/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>57717463
Reposting my comment from the last thread before we got moved here :)

Is anything in the current ThinkPad lineup worth buying? I'm looking specifically at the T460, T560, or X260.

Would be used primarily for working from home (Excel, Adobe, online databases etc.) and possibly some light gaming (Skyrim, TF2, WoW etc.)

>>57717495
None of those laptops have a decent GPU.

>>57717524
Ah, so it would be better relegated to work purposes only then I suppose?

>>57717540
Well, you can game on them, but only the older titles ... Torchlight 2 etc.

i have a t430s coming in soon

whats the best way to preserve battery?
can i remove the battery and plug in with the ac/charger while im home and mobility is not a use?
where can i get a good replacement battery (just in case)?

>>57717642
set charge thresholds (tlp in linux, lenovo settings in windows)

don't go below 20%

Is it worth to upgrade the panel on my T430 from 1366x768 to 1600x900 non ips? Is it worth 50€?

>>57717656
googling now but not 100% sure what you mean by this

using ubuntu 16.04 btw

>>57717776
http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html#chargethresholds

>>57717775
Yes, the quality stays shit but the higher resolution is worth it.

Or you could join me and keep waiting forever for RMSmajestic's FHD mod.

>>57717776
install tlp and set the charge threshold to 50% low and 80% max

Anyone here program on a 12.5" screen? Is it bearable as I'm thinking of getting an x250

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>>57717463
Glorious.

Is it ever worth getting a 1366x768 top instead of holding out for a 1600x900, like let's say its a refurbished t420 for 100 quid or so, low specs but p. good condition but 1366x768 would it be worth?

>>57717960
1366x768 is unusable
Pay extra to get 1600x900

>>57717960
Add the price of the 1600x900 screen and the HD+ cable to the 1366x768 t420 price and then compare it with a 1600x900 t420.

>>57717941
Which guide for mounting the old keyboard did you follow?

>>57718008
>>57717978
Tyvm lads all advice that was taken onboard

>>57718028
The one that doesn't involve replacing the palmrest.
Also a note: T420 palmrest is NOT compatible with T430. There is only one way to mount this keyboard.

>>57718077
soooo ... cutting the pins or whatever?

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>>57718099
Sanding off couple of rubs.

good morning fellow thinkgents. time to make the backlights!

Is $24 for 4G RAM for my T430 a good deal?

major normie here

are lenovo shittier models good enough for my parents? all they do is browse fb and watch youtube. i cant afford thinkpads (yeah, third world country)

what kind of so-dimm is used in T430? is it the 204pin?

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Reposting from previous thread.
For about 2500$ which one should I chose?

In my local store for about that price I can find:

1) W541 i7-4810MQ / 8GB ram DDR3 1600 / 256SSD / 7Pro64 / Intel HD Graphics 4600

2) P50 i7-6820HQ /8GB ram DDR4 2133 / 256SSD / 7Pro64 / NVIDIA Quadro M2000M

3) X1 Carbon 4 i7-6600U / 16GB / 512SSD / 7Pro64 / Intel HD Graphics 520

4) T460s i7-6600U / 12GB DDR4 2133 / 256SSD / 7Pro64 / Intel HD Graphics 520

5) T560 i7-6600U / 16GB DDR3 1600 / 512SSD / Win10P / Intel HD Graphics 520

Last time I had to buy a notebook was 6 years ago... My knowledge is limited.
All 5 listed above are similar in price, W541 being the most expensive while having only 8GB ram, are other parameters so much better?

Trick is - goverment is paying so I can overpay for even slight quality increase. Anything I don't spend is wasted.

I'll be using it for programming, mostly embedded (yea I know) C and C++, but hey I won't refuse some good vidya, however, durabilty > all for me.

Please help guys.

>>57719292
p50

>>57716512
>>57716528
Cause I installed Ubuntu on it before and fucked up the windows bootloader and had to reinstall it. I'd rather just have the 2 on separate drives.

>>57719292
get second handed boi

This way you can get a way a lot cheaper

>>57719345
What the fuck nigger.
You don't reinstall windows after fucking up the bootloader. You either install bootloader manually via linux or via windows installation disk

I have an x60 I just through a turbo on and a new body kit

>>57719292
After I've seen it live through falling down a flight of stairs (together with clumsy owner), I gotta vouch for Carbon.

>>57719438
ok

>>57719397
I know, but a windows live usb wasn't able to fix the bootloader for whatever reason. It detected the win10 installation but wasn't able to fix it.

I also fucked up by trying linux at the worst possible time; I was doing an internship in a different city and there were no other windows pcs I could use to make a live usb and I had to submit my report in a weeks time. All that shit stacked up and I decided to reinstall windows. Thankfully, most of my media was saved on the HDD, so at least I didn't lose that.

Is there a way to clean a T420's fan without removing the heatsink from the CPU ?

>>57719392
I would if it was my money. I can't buy second handed using business dotation funds. I'd also have lots of time if I was paying myself, but I have to spend money fast and precise..

>>57719480
It looks rather squishy, doesn't look like typical, square, hammered bussiness machine to me.

>>57719502
my charger broke for it. Battery doesnt hold a charge. Runs fast and still good shape. running xubuntu on it just to web surf.

I cant wait til I can afford to get it running again. so poor though.

using my raspberry pi 3 right now!!!

>>57719292
I'd pick the P50.

>>57719537
I think you might be able to blow off the dust if you have a powerful blower by removing the keyboard. The fan is visible from there.

>>57719558
THIS

It can TAKE DAMAGE, but doesnt feel like the quality durable machine WHILE IN USE!

my brother ended his last marriage over the x1 carbon or t420 debate.

>>57719558
>It looks rather squishy,
Well, it doesn't have the mass to beat hobo with like the older types did, but apparently it does have the same durability still. something about construction material and technology.

>>57719537

Spray wd40 in a bowl and add a few tablespoons of WARM WATER to the wd40 to dillute and not damage the computer.

