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Rose edition

Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Gaming builds based on purpose or display resolution / Hz
>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list
>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Add an SSD to the "Great" tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL (embed)

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC


If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Old Thread: >>57558949
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What is a good <100€ case?
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>>57592450
HAF XB EVO is the end all be all of cases
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>>57592458
I'm looking for something a bit more...normal looking
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I'm the guy from the previous thread who is new to all this.

I took the suggestions and changed things up. How is this?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/pwwhm8
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>>57591922
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vR6YLD

Looking for some advice. I already fucked up by buying a Corsair CXM 450W before posting this so I'd like to avoid wasting any more dosh.

I just wanna run games on high/medium settings at 720p/1080p and 60fps; nothing too extreme here.
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Well?
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>>57592529
Pleb, Define S then
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>>57592538
>>57592575
Ya niggas need an RX 480

for the 2nd list just buy a WD blue, and that PSU is too low end, not worth buying
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Just got this for 440 bucks, how'd I do /g/ ?

>Pentium g3258
>ASRock z97 pro4
>16gb dominator ddr3 ram @ 1866
>500 watt PSU thermaltake tr2
>NZXT s340 yellow case
>1 Tb 7200 rpm hdd
>Gtx 1050 Ti
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>>57592577
What's your display?
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>>57592458
I have this case or some version of it (got it used with my build) and it's OK, but it's also not very user friendly and I don't think there are any dedicated SSD mounts on mine (again, possibly old version). You also have to remove the mobo to mess with the heatsink backplate, which is a PIA.

Also it's pretty big, which is OK but also meh. Love the bench case design though.

>>57592538
It's fine. The last thing I'd do is get a 2TB HGST HDD or at least research the failure rate on that drive (it or a sister drive might be in blackblaze statistics)
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>>57592619
Please don't tell me you actually bought that, you should have been able to get an Athlon X4 and RX 470 easily
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>>57592643
the EVO has 2 3.5" slots, while the older one had 4 2.5" slots

Otherwise it comes with a bracket for an SSD
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>>57592577
>BX ssd series
just don't anon, they have bad reviews, check them up. If you want to go crucial get the MX series
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>>57592626

I don't have a monitor picked out yet.

Just wanted to know which hard drive I should go for.

Monitor recommendations welcome!

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/nvj2bj
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>>57592579
Mid-tower with good airflow is all i really need
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>>57592704
>I don't have a monitor picked out yet.
Then why are you buying a 1070? that's a 1440p/4k-lite card.

You're probably better off with an RX 470/80 with a free-sync display depending on availability in AUS

Also just get an 850 evo or something

>>57592723
N200
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>>57592704

Dude don't use "reccomended" front page builds. They all use shirty parts so you keep buying new ones from their sponsors.
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I already have a case, ssd, psu.
how does everything else look
i was thinking about getting a 6700k because there are some pretty good deals right now but im not sure if i should.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3RTzM
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>>57592643
>It's fine.

That' what I want to hear.

One more question for ya'll. I know Black Friday is right around the corner. Is it worth it to wait for a week or start buying the parts now (probably off of Amazon since I can get a discount on crap)?
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>>57592619
Eh it's ok if that Pentium can be OC'd, but personally I'd have payed another few dollars for a DDR4 platform and an SSD

>>57592577
The only fucking difference is the HDD. Get the HGST but make sure to research the model number because 3TB have higher than average failure rates (for Hitachi it's like 3-5%, other brands up to 25%)

>>57592575
It's fine. You can keep the 450W PSU; no need for another

>>57592667
Yeah mine has two 5.25" bays (one has a fan control in it) and two external 3.5" bays for easily swapped HDDs. Where is the fucking SSD mount?

>>57592704
Get 3000MHz RAM
HGST makes the best HDDs
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>>57592755
>>57592575 here. My supposed issue wasn't with the wattage, moreso that CXM psu's are poorly made. At least, that's what I've been told last time I posted here.
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>>57592755
>Where is the fucking SSD mount?
in the lower half on the older model
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>i7 6700k
>16 gigs 3000MHz ram
>gtx 780
>2 1 TB hard drives
>1 500GB hard drive
>620 watt PSU fully modular
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>>57592647
was already built.

go ahead and build me a pc in pcpart picker for the same cost with a decent x4 and a decent rx 470 for 440 bucks. Also, you can't cheap out on the parts, has to be a good midrange PSU and motherboard just like the one I bought, and the good ram and the good case and hdd.


I'll wait.
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>>57592753
I'd pick out a few comparable items (like ADATA vs OCZ SSDs) and then buy during Black Friday / Cyber Monday

>>57592798
Not bad enough to replace it; it's fine
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>>57592809
Ok cool, thank you. This relieves a lot of anxiety I had about this build.
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>>57592755
>Eh it's ok if that Pentium can be OC'd, but personally I'd have payed another few dollars for a DDR4 platform and an SSD


It's already OC'd to 4.5Ghz
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>>57592809
Alrighty then. I'll buy on Friday and hopefully save some extra bucks.

Thanks guys.
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>>57592748
also i was a little confused as to what psu to get because i'm running off solar and batteries and wanted the best possible efficiency
how much of a difference is there between gold and platinum ratings

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJ6BD3/evga-power-supply-220p21000xr

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/MKfp99/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr
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>>57592799
Sorry I might be blind, but I don't see it
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>>57592619
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fndDkT
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fndDkT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 845 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($66.20 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI A68HM-E33 V2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 470 4GB Triple X Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $439.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-19 20:23 EST-0500
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>>57592853
It's the drive bays behind the PSU mount in the image
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Is corsair 450D Good case?
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>>57592887
>corsair 450D
overpriced
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Does anyone have any experience with the accelero iv because I just installed it on my RX480 and these temps arn't looking good for what its worth
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>>57592908
>accelero iv
why anon....did you have a reference 480 or something? why didn't ya just do a hybrid water cooling type of thing
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>>57592895
It seems fairly priced to me for what features it has
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>>57592931
It was reference, and hybrid wouldnt work with my case and already got an aio in front
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>>57592895
Damn. How about fractal design R5?
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>>57592963
>>57592948
Right something like the R5 is $20 less for pretty much the same features
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I need your assistance /g/, and I'm glad I found this thread before making one myself.

I fell out of vidya around 2005, and I have only just gotten back in last year. I got a PS3, and I want to built a PC. I used to fiddle back with them a lot in the late 90s / early 00s, but nowadays I have no idea what's going on. I'm willing to spend about $1500 dollars. A work colleague recommended a build, but I'd like your input so I can muddle it all around.

so tl;dr - please make me a gaming PC for $1500

I know there are new CPUs coming out soon but I'm that behind I'd rather use it as an opportunity to get the previous gen cheaper.

Also please recommend a monitor. Price isn't an issue for it.

Cheers.
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>>57592963
I mean I would recommend it over the crosair personally I have one and it's great
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>>57592847
lmgtfy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

>>57592867
Definitely do not buy that X4 845. You will significantly bottleneck the RX470.

The X4 845 is approximately equal to the FX4X00 (both are 2 module / 4 thread CPUs). You can see on BF1 for an example that the max framerate is severely limited by the CPU.

The correct GPU for an X4 845 would be a 1050Ti at max.

