external monitors as long as your Thinkpad is docked with the lid closed.

>>57712748
see >>57701141

>>57712714
I'm talking keeping it closed in the dock and only using the external screens. Not 2 screen on top of laptop for total of 3 screens.

>>57712701
should also mention that you can upgrade it like a desktop (sorta), you can put 3 drives in it (msata and 2 ssd, 2hdd, 1 of each w/e), upgrade the cpu if its not t420s etc

>>57712750
I ment the DP will only run with NVIDIA thats why I never USE MY T420

RN i have a T410, and i love the keyboard.

how different are the keyboards on the 20 and 30?

>>57712807
20 is the same, 30 has a shit layout but different (not better or worse, it's subjective) feel.

>>57712675
Thing is, I live in Finland. And Thinkpads are pretty tough to find. Which again is telling me to go for it.

Some other available Thinkpads I found are:
X230 with i5-3320M, 4 GB DDR3 & 128 GB SSD for 270€.
T430 with i5-3330M, 4 GB DDR3 & 128 GB SSD for 300€
X220 with i5-2540M, 4 GB DDR3 & 128 GB SSD for 250€

I've heard alot of good things about T420, so I was drawn to the T420s the most, but maybe one of these is better for the price. X220 is a bit small for my taste, so maybe not that one though. What do you think?

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I ordered my T420 In 240 usd in saturday (sorry for ching chang language)

but it doesn't Proceeding deal
what fug
i have to shitton of stuff to do

>>57713096
>but it doesn't Proceeding deal
>what fug
kek
what fug indeed

>>57713134
>'proceed'

>>57713014
i am just having the same dilemma and i have chosen the 430 so far. It can only hold 7mm drives, which is a bummer, since i do have a spare disk at home which is 9.5 (420 can take those), but i am going to get an msata ssd anyways. 430 also has a better cpu (less power consumption and a bit faster) along with much improved gpu. the keyboard is worse than the 420 has, but i am planning to replace the 430 keyboard and flash the bios. you also get native usb 3.0. make sure you get the one with 1600x900 display, regardless of getting t430 or 20.

any thoughts on that?

>>57711359
Not sure what is more scary, all the abuse which it makes possible, or the fact that even here (!) literally nobody seems to give a fuck about it.

>>57700355
get an old toothbrush some isoproyl-a´lcohol or some kind of detergent and scrub it off!

>>57713271
Well, there's also the issue that to avoid the botnet you need to downgrade your hardware or break the workflow you're used to.

>>57713365
Somehow RMS is fine with the former, still using an X60 (according to his website, or maybe he upgraded to a librebooted x200 in the meantime).

>>57713439
He's on another level though, RMS doesn't even use GUIs.

>>57713459
https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html

> Mostly I use a text console, for convenience's sake. Most of my work is editing text and that is more efficient on a text console. On the text console, the touchpad can't cause me any trouble if I touch it by accident.
>I do use X11 for tasks that need a graphical interface. I have no preferred graphical environment or window manager. Since my interest in using graphical environments is small, I don't want to spend time comparing them.
>This is not an ethical issue, just my own personal preference

>>57713538
Well didn't remember that line.

Still, for most people downgrading to core 2 duos and installing linux isn't a viable solution so they just deal with the botnet.

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>>57699034
>if you don't have the answer then why bother wasting my time?
are you autistic? this is LITERALLY your answer. macbooks are undervoltaged shit CPUs, have a godlike screen, and are light and thin as fuck so pathetic weak hipsters like (you) can wear them.

get a macbook.

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Is a T420 with this ware worth $110?

>>57713686
Specs: 675GB, Intel Core i5 2nd Gen. 2.5GHz, 8GB

>>57713703
yes

>>57713686
Also only 1366x768

>>57705020
>T430
anon do you like chiclet keyboards?

>>57707726
Nobody cares, nigger.

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>>57713728
T430 doesn't need to have a shitlet keyboard.

>>57713686
yes, just change the touchpad sticker

>>57713749
>spending even more money on a dead 4 years old platform
jesus

Are you hype for January /tpg/?

>>57713783
No, it'll be a huge disappointment.

>>57713807
That's the spirit

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>>57713776
It's not dead yet, anon.

Specs:
>i7-3630qm, high revision one
>16GB DDR3L RAM
>Overclocked nvidia NVS 5400m dGPU with 2GB vRAM (28nm variant)
>Low-power SanDisk mSATA SSD mounted to the main 2,5" bay, resulting in better airflow
>Low-power WD10SPCX HDD in ultrabay
>Ericsson WWAN module
>3x3 MIMO WLAN module
>T420 keyboard
>Battery authentication patch. Laptop can accept any 3rd party battery
>Support for desktop 1050Ti GPU via PE4L v2.1b eGPU module
>9cell 94Wh battery. 9 hours of actual work with power saving features enabled (dGPU disabled, CPU turbo disabled, 0-20% screen brightness)
>1,5h of actual work during full CPU and GPU load, plus screen brightness set to 100% and spinning HDD.