Take a rag and dip in this solution

Take the rag and wipe down keyboard.

Press f4 on the fan startup and overclocking menu

Remove heatsink

Take the wd40 spray fan

Take the rag and wipe down again

Put fat back

done

Im an aero eng. studente needing a laptop for cad works. Is the yoga p40 worth its price, or i can get something better? Also the 8Gb ram pisses me of, is upgreadable to 16?

>>57719650
>>57719650
upgradeable using custom bios 4.30 by alexa taylor

my yoga p41x has 32gb of ram running debian linux and kali linux and ubuntu and fedora

>>57718077
Two ways.

Instead of filing down the nubs, I just cut the slots in the T420 palmrest taller with an exacto knife.

Easier and safer, I think

>>57719615
>my brother ended his last marriage over the x1 carbon or t420 debate.
Where do I find a wife this passionate about laptops??

>>57719681
they sell aftermarket body kits dude ur a straight up idiot and a fool

I have all dell boards and components in my t60, people see it and think IBM, its really so custom running dell under the hood. I shit on people for assuming its IBM. Such a sleeper ya know.

>>57719650
>tfw no regular-ass non-yoga P40

>>57719558
Take the T460 because of the battery life

DO NOT GET THOSE WITH DISCRETE GPU
It will not improve the reliability because the more components you get, the more likely you will have a broken component

>>57719709
She looks more like a man than he does. 260 pounds short hair. Shes cool but so gross.

>>57719636
I'm not neglecting it's quality. I'm just shifting towards what >>57719615 said.

Anyway, I'll appreciate all advices as last time when I considered buying a thinkpad I was looking for some 300$ 2 year old machines...

Everything at this price range is so good I have no idea what to chose. So far looks like P50 has the most votes.

>>57719727
ur an idiot and a straight fool

I have an x60 that I have plans to upgrade and make more powerful than anything u own u fucking nerd loser

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>>57719751
not an argument :^)

>>57719774
oh so you think you can shit talk and get away with it hombre? U know im clocking an extra Ghz on ur ASS always BITCH step aside

>>57719744
I advised a P50 above but what >>57719727 says makes sense. Don't buy what you dont need. Gaming on laptops not built for it isn't advisable, except for old, non-demanding games.

Or just get a gaming laptop for that price.

>>57719727
Retard.
This is 2016, problem with discrete gpus desoldering themselves was happening like 10 years ago.
Also get P50. Don't listen to these fools.

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>>57719774
I fukked ur mom

>>57719836
Thats what im saying hes a straight idiot Im about to throw hands to this nigga thinking he can argue that

>>57719721
I find the flipping book meme actually useful if i want to shitposter on my bed

>>57719836
Good point
But I do hope that I'm wrong and history won't repeat its self

But why would he even need dGPU if he is only programming and not doing any 3d modeling or video editing?

>>57719814
Nah I just mentioned gaming as a silly excuse for spending so much on notebook while using it mostly for avr programming... HOWEVER, my gf likes to edit some videos for her articles from time to time so that is something that can be actually usefull here.
At this point I have a boner for thinkpad so I won't change that.

>Don't but what you dont need.
That's exactly the point of spending dotation money.. Together with notebook I'll buy printer, monitors, tablets, smartphone, ebook reader, drives, keyboard, chair, desk and many other more and less usefull stuff, but this notebook is the only thing I'll really use so I want to do it good with your help guys.

>>57719890
DO YOU THINK HE DOESNT HAVE ANY KIDS OR FAMILY OR WIFZES THAT WANT TO PLAY GAMES OR WATCH VIDEOS ON HIS LAPTOP YOU ARE A COMPLETE AND UDDER FOOL NIGGA STOP SPEAKING IM ABOUT TO RAIN THUNDA DOWN UR ASSCOCK

>>57719890
Gaymuring. OP clearly stated he wants to gaym from time to time

>>57719926
isn't Intel's iGPU 520 enough?

On a second thought, that P50 might be a good solution because you can get 64gb ram on that and probably another drive in that drivebay

>>57719956
P50 can be expanded with newer CPU (Xeon), more RAM (up to 64GB ECC, only model supporting ECC btw)
It's just the best option from all of these

>>57719956
Wait a minute
There is two M.2 ssd slot and 2,5" drive slot?
>>57719987
You can change the cpu? It isn't soldered?
Holy fuck, this might be it boys

>>57719956
Ease pf future upgrade options is a huge positive in that case. I don't tend to buy new stuff every year.
Good point.

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I'm posting from my bed using the raspi 3 hooked up to my 50 inch wall mounted samsung led tv

>>57720001
No, it's not.
Also intel 520 is shit. Only desktop iGPUs are remotely usable.

>>57719899
Some of the other anons have made good points about dGPUs not being shit anymore. I was only advising against it because my inspiron died after a GPU fault and it was my first laptop. Now I'm on my 3rd which is a t430 and 2nd was a t420, so I don't have much experience with dGPUs. Bang for buck, P50 seems the best, no doubt. If you keep an eye on the temperatures during heavy loads, you should be fine.

The ThinkPad meme is really a good one.

>printer, monitors, tablets, smartphone, ebook reader, drives, keyboard, chair, desk
The hell kinda job is it?

>>57719711
I tried one and it didn't fit right, leaving a seam and a sharp edge on the front.

It also means you don't have to spend more money.

Drop your false superiority attitude.

>>57719711
I'm calling bullshit. How do you get ports to line up?

Pics or it didn't happen.

>>57720022
according to wikipedia
you can get about 500 GFLOPS out of Intel's 520

>>57720044
Ur a nerd loser I'll ddos and doxx your ass hombre

>>57719867
Don't get me wrong Yogas are cool, it just makes it more expensive

>>57720057
Ur a bigger idiot I'm in bed right now I just posted a picture from my bed u idiot. When I get up in a few minutes I'll take pics

I'm gonna vape for a few minutes first damnit u idiot nerd loser

>>57719582
Did that, I'll see if that helps with the noise and temps.
Also, which thermal paste should I get for it ? I'll have to do a full clean up eventually

>>57719648
cleaning a thinkpad with WD40? What the fuck?