Additional, FM2+ is a DEAD SOCKET. That means no upgrade path. An i3 6100 is just slightly more expensive for significantly better performance and a modern platform with a nice upgrade path.
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>>57592988
Wait for zen, Intel will drop price and then it would just generally be a better point to make a pc
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>>57592867
>resorted to using cheap ass shit parts any ways

That's what I thought.
But thanks for being an AMD fag I guess.
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>>57592988
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/2BgJxr
1440p >100Hz Gsync monitor
Could also wait for the $800 1080Ti
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Just pulled the trigger on this.

Feel free to tell me how bad I fucked up, gents. I already have an SSD and 5TB of HDDs, a monitor etc.

Also, not that it's relevant, but I got Rainbow Six Siege, Warhammer Vermintide, GoW 4 and Mafia 3 all thrown in for free. Don't really care about the last two, but Siege looks pretty awesome.
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>>57593003


How much of a price drop are we looking at, out of curiosity?

Literal $100+ savings on an i5-6600K?
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>>57593009
They're all fine parts

>>57593002
Does battlefield 1 even run on dual cores like a G3258 it's not in the list? because most games today seem to require 4 threads otherwise they become a stuttering mess, in addition 50 fps is fine to play on, it can most likely get higher by dropping some settings
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>>57593061
Not me but someone is going to scream at you for that "meme cooler"
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>>57593061
If your monitor is 1080p 60hz the GPU is a waste, and that PSU is house fire tier replace it immediately
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>>57593084
that cooler is great
i got one for 15$ and my cpu hasn't gone over 50
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>>57593067
It depends on how good Zen is, if it turns out competitive for the Intel line then really depends. Looking at the RX line and GTX 970 it has dropped like $50 so the difference isnt going to be $100 but it just opens more doors if you wait
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mLHTPs

is this build good?
i have money to burn right now but if i could get cheaper parts that would be awesome

i wanna run some demanding games in this pc

they don't sell noctuas in my third world shithole btw
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>>57593101
I know but we have at least on person who is a complete autist to anyone who has one
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>>57592988


I'd wait for the 10gb graphics cards and new generations of CPUs to come out, but that's just me. Considering you've been out of the game for nearly a fucking decade, I'd imagine you're pretty impatient, and this build >>57593049 outline will futureproof you for many years to come anyway. So it's really up to you.
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>>57593084
Eh, I've always had pretty good experiences with them in the past.

>>57593100
I'm on a Samsung S27A850D at the moment, might upgrade when I change my speakers next month.

As for the PSU, how bad are we talking? I've always trusted Corsair's stuff in the past and never had any failures.
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>>57593076
>Does battlefield 1 even run on dual cores like a G3258 it's not in the list?
Doubt it, although that list isn't comprehensive

>50 fps is fine to play on, it can most likely get higher by dropping some settings
Most settings only affect GPU load. Only ones that don't are draw distance and shadows. That BF1 bench is optimistic (DX12 + AMD CPUs run well on Frostbite).

>50 FPS is fine
The point is that you can get the exact same FPS with a cheaper graphics card like that 1050Ti or 380x.
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>>57593200
But with an RX 470 you could crank the settings to the max, and other games aren't as CPU limited
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>>57593138
Change the ram to something faster if its within a few dollars of price difference. It wont make a difference in everything but in some games it can add an extra 10% fps going from 2133 to 3200 and you are already spending that much anyway.
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What's causing the price difference in these two DVD/BD burners?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136264

The specifications are identical under that tab as far as I can tell, so even though I don't know what most of that stuff means, they should be the same, right? What's the 50$ difference due to then?
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>>57593138
What is with that monitor set up? Why not a single ultra wide or large 4k display? Or at the very least 1440p 144hz IPS display

Fury X because water cooling, and the display is also free-sync, didn't check the range

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WHqpm8
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WHqpm8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 34UM88C-P 34.0" 60Hz Monitor ($559.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1900.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-19 20:49 EST-0500
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>>57593220
Try 2% for battlefield 1 at least
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>>57593136
>>57593003
Zen's gonna be big. Intel is already responding with 6 core mainstream CPUs, an overclockable i3, and hyperthreaded Pentiums
http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-summit-ridge-prices-details-leaked/
http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-2018-cpu-details/
Sorry, I hate currytech
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>>57593263
That's paired with an i7. Also only some games see a boost with OC'd RAM
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>>57593263
Well I am sorry that I remembered it wrong. But still if its only a few extra bucks why wouldnt you when you are happy to spend $3000?
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>>57593240
Get 3000MHz RAM
Nice ultrawide

>>57593315
You are absolutely correct
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Im getting 1080p or 1440p monitor with fresync with the fury x. Is the fury x worth it? I just to get off the 280x train
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>>57593312
Who the hell idea was it to make all ram need to be over clocked if it was not 2144?
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>>57593315
>>57593312
I guess, DDR4 seems to have made RAM speed matter somewhat
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>>57593335
intel's memory controller?
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>>57593340
Yeah

>>57593312
That chart if you ignore the 4.51ghz column and stick to making comparisons with just the 3.5Ghz section shows some games with a negligible improvement to a 15fps improvement with most of them sitting in the 10ish fps gain.

For 10 extra bucks I would say its a worthy investment.
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>>57593389
3.2Ghz sorry
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>>57593218
Incorrect. Other games are even more CPU limited. Like I said, BF1 is DX12 and also Frostbite (BF1 engine) likes AMD CPUs. Also that benchmark isn't during MP, it's singleplayer. Which means that CPUs will struggle more during MP.

You can also crank the settings to the max with a cheaper graphics card and get the same fucking framerate. What do you no understand about the comparison that I posted? You have no idea about what you're talking about.

An X4 845 + 470 build is just a bad idea. Even if you dropped to a 380x or 1050Ti it's still barely defensible to save a tiny amount of money upfront only to have to pay more later.
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>>57593334
If you're getting the Fury X you want 1440p
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What's a good replacement for this HSF?

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7
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>>57593412
>>57593218
Just look the horrible minimums. The game is going to stutter and come crashing down from its highs
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>>57593412
Still easily worth having a 4 thread CPU

Or saving for an i3 6100

a lower end GPU wouldn't be able to run it at the level an RX 470 could
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>>57593436
Thanks, lad.
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>>57593509
>Still easily worth having a 4 thread CPU
Completely agree. That's why you have such a huge price increase from the 2c / 2t Pentiums to the 2c / 4t i3s.

I've never recommended a Pentium for AAA games (will probably change when HT Pentiums) but I also don't recommend X4 845s because of the low perf and dead socket.
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>>57593334
just wait for Vega at this point man
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>>57593565
given it's price the Athlon X4 CPUs are the best in their price category

AM4 needs to hurry up though
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How will i know if my psu isn't strong enought?
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>>57593588
>waiting since 2015
"No"
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>>57593630
Calculated peak draw from your components
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>>57593630
When it dies
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What to upgrade from off an i5-4570? I'm feeling impulsive and might head to MicroCenter tomorrow
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>>57593900
i7 6700K if anything, should just wait for Zen and Kaby Lake though
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>>57593630
http://powersupplycalculator.net/
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I accidentally fried my gpu and decided to put my old one to replace it till i can buy a new one but for some reason i can't get my monitor to show anything. I have tried multiple gpus and 2 monitors and none of them seem to work despite working on other PCs
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>>57594049
you mean you fried your motherboard

Try a different PCI-e slot
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What's a good 128GB SSD? Needing an OS harddrive for a new computer I'm building.
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>>57593911
But that means a new motherboard
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>>57594131
Trion 150.
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>>57594267
not worth sticking to 1150 unless you're getting a K i7 for incredibly cheap
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>>57594267
Yep. Not him, but obviously if you want to stay on that platform you know what to get. Not like there is too much above a locked i5, except for an i7.
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Has anyone every built a little emulator box for PCSX2/Dolphin kind of stuff and if so, what was your setup? I have a nice Z97 Micro ATX board doing nothing at the moment and wondering how much I'd need to invest for playing casual games with a gamepad.
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>>57591922
post moar of this boy
>tfw the moistening
>tfw over 3 years ago
this sucks man.
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>>57592605
$?
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>>57594354
Get the G3258 or an unlocked i5 (slightly better, some tasks can be offloaded onto the back two cores) and OC the shit out of the one you get.