Feels great. Actually want to sell this laptop and get a tablet instead. So far got an offer of $1100 for this full setup + 135W PSU and two 90W ones.

>>57713014
Finland would you be interested in an x230t?

>>57707726
ikr
what an asshole

>>57714089
What are the specs like?

>>57713961
>1600x900
>2016

>>57700475
I bought it second hand, but it seems pretty clean and mint condition so I assume there isn't much dust. Screenshot was when it was sitting on my blanket though.

>>57707856
I almost shit myself when I saw my thinkpad x220 hitting 90c after a did a cinebench r15 benchmark

I do believe that I should change the thermal paste because according to the ssd of this machine, this have been on for 10k hours and the keyboard is quite weared as well

But I should try using it with some distro to get some more info , how the hardware behaves

>>57714133
i5-3230m
8gb ram, one stick
120gb kingspec msata ssd (can't exactly remember the brand but it's one of the king*s)
93% worn 6 cell battery
There's a slight scratch on the screen, 1cm in length though

Really, I was just planning to go to Finland maybe december or jan, so I thought I might as well or something. Email me at [email protected]; let's take this off the thread.

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>>57713681
thank you anon for this great post

Like there is no laptop the size of 11" which would have any decent specs because that is the common size for tablets and netbooks. Due to their size, they can't pack any punch and yet this probably a unpatience hipster faggot wants something this absurd and even dares to dismiss two pretty close to his suggestion (X220 or 2570p) as "too big and not light or thin"

>>57713014
Senpai if you really are from finland then check this out
https://www.tori.fi/uusimaa/Lenovo_Thinkpad_x230__i5_3320__8Gt__128Gt_SSD__3G__32107402.htm?ca=18&w=3

In this link we have X230 with specs
>i5-3320m
>8GB ram
>128gb SSD
>price 280€
with backlight keyboard

Also I bought two computers from this guy :D

>>57713681
>macbook

>homOSeX OS
>no trackpoint
>not user-replacable battery
>no usb
>proprietary SSDs
>soldered RAM
no thanks

Is the X1 a good laptop for $260?

>>57714414
Which gen?

>>57714436
"128 GB SSD, Intel Core i5 4th Gen.2.2GHz, 4 GB"

>>57714329
Thanks man, that's nice.

>>57714506
np
If nothing else, I would highly recommend checking out those 2570p laptops as a alternative to X220 or X230.

It is quite similar with a few differences and has badass metal body

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCj7KKqyOSo

This video in particular totally sold me

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>>57693747

I have a T420 (i5-2520M) with BIOS v1.37.

I currently have 2x2 GB RAM.

I'd like to upgrade to 1x8GB (leaving the second slot unused, for a possible future 16 GB setup).

Will my BIOS support this?

>>57706492
Once it's fully charged and plugged in the battery won't degrade, but don't take my word on it, just for reference every 150 charges form 0 to 100% is 1 hour of battery lost, so you don't have much to worry about

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-T420-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B01DAHXU4C/ref=sr_1_8?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1480254448&sr=1-8&keywords=t420

what think boys?

>>57715245
i think you should stop being british

>>57715245
It sounds like a really bad deal to me.

>>57715245
rip off
you need 1600 x 900 res and that doesn't save if it has it for one
lurk ebay until you find a better deal
I've said it like 20 times now but I found a flawless one with 1600 x 900 res for 120 quid so lurk ebay m8 because the deals are there

>>57715325
alri lad x ty

>>57715325
*say if it has that res for one
soz haven't slept for god knows how long

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>>57693747
Guys, will this thing fit in my T430 next to the RAM slot?

>https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-120GB-mSATA3-Solid-Retail/dp/B00HT2RNSO/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480257368&sr=1-2&keywords=msata+ssd

>>57702038
>shit
No anon, it's cooler because of airflow.

>>57715757
yes
>evo
please don't buy this abomination

>>57715867
What? Why? Samsung SSD's are known to be the best. I've got a 2.5inch 850EVO for about a year and its working fine.

>>57715888
Evo are TLC drives. These wear three times faster than MLC ones (samsung pros)

>>57715898
But even then they have a 5year warranty and about 75TB write volume. That's plenty. I intend to use it exclusively as a linux drive. Most of my media will be on an HDD.

>>57715946
still, supporting samsung by buying their TLC drives is a genocide

>>57715962
Then suggest an msata thats good. I was going for 60gb but was told they're shit slow.

>>57715989
Intel 525/530
SanDisk X110 (this one is confirmed to be maximum confy on T430: >>57713961)
Also samsung 840/850 pro msata

>>57716013
All of those are way too expensive. I don't wanna spend so much on a drive that I'll use exclusively for linux. Add to that I live in a 3rd world shithole and have to pay an additional 20-30 bucks for shipment.