>>57720031
>The hell kinda job is it?
I'm just changing my work mode from a company employee to a company contractor.
By starting my own business I can apply for startup dotation (around 5000$). The "only" requirement is 40 pages long business plan and explanation of all expenditures.
I can include all this stuff as necessary while running a software development company, it's just a matter of interpretation.


Anyway while we decided that P50 is the way to go guys, I see I can make simple configuration changes to it.
I can't go with Xeon as that would totally exceed my limit.
But for the same price I can swap i7-6820 with i7-6700 in favor of 512SSD (instead of 256) and 64GB rams (instead of 8).

Do you think its a better option?

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>>57719615
>my brother ended his last marriage over the x1 carbon or t420 debate.

>>57720179
I do think that was an good plan

Because you have two M.2 ssd slots, you can add more memory later. Or use that 2.5" slot to add a HDD for more cheap storage

>>57720229
So you opt for leaving it with i7-6820?

>>57718596
Both my parents are using cheapest lenovo laptops, it just werks. Make sure you have enough RAM, though.

>>57720283
Yeah because it is such a small difference
If you go and check the ark pages for each of those cpu, you can find little to nothing difference

tl;dr too small of difference, hard to say anything about it

>>57720061
it still has nothing to do with gaymur experience

>>57720340
Ok but for that small diference I can go
6820 | 8Gb ram | 256 SSD
or
6700 | 64Gb ram | 512 ssd (or 256SSD + 1TB HDD)

If difference of cpus is negligible then it looks like second option is more viable isn't it?

>>57720214
I know I'm funny

totally new to thinkpads but i need a good one, mainly for Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator... i usually open hundreds of RAW Files to process them...
and sometimes i play LoL too....

found a t530 2nd hand
>i5 -3210M 2.50GHz
>NVIDIA NVS 5400M
>300gb HDD
>4Gb ddr3
>windows 7
Price : 200€

Also how many " hours left " should a decent Battery show when it's like 99% ?

>>57720435
5400m is 1 or 2gb?

>>57720448
sorry it doesnt show...but i will msg the seller and ask

>>57720352
dude
You can totally play with that amount of GFLOPS, but you have to settle with older titles

But of course I do understand your concerns
Dauym I didn't that M2000 can get up to 1812.5 of GFLOPS. That is quite near or a bit lower to GTX 1050 Ti (1981GFLOPS)
t.Intel 4400 totally fine with S.T.AL.K.E.R: Lost alpha

>>57720382
I think the cpu is already top notch so you don't have to worry about it
I mean i7-6700 gets 675cb in cinebench R15 while my i7-3770k gets about 777, so its quite near

That storage looks pretty good , because 256gb for os and other software and rest of bigger files to the HDD, is quite golden desu

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Look what I found at the thrift store.
Had to give it a shower, scrub off the chalk and cut some frayed edges. In the end it cleaned up pretty well, and the air cushions are still fully intact.

>$10
>IBM

>>57720448
iam guessing it's 1GB ?
so is this >>57720435 a good purchase ?

>>57720553
yes
although it could be 2gb

Is a T420 for $110 and one hour battery capacity a good deal? No other information is given in the listing.

>>57720584
That price is pretty good, but you need more info. Make sure its not banged up or anything too.

Is a thinkpad good for an accounting major?

>>57720684
Dunno. What do you mostly use? If its like word processing/excel shit, yeah. ThinkPad keyboards are top notch.

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so a while back I got my hands on an X60 thinkpad for free. It has a centrino core duo generation CPU, win7, rotatable screen, a stylus with the right click button, a fingerprint reader, a docking base, external pci card slot, all those goodies and such. I played around with it for a while before the fan went bad and it wouldnt boot. So I ordered a new fan and swapped it out. Unfourtunatly, the person lied when they said the fan fit both X60 AND X61 models. Anyway, I plan on getting the correct fan, but I really am starting to like the idea of having all these do-dads in my laptop, but I already have a really nice inspiron and a top of the line thinkpad is not in my budget. What I want to know is if there has been anything they have made that might be avaliable for cheap, but still able to run reasonably well after recompiling the OS and stuff. It would have to have a stylus capable screen, not just for fingers. I despise touch-screens. I dont like greasing up my machines. A stylus is great though, especially if it has the little right click button like pic related.

Also, do built-in finger print readers generally have any support on linux mint or other distros?

TLDR: Is there a modern version of the thinkpad X60 available? I dont want top of the line, just better than core duo era speed. any recommendations?

>>57720483
>I think the cpu is already top notch so you don't have to worry about it
>I mean i7-6700 gets 675cb in cinebench R15 while my i7-3770k gets about 777, so its quite near
>That storage looks pretty good , because 256gb for os and other software and rest of bigger files to the HDD, is quite golden desu

Yeah I'm checking the benchmarks now. I will not realise the difference between CPU's but for sure I will enjoy more storage. Plus max ram already and I can change to xeon somewhere in the future.

Thanks you mate, and all other anons that joined the discussion.

I'll come back when everything works out. (It can take month or two because of beaurocracy, even if I have to deliver entire specification tommorow)

whats the most based thinkpad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDmCmmvIA8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF2j7V2ImTg

>>57720747
64gigs of RAM is overkill I think. See if you can trade that for some other upgrades. Maybe a dock.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834321418&ignorebbr=1

Is this an okay thinkpad to get for my grandma?

I'm considering buying a T430, but first I'd like to know how it handles vidya.