Graphics can be anything, depends on what else you want to play

>>57594357
I honestly still don't know whether that's a male or female
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>>57594399
>>57592538
>>57592575

It's currently $229 for this 8gb 480, which is one of the best, and it comes with Civilization 6

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150774
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>>57594354
>>57594404
better off with just an i3 6100 for emulation

for the GPU the 470 is the best current performance per dollar GPU, but just get anything decent that's used
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>>57592853
I think you might have to something like pic familiar
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>>57594404
Yeah I've been eyeing the G3258 for like a year but when the 3.8 GHz i3's came out I sort of froze up because I have a feeling that a 3.8 GHz Haswell is "fast enough" for emulation purposes and I'd have the added ability to play some more casual PC games.

I can't picture spending the money needed for a 4670k or 4690k at this point for what I'd be using it for, but thanks for the suggestion.
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Friends first Build rate if so inclined. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvsJm8
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Is the EVGA 1060 SC prone to overheating like the rest of their line? Should I avoid EVGA for the time being?
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>>57594535
anon pls no ADATA SSD, find something better don't let him jump on. reliability matters.
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>>57594457
Yeah, pretty sure mine are 3.5" unfortunately. Maybe some of the hardware can convert to 2.5"
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>>57594570
Would a Sandisk be better? I have had luck with less reliable ssd companies I have an ocz agility 3 ssd that is still working great from the day i bought it.
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>>57594454
He's already got the 1150 mobo and the emulators can't use hyperthreading. So the Pentium is better for him because it can be overclocked and will be fine for any other old games he wants to play.

Graphics could easily be a GTX 1050

>>57594461
Overclocked the Pentium is very good for emulation, but yes the Haswell i3 is good for any game.

>>57594535
Convince your friend to go against LEDs. They suck for a dark room when you're trying to sleep or play

Plus they're extremely gay
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How will a 6700k be for ps2 emulation?
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>>57592735
>was told my 780 was the 4k card of the future
>now people tell me it's barely suitable for 1080p
never listen to /g/ . . .
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>>57594604
sandisk and crucial seem to be budget and highly praised right now, although it'll be a little more expensive than adata. look for high amounts of reviews on Amazon or newegg you might have diversity in what the drive can do.
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>>57594668
>never listen to casual nvidiots and your own blind optimism
FTFY
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>>57594664
Great after OC, higher the better. In general the highest per core performance CPU wins
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>>57594695
What about before OC though I'm not comfortable ocing it when I just got it never experimented with OC before
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>>57594647
>emulators can't use hyperthreading
an i3 an i5 are no different in that they have 4 threads

>>57594668
a 290 is still fairly capable for 4k medium settings in some DX12 titles, ya made the wrong choice anon
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>>57594709
you can use an i3 6100 for PS2 emulation no problem
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>>57594723
Alright I'll give it a try on Monday with God of War 2 since windows actually booted despite a new motherboard and everything
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>>57594737
if you already have the i3 just wait for kaby lake before upgrading to an i7
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>>57594748
I already have the i7 I swapped from amd to intel today
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>>57594454
Thanks, yeah I already have a Z97 board doing nothing at the moment so I'll just stick with that. It has a 2.8 GHz locked Haswell Pentium in it right now which is actually not awful for the PCSX2 games I already tried it on but certainly not flawless.

>>57594647
Word. I think Dolphin can lightly use a third thread but it's just for background stuff as far as I know. Getting an i3 or i5 would be for some casual gamepad-playable AAA games if I felt like it which I'd be worried about the Pentium handling.
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>>57594765
I also want to comment on how much nicer intel sockets are compared to amd nothing is more frustrating then pulling your cooling block only to take the CPU with it
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So is the Asus ROG STRIX OC 1080 really worth the 100 extra dollars over the Gigabyte G1 1080?
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>>57594717
>a 290 is still fairly capable for 4k medium settings in some DX12 titles, ya made the wrong choice anon

This blind AMD fanboyism is really ruining the fucking board.

Kepler was a shit stain GPU architecture, people who bought it bought wrong, but saying the 290, not even the 290x, but the two fucking ninety is a 4k card? Get the fuck out please.
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I just finished building my PC and I got a problem friends.

Sometimes random folders, installers, programs just hang for a few seconds when I try to launch them. Like they say not responding and just chill for a few seconds then work.

It doesn't happen all the time though and the rest of the PC still works when it happens, just not the thing I click.

What's wrong with my PC? Is it kill?

6600k
EVGA Z170 Stinger
16gb of 3000mhz ram
Old GTX 970
Samsung 850 EVO - Only drive in PC right now.

Also if I try to use the XMP profile of my ram my PC won't boot. But everyone on the EVGA forums says their latest z170 bios are bad and break PCs. What do?
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>>57594845
>medium settings in some DX12 titles
Not that anon but under this limited description he's probably not totally wrong depending on what your standards are for 4K FPS.

The fact remains that Kepler is an embarrassment to Nvidia at this point in time while the raw strength of Hawaii helps it limp along in modern titles if you can put up with its other drawbacks.
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>>57594845
a 290 is still about comparable to a 470 within 10-15%, and it's pretty easy to run some games at 4k low-medium with a mid range GPU
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xfq8jc
How did I do? Going to use it for PC games. Going to get liquid cooling instead. First time picking out parts. Don't need hard drives already have them.
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>>57595012
So you already have a 1440p 144hz display or 4k display?
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>>57594673
Have to install Win7 from disk. USB is annoying, make sure to have the USB drivers injected before you assemble the new build, otherwise you're going to hit a roadblock
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How well with a gtx 780 play this song?

https://youtu.be/WdKvtrIinHA
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>>57595012
>Going to get liquid cooling instead.
Complete meme at this point in time. All of those parts are cool enough on air unless you're an obsessive overclocking veteran going for world records.
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>>57595056
24 FPS but the human eye can't see beyond that anyway.
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>>57595070
World records generally involve Ln2
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>>57595084
No shit.
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>>57595029
Not him, but I bought a 1080 for my 1440p ultra sharp only because it was sub 400
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OK, How's this for a first timer build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cpXbCy

Only thing I'm worried about is the mobo. It's a sub $1000 gayman build.
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>>57595108
>sub 400
USD? The fuck?
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>>57592748
nice wifi pass
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>>57595123
better off with an 480 + free-sync display
>>57594443

Also the i5 6500 will be fine, otherwise shell out for an i7 6700

get a 240gb SSD minimum

The monitor here is 1080p 75hz free-sync, you can easily fit in a 144hz display

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPMvqk
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TPMvqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($190.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($58.08 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: AOC G2260VWQ6 21.5" 75Hz Monitor ($120.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $554.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-19 23:50 EST-0500
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>>57594929
>>57594845
Not like I would recommend a 290 for 4K but it's possible
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What should I buy first?
1TB SSD and two 4TB HDD´s
or
a Sony A/V Receiver, a pair of b652 air and a center channel


Currently I have a 120gb ssd, 3tb of hdd´s and a pair of b652 and a lepai amp
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>>57595123
How tight is that budget? I'd get a better monitor, 1080/144, better case, and PSU from a better brand. You don't really need a 600W PSU anyway. Trade that shit out for like a ~500W SeaSonic.