I guess I'll visit a local computer store and look for used SSD's.

>>57716078
X110 is expensive? Are you joking?
Where do you live? Here in Pooland I've paid $30 for a 128GB X110 one.

>>57716078
if money is a problem, visit /csg/ and get a comfy and cheap chink ssd.
And TLCs are absolutely fine for normal workloads.

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>>57716107
>And TLCs are absolutely fine
NO THEY'RE NOT YOU LYING NIGGER

>>57716078
Get a KingDian M280, as a fellow third worlder i understand your concerns and free worldwide shipping is one of the main reasons why i got it.

>>57716107 is right.

>>57716102
I checked amazon.
>https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Internal-Solid-State-SD6SF1M-128G-1022I/dp/B00HWHS5BK/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480259907&sr=1-5&keywords=sandisk+x110

>>57716107
I'll check it out. Do msata SSDs have issues that normal 2.5" ones don't have? Anything in particular I need to look out for?

Is this a rip off?
www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkPad-12-5-Inch-Laptop-Windows/dp/B00TFGYB32

>>57716161
Does this seem fine?
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KingDian-Factory-Direct-Quality-Assurance-MSATA3-internal-SSD-Hard-Drive-Solid-State-Disk-496-382-MB/32620817893.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_116_10065_117_10068_114_115_113_10000007_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_9993_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_10073_10097_10100_10096_10070_10052_10050_424_10051,searchweb201603_6&btsid=76757baa-0f23-43a0-b49b-d01f3139a60e

>>57716222
>1366x768
shiggy

Don't buy brand new thinkpads.

>>57716274
What about this then?
www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Professional-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B0114TT2BI
Still on amazon but refurbished

>>57716166
here's new 256GB for $65
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-X110-mSATA-256GB-05WVC6-SD6SF1M-256G-1012-NEW-/232133613105?hash=item360c3dd631:g:pAcAAOSwB09YHJ~B

>amazon
found your problem

>>57716233
Yeah, i went with the 240gb version though since it's only extra $20 and 120gb seems somewhat low.

aliexpress.com/item/32620853134/32620853134.html

>>57716293
Better, but I'm not certain about prices in the UK. Try local ads like craigslist etc so you can bargain a bit.

I got my T430 for about the same price as the T420 you linked, in a 3rd world shithole.

>>57716309
That'll come to around $85 for me. I think I'll go with the chinkshit 120gig.

>>57716311
I'll only have a linux installation on it. I already have a 250gb EVO and 500gb HDD in my T430. I was going for a 30-60gb SSD but they're apparently a lot slower.

>>57716311
I want 1600x900 panel for my T420, can you or someone else show me it on aliexpress? There are so many of them.

>>57716439
I upgraded my T420 from 768p to 900p with this exact display so i can guarantee it works, you need to ask the seller for an Innolux N140FGE-LA2 display.

http://s.aliexpress.com/uMZbYBzy

You'll need the HD+ cable too.

>>57716412
thanks, I'll go and check. I've been finding it hard to find good thinkpads cheap in the UK

>>57716412
why not use 40GB of your 250GB SSD?
You'd save money

>>57716512
>>57716412
Plus you should keep in mind the mSATA port in T430 is limited to 3Gbps instead of 6Gbps.

Hi guys, can you tell me if €100 for a secondhand r61 Lenovo ThinkPad is a good price?
I currently have a MacBook air but need to run windows natively to use catia (it doesn't work on VMs or via wine), so ive been looking for a cheap windows laptop and have just stumbled upon this deal
It has 1gb of ram and a 126gb hdd, but afaik ThinkPads are easily upgraded right?
I wouldn't have problems swapping the ram or prccesor would I?

how do you ips on t430?

>>57716528
Zero difference in real world usage anyway, except in very special cases such as transferring large files over two sata3 ssds.

>>57714587
420 has a hardware limit of 8G afaik

>>57714587
Upgrade to this modded BIOS >>57701854 and you can use up to 16GB DDR3L 1866 Mhz ram.

>>57702441
bump

>>57716811
Bump limit reached

>>57716691
But everyone here seems to believe that it can support 16 GB easily.

>>57716991
It does but the frequency gets capped to 1333mhz, do this
>>57716761

>>57708108
Goverment money - i have to spent what they give or they take it back so I can go full endgame.
Programming. So far I was working with employers hardware so I wasn't interested in high-end stuff at all.
I was aiming for something second hand for 500$.

>>57717019
I was aiming with 500$ for personal use.
Now I have the limit of 2500$

>>57693747
Is anything in the current ThinkPad lineup worth buying? I'm looking specifically at the T460, T560, or X260.

Would be used primarily for working from home (Excel, Adobe, online databases etc.) and possibly some light gaming (Skyrim, TF2, WoW etc.)

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>>57717463

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>>57717420
get t420 fuck boiii