>>57720498
Nice, i got this backpack >>57702395 for $15

>>57720881
It doesn't handle games
That is why you get eGPU setup for
Google "EXP GDC" and you'll find out

The magic here is that you can connect an external gpu to your laptop via Express card slot

>>57720881
What are you looking to play? You can do a ton of 2D gaming and some basic 3D stuff up to League and older games but you wanna follow
>>57720925
's advice.

>>57720796
Nah I can only configure the insides, no extras included.
I can reduce it to 32Gigs and increase the storage (512sdd + 2tb hdd) or go for the ssd speed and take 512 PCIE NVME SSd (read 2150 Mb/s write 1550 Mb/s)

I honestly don't know which option is better.
1) 64Gb ram, 256 M.2 SSD + 1Tb HDD
2) 32Gb ram, 512 M.2 SSD + 2Tb HDD
3) 32Gb ram, 512 PCIE NVME SSD

>>57720864
too expensive to get for a older woman unless she is converting videos and streaming cs:go.

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>>57717463
Apparently, there is no libreboot and coreboot bioses for GM965 and PM965 chipsets, therefore no support for X61 and T61 models.
Does anyone knows wny? Libreboot FAQ and coreboot wiki has no answers to this. Why did they make a libreboot for X200 and skipped the previous generation with obviously older and easily crackable version of ME?
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>57720925
Does that really work? I would think you would not be able to get enough bandwidth to have it really work. Same thing with building a monster desktop and then just using a remote desktop connection to play games on it using a midgrade laptop anywere.

What's the best ThinkPad I should get for classic DOS and Windows games? I have an A22m and R51, but the processors are a bit too new.

>>57720988
2 seems best. SSD speeds wont matter at that level. Extra HDD space is always useful.

>>57721045
>you would not be able to get enough bandwidth to have it really work.

The real truth here is that your cpu will start to bottleneck before the bandwidth becomes a problem
But you'll probably have look for more info on that.

>>57721045
Go back to the previous thread and Ctrl+F "eGPU"

it was discussed a lot along with the bandwidth meme

>>57717876
i am doing some light web dev on x250 with low res screen. it is okay nothing special
i use webstorm/fedora

best thresholds for a t420s battery? I've recalibrated and acpi -V is showing 93% capacity at full. basic webbrowsing is only getting me 3 hours tops.

>>57721002
good point. does https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-1366x768-i3-5005U-Professional/dp/B01HEFX92E seem like a decent enough buy? i mainly want something that won't break and feels relatively nice to use.

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ThinkPad Laptop X220

Intel Core i5 2520M (2.50 GHz)
4 GB Memory
320 GB HDD
Intel HD Graphics 3000
Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit

Microsoft authorized refurbished

$219.99 (Original Price: $399.99)

Is this a good deal? The guide says that a used X220 should be bought at about $220. This one is that price, but it's usually $400. That's what I'm curious about. If they're usually $220 at most, what makes this one $400? That's a pretty good deal in that case, but I call bullshit on it.

>>57721058
T42 or older, X40 or older.

Anything newer's a Chinkpad and not worth bothering with.

>>57721305
I have a X220 with same exact specs for about $150.
I'd say keep looking.

>>57721305
>what makes this one $400?
The "Microsoft authorized refurbished", so you're paying an extra because Pajeet swapped a hard drive.

Which distro should I run on a thinkpad t30, with 512 Mb RAM and pentium 4?

>>57721305
>Microsoft™ authorized refurbished

I payed 139.99 for mine with the same specs.

Plan to get this for cyber monday, good deal?

Lenovo E570 15.6" Laptop: i7-7500U, 16GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, GTX 950M, Win 10 $510

>>57721075
True. Thanks

>>57721513
>950M
>U

>>57721513
No

Just ordered an x220t this morning and need a sleeve to put it in for carrying it around in my bag. What is a good one to get from amazon or something so it can arrive quick?

>>57721948
13 inch 2-sided sleeve. Some chinks even put a thinkpad logo on it.

>>57722064
>2-sided
What did he mean by this?

If I buy a 9 cell 70++ battery for my T420 will I need to buy a new charger?

>Latitude E5470
>1080p IPS
>i5-6300u
>8gb ram
>128gb ssd
>500 eurobux

should I? I could also get an i5-6440hq for about 100€ more, but I don't know if I want to sacrifice the battery life

>>57722331
no

>>57722444
thanks

>>57717656
>dont' go below 20%
>don't go above 80%

That's like, reducing the battery's effective capacity to 60% of its nominal capacity. Will you get these 40% back in prolonged cell life to even make up for it?

>>57717858
>use only 30% of the battery's capacity
>the battery will die anyway after a similar amount of recharge cycles within that range

Sounds like a great plan.

>>57717978
>1366x768 is unusable
Because of what exactly? How about 1280x800?

>>57718179
Mods involving sanding off stuff are a bit on the shoehorning side, don't you think?

>>57718596
>lenovo shittier models
Enjoy your Superfish (in addition to all the other botnets such as ME/AMT, UEFI, Secure Boot, and Windows 10 of course).

>>57721948
gracious anon, where can I order this?

anything Canada-specific?

>>57717495
I've got an X260. Nice portable with mindblowing battery life if you spring for the biggest external battery. But for gaming? No sir

>>57717876
Yeah as long as it's fulll hd

>>57717941
>>using windows 10

>>57718575
atleast in swedistan money it is

A good website to see memory modules compatible with X260?

>>57720015
>>not posting from your super quiet x260 in bed

>>57717775
You need a 900p LCD cable or it won't work.
Nab an Alienware m14x screen for it too.

>>57718596
All u need is 4GB ram and an SSD nowadays.

>>57719480
Story?

>>57721305
I need to update the guide but ivy bridge laptops have plummeted to $150 to $180 mark.

For that price I'd expect an OEM battery and AC adapter

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What can i do with this thing?

I asked a couple of threads ago if i could replace the cells and someone replied that it's not possible.

tl;dr Bought a genuine Lenovo 55++ battery that gets detected by the OS but doesn't charge, got a full refund and managed to keep the battery.