Unless you know you need 4 legit cores you might actually be better off with the 3.7 GHz i3 6100. That could save you the $100 or so you need to make that happen.
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Looking to upgrade to a high performing 4k card, was going to wait for the 1080ti, but I feel like that would be overkill if I can get a 1080 at a good enough price on sale. Is this a good call or should I just bite the bullet and wait?
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>>57595225
It depends on what you'll be happy with and when you want it. The 1080ti will be priced appropriately on release (expensive) so unless you know you want that much power it might make sense to scoop a 1080 sooner rather than later at a good price.
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>>57595124
Pic related x2 and 12.5% cb on Dell.com
They only sell pny 1080 fe though.
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>>57595225
you need a 1080ti or titan XP for proper 4k gaming

Also vega is going to be coming as well, and given AMD's better scaling with DX12/Vulkan, I'd be waiting on that, plus it'll have HBM2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoGzZ9g8v1o
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>>57595257
Not sure I follow.
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>>57595269
Well I'm upgrading from a 4gb* 970 so I figured I'd grab the 1080 now and it'd be a marked upgrade. But i'll admit I haven't done but the most cursory of research comparing the two cards.
>>
intel 600p a good idea?

either that or an 850 evo
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>>57595364
Do you already have the 4k display? because buying a free-sync 4k display is far cheaper than a G-sync one
>>
What are good options for someone who wants a bang for buck monitor that has excellent color reproduction and fast response times?

I've been eyeing the Acer H236HLbid but I want to research some similar options before I decide.
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>>57595426
Yes I do, I got a LG 27UD68P. Which is probably why I'm more eager to pull the trigger on the 1080 now lol.
>>
I know a saw a post in here about some aussie saying winner gets tits if someone posted a PCP link under 500 AUD.

Did mods/jannies delete it?
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>>57595461
>LG 27UD68P
well it's free-sync, just grab a Fury X and run games at medium-high settings 4k for now

Fury X's are now $350 and under
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I didn't see a stupid questions thread so Ill ask here. I got a great deal on some western digital 6tb blue drives that are slightly used. I just want to use them to store my torrent files. What tests can I do to them before hand to see if they are good to go? Outside of just checking the smart data
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>>57595313
>winner gets tits
They better be NSFW

Sorry but you need a new PC.. could get an R9 380x and see if that helps matters
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>>57595480
Where are you finding Fury X's for 350 USD?
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>>57595617
Literally amazon

A week or two ago, it was at 299
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>>57595583
Fuggin' hell, my post was deleted asking about that.

At least lemme see the fucking speccy, christ.
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>>57595634
>>57595617
$350 on newegg right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150742&cm_re=Fury_X-_-14-150-742-_-Product
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>>57592577
>closed loop meme, get 212 evo or if you really will overclock, d15s
>bx200 meme, get mx300 750gb
>buying windows meme
>16gb meme
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>>57595472
He might have deleted it himself
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>>57591922
This is a guy btw

Kindly kys loser
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>>57595029
I do not have a 4k monitor any recommendations?
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>>57595070
OK and what about the power supply is 850 to over kill?
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>>57595781
a 480 and a 4k free-sync display, going with nvidia means an expensive G-sync display, besides the 1080ti and Vega will be out at some point to eclipse the 1080

this one may be TN but it's really solid for the money
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aoc-u2879vf-28-inch-4k-uhd-freesync-monitor,4575.html

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpGLwV
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hpGLwV/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card ($254.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: AOC U2879VF 28.0" 60Hz Monitor ($279.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1205.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-20 01:06 EST-0500
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>>57595781
>>57595848
And get this 480
>>57594443
>>
Is it a good idea to import hardware internationally?

There's just some shit I can't get a hold of in Ausfailia. It's mainly cpu cooling fans and gpus.
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>>57595871
Isn't the hyper 212 available there easily?
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is this worth it /g/? it's Canadian pricing btw
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>>57595913
to play games 4k at 60fps or higher is the goal mainly
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>>57595913
>>57595927
You need a titan XP for 4k gaming, or wait for the 1080ti/Vega

Also is that a website where you order PCs from?
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>>57595941
really? I thought for sure a 1080 could be sufficient enough. but okay I'll keep that in mind. Also yes it is, I'm not sure how reliable this site is atm, I'm still doing research.
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>>57595959
I meant like a pre-built PC, those are never worth it

>>57595269
There's titan Xp 4k benchmarks

did you already own the 4k display? if not a free-sync display should be significantly cheaper than a G-sync display
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>>57595978
Yeah I'm aware, but from what I've seen if I put all those parts together separate I wouldn't be saving all that much. What I also wanted to know if the 850W is enough to hold it up?
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>>57595796
Completely overkill for those parts. I mean just check your PC partpicker guide, the wattage is right there at 362W, which is already a "worst case" scenario.

You'd be better off getting a high quality 550W or 600W PSU than that meme EVGA one.
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>>57593061
That power supply is fine BTW I'm sure I'm the only one that has actually used one 1 year later still going
>>
Is buying a second 980 Ti (for ~$340) worth it for SLI? I haven't done dual GPU in like six years so I don't know the current state of things.
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>>57595196
kepler is so shit LMAO
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built last year
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Anyone think Amazon will have graphics cards discounted on black Friday? I've never paid attention to the sales in the past.
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>>57596144
Dual GPU is better than it ever has before (SLI and Crossfire) but it can still be full of headaches. Quick example that may or may not matter to you, you can't stream using OBS using SLI or Crossfire. Might not apply to you but multiply these stupid quirks about multi-gpu and you begin to realize it's not worth the hassle.
>>
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9Cd9tJ

Rate it. Gotta rush for the PSU because it'll go fast.

The 212 is a replacement for Cryorig H7.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mck9tJ

Bought everything so far except for the ram, case and psu listed. Planning on looking for an sdd on sale on bf, and already have peripherals that I like, and school gives me free copies of win7, win8.1 and win10.

The case is ~$99 on amazon and ~$135 everywhere else. Really temping but I'm also looking into mid towers. I'm going to wait on a gpu until 1070s get a little cheaper.
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>>57596279

>rate it

Why bother asking for a whirlpool forums build to be rated?
>>
If I have a 212 Evo strapped to my 6700k should I look at other coolers before over clocking?
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>>57596279
Why is the i5 300 dollars?
>>
>>57596548

Because Australia

>>57596403

Just wanna know if there are any tweaks.
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>>57596548
kangabux
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>>57596565
>>57596570
And people in America want to do something as daft as 15 dollar min wage only to have this be the result
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>>57596233

they are pretty quick on that, when the 1050ti dropped, the 470s went down in price almost immediately, i snatched one up at that time for like 180

i'd imagine you could get a decent discount if you wanted to wait til then
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How do you use Prime95 correctly?

I have tried all 3 different types of tests with threads set to 4, I have an i5 6600k... Every test, realtemp says my CPU is only at 24% load and it never heats up, just stays around 30c.