>>57721058
Check out the ThinkPad Forums, here's some old machines.
You're likely to pay pretty penny for these to be in great or confirmed working shape. You can get 3xx series and some 7xx series seem to be had for under $60.

I think the Cs models have the terrible slow DTSN displays.

If you can, the 755 has a nice chompy keyboard to type with. I didn't care for the innovative 701C keyboard but there are alot of others who are fans.

The plan is to get my 600X and 770X up and running to be my 'retro' machines.
S30 needs Win2K because it crashes whenever I use Bohdi linux on the internets.

>>57720745
There is no 4:3 panel Tablet anymore, unless you buy a toughbook or get some sort of iPad keyboard case.

An X230 comes with USB 3.0 standard and an ivy bridge
X220 doesn't but you can add it with an express card, yet the i7 version of the X220 has USB 3.0, well for one slot

>>57720498
I still have two of them after 3 years.
Such a deal for $30 ea shipped.

>>57723147
even phones have bigger resolution screens.

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Noob question here
I got a 4gb stick of ram to add on to the 4gb already in my x220
Of course I'm an idiot and didn't notice that the existing ram was two sets of 2gb, taking up both slots
So when I put my new 4gb stick in one slot, and leave in one of the old sticks, the computer seems to run strange/sluggish
But just the one 4gb and I think it's fine.
I'm ordering another 4gb stick but anyone know why this happened?

First ThinkPad is gonna be delivered sometime next week, supplied-by-company T430 with 1600x900 reso, SSD, 8GB RAM, that got bought up in a big lot and checked out. Was wondering if going the aliexpress or gearbest/dx/... Route was reliable for stuff like a new 9-cell battery to replace the 6-cell one it comes with, possibly for a T420 keyboard replacement for it if I mind the new keyboard, et cetera.

So, trust /csg/ sources for /tpg/ parts, or shop local?

Anything I should check immediately when the T430 gets here?

>>57725323

Just realized some unclear wording - it's not a laptop provided to me for the company I work for, it's a used laptop from a buy-up after a company got a line of new models or somesuch.

>>57725175
maybe because they run in single channel when they're different size

>>57725323
I went full /csg/ for my T420 in msata ssd, 2.5" ssd, 9-cell battery, keyboard, screen and eGPU adapter.

No regrets.

>>57720864

Only if your grandma is Shirley Curry. Otherwise it's a bit much.

>>57725359

How long've you had the parts? Is the battery genuine, fake but trying to look genuine, or plain unbranded/different brand? The battery is the main thing to me, but eGPU might be an option down the line, I still have my last desktop GPU.

SSD is already in, already have chink optical bay to 2.5" HDD adapter with a 750 GB drive in it.

>>57725574
Since April or around that, battery since August.

It's fake trying to look genuine, lacks the Lenovo logo and none of the serial numbers match with what Power Manager displays but delivers just like a genuine one from what I've seen (~6h with normal usage, ~9h idling) so i guess they just slapped brand new cells and flashed a generic firmware in a generic 55++ battery case and called it a day.

It was $50 and no one but the chinks do free worldwide shipping so it was my only option.

>>57717463
Anyone know how to fix screen tearing on t420 running arch?
I'm pretty sure xfce4 is causing it but I can't tell what exactly is, cant figure out how to config compton either.

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Welcome to my thinkpad rape dungeon
Today you have the G40 being used to download DESI-III onto a 3.5" floppy to transfer it to the 380ED for installation

I have no idea how to install dos programs

>>57727699
STOP IT, MADMAN

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Got a X201T with speakers that will cut out sporadically. I am running Mint, but I think Windows did it also. Any ideas?

>>57720745
>Unfourtunatly, the person lied when they said the fan fit both X60 AND X61 models
It does. The X60/X61 take the same fan.
The X60s/X60T/X61s/X61T take a different fan though (that fits all four of those models).

>>57717463
What could I do to make a T420 have enough power to run a game like WoW at 60fps on low-mid settings while still maintaining a good battery life?

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Who else /hackintoshdegenerate/ here?
Its rather comfy and works well.

>>57717463
Windows 10 or Windows 7 for my new X220? I can get both for free.

>>57728108
on t420?

Poll

strawpoll.me/11751033

>>57728120
7

>>57728120
install gentoo

>>57728128
Yep.

>>57728150
Pretty sweet. Is it lighter than arch?
My t420 is literally just a music and browser machine so I want it as light as possible yet stil aesthetic.
Anyway for me to dual boot them both just for fun?

>>57728174
>is it lighter than arch
unless you installed loads of bloat, how is that even theoretically possible
pretty sure that you can't make a sub-1GB install of OSX

>>57728108
Which WLAN card do i need? i remember that the stock Intel one doesn't work or something like that.

Also
>When using external headphones or speakers, may need to plug and unplug 1 or 2 times for recognition.
Is this true?

>>57728174
>light
no

insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/
I have it on my ultrabay drive and linux on the mSATA SSD and use the BIOS disc select menu.

>>57728231
I have a USB one because lazy. I have to switch the outputs by control clicking the icon in the menu bar.

>>57728196
>>57728265
I'm new obviously soz
>I have it on my ultrabay drive and linux on the mSATA SSD and use the BIOS disc select menu.
Does installing an msata on t420 compromise anything else?

>>57728381
No. You cant have WWAN, but who the fuck needs that.

>>57728381
WWAN

But in 2016 you can get 4G via tethering from your phone so it doesn't matter.

or get an expresscard wwan adapter

>>57728393
>>57728403
Cool thanks
So for max efficency a tiny msata ssd with arch and 2 ssd's + 8gb ram would be the best setup?

>>57728418
yes

or msata + two HDDs if you'd rather have storage instead of speed

>>57728436
I would rather have storage tbqh, is there a max limit on how much memory I can have?

I suppose 2 1tb HDD would be more than enough right?