What am I doing wrong fwends.
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>>57596144
If you're really not happy with it I would sell the 980Ti and get a 1080Ti

>>57596225
Graphics card is still fine for 1080p

>>57596607
They've been at 169USD recently

>>57595313
Already did, cunt

>>57596489
No
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>start Skyrim SE
>wonder why my performance is so shit
>find out that my GPU is essentially a 3GB version GTX 950
>the one part of my PC I thought was good is actually shit like the rest of it
>mfw
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>>57596918
It's fine m8, just turn down settings. Not like that remaster really improved much anyway for the performance hit
>>
>>57596935
I get 30fps with pretty frequent dips, depending on the area. SE is very CPU based, and my CPU is fucking garbage. Can't wait to sell off my parts and build something decent

AMD FX-4200
MSI R9 280 3GB
8GB DDR3 1600MHZ RAM
>>
So, i'm building a new desktop (http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtNcRG), and I just realized the case I picked out (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119297) is absolutely fucking massive and extremely heavy.

I'm super short (5'5") and i'm not that strong, and I can barely move my current desktop around from like 6 years ago (antec 900, 6870, amd phenom xII 965). I'm pretty concerned I won't be able to even lift this thing up, let alone transport it from one place to another (I'm not living in a single place).

Are there any lighter/smaller alternatives that still have good air flow and would fit my build? Beyond it being able to fit and having decent airflow, my only requirements is that it have a side window, an external 5.25 bay, at least 2 internal 2.5 bays and at least 3 internal 3.5 bays, and the internal bays all being toolless and quick to swap drives.
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>>57596973
Sell the 4200 and get a used 83XX with aftermarket cooler or Waith cooler
Sell the 280 and get an RX 470
You'll be set for a while

>>57596990
Consider an ITX build
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>>57597122
>Consider an ITX build

I'm probably going to go for a micro atx build the next time I make a PC but i've already bought half the parts for this and i'm not first dealing with returning them and re-deciding on everything,

So far, the only other case I can find that meets my needs is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139060 , can anybody vouch for/against it?
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What is some good second hand cpu+mobo combo around 60-100$ (can pay a bit more of course if its worthy) for music production? I'm using FL studio and have already seen the logicalincrements post about music production builds but they are too expensive for me. I thought of buying x5460+mobo for 60$ but anon from the previous thread told me that its not worth it.
>>
>>57597542
Look up the sandy bridge i5s
>>
Haven't built a PC in a while, what's with these closed loop/sealed liquid coolers I'm seeing around?
>>
Thoughts on this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PWnLwV

Aside from gaming, I'll also be doing video editing, audio production, light CAD work and light VM usage. I already have a 1080p 144hz monitor, and I've already purchased the R9 Fury and power supply.
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>>57597566
The cpus alone are over 100$ second hand
>>
>>57597608
Good marketing and dumb consumers, air or custom loops are the only relevant choices.
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>>57594082
sorry fell asleep.
already tried that and it didn't work.

the reason i though that the gpu is fucked as that my screen is full of red lines and it doesn't wanna finish booting, this happened on my second PC too when i switched the gpu to it.
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>>57591922
Used RAM for £20 off a friend. Worth it? I only have 8gb of basic kinston RAM atm
>>
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/d7Lsnn

Is this a good monitor for this build?
>>
>>57598969

It's overkill.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/T8dFf7/dell-monitor-u2515h
>>
>>57598994

so is that tho - just need 2 of these badboys

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe
>>
Lads
I've got a bit of a dilemma.
I currently have a single RX 480 Nitro+ 8GB, but I kind of want to buy another and crossfire.
I try to game at 2160p when I can, even if I have to lower the settings but the 480 can't handle it.
Do I buy another 480 or (for £100 less) return the 480 I have and buy a single 1070?
>>
>>57591922
>Rose edition
>she
>>>/lgbt/
>>
>>57598920

Probably worth it but it but just check it isn't ECC memory. If it is, check your motherboard is compatible.
>>
I STILL LOVE YOU ROSE
>>
>>57599019
>just need 2 of these badboys

honestly meant to say 1 of these, but hey if you wanna splurge on a second later in the year, go for it
>>
I have £100 to spend, was thinking of getting something like a 100GB SSD and a cheap mechanical keyboard, anyone have any suggestions for the two?
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Am I doing it right?
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Built this a couple months ago, regret getting the 1080 FE, I should've waited for the aftermarket cards to resurface.
>>
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cDtn8K

Which monitor?
>>
http://www.newegg.ca/Special/ShellShocker.aspx
that a good price for a rx 480? at least in Canadian monies?
>>
>>57599518
How fucked is the leafbuck right now? £210 for a pretty meh GPU isn't a particularly good deal unless your mapledosh is literally in the shitter.
>>
>>57599542
it's 349.99 on sale down from 400
as I recall the maple bux is in the shitter
>>
>>57599542
oh did I mention I'm running a gtx 960 2gig
>>
>>57599559
>>57599583
Then it's not a horrendous deal, I'd prefer to get a 1060 in that situation but that's just me.

In an ideal world you'd save up a bit extra and grab a 1070 instead.
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Alright lads, how is this? I'm looking to play games at 1440p, 144hz comfortably.
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I’m currently trying to choose components for my first NAS-server. Minimum requirements would be reliability, low-power (it’ll run 24/7) and be able to use encrypted LUKS-filesystem without too much performance loss. Ability to play 1080p videos would be a plus but not necessary. Does this build make any sense?
>>
>>57599590
well I just came into some money roughly a thousand maple bux I don't want to spend it all on a new card so I'm looking for something better then what I have but won't rape my wallet
>>
>>57599599
i7 doesn't add anything to your desire to reach that goal, get an i5 instead and spend the extra money on... well whatever you like, better SSD, a platinum rated PSU, maybe a nicer motherboard or even a huge stock of poptarts.
>>
>>57599615
then the 480/1060 isn't a bad choice, go look at some benchmarks and make your own mind up on that one, as I said I'd get the 1060 but I'm basically an Nvidia fanboy so my opinion on this one isn't worth shit.
>>
>>57599618
I've read that the i7 will likely be taken advantage more so by newer games. Plus I'll be quite timid with overclocking, so the higher core clock will be nice for me to not have to change that much.

My real concern is the mobo. I don't really care (in fact I dislike) the gaymer stuff, I just hope that doesn't make much of a difference. I don't intend to sli so I don't see how it will...
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>>57591922

Upgrading from an 8350 to i5-6600k.

Did I do okay?
>>
>>57592577
why is your i5 showing $319 when it's currently $219 basically everywhere?
>>
>>57599502
>http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cDtn8K

Neither, get the one in >>57599599

it's one of the best gaming monitors they've ever tested apparently
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Yea or nah? This is cancuck currency by the way.
>>
>>57599746
forgot link:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/dell-s2417dg-24-inch-165hz-g-sync-gaming-monitor,review-33702.html
>>
>>57592748
why the ziptied towelphones`????
>>
>>57599963
Obviously cause he is a headlette
>>
CPU: i7 5820k 4.0GHz
Cooling: H100i GTX + Noctua NF-F12
Motherboard: MSI x99A SLI PLUS
RAM: 32GB HyperX FURY DDR4 2133MHz @ 2666MHz
GPU: Asus STRIX GTX 970
PSU: Corsair RM750i
Storage: 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB WD Blue
Microphone: Rode NT1-A, Scarlett Solo
Audio: Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pro, Sound Blaster Z
Keyboard: Corsair K65
Mouse: Logitech MX Master

Main purpose of the system is /gd/, gaming and maybe streaming once in a while.
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>>57597542
bump
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r8
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>2016
>building inferior computers

This is the Stack Overflow developer desktop build.
http://nickcraver.com/desktop-build/
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>>57600109

You're going to want to replace that RAM with something that's around 3200Mhz, creative tools and some games love that +3000 range.

Also personally I'd replace that H100i with a Noctua NH-D15.
I was going for watercooling myself at first, that same model too I think, but then I realized that the vastly more silent air option performs practically exactly the same as the high end AIOs, without the extra noise.
But that's just a personal preference.
The performance is more or less the same in the end with these things.
>>
Is the Pixio PX277 too good to be true, lads?
>IPS
>Freesync
>1440p
>27 inches
>around 330+ usd
>bad reviews only talk about the mount and a dead pixles or two

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIAB714894154
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>>57598011
So you fried your motherboard and GPU, does it not have an iGPU to use?
>>
>>57598969
You can get a monitor with the same specs + free-sync for less, also a 1080 can't exactly do 4k, it's about 80-90% there, better off with a mid range GPU and waiting for the 1080ti or Vega GPUs

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Rk98TW/aoc-monitor-u2879vf
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>>57599749
That's a pretty good deal for the 1TB. I've had two of the smaller EVOs, and had no issues at all, very happy. I assume the larger capacities are just as good.
>>
Rate my build please
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y689tJ
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>>57601093
Why a locked i7?
>>
>>57601127
6700k got out of stock. I don't plan on overclocking anyway.
>>
>>57601093
If it was me, I'd probably drop the Kraken for a 212 EVO, then swap the board for something slightly cheaper like the Z170 Pro Gaming (because they always seem to be on offer) and go for the 6700K with the extra money you have left over.

Other than that, pretty good. The S430 is a good case, and the Zotac's pretty decent value too.
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What do you people think about this PSU manufacturer?
>CWT
>Channel Well Technology
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>>57594647
Im not sure what you are talking about there are no LED fans or anything on that list?
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>>57601171
Thanks for the advise. I will consider it.
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Here is an updated parts list. Rate if you would like.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/s8QPgL
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>>57601173
Mid tier, they made some corsair units that were alright
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>>57601306
39 bucks is pretty great for the case. I'd maybe shop around for some more/higher speed RAM for that sort of price though, there's a lot out there.
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So my PC is pretty old, like 2011 or 2010 or some ancient shit.

I'm going to build a new PC late next year after all the new shit comes out, but before I do I wanted to do a slight upgrade to my current system to keep me satisfied until then.

Anyway, he stuff that's purchased is what I'm currently using like the case & cpu cooler etc.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xpHGnn

It's Australian dollars too btw.
If you have any improvements of any sort, I'd like to keep it all under a grand if possible.

I'm excited to see if this will do much at all.
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>>57601173
>trusting no-name PSU manufacturers with your expensive shit
why do you even ask this you mongoloid, you already know the answer
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>>57594404
>I honestly still don't know whether that's a male or female
Roze is a girl, it's just trolls who say she's a dude. She hasn't helped her case either, what with her constant insistence that she's got a peen.
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R8 please.

I can't spend more, so any changes will have to be price allocations, not additions.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/matthall20/saved/#view=TQRTWZ
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7Cdr7

I am thinking about refreshing my existing build. I current have a Air 240 which is feeling kind of cramped. Also i cannot decide if i should get an i7 4790K or i7 6700k i can get them for the same price at Microccenter i already have a z79 mobo. And id rather not have to buy a new mobo and ram.
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>>57601473
Also pc part picker didn't have the psu i just bought so that one is a place holder it is the 1000watt G2 EVGA unit.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYd6qk


New parent trying to do some light business work but also want to game. Interested in 4k. Tried to cut costs where I could. I dont care about fancy cases and shit. Is 16gb of ram still overkill for gaming?
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>>57601435
£700 GPU
Christ, I'm not planning on spending that much on my entire build.
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>>57601435
The GPU is way overpriced. Overclockers have that exact one for £659, or you could get the Gainward GLH for £629, which has higher clock speeds (although it doesn't look quite as snazzy, granted). The £60-70 you save could be better spent on a larger SSD/additional HDD/extra case cooling/pop tarts.

Other than that, pretty good. My build I just ordered is almost identical, except for a larger SSD and a 1070 instead.

Also, you might be best waiting for Black Friday for the monitor and RAM.
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>>57601517
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYd6qk
Need a PSU in that.
No idea about the RAM. Normally 2x4GB is plenty and 16GB is unnecessary, but given how much you're putting into everything else it might be worth it.
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>>57601517
Right now, 16GB is perhaps overkill unless you'll be doing a lot of simultaneous tasks/graphic design/video etc.

In the next year or two, it might be beneficial for gaming though. Seeing as how you're already pumping a fair bit of cash in, the 50 bucks you'd be saving by dropping down to 8GB probably isn't worth it, since you may well end up just buying more next year anyway.
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>>57601638
>>57601665
Good to know. Any reccomendations on where i could cut more costs other than ram then? I've been told i should just get a 1070 for now.
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>>57595257
Are you sure that's not a 1070? It says it's 639 for 1080 and 699 for 1080 fe.
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>>57601723
You could probably save money getting a cheaper brand of the motherboard, "gaming" branded variants tend to be overpriced.
Check the specs yourself to make sure you aren't missing anything you'd want.
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rpsc4C
Gonna be my first build, rate please
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http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212. better than the 212. quieter than the 212.

please meme this so people quit getting a worse product
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>>57601723
To be honest, unless you're looking for 1440< resolutions, a 1070 is more than capable. Some models even match 1080 FE performance in some games with a medium overclock.

Obviously, since you want 4k, the 1070 won't reach much more than 30-3fps at high-ultra quality in most cases. Having said that however, even the 1080 struggles to hit more than 50 frames in a lot of recent games in the same circumstances. If you're still set on 4k and don't mind upgrading next summer, I'd get a 1070 like the Inno3D iChill or similar, saving you a few hundred quid, then wait for the 1080ti to come out.

In terms of costs, I'd drop the motherboard for a Z170 board somewhere in the £130-150 range. Ignore the 'gaming' spec ones unless they specifically meet your requirements, such as available SATA ports/good software etc. Also, unless you're dead keen on blu-rays, you could save £30 by just picking up a cheap lite-on drive.
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>>57601845

if youre going to get quality hardware, get quality hardware. get a sea sonic gold psu. get a quality case. get some quality ram
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>>57601361
you dont need an aftermarket psu if youre not overclocking. i have a stock cooler on my stock cpu and its never gone over 40c
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>>57601633
I actually prefer the Gainward appearance by quite some distance, but I've heard so many good things about the strix. For the extra 30 quid I may as well stick with Asus. Thought it had the highest core clock speeds of any card though, so that is interesting.
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>>57601517
Just get the 212 EVO. Unless you plan on serious overclocking, it will be more than sufficient.
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>>57601859
>No UK sellers.
>Only seller on amazon.co.uk is an Italian store with >13% positive ratings charging twice what it should be when you include shipping.
Guess I'll just have to get a 212.
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>>57601911
Yeah, the looks are all pretty subjective I guess. As for the clock speeds, the Asus is near the top, but I'm pretty sure the Zotac Amp! Extreme is higher, possibly the inno3D iChill and one of the Gigabyte models too. I think the Zotac still beats it for boosted speeds too.
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>>57601979
To be honest I'd just like to get the best, out of the box performing 1080... It could look like a fresh dog turd and that would be fine by me.
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>>57602024
Fair enough. In that case, look for the Amp! Extreme. I don't like the yellow detailing personally, but it gets pretty great reviews, solidly beating out the other models in most games iirc.
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>>57602084
I actually think it looks pretty cool...thanks man, I will check it out
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>>57601875
Im having trouble find a compatible motherboard. Any suggestions?
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>>57601394
They manufactured some Corsair ones, mongoloid
See: >>57601335
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was able to get this rx 480 for around 200 dollars, did i do good lads?
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>she
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>>57601845
Get 3000MHz RAM
Get 240GB SSD
That's one ugly case