>>57728450
>how much memory I can have
2x8gb (16gb) ram at 1333mhz max, you can unlock 1600mhz and 1866mhz with a custom BIOS.

>I suppose 2 1tb HDD would be more than enough right?
Entirely subjective according to your needs.

>>57721305
payed about that much for i7 with ips

ok /g/

im considering buying a T420 for general use (not gaymen) in the future. what do i need to know? i dont know anything about tricking out a laptop much less a thinkpad, but i understand that there are upgrades for these laptops that you can do. what would these be? im not terribly hardware proficient; the extent of my knowledge concerning component installation and replacement is the mobo, gpu, and psu on my desktop on an as-needed basis.

sorry for my grammatical errors and reddit spacing, im phoneposting from my bed

>>57728478
Aight lad thanks for the help, last question though. What msata should I get and should I just get a 60gb one?

I think i'll install arch on it then make a small windows partition incase I need it for werk

>>57728533
first of all, you don't even really need to replace any parts in most thinkpads that are out there; most of them are alright

most of the time, people replace/add SSDs or new HDDs, RAM, screens (last one mostly just to replace the TN panel or 1366x768), and in some very rare cases, the CPU

if you don't know how to do those upgrades, either find a guide somewhere online or go to some local store and they'll do it for you
if you're just not sure about where they go and such, just look at the manual for your model (in your case, T420) although it's pretty intuitive, there are even marking on the bottom

>>57728569
>What msata should I get and should I just get a 60gb one?
Whatever you can afford and has the best price/performance benchmarks, everything is the same shit don't fall for the memes or the samshills.

I'd say avoid <120gb ssds because they're piss slow and get a 240gb one, that should be future-proof enough and good for multibooting various OSes + applications on them since you're going to use the other drives as slow HDD storage.

>>57728624
240gb msata? Sounds like a bit much to me but I didn't take futureproofing into consideration so that's food for thought I guess.

Time to shop. thx pal

>>57728618
thx friend

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>>57727699

>>57728643
I'd suggest 240gb but as i said earlier each requirement is subjective so if you think you'll be fine with 120gb get a 120gb one instead plus a 240gb ssd it's only a couple of bucks more most of the time, also max supported is 1tb so go wild.

>>57728533
>im considering buying a T420 for general use (not gaymen) in the future. what do i need to know?
it's gud labtob
You could also play modern games with an eGPU setup and optionally upgrading the CPU.

>but i understand that there are upgrades for these laptops that you can do. what would these be?
For the T420 you can upgrade:
>CPU from stock dual core i3/i5/i7 to a quad core i7
>RAM to 2x8gb sticks for 16gb total
>Screen to 1600x900 if you're using a 1366x768 screen
>Battery from a 6-cell one to a 9-cell one
>Triple drives if you want (msata ssd + 2.5" hdd/ssd + another 2.5" hdd/ssd in the optical drive slot)
>Capable of making an easy eGPU setup with the ExpressCard port if you want gaymen
>Docking Station if you want to use it as a desktop/laptop hybrid

>im not terribly hardware proficient; the extent of my knowledge concerning component installation and replacement is the mobo, gpu, and psu on my desktop on an as-needed basis
You have a hardware maintenance manual with detailed steps about replacing every part inside, it won't be hard.

>>57723147
1280x800 is good for a 7" tablet, not 14" laptop
1600x900 is the minimum

>>57728738
No u

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Makin' copies!
er...
LED backlights actually.

Quick /to/ do I get a t420 with an Intel i5 2520 low res screen for AUD200 in an auction? I'd be replacing my trusty 2009 MBP. Have three hours in which to bid.

>>57729201
Know how much the better screen, battery, and whatever other upgrades you want cost. If you can't find one that already has a good screen for less price difference than screen replacement, then buy it.

>>57720001
it's soldered

i got a stupid question is T420 Good for drawing with 1600x900?
i'm gonna connect with chink tablet and clipstudio

>>57729291
>it's soldered
only on X-series.

>>57729298
Not good but "okay". Miles better than 1366x768 of course.

I use it with Krita and a Huion chinktablet too.

>>57717463
Please use other images for this general than the same picture of a trackpoint with /tpg/ over it. There are many interesting photos to use and Thinkpad users are smart enough to know how to find their thread without needing the same dumb image over and over.

>>57728975
>1280x800 is good for a 7" tablet

Yea right. Except 1280x800 at 7'' is 215 ppi, while standard Windows ppi is 96. Good luck ruining your eyesight by staring at microscopic UI elements and fonts and requiring glasses at age 30+ as a matter of necessity.

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R30 and a monitor join the rape dungeon

>>57729525
DELETE THIS

>>57725994
pls respond ;_____;

>>57729657
Can't, i don't use Linux.

Sorry.

>>57725994
figured it out
Just turn off compositor in xfce4 window tweaks

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>>57729525
>floppy disk

saw this shit and thought you fucks might like it even though you all use old ass beat up pieces of shit from 10 years ago.

Lenovo: 40% Off All Thinkpad Laptops

Code: SAV40THINKPAD

Prices after coupon:

Lenovo ThinkPad 13 Ultrabook [lenovo.com] (w/ Intel Core i5-6200U Processor and 8GB DDR4-2133 SODIMM) - $503.40

>>57729977
>ThinkPad 13 Ultrabook
nothing of value was gained

what GNU/Linux should I install on my T420?

>>57730023
install gentoo

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>>57730014

>>57730023
arch

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Hello friends

I have converted a demo video to 1280x800 with a very high bitrate and uploaded it here

https://1fichier.com/?jwkqszvy79

This video is 60fps and of extremely high visual quality. If you will view it on your 1280x800 Thinkpad you will be pleased to see your laptop's screen utilized to the fullest of its capabilities.

>>57730101
>being this mad that people like other things

>>57730118
?

how would i setup a battery charging limit on linux?