>>57601473
If you're getting a K CPU why would you get a B150? mobo? Can't overclock. I'd stick with the i7 4790K

>>57601361
Check the revision of your mobo.. only Rev3.1 can support FX CPUs. If it is, check with Gigabyte and see if the board supports an FX8350, 8300, 8320, 8370, basically 83XX. They aren't list here http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3785 . If it can get a used FX83XX with an aftermarket cooler or the Wraith cooler. Not sure if it's worth it to buy an 81XX or 82XX CPU, you'll have to check benchmarks.

If you can get the FX 83XX get the RX 470. If not get a used r9 380X.

Buy a 240GB SSD

RX470 + 8350 + 240GB SSD = 330USD
240GB SSD + 380x = 200USD
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>>57594717
>an i3 an i5 are no different in that they have 4 threads
Incorrect. i3 is 2 core / 4 thread, i5 is 4c / 4t. As noted emulators cannot use hyperthreading
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/D8LPrH
Here is my current partl list I'm upgrading my pc and reusing some parts which are missing from list as video car, psu, case.

I would appreciate some advice specially regarding the motherboard and the ssd.


Interested in mostly gaming at high settings
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>>57602699
How do I check RAMs clock speed? Also, of you have a good cheap case with a window to suggest? Trying to keep this in the 800 dollar range.
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>>57602909
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DXcH8K
Updated list with cryorig H7 cooler as it seems to be better than the evo
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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7P4MTH


Alright, updated my build. Thoughts/comments?
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>>57603041
Faggot-tier case. Meme brand SSD. Other than that, fine if you like Nvidia.
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>>57602205
Damn, forgot you went for an LGA2011 CPU.

Maybe try one of the MSI XX9A or Asus X99-E boards, if you can find them cheap enough for closer to $210 or so.
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>>57603087
Whats wrong with the case and ssd?
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>>57603041
I like that case, might put it in my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rpsc4C
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>>57602909
Can go cheaper on the mobo

>>57601306
You don't want LEDs

>>57594861
I would update the BIOS to get the RAM working at full speed. If the BIOS update does cause problems just RMA.

>Sometimes random folders, installers, programs just hang for a few seconds
I've seen this happen on a lot of Win10 PCs

>>57602992
Depends on what you mean buy "check." If you're buying it says right on the label. If you want the OC'd RAM to work at full speed on a Z170 you have to set the XMP profile in BIOS

I don't really have a case rec, but there are a lot of Fractal Design cases in this thread. I personally prefer my mobo to be oriented horizontally

>>57603041
Get 3000MHz RAM
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>>57603041
Also get at least a 240GB SSD, if not m.2
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>>57603127
Updated
>>57603041
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>>57603137
Im the last dude you responded to bro and have only a slight idea of what im doing. You want me to do what now?
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>>57603131
Those SSDs are old junk and always have been slower than advertised. Spend a few extra dollars and get one that's actually fast.

The case is fine if you don't mind advertising your virginity. Get a grownup case.
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>>57603351
I eould put my parts in a tin can if it fit everything proper. I picked it as it was cheap. Any better suggestions for a case or ssd?
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>>57603184
Looks pretty good to me.

Only things I'd change personally are to increase the SSD to a 240GB if your budget allows, and to swap the MSI 1070 for a Palit Gamerock Premium, it has higher core and boost clock speeds and is about $20 cheaper in most places. Unless the MSI card gives you some added extras, the Palit is better value and slightly faster.
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>>57603395
For the case: Source 210 if you don't care about USB 3.0 on the front panel or Corsair 200R if you do. I've worked on both and they are decent for the money. If you can pony up the cash get a Define R5.

As for the SSD, SanDisk Ultra II has stronger reviews.
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>>57599494
Founders edition is just as good as any, just get a waterblock and some liquid in there and your are good to go.
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Sup /g/, I don't usually know much about technology like you guys do but i'm looking to upgrade my computer, mainly my CPU and/or GPU, what would you guys recommend I upgrade first?

>inb4 windows 10

Yeah yeah I know I woke up one day and it was installed against my will.
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>>57603787
What are you trying to do that your current PC can't do?
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>>57603803
Well games are getting more beefier nowadays and I want to enjoy my games at 1080 (recently got a 1080 monitor from my brother) but I can't max out the games like I used to be able to.
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>>57603444
Are those 1070 only available outside of the states? Im looking and i cant find anyone who ships here
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my Build:
Case: Junk case (HP Pavillion a6600 series case)
Mobo: DA061L-3D MiniITX (AM3 from an old eMachine)
CPU: Athlon II X3 460 running around 3.6 ghz with the mobo's stock cooler
Ram: 2x4gb 1600 mhz DDR3
GPU: XFX Radeon 6870HD 2 gig (GDDR5)
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 500 gig @7200 RPM (2.5", pulled from a laptop i had laying around)
also got a generic DVDRW drive and running Windows 10 64bit, powering it all with an Antex Earthwatts 500w Green Bronze Certified 80 PSU.
Built this to be my console alternative (much cheaper than an Xbox One or PS4). i ONLY use it for gaming, as i have other computers for the other things i do. It's plugged into my Samsung 720p/1080i 32" flatpanel, and i use an old Thermaltake Keyboard along with a Hipstreet wireless mouse, and an Xbox One Mini wired controller from PowerA. Works fine for my AAA gaming.
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>>57603837
Actually I might be retarded, do I upgrade my GPU for that?
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Hey guys, I got a corsair CS 650M PSU. I heard pretty late that it usually makes noise when installed with the fans facing down. The problem is that my case (s340) doesn't really have holes for ventilation of the PSU if placed with the fans up. My question is if it would be bad to flip the PSU so it doesn't make too much noise.
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Trying to find a black, very minimal looking case that would comfortably fit the MONSTER that is the Zotac AMP! Extreme 1080.

It is 325mm in length and thick as a motherfucker. Pic related.
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>>57603837
>>57603881
Why is your 1080p monitor running at 30Hz? Probably looks like shit. Fix that immediately.

Desktop > Display Settings > Advanced Display Settings > Display Adapter Properties > Monitor Tab > Screen Refresh Rate > 60 Hz > Apply

As for the games situation, most games tend to be bottlenecked by GPU before CPU even at 1080p. Your CPU isn't terrible and the 970, despite being a meme, isn't terrible yet in most games either at 1080p.
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I'm planning pic related for sometime next year

I'm basically looking for something good to be used at 1440 at around $1200-1300 that might be upgraded for 4k later.

The gpu is a placeholder as I haven't done my research well enough yet on these new gpus that came out this year.

anny suggestions for lowering price and/or raising storage and/or better parts?
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>>57604009
It's not running at 30Hz for some reason it just reports that it is. I've checked myself, and it says it's at 60hz
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>>57603986
Define R5.
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ASRock Z170 Extreme4 or Asus Z170-P?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B012D7HBTA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0126R4Z0K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2IZIWNXZQ7JSL

Both are more or less the same price but I'm struggling to find a direct comparison of the features of each. Also can't find many references to the Extreme4, most refer to Extreme4+
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>>57603846
Huh, hadn't considered that. Eh, if the Palit isn't available I guess stick with the MSI, it's your next best bang for buck I suppose.
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>>57604042
Weird. I'd guess that you're bottlenecked by the 970 in the majority of situations, but that's seriously only going to be in cutting edge games at 1080p with settings maxed out seeing as how you're limited to 60 Hz anyway.

I don't know man. Really not seeing a huge reason for you to do anything unless you can specifically point to what you need more power for. On the one hand your locked mobo and CPU should be strong enough not to bottleneck a 970 and on the other hand, your monitor is too shitty to be a really serious bottleneck for your 970 if you could live with turning down a setting or two here or there.

If you absolutely must upgrade something pick up a 1070 but it's kind of wasted on the rest of your PC, if that makes any sense.
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>>57604157
Fug I guess it's all in my head then.
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>>57604054
>Maximum Video Card Length
>310mm With Drive Cages
>440mm Without Drive Cages

The zotac is 325. Will some of the cages in a 1 hd / 1 ssd setup be redundant I guess?

T
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>>57603986
Cooler Master 690 III is pretty nice. Comes in a window and non-window version, and has plenty of space, since the drive bays are adaptable/removeable.
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>>57600246
bump
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>>57604217
Yeah totally. You can remove the top cage and have space for 3 drives on the bottom. There is also a mounting point for either one or two (I forget) 2.5" drives behind the mobo if you want as well.
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>>57604308
dope, thanks man
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>>57604216
Like I said, if you want Ultra everything at 1080p and you absolutely can't deal with turning down settings then maybe it's time to upgrade the 970. Just seems like overkill. I'd install MSI Afterburner and enable the OSD to check and see what kind of FPS you're actually getting. Maybe something is fucked up for real and you're not imagining things.
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>>57597542
>>57600246
>>57604259
What are you currently using? Those Xeons are old and slow as fuck and you're practically paying a markup premium for how rare they are at this point.
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if I go for i3-6300/1050ti in about three months, will I end up regretting it?

I have little interest in recent games, but not zero interest. I'm mostly looking to upgrade from my uni laptop and actually play a game more recent than Dark Souls 1.
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>>57604428
>1050ti
1080p monitor? I think you're better off saving for at least a 1060 3 GB if you have any interest in enjoying newer games and don't mind knocking down some settings here and there. The 1050ti will be pretty miserable soon enough.
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>>57604475
yes, 1080p and I have no desire to upgrade

I was eyeing 1060 6gb, but that would need a more powerful psu, and at that point I itch for an extra stick of ram and an i5.

I'm sure that at that point it would be more power than I actually need at the moment, but my cheapskate build is the exact opposite, i.e. not futureproof
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Time to open her up
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Repill me on this /g/ should i go with ZOTAC or EVGA?
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>>57604562
Damn, what kind of PSU do you have? Those cards are pretty damn power efficient. You sure it can't handle a 1060?

I really think that a Skylake i3 and 8 GB RAM is more than enough for what you are looking to do. I'd just pair it with a GPU that's at least worthy of it and I think the 1050ti is too weak to not be disappointing as you use it over the next year or two.
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>>57604643
>1050
They both belong in the trash. There's your redpill.
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>>57604659
I'll be doing a fresh build. Was looking at 450W for 1050ti (it's only 10 eurobucks more expensive than 360 so I thought I might as well). My understanding was that 1060 6gb would necessitate 500+ psu for smooth sailing.

So, skylake i3 wouldn't bottleneck 1060? That's pretty okay news.
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>>57604699
How so? explain yourself le plebbit meme master.
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>>57604764
>>57604428 here. Read my conversation with the other guy and multiply my concerns by two.
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is going broadwell-e now a mistake? should I just get a 6700k?
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>>57604743
>500+ psu for smooth sailing.
Way overkill for a 1060. You could get away with a good quality 430W PSU.

The 1060 6GB maxes out at like 125W maximum power draw under torture/Furmark which I'm sure you won't be doing. Way less than that during normal gaming. Even still, that would leave you with like 200W to play around with for whatever else you needed unde worse case scenario.

The bottom line is the PSU should be no limit to a decision for a 1060 vs a 1050ti, at least from a budget standpoint when you're starting from scratch.

>>57604764
Consider getting a more powerful card if you plan on doing anything other than streaming video or playing old games or maybe new games on low settings. It's a weak card.

>>57604805
Depends on whether you need the extra threads or not. The price difference between X99 and Z170 mobos is significant. My guess is X99 will go down as one of the best platforms of this decade for longevity but it's not cheap.
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>>57604897
>PSU should be no limit to a decision for a 1060 vs a 1050ti
coolio
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>>57604781
I don't mind turning down the settings a bit tho
i wasn't planning on playing every game on ultra anyway, also i it seems like a decent non too expensive upgrade over my shitty 650 TI, gotta save those NEET bucks.

>>57604897
>It's a weak card
considering the price it does really well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuJZ1hbBV4I
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Before i buy parts I'd like to know if I'm doing this wrong. I want to use an SSD as a boot drive for Windows and an HDD for archive/downloads etc. However, would putting certain program files such as games on a third drive, another SSD (probably much larger than the boot drive at least 512GB) be a stupid idea? My idea is that I would have a small sized ssd boot drive for Windows and programs that are constantly being used/written/read to like a browser, and then the larger drive for files that are infrequently accessed but used often once accessed, like video games.That way if my boot drive fails the replacements would not be as costly and the third drive's lifespan should be longer if it isn't being constantly used.
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>>57605301
Eh...
Not really, that could work out.

Get a 120 GB SSD for the boot drive, in the case you accidentally install a fuckhuge program via default directory into the windows OS location.

But yeah, thats currently what I'm planning to do, minus boot drive. Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB, OS and games on it, should last me a while.
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>low power linux office computer build
>r8, h8, comments

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdYkjc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bdYkjc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Intel 540s 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Inwin BQS656.DD120BL Mini ITX Desktop Case w/120W Power Supply ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $292.85
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Parts list revised.

R8 please.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/matthall20/saved/#view=TQRTWZ

Spending more is not an option.
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>>57605549
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rWyWBP
just a small touch.
>>
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/V4wYQV

Fanless build incoming.
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>>57605805

you cant trick me
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Anyone do a G3900 Celery build that can comment on the performance? Thinking of pairing it with a gtx 950 and using it for home media.
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>>57605805
>implying that case doesn't have two fans as standard
can't fool me, passive scum
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>>57603221
I'm no the dude that you replied but what he means by 3000mhz ram is the ram speed but quick advice might as well go for the 3200mhz as is the same price at the moment in amazon
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>>57605957
That would work just fine. It will bottleneck some games due to being dual-core, but 2.8Ghz is sufficient for light gaming and the 950 is a good match.
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