I'm not really a big tech guy but I would like a solid 'it just werkz' set up for my home PC.

Now i'm already using a t420 as my 4chan machine but would it be worth buying a w520 and leaving it basically permanently docked?

I don't game or anything although playing ps2 games on it would be nice which i'm sure it can handle

>>57730441
Honestly if you would use it as a desktop, just build a desktop

>>57729380
no, all skylake mobile cpus are soldered

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14-WUGXA-Full-HD-EDP-LED-LCD-Screen-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-T420s-T430-/282163891026?hash=item41b2474b52:g:2HIAAOSwx2dYGUBF

is this bullshit?
never heard about supporting 1920 x 1080

>>57731104
the fuck

Ordering an SSD for my T410, anything I should be careful about, or will just about any 2.5" drive work?

>>57723571
>not using windows
>being a pedophile

>>57731298
Any 2.5" will work.

Also i think it only supports up to SATA2 speeds but is not like there's a noticeable difference to SATA3 in daily usage anyway.

>>57717978
don't listen to this guy
1366x768 is totally usable on a 14" laptop
>>57724283
Not my phone, its resolution is 800x480 and I bought it back in 2015

Sorry for asking a stupid question, but I'm at a bit of a loss after exhausting my search engine
My T420 has a Nordic layout, but as I'm learning to use vi and programming, I'm realizing how absolutely garbage it is for that purpose.


I wanna have an alternate layout and I can figure out how to change it just fine, but using KDE's keyboard model menu, I can only find older Thinkpad model.
I'm not sure where to proceed from here. Just count how many keys the keyboard has (yes I seriously couldn't find it anywhere I looked up, despite finding FRU numbers (45n2080 ; 45n2150 ; 45n2220 if you're curious) and pick a generic layout of that number?

I'm also not sure what'd be best practice for a programming layout. I often write in Danish, so easy access to æ o å is necessary, as well as the umlaut for when I write German, but I'm not sure if that's best achieved by just having two layouts and switching to Danish when I need it, or if there's a Nordic programming layout that would work

>>57731072
damn
you are right

But it should not come as a surprise because modern day laptops tend to suck on that subject anyway

>>57731473
get a japanese keyboard

it has a fuckton of keys so you could remap some

>>57731486
What, like buy an entirely new keyboard?
That seems excessive, I was under the assumption there was an easy software fix I just wasn't familiar with

Bought T560s for everyone at the office via the 45% coupon. Good bye Dell E6320.

>>57731436
1366x768 is SHIT.
DON'T listen to these poorshits.

>>57731700
why would you need more pixels?

>>57731700
I use it, personally, and it's not the worst ever, but it's certainly first on my list to upgrade

why are these laptops so goddamn expensive?

>>57732689
Did you mean thinkpads?
Well, that is the reason why you would buy them second handed.

And if you lurk enough, you can get them real cheap tho. Even in here in Finland, the prices of thinkpads are quite decent if you find the right dealer

>>57731700
I have to agree,
I have switched from 1366x768 to 1600x900 and i would not go back even if you were to cut my dick off. As someone who does a lot of CAD work and 3D printing stuff (on linux only, which is an adventure rigged with crap), so the ability to see a lot more things is great.

>>57731104
>1920x1080

>>57731771
To display a picture of your mother's ass without downscaling

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>>57733867
enjoy your shitty battery life

>>57733922
enjoy your eye cancer

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>>57733949
whatever goyim
gib money

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I need durable tanky laptop to watch movies and make websites in my free time in train or at uni (cant take the lenovo I have now cuz its fragile as fuck, already have 2 dents and bent radiator ribs).
I can buy x201 with i5-m540 and 4gb ram now, or wait month or so and get x220/t420/t520 with i5 2520M 4gb.
Will this x201 be enough for chrome/firefox with 5 tabs + sublime/brackets and 720p video? Would I be able to run visual studio or android studio on it too?
At later on I plan to throw SSD in it too and don't mind buying and carrying additional bateries, though ~2h on battery would be nice

Pic kinda rel, my dad used to have this model and it was almost undestructible

>>57734315
Wanted to type indestructible or undestroyable and I managed to merge them, fuck me

>>57734315
get a toughbook
look for Panasonic CF-30 or CF-31
>how much
You can choose it by taking a bit older generation cpu

These machines are tanky as fuck

>>57734508
By durable I've meant tough enough to not get cracked when I place my backpack on the floor (my y510 got damaged this way), not to survive getting parked on by a truck, lol

>>57719392
WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO BUY SECOND HAND THINKPADS?

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>>57734646
once rugged laptop
always rugged laptop
These guys are godtier
>>57734679
depends where you live

but try lurk ebay.com a lot

>>57734745
are there used thinkpad centers that i do not know of?

im in massachusetts

>>57734857
If you live in UK then you should probably try craiglist

Be sure to use facebook as alternative way to get electronics by joining some groups that sell stuff. I got my Thinkpad t30 for 10€ thanks to it.

>>57734857
>>57734923
massachusetts is now in uk lol

>>57734960
i was not aware of the move

>>57735040
fucking brexit

>>57734960
I would argue that most of the service in UK would work in US

such as: amazon, ebay, craiglist, walmart etc.

In Europe there is atleast two of these that work and or are not commonly used

>>57735056
trump needs to BRING MASSACHUSETTS BACK!

>>57734960
I mixed up with manchester
but my point still stands

>>57735251
>but my point still stands
but u already said massachusetts is in the UK

>>57735296
you dipshit

You fags get as good services as those cunts in the UK

So stop whining and lurk for those thinkpads

where would i look up the specs if i have the serial number? lenovo's website only has a parts lookup, that or i'm retarded

I think i found a good deal:
Lenovo T420

i5 @ 2.3GHz
4GB of RAM
500GB Hard Drive

for $140

>>57735487
is it this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-500GB-HD-4GB-RAM-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-Win7-1366x768-98-/132017111928?hash=item1ebcd54378:g:bOMAAOSwImRYFQT9

>>57735683
Yes, but its on craigslist not that listing
Also said the battery only last about 20min

>>57735714
lol i was just bored.
do you live in a big city?
only computers ive seen are shit.
not sure if anyone around here knows what a thinkpad is.

>>57735828
i live close enough to boston so it would be worth it for me to go into the city to get.

Im actually seeing a decent amount, wont be as easy as i thought

t420s for $145 i just want it for the 1600x1900 resolution
Should I?

I have already L420 (got it for $75) and t440p (cost me $290). They are very cheap in my country (mexico) because nobody knows about memepads

>>57736053
lel i mean 1600x900

>>57736053
>1600x1900
that looks rad

By the way the t420s has worse battery than the t420 because it's smaller and the cpu is soldered instead of removable like the t420.

If you don't give a fuck about those things go for it.

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which is the recommended expersscard usb 3.0 adapter for t410 ?

or the one with most orders from Ali ?

>>57736126
Sort by orders and check the reviews i guess

they're like $5 so it's not a big deal

>>57736148
thanks, anything else i should consider for the expresscard slot ? I think the usb 3.0 one is the most practical one, altho i haven't really needed it so far, just want to max the t410, was thinking about changing it, decided otherwise.

>>57736187
eGPU setup
expresscard wwan adapter
expresscard ssd but they're rare as fug

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>>57736212
ty f4m

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my x220 just arrived!
i ordered it friday on ebay. florida from pennsylvania. dude is on point.

>>57736360
now put two ssds in it to go fast

anyone in europe ordered from usa ?

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What are recommended upgrades for a x201?

Does it make sense to install the Intel Management Engine firmware update? From its version history (pic related) it seems like it's mostly more features added to the AMT backdoor, for instance
>Added VeriSign RSA_SHA256 and Cybertrust Root Certificate hashes
Do these hashes enable more entities to make use of the backdoor?

Had anyone encountered problems after an upgrade of the regular BIOS of the x201? One person mentioned that after the upgrade the system started displaying an error on each boot requiring a key press to continue booting.

>>57736396
GOTTA ACCELERATE/111!!!!

damn i got to get use to a new keyboard

>>57736684
>upgrading the botnet
why

>>57731072
Oh, on the Not A Real Thinkpads. OK.

>>57736732
I am asking whether it makes sense to install that firmware update and provided its version history as a reference. Maybe someone who knows more about it can tell.

Picked up a X201 Tablet with 4GB RAM and an i7 for $150. Did I did gud?

I've just had a Latitude E6530 come across my desk. I have to admit, this this is beautiful.

are T410s trash?

>>57737439
no

>>57737462
whats the biggest difference I need to care about vs T420? I've read articles about them both but they're a bunch of garbage

>>57737500
>they're a bunch of garbage
how come?

>>57737630
thats what im asking?

>>57737676
T420 is just modern with up to date specs
T410 is ironlake while t420 is sandy bridge

Both of them pack the classic superior modularity and keyboard design

Remember that these machines are not for gaming, unless you get an eGPU

t.Ironlake cpu and can barely play danganronpa 2 at 1366x768

>>57737761
not interested in it for gaming, already have machines for that. i want this strictly for programming with no distractions

>>57737819
Then you should pick any T420,T410,X220,X201,W520 with no chiklet keyboard

You'll love the tactile feel of the keyboard fox example in T420 so you should keep your eyes on those, but if it comes to programming, Does the size matter?

so my x220 is way better than my other laptop except the trackpad. it barely moves the cursor. and solutions in windows 7? like a separate trackpad setting??

>>57737877
yes the keyboard is the main reason im deciding between those two. Size doesn't matter as much but i like the 14" its a good size

>>57737893
The trackpad in that is a bit unfortunate. Have you looked the synaptics soft settings?

>>57737912
I think you should go with the T420 or T410 because they have more modularity than X-laptops however, X-laptops are extremely compact and easy to handle, even though they can get a bit more hotter due to the size of its cooler

>>57737893
increase the sensitivity or join the trackpoint master race

>>57737962
Be sure to check thinkpad wiki
>>57737974
this

I have a T420, but I want Libreboot. Can I just swap mobos with a T400? Or is that asking for trouble, and I should just get a whole new machine?

>>57737962
nothing like that on the computer.
im looking it up now

>>57737974
i have a separate mouse so its no big deal and i have been using the trackpoint.

>>57738029
I would probably recommend checking out drivers for that machine via lenovo's site

>>57737962
i am going for the T420

>>57738051
i already have.
lenovo doesnt make it easy though.

>>57738063
Good pick, due to its popularity, you can probably get a lot of stuff done for when upgrading due to its popularity

>>57738088
I feel you man
Lenovo's site is quite shit to be honest

Well, good luck then

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>>57738113
you have to connect to a botnet

>>57734315
The *20 series would better cause of better internals.

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>>57738168
4chan is a botnet :^)

>>57735443
Website has an option to input the serial no. and it'll give you the specs it came with.

>>57736360
gib me dat wallpaper

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>>57738303
spread my work anon

>>57738113
>Lenovo's site is quite shit to be honest
It wasn't that much shit before the last "muh flat design" remake.

What I don't understand is why they can't offer driver packs for a given model featuring all drivers and software in one package (ZIP or ISO). Downloading manually each and every thing is a fucking chore, not to mention if you want to check every hash of every download.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420s-120GB-SSD-4GB-RAM-Core-i5-2540M-2-6GHz-Win7-1600x900-91-/132017119779?hash=item1ebcd56223:g:cX0AAOSwB09YMUQX

Should I get this? It looks like a good deal but I'm not sure..

bump limit reached
new thread >>57738897

>>57723169
idgaf nigger, it works

>>57738244
Is the serial number globally unique? If so, providing it at their website is a no-no because it links the serial with your internet connection.